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Title: Alcohol Units
Post by: Bez on February 22, 2008, 15:20:21 pm
One of the things I was talking about in the pub lasy night with Pudders was the amount of alcohol we consume. I'm trying to keep an eye on it as the alcohol affects my arthritis and my gout (yes I know, start a queue to point and laugh), so this year I've been recording the number of units I consume and rather geekily graphing the results....much to Mrs Bez's amusement.

I don't consider myself to be a big drinker, in that I rarely drink alone, although I do have a healthy social life and when I do drink its usually largeish quanities.  ::) I've been a bit shocked at how many units over the recommended limits I drink. Last night was 5 pints of Stella before a gig for example which works out to be 15 units, or over 2/3rd of my weekly allowance !

I'm attaching my graphs for the year so far  - bear in mind that I was trying to have no alcohol in January after the 6th until the 8th of Feb - so there's a long flat line. A trip to a restaurant with the mother-in-law put paid to my ambition there...

If anyone wants me to record their intake I'm happy to do so, drop me a weekly PM and I'll stick the results up - purely for reasearch purposes of course  ::)

Here's the info I'm using to calculate drinks into units :

Beer, ale and stout                        Bottle (330ml)  Can (440        Pint        
Ordinary strength (3.5 - 4%)
(John Smith's, Boddington's, Guinness)       1.3 units       1.8 units       2.3 units       
Premium strength (5%)                       1.6 units       2.2 units       2.8 units       
beer (pint)                               2 units+       2.6 units+       3.4 units+
     
Cider                                       Bottle (330ml)       Can (440ml)       Pint           Litre
Ordinary strength (6%)(Dry Blackthorn,
Strongbow)                               2 units       2.6 units       3.4 units   6 units
Strong (9%+)                               3 units+       4 units+       5 units+    9 units+

Lager                                      Bottle (330ml)       Can (440ml)       Pint       
Ordinary strength (3.5 ' 4%)  
(Carling Black Label, Fosters)               1.3 units       1.8 units       2.3 units       
Premium strength (5%) (Stella Artois,
Carlsberg Export, Grolsch,
Kronenbourg 1664)                       2 units       2.2 units       3 units       
Super strength (9%+) (Tennent's Super,
Special Brew)                               3 units+       4 units+       5 units+
     
Alcopops                              Bottle (275ml)                       
Ordinary strength (5%) (Smirnoff Ice,
Bacardi Breezer, WKD, Reef)               1.4 units                       

Shots                                       Small measure (25ml)       Large measure (35ml)            
Tequila, Sambuca                       1 unit                       1.3 units            

Spirits                               Small (25ml)       Large (35ml)       Small double (50ml)  Large double (70ml)
Gin, rum, vodka & whisky               1 unit               1.4 units       2 units            2.8 units

Wine (red or white)                       Standard glass (175ml)       Large glass (250ml)       Bottle (750ml)       
                             11%      1.9 units       2.8 units       8.3 units       
                             12%      2.1 units       3 units       9 units       
                             13%      2.3 units       3.3 units       9.8 units       
                             14%      2.5 units       3.5 units       10.5 units       

Fortified wine                               Standard measure (50ml )                      
Sherry & port                               1 unit               



Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: NeilP on February 22, 2008, 15:25:42 pm
Sounds interesting and a bit of an eye opener Paul, I might take part though it's been a very wet start to the year for me and fortunately these data wont show up on your graph ;)
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Bez on February 22, 2008, 15:31:48 pm
QuoteSounds interesting and a bit of an eye opener Paul, I might take part though it's been a very wet start to the year for me and fortunately these data wont show up on your graph ;)


I'd suggest starting in March and use the rest of Feb as practice....it can be hard counting how many pints / bottles / glasses when you're on the pop !
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Slim on February 22, 2008, 15:44:08 pm
We did this thread a couple of years ago, but you may have been pissed at the time. I'll bump it; there's a formula for working out how many units you consume.
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Slim on February 22, 2008, 15:55:14 pm
OK, the site's search engine doesn't actually work these days.

Anyway you can calculate exactly how many units a drink contains from the alcohol content % and the volume (obviously).

25ml of an alcoholic beverage at 40% strength is 1 unit.

So, a 700ml bottle of 40% spirits - a typical bottle of Scotch or brandy - contains exactly 28 units. A 350ml bottle of something at 10% alcohol - a wicked strength lager, perhaps - would be 3.5 units.

I must admit I've been drinking more than the recommended 21 units per week recently.
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Dixkot on February 22, 2008, 16:03:29 pm

There is a foolproof formula to work out units of alcohol, as demonstrated by Slim above.

% abv multiplied by volume in ml divide by 1000 = Units of alcohol
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Slim on February 22, 2008, 17:06:55 pm
Wahey - found it

http://www.t-n-m-s.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1103493108/0
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on February 22, 2008, 19:12:42 pm
Might have a go at this, could find I have to up the alcohol intake ;D
But I rather doubt it :(
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Gary L. Grape on February 22, 2008, 19:38:21 pm
Hmm...let me think...I think my graph would have been rather boring for the last couple of years... ::) :P

But at least it's easy to keep track... ;D
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Slim on February 22, 2008, 19:59:02 pm
QuoteDo people tend to take a risk when driving as well?


To drive is to take a risk.

People tend to see in black & white when it comes to driving and alcohol, but a careful short drive after a couple of drinks might easily be as safe as a long drive when you're a little tired, or a Sunday afternoon spent caning a sports car when sober.
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: zoony on February 22, 2008, 23:09:13 pm
I drink very little, and the only time my graph would go up a bit is when i meet up with NeilP  ;).
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: NeilP on February 22, 2008, 23:10:58 pm
QuoteI drink very little, and the only time my graph would go up a bit is when i meet up with NeilP  ;).


.. and cholesterol too :-[
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Analog RH on February 29, 2008, 08:13:46 am

I've just had a break from the drink. 2 weeks. The penny dropped that it was affecting my mood and decision making. I was drinking 6 nights a week. Combined with some dark times and frequent very late nights..... it weren't a good combination. I didn't really figure all this out until I stopped, after which time I had pretty extreme withdrawal and also clarity of thought.

I'll probably be back on it again shortly, but in moderation. Every now and then, Friday nights maybe. I've told pretty much everybody close to me about this, so if / when I do drink again they can give me the heads up if it becomes a problem (i.e. if I don't notice myself).

Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Andrew_Haldane on February 29, 2008, 09:49:05 am
Cider                                      Bottle (330ml)      Can (440ml)      Pint          Litre
Ordinary strength (6%)(Dry Blackthorn,
Strongbow)                              2 units      2.6 units      3.4 units   6 units
Strong (9%+)                              3 units+      4 units+      5 units+    9 units+


Jeeez, I had no idea Strongbow had such a high alcoholic content my son drinks it whenever he goes to a party maybe once every couple of months)  He's a big lad but still not 16 yet and never has come back drunk (yet) but I shall be having a chat with him about it now. Thanks Bez!
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Andrew_Haldane on February 29, 2008, 09:53:49 am
I'm trying to keep an eye on it as the alcohol affects my arthritis and my gout (yes I know, start a queue to point and laugh),

Gout is nothing to laugh about I should know I used to suffer terribly from it years ago. I do have poor circulation which does affect it. How about your cholesterol Bez?
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: dwtty on February 29, 2008, 10:01:06 am
Cider's not called 'gutrot' for nothing. it's possibly one of the worse alcholic drinks in the world for it's physical effects.

i haven't done a chart, in the last 2 weeks i have drunk, 4 units of beer, 2 units of vodka,2 units of wine in total.
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Bez on February 29, 2008, 10:09:10 am
QuoteI'm trying to keep an eye on it as the alcohol affects my arthritis and my gout (yes I know, start a queue to point and laugh),

Gout is nothing to laugh about I should know I used to suffer terribly from it years ago. I do have poor circulation which does affect it. How about your cholesterol Bez?


Cholesterol is fine mate - surprising for a big fecker like me I know, so is my blood pressure and heart etc

I take Alopurinol for the gout - suspresses the production of uric acid which causes the pain. Only problem with that is that I have to take it until the end of my days. Along with the diclofenac for the osteoarthritis I feel like I rattle sometimes... :-/
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Pudders on February 29, 2008, 10:20:19 am
So...I'm up for a month of close 'unit' scrutiny as of tomorrow - any one else want to play?
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Andrew_Haldane on February 29, 2008, 10:28:25 am
Quote

Cholesterol is fine mate - surprising for a big fecker like me I know, so is my blood pressure and heart etc

I take Alopurinol for the gout - suspresses the production of uric acid which causes the pain. Only problem with that is that I have to take it until the end of my days. Along with the diclofenac for the osteoarthritis I feel like I rattle sometimes... :-/



I need to get serious about lowering mine (cholesterol) and getting the weight down.  :-[ :( I've been telling myself for years that it wasn't a problem and I could do it whenever I wanted but life has taken over. I need to do something, now!

So you're egg laying days are well and truly over then..hang on a minute Dic-lo-fenac isn't that a form of Viagra? ;D
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: dwtty on February 29, 2008, 10:31:59 am
Quote


I need to get serious about lowering mine (cholesterol) and getting the weight down.  :-[ :( I've been telling myself for years that it wasn't a problem and I could do it whenever I wanted but life has taken over. I need to do something, now!

So you're egg laying days are well and truly over then..hang on a minute Dic-lo-fenac isn't that a form of Viagra? ;D



does it matter if it is?? Bez hardly sounds fit for a 10 hour shag session..what's he got now..? he's in his 40's, cholestrol, fat bastard, gout, arthritis...............

;)
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Bez on February 29, 2008, 10:47:36 am
Quote

..hang on a minute Dic-lo-fenac isn't that a form of Viagra? ;D


if only mate....strong anit-inflamatory / pain killer, prescription only and not very good for the stomach if taken long term... :-/
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Bez on February 29, 2008, 10:48:19 am
Quote


does it matter if it is?? Bez hardly sounds fit for a 10 hour shag session..what's he got now..? he's in his 40's, cholestrol, fat b@st@rd, gout, arthritis...............

;)


Oi, get your facts straight....my chollesterol is fine... ::)
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Andrew_Haldane on February 29, 2008, 10:56:34 am
Quote

if only mate....strong anit-inflamatory / pain killer, prescription only and not very good for the stomach if taken long term... :-/


I know, it was an "I'll get me coat" type joke ...Dic(k)-lo(w)-fenac  Tsk, I dunno ::)

Seriously though, have you tried to find any herbal/alternative therapies ? Might be worth a look at :-/
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: dwtty on February 29, 2008, 14:22:07 pm
Quote

Oi, get your facts straight....my chollesterol is fine... ::)


oh sorry, i do apologise...... ::) ;)
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Fishy on February 29, 2008, 14:33:56 pm
well being on call all week my unit intake has been zero.. you might see a bit of a steep rise on the fishometer  tuesday night...
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Graham_Thomas on February 29, 2008, 18:29:47 pm
Quote
I've just had a break from the drink. 2 weeks. The penny dropped that it was affecting my mood and decision making. I was drinking 6 nights a week. Combined with some dark times and frequent very late nights..... it weren't a good combination. I didn't really figure all this out until I stopped, after which time I had pretty extreme withdrawal and also clarity of thought.

I'll probably be back on it again shortly, but in moderation. Every now and then, Friday nights maybe. I've told pretty much everybody close to me about this, so if / when I do drink again they can give me the heads up if it becomes a problem (i.e. if I don't notice myself).



Did you lose any weight over the two weeks? I need to lose a significant amount and I'm thinking cutting down and more exercise would do it.  :)
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Slim on February 29, 2008, 19:29:13 pm
QuoteSo...I'm up for a month of close 'unit' scrutiny as of tomorrow - any one else want to play?


Get the webcam out, mate - me and the missus will have our rubber gear on.
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Fuzzface on February 29, 2008, 20:28:31 pm
Quote

Get the webcam out, mate - me and the missus will have our rubber gear on.


LMAO!!! ;D

Makes me think of when I interviewed a guy that applied for a job a few years ago......I knew I'd seen the guy before, but I couldn't figure out where,,,,,

,,,,,halfway through the interview it came to me:

I'd seen him and his missus on TV.......they were on a fetish TV-show.....(don't ask why I watched it)......featuring them both in rubber suits......him in handcuffs, and her whipping the living daylights out of him..... ::)

I honestly don't remember anything else from that interview ;D ;D

Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Tom Garrett on February 29, 2008, 20:38:29 pm
Quote

LMAO!!! ;D

Makes me think of when I interviewed a guy that applied for a job a few years ago......I knew I'd seen the guy before, but I couldn't figure out where,,,,,

,,,,,halfway through the interview it came to me:

I'd seen him and his missus on TV.......they were on a fetish TV-show.....(don't ask why I watched it)......featuring them both in rubber suits......him in handcuffs, and her whipping the living daylights out of him..... ::)

I honestly don't remember anything else from that interview ;D ;D


Did he get the Job? ;D
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Fuzzface on February 29, 2008, 20:43:14 pm
Quote
Did he get the Job? ;D


eeerr......no! ;D

I asked my collegues if they wanted him as a workmate....

[size=72]NOOOOO!!!!!![/size]


;D

I suggested that he could perform in his rubber suit at our company parties, but they didn't seem up for that......LMAO!!!

;D
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Pudders on February 29, 2008, 22:58:49 pm
Quote

Get the webcam out, mate - me and the missus will have our rubber gear on.


:-* ;D ;)
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Bez on March 02, 2008, 23:00:39 pm
Quote

I've got boxes of that for recent op and from my section. Bloody awful stuff, makes me really wonky! ;D


I'm allowed to take extra because I'm a big fecker....allthough I try and keep below my prescribed dose...I do worry about the long term effect.

My final units total for February was 169.8, more than double the January total !
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: NeilP on March 03, 2008, 00:35:58 am
I've started counting this month - just the 2 units today.... should balance the bucketful from yesterday :-/
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Pudders on March 03, 2008, 07:51:24 am
It's amazing how it all adds up! I would say I have had a fairly restrained weekend - 3 pints of bitter and a couple of glasses of wine on Saturday - 2 pints and 1 glass of wine yesterday.....yet that all adds up to almost 18 units.

Certainly makes you think!
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Neillwith2Ls on March 03, 2008, 08:39:39 am
OK, I'm going to give this a go too. Haven't had a chance to calculate what units I've done yet, but I'll scribble down what I've had so far when I get to work. Then I'll have a look at the units.

Bad week to start as I'm out every night until next Sunday...
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: jarvo on March 03, 2008, 09:24:32 am
Thank god for the Alopurinol!
I didnt know i had gout until i had an attack one night.

The pain was as if someone was drilling into my skull........ Not good.

In darent count my units per month i know it wouldnt be good reading!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Dixkot on March 03, 2008, 16:47:58 pm


Have a read at this (http://news.scotsman.com/alcoholandbingedrinking/Safe-drinking-limits-a-guess.3472701.jp)
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Jonners on March 03, 2008, 17:22:01 pm
Mrs M enquired lat night as to wear the 2 cases of Chilean Cabernet Sauvignon had gone that she bought on Feb 20th.

Im starting to think I may have a problem, as I dont recall anyone coming round for dinner recently, and mrs M does not drink!

How many units in a bottle of red, abv 14%?
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Bez on March 03, 2008, 17:24:26 pm
QuoteMrs M enquired lat night as to wear the 2 cases of Chilean Cabernet Sauvignon had gone that she bought on Feb 20th.

Im starting to think I may have a problem, as I dont recall anyone coming round for dinner recently, and mrs M does not drink!

How many units in a bottle of red, abv 14%?


10.5 !
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: NeilP on March 03, 2008, 17:24:45 pm
That'll be 10.5 units per 750ml bottle
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Jonners on March 03, 2008, 17:27:31 pm
Right, so since Feb 20th I have had a minimum of 126 units of alchohol, not taking into account going out, beers after golf, a large box of chocolate liquers,  and the imfamous "wetting the babies" head day last weekend

Who said fatherhood changes you!
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: NeilP on March 03, 2008, 17:31:18 pm
QuoteRight, so since Feb 20th I have had a minimum of 126 units of alchohol, not taking into account going out, beers after golf, a large box of chocolate liquers,  and the imfamous "wetting the babies" head day last weekend

Who said fatherhood changes you!


Good lad!
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Jonners on March 03, 2008, 17:34:12 pm
I had assumed that my nose resembling a raddish was simply winter weathering.

Now Im starting to wonder.....
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: NeilP on March 03, 2008, 17:42:48 pm
QuoteI had assumed that my nose resembling a raddish was simply winter weathering.

Now Im starting to wonder.....


how bad is it?

(http://www.chartattack.com/pics/2006/11/10-neilpeart.jpg)
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Dixkot on March 03, 2008, 18:05:16 pm
Quote

how bad is it?

(http://www.chartattack.com/pics/2006/11/10-neilpeart.jpg)



or
(http://chello.images.infostradasports.com/images/lib/news/large/PRO_34212_AlexFerguson.jpg)
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: NeilP on March 03, 2008, 18:11:23 pm
(http://www.netstate.com/states/peop/people/images/pa_wcf.jpg)
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Jonners on March 04, 2008, 08:51:18 am
Quote

how bad is it?

(http://www.chartattack.com/pics/2006/11/10-neilpeart.jpg)


has he got a cauliflower ear?
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Fishy on March 04, 2008, 09:59:48 am
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Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Andrew_Haldane on March 04, 2008, 10:04:17 am
Quote

Have a read at this (http://news.scotsman.com/alcoholandbingedrinking/Safe-drinking-limits-a-guess.3472701.jp)


Very interesting, but you can see why the medical profession would not rush to put out this kind of data.


Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Pudders on March 04, 2008, 10:04:39 am
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Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: pdw1 on March 04, 2008, 12:16:44 pm
Quote(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/c/cb/Topic_(chocolate_bar).jpg/180px-Topic_(chocolate_bar).jpg)


They wont help!  Eating chocolate istead of drinking will only make you fatter  ;)

Patrick
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Pudders on March 04, 2008, 12:47:33 pm
Quote

They wont help!  Eating chocolate istead of drinking will only make you fatter  ;)

Patrick


Damn, rumbled! ;D ;)
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: dwtty on March 04, 2008, 15:50:53 pm
how many units in a bottle of vodka? i may just consume what i have done in the last 6 months in one single sitting tonight!
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Bez on March 04, 2008, 16:29:28 pm
Quotehow many units in a bottle of vodka? i may just consume what i have done in the last 6 months in one single sitting tonight!


depends on the size of the bottle....  ::)  25ml is 1 unit....
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: dwtty on March 04, 2008, 17:26:19 pm
Quote

depends on the size of the bottle....  ::)  25ml is 1 unit....



oohh...my graph wil be through the sky!!!  ::)
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Jonners on March 04, 2008, 17:28:50 pm
Remember the Welcon fiasco dear, when ST Johns Ambulance were pumping your stomach after a handful of winegums and a bitter shandy!

be careful please
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Tom Garrett on March 04, 2008, 22:36:56 pm
Quote

depends on the size of the bottle....
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: graham1970 on March 05, 2008, 09:11:24 am
QuoteDo people tend to take a risk when driving as well? Only I'm very much if I drink I don't drive but my days of partying hard are very much over, so I tend to be a designated driver. I get tipsy but not very often and when I do I prefer to drink stuff that is worth the hangover, so now I tend to stick to champagne or whisky.


For those of you who think you can gues your alcohol units in relation to driving please don't do this - if you need to think about then you should get a taxi.

I have seen police brew rooms empty at the shout for a tip off of a suspected drink driver about to leave a bar.

You can usually see the ones who try and guess their units before driving - they are the ones having to get the bus to and from work.
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Pudders on March 05, 2008, 11:49:47 am
Quote

I have seen police brew rooms empty at the shout for a tip off of a suspected drink driver about to leave a bar.



Are they seriously interested in that kind of information? I live opposite a Club and get thoroughly hacked off at the state some of these guys stagger out in and then get in the car (usually parked on the unpoliced double yellow) and drive off.
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Bez on March 05, 2008, 19:19:20 pm
Off to the pub tonight "first Wednesday of the month regular piss-up" My chart will go from zero to somewhere around the 18 - 21 mark  :-/
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Dixkot on March 05, 2008, 19:27:10 pm
Quote

Are they seriously interested in that kind of information? I live opposite a Club and get thoroughly hacked off at the state some of these guys stagger out in and then get in the car (usually parked on the unpoliced double yellow) and drive off.


Absolutely.

Not only do most police officers abhor drunk drivers (we see at close hand the devastation they cause) it is also a shooty in of a police report (pro-forma) & a pat on the back from the gaffers. ;D
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: NeilP on March 05, 2008, 19:31:20 pm
Since I've been counting them (units) this week, I've tended to reign in somewhat from my normal consumption - some type of Hawthorne effect?

I doubt it will last tbbh.
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Pudders on March 05, 2008, 19:43:02 pm
QuoteSince I've been counting them (units) this week, I've tended to reign in somewhat from my normal consumption - some type of Hawthorne effect?

I doubt it will last tbbh.


Same here - though it could potentially go pear shaped If I decide to pop out for "a couple" in  a moment ::)
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Slim on March 05, 2008, 20:00:47 pm
Quote

depends on the size of the bottle....  ::)  25ml is 1 unit....


That would be for 40% strength vodka, but some is a bit weaker (or stronger)
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Analog RH on March 06, 2008, 10:20:21 am

Still at zero here.  ;D
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Bez on March 06, 2008, 10:32:38 am
Quote
Still at zero here.  ;D


I kept my consumption down to six pints of Stella last night, enough to make me a bit woozy thsi morning and rack up 18 units...I'm out on Friday night at a gig, playing golf Sat AM, rugby Saturday PM and then we're out for dinner with friends in the evening. It seems that its a bit like buses at the moment...
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Pudders on March 06, 2008, 10:34:54 am
Quote

Same here - though it could potentially go pear shaped If I decide to pop out for "a couple" in  a moment ::)


I didn't, had a nice cup of tea instead..... :)
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Fishy on March 06, 2008, 10:37:59 am
after a week and a bit off it.. once my on call finished on Tuesday its back to business...

polished of a nice bottle of red then got stuck into a couple of JDs with ice...

and feeling fine  :)
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Norwegian on March 06, 2008, 11:27:16 am
As part of my "new life :P" (going regularely to the gym/eat healthy etc) I haven
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Neph on March 06, 2008, 11:43:50 am
Pre-Christmas I was quite often hitting 100 units a week. That usually consisted of a bottle of wine and four or so bottles of beer a night and a large quantity of gin over the week. I was probably killing myself with my alcohol consumption. Now I'm at a far more healthy zero units a week. I certainly don't miss the drink and I'll certainly have a few at some time or other, but I really don't want to go back to how I was. In the process of abstaining from the dreaded drink I've lost 1 and a half stones in weight. :)
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Analog RH on March 06, 2008, 11:49:24 am
QuotePre-Christmas I was quite often hitting 100 units a week. That usually consisted of a bottle of wine and four or so bottles of beer a night and a large quantity of gin over the week. I was probably killing myself with my alcohol consumption. Now I'm at a far more healthy zero units a week. I certainly don't miss the drink and I'll certainly have a few at some time or other, but I really don't want to go back to how I was. In the process of abstaining from the dreaded drink I've lost 1 and a half stones in weight. :)


Change "pre-Christmas" to "pre-3 weeks ago and for the last 5 years", and "gin" to "whiskey", and I could have written that......
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: dwtty on March 06, 2008, 12:22:05 pm
it's quite an eye opener to read how much people just quietly drink in their own homes. My ex was the same, often 8,9 pints of cider every night at home. This was nothing new, he always drunk around that amount, some nights less and sometimes nothing at all, but the usual was 2 flagons a night.
When i nicely told him i thought this was getting in the way a bit, he politely told me it was none of my business. Fine. we are now divorced.
But i just could not drink that much! i'd be dead. How do people do it?! do your partners say anything - cos i know women do it too?
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Jonners on March 06, 2008, 12:35:41 pm
Body mass/size can often help, which is why you get smashed on a Beef and Ale pie!
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Fishy on March 06, 2008, 12:51:23 pm
we keep trying the no drink during the week stuff..but you come home stressed out yer box for one reason or another and wham.. glass of wine/beer with dinner then another couple etc etc... very difficult...
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Ron_Hill on March 06, 2008, 14:36:13 pm
I've definitely been hitting the drink a little harder than normal of late but it will pass. I take phases of it and then go largely without for ages with no conscious choice of switching habit. The urge and interest just waxes and wanes. Averaging a beer or three a day and a bottle or two of red 2 out of seven evenings i'd say. Can't eat a good steak though without a bottle of red though. That would be just rude. :)
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Neph on March 06, 2008, 14:39:37 pm
Quote

Change "pre-Christmas" to "pre-3 weeks ago and for the last 5 years", and "gin" to "whiskey", and I could have written that......

Well now we can both join the Temperance Society together. I hear it's two memberships for the price of one this month.
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Neph on March 06, 2008, 14:45:58 pm
Quotedo your partners say anything - cos i know women do it too?


My wife would often mention my ever increasing alcohol consumption to me. It did help, however, that I never really drank in front of our children nor missed a days work through alcohol.
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: dwtty on March 06, 2008, 15:41:59 pm
Quote

My wife would often mention my ever increasing alcohol consumption to me. It did help, however, that I never really drank in front of our children nor missed a days work through alcohol.


I used to hate it, absolutely cos he would get out of his head annoyingly drunk and there is nothing more annoying than a drunk when you are sober.
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Fishy on March 06, 2008, 15:55:40 pm
Quote

and there is nothing more annoying than a drunk when you are sober.


yep....
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Norwegian on March 06, 2008, 16:32:39 pm
Quotewe keep trying the no drink during the week stuff..but you come home stressed out yer box for one reason or another and wham.. glass of wine/beer with dinner then another couple etc etc... very difficult...

that is when some people go to the gym....
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Analog RH on March 07, 2008, 17:49:25 pm
Quote
Well now we can both join the Temperance Society together. I hear it's two memberships for the price of one this month.


;D


QuoteBut i just could not drink that much! i'd be dead. How do people do it?! do your partners say anything - cos i know women do it too?


Its actually quite easy to get to the stage where you drink loads. As my tolerance for it went up, I needed more and more to get pissed. And that's why I drank - to get pissed, to blot out the woes of the day.

Towards the end it was 8 cans of stella and several Jack Daniels a night - five or six nights a week. Ironically the JD sobered me up, got rid of any hangover, and helped me stay up longer. One night over Christmas I had a big Stella / JD sesh and was still up at 10 the next morning. I had a sausage sandwich for breakfast, then slept through to 5pm, waking up in time to start all over again.

So I was downing as much JD as I could to counteract the great many Stellas (or wine) I had consumed during the early part of the evening. In retrospect the outcome was that I would get about 3 hours kip a night for two or three days, then catch up with a 12 hour "pussy sleep". I was constantly on a rollercoaster: when I was drunk I could turn from the happiest, rockingest guy in the world into a depressed, aggressive, antagonistic drunk within seconds. This was manifested in several arguments I caused on MSN late at night, often with Fuzzface and Zedskin (sorry you two...
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Andrew_Haldane on March 07, 2008, 18:55:39 pm
Quote

;D



Its actually quite easy to get to the stage where you drink loads. As my tolerance for it went up, I needed more and more to get pissed. And that's why I drank - to get pissed, to blot out the woes of the day.

Towards the end it was 8 cans of stella and several Jack Daniels a night - five or six nights a week. Ironically the JD sobered me up, got rid of any hangover, and helped me stay up longer. One night over Christmas I had a big Stella / JD sesh and was still up at 10 the next morning. I had a sausage sandwich for breakfast, then slept through to 5pm, waking up in time to start all over again.

So I was downing as much JD as I could to counteract the great many Stellas (or wine) I had consumed during the early part of the evening. In retrospect the outcome was that I would get about 3 hours kip a night for two or three days, then catch up with a 12 hour "pussy sleep". I was constantly on a rollercoaster: when I was drunk I could turn from the happiest, rockingest guy in the world into a depressed, aggressive, antagonistic drunk within seconds. This was manifested in several arguments I caused on MSN late at night, often with Fuzzface and Zedskin (sorry you two...  :'(). Heavy drinking made me jealous, paranoid, and many other things in between.

I didn't think it was affecting me during the day. I always viewed myself as a work hard / play hard kinda guy. But again in retrospect I was making poor decisions at work and my attention and professionalism was being affected by my hangover. I used to say my kids were irritating me at the weekend..... well its hardly surprising when you've had almost no sleep and are rancidly hungover. Since I stopped drinking I have enjoyed my children so much more.

I cannot say that I will not drink again. But with each day that passes I find myself being less arsed about it. I will admit to having had a mini-session in recent days: 6 bottles of Grolsch over a 7 hour period. It was too easy. I haven't had any since.

I do find myself prevariacting between trying to establish a new identity without the drink, or trying desperately to still be my old self but without the booze. The idea of some of the forthcoming TNMS meets without drink is a bit scary, particularly Galway. Everyone will be on it. The word "carnage" has been bandied around for weeks. Part of me thinks I can safely drink that weekend, get back into the mix, then sober up on the plane home and back to temperance. Part of me thinks I am kidding myself. Part of me is concerned at being thought of as a pussy, part of me thinks anyone who thinks of me that way isn't a true friend.

So its a whole caboodle of feelings and emotions and thoughts since I stopped. It will all play out in its own time I guess.

Didn't really want to make this post, but in some ways its quite therapeutic.

Whatever.


Brave post, Andy. Respect to you!
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Gary L. Grape on March 07, 2008, 19:11:09 pm
Rock on, Analog! :D Respect!! 8-)
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Slim on March 07, 2008, 19:23:18 pm
Quoteit's quite an eye opener to read how much people just quietly drink in their own homes. My ex was the same, often 8,9 pints of cider every night at home. This was nothing new, he always drunk around that amount, some nights less and sometimes nothing at all, but the usual was 2 flagons a night.
When i nicely told him i thought this was getting in the way a bit, he politely told me it was none of my business.


8 or 9 pints of cider in an evening! Jeez.  I can't sleep well if I drink more than two or three bottles of beer - it just makes me feel saturated and need to pee.
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Slim on March 07, 2008, 19:37:45 pm
Andy I remember saying to you a couple of years ago that you were overdoing the sauce, but your post still came as a bit of a surprise!

My Dad was an alcoholic and never wanted to face his problem a single time, so I only have respect for you for the way you're facing up to yours. That's not to say you're an alcoholic of course, and I sincerely hope you aren't. Unfortunately for those who are, the occasional drink or session isn't really an option.

