Started by Nick, October 20, 2016, 17:02:39 pm
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Quote from: DavidL on December 06, 2016, 18:59:58 pmThere's only one strand to the EU's approach and that is to keep the EU together....at any cost.
Quote from: Moving Target on December 06, 2016, 09:55:19 amWhat was their alternative in 2010? Coalition with an exhausted New Labour would not have resulted in a majority, at a time when the economy was close to falling off a cliff. Stability was needed - the Lib Dems provided it, and the deficit reduction plan came from their Danny Alexander.Right now, the Richmond result has ended the possibility of a snap election. If just twenty Tory pro-Remain seats fell to the Lib Dems, surfing the wave of anger from the 48%, the Tories would lose their majority.
Quote from: DavidL on December 06, 2016, 21:45:59 pmUK services sector grew at its fastest rate for ten months in November. Other good news: last month's rise in retail sales was 1.3% compared with 0.7% a year ago; car sales up 2.9% with record number (2.514m) of vehicles registered from January to November.Makes me think that there would've been a more comfortable win for 'Leave' had the Remain side not used threats of immediate economic doom to scare people out of voting to leave the EU.
Quote from: DavidL on December 08, 2016, 10:37:47 amSo, no surprise that EU-loving national treasure, Ken Clarke, stuck to his principles and voted against triggering Article 50 by the end of March in Parliament yesterday but what to make of that whining self-promoter Anna Soubry? Lost her nerve and backed the government, afterall. Of, course, the fact that she has an 8% majority in Broxtowe and her constituents voted Leave by a majority of 10% probably had nothing to do with it - 'Bottler'The government should now withdraw their appeal and stand down those eleven wig-wearing procrastinatinors and save the country some money.
Quote from: Bez on December 08, 2016, 11:14:44 amI still reckon that IF the referendum was re-run it would be a "remain" landslide....
Quote from: DavidL on December 06, 2016, 20:23:31 pmThey can certainly do without losing one of their largest contributors of finance. Unless they make some pretty fundamental changes (which I don't believe they're prepared to make) they are toast. They could start by allowing certain members to remove themselves, in an orderly fashion, from the eurozone. Secondly, place some kind of embargo on free movement until separate economies are more balanced (never?). Thirdly, devise some way of making the commission more accountable ( by comprising elected members). Finally, get to grips with the profligate over-spending and lack of fiscal discipline (start by doing away with Strasbourg).Address some of those issues and they might pull it back from the brink.
Quote from: döm on December 08, 2016, 13:56:04 pmThe UK's net contribution is approx 5 billion out of a budget of 145 billion.
Quote from: DavidL on December 08, 2016, 14:13:49 pmYou're about £3.5bn short in your approximation (just under 40, 200-bed hospitals)https://fullfact.org/europe/our-eu-membership-fee-55-million/
Quote from: döm on December 08, 2016, 15:44:23 pmI think Bez could well be right.....
Quote from: Nick on December 08, 2016, 19:01:33 pmWhy is BJ still Foreign Secretary? Again he has been reprimanded by the government for making spurious statements (Saudi this time), if he is not towing the governmental line what on earth is he doing?
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