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Title: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: BaldiePete on October 05, 2014, 19:34:23 pm
Preview and short interview. Sounds good :)

http://youtu.be/dlHxl5Q3pIA

Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Oor Wullie on October 05, 2014, 19:52:25 pm
Will check this out when I get home from work tonight.  Cheers Pete.
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: JonL on October 06, 2014, 08:05:26 am
The rhythm guitar part at the start reminded me of Xanadu a little.
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Jonners on October 06, 2014, 11:23:35 am
very good news
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Richard_2112 on October 07, 2014, 00:29:07 am
Now that sounds much more like it! Really disliked all his solo stuff up until now but this sounds more Porcupine Tree-esque
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Presto-digitation on October 11, 2014, 16:56:01 pm
Raven was the first of his solo albums that I liked a lot and this sounds pretty exciting to me.  I really like his band mates...
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Captain Ron on October 13, 2014, 13:15:49 pm
Fantastic news. Feb 2015 release. Right in deep winter. Deluxe version with free set of razor blades no doubt. :)
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: BaldiePete on October 31, 2014, 21:28:58 pm
Steven Wilson has teamed up with Mariusz Duda of Riverside to release a download only new track called The Old Peace to raise funds for cancer charities in memory of a young fan who died last summer, aged just 26.

http://stevenwilsonhq.com/sw/the-old-peace-in-memory-of-alec-wildey/

It's probably not to everyone on here's taste but I like it a lot - a reflective, mostly acoustic track with some  lovely mellotron. Very reminiscent of Duda's Lunatic Soul albums.
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: DavidL on November 01, 2014, 23:23:56 pm
Quote from: BaldiePete on October 05, 2014, 19:34:23 pm
Preview and short interview. Sounds good :)

http://youtu.be/dlHxl5Q3pIA
Thanks for posting this Pete. Loved 'Raven' and have high hopes for this too. So pleased this features Guthrie once more as his playing on Raven was great.

Agree with JonL about the Xanadu link - no bad thing.
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: hygge on November 04, 2014, 11:23:37 am
Quote from: Richard_2112 on October 07, 2014, 00:29:07 am
Now that sounds much more like it! Really disliked all his solo stuff up until now but this sounds more Porcupine Tree-esque


Not too impressed by his solo work so far but this sounds really promising. Loved the 'pop tune'.  :)
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Jonners on November 04, 2014, 11:32:33 am
It has taken me a while to "get" his solo work, but the Raven is a thing of beauty

On the special release version, there is a disc of demos, which I actually think are better than the final versions
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Fishy on November 04, 2014, 14:41:16 pm
yes ..have to say never got on with any of the PT stuff but the solo album Raven is very good...
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Jonners on November 04, 2014, 15:34:30 pm
....falls off chair in shock.....
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Captain Ron on November 04, 2014, 15:58:20 pm
He's into prog jazz Jonners. Raven will be right up his jazz odyssey street. Not enough woodwind in PT for Fishy methinks. :)
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Jonners on November 04, 2014, 18:46:36 pm
Quote from: Captain Ron on November 04, 2014, 15:58:20 pm
He's into prog jazz Jonners. Raven will be right up his jazz odyssey street. Not enough woodwind in PT for Fishy methinks. :)

hmmmmm


I tend to listen to the demos version mostly now, its really, really good!
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: BaldiePete on November 04, 2014, 19:48:44 pm
Quote from: Captain Ron on November 04, 2014, 15:58:20 pm
He's into prog jazz Jonners. Raven will be right up his jazz odyssey street. Not enough woodwind in PT for Fishy methinks. :)


Fishy should listen to Tinto Brass and Don't Hate Me from Stupid Dream. They both feature the same flute/sax player (Theo Travis) as on Raven.
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: hygge on November 04, 2014, 20:02:52 pm
Smiled when I saw this comment on the page of the YouTube link.

"... the first tone it sounded like Abba and it turned into rush..."
For a Swedish guy who loves RUSH and grew up just 300 metres from Agneta's parents home - that sounds like a good combo.  ;)

Listening to it again I can agree. The beginning sounds a bit like ABBA meets Test for Echo (Half the World) and then it progresses into heavier RUSH- sounds weird but it works.
(Hopefully I don't put anyone off with a comment like this.  ::)
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on November 04, 2014, 21:10:52 pm
Quote from: BaldiePete on November 04, 2014, 19:48:44 pm
They both feature the same flute/sax player (Theo Travis) as on Raven.

Sometime Gong flautist. That's a good thing.
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Captain Ron on November 05, 2014, 12:55:40 pm
Have to say I was fairly gobsmacked by the studio videos on SW's site showing the recording sessions for the new album. More good musical ideas on offer in those clips than a lot of bands get in a career! Can't wait for the full album in full surround hidef glory. It's going to be immense I feel. :)
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Fishy on November 05, 2014, 13:18:18 pm
Quote from: Captain Ron on November 04, 2014, 15:58:20 pm
He's into prog jazz Jonners. Raven will be right up his jazz odyssey street. Not enough woodwind in PT for Fishy methinks. :)


spot on.. the jazzier elements make it a good listen...
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Fishy on November 05, 2014, 13:19:37 pm
Quote from: hygge on November 04, 2014, 20:02:52 pm
Smiled when I saw this comment on the page of the YouTube link.

"... the first tone it sounded like Abba and it turned into rush..."
For a Swedish guy who loves RUSH and grew up just 300 metres from Agneta's parents home - that sounds like a good combo.  ;)

Listening to it again I can agree. The beginning sounds a bit like ABBA meets Test for Echo (Half the World) and then it progresses into heavier RUSH- sounds weird but it works.
(Hopefully I don't put anyone off with a comment like this.  ::)


i don't hear any Rush on this album..thank the Lord...
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Norwegian on November 06, 2014, 10:50:16 am
Quote from: Fishy on November 05, 2014, 13:18:18 pm
spot on.. the jazzier elements make it a good listen...
I agree, but the new CD will not be as jazzy
Still I really like what I hear about this album, bring on February 2015!

Regarding the PT/SW-discussion: I often listen to PT - and I still love it, but IMHO the solo material is even better - SW never seems to surprise me (in a positive way)
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Jonners on November 06, 2014, 11:20:48 am
Quote from: Norwegian on November 06, 2014, 10:50:16 am
I agree, but the new CD will not be as jazzy
Still I really like what I hear about this album, bring on February 2015!

Regarding the PT/SW-discussion: I often listen to PT - and I still love it, but IMHO the solo material is even better - SW never seems to surprise me (in a positive way)


Certainly having spent the last year or so listening to Raven, I do find some of the PT stuff very mundane now (The king is dead, long live the king) and it has certainly made me realise how dull The Incident was/is.
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Fishy on November 06, 2014, 11:46:23 am
Quote from: Norwegian on November 06, 2014, 10:50:16 am
I agree, but the new CD will not be as jazzy



that's bad news then....
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Norwegian on November 06, 2014, 12:52:33 pm
Quote from: Jonners on November 06, 2014, 11:20:48 am
it has certainly made me realise how dull The Incident was/is.
Not his finest hour, but still not that bad. Another example of a double CD that should have been a single CD.
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Norwegian on November 06, 2014, 12:52:58 pm
Quote from: Fishy on November 06, 2014, 11:46:23 am
that's bad news then....
remains to see - I have high hopes/expectations
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: DavidL on November 06, 2014, 14:05:35 pm
Quote from: Jonners on November 06, 2014, 11:20:48 am
Certainly having spent the last year or so listening to Raven, I do find some of the PT stuff very mundane now (The king is dead, long live the king) and it has certainly made me realise how dull The Incident was/is.
Interesting - I really like The Incident although the 2nd CD rarely gets a listen. I like the conceptual style of the piece. I would say I listen to it more than any other PT album but I may prefer The Raven at the moment too. I really like In Absentia, Deadwing and FOABP. Each one of those albums has moments of utter brilliance on them but each one has a few tracks that are 'misses' for me although with each subsequent release the 'misses' were fewer in number.
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Captain Ron on November 06, 2014, 14:52:22 pm
The Incident is a very solid listen for me but it is very dark and certainly not a casual listen. The musical journey from The Incident through Grace For Drowning and The Raven is a very methodical and logical evolution to these ears and it's quite obvious from the snippets on the studio sessions for the new album that he is dialling back the jazz and this time focusing more on the spatial and chordal content again. 
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Bez on November 06, 2014, 23:23:10 pm
The Incident may well be the worst thing he's done (apart from a few tracks), except some of the IEM or Bass Communion stuff.... ::)

I really don't get the "love" for the Raven....its OK, but not as good (or innovative) as Insurgentes or Grace For Drowning
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: BaldiePete on November 07, 2014, 00:08:47 am
The Raven is the only one of his solo albums that I like. The first couple just continued the downward trend of PT albums since In Absentia.
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Jonners on November 07, 2014, 10:53:19 am
I think it has a consistency that much of the solo and later PT stuff lacks
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: DavidL on November 07, 2014, 14:15:26 pm
Quote from: Jonners on November 07, 2014, 10:53:19 am
I think it has a consistency that much of the solo and later PT stuff lacks
Yes, I think that is the key to its appeal for me too.
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Captain Ron on November 07, 2014, 14:54:40 pm
I think Jonners is probably right about consistency on The Raven being key. THe experimentation is dialled back a bit compared to his earlier solo works in favour of more solid song writing although there are still many great proggy moments on it and Govan Guthrie's guitar work is a joy. That solo on Drive Home gives me goosebumps just thinking about it never mind listening to it!
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Jonners on November 07, 2014, 16:18:49 pm
Agreed. While I am sure the guys in PT are no slouches, he also has surrounded himself with a group who are right on top of their game, both in the studio and live

And, without trying to sound like a stuck record, you should all try out the demos disc. Its brilliant
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: DavidL on November 07, 2014, 19:09:16 pm
Quote from: Captain Ron on November 07, 2014, 14:54:40 pm
That solo on Drive Home gives me goosebumps just thinking about it never mind listening to it!
I'm with you on that -  it's perfect. I've said it before, it reminds me of Alex's solo on The Garden..............only better.
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Neillwith2Ls on December 01, 2014, 17:06:32 pm
Straight from Bookface. There must be something wrong with him, the longest track is only 13 minutes... ;)


QuoteWe can now reveal the front cover artwork and track listing for the forthcoming Steven Wilson album 'Hand. Cannot. Erase.' due for release via Kscope on the following dates: February 27th - Germany, March 2nd - UK & Rest of World, March 3rd - US & Canada.

