Started by Nick, October 20, 2016, 17:02:39 pm
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Quote from: Slim on August 02, 2017, 23:13:52 pmThere is no "hard Brexit", there is leaving the EU, and various degrees of staying in it against the wishes of the United Kingdom.
Quote from: Moving Target on August 03, 2017, 06:55:47 amYeah, a lot of Quitters say that. I don't think it will happen. As more jobs and more pensions are threatened, more people will change their minds. In any event, the older people who voted Leave are dying off. At some point the consensus will change.
Quote from: NeilP on August 03, 2017, 23:32:40 pmhttps://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/aug/03/second-brexit-referendum-case-getting-stronger-political-deadlock-life-raft?CMP=twt_gu
Quote from: DavidL on August 03, 2017, 08:34:04 amA lot of Remoaners say that. As the true nature of the EU is revealed by their ridiculous approach to negotiations, ,the certain collapse of the absurd single currency and the EU's failure to prevent mass immigration a lot of Remainers are realising that the best thing for the UK is to leave.
Quote from: NeilP on August 04, 2017, 07:09:07 amPerhaps Vernon Bogdanor knows a little more on the subject matter than you David, just a thought?https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vernon_Bogdanor
Quote from: DavidL on August 04, 2017, 07:20:10 amHe probably knows as much as David Cameron, George Osborne, Mark Carney, Christine Lagarde etc. I know they're all pissed that we voted to leave the EU
Quote from: Moving Target on August 04, 2017, 07:46:38 amAre you a Septic? They are "pissed off"!
Quote from: Moving Target on August 04, 2017, 07:18:50 amI think the EU's position is quite reasonable. We can't have single market access without accepting the four freedoms.
Quote from: Moving Target on August 04, 2017, 07:18:50 amWe're not in the Euro.
Quote from: Moving Target on August 04, 2017, 07:18:50 amAs we are not in Schengen either, so we are insulated from the migrant wave that we helped create, but a lot of Brextremists don't know what Schengen is.
Quote from: DavidL on August 04, 2017, 13:49:28 pmThe EU has just struck, what is hailed as, a great trading agreement with Canada. I don't believe free movement is part of it.That is so but remaining in the EU would require us to contribute to financial assistance should one member fail to meet its loan obligations (see Greece....and soon Italy)Although not in Schengen, its failure has negative impacts on the UK. An example being the freedom with which migrants can cross the continent and mass at Calais causing chaos and danger for anyone using the port, especially UK hauliers.The EU can't be reasonable, they need to discourage other members from leaving.
Quote from: NeilP on August 11, 2017, 12:38:39 pmhttp://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-40897927
Quote from: DavidL on August 11, 2017, 13:48:00 pm'The Democrats'
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