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Title: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: Bez on May 23, 2013, 09:39:07 am
There's plenty of peeps who haven't seen the setlist yet....
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: Thailand Express on May 23, 2013, 09:44:09 am
Should this thread not be in "Spoilers" ;)
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: captainkurtz on May 23, 2013, 09:46:41 am
No first night gremlins last night - a superb show in front of a strangely subdued audience.

Love the setlist, but its not for the casual fan.

New stuff is stonking live.

Geddy's vocals were very strong all night, I thought.

Sound was slightly boomy in the first half (slightly) but was near perfect in the second half.

Great show, caught another T-shirt (and I noticed alex's plec bounced of a completely unaware Mick Parry - Baldie Pete was the lucky recipient)

Great show - very much looking forward to London.

Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: Bez on May 23, 2013, 09:59:42 am
Quote from: Thailand Express on May 23, 2013, 09:44:09 am
Should this thread not be in "Spoilers" ;)


Probably, but an excited Rush fan is not known for its tact.... ::)
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: Thailand Express on May 23, 2013, 10:00:50 am
Surprised to read that the crowd was subdued, the couple of Manc gigs I've been to were bouncing...
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: dannyc on May 23, 2013, 10:12:25 am
New stuff is great live ( though two peeps in front of me sat down in Block A Row C for the entire 2nd half until the new stuff has finished).. Really pleasantly suprised how well the ensemble was mixed in (you could hear everything).

Agree with Kurtz it was oddly subdued - looking at the sides I think everyone was sat - who cares we had an fantastic time and they looked like they really enjoyed themselves.
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: Nulli Secundus on May 23, 2013, 10:35:23 am
An excellent night. The new stuff worked really well live and as mentioned the strings were fantastic.

Loved it.

Only downside.... none of my pictures turned out due to my shitty camera  :'(

Can't wait for Sheffield  8)
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: Summerland on May 23, 2013, 11:05:49 am
Enjoyed that much more than I expected. eddy's voice was surprisinly stron. The new stuff must have been very excitin for those who were waitin for it - some of it rocked enouh to keep the rest of us awake. Actually, that's a tad unfair, some of it was very well presented to this unconvinced ear. Surprised how powerfully reminiscent some of the mid 80's stuff was. A certain son off sinals was worth the trip to Manchester alone - blisterin Alex! Altoether, a vast improvement on Dublin, i'm even lookin forward to Sheff, rather than bailin on the ticket.

Had to dash to et a train home, but it was reat to see so many peeps in the daytime before. And yes, my 'jee' key ain't workin'.

Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: Stewart on May 23, 2013, 11:06:21 am
Awesome gig! and it was great to bump into the usual crowd after all these years ...

ARH, VT, Mr Green, Neph, Baldie Pete, Craig Smith, Hass, Matt E, Mr Sweetman, Slim, Tom G, Jon Dahmes, JP & Jude and whoever else I've forgotten! So you all again at Sheffield... if I have time!

Sorry I didn't get a chance to talk to Ron and Terry!

And a big special thank you to Dods, oh and Pamela too :)
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: Japes on May 23, 2013, 11:18:21 am
It was a great show  with the contrast of old songs ( a couple of which i had never heard live before) in the first half and the brilliant Clockwork Angels songs in the second half working just fine for me.   As ever a big part of the shows is meeting up with friends old and new beforehand. Always good fun to catch up and pick up from where we left off the last time !!
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: BaldiePete on May 23, 2013, 11:55:10 am
The first set was not really to my taste by that didn't stop me from enjoying it immensely. However, if you're going to play some 80's deep cuts, couldn't you PLEASE have made Kid Gloves one of them? The second set was immense, the CA stuff works superbly live.

I was surprised to see so many sitting at the sides but perhaps that was a result of the less than populist setlist. There was a guy a couple of rows behind me literally pleading for Limelight and Tom Sawyer about five songs into the 2nd set.
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: BaldiePete on May 23, 2013, 12:40:03 pm
Quote from: captainkurtz on May 23, 2013, 09:46:41 am

Great show, caught another T-shirt (and I noticed alex's plec bounced of a completely unaware Mick Parry - Baldie Pete was the lucky recipient)



That was a nice surprise. It ended up right at my feet. After the show I gave it to ARH's son James, I'm sure he'll appreciate it more than I would.
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: captainkurtz on May 23, 2013, 12:50:04 pm
Nice touch, Sir.

Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: BaldiePete on May 23, 2013, 12:57:07 pm
Quote from: captainkurtz on May 23, 2013, 12:50:04 pm
Nice touch, Sir.


Since I only got it because I sneaked into the front row it was only fair to give it away.
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: Lyth on May 23, 2013, 13:51:40 pm
Quote from: captainkurtz on May 23, 2013, 09:46:41 am
No first night gremlins last night - a superb show in front of a strangely subdued audience.


:)

Pretty much what he said.

However there were a couple of gremlins/feck ups in the Clockwork Angels set (not sure if we can name names in here so I won't) - Neil slowed down too early in the middle of one song and both him and Alex screwed up the start of another.

Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: Analog RH on May 23, 2013, 14:45:50 pm
An exceptional show.

Crowd was indeed quiet, but as others have said the setlist was very much for the hardcore fans and not for those who were there because they once bought Moving Pictures.

I was in Block 102 and rocked through the gig in my usual standing up, air guitaring / drumming / bassing, sweating all over everyone fashion. Captain Ron and TerrBerr stood behind us and incurred the wrath of an irate, boneheaded Liverpudlian. As it looked like it might kick off an one point (I am ashamed to say I could feel the red mist descending as the Bonehead told Tron to "stop whining" and that he would do physical harm if they stood up in the second set) I went and spoke to security who confirmed that (a) we were allowed to stand and (b ) that the Bonehead would be ejected if he carried on. Bonehead saw this.

Sound was great where I was. Noticed a couple of feck ups but they didn't in any way spoil the experience.

Very much enjoyed watching the Barchettas doing their thing on the front row (centre).

Ace meet up in the Moon Under The Water, even though the bar management were Hitler-esque in their attitude to Hard Jr and Mini-Barchetta. I don't understand why I am not allowed to buy a coke for a child in a pub if he isn't eating. Great catching up with folks I only ever see on tour.

Roll on Sunday.  8)



Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: captainkurtz on May 23, 2013, 14:54:30 pm
Quote from: Analog Rockin' Hard on May 23, 2013, 14:45:50 pm

Very much enjoyed watching the Barchettas doing their thing on the front row (centre).


Very cool little boy.  :)
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: reedlover on May 23, 2013, 14:58:20 pm
Quote from: BaldiePete on May 23, 2013, 11:55:10 am
The first set was not really to my taste by that didn't stop me from enjoying it immensely. However, if you're going to play some 80's deep cuts, couldn't you PLEASE have made Kid Gloves one of them? The second set was immense, the CA stuff works superbly live.

I was surprised to see so many sitting at the sides but perhaps that was a result of the less than populist setlist. There was a guy a couple of rows behind me literally pleading for Limelight and Tom Sawyer about five songs into the 2nd set.


We were told to sit down in the block I was on.
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: Matt2112 on May 23, 2013, 14:58:40 pm
Broadly in agreement with the above.  :)

Obviously I was in heaven during the first set's Aladdin's Cave of eighties treasures.  The Pass was exquisite and featured Al's best-executed solo of the evening - pure perfection.  However, to my surprise I enjoyed the CA songs even more.  The Wreckers, for me, was soaringly brilliant in particular and somehow had an extra dimension to it.  The slightly duffed intro to which Dave (Lyth) refers I believe was in Wish Them Well, and I thought this was the only song of the night that threatened a touch of sloppiness, but to be fair it got more solid as it progressed. 

The sound from my spot in 102 was crystal clear throughout - probably the best I've heard at Manc Arena.

Lots of smiles onstage which is always a good sign with Al wasting no goofing opportunities, for instance playing a couple of bars of Headlong Flight with a dropped drumstick before despatching it to a lucky recipient in the front row.

A really cracking start to the UK leg and very much looking forward to London tomorrow now.  8)
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: Thailand Express on May 23, 2013, 14:59:04 pm
Quote from: BaldiePete on May 23, 2013, 11:55:10 am
I was surprised to see so many sitting at the sides but perhaps that was a result of the less than populist setlist. There was a guy a couple of rows behind me literally pleading for Limelight and Tom Sawyer about five songs into the 2nd set.


It's a bold setlist, particularly for the UK where more fans seem to prefer the 70s stuff than they do in North America...
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: Matt2112 on May 23, 2013, 15:01:03 pm
Quote from: Thailand Express on May 23, 2013, 14:59:04 pm
It's a bold setlist, particularly for the UK where more fans seem to prefer the 70s stuff than they do in North America...


Sod 'em.  ;D  :D
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: Thailand Express on May 23, 2013, 15:05:21 pm
Quote from: Matt2112 on May 23, 2013, 15:01:03 pm
Sod 'em.  ;D  :D


;D

Nice photo gallery from last night here....

http://www.contactmusic.com/photo/geddy-lee-rush-performing-at-manchester-arena_3682462
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: reedlover on May 23, 2013, 15:09:24 pm
I thought that Clockwork Angels was remarkably well-executed especially considering its relative complexity. I was relieved to be able to hear the string section even though I felt slightly uncomfortable with them being there.
I could have done without the first set hit parade of Power Windoze but all in all it was a good gig.
Not sure I am willing pay £60 to £80 for any gig, never mind Rush (full Genesis reunion aside) in the future especially after the problems my mate Andy had getting us decent tickets despite applying dead on 9 O'clock on the day of the presale. I could have got tickets far better for the same price if I had waited until last Monday!
Whinge moan.

£20 odd to see Steven Wilson was a far better deal and a far better gig.
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: Neilyyz on May 23, 2013, 15:11:27 pm
Just got back to Newcastle on the train from last nights gig. Was in Block 115 the end seat on row G closest to the stage.  I have to say I was not impressed with the sound last night. I agree that the sound was much better on the 2nd half and the new stuff sounded great live. Thought the string section were brilliant actually and certainly came across well sound wise. Alex's solo spot sounded terrible from where I was as did Pratts 2nd solo.

I agree the crowd appeared very subdued last night. I did notice Hards from my position although I have never met him I could spot him easily enough as like he said he was up and at it. I stood up for the whole show as did the big fella next to me and we both enjoyed a lot of air drummin/fist pumping/air guitaring. Mrs YYZ was her usual quiet self but enjoyed watching me enjoying myself she said.

I have floor tickets for the next 3 shows all within 4 rows of the front so hoping for a lot better sound.

Roll on London, Sheff, Glasgow, Berlin.
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: NeilP on May 23, 2013, 15:16:57 pm
Great evening, very good sound from 102 J where I was.
Mostly seated though there were many loud individuals threatening violence to some if we stood up, perhaps Security should have been consulted?

Anyway, I stood for much of the second set without incident

enjoyed the set list, similar to Toronto gig 2 last Oct though I like CA so very pleasurable with the string ensemble accompaniment
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: Red Star on May 23, 2013, 16:17:33 pm
Ok, so they played to their usual excellent standard but the gig was bizarre from my point of view in that it was the first Rush show that I had watched from the 'morgue' that was Block 102. Honestly, there was more atmosphere in outer space :(

Setlist was ok but I thought the inferior Clockwork Angels stuff should have been played in the first half - turning the gig on it's head would have worked better for me as the first half set list was awesome. The sound was just acceptable to me but that might just be my ears. We had a good view from where we were sat which was exactly in line with the front row on Alex's side.

6/10.
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: ghostwheel on May 23, 2013, 16:22:32 pm
Quote from: captainkurtz on May 23, 2013, 09:46:41 am
No first night gremlins last night - a superb show in front of a strangely subdued audience.

Love the setlist, but its not for the casual fan.

New stuff is stonking live.

Geddy's vocals were very strong all night, I thought.

Sound was slightly boomy in the first half (slightly) but was near perfect in the second half.

Great show, caught another T-shirt (and I noticed alex's plec bounced of a completely unaware Mick Parry - Baldie Pete was the lucky recipient)

Great show - very much looking forward to London.


Hard to disagree with much of that.  I was five rows back from the front in front of Geddy.  I think we got to ten past ten before anything pre-Signals came up.  All power to them I say: I still think the Signals to Presto era is massively underrated, and last night bore that out.  Add to that the fact that the P/G, PoW and Presto tours never made it to the UK and I would say we were due a retrospective.  Worth also noting that R30 and Time Machine have given us a very comprehensive run through of a great deal of the earlier stuff.  I for one do not need to hear Closer to the Heart, Limelight et al over again just for the sake of it.  Whereas I have been saying for years that tracks like Middletown Dreams and Grand Designs deserved an airing.  Analog Kid was epic.

Sound was overall very good from where I sat: such a change from going to see Jack White last year at Ally Pally  - White noise more like, my ears were bleeding.

The new material was excellent, a highlight of the show.  Glad to see that my view of Wish Them Well as a stonking rocker was borne out in practice.  Roll on London tomorrow...
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: TerrBerr on May 23, 2013, 16:25:41 pm
Quote from: Thailand Express on May 23, 2013, 10:00:50 am
Surprised to read that the crowd was subdued, the couple of Manc gigs I've been to were bouncing...


Manchester has to have the surliest concert goers in the nation. We were standing and got abuse from a couple twats behind us. One guy was actually getting abusive with it and there was also a belligerent woman who kept trying to have a go. Even after we sat down I could still hear him making hateful comments. I lost my rag and turned to him and told him enough already, we sat down after three songs so shut the feck up! Annoyed that I let him get to me like this. He actually threatened to kick ron's head in after the show.

Never had an experience like it at a show and it actually took a bit of the shine off. I heard of others who were getting grief from "fans" who objected to standees.
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: Paris_Phil on May 23, 2013, 16:50:33 pm
What o'clock was it all over?
(am trying to plan whether I can make it onto a last train post-Glasgow)
Thanks
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: dannyc on May 23, 2013, 16:54:20 pm
Quote from: Paris_Phil on May 23, 2013, 16:50:33 pm
What o'clock was it all over?
(am trying to plan whether I can make it onto a last train post-Glasgow)
Thanks


Just before 11pm.. Only time I saw a clock was when I got in the car and it was 11 I think.
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: pdw1 on May 23, 2013, 16:55:27 pm
Quote from: TerrBerr on May 23, 2013, 16:25:41 pm
Manchester has to have the surliest concert goers in the nation. We were standing and got abuse from a couple twats behind us. One guy was actually getting abusive with it and there was also a belligerent woman who kept trying to have a go. Even after we sat down I could still hear him making hateful comments. I lost my rag and turned to him and told him enough already, we sat down after three songs so shut the feck up! Annoyed that I let him get to me like this. He actually threatened to kick ron's head in after the show.