1. First Regret (2.01)
2. 3 Years Older (10.18)
3. Hand Cannot Erase (4.13)
4. Perfect Life (4.43)
5. Routine (8.58)
6. Home Invasion (6.24)
7. Regret #9 (5.00)
8. Transience (2.43)
9. Ancestral (13.30)
10. Happy Returns (6.00)
11. Ascendant Here On...(1.54)


Cover photography - Lasse Hoile

http://stevenwilsonhq.com

(https://scontent-a-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/10406829_855201827833414_554202351436766851_n.jpg?oh=45352966f02cee8015aec6d1f421ebce&oe=5509E8EB)
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Norwegian on December 06, 2014, 11:50:17 am
Quote from: Captain Ron on November 07, 2014, 14:54:40 pm
That solo on Drive Home gives me goosebumps just thinking about it never mind listening to it!
And GG soooo nailed it live here in Oslo last time!! (he probably does that every time)
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: JonL on December 10, 2014, 20:39:42 pm
New one available for pre order.
Don't know why the DVD and blu ray are both in the deluxe package.
Think a I'll go for the vinyl and cd.
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: pdw1 on December 10, 2014, 21:35:00 pm
Duly ordered.  I wish he wouldnt announce everything just before Xmas.

link for those interested:
https://www.burningshed.com/store/stevenwilson/
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Captain Ron on December 11, 2014, 13:57:47 pm
Pity there's no bluray and cd only option. Bluray for me. I can always download the flac and make a car audio solution from that. I'll wait until nearer the time to pre-order though as I am not fond of BS's take cash on order policy, especially coming up to Christmas.
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: BaldiePete on December 20, 2014, 14:03:33 pm
A single (Hand Cannot Erase) is now available to buy on iTunes for £0.99. It's a lot more melodic than most of the stuff he's being doing for the last decade or so.

Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: hygge on December 23, 2014, 11:42:25 am
Quote from: BaldiePete on December 20, 2014, 14:03:33 pm
A single (Hand Cannot Erase) is now available to buy on iTunes for £0.99. It's a lot more melodic than most of the stuff he's being doing for the last decade or so.


Thanx for the tip Pete!
First ever song bought from iTunes Store.
Looking forward to the album.  :)
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: BaldiePete on December 24, 2014, 18:46:13 pm
Short article/interview in the new Classic Rock magazine preview of 2015.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v308/BaldiePete/scan0121_zpsc37041b7.jpg)
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Bez on December 24, 2014, 21:30:33 pm
Sounds like a load of self-indulgent bollocks..... :-\
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: BaldiePete on December 24, 2014, 23:22:01 pm
Quote from: Bez on December 24, 2014, 21:30:33 pm
Sounds like a load of self-indulgent bollocks..... :-\


Good news  ;)
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: pdw1 on December 27, 2014, 20:31:29 pm
Quote from: BaldiePete on December 24, 2014, 23:22:01 pm
Good news  ;)

Too right
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Captain Ron on December 30, 2014, 01:55:46 am
Quote from: Bez on December 24, 2014, 21:30:33 pm
Sounds like a load of self-indulgent bollocks..... :-\

Hopefully yes. He is the master of it.  ;D
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: BaldiePete on January 02, 2015, 23:02:01 pm
Talking of which ...

http://handcannoterase.com/

Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Chris Quartly on January 02, 2015, 23:09:52 pm
He mentioned being able to order the album in the US at some point, I'd rather not spend the ridiculous postage on getting it shipped from the UK, but also wary it might sell out and I won't be able to order it in the US...
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: BaldiePete on January 05, 2015, 00:29:15 am
Quote from: BaldiePete on January 02, 2015, 23:02:01 pm
Talking of which ...

http://handcannoterase.com/


The blog is now being updated in real time. A new entry was posted dated today.
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Captain Ron on January 05, 2015, 14:33:44 pm
Quote from: BaldiePete on January 05, 2015, 00:29:15 am
The blog is now being updated in real time. A new entry was posted dated today.


Did a quick scan. Jeez! If you thought the Incident was depressing subject wise this is much darker. Once again, it will be the music that draws me in, not the subject matter it seems.
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: BaldiePete on February 01, 2015, 21:55:54 pm
Two tracks now on YouTube.


http://youtu.be/xpZpfqE_KgQ


http://youtu.be/2-BpC7zRIdo
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Nick on February 01, 2015, 22:28:04 pm
Thanks, sounds great so far.
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Valen on February 02, 2015, 09:56:23 am
I'm really looking forward to this album, but am resisting any sneak peaks.

If the pre-order arrives on time I figure I've got two weeks to fully absorb it before the Edinburgh show.

Interestingly, this is the first time that I've ordered an album that my better half is equally keen to hear. It's not very often that our musical paths join up, but perhaps it's because we're getting older and wiser.....
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Captain Ron on February 02, 2015, 11:11:00 am
That's two solid and surpringly straightforward tracks so far. "Hand,cannot,erase" is a great tune and "Perfect Life" has a beautiful ambiance.
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: BaldiePete on February 12, 2015, 00:02:15 am
More previews. This time it's First Regret and 3 Years Older which were played on the DPRP Progressive Rock Radio Show.

Starts at about the 2:40 mark.

Love this - different from previous solo work.

http://dprpradio.podbean.com/e/show-132-featuring-steven-wilson-handcannoterase/
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Captain Ron on February 12, 2015, 10:15:54 am
I look forward to giving that a listen at home later. :)
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Captain Ron on February 13, 2015, 10:25:25 am
That was very tasty Pete. Some lovely work in that. Especially the drums and piano. Really looking forward to hearing the album in full. :)
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Nick on February 13, 2015, 15:17:16 pm
Very nice, also keenly waiting this, got tix for Cardiff .
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Bez on February 13, 2015, 19:07:46 pm
A gentle reminder that I still have 2 reasonable spares for the London date if anyone finds themselves short...
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Chris Quartly on February 15, 2015, 16:46:57 pm
Found a place here that had the deluxe version for pre-order. Haven't listened to any of the previews, I'll wait.

I do have a ticket for one of the NY shows, I don't think I've seen him play solo with a band before, come to think of it.
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on February 15, 2015, 22:42:23 pm
Just cancelled my order, after finding that the spawn of BLiar sings on it >:(
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Captain Ron on February 16, 2015, 16:57:50 pm
Quote from: Nickslikk2112 on February 15, 2015, 22:42:23 pm
Just cancelled my order, after finding that the spawn of BLiar sings on it >:(


Eh? Had a look at the credits and don't see any mention of a Blair. Are they in the boys choir or something? If so then ithat's a rather tiny contribution and not getting it on that account is akin to saying you refuse to breathe air because the Blair's breathe it too.  ;D

I notice that the album is starting to garner some very favourable reviews from some of the lucky journo's out there who've had the pleasure of hearing it in full.
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Jonners on February 16, 2015, 17:13:09 pm
its very good
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: döm on February 16, 2015, 17:56:47 pm
Quote from: Nickslikk2112 on February 15, 2015, 22:42:23 pm
Just cancelled my order, after finding that the spawn of BLiar sings on it >:(

I'll  need to get 2 copies now, to make up for the lost sale.
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: NeilP on February 16, 2015, 20:18:50 pm
Quote from: Captain Ron on February 16, 2015, 16:57:50 pm


I notice that the album is starting to garner some very favourable reviews from some of the lucky journo's out there who've had the pleasure of hearing it in full.


it is a bit tasty... so I've heard ;)
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on February 16, 2015, 21:15:03 pm
Quote from: Captain Ron on February 16, 2015, 16:57:50 pm
If so then ithat's a rather tiny contribution and not getting it on that account is akin to saying you refuse to breathe air because the Blair's breathe it too.  ;D


BLiar's don't breathe, they're a family of reptilian space aliens who absorb things through their skin.
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Captain Ron on February 17, 2015, 13:01:32 pm
Quote from: Nickslikk2112 on February 16, 2015, 21:15:03 pm
BLiar's don't breathe, they're a family of reptilian space aliens who absorb things through their skin.
;D ;D ::)
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Nick on February 22, 2015, 15:06:05 pm
Really stunning album. Can't see much beating this for quality in 2015.
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: BaldiePete on February 22, 2015, 21:59:09 pm
Bloody hell .... Stunning.
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Thenop on February 23, 2015, 18:59:11 pm
The 2 long songs are as good as anything so far, but he really outdid himself with the shorter more melodic songs on this one.
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: pdw1 on February 23, 2015, 19:52:05 pm
Am I the only person on here who has not heard it?  :-\
I am happy to wait a week.
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: captainkurtz on February 23, 2015, 20:02:32 pm
I haven't heard it.  I won't hear it next week either, mind.  Or the week after that...
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: JonL on February 23, 2015, 22:46:15 pm
Quote from: pdw1 on February 23, 2015, 19:52:05 pm
Am I the only person on here who has not heard it?  :-\
I am happy to wait a week.


I never do sneak peaks. I like the real thing.
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Bez on February 23, 2015, 23:48:27 pm
Quote from: pdw1 on February 23, 2015, 19:52:05 pm
Am I the only person on here who has not heard it?  :-\
I am happy to wait a week.


Not heard anything here either...
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Chris Quartly on February 24, 2015, 03:09:54 am
Not heard a note so far.
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Jonners on February 24, 2015, 10:26:17 am
Its very good, melodic in places, proggy in places, anthemic at other times

One of the longer songs reminds me of Mastodon when they do their longer more meandering numbers. Female vocals in places offers some nice variety

Im not sure if he is influencing Anathema, or its the other way round, but there are some startling similarities in places, fortunately SW knows how to finish a song.

Different enough from the Raven to peak my interest straight away, it seems a little more stripped down, less Jazzy, more accessible, but really, really enjoyable.

Only listened on headphones and tablet while cycle training, but I imagine the audio geeks will enjoy this on a good system, it sounds very "rich" and deep.
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Norwegian on February 24, 2015, 11:25:21 am
Quote from: Jonners on February 24, 2015, 10:26:17 am
Its very good, melodic in places, proggy in places, anthemic at other times
Different enough from the Raven to peak my interest straight away, it seems a little more stripped down, less Jazzy, more accessible, but really, really enjoyable.
Spot on
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Neph on February 24, 2015, 13:31:25 pm
When is this out? I've got it on pre-order through Burning Shed.
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Jonners on February 24, 2015, 13:36:48 pm
Soon I think. I just happen to know some very generous Russians.......
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Jonners on February 24, 2015, 15:12:20 pm
http://www.themonolith.com/music/review-steven-wilson-hand-erase/

Good review

The one song does sound a bit Rush, very Xanadu to these ears at the start

Fortunately none of it sounds like post 1988 Rush
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Fishy on February 24, 2015, 17:47:09 pm
not listened yet...less jazzy you say   :(
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Jonners on February 24, 2015, 17:52:06 pm
Still some Jazz flute, still plenty of prog, but some nice short catchy ones as well
Good mix
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Jonners on February 25, 2015, 14:51:12 pm
If he doesn't play Regret#9 live, I may create an Incident of my own at Wolverhampton Civic

The keyboard solo then the Guthrie Govan masterclass is jaw dropping!
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Neillwith2Ls on February 25, 2015, 15:17:54 pm
Didn't know this had leaked til the girl I sold my spare Troxy tickets to pointed it out. My Amazon pre-order lands on Monday, but I simply cannot wait :D
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Jonners on February 25, 2015, 15:49:36 pm
Quote from: Neillwith2Ls on February 25, 2015, 15:17:54 pm
Didn't know this had leaked til the girl I sold my spare Troxy tickets to pointed it out. My Amazon pre-order lands on Monday, but I simply cannot wait :D


It is absolutely  outstanding. Think the shackles of PT have been taken off, and while the chaps in PT are no slouches, he has surrounded himself by some absolutely outstanding musicians.

