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Title: UK legs attendances
Post by: zoony on May 27, 2013, 17:19:17 pm
If anyone finds a link regarding the attendances to the UK shows, could you post it on here please? There were a lot of seats curtained off at the back at the LG last night, but I'd say there was over 15,000 at the O2.
Title: Re: UK legs attendances
Post by: Commander Cody on May 27, 2013, 17:40:11 pm
Almost all of the top tier curtained off at MEN. I think it holds around 14K when full with the end-stage setup. Lowest turnout at MEN for Rush since the first gig during the R30 tour. Guess around 9K.
Title: Re: UK legs attendances
Post by: NeilP on May 27, 2013, 17:45:01 pm
MEN in the round is 20,400 capacity, a little under 16,000 for stage end all seated
Title: Re: UK legs attendances
Post by: skiddaw on May 27, 2013, 17:50:25 pm
The security and catering teams were told to expect 7500 at their pre show briefings.
I would say that's about right seeing there was so many top tier seats curtained off
Title: Re: UK legs attendances
Post by: captainkurtz on May 27, 2013, 18:31:58 pm
Still, so far, attendances have looked reasonably decent.  Especially given the prices and the fact they were here in 2011. 

I expect to see tumbleweed floating through the aisles in Sheffield.
Title: Re: UK legs attendances
Post by: NeilP on May 27, 2013, 18:54:13 pm
Was the whole of the upper tier curtained off at MEN, thought it was just a few parts tbh?
Title: Re: UK legs attendances
Post by: Nulli Secundus on May 27, 2013, 18:55:52 pm
I noticed a lot of the top tier was curtained off at the MEN and there were spaces on the sides too.

I see there are still good tickets left on the Sheffield Arena website both on the floor and on the sides.
Title: Re: UK legs attendances
Post by: captainkurtz on May 27, 2013, 18:57:02 pm
Quote from: NeilP on May 27, 2013, 18:54:13 pm
Was the whole of the upper tier curtained off at MEN, thought it was just a few parts tbh?

Yeah - not all curtained off - the back was, but there were plenty people at the side.
Title: Re: UK legs attendances
Post by: Pricey on May 27, 2013, 19:07:43 pm
Your comment anticipating Sheffield to  being like at a sound check made me laugh yesterday
Title: Re: UK legs attendances
Post by: Nick on May 27, 2013, 19:08:55 pm
http://photos.rush.com/Rush2013/Manchester-UK/29571419_JSNTtH#!i=2528991747&k=TPLr8Mg
http://photos.rush.com/Rush2013/London-UK/29606440_nzSDjS#!i=2532960391&k=B2wNxtJ&lb=1&s=A

No images of Birmingham crowd but i would say 90% full?
Title: Re: UK legs attendances
Post by: ophidianman on May 27, 2013, 19:13:20 pm
Zoony......

I was the slaphead that shouted 'Zoony' and waved at you before the start of the 2nd set from the l/h side tier at the back of the arena. I could see 'who the feck are you' was going through your brain  ;).

Great gig, much better than Manchester in my estimation.
Title: Re: UK legs attendances
Post by: Bez on May 27, 2013, 19:24:46 pm
Quote from: Nick on May 27, 2013, 19:08:55 pm
http://photos.rush.com/Rush2013/Manchester-UK/29571419_JSNTtH#!i=2528991747&k=TPLr8Mg
http://photos.rush.com/Rush2013/London-UK/29606440_nzSDjS#!i=2532960391&k=B2wNxtJ&lb=1&s=A

No images of Birmingham crowd but i would say 90% full?


There was a big area at the back curtained off....most of the rest looked pretty full to me though
Title: Re: UK legs attendances
Post by: Thailand Express on May 27, 2013, 20:58:28 pm
Not much left for Glasgow, although I see they've now reduced some prices to £35....
Title: Re: UK legs attendances
Post by: zoony on May 27, 2013, 22:31:53 pm
Quote from: ophidianman on May 27, 2013, 19:13:20 pm
Zoony......

