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The Letter R

Quote from: Slim on April 09, 2019, 21:52:07 pm
I see. And when did the trial that established her guilt as a war criminal take place, please? Could you post a link, perhaps?



She knowingly aided ISIS fighters who last time I looked were terrorists - no trial needed but that's only my opinion.


You obviously have a different opinion about her,  and if you feel she is such an upstanding citizen then go out there and help her come home and while you're at it offer her a room at yours when she makes it back over here. Would be happy to join you all for a cozy cuppa once she's got herself settled chez Slim and we can have lovely talks about non-believers heads in bins and how to make suicide vests.

captainkurtz

See if Donald Tusk can crash on the couch as well...
Anger is a gift.

Slim

Quote from: captainkurtz on April 09, 2019, 22:00:14 pm
You should work for Amnesty, Slim.  ;D

Well if not wanting to live in a police state where a wave of the Home Secretary's pen is due process means you have to be in Amnesty, sign me up!
Pleased to know she'll be receiving legal aid, and I hope she'll be successful.

Slim

Quote from: The Letter R on April 10, 2019, 12:46:01 pm

She knowingly aided ISIS fighters who last time I looked were terrorists - no trial needed but that's only my opinion.



You don't actually know this. Why do you think we even have a judicial process and criminal trials for terrorism and similar crimes? Or even trivial crimes? I assume you haven't the faintest clue.

Slim

Quote from: The Letter R on April 10, 2019, 12:46:01 pm

You obviously have a different opinion about her,  and if you feel she is such an upstanding citizen then go out there and help her come home and while you're at it offer her a room at yours when she makes it back over here. Would be happy to join you all for a cozy cuppa once she's got herself settled chez Slim and we can have lovely talks about non-believers heads in bins and how to make suicide vests.

I was going to ignore this, but - seriously? This is a pretty serious issue IMO, but what I think you're telling us is that you believe in impartial justice and due judicial process for people, but - only if you'd be happy to give them a room at your own house? Have I got that right?

Come on Keith, think about it - is that rational? In all honesty it's the sort of thing my mother-in-law would have known better than to type, four years into her Alzheimer's.


The Letter R

James - in all honesty I don't give a feck about her or any others like her - there are far more worthy people in need in this Country and around the World that deserve support end of.




zoony

Quote from: The Letter R on April 16, 2019, 08:08:02 am
James - in all honesty I don't give a feck about her or any others like her - there are far more worthy people in need in this Country and around the World that deserve support end of.



Totally agree mate, disgusted with the decision to grant her legal aid, but sadly, not surprised 😕.

Matt2112

On the one hand I can understand the repugnance that such an odious piece of work can be granted legal aid.  On the same hand it's pretty stunningly hypocritical of her to suddenly discover she can make an exception to a system of medieval jurisprudence to which she unrepentantly swears absolute fealty and that stands in polar opposition to any functions of Western democracy.

On the other hand, there is no getting around the fact that technically she has a right to fight her case.  But do you know what?  That's what makes our state's way of doing things infinitely superior to hers on every conceivable level.

There's moral and legal issues here and, yes, there's an uneasy dissonance between the two - but let's not allow one aspect to encroach on the other; we should tread carefully.
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Bez

Quote from: Matt2112 on April 16, 2019, 11:33:49 am
On the one hand I can understand the repugnance that such an odious piece of work can be granted legal aid.  On the same hand it's pretty stunningly hypocritical of her to suddenly discover she can make an exception to a system of medieval jurisprudence to which she unrepentantly swears absolute fealty and that stands in polar opposition to any functions of Western democracy.

On the other hand, there is no getting around the fact that technically she has a right to fight her case.  But do you know what?  That's what makes our state's way of doing things infinitely superior to hers on every conceivable level.

There's moral and legal issues here and, yes, there's an uneasy dissonance between the two - but let's not allow one aspect to encroach on the other; we should tread carefully.


What Matt said....

The irony of leaving the UK to fight against our system and then using our system to fight against our system rejecting her is almost delicious....

At least the money is going straight to lawyers and not to her....oh, wait....
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