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June 16, 2019, 03:33:34 am

Brexit watch

Started by Nick, October 20, 2016, 17:02:39 pm

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DavidL

This is rather amusing. JRM skewering Verhofstadt on the EU's ridiculous position on a hard border in Ireland:

https://youtu.be/I4w7W-rduZ8

The Letter R

Quote from: Slim on January 03, 2019, 23:46:27 pm
There's a rather nice irony there - in that the claim that the Leave campaign warned that "80 million Turks" might come to the UK is itself a Remainer lie. One of Vince Cable's, if I remember correctly - yep, just Googled it:

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-vince-cable-vote-leave-turks-live-village-80-million-liberal-democrat-leader-church-halls-a7835891.html

As a matter of fact, what Vince actually wanted you to believe was that people voted to leave the EU to prevent 80 million Turks coming to their village, bless him.




Although Vince took it to a stupid level of Village Invasion the link you posted puts into context what drove his statement at that meeting and you can't claim dear old Vince was behind The Sunday Express Article and statements made by Farage on the subject.....so not a remainer lie at all - simply more PR BS spat out by the Rexiteers and their own Project Fear Campaign.


https://www.indy100.com/article/right-wing-headlines-about-turkish-immigration-look-suspiciously-like-right-wing-headlines-about-romanian-immigration--b1PC1UDbXb

https://www.theguardian.com/media/greenslade/2016/jun/20/sunday-express-admits-12m-turks-coming-to-uk-story-was-inaccurate

döm

It was a part of the leave campaign. And just as with the 350 million to the NHS, leave groups admitted t was a lie....


https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/jul/16/michael-gove-admits-leave-was-wrong-to-fuel-immigration-fears
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DavidL

Quote from: döm on January 04, 2019, 08:32:58 am
It was a part of the leave campaign. And just as with the 350 million to the NHS, leave groups admitted t was a lie....


https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/jul/16/michael-gove-admits-leave-was-wrong-to-fuel-immigration-fears
Lies? Sure Gove and others have regrets about how the war was won, as do all victorious campaigns. Not a lie to state that if Turkey joined, the population of Turkey would have the right to enter the UK. Same with the £350m, it was a gross figure. Misleading? Yes, not sure it was a lie though.
I'm also certain that there are as many regrets on the Remain side about their own propaganda that were 'lies', including an emergency budget, wide-scale job losses and collapse of house prices.

Sometimes winning is a dirty job. Both sides played dirty...........and Leave won.

DavidL

According to The Henry Jackson Society, the UK is still a global power second only to the US.
"Brexit has had no discernible impact on the UK's fundamental ability to apply itself around the world"

The Letter R

Quote from: DavidL on January 04, 2019, 14:20:39 pm
According to The Henry Jackson Society, the UK is still a global power second only to the US.
"Brexit has had no discernible impact on the UK's fundamental ability to apply itself around the world"



I thought (b)Rexiteers didn't listen to "Experts" ? ;) ....although I have to say we haven't been a global power second only to the US for some time - in fact the real Global Power at the moment is China - hell even Apple blame them for a dip in sales.......and they just landed on the far side of the moon as well as buying up all the Ore Mines in Africa and bailing out the US Economy. The UK are well off the pace but the HJS are rather right leaning so they would obviously argue otherwise.

döm

Quote from: DavidL on January 04, 2019, 14:13:48 pm
Lies? Sure Gove and others have regrets about how the war was won, as do all victorious campaigns. Not a lie to state that if Turkey joined, the population of Turkey would have the right to enter the UK. Same with the £350m, it was a gross figure. Misleading? Yes, not sure it was a lie though.
I'm also certain that there are as many regrets on the Remain side about their own propaganda that were 'lies', including an emergency budget, wide-scale job losses and collapse of house prices.

Sometimes winning is a dirty job. Both sides played dirty...........and Leave won.



Yes Lies; maps with arrows indicating hoards of people coming from Turkey and beyond was a lie.
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döm

Quote from: DavidL on January 04, 2019, 07:12:12 am
This is rather amusing. JRM skewering Verhofstadt on the EU's ridiculous position on a hard border in Ireland:

https://youtu.be/I4w7W-rduZ8



Score draw I thought. Take it to the ECJ Jacob if you think the EU is acting unfairly towads the UK in respect of Northern Ireland.


Disingenuous from JRM too. I thought the UK was leaving the EU to protect znd control its borders.
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DavidL


döm

An Irishman, Scotsman  and Englishman walked into a pub.


The Englishman wanted to go so they all had to leave.


Saw that on Twitter and had to share!



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DavidL

Quote from: döm on January 04, 2019, 21:24:29 pm
An Irishman, Scotsman  and Englishman walked into a pub.


The Englishman wanted to go so they all had to leave.

Because the Englishman always had to buy the drinks

döm

January 04, 2019, 23:29:16 pm #2531 Last Edit: January 05, 2019, 00:15:55 am by döm
Quote from: DavidL on January 04, 2019, 23:22:41 pm
Because the Englishman always had to buy the drinks



With the money he stole from the Scotsman !!
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rufus the dawg

Quote from: DavidL on January 04, 2019, 14:13:48 pm
Lies? Sure Gove and others have regrets about how the war was won, as do all victorious campaigns. Not a lie to state that if Turkey joined, the population of Turkey would have the right to enter the UK. Same with the £350m, it was a gross figure. Misleading? Yes, not sure it was a lie though.
I'm also certain that there are as many regrets on the Remain side about their own propaganda that were 'lies', including an emergency budget, wide-scale job losses and collapse of house prices.

Sometimes winning is a dirty job. Both sides played dirty...........and Leave won.



Yes all lies.


It is more like £220 million gross or 1.5% of the UK's annual budget, Turkey were/are not part of the EU, so complete lies


You are supporting corruption when you support the referendum result.


Brexit was brought about sophistry and mythomania.


Here is a bonkers statement "By the way my best friend Lerxst went flying in early 70s, we stopped off on the moon and wrote Dark side of the Moon." Prove that I did not.


The argument that Remain lied just doubles the reason for another referendum


But I will say it again.


£72.5 Billion credit cards debt in UK.
£500 Million loss to the economy every week.
£70-100 Billion of quantitative easing since the referendum.
£2 Billion Cost of brexit preparation by Whitehall
Pound fell off a cliff
Civil service has grown by 3% all on £50,000 -£150,000 a year
House price growth has slowed or dropping in many parts of the country.


When will the facts make you think it is not worth it? You have been lied to.


Brexit is the result 40 years of Sophistry and Mythomania by the right press and a very small faction of nasty party.




Matt2112

Quote from: rufus the dawg on January 05, 2019, 10:41:41 am
Civil service has grown by 3% all on £50,000 -£150,000 a year
House price growth has slowed or dropping in many parts of the country.



The problem with these being...?

Would have thought, for instance, wages and the housing market tending toward each other is a good thing. 
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DavidL

Quote from: rufus the dawg on January 05, 2019, 10:41:41 am

Yes all lies.

Turkey were/are not part of the EU, so complete lies

Please read my post properly