Started by Nick, October 20, 2016, 18:02:39 pm
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Quote from: NeilP on October 25, 2016, 09:04:30 amI think the Wallonia barrier demonstrates how individual EU members have control over trade deals and that they are still free to make many decisions themselves. Wasn't that one of the arguments for leaving the EU, that we had lost our sovereignty?
Quote from: Slim on October 25, 2016, 00:07:18 amNeither do I, but I do recall seeing it affirmed unambiguously by prominent campaigners on both sides of the argument. David Cameron, Angela Leadsom, Michael Gove, Boris Johnson, George Osborne. All of them stated unambiguously that we would leave the single market following a Brexit vote, with the exception of Angela Leadsom who to be fair only described this as "almost certain".
Quote from: DavidL on October 24, 2016, 21:50:58 pmI think we may have a better chance, on our own, of negotiating a deal with Canada before 2024.
Quote from: NeilP on October 25, 2016, 13:32:14 pmperhaps so, tho currently they export to the UK 2x the value of what we export to them.
Quote from: Bez on October 25, 2016, 09:31:32 amDespite what others on here say, if the vote was run again we would see a different outcome - and no, I'm not advocating another vote, merely pointing out the breadth of feeling across the country.
Quote from: Nick on October 25, 2016, 19:15:57 pmYes, i think you are right, the sheer size of the task ahead is frightening and perhaps not possible. The schisms it has opened up amongst families, communities, North/South, Scotland/Wales, Northern Ireland just doesn't seem sensible in the slightest. To me its glaringly obvious we are going to be worse off as a society than we were before and worse off economically. The business case of cost/benefits has never been published, wish we could stop this madness.
Quote from: döm on October 25, 2016, 14:44:19 pm53% of UKs exports went to the EU in 2015https://fullfact.org/europe/uk-eu-trade/The UK exported 13% of its GDP to the EU and the EU exported 3% of its GDP to the EU% of UKs exports went to the EU in 2015
Quote from: Bez on October 25, 2016, 09:31:32 amAbsolutely....I think much of that historically has been the government's (various) lack of backbone in standing up to the EU and particularly the ECoHRDespite what others on here say, if the vote was run again we would see a different outcome - and no, I'm not advocating another vote, merely pointing out the breadth of feeling across the country.
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