Started by Nick, October 20, 2016, 18:02:39 pm
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Quote from: DavidL on July 05, 2017, 14:30:14 pmDoes anyone really blame immigrants for all the woes in society? It's our leaders who got us into this mess, not immigrants. They just want a better life, unfortunately our politicians continue to promise it for them, here in Europe.Bill Gates seems to get it:http://www.news.com.au/world/europe/bill-gates-cautions-europe-on-its-open-door-immigration-policy/news-story/69aa93741619820a5e13093ba9c7294e
Quote from: döm on July 06, 2017, 00:24:13 amYou're just playing with words there. Although some may not directly blame immigrants themselves, immigration takes the blame for dropping wage growth, the housing and NHS crisis, etc, etc when in reality its poor planning and mismanagement by Government.
Quote from: Nick on July 05, 2017, 19:16:46 pmJune 2016 is a very different picture to today's economy, we have seen investment drop in the auto industry, a huge increase in the price of goods a weak pound and a weak government. Would we vote for Brexit in July 17 with what we know now? No rational person would.
Quote from: döm on July 06, 2017, 00:16:02 amWhose liberty? It's all a charade
Quote from: zoony on July 06, 2017, 15:19:22 pmThere are plenty of European countries not in the EU. Are they all doing shit? I don't think so.
Quote from: Nick on July 06, 2017, 21:46:44 pmWell , 4 countries really, Norway, Switzerland,Iceland and Liechtenstein. Are they doing shit? i don't know but a couple at least are tax havens and the other two rely on fish.
Quote from: Bisto on July 06, 2017, 14:46:06 pmPlaying Devil's advocate here but at what point, if any, would you abandon your principles, take a more pragmatic approach and vote to remain in a second referendum? Or would you be playing in the string quartet as the Titanic is pulled under the icy waters?
Quote from: DavidL on July 05, 2017, 14:30:14 pmDoes anyone really blame immigrants for all the woes in society?
Quote from: Slim on July 17, 2017, 12:35:26 pmI would say that recent interventions by prominent Remoaners, including I must admit senior figures in the Conservative Party, have undermined the UK's position somewhat.It is long past time for these people to accept that we're leaving the EU and get behind their country. It is they who will be to blame if we fail to arrive at a less-than-optimal outcome.Nonetheless I'm satisfied that whatever deal we arrive at will be a more positive outcome than remaining in the EU.
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