I was the slaphead that shouted 'Zoony' and waved at you before the start of the 2nd set from the l/h side tier at the back of the arena. I could see 'who the feck are you' was going through your brain  ;).




Heeeyy, nice to have "met" you mate  ;).
Title: Re: UK legs attendances
Post by: Nick on May 29, 2013, 19:52:38 pm
Quote from: Nick on May 27, 2013, 19:08:55 pm
http://photos.rush.com/Rush2013/Manchester-UK/29571419_JSNTtH#!i=2528991747&k=TPLr8Mg
http://photos.rush.com/Rush2013/London-UK/29606440_nzSDjS#!i=2532960391&k=B2wNxtJ&lb=1&s=A

No images of Birmingham crowd but i would say 90% full?


http://photos.rush.com/Rush2013/Sheffield-UK/29677354_G48kqh#!i=2540713716&k=2LkHgWB

Back of Sheffield looked very empty, how full was it?
Title: Re: UK legs attendances
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on May 29, 2013, 21:23:33 pm
Quote from: Nick on May 29, 2013, 19:52:38 pm
http://photos.rush.com/Rush2013/Sheffield-UK/29677354_G48kqh#!i=2540713716&k=2LkHgWB

Back of Sheffield looked very empty, how full was it?

Probably on a par with the last tour, which I think was about 6,000 or half full.
If it was around the same attendance as last tour, that makes it the most successful date of the UK leg so far :)

A driving instructor writes:
QuoteWell, that was a turn up for the books! The Sheffield leg of the Time Machine Tour a couple of years ago was by far the worst - not Rush, just the crowd, which was awful. But this episode of the Clockwork Angels Tour was far-and-away the best yet. It was fantastic!
...
The crowd were lively, and Rush really played up to that. Geddy even commented on the fact at the end. It was a fantastic show as a result

http://www.diaryofanadi.co.uk/?p=12818
Title: Re: UK legs attendances
Post by: NeilP on May 30, 2013, 01:02:28 am
Quote from: Nick Sims on May 29, 2013, 21:23:33 pm
Probably on a par with the last tour, which I think was about 6,000 or half full.
If it was around the same attendance as last tour, that makes it the most successful date of the UK leg so far :)



based on what criteria Nick?
Surely the Motorpoint was the smallest audience so far this tour?
Title: Re: UK legs attendances
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on May 30, 2013, 22:56:58 pm
Quote from: NeilP on May 30, 2013, 01:02:28 am
based on what criteria Nick?


Based on my estimation that the Sheffield crowd was as big as the Time Machine tour. All other venues have had smaller attendances.
Title: Re: UK legs attendances
Post by: ianb on May 30, 2013, 23:22:23 pm
I've noticed/heard that Rush crowds are diminishing in the UK. I certainly saw it on the tribute scene over the last 10 years and that's an indicator in some ways perhaps. Old people getting older I guess and the truth is we have to haul our tired arses around when we really can't be bothered or indeed for many in these desperate times... can't afford to! 

Still... the next tour will be an anniversary celebration and will no doubt stretch our personal/financial/nostalgic resources to the limit!

They're the only band I'd ever go to such limits for!
Title: Re: UK legs attendances
Post by: mwoody on May 31, 2013, 00:06:38 am
They had pre sold 9500 seat for the M.E.N gig, this was at 1pm on the day of the gig.
Title: Re: UK legs attendances
Post by: Thailand Express on May 31, 2013, 01:50:02 am
Must've been over 8000 in Glasgow tonight...
Title: Re: UK legs attendances
Post by: skiddaw on June 25, 2013, 20:27:03 pm
Some attendance figures for some of the UK shows

http://www.rushisaband.com/blog/2013/06/22/3683/Rush-2013-Clockwork-Angels-tour-official-attendance-and-sales-figures

Title: Re: UK legs attendances
Post by: Nick on June 25, 2013, 22:26:01 pm
A quick comparison

Manc
2007 - 15552
2011 - 9115
2013 - 7806

London
2007 - 19000 2 x Wembley
2011 - 12984
2013 - 12418

Brum
2007 - 12643
2011 - 11287
2013 - no fig yet
Title: Re: UK legs attendances
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on June 26, 2013, 00:16:49 am
So, poor albums and expensive tickets lead to reduced attendances.
Title: Re: UK legs attendances
Post by: döm on June 26, 2013, 00:19:09 am
Quote from: Nick Sims on June 26, 2013, 00:16:49 am
So, poor albums and expensive tickets lead to reduced attendances.