Never had an experience like it at a show and it actually took a bit of the shine off. I heard of others who were getting grief from "fans" who objected to standees.

That is such a shame. Will we see you in London tomorrow?
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: BaldiePete on May 23, 2013, 17:01:38 pm
Quote from: Paris_Phil on May 23, 2013, 16:50:33 pm
What o'clock was it all over?
(am trying to plan whether I can make it onto a last train post-Glasgow)
Thanks


They came on at about 7-45 and were finished at about 10-45. There's a film clip at the end which is not worth seeing. As soon as Grand Finale finishes start legging it and you'll get out before the masses.
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: Captain Ron on May 23, 2013, 17:31:28 pm
Quote from: pdw1 on May 23, 2013, 16:55:27 pm
That is such a shame. Will we see you in London tomorrow?


Yes of course. We'll be at the pre-gig meet and we're stopping for saturdays's muse gig at emirates. Then Sunday for NEC and a much-needed rest on Monday before Sheffield. Then driving to Glasgow for the last UK show.

I sincerely hope this unpleasant incident was a one-off. I normally avoid confrontation so I really surprised myself last night. I really tore into that bonehead.
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: pdw1 on May 23, 2013, 17:33:13 pm
Well i hope we can have a drink together tomorrow even if I am sitting down :)
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: Captain Ron on May 23, 2013, 17:35:48 pm
Arse, that was me, terry, replying. Ron must have logged in on my phone.
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: Night Flyer on May 23, 2013, 17:36:59 pm
Quote from: TerrBerr on May 23, 2013, 16:25:41 pm
Manchester has to have the surliest concert goers in the nation. We were standing and got abuse from a couple twats behind us. One guy was actually getting abusive with it and there was also a belligerent woman who kept trying to have a go. Even after we sat down I could still hear him making hateful comments. I lost my rag and turned to him and told him enough already, we sat down after three songs so shut the feck up! Annoyed that I let him get to me like this. He actually threatened to kick ron's head in after the show.

Never had an experience like it at a show and it actually took a bit of the shine off. I heard of others who were getting grief from "fans" who objected to standees.


Really sorry to read this. I may have been naive in thinking us fans would understand at shows that we're in this together. I have asked permission from others in the past if they wouldn't mind me standing only to find them smile and say we were hoping to as well. I'd like to think this is an exception. As for the sound. I wasn't there last night as i'm doing Birmingham, Glasgow and Amsterdam but i do remember dreadful sound from the 2007 gig at the MEN for the first half. Between the wheels was especially dreadful at the close of the first set. When chatting about this on the return flight to Ireland with some fellow fans they didn't understand what i was getting at. It really seems to be a random thing regarding position and tweaking of the sound will happen as the show rolls on. On the same tour too the Hartwall in Helsinki was dreadful for the first set but once again adaptions were made.
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: jules on May 23, 2013, 20:48:30 pm
Quote from: Red Star on May 23, 2013, 16:17:33 pm
Ok, so they played to their usual excellent standard but the gig was bizarre from my point of view in that it was the first Rush show that I had watched from the 'morgue' that was Block 102.


Me too  - Not to start the 'to stand or not to stand' debate again, but you're right. Personally I loved the whole set list (another debate!!) but would have been much more demonstrative if the miserable peeps behind us weren't so verbally aggressive :'( .  Had an amazing night but was just a little bit envious of those on the floor having an obviously bouncing time!!

Floor for me in Manchester next time (please let there be a next time)  ;)
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: MickW on May 23, 2013, 21:33:56 pm
Quote from: TerrBerr on May 23, 2013, 16:25:41 pm
Manchester has to have the surliest concert goers in the nation. We were standing and got abuse from a couple twats behind us. One guy was actually getting abusive with it and there was also a belligerent woman who kept trying to have a go. Even after we sat down I could still hear him making hateful comments. I lost my rag and turned to him and told him enough already, we sat down after three songs so shut the feck up! Annoyed that I let him get to me like this. He actually threatened to kick ron's head in after the show.

Never had an experience like it at a show and it actually took a bit of the shine off. I heard of others who were getting grief from "fans" who objected to standees.


A couple of people in the row in front of us stood up so me & my lad did the same only to get tapped on the shoulder by the tosser behind me asking me to sit down!

I have to admit the crowd were a bunch of miserable feckers whose complete lack of enthusiasm must've caught the attention of the band as I'm sure they were thinking "are we doing something wrong tonight..?". Seriously my lad summed it up today he said there was "more life in a funeral party" than the crowd last night.

Other than that minor annoyance (and not having a HD camera with me given the lax security!) it was a pretty good show. I've become something of a lapsed Rush fan in recent years but last night restored my faith in the fact that they still put on a great live show. My only regret is that this was the only show I could afford to go to  :'(

Anyway credits to my lad for at least capturing something of the evening.

http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL5nYGVwSJz6tSXAhjVq1yui2IflQRr8DS (http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL5nYGVwSJz6tSXAhjVq1yui2IflQRr8DS)
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on May 23, 2013, 22:03:11 pm
Quote from: ghostwheel on May 23, 2013, 16:22:32 pm
Add to that the fact that the P/G, PoW and Presto tours never made it to the UK and I would say we were due a retrospective.

About time we had a Rush, Fly by Night, Caress of Steel and 2112 retrospective then.
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: Matt2112 on May 23, 2013, 22:12:10 pm
Quote from: Nick Sims on May 23, 2013, 22:03:11 pm
About time we had a Rush, Fly by Night, Caress of Steel and 2112 retrospective then.


ATWAS40. 8)
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: mikeyboy on May 23, 2013, 22:13:40 pm
great show. really enjoyed hearing a lot of songs i've not seen them do live before. i actually thought the CA stuff came across brilliantly. glad they played so much of the new album, shows they really believe in it. Carnies and headlong flight were real stand outs.

one thing to note nowhere near as many people at last nights show than their last 2 times at the MEN. nearly all the top tier was blocked off apart from a few rows in first 2 blocks each side. prices hiked up too much this time around maybe the reason?
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: karl on May 23, 2013, 22:15:39 pm
I was in Block 115 and had a great view. I thought the sound was ok but then these old ears probably couldn't tell the difference.
I am also of the belief that the 80s era is underrated so I enjoyed the set list.
People behind me were getting pissed off with people standing up and i was asked to sit down.
I only stood because the people in front of me were standing and I would have happily stood for the whole gig.
I think in these big arena gigs they should print a disclaimer on the ticket saying that people can or can't stand.
Some people buy tickets at the side because they can't stand for the whole gig.
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: Vapor Trailer on May 23, 2013, 22:34:19 pm
Quote from: TerrBerr on May 23, 2013, 16:25:41 pm
He actually threatened to kick ron's head in after the show.


Welcome to Manchester  :(

Good job i wasnt in your section otherwise blood might have spilled... :D

Did they mind awfully if you clapped at the end of each song? Idiots. Dont they understand Geddy blesses Ron's heart for being intense? Hope your other concerts allow more rocking out.
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: Thailand Express on May 23, 2013, 22:39:50 pm
Quote from: mikeyboy on May 23, 2013, 22:13:40 pm
one thing to note nowhere near as many people at last nights show than their last 2 times at the MEN. nearly all the top tier was blocked off apart from a few rows in first 2 blocks each side. prices hiked up too much this time around maybe the reason?


Were the prices hiked that much? (VIP nonsense apart).
Maybe it's overfamiliarity? As much as it pleases us hardcore to see them, there's not many other acts who I would go to see in arenas 4 times in 8 and a bit years...
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: ghostwheel on May 23, 2013, 22:56:11 pm
Quote from: Nick Sims on May 23, 2013, 22:03:11 pm
About time we had a Rush, Fly by Night, Caress of Steel and 2112 retrospective then.


Nah: as I've said elsewhere, Rush and Caress of Steel are bobbins.  How about a Fly by Night, 2112, AfTK and Hemispheres retrospective?  Though I think one of the problems is that Hemispheres was too high for Geddy in 1978, so his chances of singing it now are close to zero...
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: ghostwheel on May 23, 2013, 22:57:34 pm
Quote from: Thailand Express on May 23, 2013, 22:39:50 pm
Were the prices hiked that much? (VIP nonsense apart).



The prices have gone up astronomically: my tickeet was 75 quid last night.  Admittedly they've got to pay an entire orchestra now (shades of ELP...), but still...
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: Richard_2112 on May 23, 2013, 23:09:37 pm
Just over two years to the date was the last time I saw Rush in Newcastle and that turned into the worst weekend of my life. Last night was about resetting the balance. It certainly did the job!

I could niggle about the sound (yes it was awful sometimes, pretty boomy and Ged's bass was pretty nonexistent for large chunks of the night, but I put that down to MEN having some very strange blind spots) and the fact the crowd was very sullen but I just didn't care. I was in block 105 and I was stood up throughout, dancing, singing and air guitaring/bassing/drumming/keyboarding like my life depended on it! I glanced at the setlist last year but had totally forgotten it so every song was a complete surprise. I couldn't believe we got 4 songs from Power Windows! Stand outs of the first set were Analog Kid and The Pass (I was in tears through that. Really moving) But that second set was astounding! So much to the extent I would have happily gone without Dreamline and YYZ and had them play Clockwork Angels in full. For me though the song of the night was Red Sector A. Exceptionally powerful stuff especially with the added strings. Also thought Peart's best solo was on the electric kit.

Wish I'd been able to get out of work earlier so I could meet some of you lot in the pub before, but nice to bump into Ron, Terry, ARH and Zedskin afterwards. And what's with all the fit women suddenly attending Rush gigs!?

Onwards to Sheffield where I believe I'm going to be next to Slim...
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: Nance on May 23, 2013, 23:38:29 pm
We were in block 114 and had a decent view, but not where I expected (wanted) to be - but enough of the pre-sale ticket debacle  >:(
Most people near us were sitting down, and I have to admit we sat down most of the evening, but sitting twisted whilst trying to rock out is bad for the back. :o The was a woman near me ( and I apologise in advance if she is your significant other) with a "Osmonds" tour T -shirt on looking she was there under duress. There were a few females, looking like they "would be elsewhere if they could"
i would have stood up from the offset , but just got the wibes that there would be moaners.
There were some seriously miserable people near us and as previously mentioned the crowd was flat.  Mr Nance thinks that the setlist for the first section may have had an influence, because perhaps only hardcore fans would get it.  Perhaps 'people' dont go to hear  mid 80's stuff - their loss.
The new CA tracks  seemed just that, 'new' to the crowd near us and there was very little response.  A chap near me did a bit of whooping at the end of each track, and a few were standing on the ends on the rows. However I thoroughly enjoyed the CA tracks, esp Carnies and Headlong Flight.
The sound wasn't brilliant, I have certainly heard them much better at MEN, but that could be due to where we were siitting. And again already mentioned Geddy's bass dropped out completely on at least Red Sector A 

Nice to see the spotty dog putting in an appearance in the crowd :D

Bring on Birmingham.
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: captainkurtz on May 24, 2013, 00:09:16 am
Quote from: Nance on May 23, 2013, 23:38:29 pm
There were a few females, looking like they "would be elsewhere if they could"

There was a girl in the front row centre section who came with her boyfriend who sat for most of the gig looking misreable.   :-\
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: BaldiePete on May 24, 2013, 00:21:56 am
Quote from: AlexJ on May 24, 2013, 00:09:39 am
Now I may be wrong here or mis-remembering but I don't think Geddy played his bass during Red Sector A. After the drum solo, I looked across and definitely saw Geddy walk back on stage without his bass - a very unusual sight. I also noticed that he was stood at the keyboard without his bass for the whole song and I distinctly remember thinking I couldn't recall ever seeing that before.


I can back you up on that. I'm not sure if it was the whole song but he certainly started it without a bass.
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: Zed on May 24, 2013, 00:22:33 am
I think geddy drops the bass for red sector and afterimage.

Anyway I was sat in the gods n the sound was too boomy.
Couldn't hear the snare at all, especially in the great red sector!
Great first set, waiting for the one and only body electric!
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: Summerland on May 24, 2013, 00:24:16 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ivnvKIu4mg

'eddy doesn't carry or use the bass for Red Sector A - above link from 'race under pressure tour live video release


and this from r30

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YpmqeAgEA0
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on May 24, 2013, 00:27:52 am
Nice work iles.
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: Summerland on May 24, 2013, 00:40:54 am
And on the subject of that 80's tour that the vid came from:

The Spirit of Radio
Subdivisions
The Body Electric
Fear (Parts I-III):
- The Enemy Within
- The Weapon
- Witch Hunt
New World Man
Between the Wheels
Red Barchetta
Distant Early Warning
Red Sector A
Closer To The Heart (extended instumental break first added Sept. 14)
Afterimage (replaced by Kid Gloves beginning Sept. 14)
YYZ
2112 (Temples of Syrinx)
Tom Sawyer
Encore: Red Lenses (bass solo added beginning Oct. 18)
Drum Solo (moved to follow YYZ beginning Oct. 18)
Red Lenses
Vital Signs
Finding My Way
In The Mood

Pity the 'race under pressure tour never made it over here - with the exception of CTTH, this is sublime. Setlist from PowerWindowsnet
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: Summerland on May 24, 2013, 00:44:03 am
Quote from: Nick Sims on May 24, 2013, 00:27:52 am
Nice work iles.


touche (with an accent on the 'e', I don't have that key either)
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on May 24, 2013, 00:45:24 am
Quote from: Summerland on May 24, 2013, 00:44:03 am
touche (with an accent on the 'e', I don't have that key either)

I'll début mine then :)
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: Summerland on May 24, 2013, 00:53:47 am
http://rushvault.com/2012/09/16/who-are-the-string-musicians-in-clockwork-angels/

Q107 video is interestin'

http://www.rushisaband.com/blog/2012/09/16/3316/Getting-to-know-the-Clockwork-Angels-String-Ensemble

All you ever wanted to know - well not all, maybe
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: Rrroooaaarrr on May 24, 2013, 04:20:09 am
Quote from: captainkurtz on May 24, 2013, 00:09:16 am
There was a girl in the front row centre section who came with her boyfriend who sat for most of the gig looking misreable.   :-\
A woman sat in front of me was bopping all night, in fact most of the females I noticed around me were enjoying the show. I think we were too high up for anyone to stand. You wouldn't want to suffer from vertigo that's for sure.
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: Rrroooaaarrr on May 24, 2013, 04:22:56 am
Quote from: Captain Ron on May 23, 2013, 17:35:48 pm
Arse, that was me, terry, replying. Ron must have logged in on my phone.
Thanks for the lift from the airport. See you guys in Birmingham :)
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: Lyth on May 24, 2013, 10:28:34 am
 :)

So, Manchester...

