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Rush and Marillion
« on: April 23, 2003, 23:55:19 PM »
Found this on the AMR newsgroup.

I'm sure there are at least a few Marillion fans who frequent this ng,
or people who are at least familiar with them.  They're one of my
favorite bands, both the Fish and Hogarth eras.  I'm in the middle of
reading the recently released book, "Separated Out", a complete look
at the history of the band right up to 2002.  Although it's written by
a fan (Jon Collins), it's light years ahead of something like
"Visions" (as anything written by a middle school graduate would be).

As some of you may know, Marillion opened for Rush on two different
tours (once on the pre GuP tour for a five night stand at Radio City
Music Hall in NYC in support of their "Fugazi" album, and again on the
Power Windows tour in support of "Misplaced Childhood").  Here are a
few excerpts taken from the book about their experiences on these
tours (my comments are in brackets):

"Then it was time for a second bash at those West Atlantic shores,
playing five nights at New York's illustrious Radio City Hall [sic] in
support of Rush.  It all sounded wonderful: 'The stage was enormous -
we had to take a lift to get to it! [that's elevator for those notversed in Britspeak]' recalls Mark [Kelly, Marillion keyboardist].
However, if the last tour attempt had been a crisis, this was an
abject disaster.  The band were restricted to ten-minute sound checks
and limitless rules and regulations about what they could and could
not do, but before the gig there would invariably be a Peter Gabriel
or Genesis track playing [at the time, Marillion was trying its
hardest to remove any perceived association of their music to
Genesis]."

"And when they actually walked out on the stage, the fans treated them
like unwashed peasants.  It was awful, terrible, humbling.  'The
audience hated us, I remember one guy standing on a seat in the front
row with his trousers down!' remembers Mark.  'It was a nightmare!'  
[footnote: among the audience was Mike Portnoy, later of Dream Theater
and Transatlantic]  By the end of the stint, the guys used to travel
up in the lift saying, 'It's Christians and Lions time - off we go!'
After the five days were up, the boys went home, despondent."

[...later in the book...]

"In March of the following year [1986], the band finally reached the
west coast of the USA.  It had taken 'Misplaced Childhood', along with
its 25,000 US album sales, to convince Capitol Records that a full US
tour would be viable.  Even then, 12 of the 23 dates were supporting
Rush's stadium crowds on its Power Windows tour.  This was a brave
move considering the band's last attempts to support Rush.  However,
this time the band had achieved success in their own right and were no
strangers to 20,000 audiences [sic], and had received Rush's
assurances that there would be no repeat.  'This time, they asked us
back', recalls Mark.  'When we arrived, they'd left a bottle of
champagne in the dressing room!'  Indeed, this time the crowds were
more receptive.  Rush's legacy proved strong.  'Our audiences have
always been strongest in places where we toured with Rush," comments
Mark [umm... did he forget about the previous tour?]"

The last Rush reference I've come across in the book is a humorous
sidebar entitled "Rush unplugged":

"Marillion and Rush went out for a meal one evening.  Halfway through
the meal, Fish whispered to his own band, 'I think Alex Lifeson has
had a plug job!  Hang on, I'll ask him... Excuse me Alex, have you had
a plug job?"  Indeed he had benefited from a hair transplant, and he
very kindly discussed it with Mark and Fish, both of whom were
becoming a little thin up top!"

I know there has been speculation about Neil's recently acquired rug,
but did anyone notice Alex's "plug job" back then?  If I come across
any more Rush references in the book, I'll be sure to post them.  In
case anyone is interested, here's Amazon.com's page for the book:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1900924498/qid=1051028228/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/102-6093320-0118542?v=glance&s=books

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Re: Rush and Marillion
« Reply #1 on: April 24, 2003, 00:01:05 AM »
sounds like a good read. 8)
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Re: Rush and Marillion
« Reply #2 on: April 24, 2003, 00:46:17 AM »
Very similar to comments made in Mick Walls - Market Square Heroes Book re the 2 Rush tours.
Another good read although written before the Hogarth era.

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Re: Rush and Marillion
« Reply #3 on: April 24, 2003, 02:06:26 AM »
He's right about Visions.....
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Re: Rush and Marillion
« Reply #4 on: April 24, 2003, 02:36:19 AM »
Yes, I believe Alex had a hair transplant about twenty years ago (seriously).  I heard about it on a radio prog in the early '80s.

I suspect Neil has had a transplant too, in fact we discussed this a while back if I remember correctly.


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Re: Rush and Marillion
« Reply #5 on: April 24, 2003, 02:44:46 AM »
Do you reckon Ged's is all his own? ;)
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Re: Rush and Marillion
« Reply #6 on: April 24, 2003, 02:51:23 AM »
i think i"m going bald wasn"t written for nothing :)
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Re: Rush and Marillion
« Reply #7 on: April 24, 2003, 03:29:40 AM »
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Do you reckon Ged's is all his own? ;)


He must put a dye on it, he'd surely be going grey by now!
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Re: Rush and Marillion
« Reply #8 on: April 24, 2003, 03:34:50 AM »
If Alex has had a hair transplant he should ask for his money back. He looks like a mad monk at the moment. I have wondered about Neil's hair but surely he's not that vain that he would get a transplant? I will readily admit to progressive hair loss (not to be confused with progressive rock) but I am still one sexy motherfecker! So, if anyone is thinking of a piece/transplant/enhancement, take a page from the Nephronic book of looking good and shave it to the bone. Either that or go for the Bobby Charlton combover, another good look for those among us who don't mind embarrassing ourselves.
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« Reply #9 on: April 24, 2003, 03:49:44 AM »
agree.if it"s gonna go, let it off.
mrs g wants me to put some hair colour into my too long for my age rapidly greying hair but i refuse. 8)
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Re: Rush and Marillion
« Reply #10 on: April 24, 2003, 04:46:15 AM »
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mrs g wants me to put some hair colour into my too long for my age rapidly greying hair but i refuse. 8)


You think you've got problems?
I've been totally grey since I was 20, honest!!  :'(
His visions lifelike and full of imagination,
it's strange to think they came from such a tiny head.

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Re: Rush and Marillion
« Reply #11 on: April 24, 2003, 04:48:49 AM »
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If Alex has had a hair transplant he should ask for his money back. He looks like a mad monk at the moment.


I think he only had the temples done.  There's a 2112 joke in there somewhere, but I couldn't find it - sorry.

 

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