And the expensive tickets lead to little or no overall loss of revenue
Title: Re: UK legs attendances
Post by: Nulli Secundus on June 26, 2013, 08:44:50 am
The figures for Manchester and London showing the drop in attendances from 2007 to 2013 show a huge decrease in the number of people going out there and buying tickets.

Ticket prices and the fact that people have been struggling financially since 2008 must have some impact upon this. The Manchester figure has fallen by half with London fallling even more considering they played two nights.

Even with the increase in ticket prices it is just not as profiatable for them to play here now as it was in 2007. It would be interesting to see what the attendance figures were like for the US and Canada over the 2007 - 2013 tours.

My fear is that they won't bother coming to the UK if they tour again so it would be back to the US to see them  ::)
Title: Re: UK legs attendances
Post by: döm on June 26, 2013, 10:05:56 am
Maybe if they were to limit the amount of shows performed in the UK.  If Sheffield hadn't taken place, for example, chances are that there would have been higher attendances at Manchester & Birmingham.
Title: Re: UK legs attendances
Post by: zoony on June 26, 2013, 10:21:49 am
Quote from: Nick on June 25, 2013, 22:26:01 pm


Brum
2007 - 12643
2011 - 11287
2013 - no fig yet


I thought the LG arena only held 12600?
Title: Re: UK legs attendances
Post by: captainkurtz on June 26, 2013, 10:27:13 am
Glad they played Sheffield but surprised that the promoter added that date.
Title: Re: UK legs attendances
Post by: zoony on June 26, 2013, 10:44:52 am
Quote from: captainkurtz on June 26, 2013, 10:27:13 am
Glad they played Sheffield but surprised that the promoter added that date.


He was thinking about Simmers mate, but the miserable old git will still find something else to moan about  :P ;).
Title: Re: UK legs attendances
Post by: Thailand Express on June 26, 2013, 11:28:05 am
Quote from: Nick on June 25, 2013, 22:26:01 pm
A quick comparison

Manc
2007 - 15552
2011 - 9115
2013 - 7806


That's quite a drop! Mind you I was at the 2007 show and I don't recall the crowd being as big as that, where does that figure come from?
Title: Re: UK legs attendances
Post by: Thailand Express on June 26, 2013, 11:41:28 am
Quote from: Nulli Secundus on June 26, 2013, 08:44:50 am
Even with the increase in ticket prices it is just not as profiatable for them to play here now as it was in 2007. It would be interesting to see what the attendance figures were like for the US and Canada over the 2007 - 2013 tours.

My fear is that they won't bother coming to the UK if they tour again so it would be back to the US to see them  ::)


According to the figures on Rush is a Band, the London O2 was the highest grossing show of the tour, so despite the tail off in numbers it seems coming to Europe is still financially viable. And that's also factoring in that the Pound is around 25% weaker against the Canadian Dollar than 5 years ago...
Title: Re: UK legs attendances
Post by: zoony on June 26, 2013, 12:08:29 pm
Quote from: Thailand Express on June 26, 2013, 11:28:05 am
That's quite a drop! Mind you I was at the 2007 show and I don't recall the crowd being as big as that, where does that figure come from?