I read Eric Clapton's autobiography a few weeks ago, and it's actually quite sad to read about how booze controlled his life. After coming off it, he was really envious of people who could have a few drinks in a pub, and one night he stopped at a bar and had a single beer. After this, he told himself he could control it - keep his intake of alcohol down to sensible levels - and he did. The trouble was, his whole waking life was revolving round those two or three drinks a day, to the point where he'd actually go to bed in the afternoon to pass the time until the evening until he could have his drink.
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Tom Garrett on March 07, 2008, 21:25:43 pm
Great post Andy, don't worry about Galway, quite a few people won't be drinking and there will be no presure  to do so. 8-)It's easy to have a good time with a little or none, it's always the company that makes an event. 8-)
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: snodes on March 07, 2008, 22:32:30 pm
Andy - great post, thanks for writing it. . I similarly have found it just too easy to drink every day, staying up late basically just to drink and found myself getting irritated with my family off the back of it. It got to the point where I could make 6 cans of lager disappear in a few hours, every other day, that I thought - enough's enough so I've cut down a lot. For me that's about introducing an "I don't drink on my own in the house" rule, and I'm enjoying the 1 or 2 (tops) nights where I go out to the football or to the pub and have a couple of beers Seems to be working pretty well - hell it's friday night and I've not had a drop!! Good thing is, I don't miss it.
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Gman on March 07, 2008, 23:05:33 pm
Quote

;D



Its actually quite easy to get to the stage where you drink loads. As my tolerance for it went up, I needed more and more to get pissed. And that's why I drank - to get pissed, to blot out the woes of the day.

Towards the end it was 8 cans of stella and several Jack Daniels a night - five or six nights a week. Ironically the JD sobered me up, got rid of any hangover, and helped me stay up longer. One night over Christmas I had a big Stella / JD sesh and was still up at 10 the next morning. I had a sausage sandwich for breakfast, then slept through to 5pm, waking up in time to start all over again.

So I was downing as much JD as I could to counteract the great many Stellas (or wine) I had consumed during the early part of the evening. In retrospect the outcome was that I would get about 3 hours kip a night for two or three days, then catch up with a 12 hour "pussy sleep". I was constantly on a rollercoaster: when I was drunk I could turn from the happiest, rockingest guy in the world into a depressed, aggressive, antagonistic drunk within seconds. This was manifested in several arguments I caused on MSN late at night, often with Fuzzface and Zedskin (sorry you two...
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on March 07, 2008, 23:52:54 pm
feck all this serious shit.

I've got through 32 units in the week, which is a tad more than I thought, but it's been 14% wine and 6.5% beer.

I feel much more like twatting my family when I'm stone cold sober.
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Summerland on March 08, 2008, 00:15:56 am
Andy, great post and kudos for putting all that out here.

The things you said about the relationship with booze is interesting.

I reached the stage some time ago where I recognised that booze had overtaken the social aspect of going out. I also realised that I wasn't happy that this was the case.

I've been going through a real hard time over the past few weeks and I thought that I'd be better off not drinking. I'm glad I decided so, as otherwise it would probably have made a diificult time even more unpleasant for me and those around me. Drinking on a downer is not such a good idea.  :(

If drinking accompanies a good time, that's great. If drinking is the "good time", I think I'll give it a miss.

G  
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Pudders on March 08, 2008, 00:29:24 am
Well, my first seven days of watching the units draws to a close and.......despite three dry days on the spin in the middle of the week I've still managed to rack up 34 units. I'm surprised at that - if only because I thought I was doing pretty well - compared to what I 'normally' quaff :-/

Food for thought.....

I have to admit to being scared stiff that I'll end up an alcoholic, but the fear has always (or so I thought) been a positive thing, kept me on the (slightly wobbly) straight and narrow as it were! My brother was an alcoholic, and it killed him in the end. When a man is found dead in his bed having choked on his own vomit it can make you think - when that man is your brother, well, it makes you think a little more.

Saying that, it makes me wonder why I drink at all........
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Bez on March 08, 2008, 07:28:23 am
FFS, I only started this thread as a bit of fun....I didn't want to start the "TNMS Temperance Society for Sad Pussies..."

::) ;)

Unit count for the week was 27.9, and that's only drinking on 2 days...I fear for today.
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Analog RH on March 08, 2008, 07:50:00 am
Quote"TNMS Temperance Society for Sad Pussies..."



Its the new Shed, only much more scary. Mind you, any society with Neph and me at the helm is gonna be frightening.......  ;D
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Beebop on March 08, 2008, 09:27:50 am
Quote

your comments about being branded a pussy if you give up most definately resonate with me.


I went through the stage of all the peer pressure crap but in the end realised I was stronger for not drinking.I went 7 years without alcohol  but started drinking again in moderate amounts last year.I respect you for having the baws to give up and admitting you had a problem,hopefully you will find a healthy relationship with drink.
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: NeilP on March 08, 2008, 09:46:51 am
First week of counting and I didn't have a dry day.
Just the 3 bottles of wine and a pint of bitter is is then - 34 units.

I have no plans to stop either unless advised by a doctor.
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Gman on March 08, 2008, 10:34:07 am
QuoteWell, my first seven days of watching the units draws to a close and.......despite three dry days on the spin in the middle of the week I've still managed to rack up 34 units. I'm surprised at that - if only because I thought I was doing pretty well - compared to what I 'normally' quaff :-/

Food for thought.....

I have to admit to being scared stiff that I'll end up an alcoholic, but the fear has always (or so I thought) been a positive thing, kept me on the (slightly wobbly) straight and narrow as it were! My brother was an alcoholic, and it killed him in the end. When a man is found dead in his bed having choked on his own vomit it can make you think - when that man is your brother, well, it makes you think a little more.

Saying that, it makes me wonder why I drink at all........


Pudders,

Let me assure you as someone who has worked in this field for many, many years, there is no genetic factor that pre-disposes you will become an alcoholic like your sibling.

It's a myth. There are only problem drinkers, and only you can decide whether your drinking is a problem and how much of a problem it is....and then you can take steps to remedy this.

Problem drinking happens in two ways-
1. A person's drinking slowly accelerates through time, and this can begin modestly, and gradually, and the person isn't aware that their intake is increasing, because alcohol builds up a tolerance in the body. To remedy this, you simply have to become aware of the amount you're drinking, and have some other things to do and think about when you feel the urge. In other words break the pattern of drinking

2. A person's drinking increases because of a traumatic event, like bereavement, and this results in an individual drinking more as a coping strategy. This is more to do with trying to make sense of the event, and using alcohol as a crutch. Again through time most people deal with this short term drinking increase perfectly well.

So, there's nothing wrong with you, no genetic component that marks you as a problem drinker.

Be Cool

Gman
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Gman on March 08, 2008, 10:35:48 am
Quotefeck all this serious sh!t.

I've got through 32 units in the week, which is a tad more than I thought, but it's been 14% wine and 6.5% beer.

I feel much more like twatting my family when I'm stone cold sober.


Big Man,

Keep the bevvying going and ditch the family then. That'll then give you a perfect excuse to drink more.....cool ;)

Gman
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Gary L. Grape on March 08, 2008, 11:29:26 am
QuoteLet me assure you as someone who has worked in this field for many, many years, there is no genetic factor that pre-disposes you will become an alcoholic like your sibling.

It's a myth. There are only problem drinkers, and only you can decide whether your drinking is a problem and how much of a problem it is....and then you can take steps to remedy this.

I've been thinking a lot about this after I quit drinking, and I think there might be kind of a genetic side to it, but not really a gene that decides whether you're an alcoholic or not. Rather that you tend to think alike, and handle problems in the same way as your relatives did - or do.

Did that make any sense whatsoever...? ::)
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: TerrBerr on March 08, 2008, 15:31:03 pm
Had a heavy night on the lash last night with my best mate from work. 21 units in one evening. I could feel myself getting drunk after 1.5 pints (Staropramen is such nice lager). We reached a threshold at three pints where we had a serious discussion about whether to sit a round out with a soft drink, but we decided not to.

That's the first night I've been out drinking since last Saturday. When I have a big night it usually ends up with that many units down. More if it's a TNMS all-dayer. I guess that makes me officially a binge drinker?  :-/
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: BaldiePete on March 08, 2008, 17:36:01 pm
QuoteHad a heavy night on the lash last night with my best mate from work. 21 units in one evening. I could feel myself getting drunk after 1.5 pints (Staropramen is such nice lager). We reached a threshold at three pints where we had a serious discussion about whether to sit a round out with a soft drink, but we decided not to.

That's the first night I've been out drinking since last Saturday. When I have a big night it usually ends up with that many units down. More if it's a TNMS all-dayer. I guess that makes me officially a binge drinker?  :-/



That depends on how often you you binge  ;)
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Gman on March 08, 2008, 18:15:00 pm
Quote
I've been thinking a lot about this after I quit drinking, and I think there might be kind of a genetic side to it, but not really a gene that decides whether you're an alcoholic or not. Rather that you tend to think alike, and handle problems in the same way as your relatives did - or do.

Did that make any sense whatsoever...? ::)


Gary,

You're right, it's simply learned behaviour

Gman
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Gary L. Grape on March 08, 2008, 18:45:34 pm
QuoteGary,

You're right, it's simply learned behaviour

Gman

Yes, so rather environmental than genetical... :)
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: NeilP on March 08, 2008, 18:57:39 pm
Quote
Yes, so rather environmental than genetical... :)


that's not what scientific evidence suggests (http://alcoholism.about.com/cs/genetics/a/bluwa040114.htm) though
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Gman on March 08, 2008, 21:40:28 pm
Quote

that's not what scientific evidence suggests (http://alcoholism.about.com/cs/genetics/a/bluwa040114.htm) though


Ah yes, the old Alcoholics Anonymous argument, and the article is completely unclear as ever in terms of conclusive proof.

Although the debate is largely spurious, I can only give you my experience of counselling hundreds of problem drinkers and drug users, that the one common denominator was not a gene or chromesome that pre-disposed drinking, but was infact simply faulty or malajusted thinking on the part of the individual.

This gene argument for me seeks to take the personal power from individuals who are already stripped of their personal power, being seemingly helpless in the hands of a powerful and addictive drug.

That's my problem with this argument. The vast majority of people who recover from addiction do so by regaining their ability to control their drinking by imposing sensible limits on themselves and understanding how this drug can affect them.

One they do is they very rarely relapse, because their belief about themself as a drinker changes.
AA reckon that once a drunk always a drunk due to this gene that cannot be controlled and that it is always lurking within a person ready to strike when your guard is down.

I just find this argument silly, pointess, unrealistic and unhelpful....just my opinion however ;)

Gman
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: NeilP on March 08, 2008, 21:51:43 pm
I was simply highlighting a scientific perspective on the subject - I've little experience on the subject but I am a scientist. If the gene is commonly found in those with the problem then I imagine environmental factors could trigger it.
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: zedskin on March 08, 2008, 21:56:06 pm
I think you hit the nail on the head

Its about control. IMO and experience

Losing it

Realising its out of

and finally bringing it back under .
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Slim on March 08, 2008, 22:06:58 pm
Quote
Let me assure you as someone who has worked in this field for many, many years, there is no genetic factor that pre-disposes you will become an alcoholic like your sibling.


As a matter of fact Gman, I was discussing this very thread with the guy I share an office with - a neuro-pharmacologist - and he says that there is compelling evidence to suggest that there is in fact a genetic factor that predisposes susceptibility to addiction.
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Slim on March 08, 2008, 22:12:53 pm
QuoteAlthough the debate is largely spurious, I can only give you my experience of counselling hundreds of problem drinkers and drug users, that the one common denominator was not a gene or chromesome that pre-disposed drinking, but was infact simply faulty or maladjusted thinking on the part of the individual.


Interesting! How did you come to your conclusion specifically about the genes? Did you actually isolate and analyse specific gene characteristics in the problem drinkers you came across, before arriving at this conclusion?
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Gman on March 08, 2008, 23:35:52 pm
Quote

Interesting! How did you come to your conclusion specifically about the genes? Did you actually isolate and analyse specific gene characteristics in the problem drinkers you came across, before arriving at this conclusion?


Slim,

No science I'm afraid, just anecdotal evidence of seeing the same patterns of behaviour being exhibited and repeated over and over again.

The same stories, the same cause and effect and the same outcomes from a sample range of hundreds of human beings with completely diverse and separate lives, backgrounds, histories, beliefs and attitudes.

I got to the stage where I could almost forecast a person's story just by watching them walk into my office.

Very interesting subject though, it's really the old nature v nuture debate

Gman
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Gman on March 08, 2008, 23:43:37 pm
Quote

As a matter of fact Gman, I was discussing this very thread with the guy I share an office with - a neuro-pharmacologist - and he says that there is compelling evidence to suggest that there is in fact a genetic factor that predisposes susceptibility to addiction.


Well here's the thing about this debate. If you are a person of science and you have a belief or strong opinion that there is some genetic factor, then it's likely that you will create a narrative to support this belief.

And as yet, there is no proof whatsoever, anymore than there is proof of a genetic factor that makes people gay.

Many intelligent and erudite people believe this theory but as yet, proof is scant, not to mention non existent.

For me, the more interesting debate is what are the human characteristics that result in one person falling victim to addiction when someone else from a very similiar background doesn't.

Now that's an answer I'd be interested in :)

Gman
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: 34Poolboy on March 09, 2008, 08:15:30 am
This may have been discussed but I believe there is a part of the brain responsible for wether one is susceptible to addiction of any kind, the hypothalamus.

By the way, is it still regarded as clever or some sort of right of passage thing in Britain to be a binge drinker? I`ve seen it time and time again on TV or whenever English people come to Germany and also throughout this thread is an undertone of bragadocio. The Germans have a much more responsible adult attitude to drinking and don`t consider it to be at all clever to drink to such antisocial excess.
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Slim on March 09, 2008, 09:39:12 am
Quote

Well here's the thing about this debate. If you are a person of science and you have a belief or strong opinion that there is some genetic factor, then it's likely that you will create a narrative to support this belief.

And as yet, there is no proof whatsoever, anymore than there is proof of a genetic factor that makes people gay.

Many intelligent and erudite people believe this theory but as yet, proof is scant, not to mention non existent.


I have no personal expertise in this area obviously - I'm just the IT bum. But I do believe that there is compelling evidence.

I work with two people who have researched addiction for years, from neurological and psychological perspectives respectively, and I will ask them to outline the evidence for what it's worth.

Interestingly it seems as though smoking during pregnancy can significantly affect a child's susceptibility to addiction later in life, but that's a different question. Nonetheless it does show that there are physiological factors; it's not merely a simple question of attitude.
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Slim on March 09, 2008, 09:45:30 am
QuoteBy the way, is it still regarded as clever or some sort of right of passage thing in Britain to be a binge drinker? I`ve seen it time and time again on TV or whenever English people come to Germany and also throughout this thread is an undertone of bragadocio. The Germans have a much more responsible adult attitude to drinking and don`t consider it to be at all clever to drink to such antisocial excess.


There is definitely an element of our national culture whereby drinking in large quantities is considered a worthy achievement. Certainly drinking in moderation can be considered "lightweight". You can find evidence of this here on TNMS easily.

Ironically if there's one person guilty of sharing "look at me, I've had nine bottles of wine" anecdotes at TNMS over the years, it's Andy. Bit of a lesson there, I suppose.
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Gman on March 09, 2008, 10:36:23 am
QuoteThis may have been discussed but I believe there is a part of the brain responsible for wether one is susceptible to addiction of any kind, the hypothalamus.

By the way, is it still regarded as clever or some sort of right of passage thing in Britain to be a binge drinker? I`ve seen it time and time again on TV or whenever English people come to Germany and also throughout this thread is an undertone of bragadocio. The Germans have a much more responsible adult attitude to drinking and don`t consider it to be at all clever to drink to such antisocial excess.



Unfortunately yes this is true, and when we have a night out or a reason to celebrate, we measure the success of that night by HOW drunk we get :o

We drink to get pissed, that the destination we want on a night out. My own country of Scotland, and my city of Glasgow have horrific records of this type of chaotic drinking, which has blighted us historically and which continue through until today.

The most successful comedy programme in Scotland is called "Chewing the Fat", and one of it's regular and funniest bits shows a guy walking into a pub, and on when being asked what he wants to drink says "nah, ah'm no drinking"...and then the whole pub eventually get onto him saying "go on, have a drink, what's the matter with you".

That's the type of environmental factors that affect us in Scotland :(

Gman
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: 34Poolboy on March 09, 2008, 11:01:51 am
It saddens me to see this to be honest. I must admit that when growing up in England and going to the pub the whole idea of drinking was to get drunk even back then. Now whenever I go back it seems the whole country is out on the razz wearing the standard issue England football shirt.
I can`t keep up with my mates any more and don`t even try. It is very difficult to withstand the peer pressure and you are considered homosexual if you don`t have 8 pints of an evening. There is none of that here apart from down my local but that mostly comes from the ex pats.
It shouldn`t bother or shame me any more, I`m in no way patriotic and feel more European than British but I still wish we had a better reputation in Europe.                                                                                                                                                
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Analog RH on March 09, 2008, 15:10:27 pm
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There is definitely an element of our national culture whereby drinking in large quantities is considered a worthy achievement. Certainly drinking in moderation can be considered "lightweight". You can find evidence of this here on TNMS easily.



I have never lived down having a half in the Green Man back in 2004......

;) ;D

Quote
Ironically if there's one person guilty of sharing "look at me, I've had nine bottles of wine" anecdotes at TNMS over the years, it's Andy. Bit of a lesson there, I suppose.


The only thing you can learn from me is "all things in moderation". Oh, and don't call people pussies for wimping out after a couple of shandies, especially if they've just logged out of MSN.... cos when you quit the sherbets they'll be first in the queue to get their own back.

;) ;D
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: BaldiePete on March 09, 2008, 18:41:56 pm
QuoteThere is none of that here apart from down my local but that mostly comes from the ex pats.                                    


To go completely off-topic on this one, why is it that when British people go abroad they are referred to as "ex-pats" but when someone comes to this country to work they are "immigrants" ?


Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: döm on March 09, 2008, 19:05:01 pm
Quote

To go completely off-topic on this one, why is it that when British people go abroad they are referred to as "ex-pats" but when someone comes to this country to work they are "immigrants"?




In Ireland a term often used is non-nationals  ::)
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: 34Poolboy on March 09, 2008, 20:23:08 pm
Never really thought about it. I`ve lived here longer than I lived in England but to the Germans I will always be an Ausl
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: dwtty on March 09, 2008, 22:08:42 pm
QuoteRemember the Welcon fiasco dear, when ST Johns Ambulance were pumping your stomach after a handful of winegums and a bitter shandy!

be careful please



i know you are just taking the piss Jon but as this is a public forum and i am hoping to organise a Welcon 09 in Cardiff let's just get this clear....... it wasn't drink or stress at Welcon - i was seriously floored by whatever happened, (which i think/ and those who actually saw me ill, was a spiked drink, but i can't prove it), so much so that i stopped breathing and had to be brought round.

My stomach didn't have to be pumped as whatever it was did that all on it's own.i was given anti-drug drugs whatever they are when i got to A & E and took 5 hours to come round, i couldn't stand for a day afterwards and took a full week to recover.

i was found at first being sick but soon collapsed on the floor and became unconscious - i knew something was wrong cos i was saying through the  puking to the girls who were helping. i have never been unconscious in my entire life whatever i have drunk or taken. Admittedly i'm not a big drinker and it does not take a lot but it certainly takes more than 2 and a bit glasses of wine to get me pissed. Anyway Welcon was too an important and event to get pissed at snd yeah, i was worried about people enjoying at s they had the good grace to come from so far to take part.

i scared the life out of myself and those who were around me, my brother and daughter included who seriously thought i was a gonner at one point.

i know that a lot of people were having a great time and carried on having  a great time oblivious to what was going on throughout the gig, which is great, but for those who witnessed me unconscious on the floor of a ladies it was not a nice experience and it wasn't a nice one for me either.

Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Tom Garrett on March 09, 2008, 22:20:25 pm
Bloody hell Maria, one scary experience there. :o
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: dwtty on March 09, 2008, 23:16:26 pm
QuoteBloody hell Maria, one scary experience there. :o



it was. it was very weird, completely divorced from mind and body, was like i was watching myself from above.then i felt like oh shit, i am just too tired for this, found my breathign going slower and slower and slower and was at the same time completely aware of it. then i had a 'near death', went to 'wherever' and there waiting for me was my gran and my first husband, i loved my gran but not my husband for what he did and i thought sod this, i ain't spending eternity with a shit like you, then someone pulled me about and someone was saying my kids names over and over to me and i came back.

I have magic mushrooms and speed and dope etc,i even had hallucinations on pethidine when i was in labour (2 old people sitting on a park bench at the foot of my bed!!!)  but nope never tripped like that!!
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Ron_Hill on March 09, 2008, 23:26:18 pm
That sounds terrible Maria. Makes me wonder what sort of tosser would spike a drink at a Rush convention though. The sheer concept of a Rush fan doing such a thing is almost beyond my imagination.
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Ron_Hill on March 09, 2008, 23:47:18 pm
Just reading back through a lot of this and came upon our right honourable ARH's soul baring post. Total respect to you Andrew. Good luck with that creeping demon. My younger brother had the same battle in his early 20's when at Uni and defeated said beastie but it was touch and go. At one point he was hitting pernod rather hard indeed but he suddenly just got sense and stopped. Both my brother and I definitely do binge nights but I can leave it for weeks or even months without as can he. I enjoy a nice red and an ale or three but it's a plesure thing and usually accompanies food or socialising. It's never about getting off my face (or on it with added floor).

As for Galway, I imagine i'll have a jolly old piss up but i'm respectful of anyone's personal choice drinking or non-drinking wise. An enormous capacity for alcohol or none at all is nothing to do with MY measure of esteem for any individual. Especially you crappy lot in here. ;) ;D
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Neillwith2Ls on March 10, 2008, 11:41:23 am
Just come to the end of my first week of keeping tabs on what I drink, and shocked myself; 58 units, nearly three times the recommended amount!

It was a particularly 'bad' example perhaps as I was out every evening of the week, and went to two gigs in London. Annoyingly I wasn't particularly drunk on any of these occasions, certainly not to the extent that I had a hangover or felt sh*tfaced.

This week, by contrast, has only one planned night out so will hopefully yield a different answer.
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: NeilP on March 10, 2008, 11:48:56 am
Don't beat yourself up Neill - 58 isn't an excessive amount IMO.
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Jonners on March 10, 2008, 16:53:11 pm
Correct, put a 1 before that number, and call yourself a real man!!
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: zedskin on March 11, 2008, 10:03:45 am
Us common folk are all alckies  ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Analog RH on March 11, 2008, 10:23:37 am

Us posh folk are even worse........
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: zedskin on March 11, 2008, 10:29:13 am
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Us posh folk are even worse........


Past tense for you Dear  ;) ::)
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: 34Poolboy on March 11, 2008, 11:04:38 am
I wasn`t talkin about my friends, I was talking about the general impression I get when I come over.

I was watching a programme on TV last night about american holiday makers having a really great time eating, drinking and singing in the Hofbrauhaus in Munich. You just know that if that was a bunch of Brits sooner or later it would get bloody...
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Gman on March 11, 2008, 18:33:10 pm
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Well I don't know who your friends are but should you ever meet me I don't wear an England shirt, I don't get so sh!t faced that I can't remember my name and actually I don't go to pubs where it's deemed acceptable to drink like that. I have got to my limit and known that limit, but I actually find it very embarrassing when people behave like idiots here and abroad. If you're life is so bad that you can't get by without a drink, then change it.

I know I live in a fairly affluent place where it's mostly upper middle class people (god forbid I'm talking about class!) and people don't behave that way. However, should I happen to drive past the working/social club that is entirely another scenario, so maybe there is an element of elitism in terms of drinking habits.

Are there any reports into those of lower income vs. higher income binging?
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Ron_Hill on March 11, 2008, 23:46:04 pm
One bottle of Merlot and a couple of chocolate biscuits tonight. Don't know what the units are, don't care. Feel great and enjoying a game of Super Mario Galaxy now. Life is good and for living. :)
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Bez on March 11, 2008, 23:58:44 pm
QuoteOne bottle of Merlot and a couple of chocolate biscuits tonight. Don't know what the units are, don't care. Feel great and enjoying a game of Super Mario Galaxy now. Life is good and for living. :)


Bottle of merlot is probably around 10 mate.... ;)
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: spudley on March 12, 2008, 18:02:33 pm
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Bottle of merlot is probably around 10 mate.... ;)

I've just cracked a bottle as it's back to work tomorrow after ten days leave. The drink in Florida was really poor but I still managed to get through a scary amount. Just realised that I shouldn't really be drinking if I've got to get up at 6am. Too late now, I find that red wine doesn't keep and I wouldn't want to waste it! Seriously though, I might be making use of your unit count as I need to get back in shape for May 10th. (Rush in Vegas in case you didn't know :))
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Neillwith2Ls on March 14, 2008, 11:52:17 am
QuoteJust come to the end of my first week of keeping tabs on what I drink, and shocked myself; 58 units, nearly three times the recommended amount!

This week, by contrast, has only one planned night out so will hopefully yield a different answer.


Doing much better so far this week, only 7.2 units so far this week... but Friday night and the weekend is looming :-/ :D
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Neillwith2Ls on March 15, 2008, 11:29:48 am
Well that evened things out a bit.. 15.1 units yesterday.
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Matt2112 on March 15, 2008, 14:09:32 pm
One solitary bottle of Kronenburg last night.  Cos I wasn't in Glasgow.  :(
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Tom Garrett on March 16, 2008, 13:14:48 pm
What is the Unit count of a 14.5%  French Red? One bottle last night, simply stunning. 8-) Way more pleasurable than 2-3 bottles of Plonk. 8-)
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: NeilP on March 16, 2008, 13:28:10 pm
QuoteWhat is the Unit count of a 14.5%
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: NeilP on March 16, 2008, 13:29:39 pm
Second week of counting and I indulged myself a bit with 44 Units over the week -I was in Scotland ;)
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Tom Garrett on March 16, 2008, 13:31:52 pm
Quote

14.5 x 0.750 (ml) = 10.875 Units - what was the wine?

Domaine La Bouissiere
La Ponche 2005
Only bummer was waiting for it to open properly, 3 hours
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Pudders on March 17, 2008, 00:09:47 am
Oooops..... :-/ ::)
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Fishy on March 17, 2008, 00:14:31 am
lost count :)
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Pudders on March 17, 2008, 00:15:28 am
Quotelost count :)


.....wish I had ::)
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Fishy on March 17, 2008, 00:16:41 am
pished as feck :)
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Pudders on March 17, 2008, 00:20:40 am
Quotepished as feck :)


I think we should have an arbitrary 'Unit Total' for that - say 25? ;D ;)
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Neillwith2Ls on March 17, 2008, 11:25:27 am
Much better week last week, 40.5 units in total. I did drink quite a bit Friday to Sunday; 80% of my weekly unit intake.
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Bez on March 17, 2008, 11:58:29 am
QuoteMuch better week last week, 40.5 units in total. I did drink quite a bit Friday to Sunday; 80% of my weekly unit intake.


Binge drinker..... ::)
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Neillwith2Ls on April 02, 2008, 12:37:23 pm
Finished my monitoring for March. I ended up with a 195.1 units, over double the recommended for a month (21x4.333) :-/
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on April 02, 2008, 13:04:41 pm
QuoteFinished my monitoring for March. I ended up with a 195.1 units, over double the recommended for a month (21x4.333) :-/

Think I'm at around 160.

I wouldn't worrry about it, just have a beer :)
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Bez on April 02, 2008, 13:21:20 pm
QuoteFinished my monitoring for March. I ended up with a 195.1 units, over double the recommended for a month (21x4.333) :-/


good reminder mate....does it make you feel any better if you know that's 35 more than i consumed ?


Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: andyhaines on April 02, 2008, 13:55:35 pm
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Think I'm at around 160.

Glad to see that I'm not the only one to have had a bad week. ;) ::)
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Neillwith2Ls on April 02, 2008, 13:57:11 pm
Any chance of a copy of that spreadsheet Bez? A blank one I mean.. I don't want to analyse your drinking habits!
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Bez on April 02, 2008, 14:03:51 pm
QuoteAny chance of a copy of that spreadsheet Bez? A blank one I mean.. I don't want to analyse your drinking habits!


I'll e-mail it across a bit later....
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: spudley on April 02, 2008, 14:08:16 pm
Quote

I'll e-mail it across a bit later....


If I PM you my e-mail address will you send me a copy too? Not for me you understand but I'll keep a watch on my other half with it  ;)
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Bez on April 02, 2008, 14:09:37 pm
Quote

If I PM you my e-mail address will you send me a copy too? Not for me you understand but I'll keep a watch on my other half with it  ;)


as long as its purley for monitoring purposes, if I hear that you've been nagging him using it as evidence I'll be less than happy... ;)
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Neillwith2Ls on April 02, 2008, 14:34:57 pm
Quote

I'll e-mail it across a bit later....


Cheers mate :)
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Bez on January 03, 2009, 18:43:23 pm
Well, I managed to keep a year's worth of records. Somewhat frighteningly I cut down my drinking last year on previous years, but still ended up with an average monthly intake of around 170 units per month. The rather generous allowance I set (at the top end of governmental recommendations) was 90 units per month.

If anyone wants a customised spreadsheet to record their 2009 intake drop me a PM with an e-mail addy



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Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: spudley on January 03, 2009, 18:47:53 pm
killjoy  ;)
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Bez on January 03, 2009, 18:54:58 pm
Quote from: spudley on January 03, 2009, 18:47:53 pm
killjoy  ;)


need another spreadsheet dear ? I'm guessing the last one lays discarded in some dark corner of your pc, neglected and lonely.... ;)
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: andyhaines on January 03, 2009, 18:56:50 pm
Quote from: Bez on January 03, 2009, 18:43:23 pm
If anyone wants a customised spreadsheet to record their 2009 intake drop me a PM with an e-mail addy

How big are they? :-[



;D
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: spudley on January 03, 2009, 19:00:25 pm
Quote from: Bez on January 03, 2009, 18:54:58 pm
need another spreadsheet dear ? I'm guessing the last one lays discarded in some dark corner of your pc, neglected and lonely.... ;)

You are right. I gave up after two weeks (I mean keeping the speadsheet ...not drinking).
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: NeilP on January 03, 2009, 19:14:39 pm
Wouldn't mind a copy of that Bez, I did the pen paper method and averaged 40 units per weeks when away on business and 56 when on holiday.
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Pudders on January 03, 2009, 23:20:01 pm
I have to admit I gave up after a couple of months - there's only so much fear and terror a man can take, it's enough to drive you to drink......
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Slim on January 05, 2009, 08:04:21 am
I took two 'liver holiday' months off last year; April and October in fact. I found that the April abstinence reset my relationship with alcohol, so that it was a while before I was drinking at the same levels again. However the October month off didn't really, for some reason.