Getting a bit dewy eyed over this one!!!!  ::)
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Captain Ron on February 25, 2015, 17:37:14 pm
Lookinbg forward to cranking the bluray of this in glorious 5.1 next week. :)
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Jonners on February 25, 2015, 17:47:16 pm
You will not be disappointed!
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Nick on February 25, 2015, 19:56:14 pm
It's on constant rotation here. Looking forward to Cardiff in a couple of weeks (apart from paying £5 to get into Wales)
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: pdw1 on February 25, 2015, 20:19:20 pm
Quote from: Nick on February 25, 2015, 19:56:14 pm
It's on constant rotation here. Looking forward to Cardiff in a couple of weeks (apart from paying £5 to get into Wales)

It should be £5 to get out of Wales  ;)
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Nick on February 26, 2015, 20:05:01 pm
Guthrie Govan's playing on this is sublime. Very much a muso's muso and perhaps he shuns the larger stage, he is leaving the tour after the Europe leg to play his Aristocrats stuff (which i can enjoy for a while but loses me along the way). He seems a genuinely nice guy from the YT vids.
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: pdw1 on February 28, 2015, 12:58:02 pm
Review of the album in the Guardian
http://www.theguardian.com/music/2015/feb/26/steven-wilson-hand-cannot-erase-review
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: JonL on February 28, 2015, 16:11:03 pm
Katherine Jenkins!
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Nick on February 28, 2015, 22:31:00 pm
Still playing this, can't remember the last album that had this effect on me, just brilliant, deep, touching, simple and symphonic.
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Captain Ron on March 02, 2015, 11:46:44 am
First spin of the bluray last night. Wow! This is a veritable musical banquet. :) It will take quite a few listens to digest it all but first impressions standouts were the epic Regret #9 instrumental and the beautiful vocal coda in Perfect Life.
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Jonners on March 02, 2015, 12:41:37 pm
Second guessing as per usual, but I imagine he might play the whole thing live

Not my favourite tactic, but its a good enough album to be treated this way
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Captain Ron on March 02, 2015, 15:35:17 pm
He's going to either have to bring a female singer and a boy chorister on the road if he wants to do the whole album, or he's going to have to do the Rush thing and have pre-recorded components to the music. Some purists might balk at the idea of some of it not being live but there is so many layers to this sort of music that it's probably not reasonable to expect it to be fully live.
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Captain Ron on March 02, 2015, 15:41:02 pm
Can't wait to get home and crank this album on again. :)
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Matt2112 on March 02, 2015, 15:44:23 pm
Sounds like something I might like.  Whaddya all reckon?  I've read that Guthrie is on it.
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Jonners on March 02, 2015, 16:52:24 pm
Quality album, I would say easily his stand out Solo album, and to these ears anyway miles beyond what PT delivered as a complete work.

Lots of synths and guitars, playing is virtuoso but not prog w@nkery, GG does two solos which are just top notch, the lyrics and subject are interesting

Accessible immediately, Im not a believer in good albums have to be persevered with. This one gets you straight away
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Captain Ron on March 02, 2015, 17:09:49 pm
Quote from: Matt2112 on March 02, 2015, 15:44:23 pm
Sounds like something I might like.  Whaddya all reckon?  I've read that Guthrie is on it.


This one is a no-brainer for you Matt. It's covered and I mean COVERED in lovely synth playing. Not crappy dream theater style widdlery but lush intelligent washes and soundscape structure and even some epic keyboard playing straight from the Rainbow Gates of Babylon intro school of playing. Just get it! :)
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: pdw1 on March 02, 2015, 20:26:18 pm
The deluxe hardback book is a thing of beauty even by the standard of SW deluxe hardback special editions.
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: NeilP on March 02, 2015, 20:32:32 pm
arrived today... playing tonight!
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: pdw1 on March 02, 2015, 21:08:05 pm
me too but I bet you dont have 3 kids running round screaming  >:(
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Matt2112 on March 02, 2015, 23:12:01 pm
Quote from: Captain Ron on March 02, 2015, 17:09:49 pmIt's covered and I mean COVERED in lovely synth playing.


*swoon*

Quotelush intelligent washes and soundscape structure


*faint*

:)
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on March 03, 2015, 00:31:56 am
Not got my copy yet.
Still the M**l on S*nd*y only gave it three stars...
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: pdw1 on March 03, 2015, 00:35:10 am
An interview (with a Marillion fan but dont let that put you off)
http://www.undertheradarmag.com/interviews/steven_wilson/
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Red Star on March 03, 2015, 09:38:17 am
Quote from: JonL on February 28, 2015, 16:11:03 pm
Katherine Jenkins!


Is she on it?
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Valen on March 03, 2015, 09:47:47 am
We both sat down to this old-school style last night.

No sneak peeks, no youtube leaks, just a brand new album still sealed.

We went for the 5.1 DTS mix on the dvd.

An hour later, we're both like "well, that was worth the hype and the wait, and then some!". I had no doubts beforehand, and the album fully lived up to expectations. so much so, that as soon as the last track faded I was keen to play it all again. The accompanying visuals on the dvd, as the album progresses and the story unravels, are also well put together.

Hand. Cannot. Erase.
I. Cannot. Wait. For Edinburgh gig.
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Jonners on March 03, 2015, 10:33:41 am
Quote from: Red Star on March 03, 2015, 09:38:17 am
Is she on it?


Yes, but speaking, not singing.....
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Captain Ron on March 03, 2015, 11:29:59 am
That must've been a hard day at the office for the rest of the band.
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Jonners on March 03, 2015, 12:01:12 pm
Shared a few frock and make up tips with Nick Beggs
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Captain Ron on March 03, 2015, 12:11:58 pm
Quote from: Valen on March 03, 2015, 09:47:47 am
The accompanying visuals on the dvd, as the album progresses and the story unravels, are also well put together.


+1
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Fishy on March 03, 2015, 12:16:42 pm
Quote from: Jonners on March 03, 2015, 12:01:12 pm
Shared a few frock and make up tips with Nick Beggs


i bet he showed her his stick...
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: captainkurtz on March 03, 2015, 13:09:00 pm
Big thanks to Fishy for making this available to me to listen to.

I never would have bothered with this...I never really got PT and had a quick listen to Raven before rejecting the idea of seeing them at Newcastle a few years ago.

But..like what I've heard...his appalling singing aside....just ordered the vinyl from Amazon.
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Signals get crossed on March 03, 2015, 16:25:25 pm
If anyone out there could supply me a copy of disc2 (Demos) from the deluxe edition of this i'd be so very grateful, couldn't quite afford the £50 or so required.

Apologies if in any way this is not the done thing round here! I'm so keen to hear the demo version of Ancestral - the Youtube previews suggested much more of the female vocals on their own on this track. Thanks so much! 
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Bez on March 03, 2015, 17:56:22 pm
Just me who's underwhelmed so far then... :-\ Played it twice (admittedly on an iPod in the office). There's some really nice touches, but the rest just sounds like "prog by numbers" so far....
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Jonners on March 03, 2015, 18:44:05 pm
Cloth ears
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Bez on March 03, 2015, 19:06:03 pm
Quote from: Jonners on March 03, 2015, 18:44:05 pm
Cloth ears


Quite possibly.....remember that I'm no great fan if the Raven either....
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Richard_2112 on March 03, 2015, 19:46:26 pm
Quote from: Bez on March 03, 2015, 17:56:22 pm
Just me who's underwhelmed so far then... :-\ Played it twice (admittedly on an iPod in the office). There's some really nice touches, but the rest just sounds like "prog by numbers" so far....


You're not alone at all. Listened to it a few times today and I really don't know what all the fuss is about. There's some good stuff on there, but it all sounds so derivative. Some of it sounds like watered down Porcupine Tree (Transience sounds way too much like Lips of Ashes), and the rest sounds like modern knock-offs of older prog bands. There's a friend at work who doesn't really like Porcupine Tree because he says he's heard it all before in King Crimson and I finally get what he means. The mental bit in 3 Years Older sounds like ELP, Home Invasion sounds like King Crimson, Regret #9 could be a Genesis track.

The last three tracks are pretty good, but on the whole I feel a bit "meh" towards the album.
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Fishy on March 03, 2015, 19:57:11 pm
i hear a lot of vintage Yes in this album and particularly the last one...
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: BaldiePete on March 03, 2015, 21:08:56 pm
There's certainly a lot of Yes. Some very Chris Squire bass  on 3 Years Older springs immediately to mind and there's some Hammond organ like ELP or pre-Wakeman Yes. I don't see this as a problem, Wilson's influences are well-known and he's created an album with those influences on show but  I'd say he's amalgamated them into a sound of his own.  I'd say that both this and Raven are better than anything he's done since In Absentia.
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Valen on March 04, 2015, 09:49:20 am
I heard several moments reminiscent of early solo Hackett - a nice taster for SW's remixes.
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Captain Ron on March 04, 2015, 10:12:17 am
I gave it a good listen on headphones last night (stereo 96KHz/24bit mix) and to my ears it's a thing of beauty. Transience does have a Lips of Ashes sort of vibe but in my book that's no bad thing as that's probably my favourite PT song. I agree with his statement in the studio video (which is very good btw) that this album is a blending of everything he has done to date. There are many standout moments of musical excellence throughout this work and the engineering quality is as usual impeccable.
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Captain Ron on March 04, 2015, 10:13:46 am
Quote from: BaldiePete on March 03, 2015, 21:08:56 pm
I'd say that both this and Raven are better than anything he's done since In Absentia.


Too early to call that one for me yet but you may be right. :)
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Fishy on March 04, 2015, 12:29:06 pm
hearing more Crimson-esque stuff now... Ancestral...
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Captain Ron on March 04, 2015, 13:17:55 pm
Ancestral has a great feeling of increasing tension building all the way through it. It fairly gets the heart pumping and the head moving. :) I can imagine this being very enjoyable live.
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Captain Ron on March 04, 2015, 13:30:22 pm
I noticed that he is playing in Toronto on 26th of June so anyone going over for two weeks to see Rush there could also take his show in as well.
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: 26thApril on March 04, 2015, 14:20:02 pm
Quite surprised by some of the replies on this.

First there are quite a few sections that are Rush like.

The suggestion that Wilson recalls often other music (I hear Echoes and Entangled in there as well as vocal melodies that recall the Manics and Stereophonics) is a given to me-his music nearly always sounds like that it takes a few listens for that to disappear sometimes it doesn't as in The Incident where Dogs by Floyd sounds like a straight steal.

My gut reaction to this album was perhaps it was conceptually flawed and maybe he had over stretched himself but the more I listen the more I am a bit awe struck by what he has achieved.

Get that man to produce the next Rush record.
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Captain Ron on March 04, 2015, 15:07:49 pm
Quote from: 26thApril on March 04, 2015, 14:20:02 pm
Get that man to produce the next Rush record.