It was a really enjoyable evening (and afternoon, for that matter). No problems with the people around us. One guy was getting a bit twitchy during the second half and shouted out for 'Limelight' a few times. Bless.

For 3 guys in their late '50s/early '60s, the performance was superb. Geddy's voice was fine and it was good to hear that, on occasion, he went low and didn't try to struggle to reach his previous highs. How long they can carry playing for this amount of time for this long is another question though. Peart looked knackered and - after he'd done his first solo, gone back into 'Where's My Thing?' and played that big fill towards the end - the camera close-up showed him blowing his cheeks out. Never ever seen him do that before. Splitting the solo into 3 parts was a good idea. The third one was great - very Tangerine Dream in places.

As ever, the whole gig was well rehearsed but they did show that were human with a couple of noticeable (well, by me anyway) mistakes - firstly when Peart slowed down too early during the mid section of 'The Wreckers' and then when both him and Alex seemed to screw up the intro of 'Wish Them Well'. Ah, live music...

The glut of '80s material during the first set has been long overdue an airing. 'Grand Designs' and 'Middletown Dreams' at last!!! I must admit getting a tad emotional during the latter. Well, I had waited a very long time to hear one of my favourite songs live.

The Clockwork Angels set was really impressive. Top notch lighting with films to match. Fortunately there was not too much of the Rush 'humour' going on but why do they persist with those bloody films? The opener was OK as it was short, but the one before the second set - what the feck!!? We didn't stop for the last film. We'll probably stay on to watch it in Birmingham although I don't know if that'll be a good thing.

From where we were sitting (just in front of the mixing desk), the sound was pretty good throughout.

From there we also had a great view of 'the show'. The lighting and films were used quite sparingly during the first set (it almost served as a 'support set' to the Clockwork Angels half of the show) but some of the effects in the second set were really effective. Especially the rain effect with the lights during 'The Wreckers'.

So yeah, it was all really enjoyable and being able to take in the whole show from a distance put a different angle on my usual experience of  being close up at a Rush gig.

I'm doing that on Sunday though... ;D
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: TerrBerr on May 24, 2013, 11:08:29 am
Quote from: Vapor Trailer on May 23, 2013, 22:34:19 pm
Did they mind awfully if you clapped at the end of each song? Idiots. Dont they understand Geddy blesses Ron's heart for being intense? Hope your other concerts allow more rocking out.


Like!

The guy was a knob, he did indeed continue to object long after we'd sat down. Ron continued to rock out in his intense way however and that too seemed to irritate the guy.
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: Nance on May 24, 2013, 20:22:48 pm


I didn't say Geddy's guitar dropped out, but the bass dropped out, presumably either the pedals or a keyboard fault??  Either way, it wasn't right.

Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: GlezgaRed on May 24, 2013, 21:47:40 pm
Quote from: AlexJ on May 24, 2013, 00:46:57 am
Can't believe we're 4 pages in and no-one's mentioned the spray on leather trousers and the high heel boots (and I'm not talking about Alex)  ;)




Yep, had a perfect line of sight of her from Geddy's side.....she stood all the time she was playing and appeared up on the video screen a fair few times, looked very tidy indeed  :)
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: BaldiePete on May 24, 2013, 23:08:29 pm
Quote from: GlezgaRed on May 24, 2013, 21:47:40 pm

Yep, had a perfect line of sight of her from Geddy's side.....she stood all the time she was playing and appeared up on the video screen a fair few times, looked very tidy indeed  :)


Are we talking about the red-headed cello player ? She was hot  ;D
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: Rrroooaaarrr on May 25, 2013, 07:24:28 am
So, London got - The Body Electric / Bravado / Seven Cities Of Gold and Manhatten Project. Think I preferred the Manchester set a little more.
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: BaldiePete on May 25, 2013, 08:06:48 am
Manhattan Project would have been nice but the first set is (even) worse.
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: Bez on May 25, 2013, 10:00:23 am
A few early thoughts :

Set 1 needed a kick up the arse, but was well performed....
Enjoyed the CA stuff more than I thought
The strings added to the sound
The red haired cello player was hot  ::)
The strings were "well into it"
Sound was pretty good where we were, bass a little low.
Great to see so many familiar faces, the only downer was that it was difficult to see and chat to everyone because the pub was packed....
Zoony is lighter than he looks.... ;)
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: BaldiePete on May 25, 2013, 10:07:04 am
Quote from: Bez on May 25, 2013, 10:00:23 am
A few early thoughts :

Set 1 needed a kick up the arse, but was well performed....


My thoughts exactly.

Quote
Zoony is lighter than he looks.... ;)


Low density ?
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: Bez on May 25, 2013, 11:07:34 am
Quote from: BaldiePete on May 25, 2013, 10:07:04 am
Low density ?


Maybe it was alcohol fuelled....I seem to be sweating red wine this morning  :o

A couple more thoughts :

The videos are shite
Why did the people dressed as "funny" things appear on stage ?
Alex's hair looked much better close up than in some of the pictures
Headlong Flight is the best song performed live on CA
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: BaldiePete on May 25, 2013, 11:14:43 am
The first video is OK since it is quite short but the one at the start of the 2nd set is toe-curlingly bad. The one at the end should be used as an excuse to get out before the masses.
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: pdw1 on May 25, 2013, 11:17:47 am
The first set was wonderful. I blubbed through Grand Designs - I never thought I would hear it live. I couldnt believe it when Geddy said they had to leave so Alex could have his medication; it felt like they had only been on for 20 minutes.
CA live was brilliant. The string section fitted in very nicely. The sound where we were standing (near the mixing desk) was incredible with the string crystal clear.

Scariest sight of the night, even more so than seeing Bez and Oz on the big screen was spotting Zoony stripped down to his vest at the interval  :-X

It was a night for the uber 80s fans and I loved it.

Patrick

PS The guy sat in front of me had obviously never heard anything post moving pictures and especially through CA just sat there looking lost then texting a friend in Vegas to complain he didnt recognise any songs and he had preferred Take That  :o
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: captainkurtz on May 25, 2013, 11:24:26 am
Well, that was my 21st Rush gig and I'd say after Newcastle on the last tour, it was my favourite.

There's definitely something to be said for sitting on the side tier - had a perfect view and the sound was crystal throughout - also the strings came through much much better than they did at Manchester, where I was second row.

The new stuff was actually the highlight for me.

Nice to see people on the way in...and Pudders inside (we meet at last!)

Really enjoyed that, brilliant.
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: snodes on May 25, 2013, 11:52:25 am
Loved the whole spectacle of it and thought it was brave of them to focus on the 80s and 90s stuff in the first half, I wouldn't have chosen half the songs they did but seeing as other folks clearly really enjoyed them that's fine! I wish they'd focus more on songs with tunes  than so much of the noisy clever stuff - there was a sense of relief when they cracked into Spirit. CA stuff was OK , esp Headllong, Wreckers and The Garden. Bring on R40!
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: jarvo on May 25, 2013, 12:20:40 pm
Really enjoyed last night for me it wasn't the best setlist I've seen, butI love subdivisions and the 80's stuff so a great way to start!

CA with the strings sounded amazing it worked really well, The Garden came across beautifully and you beat 2112 to finish.

Front row was amazing I can now die happy!

Thanks to the guys in the pilot for the friendly TNMS welcome muppet blast zone Zoony to name but a few. Neil P great to meet you at last would have been great to chat longer.... Maybe next time? PDW Patrick I missed you by seconds apparently!

Special thanks to japes and his wife for keeping me company and letting me have his half a beer in the interval! If I'd waited to buy ne I'd have missed the second half! Roll on the next tour I'll be back
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: NeilP on May 25, 2013, 13:43:37 pm
will catch up with you on a future London visit Dave, great to meet you at last
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: ophidianman on May 25, 2013, 15:19:12 pm
My pics from Manchester, row P block C. The closest to the stage I've ever been since they upgraded from Hammy Odeon sized venues.

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10151710175638064.1073741841.675053063&type=1&l=481dce8c52
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: Japes on May 25, 2013, 16:33:48 pm
Some pics from last night...

http://flic.kr/s/aHsjFo7889 (http://flic.kr/s/aHsjFo7889)
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: Stephen on May 25, 2013, 17:22:38 pm
Quote from: Japes on May 25, 2013, 16:33:48 pm
Some pics from last night...

http://flic.kr/s/aHsjFo7889 (http://flic.kr/s/aHsjFo7889)


Lovely images!
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: lcd on May 25, 2013, 17:37:55 pm
Was seated front row top tier In line with the stage Alex's side.
Sound was not great up there , a little distorted. Couldn't see all the screen as a lighting rig was obscuring it.
Looking down towards the stage there was not enough fans allowed up to the front , remembering the old Hammersmith days when you surged to the front and rocked out for all the gig.everything seems so clinical and regimented nowadays. So it's probably the last "sit down "gig I will see Rush in . For me you can't beat somewhere like the Ahoy to really get a great atmosphere.
Mind you ,you get a cracking atmosphere at the Eucon event .. Crewe was a tremendous day. Roll on October.
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: Japes on May 25, 2013, 18:08:46 pm
Last night at The O2 was one of the highlights of my life following Rush greatly helped by being at the front and seeing the 'whites of their eyes' so to speak. Loved the set list and the 80's songs but the CA songs live take on a new dimension - Headlong Flight is an absolute monster of a song!!

Part of the Rush concert experience in the last 10 years or so has been meeting up with folk from TNMS and this year is no exception although due to there being so many of us not enough time was spent catching up properly - Eucon will put that right as there will be many tales of the tour to share with each other I'm sure.

Jarvo, it was great to meet you and so grateful you posted about the last minute front row seats being available  :-)
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: zoony on May 25, 2013, 19:48:26 pm
Quote from: Bez on May 25, 2013, 10:00:23 am
A few early thoughts :


Zoony is lighter than he looks.... ;)


Fair play mate, someone else tried to lift me and failed miserably. I'd imagine that the non TNMSers in the pub found it a surreal momnt to see me and you bearhugging each other!
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: Pudders on May 25, 2013, 19:53:13 pm
A couple of videos form last night - sound better than they look but not to shabby :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3sIdmUiowM&feature=youtu.be (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3sIdmUiowM&feature=youtu.be)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Go_x6ROehGY&feature=youtu.be (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Go_x6ROehGY&feature=youtu.be)
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: zoony on May 25, 2013, 20:08:26 pm
What a fantastic day in London yesterday. We all knew the weather forecast was shit, but did we let it bother us? Did we hell! Me and Iantheholte had a good trip down on the train, then onto the tube to our hotel. I'd only been on the tube once before over 20 years ago, and was mightily impressed with the service it offers. It's a million miles from the public transport we have where we live! The premier inn we were in at Stratford was faultless, even though we were on the top floor, and as you can imagine, I took full advantage of the all you can eat breakfast  ;). I didn't realise that we were so close to the olympic stadium as well. Fter finding our way to The pilot, and getting a bit of a soaking, we enjoyed a stellar TNMS meet up. I must say it was very humbling to be greeted so warmly by you all. I know I can put my foot in it at times, but I'd like to think that you all know I'm a genuine down to earth guy. Far too many names to mention, brilliant to see you all, and nice to meet some of you that I've never met before. A few of you were lucky enough to get a Zoony bearhug, and Bez returned the favour. The owners might need to check the foundations after that! Sunk a fair few beers before heading for the impressive O2 arena, we were about 10 rows back in block B, and had a good view. I really rocked out to the first set, and as pdw1 has pointed out, I had to get down to my vest. Really enjoyed the CA stuff, although there was an incident that did put a bit of a damper on things for me during the second set. I don't want to mention it on here, but will tell you about it at the LG tomorrow. Overall I thought the concert itself was just brilliant, and it's hard to believe that they're still performing as good as this after all these years! Got ripped off by a taxi driver when we got back to where our hotel was and we wanted to go for something to eat, but that's nothing new for me and Ian, as these kind of things tend to happen we go anywhere together! Had a good journey back on the train, although it was a bit frustrating to see the beautiful sunshine after what we'd had yesterday! Really looking forward to our second and last show at the LG arena tomorrow, which is our "local", only being about 40 miles away. See you all again tomorrow, and hopefully some more we never met yesterday.
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: Thailand Express on May 25, 2013, 20:46:18 pm
This guy certainly didn't enjoy himself...

http://lawblogone.wordpress.com/2013/05/25/rush-live-at-the-o2-arena-london-may-2013-review/
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: pdw1 on May 25, 2013, 21:28:45 pm
Quote from: Thailand Express on May 25, 2013, 20:46:18 pm
This guy certainly didn't enjoy himself...

http://lawblogone.wordpress.com/2013/05/25/rush-live-at-the-o2-arena-london-may-2013-review/

::)
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: NeilP on May 25, 2013, 21:38:58 pm
I take it he wasn't in 101 or 102 then?
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: lcd on May 25, 2013, 22:02:43 pm
Zoony , I hope you weren't ripped off by a London licensed Black cab.
It's virtually  a straight forward route from Greenwich .. Through the pipe and turn right at Bow flyover. Any other route taken and you should of taken his number and report him to TFL.
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: pdw1 on May 25, 2013, 22:26:51 pm
Quote from: jarvo on May 25, 2013, 12:20:40 pm
PDW Patrick I missed you by seconds apparently!

Buggers. Glad you enjoyed your front row seat. Bastard  :-*
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: Neillwith2Ls on May 25, 2013, 23:47:24 pm
What a thoroughly fantastic gig last night; my first Rush show in 9 years due to reasons most on here know about!

Anyway, the slow journey up on a traffic-choked and rainy M25 dampened the spirits a little I guess, and Neil P, Pudders, Lou and I were gasping for a pint by the time we finally rolled up to VIP Valet Parking (most surreal!) around at around 4.30pm. A little walk down to The Pilot, and we met up with Japes and his wife (nice to meet you both!). The pub was heaving and chock full off TNMSers, some old friends, some I'd not met before. I think Zoony put it well when he said everyone was made to feel most welcome by one and all. As it should be :)

We rolled into the venue at around 7.15 I guess, unaware that there'd been a delay in opening the doors (seriously, a fox loose in the arena?!) and Lucy and I made our way to Block A2, row D, seats 29 & 30, and what great seats they were. Dead centre, closer than I'd ever been at a gig this size, let alone a Rush gig. Paz and Dave Egan were to our right too. I picked out Bez and Oz on the barriers, with Japes and Mrs. Japes a little way to their right. Pudders and Lou looked like they had a good spot in the wheelchair platform on Alex's side too.