I'll probably have a teetotal month in February; alcohol consumption chez Slim is approaching Bez levels at the moment.
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Nicola B on January 05, 2009, 08:27:48 am
Well I'm glad I wasn't recording mine during December.....looks very scary even if I lie to myself about how how much I actually drank!!!

Will really try this year so am going to track....pm on its way.. :-\
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Chris Quartly on January 05, 2009, 09:06:42 am
I imagine my alcohol intake last year was lower than any other year since I was 17!
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Fishy on January 05, 2009, 15:50:08 pm
Quote from: NeilP on January 03, 2009, 19:14:39 pm
Wouldn't mind a copy of that Bez, I did the pen paper method and averaged 40 units per weeks when away on business and 56 when on holiday.


no copies to zoony though ok....
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Chris Quartly on January 05, 2009, 15:57:17 pm
Looks like you started the year off ok Bez, judging by your graph then it went downhill ;D

I wouldn't mind a copy of the spreadsheet as well.
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: NeilP on January 05, 2009, 16:25:27 pm
Quote from: thefishy on January 05, 2009, 15:50:08 pm
no copies to zoony though ok....


goes without saying
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Fishy on January 05, 2009, 16:28:36 pm
Quote from: NeilP on January 05, 2009, 16:25:27 pm
goes without saying


agreed.but felt in this instance that it needed to be said even though it doesn't need to be said...
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Bez on January 06, 2009, 15:05:54 pm
spreadsheets sent out to the 4 who requested them.... ;)
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: NeilP on January 06, 2009, 15:31:13 pm
got a fright just plotting the first 5 days of 2009
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Andy42g on January 06, 2009, 15:43:08 pm
It always crosses my mind when I read thse kind of threads when people are saying how 'scared' they are when they see how much they drink and worried about livers, weight, health etc etc. Why not just stop drinking?
Not meaning to sound condescending or anything, but if it's such an issue that you have to actually need to chart your relationship with what in effect is a poisonous drug why not just leave the stuff alone?
Anyone reckon they are actually addicted to the stuff?
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: NeilP on January 06, 2009, 16:04:56 pm
I drink regularly (red wine) and do enjoy it, not sure whether I'm addicted as such but I'm certainly hoping that plotting consumption can help me reduce my intake and thus improve my health. C2H5OH may be harmful but I do know that the suggested consumption is based on ~30 year old mortality data - i.e 30 units (for men) is far better than zero for your health - I'm not trying to justify my drinking but if it's enjoyable (in moderation) then I've no intention of quitting unless advised by my GP.
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Lucy on January 06, 2009, 23:16:42 pm
well I have one of these now and I'm hoping the sheer act of having to calculate and record my units will help me to cut down.

I drink far too much for a girl and I pay for it, in being overweight. I am probably 'alcohol dependent' if I'm honest, as many on here may be too, if they'd care to admit it.
I often use a glass of wine to relax and unwind at the end of a day and as I live on my own, I tend to drink more than if I were sharing a bottle and talking to someone over an evening meal.
What? you drink on your own? I hear you cry
Well, most of you have the luxury of not having to. I probably go out more than those with kids and that often means a drink or two. Not that I get stocious every time I'm out, but it all adds up. :-\
I am trying to cut back, but I hate coke and fizzy drinks in general. Too sweet.

I measured the amount my wine glasses take the other day - the ones I use normally, cos they are cheaper, take twice as much as my 'best' ones! 
I knew they were bigger, but not double! Have rearranged my shelves now!   :o

Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: dwtty on January 07, 2009, 09:34:26 am
Quote from: Lucy on January 06, 2009, 23:16:42 pm
well I have one of these now and I'm hoping the sheer act of having to calculate and record my units will help me to cut down.

I drink far too much for a girl and I pay for it, in being overweight. I am probably 'alcohol dependent' if I'm honest, as many on here may be too, if they'd care to admit it.
I often use a glass of wine to relax and unwind at the end of a day and as I live on my own, I tend to drink more than if I were sharing a bottle and talking to someone over an evening meal.
What? you drink on your own? I hear you cry
Well, most of you have the luxury of not having to. I probably go out more than those with kids and that often means a drink or two. Not that I get stocious every time I'm out, but it all adds up. :-\
I am trying to cut back, but I hate coke and fizzy drinks in general. Too sweet.

I measured the amount my wine glasses take the other day - the ones I use normally, cos they are cheaper, take twice as much as my 'best' ones! 
I knew they were bigger, but not double! Have rearranged my shelves now!   :o


Get it sorted woman.

I know what you mean. I can imagine that living on your own you do tend to consume more. It's a way to relax that probably wouldn't be doing if there was someone else around to occupy yourself with.

I'm blessed in a way, too much makes me sick so I tend not to indulge. Have had 0 units since New Years Eve. Got a nice bottle of wine to open when I have finished unpacking the last box, but probably end up doctoring it with lemondade!
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Slim on January 07, 2009, 16:48:43 pm
Quote from: Lucy on January 06, 2009, 23:16:42 pm
well I have one of these now and I'm hoping the sheer act of having to calculate and record my units will help me to cut down.

I drink far too much for a girl and I pay for it, in being overweight. I am probably 'alcohol dependent' if I'm honest, as many on here may be too, if they'd care to admit it.


I had that suspicion about myself, and was pleasantly surprised how easy it was to take a month off the sauce. The first month I did catch myself longing for a Scotch once or twice, but the second time (October) was dead easy. Never even felt like a drink. Alcohol-free lager helped a lot.

I really would recommend it to anyone wanting to evaluate their relationship with alcohol. I'm sure my liver benefitted from its holiday as well.
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: NeilP on January 07, 2009, 21:30:49 pm
Impressive James, I'm sure your liver benefited greatly.
One question, after the month break, did you overindulge with the scotch or just a normal home measure?
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Slim on January 07, 2009, 22:16:45 pm
Quote from: NeilP on January 07, 2009, 21:30:49 pm
Impressive James, I'm sure your liver benefited greatly.
One question, after the month break, did you overindulge with the scotch or just a normal home measure?


Well, after the first month off in April I found that I'd 'reset' my booze habit, and I was happy to stop after one or two Scotches or a couple of beers - I didn't feel like another drink after one or two. But I was back up to my usual level of consumption within 10 days or so.

Oddly, that didn't happen after the October Booze Moratorium. I was drinking at the usual level pretty well immediately after climbing back on the wagon. But in neither case did I drink more than I would have done anyway on returning from abstinence.
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Pudders on January 07, 2009, 22:35:25 pm
As part of a general check up, and having got round to the how much do you drink question, I was advised that breaking the habit of a drink every day was the way to go, just to give the liver the time to recover! There was certainly no great concern at my average intake as it stands now. As a lad in my twenties I used to drink ridiculous amounts of beer over a week - way over what is now recommended - but I rarely drink to excess these days. Trouble is if I do it's usually in the company of members of this site!! My attendance at/as the Green Man the day after a particularly excessive night at a Govt. Mule gig being a prime example ::)

So, I've knocked spirits on the head completely (not that I was much of a drinker in that respect) and try to make sure I have at least 2 or 3 dry nights a week - and if I'm not out that can easily be 4 or 5!

Having said all that, when I began charting the units last year I was quite shocked how it could all add up!! And it's probably best to disqualify drinking at cricket matches on some technicallity as the last 2/3 occasions with young Mr Berry have been verging on carnage :D
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: LeeC on January 07, 2009, 23:13:49 pm
Quote from: Lucy on January 06, 2009, 23:16:42 pm
...I often use a glass of wine to relax and unwind at the end of a day and as I live on my own, I tend to drink more than if I were sharing a bottle and talking to someone over an evening meal.
What? you drink on your own? I hear you cry
Well, most of you have the luxury of not having to....


Quote from: dwtty on January 07, 2009, 09:34:26 am
I know what you mean. I can imagine that living on your own you do tend to consume more. It's a way to relax that probably wouldn't be doing if there was someone else around to occupy yourself with.


It must be a girl-thing 'cos I live alone and hardly touch the stuff at home.
Self-righteous arse that I am!!!   ;)
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Andy42g on January 08, 2009, 10:57:07 am
Quote from: LeeC on January 07, 2009, 23:13:49 pm
It must be a girl-thing 'cos I live alone and hardly touch the stuff at home.
Self-righteous arse that I am!!!   ;)

Not drinking does make you do feel a bit self righteous... strange isn't it?

I packed it in completely for ages - about 3 years. Not that I was drinking heavily or regularly, but I always ended up with a raging hangover when I did have more than a few beers. One of these was a 'never again', complete waste of a weekend hangover which did it for me. And it really was never again (to the hangovers really) after that, and I stopped drinking.

At the time I also had a partner who was a terrible binge drinker and seeing her completely trollied a few rimes really put me off the stuff. She came from a family where alcohol seemed to be a frightening normaility and their idea of socialising was being pissed up. Her dad was in a pretty terrible state and his history of drinking and what this had led him to do with his 6 kids was just horrible. All in all alcohol to me never seemed to be doing any good and so my relationship with it came to an end.

Nowadays I like a pint or two or some wine occasionally, but generally still keep off the stuff. I did get thoroughly sh!tfaced a few months back on tequila though and the resulting hangover comprehensively reminded me of what I'd been missing  :D.
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: dwtty on January 08, 2009, 11:41:58 am
Quote from: LeeC on January 07, 2009, 23:13:49 pm
It must be a girl-thing 'cos I live alone and hardly touch the stuff at home.
Self-righteous arse that I am!!!   ;)



I don't think it's 'a girl thing'  as such. I think it's a perosnal thing,cos as i said I don't drink 'alone' at home. I really am a social drinker.

it always amazed me how my ex husband could get through 6 pints of cider everynight just sitting around the house!! That was someone with a real problem
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Norwegian on January 08, 2009, 11:44:46 am
Quote from: dwtty on January 07, 2009, 09:34:26 am
I can imagine that living on your own you do tend to consume more. It's a way to relax that probably wouldn't be doing if there was someone else around to occupy yourself with.

It is the other way around for me - I almost never drink alcohol when I am on my own, just the odd glass of red og a beer maybe
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Chris Quartly on January 08, 2009, 11:46:54 am
I also very rarely drink if I'm on my own, and even when it's just Carrie and I we rarely drink in the house at all. We probably average a bottle of wine at the weekend and that's about it.
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: BlueBronco on January 08, 2009, 13:38:40 pm
Never drink during the week these days whether alone or not and probably only drink a couple of beers over the weekend. Over the last few years drinking (4 or 5 pints) just makes me feel like sh*t for at least the next day and evening especially if it's chemical beer from a pub. Not so bad with 3 or 4 pints of decent real ale.

Probably a few years ago I'd have a glass or 2 of wine or beer on most evenings but now I just don't feel like it - it's not that I've actually made a conscious decision not to do it, i just don't feel like having it!
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Analog RH on January 08, 2009, 19:36:28 pm

Bez's spreadsheet is satan. I have already consumed my 90 units and its only the 8th.

Perhaps we could trade units like governments do with emissions. Can I have AndyG's unused ones?  ;) ;D
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: LeeC on January 08, 2009, 19:45:05 pm
Quote from: Analog Rockin' Hard on January 08, 2009, 19:36:28 pm
Perhaps we could trade units like governments do with emissions. Can I have AndyG's unused ones?  ;) ;D

I have stacks of units for sale if anyone wants them?
I've drunk bugger all this year so far.   :-\
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Bez on January 08, 2009, 23:59:46 pm
Quote from: Analog Rockin' Hard on January 08, 2009, 19:36:28 pm
Bez's spreadsheet is satan. I have already consumed my 90 units and its only the 8th.

Perhaps we could trade units like governments do with emissions. Can I have AndyG's unused ones?  ;) ;D


a mate of mine uses the spreadsheet in a slightly different way, he adds 3 per day in a diagonal line to plot his intake against target, it makes him feel better when his worm edges back down towards where he should be (on those rare days that he doesn't drink) rather than where he is... ::)
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Andy42g on January 09, 2009, 09:15:40 am
Quote from: Analog Rockin' Hard on January 08, 2009, 19:36:28 pm
Bez's spreadsheet is satan. I have already consumed my 90 units and its only the 8th.

:D

Quote
Perhaps we could trade units like governments do with emissions. Can I have AndyG's unused ones?  ;) ;D

You're welcome to them - what do I get in return?
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Gary L. Grape on January 09, 2009, 19:35:53 pm
Quote from: Analog Rockin' Hard on January 08, 2009, 19:36:28 pmCan I have AndyG's unused ones?  ;) ;D

You can have mine...that should even things up a bit... ;) :P
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Nicola B on January 10, 2009, 19:01:59 pm
Quote from: Analog Rockin' Hard on January 08, 2009, 19:36:28 pm
Bez's spreadsheet is satan.


I am so with you on that one...

I thought I'd cut down but still seem to be doing more in a night than I should in a week... :-\
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Captain Ron on January 10, 2009, 19:20:23 pm
I drink a bottle of red in the house of an evening usually once a week preceded by a good meal and with music and MSN company. I do not drink alone. I would tend towards a single pint or maybe two passing my local if the notion takes me. If I go out for the evening in a pub i'd do 3-4 pints of ale average unless it's some sort of special social situation and large gathering in which case the counting pints tends to get abandoned in favour of drinking them.  ;D
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Bez on January 10, 2009, 22:01:48 pm
Quote from: Captain Ron on January 10, 2009, 19:20:23 pm
I drink a bottle of red in the house of an evening usually once a week preceded by a good meal and with music and MSN company. I do not drink alone. I would tend towards a single pint or maybe two passing my local if the notion takes me. If I go out for the evening in a pub i'd do 3-4 pints of ale average unless it's some sort of special social situation and large gathering in which case the counting pints tends to get abandoned in favour of drinking them.  ;D


bottle of red = 10
1 -2 pints  = 2 - 6 (depending on strength, 6 if 2 pints of strong lager, like Stella)
3 - 4 pints = 6 - 12

so a possible 28 units per week and outside the recommended allowance mate  ;)
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Captain Ron on January 11, 2009, 03:32:49 am
Only if I go out or hit the pub every night. Not likely. I do pretty much get a bottle of red down every week though.
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Nicola B on January 11, 2009, 10:44:45 am
Another 11 units last night.... :-\

Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: andyhaines on January 11, 2009, 10:54:11 am
Quote from: Nicola B on January 11, 2009, 10:44:45 am
Another 11 units last night.... :-\

Well, that was the first half of my evening. ::)
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Nicola B on January 11, 2009, 10:59:43 am
Quote from: andyhaines on January 11, 2009, 10:54:11 am
Well, that was the first half of my evening. ::)


That's some drinking session.. :o

I might have had a couple more but in true bloke tradition, fell asleep while watching Match of the Day.. ;)
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Neillwith2Ls on January 11, 2009, 11:20:48 am
I monitored from March last year, using Bez's spreadsheet, and am stil doing it now. I was initially surprised at my intake but realised quickly that my intake was nothing spectacular compared to others. I found that since stopping drinking (at home) during the week, I could maintain what I consider a sensible intake and it also massively helped with me losing weight too.

My best month was around 115 units, but my worst (December 2008, unsurprisingly) was about 225!
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: TerrBerr on January 11, 2009, 19:24:02 pm
Ok, I know that the limits suggested by the government are arbitrary but seeing how quickly the units can mount up is... sobering. I just got my spreadsheet from Bez today and have input what I can remember of this year's drinking so far. It's the 11th and I'm only one moderate night out away from my limit for January.  :o King's X shows (and associated TNMS meets) in W'hampton and London are on the horizon and possibly Bravado to top it all off. I can easily see myself doing double the recommended intake for this month. Dayum!  :-\
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Gary L. Grape on January 11, 2009, 19:38:44 pm
I must admit it feels good not having to worry about alcohol units anymore... :)
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Analog RH on January 12, 2009, 03:15:52 am

burp
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Bez on January 27, 2009, 12:07:22 pm
I've done a bit of research over the last few days (having seen a poster on the tube on Thursday) and it seems that the NHS now recommend 3 - 4 units per day for men and 2 - 3 per day for the ladies. This means that the target lines on the Excel spreadsheets are set at the lower end of the recommended scales.....feel free to change the number in column B to suit your own target. The graphs will automatically update for you....
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Chris Quartly on January 27, 2009, 12:15:01 pm
90 is a good target I think :)

I'm on 65 for the month so should come in under the "target". I'm quite surprised it's even that high, it does sneak up quite a bit doesn't it.
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: NeilP on January 27, 2009, 12:16:17 pm
well I think 112 every 4 weeks is a much better target  ::)
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Slim on January 27, 2009, 12:54:24 pm
I'm going to take another month off in February. Only 28 days :)

I haven't been counting the units, but since the Yuletide festivities I've had about 5 bottles of Scotch, a couple of bottles of wine / champagne, about 25 330ml bottles of beer.

My usual method of self-regulation is not to buy a bottle of Scotch every week, but Winterval presents tend to defeat that.
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Nicola B on January 27, 2009, 12:58:12 pm
The bad news is I'm up to 90...the good is that there's only a few days to go... :-\

And to think I've cut down now I watching what I drink. ???
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: NeilP on January 27, 2009, 13:01:09 pm
Quote from: Slim on January 27, 2009, 12:54:24 pm
I'm going to take another month off in February. Only 28 days :)

I haven't been counting the units, but since the Yuletide festivities I've had about 5 bottles of Scotch, a couple of bottles of wine / champagne, about 25 330ml bottles of beer.

My usual method of self-regulation is not to buy a bottle of Scotch every week, but Winterval presents tend to defeat that.


that's a fine effort for the winterval period - nice one.
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Bez on January 27, 2009, 13:55:01 pm
I'm sitting on 84.9 at the moment, so enough slack for half a bottle of wine in the next 5 days if I'm to stay under 90....
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Neillwith2Ls on January 27, 2009, 16:40:44 pm
Good effort guys; I'm having a bad start to 2009, due mainly to a 'second' festive period out in Spain in early January (Los Reyes Magos, 6th Jan - it's like Christmas all over again, poor me!)

Sitting on 190 at the moment... so I've adjusted my target to 106: (364/12)x3.5 ::)

I'm thinking of taking a month off, see what happens :)
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Neillwith2Ls on January 27, 2009, 16:41:48 pm
Quote from: Bez on January 27, 2009, 13:55:01 pm
I'm sitting on 84.9 at the moment, so enough slack for half a bottle of wine in the next 5 days if I'm to stay under 90....


But you've done loads of gigs already this year, including what sounded like a bit of a session pre-Kings X! :D
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Bez on January 27, 2009, 16:41:51 pm
Quote from: Neillwith2Ls on January 27, 2009, 16:40:44 pm
Good effort guys; I'm having a bad start to 2009, due mainly to a 'second' festive period out in Spain in early January (Los Reyes Magos, 6th Jan - it's like Christmas all over again, poor me!)

Sitting on 190 at the moment... so I've adjusted my target to 106: (364/12)x3.5 ::)


190  :o :o :o :o :o :o
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Bez on January 27, 2009, 16:42:35 pm
Quote from: Neillwith2Ls on January 27, 2009, 16:41:48 pm
But you've done loads of gigs already this year, including what sounded like a bit of a session pre-Kings X! :D


I was a good boy, 5 pints of Lowenbrau for 15 units.... ;)
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Neillwith2Ls on January 27, 2009, 16:44:08 pm
Quote from: Bez on January 27, 2009, 16:41:51 pm
190  :o :o :o :o :o :o


Like I said, take what you put away at Christmas and add that onto the period 2nd - 7th January when I was knocking it back in Spain! When you're there, it's rude not to; they get the babies on the red wine nice and early too ;)

I was through the 90 ceiling on the 9th... :-[
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: BaldiePete on January 27, 2009, 17:46:25 pm
I've set a target of 84 units a month and am sitting on 79 at the moment  ;D  Unfortunately, I'm going out for a beer and a curry with Patrick tomorrow night and am planning a trip to the Scotch Malt Whisky Society on Saturday.  :-\  Bez's spreadsheet doesn't allow for cask strength whisky - I'll have to do some scaling up.
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Topper on January 27, 2009, 18:21:47 pm
Wonder what this guys unit count was for the week ;D.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/somerset/7853328.stm
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: TerrBerr on January 27, 2009, 18:28:20 pm
Quote from: Bez on January 27, 2009, 16:42:35 pm
I was a good boy, 5 pints of Lowenbrau for 15 units.... ;)


Thanks for that, I'd wondered how much they cost. :)

I'm still over the 90 unit target for the month of January. Three TNMS meets and one works do in one week put the kibosh on any hope of staying under target.  :-\
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: spudley on January 27, 2009, 18:35:18 pm
Quote from: TerrBerr on January 27, 2009, 18:28:20 pm
Thanks for that, I'd wondered how much they cost. :)

I'm still over the 90 unit target for the month of January. Three TNMS meets and one works do in one week put the kibosh on any hope of staying under target.  :-\

;D  You should come out with Zedskin and myself on Friday...we'll probably hit February's target in advance ;)
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Norwegian on January 27, 2009, 18:36:35 pm
Quote from: Topper on January 27, 2009, 18:21:47 pm
Wonder what this guys unit count was for the week ;D.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/somerset/7853328.stm
;D

"A man who became trapped beneath his sofa for two days said he survived by sipping from a bottle of whisky."

"survived two days" ::) ;D
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Lucy on January 27, 2009, 18:43:08 pm
Quote from: TerrBerr on January 27, 2009, 18:28:20 pm
Thanks for that, I'd wondered how much they cost. :)

I'm still over the 90 unit target for the month of January. Three TNMS meets and one works do in one week put the kibosh on any hope of staying under target.  :-\


Trouble is...it's 60 units a month for a girl- :(

I'm just over that at 66 with just under a week to go - but I've been careful this month, which makes me realise just how much I must have been drinking.

My bro is up this weekend to watch Chelmsford City play AFC Wimbledon up the road from me and has expressed a desire to go on the lash  :D -so I'll be well over by then.

There was an article in The Indie recently - which I can't find online now- that suggested that the daily units were misleading people and that you should give your liver a rest by not drinking at all for two days a week at least as it can recover well, if you do.

Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: spudley on January 27, 2009, 18:56:49 pm
Quote from: Lucy on January 27, 2009, 18:43:08 pm
Trouble is...it's 60 units a month for a girl- :(

I'm just over that at 66 with just under a week to go - but I've been careful this month, which makes me realise just how much I must have been drinking.

My bro is up this weekend to watch Chelmsford City play AFC Wimbledon up the road from me and has expressed a desire to go on the lash  :D -so I'll be well over by then.

There was an article in The Indie recently - which I can't find online now- that suggested that the daily units were misleading people and that you should give your liver a rest by not drinking at all for two days a week at least as it can recover well, if you do.
I did 4 days last week without a drink. I can't remember the last time I went that long without...it's not good is it? But I have to say I slept so much better and felt much brighter for it. I think even one drink in the evening affects my quality of sleep so I'm going to make an effort to have a few days a week without alcohol.
That's not to say I will succeed :-\
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: TerrBerr on January 27, 2009, 19:33:38 pm
Quote from: Lucy on January 27, 2009, 18:43:08 pm
Trouble is...it's 60 units a month for a girl- :(


Quote from: Bez on January 27, 2009, 12:07:22 pm
...it seems that the NHS now recommend 3 - 4 units per day for men and 2 - 3 per day for the ladies.


That means 90 is the upper limit for females. I think I'm going to have to aim for the top end of the scale and then work my way down...
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Analog RH on January 27, 2009, 19:44:53 pm
Quote from: spudley on January 27, 2009, 18:35:18 pm
;D  You should come out with Zedskin and myself on Friday...we'll probably hit February's target in advance ;)


Zedskin's a pussy and there is no independent evidence that you're any better, Ms Ley. I think February is probably safe.  ;) ;D

Joking aside, I binned the spreadsheet about a week after Bez sent it as I was horrified at how soon I went through the 90 units. Even not drinking during the week makes little difference. Clearly I drink waaaaay too much and something will have to give at some point.
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Gman on January 27, 2009, 19:50:41 pm
Quote from: Lucy on January 27, 2009, 18:43:08 pm
Trouble is...it's 60 units a month for a girl- :(

I'm just over that at 66 with just under a week to go - but I've been careful this month, which makes me realise just how much I must have been drinking.

My bro is up this weekend to watch Chelmsford City play AFC Wimbledon up the road from me and has expressed a desire to go on the lash  :D -so I'll be well over by then.

There was an article in The Indie recently - which I can't find online now- that suggested that the daily units were misleading people and that you should give your liver a rest by not drinking at all for two days a week at least as it can recover well, if you do.


Units of alcohol is simply a guide to allow people to have a conscious indicator of their drinking levels, and most of the time, it works pretty well.

Not drinking at all for at least 2 days a week is sensible, but a much more simple & effective strategy is to recognise truthfully, the reasons why you drink in the first place, and if this is a problem, or it bothers you...then there are some pretty simple steps you can take to reduce this.

Gman
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Gman on January 27, 2009, 19:57:31 pm
Quote from: Analog Rockin' Hard on January 27, 2009, 19:44:53 pm
Zedskin's a pussy and there is no independent evidence that you're any better, Ms Ley. I think February is probably safe.  ;) ;D

Joking aside, I binned the spreadsheet about a week after Bez sent it as I was horrified at how soon I went through the 90 units. Even not drinking during the week makes little difference. Clearly I drink waaaaay too much and something will have to give at some point.


Now this slightly concerns me my young Rockin' friend. Binning the spreadsheet is one thing, but choosing to ignore your total alcohol intake is a dangerous road to go down.

Why, because then your drinking patterns become habitual, without conscious thought, and then you really are a problem drinker at this stage.

I know it's a good laugh to talk about alcohol consumption on this website and indeed, I've made a pointed reference to it previously in this thread, but after working all these long years with problem drinkers and addicts...it's not fun, if it gets out of hand....especially where it doesn't have to, and perhaps more productive choice can be made.

Gman
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: andyhaines on January 27, 2009, 20:00:11 pm
Didn't have a drink yesterday, and I wasn't going to have a drink tonight, but all this talk of alcohol.... ::) ;D
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: TerrBerr on January 27, 2009, 20:03:14 pm
Quote from: andyhaines on January 27, 2009, 20:00:11 pm
... but all this talk of alcohol.... ::) ;D


Gives a fella a powerful thirst... it does. :)
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: zedskin on January 27, 2009, 20:08:55 pm
Gmans right.

Pass that glass over here you alky and I'll finish it  ;) ::)
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Slim on January 27, 2009, 20:59:05 pm
Quote from: Bez on January 27, 2009, 12:07:22 pm
I've done a bit of research over the last few days (having seen a poster on the tube on Thursday) and it seems that the NHS now recommend 3 - 4 units per day for men and 2 - 3 per day for the ladies. This means that the target lines on the Excel spreadsheets are set at the lower end of the recommended scales


That might be a daily recommended daily limit, but even if you observe that you probably aren't supposed to hit it every day. So I suspect that it's probably not wise to adjust your monthly limit on that basis.

Personally I'm much more likely to overdo the daily intake than the monthly.
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Gman on January 27, 2009, 21:47:29 pm
Quote from: Slim on January 27, 2009, 20:59:05 pm
That might be a daily recommended daily limit, but even if you observe that you probably aren't supposed to hit it every day. So I suspect that it's probably not wise to adjust your monthly limit on that basis.

Personally I'm much more likely to overdo the daily intake than the monthly.


I agree with this and my M.O when it comes to alcohol is moderation at all times with an occasional blow out depending upon the situation.

There's nothing wrong with having a glass of wine every night, or a bottle of beer, indeed there is clear medical evidence that this is quite theraputic. But, continued and continual drinking on a regular basis is dangerous, because the body grows accustomed to the levels of alcohol in the bloodstream and its tolerance increases expotentially meaning you've got to drink more to get the same buzz.

Gman
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Spud on January 30, 2009, 13:17:19 pm
Quote from: Gman on January 27, 2009, 19:57:31 pm
Now this slightly concerns me my young Rockin' friend. Binning the spreadsheet is one thing, but choosing to ignore your total alcohol intake is a dangerous road to go down.

Why, because then your drinking patterns become habitual, without conscious thought, and then you really are a problem drinker at this stage.

I know it's a good laugh to talk about alcohol consumption on this website and indeed, I've made a pointed reference to it previously in this thread, but after working all these long years with problem drinkers and addicts...it's not fun, if it gets out of hand....especially where it doesn't have to, and perhaps more productive choice can be made.

Gman


I got to that stage and told myself to quit having a couple of beers on a lunchtime, it was becoming too habitual - just like going to work.  It was extremely difficult to kick that habit, especially as it was quite a social thing.  Now i might do once a week, but it's always there in the back of the mind to pop out and have a couple, especially if the morning has been shit. 
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Nicola B on February 01, 2009, 18:30:30 pm
Well, this spreadsheet thing has scared the life out of me. I know I've done double what I should have so I'm going to have to have a fresh start with February. I haven'y had one so far.. :D
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: spudley on February 01, 2009, 18:36:26 pm
Quote from: Nicola B on February 01, 2009, 18:30:30 pm
Well, this spreadsheet thing has scared the life out of me. I know I've done double what I should have so I'm going to have to have a fresh start with February. I haven'y had one so far.. :D

Gotta wet the new babies head though eh? ;)
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Slim on February 02, 2009, 00:03:20 am
Quote from: Nicola B on February 01, 2009, 18:30:30 pm
Well, this spreadsheet thing has scared the life out of me. I know I've done double what I should have so I'm going to have to have a fresh start with February. I haven'y had one so far.. :D


Me neither; one down, 27 to go.
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: BaldiePete on February 02, 2009, 00:12:43 am
110.7 units in January for me. It was all going so well until the 28th  :(

At least February only has 28 days  ;D
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Bez on February 02, 2009, 08:13:46 am
86.44 for me and a dry start to Feb as well (I managed to avoid a beer while watching the Superbowl last night....)
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Slim on February 02, 2009, 11:05:57 am
I'd rather avoid the Superbowl while having a beer.
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Bez on February 02, 2009, 11:15:51 am
Quote from: Slim on February 02, 2009, 11:05:57 am
I'd rather avoid the Superbowl while having a beer.


