We need to talk about Boris

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Bisto

Quote from: zoony on December 02, 2019, 17:12:50 pmNothing wrong with that.
Slippery slope.....England is already fragmented politically, economically, culturally, socially and by religion...where do you draw the line? If the entire Union where to break up the pressure for a United Ireland would be overwhelming..which would inevitably lead to a resumption of full scale hostilities...the North/South divide in England would become even more stark...the rural economies and infrastructures would be decimated leading to inevitable mass urban and National migration from what are now the home nations to England and all that it would lead to.
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Bisto

Boris Johnson claimed children of working mothers 'more likely to mug you'
Exclusive: PM made comments about low-income families in 2006 collection of essays


Heather Stewart Political editor
Wed 4 Dec 2019 08.57 EST

Boris Johnson made claims that children of working mothers in low-income families were "unloved and undisciplined" and more likely to "mug you on the street corner", it has emerged.

In a 2006 collection of journalism, entitled Have I Got Views for You, Johnson bemoaned the increasing tendency of women to work, saying they had been "socially gestapoed into the workplace".
"In the last 30 years an ever-growing proportion of British women have been 'incentivised' or socially gestapoed into the workplace, on what seems to me to be the dubious assumption that the harder a woman works the happier she will be, when I am not sure that is true of women or anyone else," he wrote.

In the book, published before he became mayor of London, Johnson said an increasing number of female graduates tended to pair up with male graduates - a process known by economists as "assortative mating" - and that they then pool their advantages.

"The result is that in families on lower incomes the women have absolutely no choice but to work, often with adverse consequences for family life and society as a whole - in that unloved and undisciplined children are more likely to become hoodies, Neets [not in education, employment or training] and mug you on the street corner."



Labour seized on the remarks. The shadow education secretary, Angela Rayner, herself a working mother, said: "It is obvious that Boris Johnson has nothing but contempt for women and working-class people.

"For him to speak about us in such a disgusting manner shows just how out of touch he is. It is clear he only ever stands up for the privileged few."



The remarks were the latest that have come to light during the election campaign, as the prime minister's attitudes, including to migrants and low-income households, as well as women, have come under scrutiny.

The book's title is a play on Have I Got News For You, the satirical BBC quiz show that Johnson appeared on several times, helping to build his public profile outside Westminster.



In his introduction to the collection, which is laced with anecdotes about his time as Brussels correspondent for the Telegraph, he says of his journalism: "You may sometimes think that's not how it is. But never mind, buster: this is how I see it."



He has repeatedly been challenged during the campaign about his past remarks - including on a special edition of the BBC's Question Time, which saw audience members press him about whether some of his writings had fuelled racism.



In past columns for the Daily Telegraph, which paid him £275,000 a year for his work until he became prime minister, Johnson said Muslim women wearing the burqa looked like "letterboxes". He has also been criticised in the past for using the phrases, "piccaninnies," and "watermelon smiles".

"Racist rhetoric is completely rife in this country, will you admit that you have personally contributed to this, and say the words: 'I'm sorry'," the questioner asked.

Johnson replied that he had, "genuinely never intended to cause hurt or pain to anybody and that is my intention." But he went on to defend his right to "speak out".

"If you go through all my articles with a fine-tooth comb and take out individual phrases there is no doubt that you can find things that can be made to seem offensive and of course I understand that," he said.




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Johnson accused of racial stereotyping with view on Nigerians
Exclusive: prime minister made comment on people's 'interest in money' in a Spectator column


Josh Halliday and Joe Goodman
Thu 28 Nov 2019 08.29 GMTFirst published on Thu 28 Nov 2019 06.00 GMT

Boris Johnson has been accused of pushing racial stereotypes over a newly-unearthed column written during his time as editor of the Spectator in which he said young people had "an almost Nigerian interest in money".
The prime minister has been under pressure in recent months over a series of comments he made during his career as a columnist, writer and editor, including referring to black people as "piccaninnies" with "watermelon smiles" and arguing Islam has caused the Muslim world to be "literally centuries behind" the west.

In another column which has come to light, Johnson blamed single mothers for "producing a generation of ill-raised, ignorant, aggressive and illegitimate children", saying that social housing was an enticement for them to become pregnant.
The new columns emerged after the chancellor, Sajid Javid, refused seven times to say whether he would use the terms "bank robber" or "letterbox" to describe Muslim women who wear a burqa, as Johnson did last year.
The Conservative party leader wrote in a diary piece for the Independent on Sunday in October 1999 that Tony Blair had made people feel good about getting rich.
He added: "All the young people I know - ie those under 30 - are just as avaricious as we flinty Thatcherite yuppies of the 1980s in fact, they have an almost Nigerian interest in money and gadgets of all kinds."
Weyman Bennett, the co-convenor of Stand Up to Racism, described Johnson's words as "deeply racist and offensive". He told the Guardian: "This can be added to the 'piccaninnies' and 'watermelon smiles', the abject refusal to properly apologise and change his behaviour around racism.

