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Title: Cycling - 2
Post by: Dixkot on May 11, 2013, 23:27:41 PM

Great Individual T.T win today for Britain's Alex Dowsett of Movistar, in the Giro d'Italia.  His first Grand Tour.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on May 11, 2013, 23:44:37 PM
Didn't know he was a Haemophiliac. The boy done well!
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Post by: Bez on May 12, 2013, 11:32:41 AM
Didn't know he was a Haemophiliac. The boy done well!

I didn't know that until just now....makes the prospect of falling off a bike at speed a bit more daunting...

Giro nicely set up now with Wiggins & Sky having to attack at some point if they want to win....next few days look brutal....

On a side not I'm quite enjoying the Sky highlights shows....a bit more time spent on the stages than ITV for TDF
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Post by: Bez on May 17, 2013, 09:44:55 AM
Wiggo withdraws through "illness".....really ? of just no good enough ?
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Post by: döm on May 17, 2013, 10:06:40 AM
The chest infection didn't help but I think he was off the pace even before he caught it.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Bez on May 17, 2013, 11:48:31 AM
The chest infection didn't help but I think he was off the pace even before he caught it.

He's known for sulking as well, may be a reaction to Froome retaining the top spot in the TdF team....
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Post by: Bez on May 24, 2013, 10:23:52 AM
Nibali was awesome yesterday....

Today's stage cancelled due to heavy snow....I can almost hear the sigh of relief from Cav from here... ::)
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Post by: Bez on May 25, 2013, 10:34:48 AM
Oh dear....Di Luca caught doping again....that makes 2 of the starters of the Giro now

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cycling/22652887
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Dixkot on May 25, 2013, 12:52:00 PM
Oh dear....Di Luca caught doping again....that makes 2 of the starters of the Giro now

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cycling/22652887

Vini Fantini team director Luca Scinto said: "Di Luca is an idiot. I never wanted him. He is sick and needs help."

Says it all really.  Twat.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on September 03, 2013, 11:12:58 AM
completed my first sportive ride on Sunday, the Malvern Mad Hatter, 75 miles in 4 hrs 28, at an average of 16.9mph with my brother in law so we qualified for the gold medal category

Really pleased. Couple of photos on this link:-

http://sportivephoto.thirdlight.com/viewpicture.tlx?advsearchid=1378203073&pictureid=18848995911

Have a photo on my PC as well of us with Chris Boardman, but I am buggered if I know how to attach it here

Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: NeilP on September 03, 2013, 11:27:07 AM
Nice, maybe next year the Epic then? ;)
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: pdw1 on September 03, 2013, 11:53:37 AM
From Formula 1 to cycling.
Alonso saves the Euskaltel Euskadi cycling team
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cycling/23936407
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on September 03, 2013, 12:23:24 PM
Nice, maybe next year the Epic then? ;)

We ummed and ahhd about the Epic coming up to the turn off (same price to do either) but decided against it. We had such a good day, and while Paul had done the 100 mile course before, and we both felt good enough to do the extra 25, thought that the standard would be fine for my first go
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Post by: NeilP on September 03, 2013, 17:46:32 PM
Great effort for a first attempt!

Just looked at the Malvern MH webpage via cycling weekly - what was the range for the gold medal - 30 mins or so after 4 hours?
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on September 04, 2013, 11:06:00 AM
Slowest I have seen is about 4:45, only seen one person break 4 hrs on there

They quoted the average speed as 15.5 mph to get gold, we were s smidge over 16.9mph
I thought that seemed a little low until I was fighting my way up Malvern Hill for a 2nd time and decided they may have got it about right
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: NeilP on September 04, 2013, 11:47:38 AM
hills are tough for real men
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on September 10, 2013, 14:16:50 PM
Nice video of the Malvern Mad Hatter, little bit of Boardman, and yours truly at 2 minutes 50 saying a few words

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQjgFQshUbg

Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Andy42g on September 20, 2013, 08:45:11 AM
Train to Dent and bike back to Leeds tomorrow. 70 miles or so. Lots of lurverly Dales scenery - and big hills - to be had along the way. And cake.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on September 20, 2013, 09:23:37 AM
CAKE"! we love cake (and hills)
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Post by: Andy42g on September 20, 2013, 20:04:49 PM
Bike ride is not proper without cake. It's the law.
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Post by: Andy42g on September 24, 2013, 12:36:47 PM
Got some ace cake in here:
http://www.zarinaskettlewell.co.uk/
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Post by: Andy42g on September 27, 2013, 13:41:37 PM
Two really good mountain bike night rides this week. Conditions fantastic - dry trails and excellent weather. It's been a fine summer (and autumn) for biking.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on September 27, 2013, 14:21:14 PM
Just signed up for my last sportive of the year,  a Wiggle super series on Oct 27th starting at Silverstone in Northampton. Only 83 miles the epic, with one hill of note, route described as rolling which means high pace, so should suit me nicely
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Andy42g on September 28, 2013, 19:42:44 PM
Brilliant win for Voss at the worlds road race. She is amazing - and this is the lady who's switched to Mountain biking mainly this season. Men's race tomorrow - Brad and Chris Froome. Should be fun. Well done BBC2.
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Post by: Andy42g on September 29, 2013, 15:26:06 PM
Yuck. Weather making a bit of a debacle of it today. Our boys all wimped.
But bloody hell - what an epic.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Andy42g on September 29, 2013, 16:35:46 PM
McQuaid out - Cookson in as UCI president. Should shake things up a bit.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cycling/23042927