Xenophobic tendencies Slim ? or just too complex for you to understand   ::) ?
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: pdw1 on February 02, 2009, 12:07:52 pm
Quote from: BaldiePete on February 02, 2009, 00:12:43 am
110.7 units in January for me. It was all going so well until the 28th  :(

At least February only has 28 days  ;D

we didnt have that many, did we?  ;D
A scot complaining about going out for a drink with a sothern softee.  i am shocked.  i need a drink  ::)
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Slim on February 02, 2009, 12:42:07 pm
Quote from: Bez on February 02, 2009, 11:15:51 amXenophobic tendencies Slim ? or just too complex for you to understand   ::) ?

No, mate.
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Bez on February 02, 2009, 12:43:17 pm
Quote from: Slim on February 02, 2009, 12:42:07 pm
No, mate.


just a personal preference then.... ;)
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Neillwith2Ls on February 02, 2009, 15:58:47 pm
My January was pretty bad; ended up with 218.9 units.

February will be better, I'm sure :)
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Chris Quartly on February 02, 2009, 16:10:56 pm
71 for January.
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: BaldiePete on February 02, 2009, 17:01:35 pm
Quote from: pdw1 on February 02, 2009, 12:07:52 pm
we didnt have that many, did we?  ;D
A scot complaining about going out for a drink with a sothern softee.  i am shocked.  i need a drink  ::)


It was also going out on the 29th, 30th and 31st (which involved cask strength malt whisky and a bottle of red wine) that did for me. I was well under my target until then.  :P
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: BasspedalMan on February 02, 2009, 17:07:42 pm
I did my monthly allowance on Friday and Saturday last week............

Friday... nice meal with friends (x3) 4 bottles of Red and a pint each followed by a whole bottle of Amaro (liqueur).... then two more bottles of red afterwards................. Saturday... 6 pints of varying ales.........

OUCH!!!
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Neillwith2Ls on February 02, 2009, 17:29:34 pm
Quote from: BasspedalMan on February 02, 2009, 17:07:42 pmFriday... nice meal with friends (x3) 4 bottles of Red and a pint each followed by a whole bottle of Amaro (liqueur).... then two more bottles of red afterwards...


Strictly speaking Friday's counts in last months quotia ;) But it's still a serious amount of booze mate :o

What's that, a bottle of red wine and a pint for dinner, a quarter bottle of the liqueur and then another half bottle of red? Ouch indeed, how was the hangover?! :P

Am surprised you could manage anything aside from water on the Saturday! :D
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: BasspedalMan on February 02, 2009, 17:39:12 pm
Quote from: Neillwith2Ls on February 02, 2009, 17:29:34 pm
Strictly speaking Friday's counts in last months quotia ;) But it's still a serious amount of booze mate :o

What's that, a bottle of red wine and a pint for dinner, a quarter bottle of the liqueur and then another half bottle of red? Ouch indeed, how was the hangover?! :P

Am surprised you could manage anything aside from water on the Saturday! :D


Trust me mate... it was well out of character and NOT to be repeated ANY time soon.... :)  Had a mate over from Guernsey who I hadn't seen in a while and also another buddy who is just a bad influence ;) Strongest thing I'm ingesting this week is Actimel!!!!!
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Slim on February 02, 2009, 18:07:43 pm
Quote from: Bez on February 02, 2009, 12:43:17 pm
just a personal preference then.... ;)


A very strong one, yes :D
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: TerrBerr on February 02, 2009, 22:22:22 pm
Quote from: TerrBerr on January 27, 2009, 18:28:20 pm
I'm still over the 90 unit target for the month of January. Three TNMS meets and one works do in one week put the kibosh on any hope of staying under target.  :-\


Christ... if 2-3 units is the recommended amount for females, that makes 93 units the upper limit for January. I've just done my totals and I've obliterated the target. Out of the 15 days that I drank in January I totted up 185.7 units! FFS!  :o

I knew that it would be a bad month for drinking - On a night out I can easily keep up with the lads. January contained two week-long visits from Ron which included three gigs and one works night out and various local pub crawls and random bottles of wine at home with a film. In those visits I chalked up 98.4 units alone. Then in MSN chats with Ron I knocked back another 40.6 as we synced music and chatted the early hours away together.  I knew that we drank a lot in each other's company but I never would have thought it was so much! Finally in the aftermath of our break up, I attempted to drown my sorrows with another whopping 46.7 units in just three nights.

I am officially drying out in February.  :-\

Quote from: Gman on January 27, 2009, 21:47:29 pm
...continued and continual drinking on a regular basis is dangerous, because the body grows accustomed to the levels of alcohol in the bloodstream and its tolerance increases expotentially meaning you've got to drink more to get the same buzz.

Gman


I certainly found this to be true this past weekend. Thursday - bottle of wine and a big glass of Baileys. Friday - seven tins of Carling. Saturday another seven tins of lager, this time it was Stella!  :o I wasn't even hungover badly on Sunday so my tolerance must have skyrocketed. This is not bragging. I am genuinely shocked at what keeping track of my drinking has revealed to me.

Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Tom Garrett on February 02, 2009, 22:32:04 pm
45.2 for me in January. ::)
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Bez on February 02, 2009, 22:34:09 pm
Quote from: Tom Garrett on February 02, 2009, 22:32:04 pm
45.2 for me in January. ::)


only because you've been ill....any normal month 42.5 would be a Saturday night  ;)
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Slim on February 02, 2009, 22:36:07 pm
Quote from: TerrBerr on February 02, 2009, 22:22:22 pmChrist... if 2-3 units is the recommended amount for females, that makes 93 units the upper limit for January. I've just done my totals and I've obliterated the target. Out of the 15 days that I drank in January I totted up 185.7 units! FFS!  :o


Although 3 units is the recommended maximum for women in any one day, I believe the recommended weekly max is 14 - in which case it's roughly 60, not 93.

48 hrs without alcohol now and actually I feel a bit washed out and groggy, and mentally a little bit jaded.  I think I may be undergoing a mild "drying out" phase.
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Tom Garrett on February 02, 2009, 22:38:23 pm
Quote from: Bez on February 02, 2009, 22:34:09 pm
only because you've been ill....any normal month 42.5 would be a Saturday night  ;)
True, ;D Seriously though , normal average would be 35-40 units per week unless there's some event on.
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: TerrBerr on February 02, 2009, 22:42:13 pm
Quote from: Slim on February 02, 2009, 22:36:07 pm
Although 3 units is the recommended maximum for women in any one day, I believe the recommended weekly max is 14 - in which case it's roughly 60, not 93.


:-\
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Lucy on February 02, 2009, 22:53:14 pm
Quote from: TerrBerr on February 02, 2009, 22:42:13 pm
:-\


I did try and tell you the other day.
Sorry to hear about you and Ron. Take care and try and keep the drinkng under control.xxx
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: TerrBerr on February 12, 2009, 07:43:20 am
Quote from: TerrBerr on February 02, 2009, 22:22:22 pm
I am officially drying out in February.  :-\


0 units in February to date, however a wine and beer-loving Irish man is visiting me this weekend. I think I may have one or two tiny drinks...  :)
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Slim on February 12, 2009, 08:04:38 am
Nice one Terry. I'm still on 0 so far, but have a leaving drink to attend on the 23rd, so may bail out 5 days early.
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Slim on February 16, 2009, 23:46:07 pm
12 days left of Alcohol Free February, and actually I'm not even looking forward to drinking again. Although having said that, I'll undoubtedly have a Scotch or three on March 1st, just because I can.
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Neillwith2Ls on February 18, 2009, 15:08:36 pm
I'm faring a little better this month after a boozy January; 70.5 units to date. Don't think I'll stay under my 104 monthly unit ceiling though.
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Chris Quartly on April 03, 2009, 16:58:22 pm
First quarter figures of 203 for me, pretty good.
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: BaldiePete on April 03, 2009, 17:46:49 pm
Exactly 84 units in March which was my monthly target  ;D
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Nicola B on April 03, 2009, 18:41:43 pm
Gave up counting in March....April not starting too well either and off on holkiday next week.. :-\

Better start again in May!!
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Bez on April 03, 2009, 18:58:29 pm
405 for the 1st quarter for me, down from 430 in the same period last year.... ::)
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Topper on April 03, 2009, 19:08:14 pm
Quote from: BaldiePete on April 03, 2009, 17:46:49 pm
Exactly 84 units in March which was my monthly target  ;D


It's good to meet your monthly targets ;D.
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: BaldiePete on April 03, 2009, 19:19:07 pm
Quote from: Bez on April 03, 2009, 18:58:29 pm
405 for the 1st quarter for me, down from 430 in the same period last year.... ::)


Alkie.  ::)

Only  297 for me.  :P
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Lucy on April 03, 2009, 20:56:57 pm
Quote from: Bez on April 03, 2009, 18:58:29 pm
405 for the 1st quarter for me, down from 430 in the same period last year.... ::)

well -it's a step in the right direction  :)
Me - March was around the 70 units mark - but I didn't fill the chart in regularly and relied a bit too much on memory, so a real guesstimate. More than it should be, but given my b'day and a choir tour could have been more...












Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Bez on April 04, 2009, 09:48:22 am
Quote from: BaldiePete on April 03, 2009, 19:19:07 pm
Alkie.  ::)

I prefer to think of it as having an active social life.... ;D
That does include my birthday and a weeks holiday in Cornwall on the lash.... ;)
Allowing for 4 units per day (the upper limit as prescribed by the government) I'm only 10 days of abstinence away from being on target for the year....shame I had beer on Wednesday and Friday then really !
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: NeilP on April 04, 2009, 12:02:58 pm
I lost count last night at Mose Gate but still waaay over target here I'm afraid.
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Gman on April 04, 2009, 13:40:01 pm
For March my total was 0.....April will change due to the TNMS get together next Friday ::)

Gman
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Gary L. Grape on April 04, 2009, 14:04:38 pm
Quote from: Gman on April 04, 2009, 13:40:01 pmFor March my total was 0.....

My total has been 0 since December 2005 ::) ;D
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Analog RH on April 04, 2009, 16:21:28 pm
Quote from: Gary L. Grape on April 04, 2009, 14:04:38 pm
My total has been 0 since December 2005 ::) ;D


My total has been 0 since 2.30am.

;) ;D
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Prince By-Tor on April 04, 2009, 16:36:02 pm
Quote from: Analog Rockin' Hard on April 04, 2009, 16:21:28 pm
My total has been 0 since 2.30am.

;) ;D


Mine has been 0 since last Sunday. Damn night shifts!!! >:( ;) ;D
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: jarvo on April 04, 2009, 17:43:21 pm
Quite a few last month although did have 2 metallica gigs to go to and my birthday at the end of the month.

Points make prizes though.......

Also just my personal opinion, never trust a man who does not drink!!  :o
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Gary L. Grape on April 04, 2009, 19:09:18 pm
Quote from: Analog Rockin' Hard on April 04, 2009, 16:21:28 pm
My total has been 0 since 2.30am.

;) ;D

Keep up the good work, mate ;)
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Analog RH on April 04, 2009, 20:07:13 pm
Quote from: Gary L. Grape on April 04, 2009, 19:09:18 pm
Keep up the good work, mate ;)


No chance of that. I've had about 18 units since my last post.  ;) ;D
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Tom Garrett on April 04, 2009, 20:11:09 pm
Quote from: Analog Rockin' Hard on April 04, 2009, 20:07:13 pm
No chance of that. I've had about 18 units since my last post.  ;) ;D
About the same here. ;D
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Gary L. Grape on April 04, 2009, 21:05:34 pm
Quote from: Analog Rockin' Hard on April 04, 2009, 20:07:13 pm
No chance of that. I've had about 18 units since my last post.  ;) ;D

Well, you can keep up the good work with that instead, then... ;)
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: graham1970 on April 09, 2009, 21:03:33 pm
0 for me snice the 1980's. Teetotal.

I doubt I will ive longer. I make up for it in Caffeine units.
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: BasspedalMan on April 09, 2009, 21:07:57 pm
Why did I even visit this thread..................................???? :D
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Bez on April 17, 2009, 10:16:53 am
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/8002991.stm

Alcohol contains calories shock !

jeez, sometimes I wonder about the great British public.....
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: JonL on April 17, 2009, 10:59:27 am
Quote from: Bez on April 17, 2009, 10:16:53 am
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/8002991.stm

Alcohol contains calories shock!

jeez, sometimes I wonder about the great British public.....


Wow!! Good job I don't indulge anymore.

At least I'm safe with my healthy chocolate.
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Chris Quartly on April 17, 2009, 11:09:13 am
I always thought a pint was more than 170 calories...
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Tom Garrett on April 17, 2009, 23:43:21 pm
Quote from: Chris Quartly on April 17, 2009, 11:09:13 am
I always thought a pint was more than 170 calories...
Excpt for the environmentally friendly green ones. 8)
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: zedskin on April 17, 2009, 23:56:08 pm
LOL at the reference that the lowest calorie comparison

Vodka= single cream

feck off  ;) ;D

Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Gman on April 18, 2009, 09:02:42 am
Quote from: zedskin on April 17, 2009, 23:56:08 pm
LOL at the reference that the lowest calorie comparison

Vodka= single cream

feck off  ;) ;D


When I was in the business of helping problem drinkers, we seen a huge upsurge in female referrals and a very effective method of helping them control their intake was to provide them with facts about the amount of calories their drinking was causing.

Simplistic stuff, but for many woman, they were more concerned with the impact of increased weight rather than damage from problem drinking.

Gman
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: andyhaines on April 18, 2009, 09:28:56 am
I'm no expert, but is it not also true that whilst acoholic drinks contain calories, most have almost no fat content. Burning calories is much easier than trying to burn fat.
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: JonL on April 18, 2009, 21:22:17 pm
Quote from: andyhaines on April 18, 2009, 09:28:56 am
I'm no expert, but is it not also true that whilst acoholic drinks contain calories, most have almost no fat content. Burning calories is much easier than trying to burn fat.


Yes, but these are empty calories, ie calories in, with no nutritional value at all.
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Andy42g on April 20, 2009, 11:17:29 am
Quote from: andyhaines on April 18, 2009, 09:28:56 am
Burning calories is much easier than trying to burn fat.


Calories are simply a measure of the energy content of both sugars and fat. Sugars are burned first by the body, but of course if you don't burn your calorie intake you'll retain the sugar, which is not good. Fats have much more energy potential, but are harder to digest and so are stored and burned last - generally during exercise when sugars have run out.
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Bez on July 02, 2009, 09:22:41 am
My alcohol units are down by approx 150 in the 1st half of this year compared to last year - 825 compared to 973....that's the equivalent of approx 15 bottles of wine or 50 pints of Stella. A 15% reduction....
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: pdw1 on July 02, 2009, 09:27:15 am
Quote from: Bez on July 02, 2009, 09:22:41 am
My alcohol units are down by approx 150 in the 1st half of this year compared to last year - 825 compared to 973....that's the equivalent of approx 15 bottles of wine or 50 pints of Stella. A 15% reduction....

Well done - can you pass those spare bottles of wine over my way  ;)

Patrick
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: jarvo on July 02, 2009, 09:33:40 am
yeah but in this heat you can sweat most of the units off ........cant you  ;)

21 units per day is a reasonable average daily allowance IMO
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: NeilP on July 02, 2009, 09:52:00 am
Quote from: jarvo on July 02, 2009, 09:33:40 am

21 units per day is a reasonable average daily allowance IMO


Isn't that 10.5 pints of beer or 2 bottles of wine each day?
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Andy42g on July 02, 2009, 10:03:11 am
Quote from: Bez on July 02, 2009, 09:22:41 am
My alcohol units are down by approx 150 in the 1st half of this year compared to last year - 825 compared to 973....that's the equivalent of approx 15 bottles of wine or 50 pints of Stella. A 15% reduction....

:o Well done on the reduction but crikey that's still a lot of booze!
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Chris Quartly on July 02, 2009, 10:59:38 am
Q1 total = 203

Q2 total = 224

Total in 09 so far 427, not too bad :)
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: NeilP on July 02, 2009, 11:19:46 am
Quote from: Andy42g on July 02, 2009, 10:03:11 am
:o Well done on the reduction but crikey that's still a lot of booze!


825 divided by 26 weeks is just over 31 units p/w - average I would have thought?

Well done on the reduction Paul.
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: jarvo on July 02, 2009, 11:39:11 am
Quote from: NeilP on July 02, 2009, 09:52:00 am
Isn't that 10.5 pints of beer or 2 bottles of wine each day?


Obviously not everyday some days can be more........... or less  :o



BTW i am only joking
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Slim on July 02, 2009, 13:53:20 pm
Quote from: NeilP on July 02, 2009, 11:19:46 am
825 divided by 26 weeks is just over 31 units p/w - average I would have thought?


Hope not, as that's well over the recommended weekly max.
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Bez on July 02, 2009, 14:19:24 pm
Quote from: Slim on July 02, 2009, 13:53:20 pm
Hope not, as that's well over the recommended weekly max.

government's most recent recommendations is between 3 - 4 units per day for men...
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: NeilP on July 02, 2009, 14:24:37 pm
Quote from: Slim on July 02, 2009, 13:53:20 pm
Hope not, as that's well over the recommended weekly max.

Well as the average maximum daily alcohol limits range from 2.5-5 units per day for adult males across Europe - 31 is hardly hammering it.

Also, the drinkers body weight may be a factor so as Bez is above average in size ;), I think he's probably fine.
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: BaldiePete on July 02, 2009, 18:31:52 pm
Six month total for me = 588 units.

My target was 504 units, 84 per month. I did actually manage one month (June) under the target.
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Lucy on July 02, 2009, 22:07:22 pm
Quote from: Bez on July 02, 2009, 14:19:24 pm
government's most recent recommendations is between 3 - 4 units per day for men...

but the daily recommendations come with a proviso that you don't drink every day.
Anyway -well done on the reduction.  8) :-*
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Gman on July 03, 2009, 10:53:21 am
feck me, but I worry about some of you guys :o

I know death can strike any of us in a moment,but the amount of booze some of you are packing away is incredible.

How about this...feck the units per week/per month...and just decide to stop today...completely ::)

Give it one week completely free from all alcohol and see what it's like.You never know, it just might change your perception of a few things

Gman
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Andy42g on July 03, 2009, 12:05:26 pm
Quote from: Gman on July 03, 2009, 10:53:21 am
feck me, but I worry about some of you guys :o

I know death can strike any of us in a moment,but the amount of booze some of you are packing away is incredible.

How about this...feck the units per week/per month...and just decide to stop today...completely ::)

Give it one week completely free from all alcohol and see what it's like.You never know, it just might change your perception of a few things

Gman

I would absolutely second that. When there's an option to drink... just don't...?
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Slim on July 03, 2009, 12:21:08 pm
Quote from: Gman on July 03, 2009, 10:53:21 amGive it one week completely free from all alcohol and see what it's like. You never know, it just might change your perception of a few things


I do take a month-long alcohol break now and again and it is surprisingly easy to do, I find. However I don't stop looking forward to the resumption of consumption.
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Chris Quartly on July 03, 2009, 12:33:48 pm
Actually I go many days at a time without drinking, my average week will be 0 units and then a bottle of wine on a Friday night, possibly Saturday night too.
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: NeilP on July 03, 2009, 12:42:06 pm
Quote from: Chris Quartly on July 03, 2009, 12:33:48 pm
Actually I go many days at a time without drinking, my average week will be 0 units and then a bottle of wine on a Friday night, possibly Saturday night too.


Well I do drink more that two bottles of red wine each week but have certainly cut it back this year.

Chris - for info, two bottles of 13.5% wine p/w isn't too far behind Bez's 31 units I reckon, just shows you how it can add up.... especially if he's 30% heavier than you ;)
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: pdw1 on July 03, 2009, 13:33:51 pm
Quote from: Gman on July 03, 2009, 10:53:21 am
feck me, but I worry about some of you guys :o

I know death can strike any of us in a moment,but the amount of booze some of you are packing away is incredible.

Gman


Somebody needs to keep the economy ticking over  ;D
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Gman on July 03, 2009, 20:12:05 pm
Quote from: Slim on July 03, 2009, 12:21:08 pm
I do take a month-long alcohol break now and again and it is surprisingly easy to do, I find. However I don't stop looking forward to the resumption of consumption.


Great song title that.Resumption of consumption :)

Gman
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Slim on July 03, 2009, 21:51:41 pm
Thanks!

Just consuming a Martini now. Bit too much gin in it, and I haven't chilled the glass. But it's doing the job.
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: pdw1 on July 03, 2009, 21:55:25 pm
That reminds me I have a beer in the fridge now I have got the kids to bed :)
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Gman on July 04, 2009, 09:38:18 am
Quote from: Slim on July 03, 2009, 21:51:41 pm
Thanks!

Just consuming a Martini now. Bit too much gin in it, and I haven't chilled the glass. But it's doing the job.


A martini, now that's civilised.I once attended a James Bond night(don't ask),and I ended up drinking about 15 vodka martini's-I was very much stirred & shaken the next day ;D

Gman
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Norwegian on July 04, 2009, 09:50:46 am
In the middle of my spain-holiday now, 5-6 beers and a bottle of wine everyday so far......:-/
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Chris Quartly on July 04, 2009, 09:56:20 am
Quote from: NeilP on July 03, 2009, 12:42:06 pm
Well I do drink more that two bottles of red wine each week but have certainly cut it back this year.

Chris - for info, two bottles of 13.5% wine p/w isn't too far behind Bez's 31 units I reckon, just shows you how it can add up.... especially if he's 30% heavier than you ;)


I meant to say my bottles of wine would be shared with Carrie though :)
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Bez on July 04, 2009, 10:34:27 am
Quote from: Chris Quartly on July 04, 2009, 09:56:20 am
I meant to say my bottles of wine would be shared with Carrie though :)

I've got a mate who shares bottles of wine with his wife, she gets a glass and he gets 5....
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Bez on July 04, 2009, 10:35:12 am
Quote from: Gman on July 04, 2009, 09:38:18 am
A martini, now that's civilised.I once attended a James Bond night(don't ask),and I ended up drinking about 15 vodka martini's-I was very much stirred & shaken the next day ;D

Gman

...and you have the cheek to lecture everyone else on the amount that they drink.... :P
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on July 04, 2009, 23:03:32 pm
Quote from: Bez on July 04, 2009, 10:34:27 am
I've got a mate who shares bottles of wine with his wife, she gets a glass and he gets 5....

Sounds about right does that  ;D

(I did let Mrs S have a glass and a half last night 'cos we were drinking a girly rosé...)

Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Gman on July 05, 2009, 15:15:02 pm
Quote from: Bez on July 04, 2009, 10:35:12 am
...and you have the cheek to lecture everyone else on the amount that they drink.... :P


Oy, I don't lecture my friend...I offer sensible and concerned advice ;)

Besides, the event I mentioned was 15 years ago, when I could handle my alcohol intake ::)

Gman
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Bez on July 05, 2009, 19:02:34 pm
Quote from: Gman on July 05, 2009, 15:15:02 pm
Besides, the event I mentioned was 15 years ago, when I could handle my alcohol intake ::)

So now you're saying that its OK to drink lots if you can handle it....?

I'd like to ask if any TNMSers have actually seen me drunk despite my huge intake.... ;)

Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Andy42g on July 05, 2009, 22:39:10 pm
Quote from: Bez on July 05, 2009, 19:02:34 pm
I'd like to ask if any TNMSers have actually seen me drunk despite my huge intake.... ;)

If you don't get drunk then you could cut out the liver damage and other major alcohol induced health issues etc and have the same effect by not actually drinking? Just a thought.  ;)
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Dixkot on August 02, 2009, 12:23:59 pm


Rip up your spreadsheets guys (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/8172982.stm)
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Slim on August 02, 2009, 20:22:47 pm
.. assuming your spreadsheets are based on daily limits, rather than weekly or monthly.

This part relates to something we've already touched on:

Dr Sheron said that by setting a daily limit, people might take this to mean they could drink every day.

Dr Rachel Seabrook, research manager at the Institute of Alcohol Studies, agrees.

"The Royal Colleges' recommendation for two days of abstinence a week has quietly disappeared. It was probably dropped to keep the message simple. But that is not a good move.

"And we are quite concerned about the use of 'daily' in the message. It implies that you can drink on every day.

"There should be an explicit warning against this."
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Bez on August 03, 2009, 08:46:57 am
Here's my chart for this year to date....

There are days and strings of days when I don't drink. I just use the daily recommended limits as a guide over the week / month. I'm still a pisshead btw !

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v356/bezza57/?action=view&current=units.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v356/bezza57/?action=view&current=units.jpg)
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Slim on August 03, 2009, 17:57:32 pm
I have to say, someone happening across your spreadsheet by chance could get a very different idea of what you'd been drinking from the key on the right hand side.
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Bez on August 03, 2009, 23:25:45 pm
Quote from: Slim on August 03, 2009, 17:57:32 pm
I have to say, someone happening across your spreadsheet by chance could get a very different idea of what you'd been drinking from the key on the right hand side.


I have to say I'd never have read it like that myself....nice spot !
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Slim on August 03, 2009, 23:39:34 pm
Well, it could be latent homosexuality on my part.
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Slim on August 15, 2009, 18:47:36 pm
I'm just consuming my first alcohol units of August. About three of them I think, in the form of a vodka martini. Chilled cocktail glass, twist of lemon, vodka shaken through ice crafted by my fridge from the finest spring water. And slightly too much vermouth, but you can't have everything. The next one will be better. I always forget to use less with vodka.

So, just back from a three week liver holiday. Will try not to cane the sauce so much for a while.
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Gman on August 26, 2009, 13:32:13 pm
I had my first drink at the weekend in many,many months.

Went out for a session with the lads and had a few beers...not as many as them of course and used the thoroughly tried and tested "spacers not chasers" approach :)

No hangover on Sunday thank God...and that's me for another 6 months or so.....unless Celtic win tonight and you never know ;)

Gman
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Slim on August 26, 2009, 19:14:02 pm
Quote from: Slim on August 15, 2009, 18:47:36 pmSo, just back from a three week liver holiday. Will try not to cane the sauce so much for a while.


In fact, I have been caning it a bit, I think it's fair to say. In the eleven days since I came off the moratorium, I've consumed two bottles of 40% vodka (all of it in martinis), about 8 bottles of beer, a small quantity of vermouth, 2/3 of a bottle of wine and half a bottle of Cava. Rock'n'roll.
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Gman on August 26, 2009, 21:10:30 pm
Quote from: Slim on August 26, 2009, 19:14:02 pm
In fact, I have been caning it a bit, I think it's fair to say. In the eleven days since I came off the moratorium, I've consumed two bottles of 40% vodka (all of it in martinis), about 8 bottles of beer, a small quantity of vermouth, 2/3 of a bottle of wine and half a bottle of Cava. Rock'n'roll.


You're a booze bag,big man ;D

Gman
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: pdw1 on August 28, 2009, 11:34:11 am
And we drink even more when on holiday
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/8225029.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/8225029.stm)
Now that is a surprise  :P
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Fuzzface on August 28, 2009, 11:44:45 am
Me & my GF are going sailing with 2 friends this weekend...leaving this afternoon, and will return on sunday afternoon......I guess there will be some beer & wine consumed.... ::) ::)
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Norwegian on August 28, 2009, 11:56:28 am
Quote from: Fuzzface on August 28, 2009, 11:44:45 am
Me & my GF are going sailing with 2 friends this weekend...leaving this afternoon, and will return on sunday afternoon......I guess there will be some beer & wine consumed.... ::) ::)
Sailing and alcohol - great combo ::) ;)

Have a nice trip, try not to vomit inside the boat :)
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on August 28, 2009, 21:49:36 pm
Quote from: Norwegian on August 28, 2009, 11:56:28 am
Sailing and alcohol - great combo ::) ;)

Have a nice trip, try not to vomit inside the boat :)

I was on a boat yesterday where a kid projectile vomited pink spew :P

Anyhoo, on our week away, me and the missus put away over three times the recommended monthly limit, and we still have a long weekend to come  :)
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Fuzzface on August 31, 2009, 07:10:05 am
Quote from: Norwegian on August 28, 2009, 11:56:28 am
Sailing and alcohol - great combo ::) ;)

Have a nice trip, try not to vomit inside the boat :)


There was no drinking while the boat was moving... ;D

Found a nice place where we had a BBQ and beer/wine.....weather was great!

8)
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Gary L. Grape on August 31, 2009, 07:12:37 am
Quote from: Fuzzface on August 31, 2009, 07:10:05 amThere was no drinking while the boat was moving... ;D

You stayed in the harbour all weekend then...? :P
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Fuzzface on August 31, 2009, 07:56:34 am
Quote from: Gary L. Grape on August 31, 2009, 07:12:37 am
You stayed in the harbour all weekend then...? :P


That would have been a good idea, but no... ;D

Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Bez on January 02, 2010, 15:39:11 pm
Just totted up my totals for 2009.

1606 units at an average of approx 133 per month.

This represents a fall on 2008 of 303 units (approx 101 pints of Stella), at an average of over 160 units per month

Target for 2010 is to get down to an average of under 120 units per month  ::)

happy drinking everyone !
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: TerrBerr on January 02, 2010, 15:59:59 pm
I'm amazed at your diligence in keeping the chart for the whole year. I stopped recording units in February! Maybe i should try again this year...
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Bez on January 02, 2010, 16:01:03 pm
Quote from: TerrBerr on January 02, 2010, 15:59:59 pm
I'm amazed at your diligence in keeping the chart for the whole year. I stopped recording units in February! Maybe i should try again this year...


I'm a geek Terr, what more can I say.... ;)
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Lucy on January 02, 2010, 21:43:51 pm
Quote from: Bez on January 02, 2010, 16:01:03 pm
I'm a geek Terr, what more can I say.... ;)

that's soooo true!  ;) ;D

I also gave up - but managed to keep it up until June.  :-[
Will try harder this year - but I need one for calories more, methinks!
Good luck with the target  8)
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Chris Quartly on January 04, 2010, 09:20:01 am
I managed to keep my spreadsheet going, I think it's accurate although I must have forgotten to do some updates in August!

A total of 919.4 so an average of 77 (rounded up) units a month, not too bad although I imagine it might be slightly higher if I missed a few inputs.

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Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Dave64K on January 11, 2010, 10:55:51 am
Adding this one to my new years resolution list and have kept a record since about October 09.

I was suprised how this totals up when you keep a record without modifying behaviour.....my guessing was on the low side.

The one that knocks the units up for me is wine at home.....well it seems wasteful to leave any in the bottle.

