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Quote from: rufus the dawg on December 03, 2018, 13:23:39 pmI hate admitting when I have done something daft, even to my wife who I know always has my back!
Quote from: The Letter R on December 05, 2018, 08:56:25 amNever known a Government look so weak and inept whilst the opposition appears to not care and be so incompetent to gain the upper hand.May is a Remainer forced to play the Leave card whilst Corbyn is a Leaver forced to pretend he is a little bit remain whilst removing a splinter from his arse.It's a shame when we need a strong Government and Parliament we are at the point in History when we have the 2 weakest Parties in-fighting and fighting each other.If we put on a united front in our negotiations with Europe things could be a lot different......anyones guess where it goes from here........
Quote from: Slim on December 02, 2018, 15:35:54 pmPlease don't worry - I might have been concerned if you hadn't been hopelessly wide of the mark as usual, but as things stand - you're good.Daniel Hannan was indeed entirely wrong about the single market. But he was not an official spokesperson for the government or the Leave campaign. Nor was he lying, I suspect. Still less at "every opportunity". Actually the one thing we can say with some degree of certainty other than that we voted to leave the EU, is that we voted to leave the single market - because we were given assurances by politicians on both sides of the argument, including the Prime Minister and the Chancellor, that this would be the case.
Quote from: Slim on December 02, 2018, 15:35:54 pmThe remark about the housing crisis is self-evidently not a lie; it's common sense. Just because you can't think of a way that not sending massive quantities of cash to Brussels every year might help with the housing crisis doesn't mean that others can't. And you know what? If you think about it really hard - really, really hard? You might be able to think of one yourself!
Quote from: Slim on December 04, 2018, 19:09:56 pmChrist and he's using the key debate of the defining issue of our time as a general purpose stopped record soap box for poverty / local council funding etc etc.
Quote from: Slim on December 02, 2018, 15:35:54 pmNobody promised the NHS £350 million a week,
Quote from: Slim on December 02, 2018, 15:35:54 pmany more than I promised you the Commons would have a vote on the May deal last week - as I hope the most recent image I posted has helped you to understand.
Quote from: Slim on December 02, 2018, 15:35:54 pmPerhaps I'm being optimistic there. Bear in mind that Boris Johnson was a backbench MP at the time those pics with the bus were taken. If backbench MPs had the power to effect government policy like that,
Quote from: Slim on December 02, 2018, 15:35:54 pmJeremy Corbyn would have given Northern Ireland to the Republic in the '80s.
Quote from: Slim on December 02, 2018, 15:35:54 pmThe claim that £350 million a week was promised to the NHS is itself a laughable, ridiculous lie, albeit one that many have been suckered by, apparently including contributors to this thread. But it does have the value of showing how dishonest the Remain campaign has continued to be, long after the people rejected its nonsense in a referendum.
Quote from: Slim on December 02, 2018, 15:35:54 pmWe voted to Leave the EU. And yes, OK, it's fair to say that the people voted to leave the Single Market. Other than that though,
Quote from: Slim on December 02, 2018, 15:35:54 pmwe didn't vote for a deal.
Quote from: Slim on December 02, 2018, 15:35:54 pmWe've never had a referendum to determine our trading arrangements with China, the US, Japan, the EU itself or any other entity, and we don't need one now.
Quote from: Slim on December 05, 2018, 10:47:57 amCome on then, rufus - you can do it.I have no problem personally admitting I was lied to.Fortunately I didn't believe them, and apparently neither did the majority of voters.
Quote from: Nick on December 06, 2018, 15:43:59 pmI think the country is in paralysis, too dangerous to risk no deal, too pointless to accept Mays plan, too worrying to risk a new ref. How is this ever going to end?
Quote from: Slim on December 06, 2018, 20:01:28 pmThe alleged dangers of a WTO rules, clean Brexit have been exaggerated greatly, as David Davis explained very eloquently and authoritatively today.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKtF_q5M5H0Some of our contributors would do well to listen and learn.But to answer your question, we leave the EU on March 29th. Personally I hope for a clean, orderly no deal Brexit. But I suspect the reality of no deal will concentrate minds on the other side of the channel, and despite the intransigence they've expressed in recent days - they'll compromise quite a bit.I think people forget what the EU stands to lose in this. It's not just the £39 billion of our money that they want to get their hands on.
Quote from: rufus the dawg on December 06, 2018, 21:49:11 pmDavid Davies, He was negotiating this deal but did not bother turning up, I read somewhere he only spent 4 hours negotiating with Michel Barnier. What plonker.
Quote from: DavidL on December 06, 2018, 23:51:17 pmHe wasn't negotiating the deal, No.10 was (by their own admission). Both Davies and Raab had their hands tied.
Quote from: döm on December 07, 2018, 00:29:15 amJust as well
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