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Quote from: Slim on June 10, 2021, 12:22:49 pmThe Telegraph has a useful guide to countries taking part in the Euros and their attitude to "taking the knee":https://www.telegraph.co.uk/euro-2021/2021/06/07/divided-nationsthe-24-teams-euros-attitudes-taking-knee-gesture/
Quote from: Slim on June 11, 2021, 11:22:04 amSad though it is, I feel it's important that England's participation in this tournament is as brief as possible, to minimise the oxygen of publicity and bring forward the happy day when Southgate is out of that job. He's a dogmatic and arrogant man, and I hate that.A pundit on Times Radio made an excellent point yesterday morning. These clowns aren't merely grovelling on their knees for fashionable anti-social gestures like dismantling capitalism and defunding the police, they're libelling and denigrating white society. Given the number of ethnic minority and mixed race players in the team, there's arguably a racist connotation to all this.Let's kick racism out of football.
Quote from: dom on June 11, 2021, 13:13:21 pmYou'll need to ask them their motives, just as for those that choose not to take the knee, but I doubt there's a single footballer who's interested in dismantling capitalism or defunding the police. (more's the pity, it would lead to more interesting post match interviews!) It's clear that the team and Southgate have put a lot of thought into continuing the campaign and are doing it for valid reasons.
Quote from: Slim on June 11, 2021, 14:37:36 pmIt's naive at best, petulant and arrogant at a more realistic worst.You may be right about the motives or you may not, but those who assert that the association between this loathsome knee gesture and the Marxist sociopaths of the BLM is anything but indelible are either very ignorant or maliciously dishonest.Likewise, to pretend that it hasn't become political at this stage is downright comical.This very conversation shows how divisive it is. We'd never be having this argument about Kick It Out, would we?
Quote from: pdw1 on June 11, 2021, 19:53:42 pmTalk about the kettle calling the pot black
Quote from: dom on June 11, 2021, 14:49:30 pmKick it out and Red Card were/are pretty passive in comparison. This is really bringing the issue front and centre and maybe it's a good thing that divisions are being brought to the surface. It may enable genuine debate and discussion and lead to solutions
Quote from: zoony on June 13, 2021, 14:44:14 pmTerrible and worrying scenes with Christian Eriksson last night, and thank god he is now on the road to recovery. It was good to see that they managed to complete the game as well, as I don't know how it would have affected the tournament otherwise?
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