Tactics -  I will have to remove alcohol from home and just leave social drinking on the list for 2010 to cut back most effectively. Mind you that removes the least financial cost!! Bloody supermarkets. Still this is about preserving health and life isn't it...... which is priceless.



Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Slim on January 14, 2010, 19:14:46 pm
Since December 25th I have consumed two bottles of vodka, probably about 12 330ml bottles of Stella and Hoegaarden, a bottle of Jura, .25 litres of Jack Daniels, a bit more than half a bottle of Talisker and a bottle or two of wine. And a tiny bit of vermouth.

I can feel another three week liver holiday coming on.
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Nicola B on January 17, 2010, 16:43:43 pm
I started doing mine on Drinkaware.co.uk.  Thought that if I logged  on to that every day then being surrounded by all that incentive to drink sensibly it might help.     Silly me.....I seem to be drinking more than ever!

Oh and a word of advice. Don't tell your doctor you are drinking too much like I did when I went about something else. I got send for a load of blood tests and because they came back normal my head now thinks I can continue!  :-\ 

Will Power where are you???
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Andrew_Haldane on January 18, 2010, 09:00:50 am
Is it worse to occassinaly binge drink socially or drink less (but consistently at home) evey week?
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Bez on January 18, 2010, 09:05:31 am
Quote from: Bisto on January 18, 2010, 09:00:50 am
Is it worse to occassinaly binge drink socially or drink less (but consistently at home) evey week?

who knows mate....I suspect that a quack would tell you that neither is very good, but probably drinking less, more consistently would be the better option...most of the studys I seen seem to indicate that even if you drink moderate amounts daily its important to have "alcohol free days" as well...

Edit : Just seen a  report on the BBC, that says a glass of weaker (10%) wine a day my be good for preventing cancer....
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Andrew_Haldane on January 18, 2010, 09:35:23 am
Most of my days are alcohol free. Just wondered in general
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Andy42g on January 19, 2010, 13:04:02 pm
What about this kind of thing  (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8465939.stm) ... Doubt it will make any difference to you old dyed in the wool boozers  ::)  ;), but a good idea, surely?
"It is estimated that alcohol abuse kills 40,000 people in England and Wales every year, with the annual cost of drink-related crime and disorder in the UK as a whole put at between £8bn and £13bn."  :o
I'm sure I heard some horrific stat on the radio over the weekend about Scottish drinking too - ah:  here it is (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/8463333.stm).
46 bottle of vodka eh? FFS.
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Bez on January 19, 2010, 14:01:19 pm
Quote from: Andy42g on January 19, 2010, 13:04:02 pm
What about this kind of thing  (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8465939.stm) ... Doubt it will make any difference to you old dyed in the wool boozers  ::)  ;), but a good idea, surely?
"It is estimated that alcohol abuse kills 40,000 people in England and Wales every year, with the annual cost of drink-related crime and disorder in the UK as a whole put at between £8bn and £13bn."  :o
I'm sure I heard some horrific stat on the radio over the weekend about Scottish drinking too - ah:  here it is (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/8463333.stm).
46 bottle of vodka eh? FFS.


I think it'll make little difference....

Most youngsters do the majority of their drinking at home, before they go out. Its cheaper and often they get fed as well....
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Chris Quartly on January 19, 2010, 14:07:55 pm
I think banning the "all you can drink" promotions is a good idea, although I don't know if setting a mandatory price on alcohol units is an answer either (though I'm not against it outright), you might price a few people out the market but alcohol abuse occurs in all classes.

The issue really is with education and exposure, kids need to grow up with a different approach to alcohol than they do at the moment.
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Matt2112 on January 19, 2010, 14:38:22 pm
Quote from: Bez on January 19, 2010, 14:01:19 pm
I think it'll make little difference....

Most youngsters do the majority of their drinking at home, before they go out. Its cheaper and often they get fed as well....


Quite.  It's the super-low price of alcohol in supermarkets that's the biggest problem.  But those enormous corporations aren't anywhere near as much as an easy target for the government as bars and nightclubs, are they?  :-\

Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Matt2112 on January 19, 2010, 14:42:54 pm
Quote from: Chris Quartly on January 19, 2010, 14:07:55 pmThe issue really is with education and exposure, kids need to grow up with a different approach to alcohol than they do at the moment.


Absolutely.
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Andy42g on January 19, 2010, 14:43:15 pm
Quote from: Chris Quartly on January 19, 2010, 14:07:55 pm
The issue really is with education and exposure, kids need to grow up with a different approach to alcohol than they do at the moment.

Yeah - there's a dreadful acceptance that drinking is something that everyone  is absolutely entitled to do to any level they feel applicable. Which of course is true. Trouble is the acceptable levels of British drinking just seem to be way out of hand. Same as it ever was though??? It's interesting to read the comments on the BBC site and elsewhere about a"nanny state" etc and "Only I should decide what I drink (and eat)". No matter how much you throw these death and destruction tolls in front of people it always seems to be a 'someone else's problem' (SEP) issue.
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Andy42g on January 19, 2010, 14:45:18 pm
Quote from: Matt2112 on January 19, 2010, 14:38:22 pm
Quite.  It's the super-low price of alcohol in supermarkets that's the biggest problem.  But those enormous corporations aren't anywhere near as much as an easy target for the government as bars and nightclubs, are they?  :-\

I personally think that Supermarkets should be stopped from selling alcohol (which is after all an equivalent class A drug) and have the sales strictly regulated through off licences as it kind of used to be.
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Matt2112 on January 19, 2010, 15:13:39 pm
Quote from: Andy42g on January 19, 2010, 14:45:18 pm
I personally think that Supermarkets should be stopped from selling alcohol (which is after all an equivalent class A drug) and have the sales strictly regulated through off licences as it kind of used to be.


But couldn't you just say that supermarkets are exactly like off-licenses, just much bigger?  Perhaps there should be some kind of minimum charge enforced, but that may create as many social and administrative problems as it solves.  Anyway, measures such as that (which also includes banning "all-you-can-drink" promotions) seems to be just hacking at the branches of the problem rather than tackling the root which, as CQ refers to, means educating and raising the awareness of people from a young age in the first place.
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Andy42g on January 19, 2010, 15:26:44 pm
Quote from: Matt2112 on January 19, 2010, 15:13:39 pm
But couldn't you just say that supermarkets are exactly like off-licenses, just much bigger? 


Maybe but I think that stopping supermarkets selling booze would prevent people just dumping a few bottles of wine/box of beer/bottle of whiskey in their trolley as little more than an afterthought while they are shopping, thus cutting down 'casual' drinking. If people really had to think about making a special trip to get alcohol, and there was a serious campaign to make them realise why this was the case (that they are buyng forms of a seriously dangerous drug) then maybe this would go some way towards the education mentioned, and changing of habits.

Quote... tackling the root which, as CQ refers to, means educating and raising the awareness of people from a young age in the first place.

Yeah, but kids learn most of their behaviour from their parents and if the grown ups were more sensible about their alcohol habits then this is bound to have a knock on effect on their offspring.

Getting booze adverts off the TV entirely would be a big step as well.
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Matt2112 on January 19, 2010, 16:06:17 pm
Quote from: Andy42g on January 19, 2010, 15:26:44 pmYeah, but kids learn most of their behaviour from their parents and if the grown ups were more sensible about their alcohol habits then this is bound to have a knock on effect on their offspring.


Undoubtedly.  All the more reason why there should be some intervention somewhere in this vicious circle (secondary school, say) so the the kids of those kids hopefully have some good sense passed down.  And so on. 

QuoteGetting booze adverts off the TV entirely would be a big step as well.


Possibly, I'm not sure.  A watershed seems sufficient to me.
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Andy42g on January 19, 2010, 16:17:21 pm
Quote from: Matt2112 on January 19, 2010, 16:06:17 pm
Possibly, I'm not sure.  A watershed seems sufficient to me.

How may say 15 years olds got to bed at 9pm? None.
Promoting booze as 'cool' or some sort of sensible lifestyle option should just stop. I'm not saying that there should be some draconian campaigning, but the clever marketing of alcohol such as for instance all these clever Smirnoff ads gives it some kind of cache, when basically all it ever does is get you pissed.
EDIT: They've managed this with cigarettes, so why not drinking?
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Matt2112 on January 19, 2010, 16:57:54 pm
Quote from: Andy42g on January 19, 2010, 16:17:21 pm
How may say 15 years olds got to bed at 9pm? None.


Well, true, but how many of those are significantly influenced by ads compared to peer pressure?   

QuotePromoting booze as 'cool' or some sort of sensible lifestyle option should just stop. I'm not saying that there should be some draconian campaigning, but the clever marketing of alcohol such as for instance all these clever Smirnoff ads gives it some kind of cache, when basically all it ever does is get you pissed.


Yes, but nowadays they're obliged to end the ads with fairly prominent slogans promoting responsible drinking.  If the ad is as influential as it intends, surely this is a counterbalancing factor?

QuoteEDIT: They've managed this with cigarettes, so why not drinking?


I'm definitely sympathetic to that argument, but, playing Devil's Advocate (still), smoking in moderation causes physical harm that drinking likewise doesn't.
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Pudders on January 19, 2010, 17:01:10 pm
Quote from: Andy42g on January 19, 2010, 16:17:21 pm
How may say 15 years olds got to bed at 9pm?


How much have you had to drink? ;)

QuoteEDIT: They've managed this with cigarettes, so why not drinking?


Has that made any difference to the numbers of young people smoking I wonder?
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Chris Quartly on January 19, 2010, 17:23:55 pm
Quote from: Pudders on January 19, 2010, 17:01:10 pm
Has that made any difference to the numbers of young people smoking I wonder?


I doubt the advertising has had much to do with it but here's some interesting figures in any case.

Quote

http://www.statistics.gov.uk/cci/nugget.asp?id=313

Smoking habits in Great Britain

A detailed picture of the nation's smoking habits, and desire to quit, are available from the Office for National Statistics to mark No Smoking Day on Wednesday 11 March 2009.


• Smoking fell to its lowest recorded level in 2007 â€" 21 per cent of the population of Great Britain aged 16 and over.

• 66 per cent of smokers said they wanted to give up.

• 17 per cent of smokers said they lit up within five minutes of waking. Heavy smokers are more likely to light up immediately and 35 per cent of those smoking 20 or more a day do so, compared with 3 per cent of those smoking fewer than 10 a day

• Heavier smokers are less likely to want to give up. The proportion wanting to give up in 2007 was highest among those smoking, on average, fewer than 20 cigarettes a day.

• Health concerns are the most commonly mentioned reason for quitting, with 86 per cent of people who want to give up mentioning at least one health reason. After health, the next most commonly mentioned reasons are costs (27 per cent), family pressure (20 per cent) and the effect on children (15 per cent).

• Married or cohabiting people smoke less (18 per cent) than singles (28 per cent).

• Cigarette smoking is lower among households classified as professional and managerial (15 per cent) than among those classified as routine and manual (26 per cent).

• Smoking is highest in the 20-24 age group (31 per cent) and lowest among those aged 60 and over (12 per cent).
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Slim on January 19, 2010, 17:25:28 pm
Quote from: Andy42g on January 19, 2010, 13:04:02 pmI'm sure I heard some horrific stat on the radio over the weekend about Scottish drinking too - ah:  here it is (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/8463333.stm). 46 bottle of vodka eh? FFS.


If every adult was actually drinking the equivalent of 46 bottles of vodka a year, that wouldn't be too bad, in fact I think they'd all be within the recommended limit. What's worrying is that the distribution isn't likely to be that flat, and just as many will be drinking less than that, many will be drinking a lot more. As an average it's a frightening statistic.
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Slim on January 19, 2010, 17:27:48 pm
Quote from: Andy42g on January 19, 2010, 16:17:21 pm
How may say 15 years olds got to bed at 9pm? None.
Promoting booze as 'cool' or some sort of sensible lifestyle option should just stop. I'm not saying that there should be some draconian campaigning, but the clever marketing of alcohol such as for instance all these clever Smirnoff ads gives it some kind of cache, when basically all it ever does is get you pissed.


That's not true, really. You can make an award-winning martini with vodka when you mix it with other ingredients properly. It's more than just getting pissed.
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Andy42g on January 19, 2010, 21:16:46 pm
Quote from: Chris Quartly on January 19, 2010, 17:23:55 pm
I doubt the advertising has had much to do with it but here's some interesting figures in any case.

I wasn't talking just about advertising - there's been a wholesale shift in attitudes as regards the things - you ban them from public places and (some... enough) people may actually realise how nasty they are. Same might go for booze if it's sale is restricted? Mind you with figures like 40,000 deaths per year from the stuff in just England and Wales it kind of goes without saying that alcohol is a pretty hard core drug, and yet how we all still love to drink...  ::)
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Andy42g on January 19, 2010, 21:22:20 pm
Quote from: Slim on January 19, 2010, 17:27:48 pm
That's not true, really. You can make an award-winning martini with vodka when you mix it with other ingredients properly. ...


Yeah, but after two of them you'll be shitfaced.  :D
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Slim on January 19, 2010, 22:36:49 pm
Had my first alcohol-free evening of the tens, this evening. A couple of alcohol-free Becks with lime juice added saw me through it quite nicely.
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Analog RH on January 19, 2010, 23:19:52 pm
Quote from: Slim on January 19, 2010, 22:36:49 pm
Had my first alcohol-free evening of the tens, this evening. A couple of alcohol-free Becks with lime juice added saw me through it quite nicely.


[sips vodka and coke]
Had my first "dry night" of the year last night. It was fecking awful, and I won't be making the same mistake again any time soon.

[/sips vodka and coke]
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Slim on January 20, 2010, 13:10:33 pm
What's the preferred brand of vodka, old chum?
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Andy42g on January 20, 2010, 16:09:08 pm
Some interesting stats and comments in this BBC article (http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markeaston/2010/01/alcohol.html).
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Analog RH on January 20, 2010, 18:31:05 pm
Quote from: Slim on January 20, 2010, 13:10:33 pm
What's the preferred brand of vodka, old chum?


Whatever I can get my hands on.

;)
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Neillwith2Ls on January 20, 2010, 22:03:29 pm
I kept my spreadsheet going all last year too, but I don't think I got my monthly intake anywhere under 120 units; the average being closer to around 150 I think.

January 2010 didn't start too well, being that I was in Spain until 7th and it's the law to drink everyday and with every meal over there ;)
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Analog RH on January 20, 2010, 22:33:14 pm
Being good today. Limiting myself to 30 units.
I'm drinking Andy G and Slim's units as well as my own. It all evens out in the end.
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Slim on January 20, 2010, 22:42:36 pm
Quote from: Andy42g on January 19, 2010, 21:16:46 pmMind you with figures like 40,000 deaths per year from the stuff in just England and Wales it kind of goes without saying that alcohol is a pretty hard core drug, and yet how we all still love to drink...  ::)


It really isn't a hard core drug. Some (or most?) people drink socially all their adult lives without becoming dependent or causing their livers to fail. What would be an example of a non-hard-core drug?
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Slim on January 20, 2010, 22:43:11 pm
Quote from: Analog Rockin' Hard on January 20, 2010, 22:33:14 pm
Being good today. Limiting myself to 30 units.
I'm drinking Andy G and Slim's units as well as my own. It all evens out in the end.



OK, but I need them back tomorrow.
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Andy42g on January 21, 2010, 09:14:34 am
Quote from: Slim on January 20, 2010, 22:42:36 pm
It really isn't a hard core drug. Some (or most?) people drink socially all their adult lives without becoming dependent or causing their livers to fail.

Depends what you would call "dependent", doesn't it (see the hangover thread...  :( )
Many people manage a heroin or cocaine habit without becoming the stereotypical junkie. I wonder how many of them would consider themselves 'dependent'?

Quote
What would be an example of a non-hard-core drug?

I see your point, but check out the research on alcohol - it's up there just below cocaine and heroin for being nasty. Just because it's "tradition" to drink, and also not illegal doesn't make the stuff any better than the class A's of this world.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long-term_effects_of_alcohol (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long-term_effects_of_alcohol)
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Slim on January 21, 2010, 11:21:12 am
Quote from: Andy42g on January 21, 2010, 09:14:34 amI see your point, but check out the research on alcohol - it's up there just below cocaine and heroin for being nasty. Just because it's "tradition" to drink, and also not illegal doesn't make the stuff any better than the class A's of this world.


Of course, I agree. It's better for different reasons. I suspect that if I'd done heroin as often as I've consumed a martini or a single malt, I would be very much dependent by now. I'm not dependent on alcohol, and neither has it caused me to lose a job or sell my body late at night in a city centre, or ravaged my health. I'm not blind to the potential dangers of drinking but to suggest that it's up there with crack, heroin and the rest, whether legal or not, seems wrong.
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Andy42g on January 21, 2010, 12:34:12 pm
Quote from: Slim on January 21, 2010, 11:21:12 am
..... to suggest that it's up there with crack, heroin and the rest, whether legal or not, seems wrong.

http://drbenkim.com/ten-most-dangerous-drugs.html (http://drbenkim.com/ten-most-dangerous-drugs.html)
It's 5th nastiest, just behind heroin, cocaine, methadone and barbiturates.  Ahead of K, tobacco and amphetamines.

Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Slim on January 21, 2010, 18:28:54 pm
But that takes into account each drug's overall impact on society. For cultural and social reasons heroin is much less popular than vodka, wine and the rest, so for the purposes of that measure, alcohol is heavily weighted. I strongly suspect that alcohol is a long way back by the standards of the first two criteria; physical harm and addictive potential.
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Andy42g on January 22, 2010, 08:44:18 am
It must be hard making Martinis with your head buried in the sand like that.  ;)
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Slim on January 22, 2010, 10:05:48 am
Are kitchen knives are more dangerous than chainsaws?
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Matt2112 on January 22, 2010, 10:45:50 am
Interesting letter in today's Independent:

QuoteThe disease of cheap alcohol

Minimum pricing of alcohol has so many benefits that a political innocent like myself is agog that both main parties have dismissed it so lightly (The Big Question, 20 January).

Excessive drinking is, like obesity, a disease of plenty; the best corrective is to make alcohol more expensive. A bottle of cheap vodka costs about £8 and contains 30 units of alcohol; at 50p a unit it would cost at least £15, and even the most hardened drinker would think twice about glugging a bottle a day. It would also, crucially, be beyond the reach of most teenagers.

As for the argument that minimum pricing would "penalise" moderate and "responsible" drinkers, it's the rising consumption among these very people, not the binge drinkers, that is causing most alarm. Bingers are always with us; it's when moderate drinkers are routinely putting away 30-40 units a week that the wards start filling up.

Minimum pricing would also reduce the imbalance between on and off trades. Even at ridiculous promotional prices, alcohol in pubs and clubs costs far more than in supermarkets.

The alternative that the Government proposes â€" the mandatory code of practice â€" is cumbersome, intrusive, and difficult to police. Minimum pricing, by contrast, is cost-free and virtually self-enforcing. The code of practice also hits the on-trade harder than the off-trade, which is the actual villain here.

One pernicious myth that you ought not to continue to foster is that the "drinks industry" is implacably opposed to minimum pricing. Drinks producers make derisory margins in the off-trade and would (though they dare not say it openly) rejoice in a policy that meant they no longer had to foot the bill for promotional pricing. The lobby that seems to have won the battle (as it always does) is the British Retail Consortium.

Ted Bruning

Sandy, Bedfordshire


Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Bez on January 22, 2010, 11:19:01 am
Quote from: Slim on January 22, 2010, 10:05:48 am
Are kitchen knives are more dangerous than chainsaws?


Not quite sure what you point is here Slim ?

I'd reckon that more injuries are sustained on kitchen knives, but that chainsaws were inherently more dangerous - is that what you're getting at with the classification of drugs and alcohol ?....I'm sure that NeilP can provide some stats....
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Slim on January 22, 2010, 12:10:38 pm
Quote from: Bez on January 22, 2010, 11:19:01 amI'd reckon that more injuries are sustained on kitchen knives, but that chainsaws were inherently more dangerous - is that what you're getting at with the classification of drugs and alcohol ?


Yes. I suspect that, because kitchen knives are far more commonly used, they are more liable to cause injury than chainsaws. So, if similar criteria as are used were to be used in the link Andy provided at http://drbenkim.com/ten-most-dangerous-drugs.html to assess their relative dangers, then I'm sure kitchen knives would be right up there with chainsaws.

However chainsaws are, in my opinion, inherently, more dangerous than kitchen knives. And by the same token, heroin is considerably more dangerous than alcohol.
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Andy42g on January 22, 2010, 12:19:39 pm
Quote from: Slim on January 22, 2010, 12:10:38 pm
However chainsaws are, in my opinion, inherently, more dangerous than kitchen knives. And by the same token, heroin is considerably more dangerous than alcohol.

But you/we drink a good deal of easily available alcohol and merrily state that "I dont drink enough for it to harm me, it's not heroin you know..." and this is EXACTLY why it's such a dangerous drug.
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Slim on January 22, 2010, 12:23:02 pm
QuoteA bottle of cheap vodka costs about £8 and contains 30 units of alcohol; at 50p a unit it would cost at least £15, and even the most hardened drinker would think twice about glugging a bottle a day


That's not right. Vodka is usually 37.5% strength. Some brands are 40% or even stronger, but cheap vodka won't be. A bottle is 70CL, so it's 26.25 units.

More importantly though, the cost is not the real problem. I wouldn't have a problem with minimum pricing per unit provided it doesn't impact more expensive vodka (or Scotch, or gin or whatever). In other words an £8 bottle of vodka might have to cost £8 under new rules, but a £16 bottle should remain the same. However, I can't see that happening. Who's going to buy a bottle of Tesco Value vodka for £15 when you can get Absolut for another quid?

All it will do is price the cheap manufacturers out of the market, or encourage the good stuff to get more expensive. I don't really need the nanny state requiring me to fork out extra for a martini to prevent chav teenagers from getting out of their heads in the street on rubbish booze.
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Slim on January 22, 2010, 12:26:07 pm
Quote from: Andy42g on January 22, 2010, 12:19:39 pm
But you/we drink a good deal of easily available alcohol and merrily state that "I dont drink enough for it to harm me, it's not heroin you know..." and this is EXACTLY why it's such a dangerous drug.


I'm not saying it isn't dangerous - just that it's relative term, and it's a mistake to put it in the same category as heroin. Indeed it works both ways - someone reading this thread could be forgiven for thinking "well, if it's no worse than a couple of brandies, I might try shooting up at the weekend"
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Andy42g on January 22, 2010, 12:29:07 pm
Quote from: Slim on January 22, 2010, 12:23:02 pm
I don't really need the nanny state requiring me to fork out extra for a martini to prevent chav teenagers from getting out of their heads in the street on rubbish booze.

But it's not about you this one - it's all about preventing these kids getting hold of the stuff.
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Andy42g on January 22, 2010, 12:33:49 pm
Quote from: Slim on January 22, 2010, 12:26:07 pm
... someone reading this thread could be forgiven for thinking "well, if it's no worse than a couple of brandies, I might try shooting up at the weekend"

No they wouldn't because they know heroin is dangerous - it's portrayed that way everywhere and quite rightly so. This issue is that alcohol is not regarded as dangerous enough. We are getting all these horrific stats about the death and destruction it causes and yet the likes of you are complaining about how much more your martinis might cost if the gov't tries to take measure to tackle what s becoining a national epidemic (imagine if for instance swine flu was causing 40,000 deaths a year...). As has been stated earlier in this thread there needs to be an absolute shift in perception of alcohol.
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Slim on January 22, 2010, 12:46:23 pm
Quote from: Andy42g on January 22, 2010, 12:33:49 pm
No they wouldn't because they know heroin is dangerous - it's portrayed that way everywhere and quite rightly so. This issue is that alcohol is not regarded as dangerous enough.


Yes, so if you equate them, the consequence is that the logic, for someone who accepts that, can go one of two ways - heroin is only as dangerous as alcohol, being one of them.

QuoteWe are getting all these horrific stats about the death and destruction it causes and yet the likes of you are complaining about how much more your martinis might cost if the gov't tries to take measure to tackle what s becoining a national epidemic (imagine if for instance swine flu was causing 40,000 deaths a year...)


But as I've said, the cost isn't the real problem. Furthermore, if it gets sufficiently expensive to be prohibitive, which after all is the whole point, that will probably lead to a black market in even more dangerous and unregulated substitutes.

And the important point remains that many people, probably millions of people in this country, drink responsibly - they have a few glasses of wine a week, or a few beers perhaps, or a single malt or three at the weekend. Why should they be made to pay for other people's irresponsibility? I'm all for tackling the problem, but the solution needs to be more carefully targeted than that.
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Andy42g on January 22, 2010, 13:08:25 pm
Quote from: Slim on January 22, 2010, 12:46:23 pm
Yes, so if you equate them,...

Who's equating them? It said in the survey that herion is more deadly. You seem to have missed the point about 'perception'.
But then again think about the 'chav' who will avoid heroin because they know it'll kill them, but who will happily drink a bottle of cider a night instead. That'll kill them just the same.

Quote
And the important point remains that many people, probably millions of people in this country, drink responsibly - they have a few glasses of wine a week, or a few beers perhaps, or a single malt or three at the weekend. Why should they be made to pay for other people's irresponsibility?

Indeed. Heaven forbid us law abiding tax paying voters should have to have any kind of responsibility for those less fortunate/responsible than ourselves, or indeed have to face the fact that a few glasses of wine + a few beers + a few whiskeys might actually be really bad for us?
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Slim on January 22, 2010, 13:26:44 pm
Quote from: Andy42g on January 22, 2010, 13:08:25 pmWho's equating them? It said in the survey that herion is more deadly. You seem to have missed the point about 'perception'.


You did, for example when you said "Just because it's "tradition" to drink, and also not illegal doesn't make the stuff any better than the class A's of this world."

QuoteBut then again think about the 'chav' who will avoid herion because they know it'll kill them, but who will happily drink a bottle of cider a night instead. That'll kill them just the same.


I am thinking about that poor chav, bless 'im (or 'er). I don't want the chav to stumble across this thread and think heroin's fine because cider never seems to do much harm.

QuoteIndeed. Heaven forbid us law abiding tax paying voters should have to have any kind of responsibility for those less fortunate/responsible than ourselves, or indeed have to face the fact that a few glasses of wine + a few beers + a few whiskeys might actually be really bad for us?


Firstly accepting a blanket penalty for someone else's irresponsibility isn't "responsibility". Secondly you've substituted a very convenient straw man "+" for the word "or". I do not believe that a few glasses of wine a week, or a few beers, or a single malt or three at the weekend will do any harm. If you do, I'd be interested to see your evidence.
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: NeilP on January 22, 2010, 13:36:06 pm
they have
Quote from: Slim on January 22, 2010, 10:05:48 am
Are kitchen knives are more dangerous than chainsaws?


they have similar hazards but different risks.

As risk can be defined as the combination of the likelihood of an occurrence of a hazardous event or exposure(s) and the severity (consequence) of injury or ill health that can be caused by the event or exposure(s); the critical factors are likelihood and consequence.

More people use alcohol that hard drugs so likelihood is increased, the outcome/consequence will depend on dose (how much you consume) and your physiology I suppose.

I suspect the findings of these studies is that alcohol can damage your health but only kills those who drink to excess through acute or chronic exposure?
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: BaldiePete on January 22, 2010, 13:52:10 pm
Quote from: NeilP on January 22, 2010, 13:36:06 pm
they have
they have similar hazards but different risks.

As risk can be defined as the combination of the likelihood of an occurrence of a hazardous event or exposure(s) and the severity (consequence) of injury or ill health that can be caused by the event or exposure(s); the critical factors are likelihood and consequence.

More people use alcohol that hard drugs so likelihood is increased, the outcome/consequence will depend on dose (how much you consume) and your physiology I suppose.

I suspect the findings of these studies is that alcohol can damage your health but only kills those who drink to excess through acute or chronic exposure?



My old friend, the risk matrix (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Risk_Matrix).  :P

(http://www.austrac.gov.au/elearning_amlctf_programcourse/images/content/diagram_risk_matrix_2.gif)

Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Andrew_Haldane on January 24, 2010, 01:16:17 am
Can I borrow this for the new Rush album will be shit thread please?
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: BaldiePete on January 24, 2010, 01:18:43 am
Quote from: Bisto on January 24, 2010, 01:16:17 am
Can I borrow this for the new Rush album will be shit thread please?


Good idea !
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: BaldiePete on January 02, 2011, 13:24:55 pm
I kept a record of my alcohol consumption throughout 2010 using the spreadsheet .

Total consumption was 1551.1 units or 4.25 units per day.

My target was < 100 units per month which I only managed to achieve twice. The lowest month was September with 81.5 units and the highest was October with 153. That included a TNMS Scottish meet and PT in London which together accounted for 31.7 units.

The largest single day consumption was 18.8 units and my longest periods of abstinence were only three days, implying that I drink small quantities often rather than having occasional mega-binges.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v308/BaldiePete/2010units.jpg)
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Bez on January 02, 2011, 17:05:05 pm
Scarily similar total to the "folically challenged big fella", with a grand total for the year of 1549.5

I was aiming for a monthly average of less than 130 and I just managed that with 129.1. (This down from last year's 133.8 and the previous year's 160) Next year's target is to get under 124 per month.

My longest stretch without a drink was 7 days and my highest single daily total was 25.6 on June 27th - England lost to Germany in the World cup and I was away on golf tour....overall an excellent day !

There are a couple of notable week long sessions in the year, the 1st was my annual trip to Cornwall in Feb with friends, the second was a big datacentre move in Northern Ireland (a week working hard and playing harder) and the 3rd being golf tour / world cup in June

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v356/bezza57/Units2010.jpg)

Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Dixkot on January 02, 2011, 17:21:41 pm


Do you carry a wee notebook and record the drinks as you have them or do you guesstimate when you get home.
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Bez on January 02, 2011, 17:37:17 pm
Quote from: Dixkot on January 02, 2011, 17:21:41 pm

Do you carry a wee notebook and record the drinks as you have them or do you guesstimate when you get home.


