Started by Bez, June 14, 2017, 10:00:14 am
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Quote from: Moving Target on June 21, 2017, 08:37:31 amThere are several people with a duty of care here.First of all there is a single Responsible Person as per the fire risk assessment.The landlord has the duty under RR(FS)2005 to make sure that the fire alarms ring, mag-lock fire doors swing shut, smoke venting operates and the emergency lights work.The Designer under CDM2015 has the duty to design out any risks.The Principal Contractor under CDM2015 has a duty not to use dangerous materials in building projects,
Quote from: Slim on June 23, 2017, 00:57:38 amI'd argue that there's a duty of care to keep electrical equipment maintained properly as well. I don't know that it was a faulty fridge that started this appalling fire, but if it was - while a fire shouldn't spread from a single dwelling to an entire tower block in a matter of minutes, it shouldn't really spread from a fridge to a wall, window frame or whatever in the first place.
Quote from: NeilP on June 23, 2017, 13:07:01 pmmost domestic appliances are safe if they're backed up via a rcd on the consumer unit, a legal requirement for rented accomodation these days I think
Quote from: Slim on June 16, 2017, 13:48:18 pmAfter absorbing the horror and tragedy of what happened here, something that struck me was the fact that the huge majority of occupants in this tower block were immigrants and their families. Please note that the following point has nothing to do with the fact of a fire starting in a building or its consequences; it's an observation that holds true whatever the circumstances.People complain about the number of homeless people in London and a lack of available housing, and laid bare on our TV screens these last two days is part of the problem - 24 storeys of social housing, overwhelmed by immigration.
Quote from: Moving Target on June 21, 2017, 08:44:27 amI nearly responded at length to Pie's video which I found irresponsible and wrong. I didn't because there's no reasoning with an angry mob, and everyone is suddenly a fire safety expert......
Quote from: DavidL on June 23, 2017, 20:24:44 pmThe evening news was reporting that the identification and number of those killed may never be known, partly because many occupants were not known to the local authority. It's probable that many who lived there were doing so illegally and quite possibly in overcrowded flats.
Quote from: NeilP on June 24, 2017, 01:59:53 amfake news from the Express or Mail that sounds to me tbh, not impressed
Quote from: Bez on June 26, 2017, 08:27:55 amJohn McDonnell quoted as claiming that the residents were "murdered" by political decisions taken over decades....what a loathesome twat.
Quote from: Slim on June 24, 2017, 01:28:47 amIt turns out that the same cladding was fitted to tower blocks in Camden in 2006. Aluminium panels with a polyethylene core. Fitted by the same contractor as Grenfell. It's going to be removed "immediately". Can any of our contributors explain how the present government's austerity programme might have been responsible for this?
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