I was spoiled setlist-wise, so the 80's set 1 came as no surprise but I enjoyed it nonetheless. I wouldn't have picked this setlist, and whilst it did need a bit of a rocket up its arse I was surprised at how much I enjoyed it really. The openers of Subdivisions and Big Money helped; A Show OF Hands was the first Rush live album I owned, and is very familiar to me. The sound was spot on where we were, Geddy's vocals buried a little at times, but that may have been the delivery. There's lots of eye contact with the band, and it was great seeing them so close up. I went a bit snap-happy with the camera, but got some great shots as it turned out (link at the end).

Set 2 was better, and the CA material came across very well indeed. I like the album a lot, and sang along to most of it. The band clearly relish performing it and believe in the material. The Anarchist was fantastic, and Headlong Flight was a performance up there with their famous instrumentals. Lucy and I had a little dance during The Garden too, awww! The crowd-pleasers at the end, and in the encore, seemed to me like an acquiesce of sorts. But you couldn't deny the reaction YYZ got when Neil tinkled away in the intro; it was as if half the arena were waking up. To not play anything pre-Signals until about 10pm was a brave and defiant move I thought. There'll be unhappy punters no doubt. Was most amusing to see Bez suddenly appear on the main video screen, then see him suddenly recognise himself - priceless moment!

All in all a fantastic experience, and the O2 delivered once again. Great venue, very well-run, polite and helpful staff all round too. The only gripe I had all day was the price of merch. £30 for a tour t-shirt is outrageous. Not that any of the designs were any good anyway, and I decided to keep my £30.

A decent run home once out of the clutches of Greenwich, and Neil P and I even indulged in Leatherhead's post-pub takeaway facilities.

Some (alright, 50) photos of the gig: https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10151663563607387.1073741825.731477386&type=1&l=c687dd9b3f
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: zoony on May 26, 2013, 00:00:47 am
Quote from: lcd on May 25, 2013, 22:02:43 pm
Zoony , I hope you weren't ripped off by a London licensed Black cab.
It's virtually  a straight forward route from Greenwich .. Through the pipe and turn right at Bow flyover. Any other route taken and you should of taken his number and report him to TFL.


The reason he ripped us off mate was that we asked him to take us to an Indian restaurant, and he drove to where there were a couple of places where you could eat inside, but they were really takeaways, and the fare was £17-60. When we got back, in a cab that we got from an office just down from the takeaway, and who only charged us a tenner, we discovered that there were plenty of eating places just a couple of minutes from where we'd got our original taxi from!
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: Pudders on May 26, 2013, 01:22:47 am
Quote from: Neillwith2Ls on May 25, 2013, 23:47:24 pm
What a thoroughly fantastic gig last night; my first Rush show in 9 years due to reasons most on here know about!

Anyway, the slow journey up on a traffic-choked and rainy M25 dampened the spirits a little I guess, and Neil P, Pudders, Lou and I were gasping for a pint by the time we finally rolled up to VIP Valet Parking (most surreal!) around at around 4.30pm. A little walk down to The Pilot, and we met up with Japes and his wife (nice to meet you both!). The pub was heaving and chock full off TNMSers, some old friends, some I'd not met before. I think Zoony put it well when he said everyone was made to feel most welcome by one and all. As it should be :)

We rolled into the venue at around 7.15 I guess, unaware that there'd been a delay in opening the doors (seriously, a fox loose in the arena?!) and Lucy and I made our way to Block A2, row D, seats 29 & 30, and what great seats they were. Dead centre, closer than I'd ever been at a gig this size, let alone a Rush gig. Paz and Dave Egan were to our right too. I picked out Bez and Oz on the barriers, with Japes and Mrs. Japes a little way to their right. Pudders and Lou looked like they had a good spot in the wheelchair platform on Alex's side too.

I was spoiled setlist-wise, so the 80's set 1 came as no surprise but I enjoyed it nonetheless. I wouldn't have picked this setlist, and whilst it did need a bit of a rocket up its arse I was surprised at how much I enjoyed it really. The openers of Subdivisions and Big Money helped; A Show OF Hands was the first Rush live album I owned, and is very familiar to me. The sound was spot on where we were, Geddy's vocals buried a little at times, but that may have been the delivery. There's lots of eye contact with the band, and it was great seeing them so close up. I went a bit snap-happy with the camera, but got some great shots as it turned out (link at the end).

Set 2 was better, and the CA material came across very well indeed. I like the album a lot, and sang along to most of it. The band clearly relish performing it and believe in the material. The Anarchist was fantastic, and Headlong Flight was a performance up there with their famous instrumentals. Lucy and I had a little dance during The Garden too, awww! The crowd-pleasers at the end, and in the encore, seemed to me like an acquiesce of sorts. But you couldn't deny the reaction YYZ got when Neil tinkled away in the intro; it was as if half the arena were waking up. To not play anything pre-Signals until about 10pm was a brave and defiant move I thought. There'll be unhappy punters no doubt. Was most amusing to see Bez suddenly appear on the main video screen, then see him suddenly recognise himself - priceless moment!

All in all a fantastic experience, and the O2 delivered once again. Great venue, very well-run, polite and helpful staff all round too. The only gripe I had all day was the price of merch. £30 for a tour t-shirt is outrageous. Not that any of the designs were any good anyway, and I decided to keep my £30.

A decent run home once out of the clutches of Greenwich, and Neil P and I even indulged in Leatherhead's post-pub takeaway facilities.

Some (alright, 50) photos of the gig: https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10151663563607387.1073741825.731477386&type=1&l=c687dd9b3f


Nice review mate!

'spose I'd better say something........ ;)
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: Neillwith2Ls on May 26, 2013, 01:38:01 am
What was on the t-shirt; that at least! :D
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: Pudders on May 26, 2013, 01:46:56 am
Soooooo.....as Neill says bit of a shit journey up but it got a lot better with the surreal 'VIP/Valet' parking experience! Sorely tempted to try and blag our way into the VIP area itself but would have probably ended up messy so we wheeled Lou through some nice ambient lighting and headed off down to the Pilot. Great seeing so many people but was frustrating not to be able to spend some decent time with folk, and Lou was doubly frustrated as she could only manage brief forays out into the crowd - still was very good!

Blagged a taxi up to the arena with fellow Palace fans Dave Ling & Steve Way and made our way in to see what the Platform was like, but was disappointed to bump into our mates Dave and Baz who after much ticket hassle over the last few days found out they had purchased fake tickets off Seatwave! O2 gave them a pair up in the gods but they left the show after 15 minutes as they were just so shit....... Dave gets a another shot from row 5 or 6 tomorrow at Brum but Baz is screwed. Really felt for them......  :-\

Anyway our spot was fantastic and I was blown away by the first set not having been spoiled for a change! Highlights were Analog Kid and Grand Designs but I love all that 80's shit ;D Great to have a quick chat with Hassan in the break after years of just missing each other before settling down for the second half. Thought the CA stuff was fantastic live and the addition of the strings worked so well!

At encore time Lou had begged me to stand up and try and catch a t-shirt but being the shy retiring type I wasn't that keen - come the moment though it was 'feck it, Alex!!! Over here!! chuck a bloody shirt to me!' To his credit, after the first one went over my head he looked me straight in the eye, mouthed 'for you' and hit the target! Yay! (apologies to the guy in front who might have mistakenly thought he was the target only to see a pair of hands suddenly appear in front of him ::) ;D

Great show, great night, coupel of decent video memories and a day of interesting debate with the rock journalism fraternity on Facebook, some of who loved it and some who didn't. Each to his own, I can't wait for Birmingham!
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: Pudders on May 26, 2013, 01:49:49 am
Quote from: Neillwith2Ls on May 26, 2013, 01:38:01 am
What was on the t-shirt; that at least! :D


It's weird!!  Says 'I Love Lamp' on the back and fecking odd photo on the front!

It's mine though, all mine, and will be worn tomorrow! (As long as Lou lets me.....)
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: Neillwith2Ls on May 26, 2013, 02:05:02 am
Nice write up mate, and congrats on the shirt :)
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: Lucy on May 26, 2013, 10:33:56 am
cool you got a t shirt Neil! Look forward to seeing it later today.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: Stephen on May 26, 2013, 15:09:36 pm
Quote from: Thailand Express on May 25, 2013, 20:46:18 pm
This guy certainly didn't enjoy himself...

http://lawblogone.wordpress.com/2013/05/25/rush-live-at-the-o2-arena-london-may-2013-review/


I enjoyed the gig, but the sound in block 102 wasn't great - too much bass drum and Geddy's bass muffled.

Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: Norwegian on May 26, 2013, 21:36:07 pm
Quote from: Japes on May 25, 2013, 16:33:48 pm
Some pics from last night...

http://flic.kr/s/aHsjFo7889 (http://flic.kr/s/aHsjFo7889)
very nice Japes!
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: andyhaines on May 26, 2013, 23:39:00 pm
I loved the gig on Friday night. My last show was at Glasgow on the Time Macine tour and that was a little disappointing. The best thing for me was hearing the new album live. I thought it was a great album from the minute I got it, but you do wonder how it will stack up against their greatest material.... I thought on Friday that the new album matched and surpassed any of their 'classic' songs. :)
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: Dave64K on May 27, 2013, 10:56:13 am
Quote from: Stephen on May 26, 2013, 15:09:36 pm
I enjoyed the gig, but the sound in block 102 wasn't great - too much bass drum and Geddy's bass muffled.


Got to agree with Stephen on the sound which took the edge off a great show for me. I was in block A3 and had the same experience (so did my mate farther back in block A2)

Will maybe try stage right in Amsterdam to see if that helps (although Lerxst has no backline now........but hairline looked like it was enjoying upgrades)  :)
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: Bez on May 27, 2013, 11:05:49 am
Just realised I put my post in the wrong thread, here it is complete with spoilers...

A few thoughts from Birmingham.....

Midlands accents are strange and the word "Bostin'" is still in common use.
The East car park  might as well be by the M6 its that far away from the arena
The Crowne Plaza sells expensive drinks, but has a lovely garden.
Rush fans are a lot of fun.
I've never hugged as many different people in a couple of days, as I have over the past 2 gigs
Added some new TNMSers to my collection : Razza, Pricey, Kate, Angus, Sharpy & Sharpy junior (in a service station on the M6  ::) ) and probably some more who's names escape me at the moment....
There's never enough time for a real conversation at pre-gig meets
Sound was slightly more balanced than at London (from where I was).
The Garden is the Tai Shan of CA and an excellent "Piss break"
Talking of piss breaks, I must have wandered into a uni-sex lash-house and the space between the door and the front of the pan would have been cramped even for a small person... :-\
Set one needs more of a kick up the arse the second time round
Some of the set list changes work really well, the downside is they rotate out some of the better songs.
I really enjoyed The Pass over Bravado & Middletown Dreams over TBE. I prefer SCoG to Wish Them Well and its a tie between The Manhatten Project & Dreamline
I don't need to hear Red Sector A ever again
Neil should sell the electronic kit - 3rd drum solo is totally pointless. I also thought that he fecked up the first section of the first solo (was ever so slightly behind where he should have been), maybe one of the drummers on here can comment.
I did prefer breaking the solo down, rather than the marathons that we used to get.
The acoustic set seems to have lost a couple of toms as well.
The strings on Ged's side are not quite as "in to it" as the one's on Al's side...they were still rocking though and would be welcome back on tour again in the future
Alex's hair didn't look as good at Brum as it did in London.
VIP tickets are rubbish....I saw people with VIP passes at least 10 rows back at Brum
People in Brum aren't very good at catching  ::)

More later....
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: Neilyyz on May 27, 2013, 11:16:21 am
What was the setlist last night, I dont mean the whole thing, just interested to know if it was the same as Manc or the London one ????
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: BaldiePete on May 27, 2013, 11:38:19 am
Quote from: Neilyyz on May 27, 2013, 11:16:21 am
What was the setlist last night, I dont mean the whole thing, just interested to know if it was the same as Manc or the London one ????


Same as Manc.
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: Neilyyz on May 27, 2013, 12:44:57 pm
Thanks Pete, so it would appear that it is a straight alternated set. My mate will be well pleased as his favourite track from CA was not played at Manc but was in the set at the 02 and he is going to Sheff on Tuesday. I have not named the song so as not to be a "spoiler" so to speak but you will know which one I am on about Pete.

Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: Thailand Express on May 27, 2013, 13:22:22 pm
Any reviews of the gigs in the press yet?  There's been quite a few in recent years, surprised by the absence of them this time...
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on May 27, 2013, 13:34:42 pm
LG Arena Review from the Express and Star

http://www.expressandstar.com/entertainment/music/2013/05/27/concert-review-rush-lg-arena-birmingham/
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: zoony on May 27, 2013, 16:43:33 pm
Well my RUSH tour experience is over for another year, but what a fantastic couple of days I've had over the bank holiday weekend. I wrote my review on the O2 experience, so here we go for yesterday. The LG arena is only about an hour away from us, but you don't hit the motorway until the last half of the journey. Iantheholte kindly volunteered to drive. After parking up at about 3-45 we headed for the Crowne plaza. It was very nice in there, but the beer was dearer than London! The lovely sunshiney weather made the meet up more enjoyable than the one at The pilot, and as well as having a great time with a lot of the same TNMSers as on friday, it was great to meet up with some that I haven't seen for a while, and I got to chat with quite a few of you as well. Good to finally get to have a covo with Hass, who's a charming, generous guy, and NeilP was on great form as well. I told a few people about the incident that caused set 2 at the O2 to be a bit upsetting for me on sunday, and was glad to hear that everyone was of the same opinion that I shouldn't let it bother me about what happened, as the person who it concerned was "a strange 'un". Had a very nice jacket potato with chilli and cheese in the arena, and as me and Ian made our way to our seats, a cry of "ZOONY!" came from a guy sat in one of the side blocks. I can honestly say I didn't have a clue who he was, and can only assume that it must be someone who comes on here who keeps themselves to themselves! There were 3 seats inbetween me and Ian that were taken up by a couple, and a male friend of theirs. I asked them if we could swap over at the interval to which they obliged without any problem. The single bloke who was stood by me for the first set was a tad odd though, cheering wildly at some songs, but sitting down during others mumbling that he didn't like them. He never even bothered to turn up after the interval until half way through the 3rd song! The show itself was magnificent again, although I don't think the first set was quite as good as London. The difference in setlists made no odds to me, I love all RUSH music. I thought the CA stuff was stunning again, and The anarchist and Carnies are really pushing to be the best 2 successive songs on any RUSH album. Good to see plenty of TNMSers from our viewpoint, with ARH, Zoe, Fred and The letter R all rocking out impressively. Our seats 20 rows back were very good, but it does kill my knees and feet to stand for so long these days, and would be happier sat down on the side in the future. We got away from the arena pretty quick, and were partaking in a drivethru Macdonalds back in Kidderminster at 11-40. I think Lonon show edged it, but yesterdays meet up came out on top. 2 of the best days I've had in a while though  :)
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: zoony on May 27, 2013, 17:25:05 pm
Quote from: zoony on May 27, 2013, 16:43:33 pm
Well my RUSH tour experience is over for another year, but what a fantastic couple of days I've had over the bank holiday weekend. I wrote my review on the O2 experience, so here we go for yesterday. The LG arena is only about an hour away from us, but you don't hit the motorway until the last half of the journey. Iantheholte kindly volunteered to drive. After parking up at about 3-45 we headed for the Crowne plaza. It was very nice in there, but the beer was dearer than London! The lovely sunshiney weather made the meet up more enjoyable than the one at The pilot, and as well as having a great time with a lot of the same TNMSers as on friday, it was great to meet up with some that I haven't seen for a while, and I got to chat with quite a few of you as well. Good to finally get to have a covo with Hass, who's a charming, generous guy, and NeilP was on great form as well. I told a few people about the incident that caused set 2 at the O2 to be a bit upsetting for me on sunday, and was glad to hear that everyone was of the same opinion that I shouldn't let it bother me about what happened, as the person who it concerned was "a strange 'un". Had a very nice jacket potato with chilli and cheese in the arena, and as me and Ian made our way to our seats, a cry of "ZOONY!" came from a guy sat in one of the side blocks. I can honestly say I didn't have a clue who he was, and can only assume that it must be someone who comes on here who keeps themselves to themselves! There were 3 seats inbetween me and Ian that were taken up by a couple, and a male friend of theirs. I asked them if we could swap over at the interval to which they obliged without any problem. The single bloke who was stood by me for the first set was a tad odd though, cheering wildly at some songs, but sitting down during others mumbling that he didn't like them. He never even bothered to turn up after the interval until half way through the 3rd song! The show itself was magnificent again, although I don't think the first set was quite as good as London. The difference in setlists made no odds to me, I love all RUSH music. I thought the CA stuff was stunning again, and The anarchist and Carnies are really pushing to be the best 2 successive songs on any RUSH album. Good to see plenty of TNMSers from our viewpoint, with ARH, Zoe, Fred and The letter R all rocking out impressively. Our seats 20 rows back were very good, but it does kill my knees and feet to stand for so long these days, and would be happier sat down on the side in the future. We got away from the arena pretty quick, and were partaking in a drivethru Macdonalds back in Kidderminster at 11-40. I think Lonon show edged it, but yesterdays meet up came out on top. 2 of the best days I've had in a while though  :)