I keep a running total as I go....its more difficult when drinking wine  ;)
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: zoony on January 02, 2011, 18:18:36 pm
I'm off out with the good lady for a game of bingo, and a few games of darts with Greg tonight. I'll have 4 or 5 pints, and this will be my first alcohol since a pint of Murphys on the 19th of december.
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Xanadu-Princess2112 on January 02, 2011, 19:39:48 pm
Quote from: zoony on January 02, 2011, 18:18:36 pm
I'm off out with the good lady for a game of bingo, and a few games of darts

You really do live the rock & roll lifestyle don't you Zoony :P :P :P

I hadn't had any alcohol for months and months and on Christmas Day had 2 glasses of Baileys Irish Cream and felt a bit squiffy - whats all that about!!!!! 
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Pudders on January 02, 2011, 19:57:57 pm
I've just dug out the old spreadsheet you sent me a few years back Bez - I never did really keep it going ::0

I can have a bash at using that - though it only appears to cover three months for some reason - or do you have the latest all singing all dancing version on offer?
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: BaldiePete on January 02, 2011, 19:59:57 pm
Quote from: Dixkot on January 02, 2011, 17:21:41 pm

Do you carry a wee notebook and record the drinks as you have them or do you guesstimate when you get home.


Guesstimate when I get home for me. I also assume that all bottles of wine are 13.5% ABV, it just makes things easier.
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: BaldiePete on January 02, 2011, 20:01:25 pm
Also, I have a shortcut to the spreadsheet in my startup folder so it opens every day when I switch the PC on. That makes it easier to remember to fill it in.
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Bez on January 03, 2011, 02:02:16 am
Quote from: Pudders on January 02, 2011, 19:57:57 pm
I've just dug out the old spreadsheet you sent me a few years back Bez - I never did really keep it going ::0

I can have a bash at using that - though it only appears to cover three months for some reason - or do you have the latest all singing all dancing version on offer?


I'll e-mail you a 12 month version with annual graph included.... ;)
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: zoony on January 03, 2011, 09:39:00 am
Quote from: Xanadu-Princess2112 on January 02, 2011, 19:39:48 pm
You really do live the rock & roll lifestyle don't you Zoony :P :P :P




It doesn't take a lot to please me  ;).
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: zoony on January 03, 2011, 09:40:45 am
Quote from: zoony on January 02, 2011, 18:18:36 pm
I'm off out with the good lady for a game of bingo, and a few games of darts with Greg tonight. I'll have 4 or 5 pints, and this will be my first alcohol since a pint of Murphys on the 19th of december.


In the end i only had 2 pints of Murphys and a double Malibu and pineapple. Next monday before i have another drink at quiz night.
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Pudders on January 03, 2011, 10:35:44 am
Quote from: Bez on January 03, 2011, 02:02:16 am
I'll e-mail you a 12 month version with annual graph included.... ;)


Cheers Bez - tying myaself in knots trying to get the data linked to the graph ::)
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Pudders on January 09, 2011, 20:25:34 pm
Crikey - it's an eye opener for sure......few dry days coming up me thinks ::)
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Dixkot on January 09, 2011, 21:19:45 pm
Quote from: zoony on January 03, 2011, 09:40:45 am
a double Malibu and pineapple.


Was it your wife or boyfriend you were out with?  ;)
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: BaldiePete on January 09, 2011, 21:30:08 pm
Four dry days last week. Trying for five this week.  :o  Nothing till Friday for me (unless I crack  :-\ )
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on January 09, 2011, 21:38:26 pm
Quote from: BaldiePete on January 09, 2011, 21:30:08 pm
Four dry days last week. Trying for five this week.  :o  Nothing till Friday for me (unless I crack  :-\ )

Are you quite sure you're Scottish?
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Dixkot on January 09, 2011, 21:45:15 pm

I honestly can't remember the last day I was alcohol free.  It must be years.

Tomorrow will be alcohol free though.  Diet starts.  Needing to lose a few stone.

Going for Friday & Saturday as the only drinking days.
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Pudders on January 09, 2011, 21:56:02 pm
I usually manage one or two dry days per week, but not over the Christmas/New Year/Birthday period! Nothing today though and aiming for the same as Pete - unless I crack as well!
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Analog RH on January 09, 2011, 22:01:31 pm

Fifth day dry here. Aiming for Friday too. Works pissup that day........
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Pudders on January 09, 2011, 22:02:19 pm
Quote from: Analog Rockin' Hard on January 09, 2011, 22:01:31 pm
Fifth day dry here. Aiming for Friday too. Works pissup that day........


All that good work destroyed in a few hours.... ;D
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: BaldiePete on January 09, 2011, 22:33:13 pm
Quote from: Nick Sims on January 09, 2011, 21:38:26 pm
Are you quite sure you're Scottish?


It must come from my father's side of the family.
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: BaldiePete on January 09, 2011, 22:38:18 pm
Currently gagging on  a drink here but I will be strong (unlike this orange juice I'm drinking  :( )
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Dixkot on January 09, 2011, 22:45:05 pm
Quote from: BaldiePete on January 09, 2011, 22:38:18 pm
Currently gagging on  a drink here but I will be strong (unlike this orange juice I'm drinking  :( )


Thought it would be unfair to enter abstinence with so much drink in the house, so have been spending the day polishing it off.   ::)
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Pudders on January 09, 2011, 23:01:02 pm
Quote from: BaldiePete on January 09, 2011, 22:38:18 pm
Currently gagging on  a drink here but I will be strong (unlike this orange juice I'm drinking  :( )


I'm very upmarket here - soda and lime :-\
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Bez on January 10, 2011, 08:12:59 am
a pint of Becks Vier on New Year's Day and a bottle and a half of wine on Saturday is all I've had so far this year....

I don't have a problem not drinking during the week - unless I'm doing something specific, like a gig or meet with mates etc....
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Spud on January 12, 2011, 14:42:29 pm
I reckon i probably did about 2500-3000 units last year.  Far, far too much. 

not a bad start this year, the more running i'm doing the less i fancy a drink as i feel quite ill when i get in.  I'm also trying to stick to red wine this year at home and not the bottled lagers.
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Slim on January 12, 2011, 18:47:58 pm
Dry days are unusual, but not rare for me. Probably three or four a month. I did have a practice of laying off booze completely for a few weeks a couple of times a year, but the last time I did that it took me a few days to get my taste for vodka martinis back. I was so looking forward to the first one, but it just tasted a bit medicinal and strange.

I just can't take that risk.
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Jonners on January 14, 2011, 10:25:08 am
Not really a drinker these days, mainly red wine at the weekends with food, have probably cut myself down to roughly 2 bottles of wine a week, with none Monday Through Thursday

We have our golf club dinner tonight, and port gets drunk by the flaggon

Have pre warned Mrs M I may be a bit fragile tomorrow morning.

Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Bez on January 14, 2011, 12:49:32 pm
2 bottles of red a week works out to be roughly 20 units.... ;)
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Chris Quartly on January 14, 2011, 13:36:21 pm
Shared between 2 is only 10 though! I very rarely drink at home but we'll have a bottle of wine on Friday and Saturday. Other than that it just depends what's on the social calendar.
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Jonners on January 14, 2011, 13:59:07 pm
Quote from: Chris Quartly on January 14, 2011, 13:36:21 pm
Shared between 2 is only 10 though! I very rarely drink at home but we'll have a bottle of wine on Friday and Saturday. Other than that it just depends what's on the social calendar.


shared between 1 is the truth, mrs M does not drink
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Analog RH on January 14, 2011, 14:04:28 pm

Have had one can of Stella since getting back from Scotland.
Works do this afternoon.  ;)
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Neillwith2Ls on January 14, 2011, 14:30:55 pm
2010 was not bad me, I ended up recording 1732 units up until 23rd December so I reckon I probably got up to around 1760/1770; something like that. Not great, and January 2010 was particularly poor with 199 units! My best month was November, with 110.6 units. Over the year I averaged 7 dry days per month, the most being 10 days, the least being 5.

I lost track over Christmas and New Year, then I went to Spain for a week! Bez's spreadsheet, and my Word file which I log my intake, are on my works PC so unless I noted it down on a pad there was no way I'd remember.

So, 2011's spreadsheet started on 10th January for me :P

However, I was sick as a dog over Christmas, so probably drank a lot less than I normally would.
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Analog RH on January 14, 2011, 19:54:09 pm

Oh dear god.

I've had a few units today.

I blame Fred Barchetta.
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Fred Barchetta on January 14, 2011, 23:12:52 pm
Quote from: Analog Rockin' Hard on January 14, 2011, 19:54:09 pm
Oh dear god.

I've had a few units today.

I blame Fred Barchetta.


Don't discredit me..............I'm trying to build a reputation.  :P
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Analog RH on January 15, 2011, 13:42:49 pm

Hangover free after a rare moment of clarity led me to drink squash for an hour before I passed out on the sofa.  ;D
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Neph on January 15, 2011, 13:45:42 pm
My alcohol unit consumption this year has been zero, sobriety is a great thing.
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Andy42g on January 24, 2011, 09:37:17 am
Booze calculator:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/12254668 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/12254668)
Just sticking a couple of glasses of wine in this it tots up as incredibly expensive and remarkably calorific.  :o
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on January 24, 2011, 10:45:58 am
Quote from: Andy42g on January 24, 2011, 09:37:17 am
Booze calculator:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/12254668 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/12254668)
Just sticking a couple of glasses of wine in this it tots up as incredibly expensive and remarkably calorific.  :o

Yes, but it helps blot out real life.

Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Matt2112 on January 24, 2011, 11:06:41 am
Quote from: Nick Sims on January 24, 2011, 10:45:58 am
Yes, but it helps blot out real life.


Yes, and it makes people horny as well, so when they get home after a night on the lash they work off the calories they've just put on.  Happy days.  :D
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Andy42g on January 24, 2011, 11:17:29 am
Quote from: Matt2112 on January 24, 2011, 11:06:41 am
Yes, and it makes people horny as well, so when they get home after a night on the lash they work off the calories they've just put on.  Happy days.  :D

So, what you are saying is you only get a shag if she's pissed?  ;)
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Pudders on January 24, 2011, 11:34:11 am
Quote from: Andy42g on January 24, 2011, 11:17:29 am
So, what you are saying is you only get a shag if she's pissed?  ;)


For some reason that made me laugh out loud! (Sorry Matt  ;D ;) )
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Slim on January 24, 2011, 13:20:43 pm
I believe I've consumed five bottles of vodka and a bottle & a half of Scotch in the last month or so, not to mention a fair few beers and glasses of wine. Oh and about a bottle of Baileys.

No more vodka until next weekend. I've got two bottles of San Miguel in the fridge, I'll make do with those this week.
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Matt2112 on January 24, 2011, 13:22:56 pm
Quote from: Andy42g on January 24, 2011, 11:17:29 am
So, what you are saying is you only get a shag if she's pissed?  ;)


I'll let you have that one.  Clever git.  ;D
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: zoony on January 25, 2011, 09:12:34 am
I must admit to going way over my average over the weekend. Had 2 pints when we went for lunch with NeilP on saturday, i had 7 at the Bravado gig and pre show meet up on sunday, and another 2 pints at the quiz last night.
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Slim on January 25, 2011, 13:01:02 pm
I had a night off the sauce last night. Another one tonight as well. I'm sick of drinking all the time. It won't last long I'm sure, but my liver will appreciate the holiday.
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: captainkurtz on January 25, 2011, 13:34:42 pm
I havent had a drop all year.
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: zoony on January 25, 2011, 22:49:10 pm
Quote from: Slim on January 25, 2011, 13:01:02 pm
I had a night off the sauce last night. Another one tonight as well. I'm sick of drinking all the time. It won't last long I'm sure, but my liver will appreciate the holiday.


At least you don't carry much weight for the amount you drink Slim. Imagine how big i'd be if i drunk a lot  :-\.
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Slim on January 25, 2011, 23:04:44 pm
I've had withdrawal symptoms this evening - I'm washed out, jaded and tired, I've got a headache and my neck's aching. I usually get all or most of those effects about 48 hours after the last drink. I still don't feel like having a drink at all, though. I just want to dry out. No booze for me tomorrow night either.
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Pudders on January 25, 2011, 23:47:20 pm
I'm on my third week of no booze Sunday through Wednesday - drinking waaaaay too much tea though!
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Analog RH on January 25, 2011, 23:49:29 pm
Quote from: Pudders on January 25, 2011, 23:47:20 pm
I'm on my third week of no booze Sunday through Wednesday - drinking waaaaay too much tea though!


I don't know whether to congratulate you or call you a pussy..... or both!

;) ;D
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: zedskin on January 26, 2011, 00:45:52 am
Quote from: Pudders on January 25, 2011, 23:47:20 pm
I'm on my third week of no booze Sunday through Wednesday - drinking waaaaay too much tea though!


thur to Sat ?

;)
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Andrew_Haldane on January 27, 2011, 18:57:30 pm
Still got third of a bottle of Hine VSOP Brandy, half bottles of Woods Rum, Bacardi, Cointreau, A'bunadh, Gordons Gin, a litre of Baileys and two bottles of Port ................ am I in my house? :o
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: BaldiePete on February 01, 2011, 06:43:13 am
66 units in January, 10 drinking days and 21 dry days. That's exactly the opposite of January 2010 when I had 10 dry days,  21 drinking days and consumed 115 units.

It's less than any single month last year and probably the first time I've had less than 80 units in a month for years.  :)

Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Neph on February 01, 2011, 08:03:19 am
Still sitting at 0 units for 2011. I received a thank you card from my liver this morning.
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Bez on February 01, 2011, 09:58:52 am
67.3 for me in Jan over 8 days and that includes a night out with old school mates where I had a couple of bottles of red.... ;)

The lowest monthly total since I've been recording (in my 4th year now)

February will be very different  ;)
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on February 01, 2011, 10:13:58 am
Wimps! 115 for me in January :) That's with cutting out my midweek tipple, so just weekends (Fri, Sat, Sun evenings)
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Slim on February 01, 2011, 11:35:07 am
No alcohol for over eight days now. I'll keep going until the weekend.
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Andrew_Haldane on February 01, 2011, 20:29:30 pm
Quote from: Bisto on January 27, 2011, 18:57:30 pm
Still got third of a bottle of Hine VSOP Brandy, half bottles of Woods Rum, Bacardi, Cointreau, A'bunadh, Gordons Gin, a litre of Baileys and two bottles of Port ................ am I in my house? :o


Just found another half bottle of Drambuie, a third of spiced Rum and another bottle of Captain Morgan with yet another bottle of Rum heading this way at the weekend donated by the MIL (unwanted gift from a Jamaican neighbour) Quite a responsibility ???
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on April 07, 2011, 10:30:34 am
Let's get this back on track shall we. See what comes crawling out of the woodwork.

After 101 units in February (Max 13.5) March saw a consumption of 102 units (Max 12). Not a great surprise in the result there as March had the same number of drinking days for me as Feb with a sunday lunch at the parent's in both months - the source of maximum consumption.

April will see an increase :)
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Bez on April 07, 2011, 10:44:25 am
Feb : 142.6 (a week on hols with Friends)
Mar : 119.8 (7 gigs and my birthday)

On target to be under target for the year....Mrs B is away for nearly 2 weeks in April, so that'll be a challenge !
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: BaldiePete on April 07, 2011, 23:18:10 pm
A lot of this thread seems to have been lost forever now. My February and March numbers were:

Feb: 76.9 (maximum 12)
March : 98.5 (maximum 19.5)

Along with January's 66 that makes three months under 100 and an average of 80.47 units which compare to last years average over the same period of 121.5.
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: TerrBerr on April 07, 2011, 23:34:44 pm
Quote from: BaldiePete on April 07, 2011, 23:18:10 pm
A lot of this thread seems to have been lost forever now. My February and March numbers were:

Feb: 76.9 (maximum 12)
March : 98.5 (maximum 19.5)

Along with January's 66 that makes three months under 100 and an average of 80.47 units which compare to last years average over the same period of 121.5.


Hurrah for statistical data! Great reduction in consumption there, BP. What I want to know is, what differences do you notice now that you've reduced your intake by 1/3? Money? Weight loss? Inch loss? BP reduction? (Blood pressure, I mean) What activities are you doing instead of drinking? Getting more sleep? Getting more in general? :) If this thread is to be an incentive to us to drink less, spill! :D
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: BaldiePete on April 07, 2011, 23:51:42 pm
I have more money and  less weight than I used to have. I don't know what effect it has had on my blood pressure but I was already on medication for high blood pressure so any reduction would be good. I must measure my BP sometime soon. As for what I do instead, it's usually staring at the whisky collection with with a wistful look on my face ;) Just kidding of course, it's not as if  I've given up completely, unlike Neph who I don't think has had a drink this year.  :o
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: NeilP on April 07, 2011, 23:57:17 pm
Well I'm drinking plenty atm and feeling ok on it tbh
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Analog RH on April 08, 2011, 09:40:01 am

March was my first month recording my intake, and it was an eye opener. 334 units.
That included 14 dry days.  :o
Think I need to cut down a bit. ;)
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Bez on April 08, 2011, 10:13:06 am
Quote from: Analog Rockin' Hard on April 08, 2011, 09:40:01 am
March was my first month recording my intake, and it was an eye opener. 334 units.
That included 14 dry days.  :o
Think I need to cut down a bit. ;)


;D

Just checked and my total for the year to date is 345 !
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on April 08, 2011, 10:37:26 am
Quote from: Bez on April 08, 2011, 10:13:06 am
;D

Just checked and my total for the year to date is 345 !

And my YTD total is 343.

I think you should just cut back a fraction Mr Hard, say to 250 units a month.

Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: BaldiePete on May 07, 2011, 23:54:44 pm
99 units in April. I'm managing to keep it under 100 units but there is ZERO chance of that in May.
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Slim on May 08, 2011, 00:35:46 am
Not been counting recently but weekly I'm typically doing a bottle of vodka, five or six 330ml bottles of beer, a glass or two of wine and perhaps a half capful of vermouth.
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Bez on May 08, 2011, 10:13:28 am
144 in April for me, I was under target until Royal Wedding Day.... ::)
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Neillwith2Ls on May 08, 2011, 10:35:47 am
135 in April for me, my highest of the year so far.
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Rrroooaaarrr on May 08, 2011, 12:09:19 pm
A wee bit of Southern Comfort at Christmas. But the rest of the year........0
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on May 08, 2011, 12:44:56 pm
132 for me in April. Highest of the year so far. Due to there being more weekend days and having a birthday.

May will most probably end up being above target too!
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: BaldiePete on May 08, 2011, 12:47:25 pm
Quote from: Nick Sims on May 08, 2011, 12:44:56 pm
132 for me in April. Highest of the year so far. Due to there being more weekend days and having a birthday.

May will most probably end up being above target too!


You'll have to numb your senses before listening to all that new Rush ;)
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on May 08, 2011, 14:38:44 pm
Quote from: BaldiePete on May 08, 2011, 12:47:25 pm
You'll have to numb your senses before listening to all that new Rush ;)

What Senses  ???
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Gman on May 12, 2011, 10:40:32 am
I don't drink from one month to the next but I'm changing the rules for this weekend, where I fully expect to  take up a full 3 month quota over two days ::)

Should be fun ;)

Gman

Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Gman on May 15, 2011, 20:29:47 pm
Hit more than a few units yesterday despite being a card carrying homosexual(Blastzone), because I dared to top up my lager with a dash of lemonade ::)

And in truth I feel it today...have got the munchies big style...what a fecking horrible drug alcohol is :P ::)

Gman
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Blastzone on May 15, 2011, 21:12:56 pm
Quote from: Gman on May 15, 2011, 20:29:47 pm
Hit more than a few units yesterday despite being a card carrying homosexual(Blastzone), because I dared to top up my lager with a dash of lemonade ::)

And in truth I feel it today...have got the munchies big style...what a fecking horrible drug alcohol is :P ::)

Gman


Glad your feeling better now Graham ...thought i was gonna have to carry you home after your third SHANDY :-*
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Gman on May 15, 2011, 23:12:37 pm
Quote from: Blastzone on May 15, 2011, 21:12:56 pm
Glad your feeling better now Graham ...thought i was gonna have to carry you home after your third SHANDY :-*

;D ;D ;)

Gman
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Bez on May 16, 2011, 08:44:12 am
Quote from: Gman on May 15, 2011, 20:29:47 pm
........ card carrying homosexual(Blastzone), because I dared to top up my lager with a dash of lemonade ::)



You'll be taking ice in your whiskey next....
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Chris Quartly on May 16, 2011, 09:06:47 am
Ice in whiskey isn't that bad but if it goes anywhere near his whisky he will need some talking too...
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Gman on May 16, 2011, 21:02:15 pm
Quote from: Bez on May 16, 2011, 08:44:12 am
You'll be taking ice in your whiskey next....

Bez,there's a well known Rush fan from Grangemouth who puts Bailey's
In his whisky.....much worse than ice ;)

Gman
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Bez on May 17, 2011, 08:29:09 am
Quote from: Gman on May 16, 2011, 21:02:15 pm
Bez,there's a well known Rush fan from Grangemouth who puts Bailey's
In his whisky.....much worse than ice ;)

Gman


I thought he was an OK chap when i met him.....seemed very pleasant...now I understand....
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Bez on June 01, 2011, 08:47:43 am
184.5 in May, only 12 dry days in the month.... ::)
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on June 01, 2011, 10:32:26 am
147.4 in May. Maximum of 17.1 on the 12th, and managed 14 dry days :)
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Bez on June 01, 2011, 11:54:03 am
Quote from: Nick Sims on June 01, 2011, 10:32:26 am
147.4 in May. Maximum of 17.1 on the 12th, and managed 14 dry days :)


I had 2 bottles of red and a half of lager on the 25th - so around 21 units ....but managed a whopping 3 bottles of white (30 units) on the 29th (MiL was round for a visit)  ::)
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: BaldiePete on June 01, 2011, 17:30:12 pm
139.8 for May which was less than I expected. I had four days with large totals (there was some guesswork for these ::) )

12th - 23 units
14th - 23 units
19th - 14 units
21st - 18.4 units

Was anything happening on those dates ? ;)

Other than that, normal drinking with 14 dry days.
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Blastzone on June 01, 2011, 18:49:39 pm
Quote from: Gman on May 16, 2011, 21:02:15 pm
Bez,there's a well known Rush fan from Grangemouth who puts Bailey's
In his whisky.....much worse than ice ;)

Gman


It was  a mix of Baileys and Glayva Mr Lamont....
Dont know if thats worse tbh ;)

(tell tale you)
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Bez on June 01, 2011, 21:38:01 pm
Quote from: Blastzone on June 01, 2011, 18:49:39 pm
It was  a mix of Baileys and Glayva Mr Lamont....
Dont know if thats worse tbh ;)

(tell tale you)


Tsk, tsk.....
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Blastzone on June 02, 2011, 13:02:48 pm
Quote from: Bez on June 01, 2011, 21:38:01 pm
Tsk, tsk.....


Just experimenting Mr Bez  ;)
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Bez on June 13, 2011, 14:02:51 pm
Back from golf tour today and I've just done a quick (approximate total)

Thursday  - 19
Friday - 36
Saturday - 20 (could be a bit light here !)
Sunday - 15

::)
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: zoony on June 13, 2011, 14:46:38 pm
Yesterday i had a bottle of Black sheep ale, 5 pints of Stones bitter and a double rum and black. How many units does that work out to then?
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Bez on June 14, 2011, 07:44:13 am
Quote from: zoony on June 13, 2011, 14:46:38 pm
Yesterday i had a bottle of Black sheep ale, 5 pints of Stones bitter and a double rum and black. How many units does that work out to then?


we'd need to know the alcohol content of each one and how much you drank...

at a guess I'd say the 5 pints of Stones would be in the 3 - 4% range, so 2.3 units per pint. The double rum would be 2 units and probably another 2 for the bottle of Black Sheep. (assuming that its quite strong and a 330ml (Can of pop sized) bottle)

So around 17 units  ;)
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Norwegian on June 14, 2011, 12:50:37 pm
Quote from: Bez on June 13, 2011, 14:02:51 pm
Back from golf tour today and I've just done a quick (approximate total)

Thursday  - 19
Friday - 36
Saturday - 20 (could be a bit light here !)
Sunday - 15

::)
the way you mix sports and alcohol - I am shocked ::)
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Andrew_Haldane on June 14, 2011, 14:27:54 pm
Whats your handicap Bez?..............as I've teed it up make an effort please
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Bez on June 14, 2011, 15:10:29 pm
Quote from: Bisto on June 14, 2011, 14:27:54 pm
Whats your handicap Bez?..............as I've teed it up make an effort please


About 4 stones in weight and 2 extra bottles of wine a night...

I played off 18 on tour, 9I'm not a member of a club these days - I don't play often enough etc) which was probably about right....
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Andrew_Haldane on June 14, 2011, 15:13:17 pm
Quote from: Bez on June 14, 2011, 15:10:29 pm
About 4 stones in weight and 2 extra bottles of wine a night...


4 eh ???  ;)

Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: zoony on June 14, 2011, 19:47:06 pm
Quote from: Bez on June 14, 2011, 07:44:13 am
we'd need to know the alcohol content of each one and how much you drank...

at a guess I'd say the 5 pints of Stones would be in the 3 - 4% range, so 2.3 units per pint. The double rum would be 2 units and probably another 2 for the bottle of Black Sheep. (assuming that its quite strong and a 330ml (Can of pop sized) bottle)

So around 17 units  ;)


Stones is 3.7 % mate, and the black sheep was 4.4 % and 568 ml.
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Summerland on June 14, 2011, 20:40:41 pm
Quote from: zoony on June 14, 2011, 19:47:06 pm
Stones is 3.7 % mate, and the black sheep was 4.4 % and 568 ml.


10.508 + 2.499 + 2 (assuming 40% rum in standard double measure) = 15 units
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: zoony on June 14, 2011, 20:43:23 pm
Quote from: Summerland on June 14, 2011, 20:40:41 pm
10.508 + 2.499 + 2 (assuming 40% rum in standard double measure) = 15 units


Probably what i average in a normal month then!
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: TerrBerr on June 24, 2011, 21:39:54 pm
Through a combination of skintedness, antibiotics and a nasty head cold, I've come through the last two weeks following the Bravado gig having had only one pint of Kinfisher and one 300ml bottle of Bud. This has to be the least I've drunk in any two week period for a very very long time.

All that set to change next week with the arrival of my sister. I'm going to have to rebuild my tolerance for her visit.
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Analog RH on June 25, 2011, 10:43:56 am
Quote from: TerrBerr on June 24, 2011, 21:39:54 pm


All that set to change next week with the arrival of my sister. I'm going to have to rebuild my tolerance for her visit.


Shouldn't that say "with the arrival of my sister AND a night Chez Hard"? There's not much that can prepare a tolerance for that......  ;) ;D

Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: TerrBerr on June 25, 2011, 22:02:08 pm
Quote from: Analog Rockin' Hard on June 25, 2011, 10:43:56 am
Shouldn't that say "with the arrival of my sister AND a night Chez Hard"? There's not much that can prepare a tolerance for that......  ;) ;D


I'm in training tonight. Started at 4pm. Keeping on with it. Maintaining the pace admirably...
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: zoony on June 26, 2011, 21:53:55 pm
5 pints of Fosters friday night, and 7 pints of the same last night.
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Chris Quartly on June 27, 2011, 09:20:31 am
That's about half a unit then Zoonster... Fosters, yuck! :P
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Bez on June 27, 2011, 10:12:38 am
a boozier weekend than I was planning...I'm at 137 for the month already with a days cricket to come... ::)
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: zoony on June 27, 2011, 21:41:32 pm
Quote from: Chris Quartly on June 27, 2011, 09:20:31 am
That's about half a unit then Zoonster... Fosters, yuck! :P


Probably why i never had a hangover then mate!
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Neillwith2Ls on June 30, 2011, 11:39:20 am
Off to the cinema tonight, so no alcohol... total for June is 106.9 units, with only 6 dry days - not bad considering I had my 40th birthday weekend in there somewhere! :P
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: dwtty on June 30, 2011, 20:21:44 pm
Quote from: Neillwith2Ls on June 30, 2011, 11:39:20 am
Off to the cinema tonight, so no alcohol... total for June is 106.9 units, with only 6 dry days - not bad considering I had my 40th birthday weekend in there somewhere! :P


You were 40!! And I always thought of you as a toy boy........oh dear....
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on July 01, 2011, 21:40:30 pm
June saw a return to more usual levels, with 106 units consumed. There were 18 dry days, and maximum daily intake was 13 units.
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: zoony on July 01, 2011, 21:57:33 pm
17 pints of lager, and 5 pints of cider in the last 8 days, which is really caning it for me! On an average month i'd say i only usually have 6-12 pints.
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: zoony on July 03, 2011, 09:06:52 am
Quote from: zoony on July 01, 2011, 21:57:33 pm
17 pints of lager, and 5 pints of cider in the last 8 days, which is really caning it for me! On an average month i'd say i only usually have 6-12 pints.


Getting worse, had 3 pints of Magners yesterday afternoon, then 8 pints of Stones in the evening. Suffering this morning as well!
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: BaldiePete on July 03, 2011, 19:08:51 pm
117.2 units in June with 14 dry days. That included a mate's 50th birthday, which bumped it up considerably. ::)
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Neillwith2Ls on September 02, 2011, 16:56:10 pm
August was my best ever result... something to do with having a baby halfway through the month! Never before have I scraped below the monthly 'recommended figure' (105ish units); a couple of times I managed 120/125. But in August 2011 I scored a healthy 86.9 units :)
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: BaldiePete on September 02, 2011, 21:09:03 pm
My 50th birthday in August along with a week off and a weekend in Oban means I slumped to 148 in August, my most of any month this year.
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on September 02, 2011, 21:45:24 pm
124 for me in August. Would have probably been about 100, but for a day out at the Cricket and a Bank Holiday :)
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Slim on September 02, 2011, 22:02:03 pm
I decided to take a week or so off toward the end of July, because I'd been feeling a bit rough from drinking too much and I was a bit troubled by my unhealthy appearance on the photos that emerged from Andy's birthday bash. I woke up 50 hours into my period of abstinence, at about 3AM, with awful withdrawal symptoms. That caused me to reevaluate my relationship with alcohol, and after taking another few days off and drying out, I've been operating a strict one day on, one day off policy, so I never drink on consecutive days.

I'm also trying (and have succeeded so far) to confine myself to no more than one vodka martini per evening, and no more than two beers. I probably drink at a rate of about 95 units per month.