But if you look at the figures in Skiddaw,s post on the previous page, there were only 8898 tickets made available for the Manchester show?
Title: Re: UK legs attendances
Post by: Andrew_Haldane on June 26, 2013, 12:10:25 pm
It would seem from those figures that the band have priced themselves out of reach of some of the less hardcore fans. 2 nights at Wembley (aircraft hanger though it is) attracted more fans than 1 night at the far more attractive O2. Its hard to see a reversal of that trend in declining figures when they charge so much for tickets especially in a recession.  Unless they suddenly retire it would seem that scaling back the schedule and scale/cost of the production of future tours is inevitable at some point. If they are clever about it they should still end up with a very decent profit for less work. Simply playing 2 nights in less Cities, cutting the set in half and alternating it, (adding a couple of rare classics to the encore) and providing a decent local support act or two would cut costs and travelling time and may fill up some of those empty seats or at least arrest the decline. Perhaps Geddys remarks about doing more festivals  signal a transition towards a downscaled set and production generally or at least that they want to test its viability.
Title: Re: UK legs attendances
Post by: zoony on June 26, 2013, 12:13:21 pm
I wonder how much the band have to do with the ticket prices?
Title: Re: UK legs attendances
Post by: Thailand Express on June 26, 2013, 12:23:58 pm
Fact is a lot of people who went along in 2004 or 2007 will have "ticked the box" and seen a legendary act perform either after a long absence or for the first time.

There's not many artists that I'd go to see 4 times in a decade, so it's not surprising that attendances are dropping back to the hardcore fans, not just in Europe but North America too.
A good example from this tour would be the visit to Halifax, Nova Scotia, where they haven't played since Hold Your Fire. The gig sold out in 10 minutes and they had to add another night. I don't think that's happened in many other places where, if not contempt, familiarity certainly breeds apathy...
Title: Re: UK legs attendances
Post by: Andrew_Haldane on June 26, 2013, 12:30:18 pm
Quote from: Thailand Express on June 26, 2013, 12:23:58 pm
Fact is a lot of people who went along in 2004 or 2007 will have "ticked the box" and seen a legendary act perform either after a long absence or for the first time.

There's not many artists that I'd go to see 4 times in a decade, so it's not surprising that attendances are dropping back to the hardcore fans, not just in Europe but North America too.
A good example from this tour would be the visit to Halifax, Nova Scotia, where they haven't played since Hold Your Fire. The gig sold out in 10 minutes and they had to add another night. I don't think that's happened in many other places where, if not contempt, familiarity certainly breeds apathy...



Ultimately its about maximising profit rather than attracting more fans but Im pretty sure there would be a lot more tickets sold at £30 than £85 even if they toured once a year
Title: Re: UK legs attendances
Post by: Thailand Express on June 26, 2013, 12:50:53 pm
It's a balancing act, similar to the problems faced at struggling football clubs where fans claim their main reason for not going is the price. But experience shows that halving the admission price very rarely doubles the gate...
Title: Re: UK legs attendances
Post by: freewill on June 26, 2013, 14:12:07 pm
back in their day they would have done 4/5 nights in each of Wembley & the NEC, what was it then £20 per ticket?
Title: Re: UK legs attendances
Post by: Thailand Express on June 26, 2013, 14:38:07 pm
Quote from: freewill on June 26, 2013, 14:12:07 pm
back in their day they would have done 4/5 nights in each of Wembley & the NEC, what was it then £20 per ticket?


I don't think they've done more than a double nighter since the 80s when tickets were a tenner or less...
Title: Re: UK legs attendances
Post by: Matt2112 on June 26, 2013, 15:11:31 pm
Incidentally, funnily enough, as I'm in the middle of a house move I inadvertently dug out my tickets from the NEC in '88 and Sheffield in '92 the other day - £10.00 and £14.00 respectively.  :o  :o  Not sure how that compares with inflation given decent tickets are £80.00 nowadays, but a shock nonetheless.
Title: Re: UK legs attendances
Post by: Night Flyer on June 26, 2013, 15:24:38 pm
Quote from: Matt2112 on June 26, 2013, 15:11:31 pm
Incidentally, funnily enough, as I'm in the middle of a house move I inadvertently dug out my tickets from the NEC in '88 and Sheffield in '92 the other day - £10.00 and £14.00 respectively.  :o  :o  Not sure how that compares with inflation given decent tickets are £80.00 nowadays, but a shock nonetheless.