And I'd just like to say a big thank you to my companion, Iantheholte. We always seem to have a bit of drama, or a Doh! moment or two when we go to RUSH concerts, but we also always have a good laugh, and a great time  8).
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on May 27, 2013, 17:32:04 pm
Quote from: zoony on May 27, 2013, 16:43:33 pm
The single bloke who was stood by me for the first set was a tad odd though, cheering wildly at some songs, but sitting down during others mumbling that he didn't like them.

I don't recall being near you Zooners...
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: BaldiePete on May 27, 2013, 19:43:56 pm
Classic Rock's Dave Ling hated it.

http://www.daveling.co.uk/diary.htm

QuoteGotta admit, last night's gig from Rush at the O2 Arena underwhelmed me. Sure, the presentation was lavish... for the ticket prices (£65-£85) it had to be... but as a fan of a very specific era of the Canadian group's history, I found the set-list most unsatisfying. Barring one song, the first of two sets was culled entirely from the trio's keyboard-led albums of the 1980s... uggggh. After the interval they introduced an eight-person string section and began performing tunes from their most recent disc, 'Clockwork Angels', a record that I enjoyed a lot... however, I didn't want to hear them play the damned thing in its entirety (or so it felt) - a huge, unforgiving, leaden chunk. A soporific mood gradually took hold and I was far from alone in sinking back into my seat. Being blunt, as the second set drew on it, my O2 experience began to feel like torture. Despite a particularly sadistic rumour that Rush had performed the 'Caress Of Steel' classic 'Lakeside Park' in Manchester 24 hours earlier (untrue, of course - though I was inclined to believe it given the lyric of "Everyone would gather/On the twenty-fourth of May"), apart from the three-song '2112' medley that closed the show they included ZILCH from the 1970s. Had I seen the set-list in advance I'd have stayed home.
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on May 27, 2013, 20:58:55 pm
Quote from: BaldiePete on May 27, 2013, 19:43:56 pm
Classic Rock's Dave Ling hated it.

My new bestest friend :)
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: ophidianman on May 27, 2013, 21:07:54 pm
Quote from: zoony on May 27, 2013, 16:43:33 pm
Had a very nice jacket potato with chilli and cheese in the arena, and as me and Ian made our way to our seats, a cry of "ZOONY!" came from a guy sat in one of the side blocks. I can honestly say I didn't have a clue who he was, and can only assume that it must be someone who comes on here who keeps themselves to themselves!



Ahem. That slaphead was me.......Recognised you (easily) from your pics on here  :).
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: TerrBerr on May 27, 2013, 21:10:27 pm
Awesome day yeaterday but i had a few pints too many. luckily i was only slightly mashed at the start of the show so i remember it all and ron and i really rocked out, standing with no complaints from folks around. epic pre and post gig meet.

My apologies to anyone who I offended or mounted or spilled beer on last night.
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: Slim on May 27, 2013, 21:14:00 pm
QuoteDespite a particularly sadistic rumour that Rush had performed the 'Caress Of Steel' classic 'Lakeside Park' in Manchester 24 hours earlier (untrue, of course - though I was inclined to believe it given the lyric of "Everyone would gather/On the twenty-fourth of May"


I started that rumour.

(http://groover.kicks-ass.net/images/ls_rumour.png)

Just checked, and Dave Ling is indeed among Pudders' Facebook friends. Apologies, Dave :D
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: Thailand Express on May 27, 2013, 21:18:01 pm
Quote from: BaldiePete on May 27, 2013, 19:43:56 pm
Classic Rock's Dave Ling hated it.

http://www.daveling.co.uk/diary.htm


Well he is kinda stuck in the 70s....

(http://daveling.co.uk/gallery/lingmetal800.jpg)
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: BaldiePete on May 27, 2013, 21:26:33 pm
Quote from: TerrBerr on May 27, 2013, 21:10:27 pm
Awesome day yeaterday but i had a few pints too many. luckily i was only slightly mashed at the start of the show so i remember it all and ron and i really rocked out, standing with no complaints from folks around. epic pre and post gig meet.

My apologies to anyone who I offended or mounted or spilled beer on last night.


You were trying to get me to go to Glasgow on Wednesday night which I explained I couldn't because (a) it's 40 miles away and (b) I have to take my wife to a hospital appointment on Thursday morning. You obviously completely  forgot this because 30 minutes later  when I was heading upstairs you bounded over shouting, "BP, are you coming to Glasgow on Wednesday". I explained  that I'd already said I couldn't go  and you totally denied I'd ever said that. I certainly wasn't offended but I was highly amused.   ;D
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: Slim on May 27, 2013, 21:34:36 pm
I'm not stuck in the '70s, but I do think the old bugger has a point.

I very much enjoyed the first set (in Manchester), and I very much enjoyed the second set despite the presence of a couple of clunkers in both. But on the whole it was a seriously unbalanced selection of material. It ignored their very best, classic material from the pinnacle of their career almost completely. Considering this may very well be their last visit to these shores, that must be a shame.

It was a great gig nonetheless, but  even so - the setlist at my very first Rush gig, when the band had only four studio albums to pick material from (albeit augmented by a pre-release tune from the next album) was a lot stronger than the setlist at my last Rush gig, with no less than nineteen albums to choose from. Got to be something wrong there.
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: pdw1 on May 27, 2013, 22:21:09 pm
Quote from: TerrBerr on May 27, 2013, 21:10:27 pm
Awesome day yeaterday but i had a few pints too many. luckily i was only slightly mashed at the start of the show so i remember it all and ron and i really rocked out, standing with no complaints from folks around. epic pre and post gig meet.

My apologies to anyone who I offended or mounted or spilled beer on last night.

Not at all. Especially after the huge hug and kiss I got after the show  :) Dont tell Ron  :-X
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: zoony on May 27, 2013, 22:39:32 pm
Quote from: BaldiePete on May 27, 2013, 19:43:56 pm
Classic Rock's Dave Ling hated it.

http://www.daveling.co.uk/diary.htm


Does that prick not realise that they're touring their NEW album, and not just jumping on the lets go on the road, play an hour of old songs and make a fortune bandwagon?!
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: zoony on May 27, 2013, 22:43:23 pm
Quote from: Nick Sims on May 27, 2013, 17:32:04 pm
I don't recall being near you Zooners...


Lol. It was a nice and pleasant surprise to see you yesterday Simmers.
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: zoony on May 27, 2013, 22:44:15 pm
Quote from: ophidianman on May 27, 2013, 21:07:54 pm

Ahem. That slaphead was me.......Recognised you (easily) from your pics on here  :).


Always glad to speak to fellow TNMSers mate  ;).
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: captainkurtz on May 27, 2013, 22:47:02 pm
I said to fuzzy that the setlist could consist of anything from 1975-1989 and I'd have no complaints.

I love this setlist, but it's definitely an unusual one.
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on May 27, 2013, 22:48:03 pm
Quote from: zoony on May 27, 2013, 22:39:32 pm
Does that prick not realise that they're touring their NEW album, and not just jumping on the lets go on the road, play an hour of old songs and make a fortune bandwagon?!

No Zooners. They've jumped on the let's go out on the road and make a fortune by playing most of our mediocre new album and milking the goodwill of all the old folk who made us what we are by buying the good old stuff bandwagon ;)
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: Thailand Express on May 27, 2013, 22:49:02 pm
Quote from: Slim on May 27, 2013, 21:34:36 pm
I'm not stuck in the '70s, but I do think the old bugger has a point.

on the whole it was a seriously unbalanced selection of material. It ignored their very best, classic material from the pinnacle of their career almost completely. Considering this may very well be their last visit to these shores, that must be a shame.


I've noticed a pattern over the past 3 tours (and knowing Rush it's probably intentional), we got most of Permanent Waves, then all of Moving Pictures and now a whole load from the succeeding 80's albums. Hopefully the next tour will be more retrospective (I think in response to this one it will have to be).

Also worth considering Neil's opinion that the band "started" in 1981. Which goes against the views of most fans and, I suspect, his bandmates...
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: Slim on May 27, 2013, 22:54:51 pm
Quote from: zoony on May 27, 2013, 22:39:32 pm
Does that prick not realise that they're touring their NEW album, and not just jumping on the lets go on the road, play an hour of old songs and make a fortune bandwagon?!


That wasn't actually his complaint, Rob.
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: RYE RUSH on May 27, 2013, 23:05:32 pm
I love the eighties recordings and really enjoyed these concerts, that aside i think Slim has a point, time is running out and it would be a shame if they never looked back at some of the classics that put them where they are today, CA is without doubt the strongest recording for 30 years and is superb live, but give me old product over production any day.
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: zoony on May 28, 2013, 00:08:03 am
Perhaps the reason they don't play a lot of the earlier stuff now is that Geddy just can't hit those notes anymore?
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: Thailand Express on May 28, 2013, 00:32:02 am
Quote from: zoony on May 28, 2013, 00:08:03 am
Perhaps the reason they don't play a lot of the earlier stuff now is that Geddy just can't hit those notes anymore?


Certainly the case with Hemispheres as he said himself.  Also I believe they rehearsed AFTK for one of the recent tours but again it was just too high....
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on May 28, 2013, 00:52:02 am
A Blogger's review of the LG Arena.
They didn't like the strings. Heck, even I enjoyed the strings! Better the real thing than bloody samples!

http://malignantnarcissism.blogspot.co.uk/2013/05/rush-lg-arena-birmingham-nec-26th-may.html
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: Matt2112 on May 28, 2013, 01:28:13 am
Quote from: BaldiePete on May 27, 2013, 19:43:56 pm
Classic Rock's Dave Ling hated it.


Diddums. 

There'll be winners and losers in the set-list lottery.

Back to his cave with him.
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: Pudders on May 28, 2013, 02:32:40 am
Some quite harsh words against Dave from a few peeps on here - not deserved really. I think most people know he's a good mate of mine so maybe I shouldn't get involved but I don't think his thoughts/opinions (because that's all they are) are really that much to get upset about? I spoke to him straight after the gig and he said pretty much what he has written above but he was, more than anything plain disappointed. Ultimately it's a criticism of the set list, not playing ability, presentation, etc - that's clear from his comments.
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: dannyc on May 28, 2013, 09:19:49 am
Quote from: zoony on May 28, 2013, 00:08:03 am
Perhaps the reason they don't play a lot of the earlier stuff now is that Geddy just can't hit those notes anymore?


I always thought it was more a case of they simply dont like anything themselves  pre 2112 anymore.. Pity - I would kill to hear Lakeside Park live but its gonna sound vocally very different unless Geddy puts every line on a pedal activated sample a la "Wish them Well"..

Fortunately for me I love the 80s stuff (its where I started with them) and the new album so the gigs were perfect for me..

I do wish they would ditch the silly pyrotechnics and floating light rigs its all getting a bit Lame (the monitors forming Angel wings and floating up and down like a some broken elevator was toe curling).. Think its time they got someone with new ideas to light the shows as they seem to be stuck for ideas. Its also a pity they dont re light for Europe for the first half -- guys its dark inside so you can use more than just washes..
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: captainkurtz on May 28, 2013, 09:23:06 am
Agree with your last paragraph entirely.

Also think there's zero chance of them using anyone other than Howard.
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: Thailand Express on May 28, 2013, 10:47:03 am
From interviews I've read it seems they're treating the first set like a support slot.  Might explain why the light show is more understated...
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: Slim on May 28, 2013, 10:48:45 am
Quote from: Pudders on May 28, 2013, 02:32:40 am
Some quite harsh words against Dave from a few peeps on here - not deserved really. I think most people know he's a good mate of mine so maybe I shouldn't get involved but I don't think his thoughts/opinions (because that's all they are) are really that much to get upset about? I spoke to him straight after the gig and he said pretty much what he has written above but he was, more than anything plain disappointed. Ultimately it's a criticism of the set list, not playing ability, presentation, etc - that's clear from his comments.


He has as much right to express his views as anyone, whether positive or negative. Certainly the band will have disappointed a lot of fans with this setlist, and when you think about what the tickets cost, that's a real pity I'm afraid. Ultimately the key point about the set is that the band's definitive, signature material from the peak of their career - the material that sold all those tickets, to be frank - was overlooked.
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: Thailand Express on May 28, 2013, 10:58:06 am
Quote from: Slim on May 28, 2013, 10:48:45 am
the material that sold all those tickets, to be frank - was overlooked.


