We need to talk about Boris

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Nïckslïkk2112

December 08, 2019, 22:54:24 pm #90 Last Edit: December 08, 2019, 22:56:40 pm by Nïckslïkk2112
Quote from: rufus the dawg on December 08, 2019, 22:48:00 pmMarxist is that bad? Or do you mean socialist?
Unless Groucho, Harpo, Chico, Zeppo or Gummo Marxist is very bad.

Korbyn [sickbag please] according to the Grauniad is a Marxist. Therefore he's very bad. He also drinks apple juice on Christmas day. This makes him the spawn of Satan. Although not as evil as his sidekick Warden Hodges, he's more evil than BLiar.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/nov/19/marxist-corbyn-revolution-ken-livingstone-labour
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Not enough war
Not enough famine
Not enough suffering
Not enough natural selection

rufus the dawg

Quote from: Nïckslïkk2112 on December 08, 2019, 22:54:24 pmUnless Groucho, Harpo, Chico, Zeppo or Gummo Marxist is very bad.

Korbyn [sickbag please] according to the Grauniad is a Marxist. Therefore he's very bad. He also drinks apple juice on Christmas day. This makes him the spawn of Satan. Although not as evil as his sidekick Warden Hodges, he's more evil than BLiar.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/nov/19/marxist-corbyn-revolution-ken-livingstone-labour
but is marxism bad?
Bond, Rufus, Dash and Blaize.

Bez

I've just liked Bisto's post about Boris & Slim's post about Corbyn....

Shows what a mess we're in...
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captainkurtz

I've just liked your post, Bez...lol.

What times...
Anger is a gift.

Bez

Quote from: captainkurtz on December 09, 2019, 09:09:50 amI've just liked your post, Bez...lol.

What times...
....and I've just liked your post about liking my post...at least social media is still functioning....
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Nïckslïkk2112

Quote from: Bez on December 09, 2019, 09:37:43 amat least social media is still functioning....
More's the pity.

A major cause of the shallowness and infantilism affecting today's world.
Legend in my own Mind<br /><br />

Not enough war
Not enough famine
Not enough suffering
Not enough natural selection

döm

Johnson reallly going for the populist lowest common denominator vote.

EU migrants have been able to treat the country "as if it was their own" for far too long.

Add xenophobe to his long list of faults making him totally incapable of being a leader of the country.
When the truth offends we lie and lie until we can longer remember it is even there. But it is still there. Every lie we tell incurs a debt to the truth. Sooner or later, that debt is repaid

Nïckslïkk2112

Is he buggery a Xenophobe. He's a bloody Turkish immigrant! To moan about immigrants would make him a hypocrite. Oh, wait, he's a politician...

Yes, he's a politician. He's saying to the people what he thinks they want to hear. That's what they do.

The only solution - no Jezza, not the final one - is to write on your voting paper: NONE OF THE BELOW.
Legend in my own Mind<br /><br />

Not enough war
Not enough famine
Not enough suffering
Not enough natural selection

Matt2112

Quote from: döm on December 09, 2019, 14:12:35 pmJohnson reallly going for the populist lowest common denominator vote.

EU migrants have been able to treat the country "as if it was their own" for far too long.

Add xenophobe to his long list of faults making him totally incapable of being a leader of the country.
And this is why we're faced with voting for the least of all evils; Johnson's comments are at best badly-phrased.  But consider that the party against whom he's in a two-horse race have an ongoing serious problem with institutional Anti-Semitism* - it doesn't compare.


* Whether intended or not is not the issue - its the outcome that is.  And as Labour has been saddled with it throughout Corbyn's leadership, accordingly the party and indeed the electorate need to take an honest view on this.
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döm

Quote from: Nïckslïkk2112 on December 09, 2019, 14:32:00 pmIs he buggery a Xenophobe. He's a bloody Turkish immigrant! To moan about immigrants would make him a hypocrite. Oh, wait, he's a politician...

Yes, he's a politician. He's saying to the people what he thinks they want to hear. That's what they do.

