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Events / Re: What's in your Gig Diary 2018
« Last post by Phil on December 11, 2018, 08:44:38 AM »


10th Dec - Von Hertzen Brothers  - Wedgewood Rooms, Southsea - 8/10.

Points deducted for Mikko's shot voice, points added for Kie's funny faces and daft hat.
Set contained a marvellous triple whammie of Long Lost Sailor/Sunday Child/Coming Home. Ace
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General Chat - English / Re: Brexit watch
« Last post by DavidL on December 11, 2018, 08:27:20 AM »
I suspect that if she can get some movement from Brussels on the matter of us having to get permission from the EU to leave a "backstop" that she would feel that would be enough to hold the vote....
Ceding control of the backstop arrangement in that way would be quite a climb down from the EU. I don't think Varadkar would allow it. Their responsibility is to Ireland. I do agree though that it would probably be enough.
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General Chat - English / Re: Brexit watch
« Last post by Bez on December 11, 2018, 07:41:42 AM »

She's going to go back to Brussels, and insist that they concede ground on the "backstop" nonsense. Ironically, losing the vote in the Commons would have given her a stronger hand there.
But I think she's bought herself a bit more time. One possibility is that she thinks that losing the vote would provoke a few more letters to Graham Brady, and perhaps he's even had a quiet word and told her she can only afford another two or three.
On the other hand - forcing a leadership election could be a dangerous gamble for them, because under party rules she couldn't be forced into another one for another year if it fails.
There's some talk of a vote of no confidence in the government being called. She wouldn't lose that. None of the rebel Tory MPs, nor our good friends in the DUP would play the opposition parties' game on that one. Forcing a general election is no easy matter; under the Fixed Term Parliaments act a two-thirds majority in the Commons is needed.


I suspect that if she can get some movement from Brussels on the matter of us having to get permission from the EU to leave a "backstop" that she would feel that would be enough to hold the vote....
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Events / Re: The Magpie Salute
« Last post by Bez on December 11, 2018, 07:37:57 AM »
If I can convince him Beardy and I will probably start off earlier in the Ice Wharf (Whetherspoons) which is a 4 minute walk from the venue and meet everyone else in the Earl of Camden (Parkway) a bit later (to avoid buying expensive rounds 😉) which is a 3 minute walk from the venue. From memory it's always crowded in the Ice Wharf but cheap👍and I will need to eat before the gig, am guessing Dan will too. Don't know how busy the Earl of Camden is, food is probably better but I'm not expecting or paying for a Michelin star experience😉

 :)
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General Chat - English / Re: Brexit watch
« Last post by Bez on December 11, 2018, 07:37:10 AM »
Whatever the outcome a vote of no confidence looks almost inevitable with yet another coalition looking the most likely outcome; this time, possibly, with the SNP siding with Labour and perhaps even the LibDems...it might even prove to be a good short term tactical outcome for the Tories; get rid of weak leadership, regroup, consolidate, be the opposition that Labour have abjectly failed to be and in all probability coast to a landslide victory within the next four years and, as long as they avoid any major scandals and feck ups, rule for a generation by default as Labour takes its eye completely off the ball and tears itself apart.

If I were a Tory "strategist" I wouldn't be afraid of Labour getting in under its' own steam were there to be a GE.

I know a number of "traditional Labour" voters who wouldn't vote for Corbyn.
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General Chat - English / Re: Brexit watch
« Last post by Bisto on December 11, 2018, 03:13:42 AM »
Who knows, the Tories may even decide to return to Conservatism!


They need Jordan Peterson to slap them into shape
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General Chat - English / Re: Brexit watch
« Last post by Matt2112 on December 11, 2018, 00:34:37 AM »
Thanks Matt for explaining regressive left. I probably fall into that category as based on your posts on here I always assumed you were slightly to the right of centre!


I have no more than a toe dipped in that area I think, but being in the centre it feels like both the further left and right only have ears for each other.  It seems everything has become so polarised and concessions to the other side are considered a sign of weakness.  It’s all heat and no light at the moment; all a shame, and probably why things like the Brexit process have been managed so ineptly on both sides of the house.
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General Chat - English / Re: Brexit watch
« Last post by DavidL on December 11, 2018, 00:34:11 AM »
Whatever the outcome a vote of no confidence looks almost inevitable with yet another coalition looking the most likely outcome; this time, possibly, with the SNP siding with Labour and perhaps even the LibDems...it might even prove to be a good short term tactical outcome for the Tories; get rid of weak leadership, regroup, consolidate, be the opposition that Labour have abjectly failed to be and in all probability coast to a landslide victory within the next four years and, as long as they avoid any major scandals and feck ups, rule for a generation by default as Labour takes its eye completely off the ball and tears itself apart.
Who knows, the Tories may even decide to return to Conservatism!
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Events / Re: The Magpie Salute
« Last post by Bisto on December 11, 2018, 00:22:17 AM »
If I can convince him Beardy and I will probably start off earlier in the Ice Wharf (Whetherspoons) which is a 4 minute walk from the venue and meet everyone else in the Earl of Camden (Parkway) a bit later (to avoid buying expensive rounds 😉) which is a 3 minute walk from the venue. From memory it's always crowded in the Ice Wharf but cheap👍and I will need to eat before the gig, am guessing Dan will too. Don't know how busy the Earl of Camden is, food is probably better but I'm not expecting or paying for a Michelin star experience😉
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General Chat - English / Re: Brexit watch
« Last post by Bisto on December 11, 2018, 00:08:32 AM »
Whatever the outcome a vote of no confidence looks almost inevitable with yet another coalition looking the most likely outcome; this time, possibly, with the SNP siding with Labour and perhaps even the LibDems...it might even prove to be a good short term tactical outcome for the Tories; get rid of weak leadership, regroup, consolidate, be the opposition that Labour have abjectly failed to be and in all probability coast to a landslide victory within the next four years and, as long as they avoid any major scandals and feck ups, rule for a generation by default as Labour takes its eye completely off the ball and tears itself apart.
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