This is really working out very nicely for me - it's cut my alcohol intake by more than half. I appreciate a beer or a martini all the more now, and I find I'm satisfied with less alcohol. I shall try to make it a permanent rule, now.
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Bez on October 03, 2011, 09:19:07 am
73 units for me in September and that includes a day at the cricket and CQ's leaving do at the Green Man. It helps not having had a drink for 3 weeks  ;)

I'm still ahead of 2010's running total though and I had a "good" end to the year last year....
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: BaldiePete on October 03, 2011, 17:21:13 pm
The summer months have been seen a load of drinking after a quiet start to the year. 145.3 in September and 26.5 already in October.  :o
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on October 03, 2011, 21:42:05 pm
115 for me in September. An average sort of month for me.
20.1 already in October.
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Pudders on October 04, 2011, 11:14:09 am
.....been in Belgium, enough said ::)
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Spud on October 05, 2011, 19:36:22 pm
 :D
Quote from: Pudders on October 04, 2011, 11:14:09 am
.....been in Belgium, enough said ::)
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Bez on November 05, 2011, 14:07:46 pm
87 in October including a week away....not bad at all, I'm only 50 units about my target for this time of the year, that's just 5 bottles of wine...

I fancy a bottle tonight to celebrate
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on November 05, 2011, 14:58:37 pm
129 for October.

Things are starting to creep up again.
Although I'm under target for six months, above for four, so it should be there or there abouts for the year.
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: BaldiePete on November 05, 2011, 16:14:38 pm
October was my largest consumption of the year so far at 154.4 units.  I had Eucon, two other Saturday nights out with friends and a couple of sneaky midweek sessions which added 80 units just by themselves.
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Andrew_Haldane on November 06, 2011, 08:16:28 am
I cant remember the last time I went out to the pub for a drink rather than for a meal My job has pretty much put paid to that. Id be surprised if Ive had more than 100 units all year
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Gman on November 06, 2011, 10:11:58 am
Quote from: BaldiePete on November 05, 2011, 16:14:38 pm
October was my largest consumption of the year so far at 154.4 units.  I had Eucon, two other Saturday nights out with friends and a couple of sneaky midweek sessions which added 80 units just by themselves.

To be fair Pete you were absolutely smashed at EuCon....then you had that fight,copped off with those 2 Lesbians and finally finished it off with a rendition of the "Have you seen my missing pussy".......probably used up 140 units that night at least ;) ::)

Gman 
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: BaldiePete on November 06, 2011, 17:22:07 pm
Quote from: Gman on November 06, 2011, 10:11:58 am
To be fair Pete you were absolutely smashed at EuCon....then you had that fight,copped off with those 2 Lesbians and finally finished it off with a rendition of the "Have you seen my missing pussy".......probably used up 140 units that night at least ;) ::)

Gman


Just a typical Saturday night really  ::)
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Bez on December 09, 2011, 13:09:04 pm
As of this morning I'm officially under my target consumption for the year to date, only by 0.1 of a unit, but under nevertheless...a feel a drink coming on tonight to celebrate.... ::)
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: BaldiePete on December 09, 2011, 13:27:39 pm
I improved to 116.6 in November which is my lowest since April. As of today I've had 6.6 units more this year than last (1457.7 v 1451.1) which wasn't really the plan for this year.  ::)  Never mind, I've lost 3 stone 12 pounds in weight while managing to drink the same amount of booze  ;D
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on December 10, 2011, 18:02:11 pm
I hit 114 units in November. That brings me to 1340 for the year, 20 above my target and probably about the same as I has last year. I've also lost 3 stone this year. Moral of the story, don't eat, drink. :)
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: zoony on December 11, 2011, 09:28:46 am
Do you guys record it down everytime you have a drink then?
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on December 11, 2011, 10:33:12 am
Not at the exact moment, but shortly after the event :)
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Bez on December 11, 2011, 20:13:26 pm
Quote from: zoony on December 11, 2011, 09:28:46 am
Do you guys record it down everytime you have a drink then?


yup ! This is my 4th year....I miss the odd one here and there, but I'm pretty accurate... ;)

Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: BaldiePete on December 11, 2011, 22:16:44 pm
I have the spreadsheet in my Startup folder so it opens every day when I switch on the PC.  I then just have to fill it on for the previous day's intake.
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: zoony on December 12, 2011, 05:03:19 am
I'd hate to see my calorie intake  :o ;).
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on December 12, 2011, 14:04:57 pm
Quote from: zoony on December 12, 2011, 05:03:19 am
I'd hate to see my calorie intake  :o ;).

I log that too :)

Might start logging my logs...
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Bez on January 03, 2012, 19:27:07 pm
Quote from: Bez on December 09, 2011, 13:09:04 pm
As of this morning I'm officially under my target consumption for the year to date, only by 0.1 of a unit, but under nevertheless...a feel a drink coming on tonight to celebrate.... ::)


Somewhat predictably I finished above target due to a couple of drunken days over Christmas... ::)

Annual total of 1475.4, (15 .4 over target) averaging 122.95 per month or 4.042 per day (just 0.042 above target). Not too bad...

I've amended my spreadsheet to take into account the extra day in Feb and messed around with the graphs.
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on January 03, 2012, 23:02:49 pm
December total: 180.1 Highest of the year by far!

Total for the year: 1520 which was 80 above target, that's 4.16 units per day. Which with most of my drinking being on Fri/Sat/Sun puts me firmly in the "Binge Drinker" category :)
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Andrew_Haldane on January 04, 2012, 02:23:32 am
Had a beer or two tonight ..... first time in a while. There is no doubt in my mind that were I to be kept in a steady permanently topped up state of mild to semi inebriation that I would be a far happier place to be
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: BaldiePete on January 06, 2012, 14:06:28 pm
Total for 2011 was 1580.1 which is 29 units more than last year  :P

Highest daily amounts were:

23 units on 12th May (Rush in Dublin)
23 units on 14th May (Rush in Glasgow)
20 units on 12th September (Silver Wedding Anniversary dinner)
20 units on 1st October (Eucon)
19 units on 21st May (Rush in Newcastle)

The conclusion - Rush and marriage are bad for your drinking health  ::)
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Bez on January 06, 2012, 21:28:46 pm
keep those totals rolling in chaps...I'm feeling better about myself all the time.... ;)
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: BaldiePete on January 06, 2012, 23:24:58 pm
Quote from: Bez on January 06, 2012, 21:28:46 pm
keep those totals rolling in chaps...I'm feeling better about myself all the time.... ;)


Yeah but I managed to lose 3.5 stones while still drinking more than in 2010.  Result ;D
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on January 06, 2012, 23:35:32 pm
Quote from: BaldiePete on January 06, 2012, 23:24:58 pm
Yeah but I managed to lose 3.5 stones while still drinking more than in 2010.  Result ;D

And I shed 3 stone :)

So why are you still a Big Bulky Bastard Bez?  :-*
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Bez on January 07, 2012, 00:05:07 am
Lost a stone and a half....only six to go..... ;)
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on January 07, 2012, 00:22:09 am
Quote from: Bez on January 07, 2012, 00:05:07 am
Lost a stone and a half....only six to go..... ;)

Well done that man, it's a start :)

I suspect I may have regained half a stone since Christmas, I don't want it confirming...

Xmas day saw my max daily units of 19.75 :)
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: BaldiePete on January 07, 2012, 01:03:24 am
Quote from: Nick Sims on January 07, 2012, 00:22:09 am
Well done that man, it's a start :)

I suspect I may have regained half a stone since Christmas, I don't want it confirming...

Xmas day saw my max daily units of 19.75 :)


You must have drunk more than that in Dublin.
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: zoony on January 07, 2012, 11:27:13 am
What with Bez, Pete, Simmers and SJSBRFC all wasting away, i will soon be the only fat bastard left on here!
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on January 07, 2012, 12:03:59 pm
Quote from: BaldiePete on January 07, 2012, 01:03:24 am
You must have drunk more than that in Dublin.

It was split between two days though.
I got through 18.6 on the thursday then 7.7 on the Friday.
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Neillwith2Ls on January 07, 2012, 13:59:24 pm
Bez, could I have an up to date version of your spreadsheetbwhen you get the chance? Ta!
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Bez on January 08, 2012, 16:33:15 pm
Quote from: Neillwith2Ls on January 07, 2012, 13:59:24 pm
Bez, could I have an up to date version of your spreadsheetbwhen you get the chance? Ta!


Sent to your hotmail addy...
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Neillwith2Ls on January 08, 2012, 17:06:32 pm
Quote from: Bez on January 08, 2012, 16:33:15 pm
Sent to your hotmail addy...


Cheers mate, appreciate it  :)
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Bez on January 09, 2012, 10:05:19 am
A "clarification" of the recommendations in the news today....MPs are recommending 2 alcohol free days per week, but not changing the maximum recommended intake per day from 3 - 4 for men, so a target of 21 units per week for men. This means that my personal target of 4 units per day averaged out over the year is too high. Quelle surprise  ::)

Although anyone who was interviewed on the radio this morning was as evasive as ever and refused to say what a safe level of consumption was....

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-16443240
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: NeilP on January 09, 2012, 13:37:04 pm
It's more than 4 units a day from the studies I've read
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: zoony on January 09, 2012, 20:29:33 pm
Had a good drink on boxing day as we had a family party at one of my b-in-laws, but since then i've had just one pint last tuesday.
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Analog RH on January 09, 2012, 21:28:00 pm
Thank feck I don't record my intake these days....... :'(
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Andy42g on January 09, 2012, 22:57:48 pm
I had 2 pints on Christmas Day.  Let myself down terribly.  ;)
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Chris Quartly on January 19, 2012, 14:27:23 pm
Bars are tremendously expensive here (+ tipping the bartender per drink...) so I suspect my intake will go down drastically this year!
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: NeilP on January 19, 2012, 15:37:44 pm
Quote from: Chris Quartly on January 19, 2012, 14:27:23 pm
Bars are tremendously expensive here (+ tipping the bartender per drink...) so I suspect my intake will go down drastically this year!


How much for a beer, short etc CQ?
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Chris Quartly on January 19, 2012, 16:54:38 pm
Unless you want to drink something like Bud Lite or Miller Lite (which are $5 or so each in most the bars I've been to so far), something relatively nice (Brooklyn lager isn't too bad) pints seem to be at least $7, plus $1 tip per-drink. And of course, the pints here are 20% smaller.

A shot of something half-decent is around $10. A bar we've been to a couple of times does an offer - can of PBR + a shot of whiskey for $5, but PBR is piss and the whiskey is battery acid, I'd rather pay a few dollars more!

And these are dives too, haven't hit any fancy bars yet... we haven't been anywhere with much of a selection either, but there are a few places on the radar we hope to check out, there's supposedly a good micro-brewery scene. So far we've been out with Carrie's brother a couple of times.
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: NeilP on January 19, 2012, 19:21:35 pm
I hope they're paying you well Chris?
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Chris Quartly on January 19, 2012, 19:27:25 pm
Should be ok, I'll get used to paying $5 for a loaf of bread eventually :P will be able to gauge things better once I start getting paid (still waiting for my social security number...) and know what my net income will be.
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: zoony on January 20, 2012, 09:21:04 am
Quote from: Chris Quartly on January 19, 2012, 16:54:38 pm
Unless you want to drink something like Bud Lite or Miller Lite (which are $5 or so each in most the bars I've been to so far), something relatively nice (Brooklyn lager isn't too bad) pints seem to be at least $7, plus $1 tip per-drink. And of course, the pints here are 20% smaller.

A shot of something half-decent is around $10. A bar we've been to a couple of times does an offer - can of PBR + a shot of whiskey for $5, but PBR is piss and the whiskey is battery acid, I'd rather pay a few dollars more!

And these are dives too, haven't hit any fancy bars yet... we haven't been anywhere with much of a selection either, but there are a few places on the radar we hope to check out, there's supposedly a good micro-brewery scene. So far we've been out with Carrie's brother a couple of times.


Surely it's not compulsary to tip the barman for EVERY drink is it?
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Andy42g on January 20, 2012, 09:27:16 am
Quote from: Chris Quartly on January 19, 2012, 16:54:38 pm
Unless you want to drink something like Bud Lite or Miller Lite (which are $5 or so each in most the bars I've been to so far), something relatively nice (Brooklyn lager isn't too bad) pints seem to be at least $7, plus $1 tip per-drink. And of course, the pints here are 20% smaller.

A shot of something half-decent is around $10. A bar we've been to a couple of times does an offer - can of PBR + a shot of whiskey for $5, but PBR is piss and the whiskey is battery acid, I'd rather pay a few dollars more!

And these are dives too, haven't hit any fancy bars yet... we haven't been anywhere with much of a selection either, but there are a few places on the radar we hope to check out, there's supposedly a good micro-brewery scene. So far we've been out with Carrie's brother a couple of times.

The times I've been in Manhattan the drinks prices in bars were always outrageous.
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Fishy on January 20, 2012, 09:38:02 am
Quote from: zoony on January 20, 2012, 09:21:04 am
Surely it's not compulsary to tip the barman for EVERY drink is it?


here's a good tip.. don't eat yellow snow...

see if they like that....
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: zoony on January 20, 2012, 09:59:33 am
Quote from: thefishy on January 20, 2012, 09:38:02 am
here's a good tip.. don't eat yellow snow...

see if they like that....


I'll tell you another one mate, never try to eat my food  ;).
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: NeilP on January 20, 2012, 12:31:02 pm
Quote from: Andy42g on January 20, 2012, 09:27:16 am
The times I've been in Manhattan the drinks prices in bars were always outrageous.


Always found a few around Greenwich Village and lower Manhattan to be reasonable if it's not a big session, posh is expensive tho
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Chris Quartly on January 20, 2012, 12:47:44 pm
Quote from: zoony on January 20, 2012, 09:21:04 am
Surely it's not compulsary to tip the barman for EVERY drink is it?


Essentially the etiquette is $1 per drink (or more if it's a complex one), it certainly seems a bit ridiculous!
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on January 20, 2012, 21:41:51 pm
Quote from: Chris Quartly on January 20, 2012, 12:47:44 pm
Essentially the etiquette is $1 per drink (or more if it's a complex one), it certainly seems a bit ridiculous!

When I was working in Chicago I didn't leave tips - well apart from rounding up to the nearest dollar. I just had to make sure to drink in a different bar every night...
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: NeilP on January 20, 2012, 22:00:28 pm
Tips to the service sector is just the way over there, a dollar is only 60p isn't it?
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: zoony on January 20, 2012, 22:02:20 pm
Quote from: NeilP on January 20, 2012, 22:00:28 pm
Tips to the service sector is just the way over there,


Are they on low wages then mate?
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: NeilP on January 20, 2012, 22:03:43 pm
they make a living on the tips I always thought, that's why they're generally so pleasant to punters
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: zoony on January 20, 2012, 22:05:48 pm
Quote from: NeilP on January 20, 2012, 22:03:43 pm
they make a living on the tips I always thought, that's why they're generally so pleasant to punters


I wouldn't know mate, I've never been there. Been served by some right miserable bastards in this country though!
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: BaldiePete on January 20, 2012, 22:12:10 pm
Quote from: zoony on January 20, 2012, 22:02:20 pm
Are they on low wages then mate?


The pay scales for worker in the service sector in the USA are terrible, something like £3 or £4 an hour, they rely on tips to make a decent living. By our standards the expected tip is very high, between 15% and 20% in a restaurant.
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on January 20, 2012, 23:33:15 pm
Quote from: NeilP on January 20, 2012, 22:00:28 pm
Tips to the service sector is just the way over there, a dollar is only 60p isn't it?

60p? That's 25% of the way to my next UK pint :)

It may well be that I tipped better than I claim - hey, it was the company's money - but if anybody greeted me with a "Hey, Bro!" that was a guaranteed no tip. "Like dude, we don't share a father"
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Chris Quartly on January 21, 2012, 17:29:16 pm
Yeah 15-20% tip is expected here (sales tax is 8.25% so handy tip is to just double that if it's on the receipt), the service in general is good, but you get a few people who seem to expect it as a given without really doing anything. The food here has been pretty good so far though.

Seems to be inconsistent with what you're supposed to do as well, in New Hampshire I was always told you only tip off the food bill and not the drinks, here it's off the total, and then there's the question of tipping pre or post tax. Takes some getting used to.
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: BaldiePete on March 01, 2012, 23:29:47 pm
My January total was 120.7 units and the February total was 153.2  :o (and that's in just 29 days). That wasn't helped by 19.3 units in Newcastle for the Rammstein gig on the last day of the month.  ::)  By this time last year I'd had a total of 152.9 for January and February combined. I must try and get the total down in March.
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on March 01, 2012, 23:33:00 pm
January 115.4
February 109.2

As against 115 and 104.4 for the two months last year. Hmmmm, an extra day in Feb, it seems I'm a creature of habit...
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Bez on March 02, 2012, 16:31:28 pm
40 in Jan & 110 in Feb....I'm a swat  ::)
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: NeilP on March 02, 2012, 22:21:58 pm
Far too many in both months I'm afraid, must cut back
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Andrew_Haldane on March 02, 2012, 23:33:08 pm
the trick is too drink till you puke
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: ianb on March 02, 2012, 23:45:58 pm
Quote from: Bisto on March 02, 2012, 23:33:08 pm
the trick is too drink till you puke


Nay sir... the trick is to play the 1 - 20 game and you will win the curry/pint/life etc etc... and that! ;) :-*
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Andrew_Haldane on March 03, 2012, 14:34:26 pm
 whatever

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Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: TerrBerr on March 22, 2012, 21:48:26 pm
 :o Five units in total so far for the month of March.  :o

That is set to change this weekend with Bravado doing ESL in Birkinhead and the after hours Chez Hard... ;D
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Analog RH on March 22, 2012, 22:55:05 pm
Quote from: TerrBerr on March 22, 2012, 21:48:26 pm
:o Five units in total so far for the month of March.  :o

That is set to change this weekend with Bravado doing ESL in Birkinhead and the after hours Chez Hard... ;D


Don't ya just know it......

;D
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Bez on October 18, 2012, 12:25:54 pm
Quote from: Bez on March 02, 2012, 16:31:28 pm
40 in Jan & 110 in Feb....I'm a swat  ::)


A quick update....

Mar - 82
Apr - 113
May  - 133
Jun - 150
Jul - 143
Aug - 76
Sep - 166

106 so far in Oct with a couple of boozy "dos" coming up....I'm currently under target for the year (1464), but will need a good finish to the year....
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Slim on October 18, 2012, 12:32:04 pm
I've knocked my one-day-on, one-day-off regime on the head now, however I'm happy to report that I'm still drinking pretty moderately. Those multiple-martini evenings are now a distant, hazy memory.
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Neillwith2Ls on October 18, 2012, 12:50:25 pm
Quote from: Bez on October 18, 2012, 12:25:54 pm
A quick update....

Mar - 82
Apr - 113
May  - 133
Jun - 150
Jul - 143
Aug - 76
Sep - 166

106 so far in Oct with a couple of boozy "dos" coming up....I'm currently under target for the year (1464), but will need a good finish to the year....


That's not bad going mate, considering you started very low in Jan/Feb too.

I'm not looking too bad, also just under target for the year with 1161.2 up to last night.

Jan - 92.8
Feb - 114
Mar - 121
Apr - 120.2
May - 103.6
Jun - 133.9
Jul - 140.6
Aug - 139.6
Sep - 152.3

October is looking a lot better, currently on 43.3 with nothing ominous on the horizon before month's end :D
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Neillwith2Ls on November 30, 2012, 10:23:26 am
October ended with my 'best' monthly score yet, 85.1 units. November is shaping up to be sensible too, with 96.5 units as of last night. Shame the month ends on a Friday though... but at least I'm not at the SS meet today, otherwise my graph would be spiking today! 1299 units to date, daily average of a shade over 3.5 which is about bang on target I think (or under, depending on whose advice you heed). Am glad I've had a few lean months before the blow-out of December...

My typical week consists of 4 days of zero intake (Mon - Thurs), with Friday and Saturday usually indulgent, with the occasional tipple on a Sunday. In October, 18 of 31 days were dry and for November it'll be 16 of the 30.

Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Andy42g on November 30, 2012, 10:56:19 am
Not had any alcohol for weeks. Really gone off the stuff again.
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Bez on November 30, 2012, 13:35:58 pm
I'm sitting at 86 before meeting up with folks from here later....another 20 or so today should see me under target for the month.... ::)
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: BaldiePete on November 30, 2012, 18:04:47 pm
Hmm, I'm not doing too well. I haven't come close to meeting my 100 units/month  target this year.

Up to 29th November:
Jan : 120.7
Feb : 153.2
Mar : 132.7
Apr : 132
May : 124.9
June : 116.2
Jul : 117.3
Aug : 148.2
Sep : 155.3
Oct : 141.5
Nov : 139.3

Peaks were 19.3 on 29th Feb (Rammstein gig), 21.3 on 23rd March (no recollection  ::)), 22.5 on 13th October (night before Rush gig in Toronto) and 22 on 17th November (weekend away with friends).

1622.8 units so far this year compared to 1436.7 at this time last year. Woops  :o

Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: pdw1 on November 30, 2012, 20:10:45 pm
You lot are beginning to sound like bloody Alcoholics Anonymous  >:(. I'm off for another glass of red wine  :-*
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: dwtty on November 30, 2012, 21:36:49 pm
Quote from: Bez on November 30, 2012, 13:35:58 pm
I'm sitting at 86 before meeting up with folks from here later....another 20 or so today should see me under target for the month.... ::)


We totalled up a students one nights binge consumption and it was 86 units in one go!!
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on November 30, 2012, 23:32:05 pm
Quote from: dwtty on November 30, 2012, 21:36:49 pm
We totalled up a students one nights binge consumption and it was 86 units in one go!!

I feel queasy just thinking about that!
I've never drunk more than 21 pints in a day. Well, not many more...

The year to date:

January 115
February 109
March 112
April 119
May 105
June 121
July 109
August 132
September 114
October 145
November 117

Target was 120 per month, so not too bad. Max daily intake 20.6 day before Rush in Toronto.
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Bez on December 01, 2012, 19:10:41 pm
My maths from last night makes a solid 9 pints of Becks at 2.3 a go, so 20.1 to add to the 96 I'd already drunk....not quite sure where I got the 86 from in my earlier post.... ::)
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: zoony on December 03, 2012, 21:10:13 pm
A couple of saturdays ago I had 4 pints of Shropshire lad ale, which is 4.4%, and 7 double Bacardi and cokes. That must be a fair amount, and I certainly knew about it on the following sunday morning!
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Andrew_Haldane on December 03, 2012, 22:40:52 pm
Quote from: Bez on December 01, 2012, 19:10:41 pm
My maths from last night makes a solid 9 pints of Becks at 2.3 a go, so 20.1 to add to the 96 I'd already drunk....not quite sure where I got the 86 from in my earlier post.... ::)


Becks? ...... You drink Becks?  :o Why would anyone put their taste buds through that?
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on December 03, 2012, 23:08:06 pm
Quote from: zoony on December 03, 2012, 21:10:13 pm
A couple of saturdays ago I had 4 pints of Shropshire lad ale, which is 4.4%, and 7 double Bacardi and cokes. That must be a fair amount, and I certainly knew about it on the following sunday morning!

That's about 24 units. Enough for a night.
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Bez on January 02, 2013, 13:25:28 pm
Totals for the year are calculated and it makes very similar reading to last year

Total - 1476.3 (1475.4 in 2011)
Daily average - 4.033 (4.042)
Monthly average  - 123.025 (122.95)

Highest month - October (177)
Lowest months  - January (39) & August (76)

Biggest daily total  - 30 (guestimate) on golf tour in July.

Longest spell without alcohol  : 12 days at the end of Jan.

3 of my highest monthly totals were Sept, Oct & Dec which included a golf trip to France, a trip to the Battlefields with Puds & NeilP, a holiday in Cornwall with Mrs B and a wedding in December + the usual parties and celebrations... ::)

Must do better this year and creep below target

Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Jonners on January 02, 2013, 13:57:31 pm
Had a totally dry Xmas due to getting the flu properly for the first time in my life, it felt like I had the worst hangover ever for about a week, which seems ironic considering...
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: zoony on January 02, 2013, 17:11:40 pm
Quote from: Jonners on January 02, 2013, 13:57:31 pm
Had a totally dry Xmas due to getting the flu properly for the first time in my life, it felt like I had the worst hangover ever for about a week, which seems ironic considering...


Ya big pussy  :P ;).
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Lynda on January 03, 2013, 07:17:19 am
Quote from: Bez on January 02, 2013, 13:25:28 pm


Longest spell without alcohol  : 12 days at the end of Jan.




What happened then, were you ill?
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: pdw1 on January 04, 2013, 14:50:37 pm
Bad news everyone: the optimum alcohol intake is 0.5 units per day
Alcohol message 'is confused'
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-20860584

at least as far as your health is concerned  ;)
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Matt2112 on January 04, 2013, 15:38:53 pm
Quote from: pdw1 on January 04, 2013, 14:50:37 pm
Bad news everyone: the optimum alcohol intake is 0.5 units per day
Alcohol message 'is confused'
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-20860584

at least as far as your health is concerned  ;)


And lots of salt is good for you when you take articles like this with it.  ;)
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: zoony on January 04, 2013, 15:39:57 pm
Eat and drink whatever makes you happy. We're all going to die one day.
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Bez on January 04, 2013, 19:33:51 pm
Quote from: Lynda on January 03, 2013, 07:17:19 am
What happened then, were you ill?


I usually have a "gentle" January....its normally scuppered by my BiL's birthday mid-month that means seeing the MiL....rarely can this be done without alcoholic support  ::)
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Lynda on January 05, 2013, 06:22:00 am
Quote from: Bez on January 04, 2013, 19:33:51 pm
I usually have a "gentle" January....its normally scuppered by my BiL's birthday mid-month that means seeing the MiL....rarely can this be done without alcoholic support  ::)


Completely understandable  ;)

Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: BaldiePete on January 05, 2013, 11:56:04 am
I appear to be getting boozier  :o  :(

Total - 1786 (1580.1 in 2011)
Daily average - 4.879 (4.329)
Monthly average  - 148.833 (131.675)

Highest month - December (163.2)
Lowest months  - June (116.2)  :o

Biggest daily total  - 22.5 (guestimate) on the night before the Rush gig in Toronto. It might explain why I felt like shit until mid-afternoon on the day of the gig.  ::)

Longest spell without alcohol  : 4 days, once in June and once in January.

I really am going to try and cut down this year.
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on January 05, 2013, 12:14:03 pm
I appear to be getting soberer :)

Total - 1469 (1521 in 2011)
Target for the year was 1440 (120 units a month)

Booziest Month - December 166.5 (180 in 2011)
I'd have topped last years December figure though if I hadn't come down with flu last weekend.

Lowest Month - May 106 (101 in Feb in 2011)

Biggest Daily Consumption 20.5 on both days before Rush in Toronto with Xmas day a close second on 20.2.
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Nicola B on January 07, 2013, 19:55:45 pm
None so far in January, being a DryAthlete in aid of CRUK.

Only day off will be January 18th... ;D
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Bez on January 01, 2014, 11:45:00 am
6 years of alcohol unit recording now complete - I've got enough figures now to do some statistical analysis on the annual trend :)

2013 was my best (lowest) year in terms of units consumed with 1437 at an average of 3.938 per day (under my target of 4)

Best month (as ever) was January with 48, worst month was July with 207 (3 days of golf tour contributed 75 units plus). 

Longest period without alcohol 22 days towards the end of March to the middle of April (I was ill and on anti-biotics)

Highest number of consecutive days with and alcoholic drink : 8 (February half term holiday to Cornwall)

Highest daily total : 32.5, May 18th (trip to Wembley to see Northampton lose in the play-off final and then on to a quiz at Mrs Bez's school)
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Andrew_Haldane on January 01, 2014, 13:05:40 pm
35.5 units yesterday over 13 hours and no hangover. Copious amount of vomiting and the shits but no hangover..I'm actually a little concerned by that
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: NeilP on January 01, 2014, 13:33:10 pm
I don't count atm but intend to cut back during the working week this year as part of my healthier living effort.... I'm so impressed by those on here who've managed to do w/o and feel so much better as a result
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Chris Quartly on January 01, 2014, 15:00:45 pm
I haven't been counting for a few years now but I'm pretty certain 2013 would have been my highest in some time, possible ever. A few really big binges isn't out of the ordinary but I'll usually have a drink or two at a gig so it really tots up.
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: BaldiePete on January 01, 2014, 18:54:51 pm
1740 units - 46 less than last year, but more than both 2011 and 2010 when I started recording this.

Best Month - July 114.2 units
Worst Month - May 162.8 units (Highland trip plus Rush tour)

I rarely drink vast amounts (highest daily number was 20.4 on the work Christmas night out) but I do drink a little quite often. Not to many 0's, the longest is just four days.
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on January 01, 2014, 20:47:37 pm
I appear to be getting Boozier :(

Total - 1551 (1469 in 2012)
Target for the year was 1440 (120 units a month)

Booziest Month - December 183 (166.5 in 2012)
Managed to sup more this December due to not getting flu.

Lowest Month - May 101 (106 in May in 2012)

Biggest Daily Consumption 23 at Eucon :)

Longest time between drinks, 4 days, which is most weeks unless I'm at a gig.
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Neillwith2Ls on January 03, 2014, 12:43:16 pm
I think I've got 4 years of continuosuly recording my units now. Thanks to Bez and his excellent spreadsheets!

I seem to be getting less boozier which is a good thing, probably down to having children... It's been a steady decrease too, from 2010 (1732.2 units) to 2011 (1555.7 units) to 2012 (1465.4 units), and 2013 is my best yet. Elena arrived August 2011, possibly explaining the drop of 176 units in the 2010/2011 period!

So in 2013 I consumed 1351.5 units, at an average of 112.6/month and 3.7/day - quite pleased with that.

Best month was November, with only 55.7 units, worst month was December with 164.6 units. This isn't too bad considering in 2010/2011 I was averaging between 130 and 145 units per month, and had worst months of 199 (2010) and 220 units (2011)! Back then, a good month was around 120 units; nowadays that's a bad month!

Highest daily total was Christmas Day (24.5 units... and I cooked the xmas dinner!), and longest period without alcohol was 11 consecutive days in November (my lowest month) due to illness.

Also had a 148 dry days this year, about 40% of the year which looks good to me. I averaged around 12 dry days per month, with my best month (November) being 17 days (non-consecutive) without any booze.

I think this year I will do a dry month (probably February ;D) to see how that affects my subsequent consumption.
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Andy42g on January 03, 2014, 16:02:06 pm
Quote from: Neillwith2Ls on January 03, 2014, 12:43:16 pm
So in 2013 I consumed 1351.5 units, at an average of 112.6/month and 3.7/day - quite pleased with that.
... I averaged around 12 dry days per month,

So that's 112 units in 18 days each month? Scary!
Did a bit of drinking over Xmas but probably had 112 units in the whole year. Back on the wagon now until the trip away in Feb.

Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on January 03, 2014, 21:41:36 pm
I've decided to try and cut back in January.
I'll try not to drink any wines stronger than 13% - not including Sherry and Port of course :)
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: NeilP on January 03, 2014, 23:21:12 pm
I wouldn't worry too much about this moderate drinking tbh.... 5 units a day for adult males has a 5% increased risk in mortality rate (this means 6300 deaths per million population against 6000) - ironically the same increase as for those who drink less than 8 units per week.... all about lifestyle and stress I suppose?
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on January 03, 2014, 23:51:35 pm
Well most of this supposed "safe" unit business is complete and utter bollocks. There's a lot more than just alcohol to factor into things.

A couple of hundred years back folk knocked back way more than we do today, but it was your smallpox, cholera, dysentery etc. that did for them waaaaayyyyy before the booze did.
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: NeilP on January 04, 2014, 00:06:08 am
just avoid the binges and you should be ok... smoking, weight issues, stress are the 'life shorteners' it seems
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on January 04, 2014, 00:13:25 am
Well being as binge drinking is defined as 8 units I'm a binge drinker - that's a Sherry aperitif and three good glasses of red wine.

Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: NeilP on January 04, 2014, 00:16:59 am
we all know that ain't binging
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on January 04, 2014, 00:27:31 am
NHS advice is that it is, the marker used by the NHS  and National Office of Statistics is drinking more than double the daily unit guidelines for alcohol in one session; that is more than double 3-4 units in one session for a man.

We all know what binge drinking really is, but the powers that be have to define it in such a way as to try and stop people properly binging. Probably.


Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: NeilP on January 04, 2014, 00:56:49 am
sounds like a metric to me
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: zoony on January 04, 2014, 10:47:06 am
Quote from: NeilP on January 04, 2014, 00:06:08 am
just avoid the binges and you should be ok... smoking, weight issues, stress are the 'life shorteners' it seems


It's all bollocks mate, every person is different. Some people smoke and drink all their lives and live to be a 100. Others live a so called healthy lifestyle and drop dead young or die of some horrible disease. Eat and drink what you want I say, we're all going to die eventually.
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Andy42g on January 05, 2014, 10:36:27 am
Quote from: zoony on January 04, 2014, 10:47:06 am
Eat and drink what you want I say ...

Well you would, given the amount you eat and drink.  ::)
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: zoony on January 06, 2014, 15:56:52 pm
Quote from: Andy42g on January 05, 2014, 10:36:27 am
Well you would, given the amount you eat and drink.  ::)


Oh yes.
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Night Flyer on January 06, 2014, 16:08:54 pm
I've watched on while you lot debate this and i gotta say i'm really pleased there is a genuine concern to address this amongst yourselves whether you've actually signed up to the measurements or not. It's really healthy. Personally i'd be shit scared of sticking my tuppence worth in, lest i face the truth, and i can learn a lot from a thread that makes me think more than i did before and it's  in a RUSH forum. Well great there's more than music here. For that i really mean it when i say 'Thank you'. I've looked again at where i'm at and i don't like it. You lot have made me reassess. I'm so glad this was shared.  :)
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Bez on January 06, 2014, 21:30:07 pm
Quote from: Night Flyer on January 06, 2014, 16:08:54 pm
I've watched on while you lot debate this and i gotta say i'm really pleased there is a genuine concern to address this amongst yourselves whether you've actually signed up to the measurements or not. It's really healthy. Personally i'd be shit scared of sticking my tuppence worth in, lest i face the truth, and i can learn a lot from a thread that makes me think more than i did before and it's  in a RUSH forum. Well great there's more than music here. For that i really mean it when i say 'Thank you'. I've looked again at where i'm at and i don't like it. You lot have made me reassess. I'm so glad this was shared.  :)


I can e-mail you a spreadsheet to track your intake if you like....ARH described it as 'evil' after a week of completing it a few years back... ;)

Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Straight Shooter on January 09, 2014, 14:10:16 pm
Due to being on painkillers for most of last year, I think all I had was 2 glasses of 'perry' which came as a freebie on a weekend hotel-break.

Tbh though, I rarely 'drink' anyway, so it wasn't really a hardship!  :)
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Bez on January 07, 2015, 20:50:20 pm
7 years of recording now complete....I may miss the odd unit here and there, but I'm pretty good at keeping a reasonably accurate tally....

The year in numbers:

Total : 1414 (down from 1928 when I started recording)
Average per day : 3.88
Best Month : Jan - 45
Worst month : Dec  - 172
Longest "dry" spell : 11 days (November into December) & 10 (the start of January)
Most consecutive days with a drink : 11 (July - Aug on holiday)
Highest daily total : 32 - Dec 29th. 3 bottles of red and 2 pints of lager
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: BaldiePete on January 07, 2015, 21:11:18 pm
Total : 1516.1
Average per Day : 4.15
Best Month : November - 54.6 (viral infection plus Anne was in hospital after her knee operation)
Worst Month : May - 186.7 (Heavy drinking in the Lake District plus RushFest Scotland)
Longest "dry" spell : 6 days (again in November)
Most Consecutive days with a drink : 12 (Christmas)
Highest Daily Total : 20.1 (RushFest Scotland)
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on January 08, 2015, 23:23:47 pm
Here are the scores from the Chesterfiield Jury:

Yearly Total: 1,447
Best month: December 160.5
Worst Month: September 100
Longest dry spell: 4 days (most weeks, I'm a weekend binge drinker)
Longest Wet spell: 10 days in August, holiday time
Highest daily total: 18, Christmas Day, hoorah for religious celebrations.
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Neillwith2Ls on January 26, 2015, 15:43:25 pm
7 consecutive years here too, thanks for all the spreadsheets Bez! I don't even need to ask now ;)

Yearly Total: 1326.7
Best Month: October (94.5)
Worst Month: July (157.8)
Longest Dry Spell: 7 days in early/mid December (tonsillitis, anti-biotics ::))
Longest Wet Spell: 19 days, June - July (holiday, followed by 2 weeks at home alone including back-to-back outdoor gigs ::))
Highest Daily Total: 19.1 units (staff xmas party 8))
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Neillwith2Ls on January 26, 2015, 15:47:58 pm
Quote from: Neillwith2Ls on January 03, 2014, 12:43:16 pm
I think this year I will do a dry month (probably February ;D) to see how that affects my subsequent consumption.


I didn't, scored 95.3 units instead 8)
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Bez on January 01, 2016, 19:36:03 pm
8 years of recording now complete....as I said last year, I may miss the odd unit here and there, but I'm pretty good at keeping a reasonably accurate tally....

The year in numbers:

Total : 1460 (upfrom last year, but just about to target of 4 units per day)
Average per day : 4
Best Month : Jan - 37
Worst month : Jun  - 168 (golf tour and a day at cricket accounted for over 110 of that)
Longest "dry" spell : 16 days at the start of January
Most consecutive days with a drink : 8 (August summer hols)
Highest daily total : 28 at the cricket in June
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on January 01, 2016, 23:12:25 pm
Here are the scores from the Chesterfiield Jury:

Yearly Total: 1,461 - slightly up on last year.
Best month: December 150
Worst Month: March 99
Longest dry spell: 4 days (most weeks, I'm a weekend binge drinker)
Longest Wet spell: 7 days in August, holiday time
Highest daily total: 18, Christmas Day, hoorah for religious celebrations.
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: BaldiePete on January 01, 2016, 23:31:06 pm
Yearly Total : 1568.9 (it keeps going up :o )
Best Month : September (156.5). It was 114.8 on the morning of 28th September. Then I went to see Steven Wilson at RAH with Dixkot.
Worst Month : April (84.5). No idea why.
Longest Dry : four days, six times.
Longest wet : 11 days in December. That one hasn't actuall finished yet ;)
Highest Daily Total : 22. September 28th, first night of Steven Wilson at RAH. Most of that was post gig when Richard was pouring insanely large drams of Glenlivet.
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: NeilP on January 01, 2016, 23:53:08 pm
I don't keep a record but I'm pretty sure it's much higher than those published... need to cut it back a fair bit I think
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: zoony on January 02, 2016, 12:25:10 pm
I don't keep a record either, but I'm confident it would be nowhere near the total of the ones who do.
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Analog RH on January 02, 2016, 15:22:00 pm
Glad I don't record mine. Scores would be terrifying.
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Nick on January 02, 2016, 18:25:04 pm
Dry January lasted 1 day!!
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: BaldiePete on January 02, 2016, 19:20:00 pm
Quote from: Analog Rockin' Hard on January 02, 2016, 15:22:00 pm
Glad I don't record mine. Scores would be terrifying.


I think you'd break the spreadsheet.
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Neillwith2Ls on January 14, 2016, 15:56:47 pm
Bit late to the party on this...

8th year for me like Bez, here are the scores on the doors for 2015:

Total : 1359 (a little up from 2014, which was 1326.7)
Average per day : 3.72
Best Month : February, 85.3
Worst month : December, 142 - Christmas.
Longest "dry" spell : 5 days (and loads of Mon-Thurs 4 days dry spells)
Most consecutive days with a drink : 20 (2 week summer holiday, bookended with 2 weekends...)
Highest daily total : 20.4 (staff Christmas party in December)
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: TerrBerr on January 15, 2016, 11:04:42 am
I tried keeping the spreadsheet one year, but failed. How the heck do you guys keep track of what you've drunk when you're on a bender? Like the large drams of glenlivet after RAH? How do you estimate the units or even how many of the drams were had?

I'll try again this year - Bez, hit me with a spreadsheet. It should be easier to keep this year. I am actually on a quest to cut down. I've pledged not to drink until a certain wedding in Scotland in February this year. Then after that not drinking until holiday in March in Tenerife.
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Bez on January 15, 2016, 11:52:00 am
I usually base it on "rounds" if I'm at the pub....i don't do shorts, so estimates around wine are based on percentages of bottles - more often than not whole numbers ;)

If I'm at home I put my empty bottles in a specific place and count them afterwards to confirm my "mental" tally that I keep as i drink...

Sometimes i resort to entering into my phone if i realise I'm getting too pissed to count (or care)....;)

I'll sort a spreadsheet out at the weekend x
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Jonners on January 15, 2016, 11:54:10 am
Are people doing this for health reasons, curiosity reasons, or for bragging rights?
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Bez on January 15, 2016, 11:56:32 am
Quote from: Jonners on January 15, 2016, 11:54:10 am
Are people doing this for health reasons, curiosity reasons, or for bragging rights?


Originally for health reasons for me...i have gout & osteoarthritis, so get asked by doctors every time I go how much alcohol I drink...its nice to be able to show them the spreadsheet to shut them up...

Now its just a habit ;)
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: BaldiePete on January 15, 2016, 14:31:19 pm
Initially it was curiosity and now it's habit. I can't guarantee the accuracy of my data when I've had a few but it's usually possible to make a decent guess.
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: BaldiePete on January 01, 2017, 17:02:15 pm
Yearly Total : 1574 (5 more than last year but well within the margin of error)
Average per day : 4.31
Average per week : 30.26
Best Month : 161.7 (December)
Worst Month : 75.6 (June)
Longest Dry : 5 days (only one plus a few four day drys)
Highest Daily : 27 (Dods wedding in February and there was a lot of guesswork in this one. Free champagne was flowing from 12 noon).
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on January 01, 2017, 23:37:19 pm
My yearly total came in at 1419, that's down about 50 on last year.
I set a monthly limit of 120 units and came in under that every month bar two.

Best Month: 175 (December)
Worst Month: 95.6 (June)
Longest dry spell: 4 days, most weeks.
Highest Daily: 22 on the 22nd December on the work's Xmas do.

Seems to me I spend most of my life filling in spreadsheets. It's an occupational hazard being an Accountant, then there's the drinking, the calorie intake, the calorirs burned the cycling etc. etc.
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Bez on January 02, 2017, 00:06:49 am
Annual total : 1197 (down 260 on last year)
Monthly average : 99.775
Daily average : 3.31  - well inside the government target
"Best" month : 176 in June. Golf tour and a trip to the cricket...I could have copied and pasted from last year  :D
"Worst" month : 58 in Jan
Most consecutive dry days :10 in Decmeber
Most consecutive wet days : 11 in April on hols in the Canaries
Highest single day : 28  - wedding in Devon
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Matt2112 on January 02, 2017, 09:53:35 am
Lucky if I have more than 8 units a week nowadays...2 tins of Kronenbourg finishes me off at the end of a long day.  Parenthood, eh? :)
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Neillwith2Ls on January 04, 2017, 16:25:45 pm
Can't seem to stop doing this now, it's like a compulsive disorder for me! My usual routine is to fill the spreadsheet in daily, so weekends are trickier but manageable as it's only 3 day's worth to remember. But I now keep notes on my phone to record units whilst I'm away on holiday or with work (and away from my work desk, where the spreadsheet is kept); quite sad really!

9th year of doing this for me, here are the scores on the doors for 2016:

Total : 1529 (a big 12% swing up from 2015, which was 1359)
Average per day : 4.19
Best Month : February, 83.5
Worst month : December, 163.7 - Christmas.
Longest dry spell : 4 days
Most consecutive wet days: 9 (summer holiday)
Highest daily total : 17.5 (staff Christmas party in December... again)

Observations:

- too many weekdays having a drink in the evening
- too many months (7) over the recommended limit
- my three highest scoring months, coincide with my three trips to Spain
- a work conference in Las Vegas for a week didn't help either
- I was on track until around week 45 (just before I went to Vegas...)
- my xmas staff party intake was down 3.1 units on last year (little victories...)
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: The Letter R on January 04, 2017, 17:01:16 pm
Are you sure you are all counting actual units not pints - I worked out from 4 pints Monday I had done 10 units and that wasn't even a proper pre/post match drink-up - am getting worried now :-/ - a usual footie day would probably be 8-10 pints.......am a bit  worried about factoring the cost into this too........ :-X
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: NeilP on January 04, 2017, 19:07:45 pm
I don't count mine, or should I say communicate the assessment on chat rooms
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on January 04, 2017, 20:19:54 pm
Quote from: The Letter R on January 04, 2017, 17:01:16 pm
Are you sure you are all counting actual units not pints

Yes.
I note the volume of alcoholic beverage imbibed and the alcoholic strength of said beverage to calculate my total. Most of my drinking is done at home, so the alcoholic strength used is correct. The quantity is also bang on if I am drinking bottle beer and if I have a glass of Port or Sherry - the glass is filled - sharing a bottle of wine with the wife is slightly different, but two 125ml glasses tend to send her to sleep so I reckon on 500ml per bottle for me.

Drinking outside of home is a bit hazier, but as far as possible I can recall quantities drunk and what beers they were which means I can look up their strength on the internet :)
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Bez on January 04, 2017, 22:33:03 pm
Quote from: Nïckslïkk2112 on January 04, 2017, 20:19:54 pm
Yes.
I note the volume of alcoholic beverage imbibed and the alcoholic strength of said beverage to calculate my total. Most of my drinking is done at home, so the alcoholic strength used is correct. The quantity is also bang on if I am drinking bottle beer and if I have a glass of Port or Sherry - the glass is filled - sharing a bottle of wine with the wife is slightly different, but two 125ml glasses tend to send her to sleep so I reckon on 500ml per bottle for me.

Drinking outside of home is a bit hazier, but as far as possible I can recall quantities drunk and what beers they were which means I can look up their strength on the internet :)


Yes as well....

I'm good at keeping track of rounds...I know the units for most lagers / wines (if its a new one I check it out afterwards) which are pretty much all I drink....I aslo tend to kkepp a running total throughout an evening in case I lose count later

I record mine on the spreadsheet as soon after as I can and, like Neill, record using my phone when on hols...I have notes going back years !
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Bez on January 04, 2017, 22:34:27 pm
Quote from: Neillwith2Ls on January 04, 2017, 16:25:45 pm

Total : 1529 (a big 12% swing up from 2015, which was 1359)
Average per day : 4.19



:o

Your highest daily total indicates that you drink on far more days than i do !
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Neillwith2Ls on January 06, 2017, 16:45:03 pm
Quote from: Nïckslïkk2112 on January 04, 2017, 20:19:54 pm
Yes.
I note the volume of alcoholic beverage imbibed and the alcoholic strength of said beverage to calculate my total. Most of my drinking is done at home, so the alcoholic strength used is correct. The quantity is also bang on if I am drinking bottle beer and if I have a glass of Port or Sherry - the glass is filled - sharing a bottle of wine with the wife is slightly different, but two 125ml glasses tend to send her to sleep so I reckon on 500ml per bottle for me.

Drinking outside of home is a bit hazier, but as far as possible I can recall quantities drunk and what beers they were which means I can look up their strength on the internet :)


Exactly that. After 9 years, we've got good systems in place :)

Drinking at home makes it easier too; you can go through the recycling bin and grab the units/ABV quantities off the side of the bottles/tins! ;)

I like the annual visits to this thread now, no-one tends to judge or comment; it's just fringe bit of fun associated with the slightly more serious matter of watching what you drink.
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Neillwith2Ls on January 06, 2017, 16:47:38 pm
Quote from: Bez on January 04, 2017, 22:34:27 pm
:o

Your highest daily total indicates that you drink on far more days than i do !


Yeah, I noticed that too... in 2016 I spent more weekday evenings just having a bottle of beer watching TV (a habit I need to get out of). I used to maintain a pretty good regime of no alcohol Mon - Thurs, then binge drinking Fri - Sun ;) My monthly graph would look like a flight of steps!
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Bez on January 08, 2017, 23:18:31 pm
Quote from: Neillwith2Ls on January 06, 2017, 16:47:38 pm
Yeah, I noticed that too... in 2016 I spent more weekday evenings just having a bottle of beer watching TV (a habit I need to get out of). I used to maintain a pretty good regime of no alcohol Mon - Thurs, then binge drinking Fri - Sun ;) My monthly graph would look like a flight of steps!


I just counted up my units for Sat (spent celebrating Pudders' birthday in Witney....that's certainly put a dent in my monthly alloweance...
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Neillwith2Ls on January 09, 2017, 11:45:14 am
Quote from: Bez on January 08, 2017, 23:18:31 pm
I just counted up my units for Sat (spent celebrating Pudders' birthday in Witney....that's certainly put a dent in my monthly alloweance...


And we have an SS meet on 4th Feb to consider  ;D
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Bez on January 09, 2017, 14:26:44 pm
Quote from: Neillwith2Ls on January 09, 2017, 11:45:14 am
And we have an SS meet on 4th Feb to consider  ;D


Different month  ;)
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Bez on January 10, 2018, 08:11:07 am
Annual stats for 2017 completed this morning....

Annual total : 1302 (up 105 on last year)
Monthly average : 108.5
Daily average : 3.56  - inside my target of 4, but up on last year
"Best" month : 159 in July. Battlefields tour with Pudders and summer holiday
"Worst" month : 81 in Jan 7 Oct
Most consecutive dry days :12 in January - early February
Most consecutive wet days : 13 in July - Aug, summer hols
Highest single day : 27.2  - Pudders birthday in Witney in January.

Pudders seems to appear twice in the summary, I think I need a new mate....
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: The Letter R on January 10, 2018, 08:26:42 am
Saturday should start the year off well  ;D
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Bez on January 10, 2018, 08:38:36 am
25 last Sat while with Puds....more to come this weekend
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Slim on January 10, 2018, 11:49:50 am
I'm a moderate drinker these days but I must admit I hammered it over the hols. In the period from Xmas Eve to New Year's Eve I managed a bottle of Jim Beam, a bottle of some single malt I've forgotten the name of (it was a present), a half bottle of Glenlivet, six or seven 330ml bottles of beer, a few glasses of wine and about half a bottle of Baileys.

Oh yes and a pint (I'd actually ordered a half) of some sort of amber ale product at a pub in Ashby, which unusually, I found quite pleasant.

Back to rather moderate drinking again now. A small port in the afternoon occasionally, and a couple of San Miguels at the weekend.
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: DavidL on January 10, 2018, 13:50:24 pm
I had a relatively 'dry' Xmas myself. Had around five pints on both the Friday before Xmas and Xmas Eve. On Xmas day none passed my lips as I had to drive. Boxing Day at the in-laws, I consumed four bottles of Timothy Taylor Landlord but tbh it was hard work and not that enjoyable. The thing is, I'm not one for drinking at home. I received a couple of bottles of Hobgoblin from the local brewery as a Xmas present but they'll probably go unopened for months (in fact, last week I had to chuck a bottle of Leffe and a bottle of Timmy Taylor as they were beyond the 'consume by' date).
I just don't enjoy drinking, unless it's in a pub - any pub! There's something about the environment that allows me to really enjoy alcohol in a pub setting, probably the social aspect. There's a joy in chatting to others whilst getting slowly inebriated that both me and the Mrs really appreciate. I can't imagine I'd be interested in doing the same without the company of an alcoholic beverage somehow. I'm probably socially deficient in some way  :-\
As for counting units, it would probably detract from my enjoyment, suffice to say, it would probably indicate that I am a classic binge-drinker, although I rarely get hammered. Seven pints would be a 'big night' but would be incident-free (probably write-off the following day though!).
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Matt2112 on January 10, 2018, 14:16:50 pm
This sums my situation up nowadays: when some friends came over for dinner on Saturday 23rd December I bought 8 tins of Kronenbourg for myself; there are 2 of those still stood unopened in the fridge.  :-\
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: captainkurtz on January 10, 2018, 14:46:57 pm
None passed my lips, but I got through a packet of Rizlas!
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Nick on January 10, 2018, 18:16:32 pm
I probably have 2 gins every night at home with only the odd day off. Not sure if that's a problem. Don't go out binge drinking in pubs though.
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: BaldiePete on January 11, 2018, 00:30:47 am

As a gentleman of leisure, I appear to have turned into an alcoholic  :o  Rather than more binges there seems to have been more small drinks, a bottle of beer, a whisky or a glass of wine in the evening. Determined to get this down below 1500 this year. Watch this space ...

Yearly Total : 1834 (260 more than last year  :-\  )
Average per day : 5.03
Average per week : 35.27
'Best' Month : 168.4 (November)
'Worst Month' : 115 (Both August & September )

Longest Dry : 5 days (only one plus a few four day drys)
Highest Daily : 30 (Scotland v All Blacks all day session with Pricey and his mates. This may actually be an underestimate !).
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Bez on January 11, 2018, 23:01:22 pm
Quote from: BaldiePete on January 11, 2018, 00:30:47 am

Highest Daily : 30 (Scotland v All Blacks all day session with Pricey and his mates. This may actually be an underestimate !).


Love the optimism in this sentence....
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: The Letter R on January 12, 2018, 08:33:25 am
Worryingly we're not half way through January and I've already lost count........ :-\
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Bez on January 12, 2018, 09:22:46 am
Quote from: The Letter R on January 12, 2018, 08:33:25 am
Worryingly we're not half way through January and I've already lost count........ :-\


35.9 for me... ;D
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Neillwith2Ls on January 12, 2018, 14:44:36 pm
10th year of doing this for me, here are the scores on the doors for 2017:

Total : 1457.9; still high, but 5% (71.1) down on 2016
Average per day : 3.99 (target of 4)
Monthly Average : 121.5
Best Month : March, 84.5
Worst month : December, 190.7 - Christmas, office party etc.
Longest dry spell : 4 days
Most consecutive wet days: 20 (summer holiday)
Highest daily total : 22.9 (staff Christmas party in December... again)

Observations:

- my Mon-Thu dry rule slipped; Thursdays seem to have become the new Friday..
- less months over target (4) than 2016 (7)
- I drink everyday whilst in Spain, but moderately
- I finished 2.1 units under my annual target; less than a pint of crap lager!
- my xmas staff party intake was up 5.4 units on last years

When I started doing this, the NHS recommended alcohol intake was 3-4 units per day for a male (less for a female). This has since been revised, down to 14 units per week regardless of sex https://www.nhs.uk/Livewell/alcohol/Pages/alcohol-units.aspx That's basically halving my previous daily target of 4... a tall order.

January hasn't commenced too well, I was in Spain until 8th, and have a Southern Softie meet tomorrow in London.
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Neillwith2Ls on January 12, 2018, 14:50:37 pm
Quote from: Bez on January 12, 2018, 09:22:46 am
35.9 for me... ;D


47 for me... although you may have nearly caught me up by the time I get to The Ship tomorrow ;)
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Bez on January 12, 2018, 23:42:09 pm
Quote from: Neillwith2Ls on January 12, 2018, 14:50:37 pm
47 for me... although you may have nearly caught me up by the time I get to The Ship tomorrow ;)


Depends how thirsty Keith is...
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on January 13, 2018, 21:32:07 pm
Total for last year: 1404 down 14 on 2016
Best Month: December 161
Worst Month: November 98
Longest Dry Spell: 4 days (Most weeks) I'm a Weekend Binger!
Highest Daily: 16, Easter Sunday, gotta enjoy these religious days :)
Wettest spell: 5 days, in a few months.

I'm just a regular weekend booze kinda guy...
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: zoony on January 14, 2018, 07:43:47 am
I take it you guys must write down and keep a record of this then?
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on January 14, 2018, 08:51:52 am
Absolutely :)

Dedicated spreadsheet for alcohol consumption.
Dedicated spreadsheet for calorie consumption.
Dedicated spreadsheet for calories burned cycling.
Dedicated spreadsheet calculating how many chocolate digestives I can eat as a result of calories burned cycling :)
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: döm on January 15, 2018, 13:31:31 pm
There's probably apps for the phone I would imagine.  You could log as you sip
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Pricey on January 15, 2018, 17:19:15 pm
Quote from: Bez on January 11, 2018, 23:01:22 pm
Love the optimism in this sentence....



It was a mega session alright , great fun though , also the way we attempted not to have a pint "too early" but failed
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: BaldiePete on January 15, 2018, 19:10:10 pm
Quote from: Pricey on January 15, 2018, 17:19:15 pm

It was a mega session alright , great fun though , also the way we attempted not to have a pint "too early" but failed



We'd only been on the booze for about an hour when Pricey had his Platoon moment.  ;D



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Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Pricey on January 16, 2018, 21:30:53 pm
Whatta day ! Whatta pic !
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Neillwith2Ls on January 19, 2018, 14:22:32 pm
https://www.facebook.com/bbc/videos/1428985767210587/
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Neillwith2Ls on January 03, 2019, 16:59:46 pm
My 11th year of doing this, very similar to last year. Here are 2018 numbers:

Total : 1457.9; still high, 0.7% down on 2017 (10.3 units less than last year - consistent!)
Average per day : 3.96 (target of 4)
Monthly Average : 120.6
Best Month : February, 83.3
Worst month : December, 194.4 (Christmas, NYE, office party etc)
Longest dry spell : 5 days
Most consecutive wet days: 19 (summer holiday)
Highest daily total : 18 (New Year's Eve, at least it wasn't the staff office party for the 3rd consecutive year)

Observations:

- very little change from 2017
- lots less wet Thursday's, my Mon-Thurs. dry rule held better than 2017
- same number of months over target (4) as 2017
- I still drink everyday whilst in Spain, but moderately
- December still (by a long margin) the booziest month
- my xmas staff party intake was down 5.7 units on last years

No Spain this January, so I'm off to a sensible start for 2019... let's see how long this lasts!
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: BaldiePete on January 03, 2019, 19:08:09 pm
Quote from: BaldiePete on January 11, 2018, 00:30:47 am
As a gentleman of leisure, I appear to have turned into an alcoholic  :o  Rather than more binges there seems to have been more small drinks, a bottle of beer, a whisky or a glass of wine in the evening. Determined to get this down below 1500 this year. Watch this space ...

Yearly Total : 1834 (260 more than last year  :-\  )
Average per day : 5.03
Average per week : 35.27
'Best' Month : 168.4 (November)
'Worst Month' : 115 (Both August & September )

Longest Dry : 5 days (only one plus a few four day drys)
Highest Daily : 30 (Scotland v All Blacks all day session with Pricey and his mates. This may actually be an underestimate !).



Well that didn't turn out totally as planned but I suppose it is a bit less  ::)


Yearly Total : 1719
Average per day : 4.71
Average per week : 33
'Best' Month : 168.4 (November drinking with Pricey again - twice !!)
'Worst' Month : 89.4 (The closest I'll ever get to a dry January)
Longest Dry : 6 days
Highest Daily : 28 - Rugby with Pricey again. Lot of guesswork here as there was a lot of whisky being drunk from hip flasks.



Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on January 03, 2019, 19:48:49 pm
Quote from: Nïckslïkk2112 on January 13, 2018, 21:32:07 pm
Total for last year: 1404 down 14 on 2016
Best Month: December 161
Worst Month: November 98
Longest Dry Spell: 4 days (Most weeks) I'm a Weekend Binger!
Highest Daily: 16, Easter Sunday, gotta enjoy these religious days :)
Wettest spell: 5 days, in a few months.

I'm just a regular weekend booze kinda guy...

Total for last year: 1405 up 1 on 2017
Best Month: December 179
Worst Month: October 95
Longest Dry Spell: 4 days (Most weeks) I'm a Weekend Binger!
Highest Daily: 19, Christmas day, gotta enjoy these religious days :)
Wettest spell: 12 days, in December, didn't manage a post Xmas break.

I'm just a regular weekend booze kinda guy and complete creature of habit...
Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Bez on January 04, 2019, 15:50:50 pm
Got round to totalising and producing new spreadsheets this afternoon....

Annual stats for 2017....

Annual total : 1441 (up 129 on last year, which was up 105 on the year before....)
Monthly average : 120.1
Daily average : 3.94  - inside my target of 4 (just), but up on last year
"Best" month : 170 in May. Golf tour earlier than usual
"Worst" month : 73 in Nov
Most consecutive dry days :10 in February after annual trip to Cornwall. Gout attack!
Most consecutive wet days : 7 in Aug, summer hols & Late Oct into early Nov. Autumn half term
Highest single day : 25.1  - Pudders' birthday, in Witney in January.

Title: Re: Alcohol Units
Post by: Pricey on January 08, 2019, 12:56:22 pm
ahh sorry misread your post below - this years trip was a blinder !


I was nicely lubricated I seem to recall ...




Quote from: BaldiePete on January 03, 2019, 19:08:09 pm

Well that didn't turn out totally as planned but I suppose it is a bit less  ::)


Yearly Total : 1719
Average per day : 4.71
Average per week : 33
'Best' Month : 168.4 (November drinking with Pricey again - twice !!)
'Worst' Month : 89.4 (The closest I'll ever get to a dry January)
Longest Dry : 6 days
Highest Daily : 28 - Rugby with Pricey again. Lot of guesswork here as there was a lot of whisky being drunk from hip flasks.