First there'd have to BE an intent to make a next Rush record but conceptually as a choice that's an interesting idea.  :)
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Jonners on March 04, 2015, 15:10:59 pm
Quote from: Captain Ron on March 04, 2015, 15:07:49 pm
First there'd have to BE an intent to make a next Rush record but conceptually as a choice that's an interesting idea.  :)


It would take too long, so don't imagine he would fancy it

Still got this album on rotation, very much enjoying the whole experience of it, and excited about seeing it live.
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Gman on March 04, 2015, 22:16:28 pm
I really like the new album & was a pretty late convert to Porcupine Tree, who for me are the dogs bollox. Getting quite excited now about the Edin show....even though many twats on here will be attending ;)

Gman
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on March 04, 2015, 22:48:59 pm
Turned up at last. I could have waited...

I hate myself for using this word, but it's all a bit "meh"
3 Years Older reminds me of Spocks' Beard...
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Richard_2112 on March 04, 2015, 23:49:59 pm
My main problem is I don't want amalgamations or blendings of past things, I want something new. What was so jaw-dropping about Porcupine Tree when I discovered them was how refreshing it all sounded. For me the well of creative juices that made Mr Wilson interesting dried up just before the writing of The Incident. I'm actually quite glad I didn't take a punt at a ticket for Manchester next week...
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: NeilP on March 05, 2015, 01:51:46 am
It's one for listening to in the dark with a decent malt... lots of complexities and superbly produced as always with SW. The second track (three years older) is so similar to Xanadu tbh
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Bez on March 05, 2015, 08:54:18 am
Quote from: NeilP on March 05, 2015, 01:51:46 am
It's one for listening to in the dark with a decent malt... lots of complexities and superbly produced as always with SW. The second track (three years older) is so similar to Xanadu tbh


I'm not hearing Xanadu, I do hear "The Who", though....

I agree with an earlier poster about a MSP "sound" on one track as well
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Captain Ron on March 05, 2015, 10:24:23 am
Been listening to this a lot and really enjoying it. His influences really shine through. Of the ones I am familiar with I hear Yes (higher register bass playing is very Squiresque), Pink Floyd (especially in the chording of the dreamy sections of "Routine" and the general slidey guitar playing style), Rush, Jethro Tull, Jean Michel Jarre (keyboard solo in "Regret #9" reminds me very much of the epic "Overture" from "China Concert"), Vangelis (Beggsy's incidental fretless stick work mostly) and of course his Porcupine Tree experiences. All of those influences add together to produce a very satisfying and mature sounding proggy but not inaccessable smorgasbord to my ears. I don't accept that his creative juices have run out as I hear some beautiful work. You don't have to produce something completely new sounding to produce something that is a honed example of one's style and that's what I think we have here. A distillation rather than an innovation IMO. Currently I am grooving on the mathematical central heavy riff in ancestral that periodically gives way to the straight ahead metal riff. The air of increasing tension throughout that song (particularly in the background strings) is fantastic and Govan's main solo is sublime and one of the standouts on the album. The solo in "Regret #9" is godly. Worthy of Gilmour or Vai.
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Jonners on March 05, 2015, 10:29:39 am
I never quite get the obsession with wanting an album to be "new"

Bands have a style, SW has a style, fortunately it is a very broad style. We are not talking about Maiden trotting out an album of galloping tunes every couple of years

Its obviously an SW record, but in no way is the Raven:II. He has made a huge number of albums in different guises, and it is remarkable to me that he has managed to come up with something so fresh at this stage of his career.
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: captainkurtz on March 05, 2015, 10:33:09 am
One song sounds exactly like 'everything must go' era MSP.  Some Nine Inch Nails there too.
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Captain Ron on March 05, 2015, 11:28:10 am
Quote from: captainkurtz on March 05, 2015, 10:33:09 am
One song sounds exactly like 'everything must go' era MSP.  Some Nine Inch Nails there too.


Yes. The lyrical rhythms on the title track are very MSP sounding. He's definitely a Trent fan too. He's been using exposed electronic percussion with incidental industrialism ala NiN for quite some time. I confess I think I could do without that particular influence but hey-ho it's a free world for musicians too. :)
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: DavidL on March 05, 2015, 19:30:41 pm
Only a couple of listens so far - undecided  :-\
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Dave64K on March 05, 2015, 19:59:48 pm
It's OK  :)
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on March 05, 2015, 22:46:24 pm
I spend most of my time playing spot the rip off, I mean "Homage"...
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: NeilP on March 06, 2015, 01:28:20 am
it's certainly grown on me with repeated listens
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Captain Ron on March 06, 2015, 12:39:57 pm
There are some nice subtleties in the arrangement like recurring themes that are moved onto different instruments so you get an air of deja vu but have to think carefully where earlier you heard the motif. There's an ascending bit right at the end of the main rock out in Ancestral" that I am convinced is a direct lift from the run before the outro in Jethro Tull's "Seal Driver" from their "Broadsword and The Beast" album. If it's not it, it's remarkably similar.
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Nick on March 06, 2015, 18:49:57 pm
Quote from: Captain Ron on March 05, 2015, 10:24:23 am
Currently I am grooving on the mathematical central heavy riff in ancestral that periodically gives way to the straight ahead metal riff. The air of increasing tension throughout that song (particularly in the background strings) is fantastic and Govan's main solo is sublime and one of the standouts on the album.


Yes , terrific stuff in Ancesteral, the math riff thing reminds me of Hemispheres. A nod must also go to the production, , very clear and plenty of space for the voice of all the instruments.

Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Neph on March 07, 2015, 05:43:53 am
I'm also undecided on this. Parts are an absolute joy but overall it seems to lack something. I've only listened to it a couple of times so I'm hardly familiar with it. Hopefully repeated plays will change my opinion.
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Signals get crossed on March 07, 2015, 17:55:18 pm
4 absolutely glorious solo albums now from SW - I miss Porcupine Tree as much as the next man but this is one mightily impressive musical journey he's on at the moment.

Can anyone out there with the deluxe edition bonus disc confirm if Ancestral contains more of the female vocals on the demo version?? Thanks!
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Presto-digitation on March 07, 2015, 20:18:48 pm
Resonant.  Nice slow burn.  A WONDERFUL album for the headphones at night. 
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: JonL on March 07, 2015, 23:21:46 pm
Only heard the first few tracks. Clare came downstairs, I thought she was asleep.
The jazz noodling  has been replaced by pop melodies. I hear echoes of Rush, a bit of Jimmy Page, even the Manics. I like muchly so far.
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Chris Quartly on March 08, 2015, 16:07:53 pm
My copy arrived on Friday.

It's a nice album... not sure how memorable it's going to be to be honest, but it's nice. He's really gone to some lengths on the packaging, but I don't really care enough to read any of it!
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: captainkurtz on March 08, 2015, 17:17:32 pm
The opening track, bar the bit where Wilson starts singing is just brilliant - amazing collection of players - minnieman in particular.

The rest is ok...some of the lyrics are pants.

Mentioned on Facebook that is reminds me musically and thematically of Marillion's 'Brave' - which I think is a far far superior to this...
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Fishy on March 08, 2015, 17:24:15 pm
yeah his singing just isn't the best...
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Nick on March 08, 2015, 19:57:13 pm
I find his singing ok, it''s just that he surrounds himself with excellent players, but it seems he needs the limelight. There are passages here that would be served by a better vocalist, or a female voice. Why use Katherine Jenkins for a spoken part, surely she could have brought more to this excellent disc?
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on March 08, 2015, 22:46:08 pm
Must admit that it sounds good in 5.1 but I find it all a bit sterile.

Second best album of the year - after Beardfish's +4426-COMFORTZONE - out of two new releases purchased...
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Norwegian on March 09, 2015, 08:42:32 am
Plagiarism?

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Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: captainkurtz on March 09, 2015, 09:15:12 am
Hahahahahahahahahahahaha
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: DavidL on March 09, 2015, 16:07:07 pm
Quote from: Norwegian on March 09, 2015, 08:42:32 am
Plagiarism?

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;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Jonners on March 09, 2015, 16:53:59 pm
He put High Wood on the wrong album then......
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Captain Ron on March 09, 2015, 17:01:16 pm
Quote from: Jonners on March 09, 2015, 16:53:59 pm
He put High Wood on the wrong album then......

;D
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Captain Ron on March 11, 2015, 12:10:52 pm
Having given it enough listens to become familiar with the work I am now really looking forward to the show to see how he executes this material in a live setting. Quite a few logistical issues to overcome methinks. Boy choristers, female vocals and string accompaniments all present a challenge for live execution.
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Jonners on March 11, 2015, 12:34:56 pm
You doing Woverhampton Ronners? Nice to put a face to a name if you are
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Captain Ron on March 11, 2015, 12:50:10 pm
Myself, Terry and two mates Ben and Sophie Smithwell will be in attendance for the Wolverhampton gig. Hmmm. I seem to remember a little rock bar with an epic gothic chair as a a centrepiece. The Griffin?
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Captain Ron on March 11, 2015, 12:54:14 pm
Not the Griffin. It's the Giffard Arms.
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Jonners on March 11, 2015, 13:22:03 pm
That's the one, happy to meet you there if you like

Will be with Neil Bradford from here, and a chap called Gary who is a prog DJ and interviewed Wilson a couple of weeks ago.
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Captain Ron on March 11, 2015, 14:30:14 pm
My mate Ben is des driver that night so i'll need to check with him what time we plan to be up that way at but i'll let you know. :)
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Jonners on March 11, 2015, 14:51:13 pm
Tell your pal to aim for Fold Street Car Park. its free, and very close to the venue
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Captain Ron on March 11, 2015, 16:19:49 pm
Quote from: Jonners on March 11, 2015, 14:51:13 pm
Tell your pal to aim for Fold Street Car Park. its free, and very close to the venue

Nice one. Thanks Jonners. :)
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Red Star on March 21, 2015, 11:31:10 am
Quote from: Jonners on March 03, 2015, 10:33:41 am
Yes, but speaking, not singing.....


Which song?
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Captain Ron on March 21, 2015, 17:18:45 pm
It's Perfect Life Chris.
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Red Star on March 22, 2015, 12:20:46 pm
Quote from: Captain Ron on March 21, 2015, 17:18:45 pm
It's Perfect Life Chris.


Well I did wonder that but it doesn't sound like her - I cant detect a hint of a Welsh accent!
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Neillwith2Ls on March 23, 2015, 15:43:12 pm
Two RAH dates (28th & 29th September) announced today, onsale 9am on Friday. Apparently he's doing two different sets each night... that should ensure a sell-out I'd imagine.
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Captain Ron on March 24, 2015, 11:58:06 am
Quote from: Red Star on March 22, 2015, 12:20:46 pm
Well I did wonder that but it doesn't sound like her - I cant detect a hint of a Welsh accent!


Strange that because I can hear it. It's gentle but it's still there. It's a nice little monolgue and sets the scene perfectly for the epic choral section.
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Jonners on March 24, 2015, 12:00:35 pm
Quote from: Neillwith2Ls on March 23, 2015, 15:43:12 pm
Two RAH dates (28th & 29th September) announced today, onsale 9am on Friday. Apparently he's doing two different sets each night... that should ensure a sell-out I'd imagine.