Paid £5.00 for MP/ESL in '81. Can't remember what for Signals off hand but Signals was a double nighter in the Edinburgh Royal Highland Barn.

Ah here we go again. The old days (sigh)
Title: Re: UK legs attendances
Post by: Thailand Express on June 26, 2013, 16:12:54 pm
That said the Hold Your Fire CD would've cost you more than Clockwork Angels on CD....
Title: Re: UK legs attendances
Post by: Nick on June 26, 2013, 18:40:04 pm
Also it must hit the Merch sales which must be very lucrative. This year i brought a programme and that was it, my mates bought nothing due to the high prices. i recall that on the R30 tour they broke the merch sales record at the NEC (or was that urban Rush myth?).

Certainly no need to do Sheffield next time as that crown could easily fill the gaps in Manc. However if it was marketed as a farewell tour it could be
a R30 all over again.
Title: Re: UK legs attendances
Post by: BaldiePete on June 26, 2013, 19:03:39 pm
Quote from: Night Flyer on June 26, 2013, 15:24:38 pm
Paid £5.00 for MP/ESL in '81. Can't remember what for Signals off hand but Signals was a double nighter in the Edinburgh Royal Highland Barn.

Ah here we go again. The old days (sigh)


Signals in Edinburgh was also £5.
Title: Re: UK legs attendances
Post by: Bez on June 26, 2013, 21:38:02 pm
I only did 2 shows this year and in 2011 because of the ticket prices....previously I'd "stalked"....
Title: Re: UK legs attendances
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on June 26, 2013, 21:50:36 pm
Quote from: captainkurtz on June 26, 2013, 10:27:13 am
Glad they played Sheffield but surprised that the promoter added that date.

I've said it before, but Rush actually enjoy playing in Sheffield! They say it's a good sounding Arena.
The Sheffield shows have been my favourites on the last couple of tours too.
What they should do is play a half Arena config at Sheffield. It'd look a lot fuller and they may be able to pitch more tickets at the higher price level.

If they do Yurp again, I reckon it'll be three or four UK dates plus Yurpean festivals.
Title: Re: UK legs attendances
Post by: captainkurtz on June 26, 2013, 22:22:24 pm
Quote from: Nick Sims on June 26, 2013, 21:50:36 pm
I've said it before, but Rush actually enjoy playing in Sheffield! They say it's a good sounding Arena.

I've heard that before as well - I could be wrong but didn't Roadcrew start that?

I don't believe it for a second...its a dirty great big arena that is no worse or better sounding than any other Arena in the Country - SECC withstanding.

Surely you'd don't believe they actually request to play Sheffield when these tours are being booked - as if they give a flying feck!

Good call re. the configuration though - that would be brilliant.

I've enjoyed all the Sheffield Rush shows I've seen - 92,11,13 - certainly the pick of the bunch for me this time around.  Cheap venue parking as well...
Title: Re: UK legs attendances
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on June 26, 2013, 22:42:02 pm
Quote from: captainkurtz on June 26, 2013, 22:22:24 pm

I don't believe it for a second...its a dirty great big arena that is no worse or better sounding than any other Arena in the Country - SECC withstanding.

Alex gave an interview to the Sheffield Star this tour and he did say they liked the sound of Sheffield Arena.
Whether that was being said in a DLR style "Noocassel, you're The Rark and Roll capital of the world" style I knoweth not.

QuoteSurely you'd don't believe they actually request to play Sheffield when these tours are being booked

I just like to try winding people up...
Title: Re: UK legs attendances
Post by: Straight Shooter on June 27, 2013, 12:46:28 pm
Quote from: BaldiePete on June 26, 2013, 19:03:39 pm
Signals in Edinburgh was also £5.

