Started by Nick, October 20, 2016, 18:02:39 pm
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Quote from: rufus the dawg on September 16, 2019, 22:56:36 pmSlim I have to disagree with you. The mess TM and BJ have made is causing massive resentment towards the Conservative party, politics and politicians in general. A final say referendum is a way forward on a deal that BJ comes up with. Considering he himself has changed in mind many times in the way he voted for TM deal and is now trying to get a new deal
Quote from: DavidL on September 20, 2019, 08:01:56 am"We will not alter the withdrawal agreement""We are not going to re-negotiate TM's deal""We will not change the backstop""Well, we might" Blinkers
Quote from: The Letter R on September 20, 2019, 09:44:37 amBlinkers!!! ;-)https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-40667879/eu-trade-deal-easiest-in-human-history
Quote from: DavidL on September 20, 2019, 11:39:58 am"The only reason we wouldn't come to a free and open agreement is because politics gets in the way of economics,"
Quote from: döm on September 20, 2019, 15:14:42 pmIf it was just about economics, there's no way the UK would have voted to leave in the first place
Quote from: Slim on September 20, 2019, 01:34:11 amTheresa made a mess; Boris so far is doing a very good job - in very difficult circumstances - of cleaning it up. The polls don't really support your view about the Tories being the object of massive resentment; in fact they have gained popularity since Boris took over. There has admittedly been a substantial loss of support to the Brexit Party but those people wouldn't agree with your stance on another referendum.There is no possible "final say" referendum that the establishment will accept and the fact that the last one was described by both sides as being the final say underlines that. The remain-obsessed political classes will always find another excuse for another referendum until they've frightened people enough to win one, then they'll go back to refusing one for decades like they did before the last one. They are only interested in a democracy that serves their own interests.
Quote from: undefinedThe world of tomorrow is not a world order based on nation states or countries. It is a world order that is based on empires. China, is not a nation, it's a civilisation. India... is not a nation... The US is also an empire, more than a nation... And then finally the Russian federation.The world of tomorrow is a world of empires in which we Europeans, and you British, can only defend your interests, your way of life, by doing it together, in a European framework and in the European Union.
Quote from: Nick on September 22, 2019, 21:55:40 pmDon't think a vote to leave is going to make us a stronger country though, we'll end up being a nation with no global influence whatsoever but doing a nice trade in shortbread, novelty ales, pasties and speciality Teas.
Quotebut doing a nice trade in shortbread, novelty ales, pasties and speciality Teas.
Quote from: DavidL on September 22, 2019, 22:30:11 pmSpeculation
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