I can see that point but looking at it from another perspective it takes a lot of guts for an established artist to challenge their audience like that. I can't think of many arena shows I've seen where that's happened. Maybe Dylan or Neil Young? More power to them I say...
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: zoony on May 28, 2013, 11:02:22 am
Quote from: Pudders on May 28, 2013, 02:32:40 am
Some quite harsh words against Dave from a few peeps on here - not deserved really. I think most people know he's a good mate of mine so maybe I shouldn't get involved but I don't think his thoughts/opinions (because that's all they are) are really that much to get upset about? I spoke to him straight after the gig and he said pretty much what he has written above but he was, more than anything plain disappointed. Ultimately it's a criticism of the set list, not playing ability, presentation, etc - that's clear from his comments.


Point taken mate. Perhaps I was a bit harsh, and like Slim says, we're all entitled to an opinion, and not everyone is going to agree with it. I was wrong to call him a prick, and apologise for that.
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: Slim on May 28, 2013, 11:13:45 am
Quote from: Thailand Express on May 28, 2013, 10:58:06 am
I can see that point but looking at it from another perspective it takes a lot of guts for an established artist to challenge their audience like that.


Well, I suppose some of those attending might have come along in order to admire the band's courage.
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: Thailand Express on May 28, 2013, 11:20:57 am
Quote from: Slim on May 28, 2013, 11:13:45 am
Well, I suppose some of those attending might have come along in order to admire the band's courage.


It's certainly one reason why I'd pay 60 odd quid to see Rush rather than say, AC/DC doing virtually the same show they've done for 30 years...
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: Pudders on May 28, 2013, 12:13:26 pm
Quote from: zoony on May 28, 2013, 11:02:22 am
Point taken mate. Perhaps I was a bit harsh, and like Slim says, we're all entitled to an opinion, and not everyone is going to agree with it. I was wrong to call him a prick, and apologise for that.


No worries Rob :)
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on May 28, 2013, 12:17:33 pm
Quote from: Pudders on May 28, 2013, 02:32:40 am
Some quite harsh words against Dave from a few peeps on here - not deserved really. I think most people know he's a good mate of mine so maybe I shouldn't get involved but I don't think his thoughts/opinions (because that's all they are) are really that much to get upset about? I spoke to him straight after the gig and he said pretty much what he has written above but he was, more than anything plain disappointed. Ultimately it's a criticism of the set list, not playing ability, presentation, etc - that's clear from his comments.

The guy has his own opinion and his right to have it.
As it more or less chimes in with what I think, then his opinion has become fact :)

Curmudgeon that I am though, I did enjoy it more than DL did.

For a band that may not have much time left in them, it is irksome that they ignore so much of the material that made them. A more balanced show would have been the CA stuff, half an hour of 80s Rush and an hour of 70s Rush - even if Geddy had to sing it Tom Waits style.
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: Thailand Express on May 28, 2013, 12:36:28 pm
Tom Waits singing CTTH, would have to be heard to be b'lieved....
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: FLITCH on May 28, 2013, 19:28:11 pm
I think their back catalogue is now so huge that fans debate for bloody months over the rights and wrongs over the setlist. Ultimately just go to enjoy and I think you will.
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: Exiled Yorkie on May 28, 2013, 22:17:01 pm
It was an an enjoyable show but frankly its the only tour in a long time where 1 show on the tour is enough for me and maybe thats the way it should be.
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: Thailand Express on May 28, 2013, 22:59:28 pm
My mate's updating me from Sheffield. Sounds rocking 8)
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: Matt2112 on May 29, 2013, 00:51:17 am
Just home from south of West Yorkshire. 

Well, from block B, row 11, that performance was an absolute BELTER.

Very good way to end my UK tour experience.  Fabulous stuff.  :)
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: IanTheHolte on May 29, 2013, 01:04:50 am
Quote from: zoony on May 27, 2013, 17:25:05 pm
And I'd just like to say a big thank you to my companion, Iantheholte. We always seem to have a bit of drama, or a Doh! moment or two when we go to RUSH concerts, but we also always have a good laugh, and a great time  8).
good laughs as always rob, but just so everyone knows the defining memory was  you actually leaving a plate of food.....only kidding mate but as always the dramas continue 20+ yrs on from going to shows together,those memories are part of our Rush experience and though you are a bigger tnms user than me its always a pleasure to accompany you to meet so many great people.....I' ll have u all crying in a minute....!!!!!!!  No I mean it   you are all "bostin" folks.....   
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: Ben on May 29, 2013, 01:09:48 am
What a great show, from row 24 I thought it would feel too far back but you got the full majesty of the lights etc with very good sound....what of the music. Started well but faded after the first 3, I was disappointed with GD which is a favorite but I didn't find worked live and after that the rest of the first half bar TAK, which seemed out of place, did not work for me.
The second half however proved a belter, the CA songs worked great live, though I dislike Caravan , the run fom CA to The Garden was great except for 7 Cities.

Atmosphere was very positive especially for the new stuff and it was good to glance over and see Fred, ARH,TRon and others having a 'love in' Alex's side, though the scarf waving made it look as though some Bay City Roller accolytes had stumbled in by mistake.
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: Summerland on May 29, 2013, 01:25:27 am
sorry to miss you Ben. I bloody loved it.....blimey, there's a turn up for the books
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: Slim on May 29, 2013, 01:39:08 am
Quote from: Thailand Express on May 28, 2013, 22:59:28 pm
My mate's updating me from Sheffield. Sounds rocking 8)


It did indeed rock.
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on May 29, 2013, 01:51:36 am
Quote from: Matt2112 on May 29, 2013, 00:51:17 am
Just home from south of West Yorkshire. 

Well, from block B, row 11, that performance was an absolute BELTER.

Very good way to end my UK tour experience.  Fabulous stuff.  :)

For NuRush, that was well sound!
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: Thailand Express on May 29, 2013, 01:57:31 am
So is that 2 tours running Sheffield's been the best night?
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on May 29, 2013, 02:05:33 am
Sheff has been the best so far.
Vile place, great place to see Rush!
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: DaveC on May 29, 2013, 02:14:47 am
Just back to North East from Sheffield. Thought that the sound (row 8 centre block) was awful for 1st set. The bass drum was overwhelming. The second set was a belter. The new stuff sounded great - the sound was much improved in 2nd set and the strings gave the show a new dimension. Thought that Geddy's voice was really strong too. A great night out with Alex (my son). More thoughts tomorrow............... 
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: captainkurtz on May 29, 2013, 02:20:39 am
5th row centre - sound was great.

Enthusiastic crowd and ties with London, for me.

Got back home in less than 2 hours as well, bonus.
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: döm on May 29, 2013, 02:26:50 am
Quote from: Nick Sims on May 29, 2013, 02:05:33 am
Sheff has been the best so far.
Vile place, great place to see Rush!


Spent some time in Sheffield city centre.  Being diplomatic, I must  have missed all the good bits.Having said that the kelham island and fire and police museums were fun.

Row 2 dead in front of Geddy was amazing though. A few niggles (no Middletown but we got Red sector A).  I loved all the eighties stuff in the first half and I even enjoyed most of the CA material.  Came across really well live and I thought the string ensemble was a fantastic addition.

Manhatten Project had never been a favourite of mine but I thought it was stunning. Possibly the highlight of the entire show for me.
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: JonL on May 29, 2013, 02:36:49 am
Just got in, great show, what a set list, got some great pics too. I think I was surrounded by TNMSers, but didn't want to ask in case they weren't and thought I was a mentalist.
To round things off, I was pulled for speeding less than a mile from home, but nice Mr Policeman let me off.
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: captainkurtz on May 29, 2013, 02:39:16 am
Quote from: JonL on May 29, 2013, 02:36:49 am
I was pulled off for speeding less than a mile from home, but nice Mr Policeman let me off.


:o


:D
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: JonL on May 29, 2013, 07:27:00 am
Quote from: captainkurtz on May 29, 2013, 02:39:16 am
:o


:D

Pulled up, not off.
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: JonL on May 29, 2013, 07:29:03 am
I did say he was a nice policeman.
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: Spirit of Rich on May 29, 2013, 09:54:07 am
Sheffield. Well I never, didn't see that coming.

Best show of the tour for me, absolutely blinding. Sound, atmosphere, setlist. Yes.

Although my opinion may be coloured by finally catching a T shirt after 32 shows  ;D

I love them lads.
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: Dave Brenchley on May 29, 2013, 10:28:38 am
Yep, the show of the tour for me too - good sound, great crowd (quality not quantity obviously..) and the band seemed really up for it. That was my last of four this time and for some reason during The Wreckers I had this overwhelming feeling that it was the last Rush show I'll see, and got stupidly teary eyed and emotional about it...

In the cold light of day I'm pretty sure they'll be more... Bizarre.
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: JonL on May 29, 2013, 10:36:12 am
Quote from: Dave Brenchley on May 29, 2013, 10:28:38 am
Yep, the show of the tour for me too - good sound, great crowd (quality not quantity obviously..) and the band seemed really up for it. That was my last of four this time and for some reason during The Wreckers I had this overwhelming feeling that it was the last Rush show I'll see, and got stupidly teary eyed and emotional about it...

In the cold light of day I'm pretty sure they'll be more... Bizarre.


I  reckon the festival in Sweden is them testing the water for future European visits.
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: TerrBerr on May 29, 2013, 10:43:07 am
Quote from: Dave Brenchley on May 29, 2013, 10:28:38 am
Yep, the show of the tour for me too - good sound, great crowd (quality not quantity obviously..) and the band seemed really up for it. That was my last of four this time and for some reason during The Wreckers I had this overwhelming feeling that it was the last Rush show I'll see, and got stupidly teary eyed and emotional about it...

In the cold light of day I'm pretty sure they'll be more... Bizarre.


The Wreckers really got me too last night. The storm sequence with the lighting doing a rain effect and Neil pounding the shit out of the drums re relating the violence and thunder of the surf. I got Neil goosebumps which doesn't usually happen even though I'm in awe of his ability.
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: JonL on May 29, 2013, 10:55:43 am
Quote from: TerrBerr on May 29, 2013, 10:43:07 am
The Wreckers really got me too last night. The storm sequence with the lighting doing a rain effect and Neil pounding the shit out of the drums re relating the violence and thunder of the surf. I got Neil goosebumps which doesn't usually happen even though I'm in awe of his ability.


It's my favourite song from CA and it was stunning last night.
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: Slim on May 29, 2013, 11:18:50 am
Having decided that my UK tour aspirations had already been fulfilled by Manchester and sold my Sheffield ticket on Friday, I changed my mind on Sunday when another ticket came up, so I effectively catapulted myself six rows further forward into the fourth row and a little more toward the centre for this show; pretty much right in front of the bass playing half of the rhythm section.

Lucky, really. Would have preferred the other side of the stage, but you can't have everything.

It was indeed, questions about the overall setlist aside, a stonking gig. Particular happy to have had both the setlist variations, and preferred the selection of material from last night - brilliant to have Manhattan Project and The Body Electric especially.  I thought TSOR was particularly blistering.

I actually wonder if Geddy should bother singing 2112, given the vocal detour he has to take these days. Perhaps they should knock up an instrumental medley of old tunes, like the R30 overture.

I still think they overdo the new album tunes a bit. I enjoy all of them apart from Headlong Flight but four or five would be enough.

Nice to run into an assortment of the usual suspects - great to see you all although I missed quite a few. See some of you at a Bravs gig before too long.
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: zoony on May 29, 2013, 11:39:54 am
Some great reviews and comments folks, keep them coming  :).
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: Bez on May 29, 2013, 12:09:16 pm
Quote from: JonL on May 29, 2013, 02:36:49 am
I think I was surrounded by TNMSers, but didn't want to ask in case they weren't and thought I was a mentalist.


You really should have asked them Jon....98% of TNMSers I've met are sound people....if they weren't TNMSers and they thought you were indeed a "mentalist" it would only have been for a few hours and you would never have seen them again...
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on May 29, 2013, 12:28:19 pm
Can't really add anything to what others have said. I enjoyed Brum, but Sheffield was in a different league, just shows how a great performance can enhance even the most mediocre of material. It was almost worth the money. I thought Ged was in as good voice as he could be at this stage in his career.
Should that be the last time I see Rush over here I won't have any regrets.
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: Matt2112 on May 29, 2013, 12:42:42 pm
The Wreckers has been a bit of a revelation overall for me live.  But, got to say, The Anarchist and Carnies were stupendously good at Sheffield last night.  A real high point of the mere three shows I attended.

I thought they hit the ground running and the performance on a technical level was pretty much as good as it gets.  Surprisingly, I thought The Body Electric and Territories weren't quite on the (big) money, but such was the standard of the rest of the show this was entirely forgivable.

The only noticeable duffers I remember were very rare, minor, piffling and fleeting: Big Al momentarily forgetting to switch from his piezo for the chorus of The Garden, Geddy mis-keying the first note of the Tom Sawyer synth break, Al botching a bar or so of YYZ only because he was pissing about on and around the string ensemble's platform...it only proves that they're fallible. :)

Of course, the whole experience was enriched as ever by bumping into a few of the usual suspects.  Even the Doyen of Derbyshire and that offensive t-shirt.  :P

Just want to especially thank Hass for the excellent ticket, which was close enough to see the beads of sweat but far back enough to enjoy the whole spectacle.

Plus I had a straight-on, unobstructed view of the very lovely flame-haired cellist.  ;)
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: zoony on May 29, 2013, 12:43:36 pm
Quote from: Nick Sims on May 29, 2013, 12:28:19 pm
Can't really add anything to what others have said. I enjoyed Brum, but Sheffield was in a different league, just shows how a great performance can enhance even the most mediocre of material. It was almost worth the money. I thought Ged was in as good voice as he could be at this stage in his career.
Should that be the last time I see Rush over here I won't have any regrets.


I think the mods ought to frame this post and keep it for posterity - SIMMERS IN POSITIVE RUSH OUTBURST!!!  :P ;)
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on May 29, 2013, 12:58:28 pm
Quote from: zoony on May 29, 2013, 12:43:36 pm
I think the mods ought to frame this post and keep it for posterity - SIMMERS IN POSITIVE RUSH OUTBURST!!!  :P ;)

I will always give credit, where credit is due. I can only say it as I see it.
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: zoony on May 29, 2013, 13:39:27 pm
Quote from: Nick Sims on May 29, 2013, 12:58:28 pm
I will always give credit, where credit is due. I can only say it as I see it.


Fair play Simmers. Oh, me and Ian loved your jacket at Birmingham mate  :).
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: Slim on May 29, 2013, 14:23:48 pm
As I walked down the steps to the car park, I heard someone say..

"no Earthshine".