...and you got to 'meet' the band afterwards and get your programme signed!  ;)
Title: Re: UK legs attendances
Post by: karl on June 27, 2013, 18:07:54 pm
1980 Birmingham Odeon ticket price £4.50.
Title: Re: UK legs attendances
Post by: Thailand Express on June 27, 2013, 21:23:34 pm
Quote from: karl on June 27, 2013, 18:07:54 pm
1980 Birmingham Odeon ticket price £4.50.


It'd cost you that for a pint at a gig now!
Title: Re: UK legs attendances
Post by: 3rdday on June 27, 2013, 21:26:45 pm
The Sheffield attendance would probably fit in the Cardiff arena if they made it a standing gig. It would be nice if they catered for those of us in South West Britain for a change.

It's still a shed, but it's a slightly smaller shed, which should make for a decent atmosphere if it's fullish. The downside is that some of the locals that turn up to gigs there these days are complete knuckleheads.
Title: Re: UK legs attendances
Post by: Thailand Express on June 28, 2013, 09:31:44 am
That's maybe a decent idea to stimulate interest next time they're here, play different cities like Cardiff, Liverpool or Belfast.  I heard loads of Ulster accents at the SECC...
Title: Re: UK legs attendances
Post by: Matt2112 on June 28, 2013, 11:32:30 am
Leeds Arena.  Same ampitheatre layout as Dublin Arena and I reckon two out of the three tiers would be pretty much full.
Title: Re: UK legs attendances
Post by: Night Flyer on June 28, 2013, 11:32:52 am
Quote from: Thailand Express on June 28, 2013, 09:31:44 am
That's maybe a decent idea to stimulate interest next time they're here, play different cities like Cardiff, Liverpool or Belfast.  I heard loads of Ulster accents at the SECC...


There are many of us following them but i just take it for granted we're going to have to travel to see them as we always did. We now have an appropriate arena in the city that would be ideal but i'm not holding my breath at this stage of their career. Dublin was a pleasant surprise but Belfast feck! that would be the icing on the cake an i'll die happy.
Title: Re: UK legs attendances
Post by: freewill on June 28, 2013, 11:34:22 am
Would love a Liverpool show for a change & preferably a friday night gig & make a weekend of it. 8)
Title: Re: UK legs attendances
Post by: Bez on June 28, 2013, 11:43:12 am
I think the problem is promoters as much as the band....I'd like to see different cities, but I think we have to accept that they'll continue with the "tried & tested" model from now on...
Title: Re: UK legs attendances
Post by: Straight Shooter on June 28, 2013, 12:31:57 pm
Quote from: Thailand Express on June 28, 2013, 09:31:44 am
I heard loads of Ulster accents at the SECC...

Make a change from Ibrox then... ;)
Title: Re: UK legs attendances
Post by: Captain Ron on June 28, 2013, 14:30:56 pm
I too would love to see them play Belfast. The Odyssey Arena is a perfect venue for them. If they ever did it and I was not front row I think it would kill me.
Title: Re: UK legs attendances
Post by: Night Flyer on June 28, 2013, 17:27:52 pm
Quote from: Straight Shooter on June 28, 2013, 12:31:57 pm
Make a change from Ibrox then... ;)


;D
Title: Re: UK legs attendances
Post by: franksidebottom on June 28, 2013, 18:40:41 pm
Come and play Capital FM Arena in Nottingham boys. I know of several who would have gone had the gig been on their doorstep
Title: Re: UK legs attendances
Post by: Andrew_Haldane on June 28, 2013, 21:15:53 pm
Quote from: franksidebottom on June 28, 2013, 18:40:41 pm
Come and play Capital FM Arena in Nottingham boys. I know of several who would have gone had the gig been on their doorstep


Is it still the gun crime capital of England or is that Moss side?
Title: Re: UK legs attendances
Post by: franksidebottom on June 29, 2013, 03:13:39 am
Quote from: Bisto on June 28, 2013, 21:15:53 pm
Is it still the gun crime capital of England or is that Moss side?



