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Re: Brexit watch
« Reply #180 on: November 07, 2016, 00:20:47 AM »
Seems like Tom Watson has put Corbyn in a headlock and made him promise to not block the triggering of article 50. Some patience these Labour supporters need at the moment.
 Shame really. With 'blocking Article 50' as Labour policy, a snap election would surely see a huge loss of seats in parliament as furious Brexiteers replace their MPs with those from UKIP.
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Re: Brexit watch
« Reply #181 on: November 07, 2016, 10:34:03 AM »
that would probably lead to a hung parliament with UKIP's tail wagging the dog

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Re: Brexit watch
« Reply #182 on: November 07, 2016, 10:39:41 AM »
That's fine but the conundrum remains - on what basis would most MPs vote to trigger article 50 other than their desire for the UK to remain in or leave the EU?


I assume they'd vote to trigger it once they knew what our negotiating stance was and what we were looking for from the new arrangement, seems sensible?

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Re: Brexit watch
« Reply #183 on: November 07, 2016, 11:06:01 AM »

I assume they'd vote to trigger it once they knew what our negotiating stance was and what we were looking for from the new arrangement, seems sensible?
But it would be pointless because what we're looking for and what we are likely to get may be very different. And what if they disagreed with that stance?
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Re: Brexit watch
« Reply #184 on: November 07, 2016, 11:52:17 AM »
Could you make it up?


India wants freer access for its people in return for a better trade deal.


I think they're messing with May's head!
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Re: Brexit watch
« Reply #185 on: November 07, 2016, 13:40:29 PM »
Could you make it up?


India wants freer access for its people in return for a better trade deal.


I think they're messing with May's head!
She definitely needs to give access to a couple of Indian waiters - to replace those taken the other week, by immigration, from David Cameron's favourite Witney restaurant  ;D

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Re: Brexit watch
« Reply #186 on: November 07, 2016, 14:41:12 PM »
Somehow I think every trade deal will have this component. It's going to take years to sort
 them out.
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Re: Brexit watch
« Reply #187 on: November 07, 2016, 14:48:25 PM »
She definitely needs to give access to a couple of Indian waiters - to replace those taken the other week, by immigration, from David Cameron's favourite Witney restaurant  ;D


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Re: Brexit watch
« Reply #188 on: November 07, 2016, 14:53:08 PM »
Somehow I think every trade deal will have this component. It's going to take years to sort
 them out.

It's deliciously ironic isn't it (as was David's story about his wife's birthday and the restaurant being closed due to an illegal immigration raid) .  To get the kind of trade deals that were promised in post-brexit land the UK will have to agree to the free movement of people on a Worldwide scale!


I suppose not being in the Single market will mean that at least those pesky Europeans won't be able to get in willy-nilly!
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Re: Brexit watch
« Reply #189 on: November 08, 2016, 09:15:29 AM »
Ah, so those red-white-and-blue British patriots who fought to “take back control” are now fighting in court to gag our sovereign British parliament. Gilbert and Sullivan – even Monty Python – couldn’t have made that up.
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Re: Brexit watch
« Reply #190 on: November 08, 2016, 09:28:39 AM »
Maybe the establishment is a good thing, protecting us from the ignorant....


http://foreignpolicy.com/2016/06/28/its-time-for-the-elites-to-rise-up-against-ignorant-masses-trump-2016-brexit/

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Re: Brexit watch
« Reply #191 on: November 08, 2016, 10:39:34 AM »
Ah, so those red-white-and-blue British patriots who fought to “take back control” are now fighting in court to gag our sovereign British parliament. Gilbert and Sullivan – even Monty Python – couldn’t have made that up.
Prof Richard Dawkins, Oxford.
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Re: Brexit watch
« Reply #192 on: November 08, 2016, 10:42:58 AM »
Maybe the establishment is a good thing, protecting us from the ignorant....


http://foreignpolicy.com/2016/06/28/its-time-for-the-elites-to-rise-up-against-ignorant-masses-trump-2016-brexit/
How we were ever given permission to breathe the same air as these beings of superior intelligence astounds me sometimes.
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Re: Brexit watch
« Reply #193 on: November 08, 2016, 13:43:33 PM »
So it looks like long term we are going to be £25 billion a year worse off (due to Brexit) as tax revenue will fall, which can only mean less for NHS, services etc etc.

I would have thought government and Sovereignty would stop us from hurting ourselves in the national interest, afterall if your child was holding a lit firework im sure you would intervene as a parent.

http://citywire.co.uk/wealth-manager/news/chancellor-faces-25bn-hole-in-public-finances-post-brexit/a966591
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Re: Brexit watch
« Reply #194 on: November 08, 2016, 13:46:18 PM »
So it looks like long term we are going to be £25 billion a year worse off (due to Brexit) as tax revenue will fall, which can only mean less for NHS, services etc etc.

I would have thought government and Sovereignty would stop us from hurting ourselves in the national interest, afterall if your child was holding a lit firework im sure you would intervene as a parent.

http://citywire.co.uk/wealth-manager/news/chancellor-faces-25bn-hole-in-public-finances-post-brexit/a966591


That's only scaremongering - you wouldn't see stuff like that in the Mail!
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