Author Topic: What saved guitar rock in the 90s Grunge or Brit pop?  (Read 950 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

rufus the dawg

  • TNMS Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1574
  • i stihl love rush?
Re: What saved guitar rock in the 90s Grunge or Brit pop?
« Reply #15 on: October 19, 2018, 19:45:13 PM »

I've never heard Talk. Missed it when it came out and now I'm revisiting with Spotify and its not been released on that medium.


This is the long epic song from talk.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Ovt7mm4EYE

[size=78%]I am waiting is fab😊[/size]
[/size]
[/size]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RscNKPM9WxM[size=78%]

Nïckslïkk2112

  • TNMS Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 28373
  • Dull by day, asleep at night.
Re: What saved guitar rock in the 90s Grunge or Brit pop?
« Reply #16 on: October 19, 2018, 22:03:30 PM »

I've never heard Talk. Missed it when it came out and now I'm revisiting with Spotify and its not been released on that medium.
It has to be heard on vinyl :)
Legend in my own Mind


Matt2112

  • TNMS Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 14140
  • RISE FROM THE ASHES
    • The Fringe
Re: What saved guitar rock in the 90s Grunge or Brit pop?
« Reply #17 on: October 22, 2018, 15:25:47 PM »
Talk is an absolutely glorious album. :)
The keys to happiness

döm

  • TNMS Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 13731
Re: What saved guitar rock in the 90s Grunge or Brit pop?
« Reply #18 on: October 22, 2018, 22:53:11 PM »

This is the long epic song from talk.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Ovt7mm4EYE

[size=78%]I am waiting is fab😊[/size]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RscNKPM9WxM


Thanks Rufus, great stuff!
You can check out any time you like but you can never leave!

döm

  • TNMS Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 13731
Re: What saved guitar rock in the 90s Grunge or Brit pop?
« Reply #19 on: October 22, 2018, 22:54:55 PM »
It has to be heard on vinyl :)


I think those days are gone for me
You can check out any time you like but you can never leave!

döm

  • TNMS Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 13731
Re: What saved guitar rock in the 90s Grunge or Brit pop?
« Reply #20 on: October 22, 2018, 22:56:01 PM »
Talk is an absolutely glorious album. :)


Appetite whetted. Have to check out the whole thing
You can check out any time you like but you can never leave!

Matt2112

  • TNMS Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 14140
  • RISE FROM THE ASHES
    • The Fringe
Re: What saved guitar rock in the 90s Grunge or Brit pop?
« Reply #21 on: October 23, 2018, 12:17:02 PM »

Appetite whetted. Have to check out the whole thing


It's pretty much proggy pop-rock perfection and the production in particular is pristine!  :)
The keys to happiness

rufus the dawg

  • TNMS Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1574
  • i stihl love rush?
Re: What saved guitar rock in the 90s Grunge or Brit pop?
« Reply #22 on: October 23, 2018, 18:47:11 PM »

It's pretty much proggy pop-rock perfection and the production in particular is pristine!  :)


Yes and some of the Rabin guitar solos really hit the spot if you have a descent hifi


They shake the room. Brilliant.

The Old Dog

  • TNMS Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4622
Re: What saved guitar rock in the 90s Grunge or Brit pop?
« Reply #23 on: November 25, 2018, 11:07:12 AM »
It's quite obvious really - HEAVY METAL - like a musical Exlax  it's been keeping guitar rock going since its birth. 70s 80s 90s 00s and now HEAVY METAL is bringing the world together though LOUD GEETARS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

KERRANG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
No argument from me there Simmers though some would cite the 60s as the birth of heavy rock /progressive at al .Grunge like britpop were as all these things were just a passing fad much like punk and the new romantic rubbish before them , popular muzak is cyclical in nature and it is probably on it's way back around again doesn't make it any less crap though .

Slim

  • TNMS Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 29773
  • catch the taxi driver weeping like a wounded beast
Re: What saved guitar rock in the 90s Grunge or Brit pop?
« Reply #24 on: November 27, 2018, 09:09:45 AM »

Just being going through some of the Yes back catalogue and was thinking about this. I think their finest album is Going for The One - the majesty of Awaken and Turn of the Century is to me their most exquisite  piece. Rick and Yes at their finest.  How they could go from this to Tormato with the same line up  a year later defies belief. Rick's keyboards just jar, as does Steve's guitar. Would have been better for everyone if it had never been released.
Yes, it was a horrible disappointment. I don't agree that GTFO is their best album; I think Close To The Edge stands head and shoulders above the rest of their canon and I'd give The Yes Album a strong second place. But GFTO is an exquisite, magical record nonetheless. Tormato is limp and cringy.
Then again almost the same lineup recorded Fragile, and that's not much cop either.

rufus the dawg

  • TNMS Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1574
  • i stihl love rush?
Re: What saved guitar rock in the 90s Grunge or Brit pop?
« Reply #25 on: December 07, 2018, 22:51:30 PM »
Yes, it was a horrible disappointment. I don't agree that GTFO is their best album; I think Close To The Edge stands head and shoulders above the rest of their canon and I'd give The Yes Album a strong second place. But GFTO is an exquisite, magical record nonetheless. Tormato is limp and cringy.
Then again almost the same lineup recorded Fragile, and that's not much cop either.


Thoughts on Tales or Relayer?


Weirdly Union is better than the reviews would have you believe.


ABWH is brilliant

Matt2112

  • TNMS Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 14140
  • RISE FROM THE ASHES
    • The Fringe
Re: What saved guitar rock in the 90s Grunge or Brit pop?
« Reply #26 on: December 08, 2018, 11:56:43 AM »

Thoughts on Tales or Relayer?

Weirdly Union is better than the reviews would have you believe.

ABWH is brilliant


Agree with those last two points.


I dug out Tales a couple of months ahead of it being played almost in its entirety (and stunningly) by not-ARW Yes (with Howe etc) earlier this year.  I listened to it intently for weeks on my commute and it slowly unfurled its rewards.  It’s big and bloated, obviously, but nowhere near as impenetrable as some reviews would have you believe.  Ritual is wonderful in particular.  It takes an investment but in my opinion it’s very much worth it.


I think Relayer is fantastic.  The Gates Of Delerium is a magnificent musical “journey”.  Sound Chaser is utterly batsh!t and possibly the most “proggy” track they ever did.  To Be Over is poles apart from that, very accessible and just, well, “nice”.


The 70s albums are a real treasure trove pretty much throughout really. :)
The keys to happiness

DavidL

  • TNMS Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3340
  • Music by Lee and Lifeson, Lyrics by Peart
Re: What saved guitar rock in the 90s Grunge or Brit pop?
« Reply #27 on: December 08, 2018, 12:46:13 PM »

Agree with those last two points.


I dug out Tales a couple of months ahead of it being played almost in its entirety (and stunningly) by not-ARW Yes (with Howe etc) earlier this year.  I listened to it intently for weeks on my commute and it slowly unfurled its rewards.  It’s big and bloated, obviously, but nowhere near as impenetrable as some reviews would have you believe.  Ritual is wonderful in particular.  It takes an investment but in my opinion it’s very much worth it.


The Ancient is a load of bollocks though.......isn't it?

Matt2112

  • TNMS Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 14140
  • RISE FROM THE ASHES
    • The Fringe
Re: What saved guitar rock in the 90s Grunge or Brit pop?
« Reply #28 on: December 08, 2018, 13:02:11 PM »
The Ancient is a load of bollocks though.......isn't it?


All I’ll say is I would rank it as the least strongest track on Tales.  :)
The keys to happiness