That all depends on whether you believe anything the popular press print.......
Title: Re: UK legs attendances
Post by: NeilP on June 29, 2013, 15:16:28 pm
car crime in parts is all I've heard ;)
Title: Re: UK legs attendances
Post by: Fishy on June 30, 2013, 19:36:03 pm
Play Ayr Gaiety ffs
Title: Re: UK legs attendances
Post by: Straight Shooter on July 01, 2013, 00:17:35 am
Quote from: Fishy on June 30, 2013, 19:36:03 pm
Play Ayr Gaiety ffs

Couldn't get near it for Johnny Beattie's residency apparently... ;)
Title: Re: UK legs attendances
Post by: Ricky4001 on July 02, 2013, 19:17:06 pm
Belfast on the next tour (assuming there will be one) would be amazing.  Dublin in 2011 was great because I had no major travel or accommodation outlay but I guess I'll keep travelling to "the mainland"  in future.  This year, Birmingham was the best option - weekend gig, good transport links and hotels right next to the venue. 
Title: Re: UK legs attendances
Post by: franksidebottom on July 03, 2013, 00:19:02 am
Quote from: NeilP on June 29, 2013, 15:16:28 pm
car crime in parts is all I've heard ;)


Since the cops don't prosecute any bugger any more unless they're on to a racing certainty, on the face of it crime is falling not just in Notts but everywhere. It's a bunch of utter horse shit in reality but hey that's what the government and plod tell us... 
Title: Re: UK legs attendances
Post by: Night Flyer on July 03, 2013, 12:52:57 pm
Quote from: Ricky4001 on July 02, 2013, 19:17:06 pm
Belfast on the next tour (assuming there will be one) would be amazing.  Dublin in 2011 was great because I had no major travel or accommodation outlay but I guess I'll keep travelling to "the mainland"  in future.  This year, Birmingham was the best option - weekend gig, good transport links and hotels right next to the venue.


I know the old NEC (LG) gets a bit of a slagging now but it is a breeze to fly to a nearby airport to the venue, pick up a direct link phone to a reception and have a courtesy bus have you in the hotel in less than 10 minutes in the grounds. While we still have to find airfares and spending money on top of the concert ticket Birmingham makes for one of the easier options from Belfast and is alwayds on my list. It's hard enough following the band at the best of times.
Title: Re: UK legs attendances
Post by: Rrroooaaarrr on July 03, 2013, 23:07:33 pm
Quote from: Ricky4001 on July 02, 2013, 19:17:06 pm
Belfast on the next tour (assuming there will be one)
Belfast or tour ;D
Title: Re: UK legs attendances
Post by: Night Flyer on July 04, 2013, 12:34:26 pm
Quote from: Rrroooaaarrr on July 03, 2013, 23:07:33 pm
Belfast or tour ;D


Class  ;D
Title: Re: UK legs attendances
Post by: mickpaz2112 on July 18, 2013, 19:58:05 pm
Ed at RushIsABand is reporting that Pollstar.com has released their list of the Top 100 Worldwide and Top 100 North American tours for the first half of 2013. Rush's Clockwork Angels tour came in at #69 on both lists. On the worldwide tour chart, Pollstar reports that out of 23 shows (although Rush actually played 24, so they must be missing one) played through June 30th, Rush's tour grossed an average of $491,304 per show with an average of 5,534 tickets sold. On the North American tour chart, Pollstar reports that out of 14 North American shows played through June 30th, Rush's tour grossed an average of $314,286 per show with an average of 3,937 tickets sold. You can check out the complete lists at Pollstar.com.