The only solution - no Jezza, not the final one - is to write on your voting paper: NONE OF THE BELOW.
Exactly he's a populist, pandering to the masses.  Saying what he thinks they want to hear
When the truth offends we lie and lie until we can longer remember it is even there. But it is still there. Every lie we tell incurs a debt to the truth. Sooner or later, that debt is repaid

captainkurtz

Quote from: Matt2112 on December 09, 2019, 14:35:02 pmAnd this is why we're faced with voting for the least of all evils; Johnson's comments are at best badly-phrased.  But consider that the party against whom he's in a two-horse race have an ongoing serious problem with institutional Anti-Semitism* - it doesn't compare.


* Whether intended or not is not the issue - its the outcome that is.  And as Labour has been saddled with it throughout Corbyn's leadership, accordingly the party and indeed the electorate need to take an honest view on this.
the Uk is divided..as the heart and mind collided, as the people left unguided....LOL

Neither BJ and JC are worthy of a vote....
Anger is a gift.

döm

Quote from: Matt2112 on December 09, 2019, 14:35:02 pmAnd this is why we're faced with voting for the least of all evils; Johnson's comments are at best badly-phrased.  But consider that the party against whom he's in a two-horse race have an ongoing serious problem with institutional Anti-Semitism* - it doesn't compare.


* Whether intended or not is not the issue - its the outcome that is.  And as Labour has been saddled with it throughout Corbyn's leadership, accordingly the party and indeed the electorate need to take an honest view on this.
I think the Tory party has just a big a problem with this as the Labour party.  I get the impression that the Jewish community make more of an issue with it when it comes from the Labour party is down to their anti-Israel stance
When the truth offends we lie and lie until we can longer remember it is even there. But it is still there. Every lie we tell incurs a debt to the truth. Sooner or later, that debt is repaid

rufus the dawg

Quote from: Matt2112 on December 09, 2019, 14:35:02 pmAnd this is why we're faced with voting for the least of all evils; Johnson's comments are at best badly-phrased.  But consider that the party against whom he's in a two-horse race have an ongoing serious problem with institutional Anti-Semitism* - it doesn't compare.


* Whether intended or not is not the issue - its the outcome that is.  And as Labour has been saddled with it throughout Corbyn's leadership, accordingly the party and indeed the electorate need to take an honest view on this.
The CONservatives have the same amount Anti semitism has the labour party, and the CONservatives have a very serious Islamophobic problem.

Will you be taking an honest view on the Islamophobic Boris Johnson and the conservatives then?
Bond, Rufus, Dash and Blaize.

Bisto

December 10, 2019, 11:05:27 am #103 Last Edit: December 10, 2019, 12:13:42 pm by Bisto
Quote from: rufus the dawg on December 10, 2019, 03:41:37 amThe CONservatives have the same amount Anti semitism has the labour party, and the CONservatives have a very serious Islamophobic problem.

Will you be taking an honest view on the Islamophobic Boris Johnson and the conservatives then?
Quote from: döm on December 09, 2019, 14:47:32 pmI think the Tory party has just a big a problem with this as the Labour party.  I get the impression that the Jewish community make more of an issue with it when it comes from the Labour party is down to their anti-Israel stance


It's clear that there is a politically motivated campaign by The Tories and Conservative and Zionist Jews to discredit Corbyn and paint the Labour party as institutionally anti-Semitic.

Corbyn has publicly stated that he recognises the
rights of both Palestine and Israel states to exist, he's been clear on that, what he opposes is unchecked Zionist expansion and the persecution of the Palestinian people.

According to a survey by the Institute for Jewish Policy Research in 2010 on the political leanings of British Jews,.... Jewish men, religious Jews (of both genders), married Jews, self employed Jews and West London and Hertfordshire Jews all tend to be predominantly Tory voters; whereas female Jews, single Jews, employed Jews, East End London Jews and those living in the north of England as well as secular Jews tend to favour Labour.

It would be interesting and, I suspect, very revealing, to discover where most of the complaints of Anti-Semitism come from in light of those demographics.

I'm not saying that Anti Semitism doesn't exist at all within the Labour party, and Corbyn has always said that it has no place within it; but my guess is that there is actually a lot more Anti Zionism (which, imho, is a perfectly legitimate political position to take and not of itself Racist) than actual anti Semitism.
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Quote from: Nïckslïkk2112 on December 09, 2019, 10:03:36 amMore's the pity.

A major cause of the shallowness and infantilism affecting today's world.
I'm not disagreeing with that...
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