Brexit watch

[DavidL]

Aaah, only two years now 

[Slim]

The Tory manifesto made a form comimmtment to remain in the single market.  There was a whole heap of stuff said in the lead up to the referendum including plenty of indication that the UK could remain in the single market so that line really doesn't hold water.

The Prime Minister, the Chancellor of the Exchequer, the present Foreign Secretary and several other prominent figures of authority on both sides of the argument made it expressly clear that leaving the EU would mean leaving the Single Market - that's a matter of record. That's the unambiguous context in which we cast our votes on June 23rd, and any thought of remaining in the Single Market would obviously be a serious betrayal of the electors.

Just the facts.

[NeilP]

A secret dinner that was photographed and in all the papers. Very secret.

There was one report I believe, the one I posted.... others reported from that later on.


I think it was the CIA who interfered in Ukraine and if you believe Russia are impotent and non influential then you sound somewhat naive?

[DavidL]

I think it was the CIA who interfered in Ukraine and if you believe Russia are impotent and non influential then you sound somewhat naive?

I think Nick is correct on EU meddling in Ukraine.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/dec/15/ukraine-will-not-join-eu-dutch-are-promised-in-effort-to-save-treaty

Reports suggest that Ukranians will be granted visa-free travel by the end of June. The EU has been schmoozing with Ukraine for months (antagonizing Russia in the process)

[döm]

The Prime Minister, the Chancellor of the Exchequer, the present Foreign Secretary and several other prominent figures of authority on both sides of the argument made it expressly clear that leaving the EU would mean leaving the Single Market - that's a matter of record. That's the unambiguous context in which we cast our votes on June 23rd, and any thought of remaining in the Single Market would obviously be a serious betrayal of the electors.

Just the facts.

It wasn't on the ballot paper and there was so much nonsense spoken on both sides, who knew what to believe?  It's not just the single market anyway but the whole relationship with Europe that needs addressing by parliament. The whole arrangement needs discussion and approval by the full parliament not just May and her crew. 

[DavidL]

It wasn't on the ballot paper and there was so much nonsense spoken on both sides, who knew what to believe?  It's not just the single market anyway but the whole relationship with Europe that needs addressing by parliament. The whole arrangement needs discussion and approval by the full parliament not just May and her crew.

Classic Remoaning

[döm]

Classic Remoaning

That's a pretty poor response David, I'm sure you can do better than that!

[DavidL]

That's a pretty poor response David, I'm sure you can do better than that!

Classic remoaning - A1-size paper required to satisfy your demands at the ballot box     
(better?)

[DavidL]

Good news from Vodafone -

http://news.sky.com/story/vodafone-to-creates-2100-jobs-in-uk-economy-investment-10800354

[döm]

Classic remoaning - A1-size paper required to satisfy your demands at the ballot box     
(better?)

Yes, better, it gives me something to reply to ! That's why it should never have gone to a referendum - (yes Matt I know we're supposed to look forward etc etc)  - it was far too complex an issue to be decided by a Yes No vote - shame on Cameron for pandering to the brexit wing of his party and to Faragism

[DavidL]

Yes, better, it gives me something to reply to ! That's why it should never have gone to a referendum - (yes Matt I know we're supposed to look forward etc etc)  - it was far too complex an issue to be decided by a Yes No vote - shame on Cameron for pandering to the brexit wing of his party and to Faragism

I think Sir Nigel would be delighted that you've bestowed upon him the accolade of an 'ism'. He did a great job. No doubt about it, he's fully deserving of that honour 

[döm]

I think Sir Nigel would be delighted that you've bestowed upon him the accolade of an 'ism'. He did a great job. No doubt about it, he's fully deserving of that honour 

to my mind it wasn't anything for him to be proud of !  [size=78%] But he had no power to carry out his wishes.  Didn't need power with Cameron there to give him his opportunity[/size]

[DavidL]

to my mind it wasn't anything for him to be proud of !  [size=78%] But he had no power to carry out his wishes.  Didn't need power with Cameron there to give him his opportunity[/size]

You have to agree that it's a pretty big accomplishment for a man without a seat in The House, from a party with one MP to dictate the direction of travel for a sitting government with a majority..........not to be sniffed at. Telling the truth is a powerful tool.

[Bisto]

Are the Brexit vote and Donald Trump being elected POTUS evidence that we are living in a real life, Matrix like, computer simulation?


https://theconversation.com/uk

[Slim]

No.

First Lords amendment kicked straight back, that's the one to guarantee EU citizens here right to remain. Good. Second amendment about to suffer the same fate I believe.