Started by Dixkot, September 16, 2012, 18:43:31 pm
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Quote from: dom on June 03, 2021, 14:15:58 pmNo surprise at the booing to the Black Lives Matter taking the Knee stance last night prior to England's game against Austria. The only time I attended an England international the predominant chant was "No Surrender to the IRA". It was over 20 years ago but I imagine the type of person who sings that type of song still attends. I would also imagine that anyone who enjoys singing that song while watching the national team play wouldn't have much truck with the aims of the BLM movement
Quote from: Slim on June 03, 2021, 14:51:20 pmMost sane people don't really want to defund the police or dismantle capitalism, to be fair. I was delighted to see that. Performative victim culture on the part of millionaire footballers was never going to go down well in a working class town like Middlesbrough. People have every right to make a peaceful protest against divisiveness.Stupid, stupid mistake on the part of the British football establishment to grovel to the BLM idiots. It has done nothing for the cause of race relations except to set it back a few years.What sort of person is it that sings anti-terrorist songs by the way? Whatever sort it is, I believe I'm in that category myself.
Quote from: Matt2112 on June 03, 2021, 17:37:26 pmRegarding a group of people as a monolithic bloc is part of the problem. Describing those who boo as simply racist without further scrutiny or interrogation doesn't just take the conversation nowhere, but backwards.
Quote from: dom on June 03, 2021, 16:59:42 pmId see (with some generalising) that people who boo BLM to be largely racist in nature. They probably think that too much leeway has been given to the black and ethnic population and somehow feel that it's the White British people who are being persecuted IN THEIR OWN COUNTRY. What relevance does such a song have to play in an England Georgia match? It has nothing to do with a football match.If you were to draw a venn diagram with the 2 groups I imagine it would more or less be a single circle. Im hoping you wouldn't be part of either group Slim, but I'm beginning to have my doubts
Quote from: dom on June 03, 2021, 18:06:07 pmAgreed it was a generalisation. A bit like a vote for brexit doesnt mean you're a racist, but if you are a racist you almost certainly voted for Brexit.
Quote from: DavidL on June 03, 2021, 22:11:37 pmA bit like a vote for Labour doesn't mean you're an anti-semite, but if you're an anti-semite you almost certainly voted for Labour?
Quote from: dom on June 03, 2021, 22:15:24 pmOk then so BLM, no surrender and poppies all removed from football terraces and pitches. Deal?
Quote from: Matt2112 on June 03, 2021, 23:47:53 pmA long-standing national tradition of solemn remembrance of a country's war dead is fraught with bitter controversy amongst football fans?News to me.
Quote from: dom on June 04, 2021, 00:37:29 amIt certainly does when someone has the bare faced audacity to not wear one
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