What?
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: Ben on May 29, 2013, 14:53:55 pm
Quote from: Summerland on May 29, 2013, 01:25:27 am
sorry to miss you Ben. I bloody loved it.....blimey, there's a turn up for the books

Saw you in the distance chatting to Rich and ran into a positively ebulliant Simmsy exiting the gents and following Slim in a hurry soon afterwards. We'll catch up at the Bravs no doubt. Good to see that Rush have decided to avoid the tunes the Bravs perform so well...thats respect for you :)
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: Thailand Express on May 29, 2013, 14:59:23 pm
Quote from: Slim on May 29, 2013, 14:23:48 pm
As I walked down the steps to the car park, I heard someone say..

"no Earthshine".

What?


They shouldn't worry, if the trend continues the next tour setlist will be made up from Counterparts, Test for Echo and Vapour Trails songs....
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: Zed on May 29, 2013, 15:02:14 pm
I agree with slim, there's too much of the new stuff. Thoought geddys Mic was off for the beginning of body electric.
Great show. Thought red sector was the highlight.
Managed to worm myself from tier 2 to row 9 at the front after the interval.
Nice to see tnmsers
Roll on Netherlands..

Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: Slim on May 29, 2013, 15:15:08 pm
Quote from: Thailand Express on May 29, 2013, 14:59:23 pm
They shouldn't worry, if the trend continues the next tour setlist will be made up from Counterparts, Test for Echo and Vapour Trails songs....


:D

I did have that thought ..

Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: Stephen on May 29, 2013, 15:34:33 pm
Very enjoyable gig at Sheffield, hadn't thought of going 'til last week, which added to the enjoyment.  Good to meet a few TNMSers and put names to faces - particularly DigitalMatt - a real gent.  Enjoyed the sets, though pity to miss Middletown Dreams again.

By the way, if you're reading this and you're the bloke who gave a very loud, long and pi**ed rendition of Red Barchetta outside the 'Noose and Gibbet', don't give up the day job.

Two Rush gigs sandwiching 'Fish'at Milton Keynes - a memorable Bank Holiday long week-end.

Stephen
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: Neilyyz on May 29, 2013, 15:44:57 pm
Agree with all the positive comments on here twas a cracking show last night. Last time I was in Sheffield on the TM Tour I had my photo taken with Howard so I took him the photo last night and signed it for him. He saw the funny side and placed it on his lighting desk.

The night was made extra special for me as I was walking out. My seat was 2nd row Geddy's side and I noticed a plectrum shaped object on the ground, between the 2nd and 3rd rows of the centre section. Picked it up and lo and behold that is exactly what it was, a genuine Alex Lifeson Clockwork Angels plec touched by greatness now back in Northumberland about to be framed. I can remember him throwing it into the crowd about where I found it but it must have got lost in the grabbing hands, it is black after all.

Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: bubbles on May 29, 2013, 16:00:27 pm
Sheffield last night. Thought Analog Kid was spot on and a personal highlight for me. Would also have preferred to  hear Midd. Dreams, some of the others Big Money and Grand Designs not really favourites of mine, but we're all different. Thought the CA stuff was excellent definitely enhanced by the string section.

Just one complaint (not the show). Couldn't get near front in the initial scramble, so chose seats for me and my son on the side, front row at the bottom of the stairs, we're not midgets but not the tallest either so these gave an excellent view. Midway through The Garden some pleasant chap, absolutely legless, decided to come to the bottom of the stairs and stand directly in front of my son. I politely pointed out he was stopping him from seeing only to be met with an outburst of swearing and this dickhead getting right in my face saying "you want to listen to these lyrics YOU C&NT" ! Charming, He was then trying to pick a fight with my son.  I chose to just ignore him . I am easy going and placid and don't want to miss the rest of the gig by being thrown out (soft as shite?) but someone of a more aggressive nature would have knocked the dickhead out. Spoilt it for a while for me and had one eye on this lad thinking he was going to kick off. (Maybe I should have just "wished him well"?)

If he is by any chance reading this (southern accent, mid forties) I hope he is proud of himself.

Rant over, just had to get it off my chest.
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: Matt2112 on May 29, 2013, 16:57:09 pm
Quote from: bubbles on May 29, 2013, 16:00:27 pmMidway through The Garden some pleasant chap, absolutely legless, decided to come to the bottom of the stairs and stand directly in front of my son. I politely pointed out he was stopping him from seeing only to be met with an outburst of swearing and this dickhead getting right in my face saying "you want to listen to these lyrics YOU C&NT" !


Sorry to hear about this idiot; unfortunately they get everywhere.  I cannot abide knobs who can't handle their ale.

Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: The Letter R on May 29, 2013, 19:34:04 pm
Another great show in Sheffield last night and I even managed to get decent pictures too. Great seat 6 rows back in front of Geddy - only complaint was Mr Lifeson didn't come over our side that often...
Headed back home this afternoon after 3 shows and the memories of meeting friends old and new from the site - have to say everyone I met was fantastic. Particular tip of the hat to Muppet and Blastzone - it was a pleasure hanging out with you guys for 2 days in Sheffield, some great memories, and to Neph and Dods who we also shared beers with over the 2 nights. To everyone else thanks for making this much more than "just the shows" and turning it into a great experience. Roll on the next tour.
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: franksidebottom on May 29, 2013, 19:37:34 pm
I went to Brum and Sheffield, one less gig than the last two tours. All I can say is that these were possibly the best gigs I have seen them perform since that magical day on 23rd April 1988 when I first saw them on HYF Tour at NEC, a gig which in my view was only ever surpassed by the eight man Yes in the round on 25th June 1991 at the same venue.

I had largely avoided setlist spoilers, but by the time Geddy introduced " a song from Signals" my instant reaction was "it couldn't be The Analog Kind could it?". But bugger me it was and I'll admit at 46 years old I screamed like a little girl.

I got into Rush in late 1983 when a school pal and I did an LP swap. I lent him The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway and he lent me 2112. The former did nothing for him but I liked 2112 enough to want to listen to other Rush material. And of course then that meant 80s Rush. And I have considered Permanent Waves to Presto as their golden period ever since. But within that period Signals to Hold Your Fire was in my view the absolute pinnacle. So by the time The Analog Kid had finished every one of the first seven songs was not only from my favourite period but also included songs rarely played live.

And that folks is bloody overlooked with this band. They never get enough credit for the fact that the setlist constantly evolves from tour to tour. Did anyone appreciate that, by the time Red Sector A concluded, out of the 21 songs played in the set at that point only 3 had survived from The Time Machine Tour? How many bands of their dotage trot out the same old set tour after tour and fleece the faithful for the privilege? I love Genesis but christ almighty did the standard oldies always have to be In The Cage and Afterglow tour after tour? Yes they charge a lot but at pushing 60 they play 2hrs 40 mins of tricky stuff, which is constantly changing. They cannot be overpraised enough for that in my book chaps.

Anyway, so many highlights looking back. New material tremendously exciting by and large (sorry don't get Headlong Flight but hey). Strings enhanced a lot of material. Kept the original 1986 Manhattan Project back film. Even enjoyed a video for a change - Where's My Thing - featuring people looking for things, not hilarious but neat. Agree that Sheff was the better of the two (but oh dear what a turn out), just for once the sound at the Sheff Arena was bang on, huge energy from the band, even Far Cry sizzled. And just the most amazing setlist. Sorry 70s fans, but the 80s material is simply better, in structure, dynamics, melody, performance, whatever standard you care to apply.

Only one moan - I have a horrible feeling we won't see them again, but if we do please bring in a fourth member for live performances. There's no escaping the fact that a lot of cheating was going on, but there really needn't be. A guy like Jon Carin, or Billy Sherwood, would be capable of helping out with the troika of guitar, keys and vocals and might also just alter the dynamics of songs to give them an additional freshness. Seeing how the strings enhanced stuff why not take the next logical step and do this?

But overall, I just loved this show. And I love this band. Yup kinda gay I know but who cares....                 
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: Slim on May 29, 2013, 20:08:46 pm
Quote from: franksidebottom on May 29, 2013, 19:37:34 pmKept the original 1986 Manhattan Project back film.


I was pleased to see that, but I did notice that the footage of the German Army ceremonially goosestepping past the Reichstag was replaced with live shots of the band.

QuoteOnly one moan - I have a horrible feeling we won't see them again, but if we do please bring in a fourth member for live performances. There's no escaping the fact that a lot of cheating was going on, but there really needn't be. A guy like Jon Carin, or Billy Sherwood, would be capable of helping out with the troika of guitar, keys and vocals and might also just alter the dynamics of songs to give them an additional freshness. Seeing how the strings enhanced stuff why not take the next logical step and do this?


Agreed. I would love to see Rush perform genuine live music again.
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: ianb on May 29, 2013, 20:26:12 pm
Great night at Sheffield Motorpoint Arena for Rush yesterday. A bit of a first for me in that its the first time I've ever sat down through a whole Rush show and (shock horror) been completely sober. Very weird experience indeed! Great set list and a total departure from the 'safe ground' old school crowd pleasers in the song choices. The sound quality in our seats was not the best but we were hard to the side of Alex so probably just our position judging from everyone else's comments! Heard a few minor clammers here and there and the band seemed to drift out of sync with the samples during part of Force Ten but that for me is what I love about Rush live... proof positive that the guys are still hanging on by the skin of their teeth more often than not in order to pull all those awesome songs off and are working hard at it. I still wish they had come to Newcastle of course! Enjoy the last night of the UK leg of the tour all those lucky enough to be attending and make sure you leave the boys wanting to come back again which I'm sure will be no problem for The Glasgow Chorus! Great to bump into Gordo, Phil, Bill, Micky, Mike Sword, Woody, Richard2112, ARH and a few others who knew me but not entirely sure who was who but good to chat all the same!
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on May 29, 2013, 21:19:13 pm
Quote from: franksidebottom on May 29, 2013, 19:37:34 pm
And of course then that meant 80s Rush. And I have considered Permanent Waves to Presto as their golden period ever since.

Don't want to be pedantic, but Pew is 70s Rush.

Quotebut if we do please bring in a fourth member for live performances. There's no escaping the fact that a lot of cheating was going on, but there really needn't be. A guy like Jon Carin, or Billy Sherwood, would be capable of helping out with the troika of guitar, keys and vocals and might also just alter the dynamics of songs to give them an additional freshness. Seeing how the strings enhanced stuff why not take the next logical step and do this?

This I whole heartedly agree with. Been a bugbear of mine for years.
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: Thailand Express on May 29, 2013, 21:34:38 pm
Quote from: Slim on May 29, 2013, 20:08:46 pm
I did notice that the footage of the German Army ceremonially goosestepping past the Reichstag was replaced with live shots of the band.


Possibly a sensible edit with the continental European gigs in mind....
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: Summerland on May 29, 2013, 22:31:52 pm
Well, well, well.

Can't say I was expecting that a week ago. so far removed from the TM tour for me. Lively, vivid, bouncy, fun, no huge momentum-killers.

Can't really believe how much I enjoyed the new stuff live. Lots of drive and energy and yes, it rocked.

Would have preferred a shake-up in the encore, but that's niggly. I'd agree about a 4th member, support live music, after all.

Lovely to see so many friendly faces over the 2 days.
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: NeilP on May 30, 2013, 01:16:18 am
Sheffield was a great gig, crowd on the floor were up for it and the sound was excellent in the second set. I always think you pick up on the vibe and reactions of those around you and as I was next to Lynda and Fuzzyon the 6th row Geddy's side - it was terrific!!
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: Blastzone on May 30, 2013, 03:03:28 am
Quote from: The Letter R on May 29, 2013, 19:34:04 pm
Another great show in Sheffield last night and I even managed to get decent pictures too. Great seat 6 rows back in front of Geddy - only complaint was Mr Lifeson didn't come over our side that often...
Headed back home this afternoon after 3 shows and the memories of meeting friends old and new from the site - have to say everyone I met was fantastic. Particular tip of the hat to Muppet and Blastzone - it was a pleasure hanging out with you guys for 2 days in Sheffield, some great memories, and to Neph and Dods who we also shared beers with over the 2 nights. To everyone else thanks for making this much more than "just the shows" and turning it into a great experience. Roll on the next tour.


Great times indeed Keith, thanks for the lift and your company, a great but blurry evening had with some of  the roadcrew. Newcastle Browns share price soared i'm told  :).

Sheffield gig....absolute belter, best of the bunch so far, just ahead of Brum.
Great seats in row 5 , and the sound was incredible.

Couldn't see the lovely celloist however....

Got to meet Jean -Paul and Jude properly....lovely people

Glasgow tomorrow and my sons are attending  :), hope we blow the roof off
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: Fuzzy on May 30, 2013, 09:01:57 am
Well, all I can say is the shows are getting better and better, Glasgow is going to be a hoot for all you going  8)

For me, apart from the opening 3 songs, which I love, but have heard live enough, it is a cracking set, and as for the 2nd half, like seeing a different band almost.

And the pre/post-gig meet ups, great conversations and libations, absolutely brilliant - and we have another to come!
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: NeilP on May 30, 2013, 09:05:27 am
See you at Schiphol Paul ;)
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: Reg on May 30, 2013, 10:38:34 am
I agree with all of the positive comments about the Sheffield gig.  Blinding.  I had just the right amount of alcohol.  Set list was brilliant, I was up for it.  Excellent light show and pyrotechnics, and a general buzz - but that was probably the beer!

And great to meet so many friends again - especially ones I haven't seen for quite a while.

Birmingham was in no way a bad gig - but Sheffield topped it big time for me anyway.  I think the Glasgow crowd are in for a right royally rocking time tonight.
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: Longshanks on May 30, 2013, 13:20:26 pm

Sorry it's late but just coming down after that fantastic Sheffield show. For reasons I won't go into I'm only attending the one show and I was blown away by the setlist and was more into the "new stuff" than I thought I would be. No complaints at all (yes, Im easily pleased!) the sound from Row 13 Alex's side was excellent throughout.

Just wish there was more time to meet fellow TNMS'rs....but to those I did manage to speak with..especially the ELM!..Gordon, Phil, Rose (it's been a while!) and Neil P it was a pleasure as always. 

Looking to make it back in October for Eucon for a proper few beers!!...See you then.
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: Nulli Secundus on May 30, 2013, 13:34:14 pm
Went to Manchester and was in the 3rd Row and loved it.

Attended Sheffield with one of my 10 year old boys (his first ever Rush concert) We were up in Block 220 (Geddy's side overlooking the front of the stage) right at the very front.

Have to agree with many of the comments on here it was absolutely fantastic. Loved the Sheffield gig far more than Manchester. Manhattan Project was amazing and as someone has already said TSOR was fantastic.