"Boris Johnson is unfit to be a prime minister that represents the entire United Kingdom. He had demonstrated this by lying and falsely representing black, Asian and different communities inside this country.
"This is deeply offensive and unforgivable and should not be ignored and he should be held to account."
In the column on single mothers, published in the Spectator in 1995, Johnson wrote that "uppity and irresponsible women" had a "natural desire to have babies" and that ways must be found to ensure they married.


Arguing that social housing available to single mothers was "an enticement", Johnson said "no government - and certainly no Labour government - will have the courage to make the cuts in the safety net of the viciousness required to provide anything like such a deterrent".


Labour said the comments followed a pattern of sexist and misogynistic words and behaviour by Johnson. Shami Chakrabarti, the shadow attorney general, said: "These unearthed comments further reveal Boris Johnson's contempt for women and families, as he hypocritically attacks what he appallingly describes as 'illegitimate' children."


In the past 24 hours both major parties have been criticised for their handling of race issues. The Muslim Council of Britain accused the Conservative party of "denial, dismissal and deceit" over the issue of Islamophobia on Tuesday, saying the party had a "blind spot for this type of racism". On Wednesday Johnson apologised for Islamophobia within the Conservative party.
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December 06, 2019, 00:57:46 am #78 Last Edit: December 06, 2019, 01:20:18 am by Bisto
Daily Mirror

Boris Johnson skewered as Phillip Schofield reveals US firms already target NHS

"You're already doing it" - The Tory leader squirmed as the This Morning host reeled off a list of NHS services where US firms are already involved

BY MIKEY SMITH


Boris Johnson was forced to squirm as This Morning host Phillip Schofield reeled off a list of NHS services where US firms have already bought in. The Tory leader repeated his claim that the Health Service would not be on the table in any trade talks with the United States after Brexit But he looked to his feet, shifting his weight on the This Morning sofa, as the broadcaster listed a string of US interests in the NHS - declaring: "You're already doing it."

He asked for Mr Johnson's "absolute, rock solid guarantee" that "no part of the NHS will be sold off."Mr Johnson said it would not. Mr Schofield went on: "American companies providing about 13% of in-patient beds in England, Manchester. One in four beds provided by an American-owned company in Bristol, North Somerset, Gloucestershire."

He went on: "Three fifths of mental healthcare beds are owned by American companies. Cygnet runs eight mental health settings judged inadequate by the Care Quality Commission watchdog.

"£13.8 billion was spent on the NHS on mental healthcare. £1.8 billion of this went to private sectors, including American firms.
"You're already doing it."
Mr Johnson replied: "The biggest privatisation of the NHS went under Labour when they put in the PFI scheme. That was in my view - and I go round hospitals which are saddled with debt
"They have to pay back to banks at excruciating rates because of Labour's PFI deals."

While it's true that the Blair Labour government vastly expanded PFI use in the NHS, the claim Labour "put in" the scheme is false. PFI was introduced under John Major's Conservative administration.

But Schofield wasn't done He shot back: "Just this week we heard the story of a schizophrenic man who killed his father days after being mistakenly released from a Cygnet private hospital."
Mr Johnson failed to address the question, saying: "Well, obviously we have challenges with mental health care.

"And the NHS as a whole is doing an amazing job. That's why we want to make sure that we invest massively in mental healthcare as well as physical wellbeing."

This week the Mirror revealed US healthcare firms had been 'planting seeds' in the NHS since 2016.
US President Donald Trump made a visit to London to insist he did not want to prey on our treasured health service
But just six months earlier he boasted that "everything is on the table", including healthcare, during post-Brexit trade talks.
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Nïckslïkk2112

Well, as part of the EU if an American healthcare firm has a subsidiary in the EU it is perfectly able to tender for and obtain health contracts. And the NHS does such a perfect job doesn't it?

And I'm sure that if people trawl back through all our social utterances they'll find things to "skewer" us with. I'm sure all the x-phobia and x-ism lobbies would find plenty to be offended by from what I've said. Sorry peeps, I just find it hard to like anyone who isn't me.

The trouble today is people go out pf their way to seek offence finding it where it may not have been intended. And having to go back to 1999 to find potentially offensive sayings...

I'm not here to defend BoJo - he's a politician - I'm just pissed off at a world where people twist inoffensive words to suit their own agenda. Wasn't Eamonn Holmes done for saying "Uppity" recently?  I despair.

People have to take more responsibility for themselves and not expect the state to provide everything for them. And people need to "Man Up" more too.

I could rant on and on, but there's no point. It's only me against the world, and nowt to do with yer man Johnson anyway.

We're off to hell in a handcart, the only thing is how quickly.
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döm

To summarise Nick - everything is shit but don't blame Johnson
You can check out any time you like but you can never leave!

Bisto

Quote from: Nïckslïkk2112 on December 06, 2019, 10:19:03 amWell, as part of the EU if an American healthcare firm has a subsidiary in the EU it is perfectly able to tender for and obtain health contracts. And the NHS does such a perfect job doesn't it?