Probably answers my question about whether they will be recording a show from this tour then.
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Captain Ron on March 24, 2015, 12:05:19 pm
Double bluray two night show. <drool>
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Captain Ron on March 24, 2015, 12:10:23 pm
28th and 29th of September. Monday and Tuesday night. Ugh. That's three days leave i'd have to take if we wanted to do that. Sorry Steve, we'll wait for the bluray.
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: captainkurtz on March 24, 2015, 12:33:40 pm
Couldn't be better timed for me - 27th September basically marks the end of the busiest period of the work year for me. 
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Richard_2112 on March 24, 2015, 16:55:01 pm
Quote from: Captain Ron on March 24, 2015, 12:05:19 pm
Double bluray two night show. <drool>


I wouldn't be too sure of that Ron. Remember they didn't put a recording of the PT set from there because they couldn't justify the cost.
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Gandalf on March 28, 2015, 14:56:23 pm
Am I alone in thinking the album is a major disappointment?
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: pdw1 on March 28, 2015, 15:11:28 pm
Quote from: Gandalf on March 28, 2015, 14:56:23 pm
Am I alone in thinking the album is a major disappointment?

Yes ;)
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: pdw1 on March 28, 2015, 15:12:11 pm
Quote from: Richard_2112 on March 24, 2015, 16:55:01 pm
I wouldn't be too sure of that Ron. Remember they didn't put a recording of the PT set from there because they couldn't justify the cost.

RAH charges £10k  to record supposedly
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Bez on March 30, 2015, 20:39:50 pm
I thought the PT RAH show was recorded, so they must have paid the £10k..... :-\
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Bez on March 30, 2015, 20:43:20 pm
Quote from: Gandalf on March 28, 2015, 14:56:23 pm
Am I alone in thinking the album is a major disappointment?


It's not as good as folk around here seem to think, but it's better than I first thought. There are some stunningly beautiful moments, interspersed with some shite and still too much "prog by numbers" for me....

The live show that I saw helped put some of the material into perspective.
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Captain Ron on March 30, 2015, 23:53:24 pm
The album has been glued to my car stereo since I got it. I think it's a great piece of work.
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Neillwith2Ls on March 31, 2015, 16:20:35 pm
Yeah, the PT RAH gig was recorded - the last 3 tracks on CD2 of 'Octane Twisted' are from the October 2010 RAH gig.

I've had a bit of a break from HCE since the Troxy gig, before which I had it on repeat. I really connected with it back then, and the decision to spend 60 sheets on a RAH ticket was made all the easier for this reason. Since then, whilst I've not missed listening to it, I have actually become fascinated with the backstory and read a lot about the Joyce Carol Vincent case.

Also, the girl from the production videos is well nice :P
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: captainkurtz on March 31, 2015, 17:40:32 pm
Don't bother with the film - it's wank.
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Craig Smith on March 31, 2015, 18:58:06 pm
Quote from: Bez on March 30, 2015, 20:39:50 pm
I thought the PT RAH show was recorded, so they must have paid the £10k..... :-\


I'm sure the whole show was definitely  recorded as well but was there not some talk at the time that something had gone wrong, damage to the masters or something (somebody forgot to switching something on?) and they were only able to salvage certain tracks?
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Chris Quartly on March 31, 2015, 19:44:47 pm
They also never bloody released the Shepherds Bush Show from the Lightbulb Sun tour.
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: NeilP on April 01, 2015, 21:20:40 pm
I think the album is extraordinarily good
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Jonners on April 02, 2015, 12:05:04 pm
Ditto

Head and shoulders above anything new I have heard for a very long time

I think for me its the "simplicity" of it which appeals, Im sure its actually very complicated and musically difficult in reality, but to my untrained ears there is space for the musicians to express themselves to be heard, no real pretentious prog twiddling, and some very memorable hooks, tunes and choruses.

Luckily I am not getting drawn into the contest of who can spot the most influences/rip offs, and just enjoy it for what it is.
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Captain Ron on April 02, 2015, 12:39:32 pm
Quote from: Jonners on April 02, 2015, 12:05:04 pm
Ditto

Head and shoulders above anything new I have heard for a very long time

I think for me its the "simplicity" of it which appeals, Im sure its actually very complicated and musically difficult in reality, but to my untrained ears there is space for the musicians to express themselves to be heard, no real pretentious prog twiddling, and some very memorable hooks, tunes and choruses.

Luckily I am not getting drawn into the contest of who can spot the most influences/rip offs, and just enjoy it for what it is.


Good for you Jonners! There is complexity there alright but it's not "in your face" for the most part. A good example of this is the bridge passage before the final refrain in the title track. It's a deceptively simple sounding on the surface but there is quite a bit of lovely stuff going on if you listen carefully.
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: NeilP on April 02, 2015, 14:25:43 pm
All friends I've played it to (6/7) have been impressed enough to purchase and play regularly... they're now looking at back catalogues... praise indeed ;)
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: captainkurtz on April 02, 2015, 15:02:26 pm
Its the 3 long songs which elevate it from being merely 'good'.

Whats Raven like?  Similar to this?
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Captain Ron on April 02, 2015, 15:57:39 pm
If the long songs are more to your tastes then you probably should give "The Raven" a go. It's more overtly jazzy than HCE. Theo Travis does a lot of stellar woodwind on it. Personally I love it but it's not to everyone's taste. There's one flute solo on the song "The Watchmaker" that is just heartbreakingly lonely sounding. Magic stuff.
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Captain Ron on April 02, 2015, 15:59:17 pm
That's not an autocorrect error of "lovely" btw but it is that too. :)
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Jonners on April 02, 2015, 16:07:58 pm
Its a really good album, there is a nice extra release with all the demos of the songs, many of which I actually prefer to the final cuts

Songs like the Raven itself and Drive Home are sublime, Watchmaker as Ron says is a bit special too
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Captain Ron on April 02, 2015, 16:36:58 pm
The album is nearly worth it just for the guitar solo in Drive Home. More Govan Guthrie magic.
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: captainkurtz on April 02, 2015, 17:33:02 pm
Cheers - will order vinyl when I'm back from my jollies.
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Neph on April 02, 2015, 19:50:40 pm
The "prog by numbers" accusations aimed at HCE would be better directed at The Raven. Wilson himself stated that he was deliberately setting out to make a prog masterpiece with The Raven. Having said that, I do prefer The Raven to HCE.
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: DavidL on April 02, 2015, 22:48:44 pm
Quote from: Captain Ron on April 02, 2015, 16:36:58 pm
The album is nearly worth it just for the guitar solo in Drive Home. More Govan Guthrie magic.
Yes it's an absolute gem.
For me HCE is more reminiscent of a PT album than Raven. Much more use of melodic 'hooks' on HCE. SW has an uncanny knack of coming up with melodies that sound familiar but are (probably) original. A lot of PT stuff made me feel like that too.
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: NeilP on April 02, 2015, 23:25:44 pm
Agreed ^
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on April 03, 2015, 00:36:45 am
Quote from: Neph on April 02, 2015, 19:50:40 pm
The "prog by numbers" accusations aimed at HCE would be better directed at The Raven. Wilson himself stated that he was deliberately setting out to make a prog masterpiece with The Raven. Having said that, I do prefer The Raven to HCE.
I agree with Neph. Raven is an homage done well. HCE just comes across as clinical ,to me any road.
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Captain Ron on April 03, 2015, 15:18:55 pm
The Raven is certainly a deeper and less immediate work than HCE but I think they happily coexist rather than compete. They are quite different entities.
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: captainkurtz on April 03, 2015, 18:53:59 pm
Quote from: captainkurtz on February 23, 2015, 20:02:32 pm
I haven't heard it.  I won't hear it next week either, mind.  Or the week after that...

::)

Is the deluxe version worth getting?  What are the demos like?  And the studio film?
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: captainkurtz on April 04, 2015, 17:45:40 pm
Bought the deluxe version...noticed Amazon had some yesterday for £55 and checked Burning Shed and they had some leftovers too...

Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Nick on April 12, 2015, 15:43:56 pm
Still playing this, i love the guitar solos and especially the last one in Happy returns.
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Ali on April 18, 2015, 01:28:49 am
My deluxe version arrived from Burning Shed yesterday, to add to
the CD/DVD and vinyl versions already purchased (not to mention
last month's Manc/Wolvo tkts, both RAH shows, 2 t-shirts and a program -
well at least the two carrier bags were free!)

Amazon still has the deluxe version for £55
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: NeilP on April 18, 2015, 11:54:37 am
I haven't seen the t shirts for sale tbh... from BurningShed?
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: captainkurtz on April 18, 2015, 13:08:10 pm
Deluxe version arrived too.  Very nice.
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Ali on April 18, 2015, 19:16:03 pm
Quote from: NeilP on April 18, 2015, 11:54:37 am
I haven't seen the t shirts for sale tbh... from BurningShed?


Neil, just bought one design of T-shirt at each of the gigs I attended so far
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: NeilP on April 19, 2015, 00:41:50 am
Quote from: Ali on April 18, 2015, 19:16:03 pm
Neil, just bought one design of T-shirt at each of the gigs I attended so far


ah right mate, I didn't see any at the gigs I went to
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Captain Ron on April 20, 2015, 11:46:50 am
Wearing an HCE T right now. Album cover design on front. Tour dates and pretentious crytopwank font on rear. It's very nice. :) Didn't like the big face with vertical stripes design one. Bit morbid. One with the block of flats window array in closeup on the front would be good in a neo-physical graffiti sort of way.
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Presto-digitation on June 17, 2015, 00:19:27 am
Saw SW in San Francisco night before last.  Wonderful.  Better than the PT shows I have seen.  Full on family experience too, wife and all three kids. 
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: pdw1 on July 16, 2015, 21:37:36 pm
In case Steven Wilson has not taken enough of your money this year, more vinyl:

https://www.burningshed.com/store/kscope/product/272/6810/
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Neph on July 19, 2015, 20:55:29 pm
Quote from: pdw1 on July 16, 2015, 21:37:36 pm
In case Steven Wilson has not taken enough of your money this year, more vinyl:

https://www.burningshed.com/store/kscope/product/272/6810/


He claims it's a way of introducing people to his solo work but does a vinyl only release that will not be repressed. That's right Steven, if I was going to introduce anyone to your music it would be by giving them a 3 sided piece of vinyl.
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Ali on August 15, 2015, 12:49:25 pm
Amazon have the deluxe version of HCE back in stock
for fifty quid
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: pdw1 on August 26, 2015, 20:38:15 pm
The Transience version of Lazarus is included on the covermount CD of the new issue of Mojo.
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Captain Ron on August 27, 2015, 13:13:13 pm
Good spot Patrick! :)
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: pdw1 on August 29, 2015, 22:33:55 pm
And I now have that elusive Steven Wilson track.
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Bez on August 30, 2015, 19:20:52 pm
Quote from: pdw1 on August 29, 2015, 22:33:55 pm
And I now have that elusive Steven Wilson track.