The boy loved it too. He loves Clockwork Angels so for him the 2nd set was his highlight. He buzzed for two days before the concert whilst we were waiting for the doors to open I pointed out to him that he had put his 2112 t-shirt on back to front  :)  He has not stopped bouncing about and talking about the concert since.

It was also nice to get positive comments from older fans welcoming in younger fans. We bumped into an man and his wife in Sheffield town centre on the Wednesday and they commented on how good the gig had been and how it's nice to see younger people discovering Rush.

I have not read all the comments on here but I have to say there appeared to be a lot of empty seats at Sheffield. In our block, 220, there were only seven of us sat in the entire block that looked like it could hold around 60 - 80. Admittedly I know not all blocks were that extreme and I think many people would try for closer seats but it did seem a shame considering it may well have been the best one of the UK leg.
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: Andy42g on May 30, 2013, 14:04:31 pm
Yeah- I had a fine evening at Sheffield . Great to meet Slim for the first time and have a good chat with the tory boy, and I shifted up from the (my excellent seat on the aisle Alex's side on the) floor for the second half to be with the most rocking section ie. the row which contained the Trons and the Analogues.
(Makes me think - for next time (if there is one) buy a cheap seat and wander round until you find a space somewhere really good.)
Enjoyed both sets very much but the new material was frankly fecking awesome and Headlong Flight was particularly fantastic. Strings section was a great addition and the lights, screens etc were phenomenal.
Would have liked to do more than one show but hey ho.
Nice to say hello to a few TNMS types, as ever.
Bring on Muse on Saturday.
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: Thailand Express on May 31, 2013, 01:52:01 am
Sheez that was good. I laughed, I cried, I rocked...
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: Blastzone on May 31, 2013, 02:16:54 am
Quote from: Thailand Express on May 31, 2013, 01:52:01 am
Sheez that was good. I laughed, I cried, I rocked...


Yes indeed, a belter of a gig  :)
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: Thailand Express on May 31, 2013, 09:27:19 am
A few random morning after thoughts:
Not as loud as in the past but a nice sound balance.
Despite its crap acoustics the SECC is actually a perfect size venue for them.
Would have been nice to hear Middletown but Limelight kept the momentum up brilliantly.
1st drum solo killed said momentum completely, never recovered til the break.
Why do they do the slow end to Analog Kid? It crashed an otherwise superb track.
Clockwork Angels, Anarchist, Carnies and Headlong Flight were the picks of the new stuff. The latter rocks like a bastard!
The crowd were very appreciative of the new material, the string ensemble went down very well.
What happened to the 8th string player though?
Didn't think the intro/outro films were that bad, nice burds in them anyway.
The Pass really got to me, was trying to sing along but only tears came out.
One more classic before the end might have been nice, but that's a minor complaint, a great gig.
Very stiff and sore today, I'm getting too old to rock n roll....
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: JonL on May 31, 2013, 09:59:13 am
For me, I enjoyed Glasgow more than Sheffield. I can't put my finger on why, possibly because I was further back so I could take in the whole thing. Maybe it was because I noticed more subtleties in the sound. I don't know.
Anyhoo, 2 shows seen from 2 very different points of view.
2 excellent nights.
I'm also actually looking forward to a live release, rather than just knowing there will be one and buying it.
The Anarchist is my new CA track too.
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: pdw1 on May 31, 2013, 11:13:12 am
So in Glasgow you got Limelight instead of Middletown/Body Electric? Shame they didnt stick to their guns and carry on with the obscure 80s tracks.  I would have been disappointed to miss either/both for a track even I have heard many times live.

Glad you all enjoyed the gig. It has been a great UK tour.
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: Reg on May 31, 2013, 13:01:16 pm
Quote from: pdw1 on May 31, 2013, 11:13:12 amIt has been a great UK tour.

Indeed.
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: Slim on May 31, 2013, 13:06:20 pm
Quote from: pdw1 on May 31, 2013, 11:13:12 am
So in Glasgow you got Limelight instead of Middletown/Body Electric? Shame they didnt stick to their guns and carry on with the obscure 80s tracks.  I would have been disappointed to miss either/both for a track even I have heard many times live.


Yes that was my thought as well - The Body Electric was a real joy in Sheffield and it was good to see them do Middletown Dreams again at Manchester.

I've been fortunate with my Rush tours in recent years. Front row at Newcastle and two fourth row seats this time, with one of each setlist I wanted.
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: Reg on May 31, 2013, 13:07:59 pm
I think the setlist and alternates this time around is part of Alex's desire to get as much of their catalogue recorded visually as they can.

Does that mean that next time (assuming there is a next time), we can expect Open Secrets and Second Nature?  Or are we (shudder) more likely to get Carve Away The Stone, Virtuality and Dog Years.

I'm kinda hoping for Countdown and of course, anything I haven't seen live from HYF.  Lock and Key wouild be good.

Something For Nothing would be very welcome too.
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: döm on May 31, 2013, 13:10:09 pm
Yes hearing Body Electric live was a real joy, but it would have been surpassed if they had played Middletown Dreams.  Limelight is overdone now for me at this stage and it would have been a bit of a let-down to hear that instead of either of the other 2.
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: döm on May 31, 2013, 13:13:55 pm
Quote from: Reg on May 31, 2013, 13:07:59 pm
I think the setlist and alternates this time around is part of Alex's desire to get as much of their catalogue recorded visually as they can.

Does that mean that next time (assuming there is a next time), we can expect Open Secrets and Second Nature?  Or are we (shudder) more likely to get Carve Away The Stone, Virtuality and Dog Years.

I'm kinda hoping for Countdown and of course, anything I haven't seen live from HYF.  Lock and Key wouild be good.

Something For Nothing would be very welcome too.


I suppose the fact that they seem to be touring so much these days gives them the freedom to explore their back catalogue a little more.  If they manage to keep up this level of touring (every 2 years to Europe) I imagine this will continue.  If they don't make it over for another 5 years or so, I imagine the setlist will revert a little more to a show of "classics".
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: pdw1 on May 31, 2013, 13:15:06 pm
To be honest as much as i love Middletown Dreams, Body electric was a real highlight live.
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: Rrroooaaarrr on May 31, 2013, 13:15:51 pm
I like Carve Away The Stone!
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: Reg on May 31, 2013, 13:18:39 pm
Quote from: Rrroooaaarrr on May 31, 2013, 13:15:51 pm
I like Carve Away The Stone!
I believe that makes two of you.
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: Slim on May 31, 2013, 13:18:56 pm
Quote from: Reg on May 31, 2013, 13:07:59 pm
I think the setlist and alternates this time around is part of Alex's desire to get as much of their catalogue recorded visually as they can.

Does that mean that next time (assuming there is a next time), we can expect Open Secrets and Second Nature?  Or are we (shudder) more likely to get Carve Away The Stone, Virtuality and Dog Years.


Carve Away The Stone would be nice - would happily have swapped that one for Territories or The Pass, or Grand Designs. Or Far Cry, or Red Sector A. But even better would be Test For Echo or Totem.
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: Slim on May 31, 2013, 13:21:44 pm
Quote from: Rrroooaaarrr on May 31, 2013, 13:15:51 pm
I like Carve Away The Stone!


It's a belting, sprightly little rocker with bags of energy and a lovely chorus, isn't it?
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: pdw1 on May 31, 2013, 13:23:00 pm
Quote from: Reg on May 31, 2013, 13:18:39 pm
I believe that makes two of you.

one Rrroooaaarrr is more than enough   ::)
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: Fishy on May 31, 2013, 13:25:19 pm
Quote from: Reg on May 31, 2013, 13:18:39 pm
I believe that makes two of you.


and three.. i like it...

i also like We Hold On
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: Rrroooaaarrr on May 31, 2013, 13:35:57 pm
Quote from: Slim on May 31, 2013, 13:21:44 pm
It's a belting, sprightly little rocker with bags of energy and a lovely chorus, isn't it?
It sure is. I must be one of the few that really likes T4E. Maybe because they didn't tour it over here meant a lot of people didn't give it much time. Sadly I think it's an LP that will be skipped over if there are anymore tours. Hope I'm wrong though.
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: Rrroooaaarrr on May 31, 2013, 13:37:16 pm
Quote from: pdw1 on May 31, 2013, 13:23:00 pm
one Rrroooaaarrr is more than enough   ::)
And you seemed so nice when I met you ::) :)
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: Richard_2112 on May 31, 2013, 13:38:42 pm
Quote from: Reg on May 31, 2013, 13:07:59 pmLock and Key wouild be good.

I thought with the string section that would have been a dead cert. Probably a good thing they didn't play it as it would have been damn annoying to change my pants half way through the show...
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: 3rdday on May 31, 2013, 13:44:18 pm
Quote from: Fishy on May 31, 2013, 13:25:19 pm

i also like We Hold On


So do I. It rocks along quite nicely and would come over quite well live, I think.  Carve Away The Stone would be fine too, but nothing else from T4E - I haven't played that album for years and don't feel much need to hear it again any time soon.
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: Graham Hyde on May 31, 2013, 13:45:19 pm
Quote from: NeilP on May 30, 2013, 01:16:18 am
Sheffield was a great gig, crowd on the floor were up for it and the sound was excellent in the second set. I always think you pick up on the vibe and reactions of those around you and as I was next to Lynda and Fuzzyon the 6th row Geddy's side - it was terrific!!


Shame we could have met, I was 5th row Geddy's side !
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: Slim on May 31, 2013, 14:04:47 pm
Quote from: Rrroooaaarrr on May 31, 2013, 13:35:57 pmIt sure is. I must be one of the few that really likes T4E.


It's pretty well the only Rush album between Presto and Clockwork Angels worth bothering with. It does have a couple of stinkers. But it has two bona-fide Rush classics as well, in the title track and Totem.
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: Thailand Express on May 31, 2013, 15:08:45 pm
Quote from: dom on May 31, 2013, 13:10:09 pm
Yes hearing Body Electric live was a real joy, but it would have been surpassed if they had played Middletown Dreams.  Limelight is overdone now for me at this stage and it would have been a bit of a let-down to hear that instead of either of the other 2.


In the context of last night's gig it wasn't really a let down at all.  Mind you I could watch Rush playing Limelight most days of the year :)
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: Bez on May 31, 2013, 16:22:18 pm
Quote from: Richard_2112 on May 31, 2013, 13:38:42 pm
I thought with the string section that would have been a dead cert.


"Losing it" live would have been worth the price of admission....
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: Deano on May 31, 2013, 16:51:26 pm
Agreed..."Losing It" would have been amazing. Has this ever been played live ? I think not ?
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: Reg on May 31, 2013, 17:05:48 pm
I had discussions with others about Losing It.  I was really hoping for that seeing how they had string players on stage.  Ho hum.
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: Thailand Express on May 31, 2013, 18:31:07 pm
My thinking is that "hopefully" there will be another tour and, given the success of the experiment, the string ensemble will be brought along again. So we'll probably see less Clockwork Angels and more oldies performed with the strings meaning songs like Losing It could be aired. 
We shall see....
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: döm on May 31, 2013, 18:40:37 pm
Quote from: Thailand Express on May 31, 2013, 15:08:45 pm
In the context of last night's gig it wasn't really a let down at all.  Mind you I could watch Rush playing Limelight most days of the year :)


Yeah I'm probably being too picky, absolutely nothing wrong with Limelight - just delighted that so many under-performed songs got an airing.
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: zoony on May 31, 2013, 21:09:49 pm
Good review of the O2 gig in The sun today, apart from the mention of "dodgy sound". Sounded great where I was in row j, block B.
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: Mike on June 04, 2013, 23:40:33 pm
So, a Rush tour comes and goes. All this particular individual has to show for it is a solitary concert in the city of Sheffield.

In the past this would have bothered me greatly (not so much the Sheffield bit, even though it's just Crewe on steroids). After discovering Rush in the mid 80's I've devoured their live output where time, money and work commitments have permitted, with a voracious appetite. In the past this urge to see Rush at all costs has been rewarded by the irregular, though equally fervent pilgrimage of other fans, sometimes acquaintances from the board, sometimes people predating it, and also the chance to meet new Rush fans. Sadly, I missed out on this aspect this time, much like the previous tour where I could only manage to make a brief Manchester pub appearance and say hello to people I hadn't seen since at least 2007.

Regrets and last minute parking problems at 7.45 aside, I made it in time and thought the performance was superb - one of the best I've seen, though I had concerns with the sound quality compared to my, to be fair, distant memories of the excellent sound in Sheffield on the Time Machine tour; again, the only gig I managed to attend and another where my ass was in the seat 15 minutes prior to showtime.

I found the sound this time rather muddled at the edges and Geddy's bass certainly couldn't cut through the drums and pedals on the whole. Perhaps that's partly due to the nature of the 80's material, which I loved and obviously added to the whole soundstage. I finally got to hear a whole bunch of favourites that I feared had been dumped into the disposal following their failure to sell on the reduced counter in the previous couple of decades.

I really do hope we'll get one last hurrah in Europe and that I won't be too busy to notice the announcement. It would also be rather nice if the official website we all registered with all those years ago actually bothered to tell you about the pending tour and when the tickets would go on sale.

Anyway, no gripes at all - it was a great night for me. Slightly sorry I didn't get the chance to hear the alternate set list, which would also have been right up my street, so I'm very jealous of but happy for all of you who got the whole shebang - probably on multiple occasions in multiple locations, as the actress said to the bishop.
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: Bez on June 04, 2013, 23:59:38 pm
Quote from: Mike on June 04, 2013, 23:40:33 pm

I found the sound this time rather muddled at the edges and Geddy's bass certainly couldn't cut through the drums and pedals on the whole. Perhaps that's partly due to the nature of the 80's material, which I loved and obviously added to the whole soundstage. I finally got to hear a whole bunch of favourites that I feared had been dumped into the disposal following their failure to sell on the reduced counter in the previous couple of decades.




Ged's bass sound was "restrained" at both shows I saw, Mike (London & Brum)...
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: ghostwheel on June 05, 2013, 01:02:27 am
Quote from: Slim on May 29, 2013, 14:23:48 pm
As I walked down the steps to the car park, I heard someone say..

"no Earthshine".

What?


<coughs tea through his nose>
Title: Re: UK Tour Review Thread - Setlist Spoilers in Here Please
Post by: ghostwheel on June 05, 2013, 01:11:56 am
Quote from: AlexJ on May 28, 2013, 00:44:23 am
I thought it was stonking live but, at Manchester especially, I thought they lost a lot of the 'goodwill' in the crowd and it all started to get a bit flat.


The crowd at Manchester were dead from the neck up.  And the neck down actually.  I have no objection to them touring their new album: better that than a Rolling-Stonas-a-thon.  And it's a concept album, so no objection to their playing large chunks of it: one of the joys of this album is that, for the first time for a long time, it actually HANGS TOGETHER.