UK  attendences were almost double the average.
Title: Re: UK legs attendances
Post by: Stuart B on July 19, 2013, 11:17:12 am
Is it just me that thinks the average of 5,534 tickets sold is quite low
Title: Re: UK legs attendances
Post by: NeilP on July 19, 2013, 11:30:04 am
figures like that would suggest to me that they mightn't return.... unless tickets are £35 and there's a proper sale, not the VIP rubbish pre-sale malarky etc.
Title: Re: UK legs attendances
Post by: Night Flyer on July 19, 2013, 11:40:54 am
Quote from: Stuart B on July 19, 2013, 11:17:12 am
Is it just me that thinks the average of 5,534 tickets sold is quite low


Was thinking the very same. That figure really surprises me.
Title: Re: UK legs attendances
Post by: 3rdday on July 19, 2013, 11:43:18 am
Quote from: Stuart B on July 19, 2013, 11:17:12 am
Is it just me that thinks the average of 5,534 tickets sold is quite low


It does sound surprisingly low, but the figure for North America sounds even worse! I'm really surprised by both numbers.
Title: Re: UK legs attendances
Post by: captainkurtz on July 19, 2013, 11:49:23 am
they're still coining it in, so I'm sure they're not too forlorn.
Title: Re: UK legs attendances
Post by: Nulli Secundus on July 19, 2013, 13:04:58 pm
I was quite surprised by the low average figures.

I think if they tour again then the way tickets are sold and the prices need to be seriously looked at... although if they made money from the way it was done last time who's going to change it just because we all felt it was unfair?
Title: Re: UK legs attendances
Post by: Slim on August 08, 2013, 21:56:43 pm
Quote from: Stuart B on July 19, 2013, 11:17:12 am
Is it just me that thinks the average of 5,534 tickets sold is quite low


Replying rather late but yes, that is rather low I would say. Back in the day they used to play 19 or 20 nights at 2-3000 seat venues over here on a UK tour, most or all of which would have been sold out after the AFTK tour. Lots more tickets sold and a lot more work back then, but they probably made a lot less cash as well.
Title: Re: UK legs attendances
Post by: JonL on August 08, 2013, 23:05:04 pm
Quote from: Slim on August 08, 2013, 21:56:43 pm
Lots more tickets sold and a lot more work back then, but they probably made a lot less cash as well.

I seem to remember an interview with All saying that they didn't start making money on the road until the mid to late  80's.
Title: Re: UK legs attendances
Post by: NeilP on August 08, 2013, 23:06:44 pm
not many did though, it was record sales then.... now it's the opposite I believe
Title: Re: UK legs attendances
Post by: Slim on August 09, 2013, 21:24:34 pm
Quote from: JonL on August 08, 2013, 23:05:04 pm
I seem to remember an interview with All saying that they didn't start making money on the road until the mid to late  80's.


Certainly back in the late '70s concerts were priced in "night out" terms, costing probably not much more than you'd spend on beer in a pub if you were old enough, which I wasn't. My first Rush ticket was £2, which was substantially less than the price of one of the Rush LPs I bought a month later. I think beer was about 35p a pint in 1977.
Title: Re: UK legs attendances
Post by: NeilP on August 09, 2013, 23:38:59 pm
I could get 4 pints of Guinness for a pound in the subsidised bar at Sheffield Uni that year
Title: Re: UK legs attendances
Post by: Thailand Express on August 10, 2013, 02:26:53 am
Quote from: JonL on August 08, 2013, 23:05:04 pm
I seem to remember an interview with All saying that they didn't start making money on the road until the mid to late  80's.


I recall Alex saying on the HYF tour that they didn't make any money at all coming to Europe.
Might explain the scarcity of their appearances here until the concert ticket market started to inflate...
Title: Re: UK legs attendances
Post by: zoony on August 10, 2013, 22:49:51 pm
Quote from: NeilP on August 09, 2013, 23:38:59 pm
I could get 4 pints of Guinness for a pound in the subsidised bar at Sheffield Uni that year


And a fern ticket as well mate  ;).
Title: Re: UK legs attendances
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on August 11, 2013, 00:17:18 am
Quote from: Slim on August 09, 2013, 21:24:34 pm
I think beer was about 35p a pint in 1977.

My first pint, back in '77, when I was all of 14, cost me 27p :) Make Mine Mansfield. (Makes me Puke...)