Started by Nick, October 20, 2016, 17:02:39 pm
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Quote from: NeilP on March 05, 2017, 10:38:45 amhttp://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-39151755
Quote from: Slim on March 05, 2017, 20:15:24 pmFair's fair, Hilary Benn actually expresses a bit of concern for British people as well as immigrants, as quoted in that piece. Surprising for a Labour politician, but credit where it's due.
Quote from: döm on March 05, 2017, 20:50:03 pmThat raises an interesting question, I think. Who should a UK politician have more concern for. Someone born abroad now living and working in the UK or the reverse. I think the former.
Quote from: Matt2112 on March 10, 2017, 08:06:13 amHe's a great man is RD, with whom I almost never disagree.On this however, it's just the same old familiar moot argument, and while there may be the odd fair point, it's generally mere post hoc hand-wringing over what's gone.We need astute commentary on the way forward, not pointless complaining.
Quote from: DavidL on March 10, 2017, 11:20:51 amContradicts himself in the first minute. Another sore loser who likes to call everyone who disagrees with him ignorant. Also puts great store in those with a PHD in economics - not that clever then are you, Richard? He's right about one thing, the arrogance of Cameron.The British people have spoken....you just didn't like what they had to say.
Quote from: NeilP on March 10, 2017, 12:31:06 pmit seemed a coherent argument to me, suggesting DC was at fault for not insisting on the 'what if' scenario with a significant majority etc - mostly due to his fear of UKiP
Quote from: DavidL on March 10, 2017, 13:27:13 pmTo have insisted on a 'significant' majority would have engendered even more mistrust of the political class. Cameron wanted to be seen as an 'honest broker' in the selling of the referendum to the British people. He was done up like a KIPper! Out of touch and arrogant - typical of many of his ilk. Of course Dawkins only argues the case now as he believes it would have preserved the status quo of which he is so fond - crying over spilt milk. Milton Friedman's "beware the tyranny of the status quo", never seemed so apt.
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