And I'm sure that if people trawl back through all our social utterances they'll find things to "skewer" us with. I'm sure all the x-phobia and x-ism lobbies would find plenty to be offended by from what I've said. Sorry peeps, I just find it hard to like anyone who isn't me.

The trouble today is people go out pf their way to seek offence finding it where it may not have been intended. And having to go back to 1999 to find potentially offensive sayings...

I'm not here to defend BoJo - he's a politician - I'm just pissed off at a world where people twist inoffensive words to suit their own agenda. Wasn't Eamonn Holmes done for saying "Uppity" recently?  I despair.

People have to take more responsibility for themselves and not expect the state to provide everything for them. And people need to "Man Up" more too.

I could rant on and on, but there's no point. It's only me against the world, and nowt to do with yer man Johnson anyway.

We're off to hell in a handcart, the only thing is how quickly.
The point is that Johnson is a two faced, lieing, cheating c*** who would do and say anything to get his grubby mitts on power (and money); he's a c*** today, he always has been a c*** and always will be a c***. Jacob Rees Mogg is an even bigger hypocritical, religious c***. This country, and the world in general, would be a far better place if they, and all their greedy, selfish, parasitical, power hungry, warmongering, psychopathic Tory/Republican c*** friends were all dead.

Hope I've made myself clear...any offence this may cause is purely intentional...sorry, not sorry.
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Slim

Quote from: Bisto on December 06, 2019, 14:58:26 pmThe point is that Johnson is a two faced, lieing, cheating c*** who would do and say anything to get his grubby mitts on power (and money); he's a c*** today, he always has been a c*** and always will be a c***. Jacob Rees Mogg is an even bigger hypocritical, religious c***. This country, and the world in general, would be a far better place if they, and all their greedy, selfish, parasitical, power hungry, warmongering, psychopathic Tory/Republican c*** friends were all dead.

Hope I've made myself clear...any offence this may cause is purely intentional...sorry, not sorry.

Well I think you're taking a very jaundiced view there, and you've taken some opposition propaganda rather more seriously than is probably wise.

But you know what? Even if these claims were true, I'd still rather have Boris in Number 10 than an anti-semitic, dishonest IRA sympathiser with a blinkered, fanatical ideological obsession with the politics of proven failure and a hard on for any fanatical anti-western radical or terrorist group he's ever heard of.

The sort of man whose judgement leads him to appoint Diane Abbott as shadow home secretary, Provo McDonnell as shadow treasurer, and a woman who can barely manage a coherent sentence and left school at 16 with no qualifications as shadow education secretary.

And our world really will be a cleaner place once that piece of shit and his friends are dead.

Matt2112

Any kind of cabinet that kicks out (me mate) Hilary for being too centrist is one I will in all probability not vote for.
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Bisto

Quote from: Matt2112 on December 06, 2019, 19:18:33 pmAny kind of cabinet that kicks out (me mate) Hilary for being too centrist is one I will in all probability not vote for.
Who are you responding to Matt?
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No amount of anxiety can change the future. No amount of regret can change the past.

Matt2112

Quote from: Bisto on December 06, 2019, 19:21:53 pmWho are you responding to Matt?
No-one in particular, just following up on James's point about the Shadow Cabinet.
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Nïckslïkk2112

Quote from: Bisto on December 06, 2019, 14:58:26 pmThe point is that Johnson is a two faced, lieing, cheating c*** who would do and say anything to get his grubby mitts on power (and money); he's a c*** today, he always has been a c*** and always will be a c***. Jacob Rees Mogg is an even bigger hypocritical, religious c***. This country, and the world in general, would be a far better place if they, and all their greedy, selfish, parasitical, power hungry, warmongering, psychopathic Tory/Republican c*** friends were all dead.

Hope I've made myself clear...any offence this may cause is purely intentional...sorry, not sorry.
In other words he's a politician :)

At least there's an occasional bit of humour - whether intentional or not - about BoJo. If Corbyn and especially his mare McDonnel get in then laughter will be outlawed - and I don't want to be sent to the Gulag.
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rufus the dawg

Quote from: Nïckslïkk2112 on December 06, 2019, 20:28:54 pmIn other words he's a politician :)

At least there's an occasional bit of humour - whether intentional or not - about BoJo. If Corbyn and especially his mare McDonnel get in then laughter will be outlawed - and I don't want to be sent to the Gulag.
Let me vote for Boris because he is a 3rd rate comedian, that gets my vote  clear thinking.

Nïckslïkk2112

Quote from: rufus the dawg on December 08, 2019, 09:41:56 amLet me vote for Boris because he is a 3rd rate comedian, that gets my vote  clear thinking.
Better third rate comedian than Marxist. You have to get down to Michael McIntyre level before considering Marxism.
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rufus the dawg

Quote from: Nïckslïkk2112 on December 08, 2019, 10:11:29 amBetter third rate comedian than Marxist. You have to get down to Michael McIntyre level before considering Marxism.
Marxist is that bad? Or do you mean socialist?