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Brexit watch

Started by Nick, October 20, 2016, 17:02:39 pm

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Nick

Thought we could keep an eye on how things are panning out post vote.


Very early days of course but not an auspicious start.
Everybody's got to evalate from the norm.

Moving Target

Mrs May get a decidedly cool reception at the EU summit.  Gets to talk for five minutes at one in the morning, during AOB.  No negotiation until Article 50 is triggered.

Nick

Everybody's got to evalate from the norm.

Slim

Disappointed to hear the favourable noises about the single market emanating from Theresa. Those who feel that the NHS was promised £350m a week in a post-Brexit Britain will certainly feel that we were promised an exit from the single market, not just the EU.

Slim

Adobe expanding its base in the UK:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/2016/10/22/adobe-says-brexit-did-not-make-us-blink-as-it-expands-uk-base/

"We have a big worldwide view and [Brexit] didn't cause anybody to have a second thought".


Moving Target

Quote from: Slim on October 23, 2016, 17:49:44 pm
Adobe expanding its base in the UK:


"We have a big worldwide view and [Brexit] didn't cause anybody to have a second thought".



Encouraging news.  I wonder how many jobs they will bring? 

NeilP

Quote from: Slim on October 23, 2016, 17:45:41 pm
Those who feel that the NHS was promised £350m a week in a post-Brexit Britain will certainly feel that we were promised an exit from the single market, not just the EU.



I don't remember seeing the second point on the bus

NeilP

Quote from: Moving Target on October 24, 2016, 14:47:26 pm

Encouraging news.  I wonder how many jobs they will bring?



several hundred I'm sure, they currently employ 507 here

Nick

The Canadian free trade deal with the EU appears to have fallen through due to Wallonia's concerns, it's going to be fun negotiating the UK deal, hopefully have something in place by 2112.
Everybody's got to evalate from the norm.

Moving Target

Nicola Horlick has joined the Lib Dems, because of their Europhile position.

DavidL

Quote from: Nick on October 24, 2016, 18:51:19 pm
The Canadian free trade deal with the EU appears to have fallen through due to Wallonia's concerns, it's going to be fun negotiating the UK deal, hopefully have something in place by 2112.
I think we may have a better chance, on our own, of negotiating a deal with Canada before 2024.

Slim

Quote from: NeilP on October 24, 2016, 17:59:52 pm

I don't remember seeing the second point on the bus


Neither do I, but I do recall seeing it affirmed unambiguously by prominent campaigners on both sides of the argument. David Cameron, Angela Leadsom, Michael Gove, Boris Johnson, George Osborne. All of them stated unambiguously that we would leave the single market following a Brexit vote, with the exception of Angela Leadsom who to be fair only described this as "almost certain".

Slim

Quote from: Nick on October 24, 2016, 18:51:19 pm
The Canadian free trade deal with the EU appears to have fallen through due to Wallonia's concerns, it's going to be fun negotiating the UK deal, hopefully have something in place by 2112.


Well the UK deal at least is not likely to be scuppered by some remote region in continental Europe, whose officials are accountable to exactly no-one in the UK, exercising a veto. A rather elegant demonstration of one reason we're better off out.

DavidL

Quote from: Slim on October 24, 2016, 23:10:05 pm
Well the UK deal at least is not likely to be scuppered by some remote region in continental Europe, whose officials are accountable to exactly no-one in the UK, exercising a veto. A rather elegant demonstration of one reason we're better off out.
Yes, what was it that was said by the Remain campaign about the superior negotiating power of a huge trading bloc such as the EU - one of their team stuck the ball in their own net on this occasion.
"Allez, les Walloons!"
:)

NeilP

I think the Wallonia barrier demonstrates how individual EU members have control over trade deals and that they are still free to make many decisions themselves. Wasn't that one of the arguments for leaving the EU, that we had lost our sovereignty?