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What saved guitar rock in the 90s Grunge or Brit pop?

Started by rufus the dawg, September 07, 2018, 16:41:51 pm

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rufus the dawg

Quote from: döm on October 19, 2018, 19:25:32 pm

I've never heard Talk. Missed it when it came out and now I'm revisiting with Spotify and its not been released on that medium.



This is the long epic song from talk.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Ovt7mm4EYE

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Nïckslïkk2112

Quote from: döm on October 19, 2018, 19:25:32 pm

I've never heard Talk. Missed it when it came out and now I'm revisiting with Spotify and its not been released on that medium.

It has to be heard on vinyl :)
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Matt2112

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döm

You can check out any time you like but you can never leave!

döm

You can check out any time you like but you can never leave!

döm

Quote from: Matt2112 on October 22, 2018, 15:25:47 pm
Talk is an absolutely glorious album. :)



Appetite whetted. Have to check out the whole thing
You can check out any time you like but you can never leave!

Matt2112

Quote from: döm on October 22, 2018, 22:56:01 pm

Appetite whetted. Have to check out the whole thing



It's pretty much proggy pop-rock perfection and the production in particular is pristine!  :)
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rufus the dawg

Quote from: Matt2112 on October 23, 2018, 12:17:02 pm

It's pretty much proggy pop-rock perfection and the production in particular is pristine!  :)



Yes and some of the Rabin guitar solos really hit the spot if you have a descent hifi


They shake the room. Brilliant.

The Old Dog

Quote from: Nïckslïkk2112 on September 07, 2018, 19:23:36 pm
It's quite obvious really - HEAVY METAL - like a musical Exlax  it's been keeping guitar rock going since its birth. 70s 80s 90s 00s and now HEAVY METAL is bringing the world together though LOUD GEETARS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

KERRANG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

No argument from me there Simmers though some would cite the 60s as the birth of heavy rock /progressive at al .Grunge like britpop were as all these things were just a passing fad much like punk and the new romantic rubbish before them , popular muzak is cyclical in nature and it is probably on it's way back around again doesn't make it any less crap though .

Slim

Quote from: döm on September 27, 2018, 14:30:30 pm

Just being going through some of the Yes back catalogue and was thinking about this. I think their finest album is Going for The One - the majesty of Awaken and Turn of the Century is to me their most exquisite  piece. Rick and Yes at their finest.  How they could go from this to Tormato with the same line up  a year later defies belief. Rick's keyboards just jar, as does Steve's guitar. Would have been better for everyone if it had never been released.

Yes, it was a horrible disappointment. I don't agree that GTFO is their best album; I think Close To The Edge stands head and shoulders above the rest of their canon and I'd give The Yes Album a strong second place. But GFTO is an exquisite, magical record nonetheless. Tormato is limp and cringy.
Then again almost the same lineup recorded Fragile, and that's not much cop either.

rufus the dawg

Quote from: Slim on November 27, 2018, 09:09:45 am
Yes, it was a horrible disappointment. I don't agree that GTFO is their best album; I think Close To The Edge stands head and shoulders above the rest of their canon and I'd give The Yes Album a strong second place. But GFTO is an exquisite, magical record nonetheless. Tormato is limp and cringy.
Then again almost the same lineup recorded Fragile, and that's not much cop either.



Thoughts on Tales or Relayer?


Weirdly Union is better than the reviews would have you believe.


ABWH is brilliant

Matt2112

Quote from: rufus the dawg on December 07, 2018, 22:51:30 pm

Thoughts on Tales or Relayer?

Weirdly Union is better than the reviews would have you believe.

ABWH is brilliant



Agree with those last two points.


I dug out Tales a couple of months ahead of it being played almost in its entirety (and stunningly) by not-ARW Yes (with Howe etc) earlier this year.  I listened to it intently for weeks on my commute and it slowly unfurled its rewards.  It's big and bloated, obviously, but nowhere near as impenetrable as some reviews would have you believe.  Ritual is wonderful in particular.  It takes an investment but in my opinion it's very much worth it.


I think Relayer is fantastic.  The Gates Of Delerium is a magnificent musical "journey".  Sound Chaser is utterly batsh!t and possibly the most "proggy" track they ever did.  To Be Over is poles apart from that, very accessible and just, well, "nice".


The 70s albums are a real treasure trove pretty much throughout really. :)
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DavidL

Quote from: Matt2112 on December 08, 2018, 11:56:43 am

Agree with those last two points.


I dug out Tales a couple of months ahead of it being played almost in its entirety (and stunningly) by not-ARW Yes (with Howe etc) earlier this year.  I listened to it intently for weeks on my commute and it slowly unfurled its rewards.  It's big and bloated, obviously, but nowhere near as impenetrable as some reviews would have you believe.  Ritual is wonderful in particular.  It takes an investment but in my opinion it's very much worth it.


The Ancient is a load of bollocks though.......isn't it?

Matt2112

Quote from: DavidL on December 08, 2018, 12:46:13 pm
The Ancient is a load of bollocks though.......isn't it?



All I'll say is I would rank it as the least strongest track on Tales.  :)
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