Is it worth tracking down ?
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: pdw1 on August 30, 2015, 22:20:29 pm
Isnt everything recorded by SW worth owning in at least 5 different formats ;)

But seriously it's a lovely piano driven version of one of my favourite PT tracks with a nice guitar solo (from Gutherie?)
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Straight Shooter on August 31, 2015, 01:19:13 am
Quote from: Bez on August 30, 2015, 19:20:52 pm
Is it worth tracking down ?

The CD also has David Gilmour covering Here, There and Everywhere...
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Neillwith2Ls on September 01, 2015, 10:10:16 am
Ozric Tentacles is also on the MOJO CD. Their latest double album 'Technicians of The Sacred' is vintage Ozrics, wonderful daft stuff :)
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Neillwith2Ls on September 03, 2015, 11:22:41 am
Quote from: Bez on August 30, 2015, 19:20:52 pm
Is it worth tracking down ?


Check yer mail ;)
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: captainkurtz on October 20, 2015, 13:31:28 pm
Do we have numbers for those coming down from Scotland for the Newcastle show...eating in the restaurant that I'll be booking for us tonight...was thinking of being super organised and booking us in so we can get one of the best tables...it's the only curry I'm happy to eat that the wife hasn't cooked...

JonL?  neph?  Willie, Gordon? Pete?  Numbers anyone?
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: BaldiePete on October 20, 2015, 17:30:28 pm
It's months away  :o

Anyway. Me, Richard, Phil, Gordon, Neph, Gman and Willie are all heading down.
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: captainkurtz on October 20, 2015, 17:49:12 pm
It's not that long away...and it's a Saturday night...and I notice that they've recently gone to number 1 on trip advisor for places to eat in Newcastle...it's a large crowd so best to book.  It's a great place in a ropey part of town..we can organise a cab and I can carry 4 in the motor.
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: captainkurtz on October 20, 2015, 18:36:30 pm
You're right.  Too ealry.  Will book early December.

Not the first time I've been premature.  :-[
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Richard_2112 on October 30, 2015, 01:29:57 am
Out of morbid curiosity I dug out H.C.E while I was on a road trip for work recently and it is just tedious! It starts off fairly well with 3 Years Older and H.C.E but then it just drags. There are some moments of brilliance in there - the spoken word bit in Perfect Life and some parts of Routine (if you haven't seen the video for that yet make sure you do - brings out the song so much better than just listening to it), but the rest is just... dull.

I said when I first heard this album that I thought it was really derivative and I still stick by that statement - lots of elements from other bands that have done it better (Porcupine Tree included)
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: captainkurtz on October 30, 2015, 10:34:08 am
The other way around for me.  I find PT difficult to love, but have really enjoyed the last 2 SW records.

I am slightly worries that he is only as goos as the people he surrounds himself with, sio it will be interesting to hear this new EP in January, now that Guthrie and Marco have seemingly gone...
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Jonners on October 30, 2015, 10:53:24 am
Im with your Captain, I find PT almost unlistenable now after Raven and HCE

If Im stuck for something to listen to, HCE gets a spin (or Powerslave!)
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Fishy on October 30, 2015, 11:04:38 am
Quote from: captainkurtz on October 30, 2015, 10:34:08 am
The other way around for me.  I find PT difficult to love, but have really enjoyed the last 2 SW records.




Hits nail on head.... 8)
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Captain Ron on October 30, 2015, 12:19:31 pm
I still love both PT and SW's solo stuff. Much goodness throughout all of it.
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: pdw1 on November 05, 2015, 21:17:20 pm
From the website:

    22nd January will see the release of a new Steven Wilson album "4 ½", so titled because it forms an interim release between Steven's recently released fourth album Hand. Cannot. Erase. and the next studio album.

    4 ½ comprises 6 tracks with a total running time of 37 minutes. 4 of the songs originated during the sessions for Hand. Cannot. Erase., and one from the recording sessions for the previous album The Raven that Refused to Sing. The final track is a version of Don't Hate Me, a song originally recorded by Porcupine Tree in 1998, and is based on a live recording made on the recent tour of Europe with additional recording later done in the studio. The vocals on this new version are sung as a duet between Steven and Ninet Tayeb.

    Also appearing on the album are members of Steven's band over the last few years; Adam Holzman, Nick Beggs, Guthrie Govan, Dave Kilminster, Craig Blundell, Marco Minnemann, Chad Wackerman, and Theo Travis.

    4 ½ will be released by Kscope on CD, 180 gram vinyl, and blu-ray, with all formats housed in a beautiful die-cut sleeve photographed by Lasse Hoile and designed by Carl Glover. The blu-ray (audio only) edition includes high res stereo, a 5.1 mix of the album, and a bonus 5.1 mix of the new version of Lazarus (recently included on the Transience vinyl compilation). The vinyl edition will include a download code for the album in a choice of FLAC or mp3. The album will also be available digitally on 22nd January from iTunes, Amazon, Google Play & Apple Music.

    Steven Wilson - "4 ½"

    1. My Book of Regrets (9.23)
    2. Year of the Plague (4.15)
    3. Happiness III (4.31)
    4. Sunday Rain Sets In (3.50)
    5. Vermillioncore (5.09)
    6. Don't Hate Me (9.34)


Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: pdw1 on November 05, 2015, 21:18:03 pm
AND

you can subscribe to the Steven Wilson newsletter. Issue 1 comes out next week and will include an in-depth interview with Steven about the new album: http://stevenwilsonhq.com/sw/subscribe-to-steven-wilsons-newsletter/
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Captain Ron on November 06, 2015, 12:17:31 pm
Yum. Bluray for me thankyou very much. Shame he couldn't get it released before Christmas.
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Simon_LDT on November 06, 2015, 14:46:05 pm
Wasn't expecting this announcement so soon! Would have liked a CD/Blu package similar to Drive Home EP but think will go for Blu-ray and Vinyl. Will wait it out a while though and see what other retailers price at.

Shame there is no video content on the blu-ray (Still waiting for the Routine video) but I would assume he'll save that for the Live release next year.
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Neillwith2Ls on November 26, 2015, 14:43:16 pm
Yet again, I'll get the new album a mere 4 days before going to see him live. He does have a habit of doing this.. I seem to remember getting a similar amount of new album familiarisation time before the Spring 2015 HCE shows.
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Neillwith2Ls on February 25, 2016, 16:44:41 pm
SW has collaborated with ex-Mansun mainman Paul Draper on his debut solo single out in April. Vinyl only, and limited to 500 copies... I'll wait for the album on CD I think. Mansun's 'Six' album is properly-prog, made when it wasn't at all fashionable in the late 90's (not for 'Britpop' bands anyway). Have always really liked Mansun, and I look forward to hearing this collaboration.
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Jonners on February 25, 2016, 16:55:56 pm
I used to love Wide Open SPace by Mansun. really good song
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Jonners on April 14, 2016, 10:55:31 am
And for the Ninet fans out there, her new video with her in a leather catsuit and a massive whip!

http://www.craveonline.com/music/976563-video-premiere-ninet-tayeb-orchestrates-revenge-wild-superstar-clip

I'm off to a darkened room......
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Neillwith2Ls on April 21, 2016, 13:44:16 pm
Thanks for that, my day's improved drastically! :D
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Neph on November 09, 2016, 18:38:45 pm
I was watching a Guthrie Govan interview last night. The last question was about his plans for next year. He mentioned that he would be playing with someone that he's played with a lot in the past and it's not The Aristocrats. It sounds like it will be Steven Wilson but I'm not sure who else he has played with in the past. Anyone else got any ideas?
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: pdw1 on November 09, 2016, 18:51:10 pm
Quote from: Neph on November 09, 2016, 18:38:45 pm
I was watching a Guthrie Govan interview last night. The last question was about his plans for next year. He mentioned that he would be playing with someone that he's played with a lot in the past and it's not The Aristocrats. It sounds like it will be Steven Wilson but I'm not sure who else he has played with in the past. Anyone else got any ideas?

Asia?
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: captainkurtz on November 09, 2016, 19:20:26 pm
Could be Wilson - thingys busy with the Roger Waters tour, I'd imagine.
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: BaldiePete on November 10, 2016, 00:12:05 am
He might be playing on a new album. Wilson has toured HCE to death and it must be time for a new album.
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Jonners on November 10, 2016, 15:09:00 pm
please let it be so.

I never tire of HCE, its my go to album
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: captainkurtz on November 10, 2016, 15:17:22 pm
Shame Minnieman won't be involved...
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Matt2112 on November 10, 2016, 16:48:33 pm
Quote from: captainkurtz on November 10, 2016, 15:17:22 pm
Shame Minnieman won't be involved...


He's rehearsing for the rehearsal of next year's HYF30 tour.  :)
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Jonners on November 10, 2016, 18:06:54 pm
Quote from: captainkurtz on November 10, 2016, 15:17:22 pm
Shame Minnieman won't be involved...


Why not?
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: captainkurtz on November 10, 2016, 18:41:13 pm
Quote from: Jonners on November 10, 2016, 18:06:54 pm
Why not?

Thingy's the permanent drummer now - the one with the complex about not being as good as Minnieman.

Plus Minnieman had a veiled (not really) pop at Wilson on Facebook recently for not receiving a gold disc for HCE and learning about it on FB - which is fair enough really....

Good shout on Minnieman playing with Lee & Lifeson though - that I'd pay to see...
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Neph on November 10, 2016, 20:36:23 pm
Quote from: captainkurtz on November 10, 2016, 18:41:13 pm
Thingy's the permanent drummer now - the one with the complex about not being as good as Minnieman.

Plus Minnieman had a veiled (not really) pop at Wilson on Facebook recently for not receiving a gold disc for HCE and learning about it on FB - which is fair enough really....

Good shout on Minnieman playing with Lee & Lifeson though - that I'd pay to see...



Does SW have permanent members? He dumped PT so I'm not convinced he's particularly loyal to any musician.
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: captainkurtz on November 10, 2016, 21:04:50 pm
Craig Thingy alluded to the fact that he'd be busy with Wilson next year working on the new record...

You wouldn't want to lose that Minnieman/Beggs/Guthrie core if you could help it...
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Oor Wullie on November 13, 2016, 16:26:15 pm
Isn't the current lineup still SW, Nick Beggs, Adam Holzman, Dave Kilminster and Craig Blundell?

Blunders will be busy with Frost* next year (seeing them in April 2017), and I think Kilminster is away touring with Roger Waters.

Does that mean that Govan and Minneman could be back in the touring band?

At the end of the day, it doesn't matter who's in the band, I'll be buying the new album whenever SW decides to record and release it, and I'll be there at at least one gig in 2017/2018.

