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Quote from: DavidL on May 14, 2019, 21:57:10 pmThat a Remainer PM assisted by a Remainer civil service has made a complete hash of enacting the result of the referendum (intentionally?).
Quote from: DavidL on May 14, 2019, 21:57:10 pm Remainer civil service
Quote from: rufus the dawg on May 14, 2019, 22:41:58 pmDavid Davies and Dominic Raaaaab were the brexit secretaries both leavers, so completely untrue
Quote from: rufus the dawg on May 14, 2019, 22:43:05 pmproof please
Quote from: DavidL on May 14, 2019, 21:57:10 pmI've heared this notion that the electorate would be better informed for a second referendum many times before.....always from Remainers.
Quote from: DavidL on May 14, 2019, 23:54:58 pmOliver Robbinshttps://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2018/12/12/theresa-mays-die-hard-remainer-advisers-blamed-many-brexit/When he was at university he ran a pro-federal Europe group called the Oxford Reform Group (source: The Guardian)
Quote from: DavidL on May 15, 2019, 00:11:18 amYou haven't explained why this sentence makes me a liar, rufus
Quote from: rufus the dawg on May 15, 2019, 00:42:32 amJust watch question time... people on their voted to leave and now they want a second referendum. My neighbors,My friends,The farmers all around me I speak to.All changed their minds.The polls.... leave... should way ahead, leave are way behind, that says to me people have changed their minds. They are everywhere.
Quote from: DavidL on May 14, 2019, 21:57:10 pmThat a Remainer PM assisted by a Remainer civil service has made a complete hash of enacting the result of the referendum (intentionally?). Both parties ably assisted by duplicitous MPs who, having promised to honour the result, have done everything in their power to do the opposite. It may be more important to consider what we (still) do not know.GOOD POINT!1. Where we would be now, had the negotiations been conducted by persons who believed in the opportunities presented by leaving the EU, rather than a team that were happy to capitulate at the first time of asking to produce a 'treaty' that amounts to little more than a scuttle.OUT AND BOOMING!2. What is the intention of the EU towards its stated aims of a Federal Europe. What is the direction of travel and what will the EU look like in 5, 10, 20 years from now?I DON'T LIKE THE LOOK OF IT. SOUTHERN EUROPEAN COUNTRIES ARE REALLY HURTING THANKS TO THE PARITY OF CURRENCIES AND, IN SOME CASES, THE UNREALISTIC RATES THE EURO WAS ADOPTED AT.3. What is the EU's answer to the migration disaster continuing to affect member states?THEY DON'T SEE IT AS A DISASTER. IT'S PART OF A WIDER PLAN. IF YOU IGNORE THE DISTORTED 'WHITE SUPREMACIST' TAKE ON 'THE KALERGI PLAN'. IT MAKES SENSE. WHILST THE DEVELOPED WORLD KEEPS RELYING ON CONSTANT GROWTH IT WILL NEED A CONSTANT INCREASE IN HUMAN RESOURCES4. How will the single currency be made to work?IT WON'T IN THE LONG RUN. IT'S DOOMED.5. How will the EU combat the growing unrest and rise of nationalism among some member states?BY SHOUTING THEM DOWN AND CALLING THEM OUT AS RACISTS UNTIL THE PEOPLE FROM THOSE COUNTRIES GET SICK ENOUGH TO HAVE THEIR OWN REFERENDUM.6. Will Jean-Claude ever give up the grog?ONLY WHEN HE ACTUALLY DOES MANAGE TO SET FIRE TO A VISITING DIGNITARY OR FALL DOWN SOME STEPS.7. Will Guy Verhofstadt ever stop scaring children?....AND ADULTS. HE COMES ACROSS AS QUITE PLAUSIBLE IN ONE TO ONE INTERVIEWS BUT HIS RANTS ON THE FLOOR OF THE EUROPEAN PARLIAMENT ARE LIKE A ONE MAN NUREMBURG RALLY SOMETIMES!It's clear to me that the only place answers are to be found to those questions and many more that would assist in making 'the right' choice, is within a very effective (not Mark Carney's) crystal ball.DON'T GET ME STARTED ON THAT PRICK!In my opinion we really are not much better informed than we were in 2016 - to suggest otherwise is an attempt to con the public. The idea that Article 50 should be revoked is perhaps a promise that should be made by the PM before the 23rd May. I confidently predict it would secure even more votes for the Brexit party. I do though agree with your suggestion that Theresa May should resign.YOU ARE PROBABLY RIGHT BUT IT WOULD BE BETTER THAN THE GRADUAL SLIPPERY SLOPE TOWARDS OUR PARLIAMENT ACTUALLY VOTING FOR THE SUBJUGATION OF OUR NATION. WE WOULD BE LITTLE MORE THAN A EUROPEAN COLONY IF MAY'S DEAL GOES THROUGH.
Quote from: BasspedalMan on May 16, 2019, 20:50:54 pmYOU ARE PROBABLY RIGHT BUT IT WOULD BE BETTER THAN THE GRADUAL SLIPPERY SLOPE TOWARDS OUR PARLIAMENT ACTUALLY VOTING FOR THE SUBJUGATION OF OUR NATION. WE WOULD BE LITTLE MORE THAN A EUROPEAN COLONY IF MAY'S DEAL GOES THROUGH.
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