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The Conservative Party Leadership Election of 2019

Started by Slim, May 29, 2019, 15:23:15 pm

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DavidL

Quote from: The Letter R on July 15, 2019, 12:31:28 pmSo it's OK for civil servants who have signed the official secrets act to share Government communications externally and really our Ambassador should have verbally communicated to an envoy and trusted them to accurately communicate this to others....hmmm - that's going to work well!!??
This could have been malicious intervention by another state.

Verbal communication works well and is fairly secure.

Chris Quartly

You're embarrassing yourself here with this double-down...
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DavidL

July 17, 2019, 00:40:59 am #227 Last Edit: July 17, 2019, 00:54:31 am by DavidL
Quote from: Chris Quartly on July 16, 2019, 20:57:11 pmYou're embarrassing yourself here with this double-down...
And you've spent too long in another country

https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/can-email-ever-be-secure/

Would be ambassadors can just skip to the last statement!

Chris Quartly

You think verbally communicating is either accurate or secure either? Clearly conversations have never been overheard or passed on incorrectly. Nothing is perfect, but to suggest ambassadors should verbally communicate is either ignorant, stupid, or just pigheaded... shall we go for a triple-down?
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DavidL

Quote from: Chris Quartly on July 17, 2019, 05:44:54 amYou think verbally communicating is either accurate or secure either? Clearly conversations have never been overheard or passed on incorrectly. Nothing is perfect, but to suggest ambassadors should verbally communicate is either ignorant, stupid, or just pigheaded... shall we go for a triple-down?
Why not.
What I am saying is communicating such views by a method that has been proven to be insecure is, in my opinion, stupid. Clearly that communication could possibly be used to cause mischief by many, including other states.
It was never my intention to suggest all diplomatic communication should be verbal as you seem to suggest.

Chris Quartly

Ok let's invent a new method of completely secure communication, job done! I would contend that verbal communication is less secure, prone to error in replication, especially over time... it's simply a nonsensical argument. 

What exactly are you suggesting? That uncomfortable truths are never actually left on record, or that diplomats don't actually do their job?
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Slim

Well on that last point of contention, I attach no blame to Kim Darroch myself. I would say his comments about Trump were a bit hyperbolic but let's face it, allowing for a bit of rhetorical licence, a pretty fair assessment. But it's his job to offer his opinion whether right or wrong and the fact that it has caused embarrassment is not a problem of his own making.

I don't believe for a moment that Boris' refusal to paint himself into a corner contributed to him resigning. His position had become untenable through no fault of his own and he would have gone either way.

The last of the leadership hustings has now taken place. Both candidates did very well to express themselves and actually while I was quite impressed with Hunt, I thought Boris was inspirational; impassioned, assured and eloquent. And funny.

I think most readers would agree that a banana skin of monumental proportions was needed to deny Boris the job at Number Ten, and it has not manifested itself. The media's Blame Boris game over Kim Darroch hasn't worked. His neighbours' surveillance operations for the Guardian came to nothing. No-one particularly cares what Max Hastings thinks.

And many or most of the party will already have voted by now.

Good times.

DavidL

Quote from: Slim on Yesterday at 00:50:17I would say his comments about Trump were a bit hyperbolic but let's face it, allowing for a bit of rhetorical licence, a pretty fair assessment. 
I certainly agree with that.

döm

Good times for Johnson and his followers.  Bad times ahead for the country.

And his piece de resistance last night about the kipper is complete nonsense.  The regulation he was blaming on the EU was in fact UK law as delivery to the final consumer is not in the remit of the EU.  Complete BS from the BSitter par excellence
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The Letter R

Well the shortest serving PM was what 119 days - I reckon Boris may beat that.....we shall see....

DavidL

Quote from: The Letter R on Yesterday at 13:24:01Well the shortest serving PM was what 119 days - I reckon Boris may beat that.....we shall see....
I think you could be right

Chris Quartly

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DavidL

Quote from: döm on Yesterday at 12:53:52Good times for Johnson and his followers.  Bad times ahead for the country.

And his piece de resistance last night about the kipper is complete nonsense.  The regulation he was blaming on the EU was in fact UK law as delivery to the final consumer is not in the remit of the EU.  Complete BS from the BSitter par excellence
Yes it seems that Kipper-cooker's fishy tale is a red herring - caught Boris, hook, line and sinker. Obviously Jeremy Hunt supporters.