And Hand. Cannot. Erase. is still one of my favourite albums EVER!!!
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Nick on November 13, 2016, 17:55:53 pm
Yes I agree it is a great album, saw them twice on the tour. Hope Govan is part of the next one, I think Wilson alluded to Ninet playing a larger part on the next one and that it would be a departure from HCE.
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Fishy on December 12, 2016, 21:40:30 pm
from Andy Partridge's (XTC)  twitter..."Steven Wilson starts recording his new album today,including two songs co-written with me. Do well Steven"
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Graham Hyde on December 13, 2016, 13:56:12 pm
Quote from: Fishy on December 12, 2016, 21:40:30 pm
from Andy Partridge's (XTC)  twitter..."Steven Wilson starts recording his new album today,including two songs co-written with me. Do well Steven"


Can I ask is the Alan Partridge connection to be considered a good or bad thing ?
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: captainkurtz on December 13, 2016, 14:24:19 pm
Less prog more pop?
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: DavidL on December 13, 2016, 14:42:16 pm
Quote from: Graham Hyde on December 13, 2016, 13:56:12 pm
Can I ask is the Alan Partridge connection to be considered a good or bad thing ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpgA3Mttx1M

(( ;D ))
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Graham Hyde on December 14, 2016, 09:28:40 am
Quote from: DavidL on December 13, 2016, 14:42:16 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpgA3Mttx1M

(( ;D ))


Oops - I wish I could say that was a deliberate mistake.
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: BaldiePete on December 15, 2016, 18:07:41 pm
Posted a few minutes ago by Craig Blundell.

https://www.facebook.com/craigblundelldrums/posts/1198639423559173:0 (https://www.facebook.com/craigblundelldrums/posts/1198639423559173:0)

I guess now would be a good time as any to say as any, today I'm day one of tracking drums for Steven Wilson's 5th full studio album. So much has happened and so much has changed since our first chat on the phone when I was invited to audition for him nearly two years ago, it's still very hard to comprehend and get my head around but it's another big challenge and I feel very honoured and privileged.


To be creative and play my own parts for Steven on this incredible music is an absolute dream come true......as always, thank you for your incredible support, first one is in the bag :)
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Nick on December 15, 2016, 20:46:57 pm
Fingers crossed on the Guthrie front.

He could get Alex and Geddy to guest on a tune.
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: captainkurtz on December 15, 2016, 22:24:19 pm
Great shame that MM isn't involved.

Not overly keen on CB. 
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Norwegian on December 21, 2016, 15:10:59 pm
Quote from: Graham Hyde on December 14, 2016, 09:28:40 am
Oops - I wish I could say that was a deliberate mistake.
;D ;D
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: captainkurtz on December 21, 2016, 15:20:48 pm
Dave Kilminster appears to be recording with Roger Waters at the minute...wonder who is playing guitar with Wilson?  If band politics and loyalty are playing a part will GG want to be involved?
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: BaldiePete on January 05, 2017, 17:47:03 pm
Clip from recording sessions of new album.

https://youtu.be/dEFvI-Tmezo (https://youtu.be/dEFvI-Tmezo)
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Bisto on January 05, 2017, 18:52:10 pm
Quote from: BaldiePete on January 05, 2017, 17:47:03 pm
Clip from recording sessions of new album.

https://youtu.be/dEFvI-Tmezo (https://youtu.be/dEFvI-Tmezo)



Cheers Pete!  :)  She's got a lovely voice (unlike SW)
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Nick on January 05, 2017, 19:01:36 pm
Nice..sounds great on the fade out part as well. Moist.
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Richard_2112 on January 05, 2017, 20:18:28 pm
Quote from: Bisto on January 05, 2017, 18:52:10 pm

Cheers Pete!  :)  She's got a lovely voice (unlike SW)

Very interesting when you put a decent voice up against SW. In the context of him on his own it works - but doing a duet really shines a light on what an average voice he has.


Oh, and just like all his other solo stuff - this sounds really boring.
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: captainkurtz on January 05, 2017, 22:42:31 pm
Will sound better in the context of the record as a whole.  As a teaser/standalone...meh.

Wonder who the main personnel are?
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Bez on January 05, 2017, 23:19:26 pm
Quote from: captainkurtz on January 05, 2017, 22:42:31 pm
Will sound better in the context of the record as a whole.  As a teaser/standalone...meh.

Wonder who the main personnel are?


Blundell's FB page has had posts from his work on the album recently...
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Bisto on January 06, 2017, 01:52:16 am
Quote from: Richard_2112 on January 05, 2017, 20:18:28 pm
Very interesting when you put a decent voice up against SW. In the context of him on his own it works - but doing a duet really shines a light on what an average voice he has.


Oh, and just like all his other solo stuff - this sounds really boring.



I wouldn't go so far as to say its average...unless you mean in terms of the general public.
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Richard_2112 on January 06, 2017, 02:28:39 am
Quote from: Bisto on January 06, 2017, 01:52:16 am

I wouldn't go so far as to say its average...unless you mean in terms of the general public.

In terms of range, ability, and overall musicality - when you listen to Nina she was a lovely voice that you want to listen to.
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Jonners on January 06, 2017, 14:50:00 pm
I wont pass judgement just yet.

Imagine if Rush had released a snippet from the start of Discovery from 2112, we would have all panicked
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Bisto on January 08, 2017, 20:12:22 pm
Quote from: Richard_2112 on January 06, 2017, 02:28:39 am
In terms of range, ability, and overall musicality - when you listen to Nina she was a lovely voice that you want to listen to.



When I said; "I wouldn't go that far..." I meant (imho) his voice is less than average (compared to most pro singers)
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Nick on February 12, 2017, 21:07:42 pm
Ooh tasty.. https://www.instagram.com/p/BQa9_nnDBsM/?taken-by=stevenwilsonhq
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Fishy on February 18, 2017, 22:51:34 pm
from Andy Partridge's twitter..

"Just heard the mixes of 2 co-writes I did with Steven Wilson,for his new album.Really thrilling mixes,the word EPIC came to mind.Huge sounds"

Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: DavidL on February 19, 2017, 09:40:22 am
Quote from: Fishy on February 18, 2017, 22:51:34 pm
from Andy Partridge's twitter..

"Just heard the mixes of 2 co-writes I did with Steven Wilson,for his new album.Really thrilling mixes,the word EPIC came to mind.Huge sounds"
Sounds like our 'senses will be working overtime' when this comes out
  ::)
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Straight Shooter on February 19, 2017, 18:34:07 pm
Quote from: DavidL on February 19, 2017, 09:40:22 am
Sounds like our 'senses will be working overtime' when this comes out
  ::)

After that David, you should just Go 2.......  :P
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: DavidL on February 19, 2017, 19:24:39 pm
Quote from: Straight Shooter on February 19, 2017, 18:34:07 pm
After that David, you should just Go 2.......  :P
Now, now, don't lose your temper..... :P :P
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Jonners on May 09, 2017, 12:21:35 pm
Well well well.......

http://zaphod.uk.vvhp.net/viewemail?con=17579751&cmp=12421&act=514208&subj=0&sec=0a486f8e2d91&webversionpage=1

Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Thenop on May 09, 2017, 15:35:40 pm
I think Pariah is a gorgeous song. Bring on August 18!
Not sure about the cover, although I like the colour scheme. Reminds me of Talking Heads' Remain in the Light.
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: pdw1 on May 09, 2017, 19:11:39 pm
And you can order it now
https://store.universalmusic.com/stevenwilson/

Usual huge box set available for nutters like me :)
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: captainkurtz on May 09, 2017, 20:57:50 pm
Ordered deluxe too, although I wish it had vinyls instead of CD's
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: pdw1 on May 09, 2017, 21:15:30 pm
Quote from: captainkurtz on May 09, 2017, 20:57:50 pm
Ordered deluxe too, although I wish it had vinyls instead of CD's

You can buy that separately then think of SW gently floating off into the sunset on his yacht.
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Thenop on May 10, 2017, 07:53:35 am
Quote from: pdw1 on May 09, 2017, 21:15:30 pm
You can buy that separately then think of SW gently floating off into the sunset on his yacht.



Since he has crossed the bridge into major label territory, you best think of the president of Universal floating off on (one of) his yacht(s).
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: BaldiePete on May 18, 2017, 13:18:21 pm
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v308/BaldiePete/DCEF4E7A-E2DC-462E-AC94-C27C0E41F84C_zpsk3jsovit.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/BaldiePete/media/DCEF4E7A-E2DC-462E-AC94-C27C0E41F84C_zpsk3jsovit.jpg.html)
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Straight Shooter on May 18, 2017, 14:05:29 pm
 ;D
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Nick on May 23, 2017, 21:42:39 pm
Steven Wilson - guitars, vocals, production
David Kollar - guitars
Mark Feltham - harmonica on "To the Bone"
Nick Beggs - bass, Chapman stick
Andy Partridge - composer
Jeremy Stacey - drums
Craig Blundell - drums
Ninet Tayeb - vocals on "Pariah" and "Blank Tapes"
Adam Holzman - keyboards
Sophie Hunger - vocals on "Song of I"
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Jonners on May 24, 2017, 10:12:09 am
David Kollar-styles Jazz and experimental

hmmm....
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: captainkurtz on May 24, 2017, 10:21:27 am
Quote from: Nick on May 23, 2017, 21:42:39 pm
Steven Wilson - guitars, vocals, production
David Kollar - guitars
Mark Feltham - harmonica on "To the Bone"
Nick Beggs - bass, Chapman stick
Andy Partridge - composer
Jeremy Stacey - drums
Craig Blundell - drums
Ninet Tayeb - vocals on "Pariah" and "Blank Tapes"
Adam Holzman - keyboards
Sophie Hunger - vocals on "Song of I"

Kollar only plays on a few tracks according to his site.

The tone of a CB post last week sounded like he wasn't going to be involved in the tour...although I may have read it wrong..
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Neph on May 25, 2017, 23:58:08 pm
I still think it will be Guthrie Govan that will do the tour.
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: NeilP on May 26, 2017, 02:30:06 am
it will be  Michael ;)
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: captainkurtz on May 26, 2017, 12:03:47 pm
That would be good.  What makes you think he will be here, though?  I assumed that with the MM fallout, GG wouldn't want to play, either..
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: BaldiePete on May 26, 2017, 18:34:28 pm
Craig Blundell has confirmed on Facebook that he is playing on the tour.
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Nick on May 26, 2017, 19:04:48 pm
Wilson playing lead on the album. Be interesting guitarist selection for the tour if they have got to replicate Kollar's style and Guvens solos.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1862559417343553&set=pcb.1600164780016364&type=3&theater
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Jonners on June 02, 2017, 14:21:51 pm
any thoughts on the new song,  Same Asylum as before.....
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Nick on June 02, 2017, 14:40:52 pm
Yes I like it, reminds me of Tears for fears meets Led Zep meets porcupine tree.
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Nick on June 02, 2017, 21:51:56 pm
The production quality is excellent.
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Nick on June 09, 2017, 18:51:29 pm
and another http://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/rock/7825580/exclusive-steven-wilson-song-of-i
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Jonners on June 12, 2017, 11:06:03 am
If he keeps mentioning Kate Bush, I may have to get one of her albums to see what all the fuss is about....
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: captainkurtz on June 12, 2017, 12:57:20 pm
A pair of 5th row centre for Sage, if anyone is after a pair....
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: BaldiePete on June 12, 2017, 21:13:44 pm
Quote from: captainkurtz on June 12, 2017, 12:57:20 pm
A pair of 5th row centre for Sage, if anyone is after a pair....



