Started by mwoody, November 11, 2008, 21:54:08 pm
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Quote from: ianb on November 23, 2008, 12:54:59 pmI can only guess at my ex colleagues motivations for setting up 'Sawyer' which is something of a mystery saying as TS was really hard going for them - even limping along the way we were throughout 2008. But it would certainly take some time and serious attendance upturns to re-coup previous outlays.
Quote from: ianb on November 23, 2008, 12:54:59 pmHey WoodyAn all too familiar story mate and its good to compare notes on your experiences. Doing Rush is an all consuming and expensive pastime. You've got to travel a lot to get gigs (and band members!) and as you say there's a lot of specialist gear to invest in too. Then there's the major intrusion on your family life as you need to spend so much time keeping on top of the playing - both at home or in rehearsals and of course be on the road too. Then there's the endless behind the scenes admin work - networking (mostly reluctant) venues (with managers who are never available when you call) via phone and email for bookings, poster design, printing, advert design and sourcing suitable press, sending deposits, tracking ticket sales, haggling over fee/door share deals.... the list goes on and on and that's practically a full time job in itself!Its a tall order to say the least!To my mind it's something that is firmly in the realms of the professional tribute venture or for people with lots of spare time and cash to burn - certainly neither of which we had in abundance in the last line-up of TS that's for sure. With a better than usual attendance The Ferry gig last month might just have saw us break even on the years outlay (not counting the cost of all the rehearsals at Ã,Â£150 a hit!) but as it transpired we ended up well out of pocket - we're talking 4 figures here. I can only guess at my ex colleagues motivations for setting up 'Sawyer' which is something of a mystery saying as TS was really hard going for them - even limping along the way we were throughout 2008. But it would certainly take some time and serious attendance upturns to re-coup previous outlays.You're never going to make loads of dosh from trib-ing Rush either way and I don't think that is realitically what anyone does this for so it needs to be something of a labour of love - but as you say its fair to say you shouldn't bankrupt yourself either and you've got to be sensible. It was worse still for me being someone who does music to earn a crust. I was refraining from doing much more profitable (or should I just say profitable!) ventures in favour of TS. I've often 'joked' that it was comparable to someone going (and paying lots) to play golf twice a week when they should in fact be at work! Like yourself Woody - I'm still keen to do a Rush tribute but its got to be done realistically and exceptionally well. Not least to get enough Rush fans interested to make it viable. I think because Rush are so perfectionistic in what they do that the tribs need to be perfectionistic too and anything falling short of that is only of interest to the hard core Rush fans as we've all proven over the years. It needs to be top notch to get the average person buying into it and to see the sort of turnouts that other tribute bands get - Limehouse Lizzy, Whole Lotta Led etc etc....It's also fair to say that its as good as impossible to get promotors interested in a Rush tribute which I think is something 2112 have been trying to do too if I'm reading what they're saying correctly about getting management? Therefore its really hard (and expensive) to advertise and promote gigs yourself and you're always at the mercy of what (usually very little) publicity the venues provide - especially when you're miles away from your own familiar areas. We went all the way to Dartford to play to a crowd of 35 with a loss of over Ã,Â£1K - and an all time low of 25 folk at Dumfries! (Huge thanks to all who did make the effort to come along to those gigs - Lucy and all!!!).So I can only wish all the best to all the current batch of operating Rush tribs - even 'Sawyer' - as anyone who does it needs a medal for sure (and a lottery win maybe? )! I hope I can catch a gig or two.Hope you do well with your new projects mate.See you around.Ian.
Quote from: Oor Wullie on March 31, 2009, 18:55:00 pmAny new news on what we talked about Woody???
Quote from: mwoody on June 16, 2009, 21:23:06 pmJust a quick message to say watch out for fans meet in the next few days. It won't be eucon, but it will be big and it will contain lots of 'rush' and much much more..................soon
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