Started by Bez, April 18, 2017, 12:08:06 pm
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Quote from: Bisto on April 19, 2017, 13:15:37 pmThis won't change anything. The Tories will still go ahead with the Election...in fact they obviously had wind of this and probably decided to call the snap election before the CPS brought the charges to bear, thus effectively ensuring that Labour and the other opposition parties will be too busy getting their Election campaigns into gear and committing their resources to that rather than initiate a co-ordinated public campaign in the Media calling the Torries bent and calling the legitimacy of the Election result into question with the view to mounting a legal challenge.
Quote from: Bisto on April 19, 2017, 13:15:37 pmFaced with a choice between the lesser of two evils the non partisan/thinking Electorate will, by and large, hold their noses or sleep walk through the forthcoming election, resigned to the futility of engaging with what is already an assured and inevitable outcome, and, in Democratic terms, as close to a rigged result as you can get without actually changing the Boundaries or breaking the Law.
Quote from: Nïckslïkk2112 on April 19, 2017, 13:41:18 pmI've mentioned this before, but the likelihood of the Conservatives being brought to book for this has been around for weeks, months even. Labour and the LibDims are fully aware of it, but they won't try and make political capital out of it because people in glass houses don't throw stones.
Quote from: DavidL on April 19, 2017, 14:32:14 pmIt sounds to me like democracy is really not for you then.
Quote from: Nïckslïkk2112 on April 19, 2017, 13:42:33 pmOh good, Six - at least - jobs Gideon is quitting.Perhaps forcing him out is the reason for a snap election?
Quote from: Bisto on April 19, 2017, 14:41:14 pmThis Election will be another defeat for the Party but a failure to mobilise the Tory vote of an increasingly apathetic Electorate may mean that May only has a slightly increased majority and that Corbyn still survives....
Quote from: Bisto on April 19, 2017, 15:18:40 pmWhy not be honest and admit that we haven't got access to a REAL functioning Democracy?! .... its just an abstract ideal that the Establishment has conditioned its wage slaves to cherish and accept; a vote is a Sop to throw us every now and then in order to help placate us and keep us in a coma and hooked into the Matrix.....here ya go...heres a meaningless vote...now get back to your tedious, meaningless 9 - 5 job/marriage/2.4 kids/25 year mortgage/Consumer lifestyle/CC debt hamster wheel
Quote from: Matt2112 on April 19, 2017, 17:58:54 pmSo if we did have, as you put it, a real, functioning democracy where every vote was meaningful, what would that look like? Something not radically different from the scenarios you go on to list Renton-style, I'd say.
Quote from: Bisto on April 19, 2017, 23:34:42 pmSorry, who, or what is "Renton"...?
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