Only 5th row  :o  You've lost your touch  ;)
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: captainkurtz on June 13, 2017, 13:34:24 pm
Quote from: BaldiePete on June 12, 2017, 21:13:44 pm

Only 5th row  :o  You've lost your touch  ;)

;D
Got 2nd row centre in the general sale...the front rows they had were'nt central enough...

Not even sure whether or not it'd be better in the 5th row...going with vertically challenged Wife, but these will be sitty down jobs, I'd imagine...
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: pdw1 on June 30, 2017, 19:16:10 pm
Well this will put the cat among the pigeons

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4LfUDV1x5s&t=0s

ABBA meets ELO
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Bisto on June 30, 2017, 19:35:48 pm
Im probably bring unfair but what a pretentious twat SW is!
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: pdw1 on June 30, 2017, 19:53:18 pm
Quote from: Bisto on June 30, 2017, 19:35:48 pm
Im probably bring unfair but what a pretentious twat SW is!

That's why we like him ;)
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Nick on June 30, 2017, 20:40:29 pm
This is the potential divisive song, I think it's a great little summer number. Going to be an interesting tour. Poptastic mates.
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: NeilP on June 30, 2017, 23:13:56 pm
we'll all buy it
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: DavidL on July 01, 2017, 00:56:33 am
Quote from: Bisto on June 30, 2017, 19:35:48 pm
Im probably bring unfair but what a pretentious twat SW is!
Yes, he's starting to grate on me a little now, too. I may have to give this one a swerve.
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Neph on July 15, 2017, 21:02:39 pm
I've been a bit undecided on the songs released from the new album but I'm quite taken by Permanating. I always think that he's at his best when he's writing "pop tunes".
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Jonners on July 27, 2017, 17:01:09 pm
we fear change
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: pdw1 on July 27, 2017, 18:51:02 pm
Quote from: Jonners on July 27, 2017, 17:01:09 pm
we fear change

You may speak the truth but you seem to only be able to talk in management speak.
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on July 27, 2017, 19:22:17 pm
Quote from: Jonners on July 27, 2017, 17:01:09 pm
we fear change

That's why I always pay by Credit Card.
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Jonners on July 28, 2017, 11:50:12 am
I have deliberately only listened to each new song once, too mant times I have overdosed on new songs as they are released.

That may well be the only time I listen to permanating. Just not my thing
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: captainkurtz on July 28, 2017, 15:35:20 pm
I'm with Jonners.

I like pop stuff, but the song is a bag of shit and Wilson doesn't have the (any?) personality to carry it off, anyway.

Hate the video as well.  fecking hate Bollywood bollocks.  I got forced to have indian drummers as I made my entrance with the Missus when I got married.  You can see my gritted teeth.
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Jonners on July 28, 2017, 16:13:17 pm
I was at a wedding last week where there is some fairly incriminating footage of me doing some bollywood/bangra style lightbulb changing and locking legs with an indian mate of mine. Shocking

On a personal note though, nice bit of eye candy for me, detracts from the fact the song is cack
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: captainkurtz on July 28, 2017, 16:15:33 pm
Yes, I do like a pretty asian lady.  Which is quite handy, when you think about it...
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Nick on July 31, 2017, 19:01:23 pm
Enjoying the new album as i thought i might. Also managed to get a ticket to the HMV Oxford st signing session on Friday 18th with Steven and Ninet (going to have to take a sickie).
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Jonners on August 01, 2017, 15:43:19 pm
I have listened to it once so far, and it does seem to be very, very good.

Forget all the outrage at the pop song (anyone thing the chorus sounds like Abba, mamma mia) the rest is really good.

Lots of good tunes, musicianship, lovely production that gives everything space to breathe
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: captainkurtz on August 01, 2017, 21:30:24 pm
Quote from: Nick on July 31, 2017, 19:01:23 pm
Enjoying the new album as i thought i might. Also managed to get a ticket to the HMV Oxford st signing session on Friday 18th with Steven and Ninet (going to have to take a sickie).

Got one too, but doubt I'll be able to make it..
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Jonners on August 02, 2017, 10:10:48 am
Refuge, Song of I and Pariah are the stand outs for me so far.

Good album.
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Commander Cody on August 09, 2017, 19:28:05 pm
Quote from: Nick on July 31, 2017, 19:01:23 pm
Enjoying the new album as i thought i might. Also managed to get a ticket to the HMV Oxford st signing session on Friday 18th with Steven and Ninet (going to have to take a sickie).



Loudly request Radioactive Toy between songs, he always used to really appreciate it! Sadly there are far too many people at his gigs nowadays to properly heckle.


Can't say I've been particularly bowled over by any of the new songs I've heard especially Permanating which is a proper duffer.
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: captainkurtz on August 13, 2017, 14:14:45 pm
I won't make the HMV thing on Friday - if anyone wants my ticket, drop me a PM...
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Neillwith2Ls on August 16, 2017, 16:25:41 pm
I'm out of the loop having been on holiday for 3 weeks - is the new album 'out out', or just 'available'? :D
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Nick on August 16, 2017, 17:04:06 pm
Officially out on Friday I think.
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Jonners on August 17, 2017, 12:08:16 pm
but definitely available
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Thenop on August 17, 2017, 17:22:10 pm
Bought the LP today, was already on the shelf
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Neillwith2Ls on August 18, 2017, 16:12:20 pm
Sounds good on first listen, no abrupt shift in direction either.
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: BaldiePete on August 18, 2017, 17:29:04 pm
I like it. It's more like mid-period PT than his solo releases so far but since Stupid Dream is one of my favourite PT albums I'm quite happy with that. He really shouldn't put pictures of himself on the album cover though. 
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Oor Wullie on August 19, 2017, 14:01:42 pm
When I had heard a couple of the singles before the album's release, I thought, "hmmmm ok" but after hearing the whole album in its entirety I think it's brilliant.

The stand out tracks for me are To The Bone, Pariah, The Same Asylum As Before, People Who Eat Darkness, Detonation and Song Of Unborn.

Not too keen on Song Of I. Found it a bit boring.

But overall a fantastic album. Can't wait to hear these songs live on tour in 2018.
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Bez on August 21, 2017, 08:36:13 am
As ever, I'm unimpressed on first couple of listens....

Possibly his worst ever vocal performance.
Sound is fantastic
Its all very well liking "pop" but the pop track on the album jars


Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Jonners on August 21, 2017, 14:37:50 pm
Think I will probably hold on to about 4 tracks. Pariak, Refuge, to the bone and Song of I

The rest leave me cold after a few repeated listens

And the pop song is rubbish
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: captainkurtz on August 21, 2017, 14:47:13 pm
The first and last song sound like Level 42, to me.  Probably less cool to namecheck than Peter Gabriel, Kate Bush, Talk Talk, XTC, etc.

His singing sounds the same as it always does - devoid of any personality or character.

I'd give it a 3/5, Some of the songs are quite pedestrian and then go off on a tangent and become quite brilliant...

Looking forward to the tour - gagging to know who is playing guitar - I'd have thought DK would be busy with Roger Waters for much of next year...
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Jonners on August 21, 2017, 17:45:34 pm
who is the guy playing the guitar solo on the studio video of them recording refuge?
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Thenop on August 21, 2017, 19:27:55 pm
"This clip features work being done one of the album's most epic and cinematic pieces Refuge, including the guitar solo played by co-producer Paul Stacey​"
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Nick on August 21, 2017, 21:35:04 pm
Paul Stacey also played in the Black Crows for a while.
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Nick on August 21, 2017, 21:39:49 pm
Quote from: captainkurtz on August 21, 2017, 14:47:13 pm

Looking forward to the tour - gagging to know who is playing guitar - I'd have thought DK would be busy with Roger Waters for much of next year...


I met him on Friday at the HMV show, forgot to ask the most important question of all. He was very good and so was Ninet (met her as well,hot..amazing eyes). Kollar is definitely not doing the live guitar, Kilminsters out with Waters so it must be Govan as i think the Hans Zimmer tour has now finished. Please Please Please.
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Nick on August 23, 2017, 19:38:37 pm
Its Alex Hutchings (never heard of him), sounds tasty though.. https://youtu.be/fShVepYm7cg (https://youtu.be/fShVepYm7cg)
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: pdw1 on August 24, 2017, 19:53:07 pm
and now the main stream media is taking notice

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2017/aug/24/steven-wilson-the-prog-rocker-topping-the-charts-without-anyone-noticing

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/music/what-to-listen-to/steven-wilson-bone-album-track-track-interview/
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: captainkurtz on September 02, 2017, 13:50:02 pm
Jesus, the documentary is dull.

Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Straight Shooter on September 03, 2017, 15:42:26 pm
Quote from: captainkurtz on September 02, 2017, 13:50:02 pm
Jesus, the documentary is dull.

** SPOILER ALERT **  :P
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: pdw1 on September 06, 2017, 22:52:37 pm
if you don't like his vocals
https://youtu.be/RmsGAkShZsk
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Richard_2112 on September 11, 2017, 00:08:33 am
Thanks to his work with Porcupine Tree and Blackfield I always have a morbid curiosity regarding Wilson's solo work hoping he might reach those magical highs again, but once again it's nothing but disappointment. It's got the same derivative qualities as Hand.Cannot.Erase but this one is just plain dull.
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Commander Cody on October 03, 2017, 13:56:02 pm
Hasn't been on since the first week of release. Three duffers in a row for me if you include 4.5. Personally would like to see him reform the Tree but given that he's gone all Brian Pern about it, that would seem a fairly remote prospect nowadays.
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Jonners on October 03, 2017, 15:22:37 pm
I can see parallels between what Wilson is doing and what has happened to Opeth since they reinvented themselves. Really polarising opinions
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Bisto on October 07, 2017, 20:27:20 pm
Quote from: Jonners on October 03, 2017, 15:22:37 pm
I can see parallels between what Wilson is doing and what has happened to Opeth since they reinvented themselves. Really polarising opinions



Pretty much given up on them both tbh...would much rather listen to Soen than either....criminally underexposed / underappreciated band who should be selling out 3-4,000 seaters!!
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: BaldiePete on January 03, 2018, 00:29:58 am
New Year Message from SW.

http://stevenwilsonhq.com/sw/steven-wilsons-2018-new-year-update/ (http://"http://stevenwilsonhq.com/sw/steven-wilsons-2018-new-year-update/")

I like this part :D

Quote
Moving into 2018, the big event is touring most of the year with my band. As well as playing music from To the Bone, I'm going to be dedicating some of the repertoire to two albums that are soon to receive high-profile reissues, which are In Absentia and Deadwing
Title: Re: New Steven Wilson Album
Post by: Bez on January 03, 2018, 09:16:55 am
Quote from: BaldiePete on January 03, 2018, 00:29:58 am
New Year Message from SW.

http://stevenwilsonhq.com/sw/steven-wilsons-2018-new-year-update/ (http://"http://stevenwilsonhq.com/sw/steven-wilsons-2018-new-year-update/")

I like this part :D


Yep, I saw that as well....it'll be interesting to see if he dusts off anything more "leftfield" than Trains, Sound of Muzak & Lazarus....