Started by Nick, October 20, 2016, 18:02:39 pm
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Quote from: döm on June 09, 2017, 10:02:06 amSo the DUP want a comprehensive free trade and Customs deal with the EU.There maybe trouble ahead...
Quote from: The Letter R on June 13, 2017, 09:30:04 amThe free movement of Europeans within Europe I don't see as a big problem ( sure it was made more problematic when some of the old Eastern Bloc Countries got brought into the fold ).But if you look at the people that currently keep our Service and Hospitality Industries our NHS, Agriculture and Construction running a large % would be Europeans - as the NHS is finding already if this source of labour dries up we are in trouble. Factor in the return of retirement age Brits who have been living in the Costa Del Sol to further clog the NHS as they are being kicked out of Spain or not allowed to leave to live there then we start to see real problems.It's not even like the UK is currently suffering from high un-employment so these people can't be accused of "stealing jobs" either.For me, I think we need to work harder to prevent non Europeans from entering the UK and Political refugees who have already traveled through half of Europe to get to us. Obviously we need to take our quota like many Countries do but for those that come here from Europe to work and learn - paying taxes back into our system I don't have an issue - in fact I think they are essential to our Countries continued growth.We need to remember it works both ways - we benefit greatly from the Freedom of Movement in Europe. I wonder how many of those that voted for Brexit will be grumbling when they go on holiday to Spain and find they have to queue in the non EU Citizen lines at the Spanish Airport for 3 hours and also find their EU Health Card is no longer valid there. Or when they stay in the UK there is no one to pour their pint or clean their room as all The Polish have gone home......Many people had different reasons for voting Brexit or Remain - which is why getting the "right" deal is impossible as everyone has their own idea of what life outside the EU should look like.
Quote from: DavidL on June 13, 2017, 10:47:48 am You suggest that we should do more to prevent non-Europeans from coming here but why the discrimination?
Quote from: The Letter R on June 13, 2017, 14:19:15 pmWell this is driven by the fact that we have more control over this - ie not driven by EU Directives and to almost mirror other non EU Countries - we only allow people in on a points based or similar system just as a UK Resident would when trying to move to another Country.
Quote from: DavidL on June 13, 2017, 15:20:20 pmI understand this but it's wrong, IMO, that we should not have these same controls for EU citizens rather than have no control just because their own countries belong to the same 'club'.
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