http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2013/sep/28/uci-brian-cookson-lance-armstrong-doping
Olive branch for Lance?
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on September 30, 2013, 12:55:58 PM
none of the brits finished, not convinced what to make of that really. Do our boys now earn too much riding for Sky/quickstep etc to need to take the risk?
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Post by: Andy42g on September 30, 2013, 15:17:11 PM
none of the brits finished, not convinced what to make of that really. Do our boys now earn too much riding for Sky/quickstep etc to need to take the risk?
Was discussing this last night. They can only ride protected in a team - and they are very good at that. However, none of them are hard enough to do a one day classic if they get exposed. And Brad's shit in the wet.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on October 04, 2013, 15:19:46 PM
Think I might be packing the Planet x superbike away for winter and getting the decathlon Ironclad out, weather looks bloody awful!
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Andy42g on October 06, 2013, 22:03:24 PM
Think I might be packing the Planet x superbike away for winter and getting the decathlon Ironclad out, weather looks bloody awful!
:) Still lovely up here but was in work today pre-paying for my skiing while I should have been out on my mean machine.
But yeah - the hybrid will be un-mothballed soon for the commute.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Andy42g on October 09, 2013, 12:52:58 PM
Nite mountain biking to the fore ATM - Guisburn forest yesterday. Love night riding but blimey the, err, obstacles come at you a bit quick. Really exhilarating stuff.  Hamsterly next week.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on October 15, 2013, 09:43:34 AM
Decided I am crap at changing tyres/inner tubes

Punctured 2 new ones while getting my winter bike ready and serviced. There must be a knack, but im buggered if I know what it is
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Andy42g on October 15, 2013, 09:59:32 AM
Decided I am crap at changing tyres/inner tubes

Punctured 2 new ones while getting my winter bike ready and serviced. There must be a knack, but im buggered if I know what it is
Top Tip: Put a tiny bit of air in the tube before you put it in the tyre to get it back on. I've found this lifts it away from the rim and stops you pinch puncturing with the levers.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on October 15, 2013, 16:06:19 PM
will try.
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Post by: The Old Dog on October 15, 2013, 19:39:21 PM
Top Tip: Put a tiny bit of air in the tube before you put it in the tyre to get it back on. I've found this lifts it away from the rim and stops you pinch puncturing with the levers.

Not a big fan of levers other than taking the tyre off ,I've found that over the years fingers and thumbs do a better job, it's usually just the last inch or so of getting the wire over the rim that should require a lever and even then if the tyre is warm it should slip on without too much difficulty ..
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Fishy on October 15, 2013, 20:52:45 PM
I use spoons
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Andy42g on October 16, 2013, 08:32:34 AM
Not a big fan of levers other than taking the tyre off ,I've found that over the years fingers and thumbs do a better job, it's usually just the last inch or so of getting the wire over the rim that should require a lever and even then if the tyre is warm it should slip on without too much difficulty ..
Depends on the tyre. Usually you are right but some are very tight. Levers are fine for that last bit if you are careful. Or/and have some air in the tube.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Andy42g on October 16, 2013, 08:52:29 AM
Great evening ride at Hamsterley Forest. Stunning conditions: moonlit climbs without lights and loads of great technical descending on the trails (with lights  8) ). Amazing snack stop at the "stone circle" at the top in the moonlight: stunning forestry panorama without a breath of wind. Way late - we didn't finish riding until after 11 - and home about 2AM.  LOVE night riding.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Andy42g on October 16, 2013, 10:43:16 AM
I use spoons
If you are serious (?) these wreck rims very quickly. Metal against metal under pressure is not good.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on October 16, 2013, 10:55:48 AM
all sorted, the air trick worked nicely, and did most without levers. Conti Gatorskins are very stiff tyres though

Planet X bike away now for winter, Decathlon Aluminium warhorse back out, running surprisingly well, although it does have nice wheels. Seems massive though, obviously a different size, and the handlebars seem ludicrously high
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on October 28, 2013, 10:10:43 AM
not sure I want to ride my bike ever again after yesterday, Wiggle Circuit Breaker Sportive starting at Silverstone, 50mph winds, driving rain, 89 miles of unpleasentness. Missed the gold medal time by 10 minutes, so probably could have made it, but not sure I had much left in the tank at the end
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Andy42g on October 28, 2013, 13:27:17 PM
89 miles of unpleasentness....
:-\ Still - you did it.  :)
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on October 28, 2013, 14:03:05 PM
just....
Very very few gold medal times in the epic distance as opposed to normal, really split the men from the boys, and unfortunately I wasn't quite up to it. In all fairness Im not the ideal physique for road biking anyway, and certainly wasn't scything through the head on 50mph winds yesterday.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Andy42g on October 28, 2013, 22:35:08 PM
just....
Very very few gold medal times in the epic distance as opposed to normal, really split the men from the boys, and unfortunately I wasn't quite up to it. In all fairness Im not the ideal physique for road biking anyway, and certainly wasn't scything through the head on 50mph winds yesterday.
Have to say I'd probably have not bothered! I love my biking and am quite prepared to suffer for it - going too far too fast usually - but in really crap weather it's just unpleasant and not for me. Having said that have done some mountain biking in appalling conditions and thoroughly enjoyed it.  My expectations are obviosly rather different for the two disciplines!
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Red Star on December 03, 2013, 14:26:00 PM
Cyclists in flaunting the rules of the road shocker. As if........ ::)

http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news/latest/541428/london-taxi-drivers-film-cyclists-jumping-red-lights.html
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Andy42g on December 03, 2013, 14:49:09 PM
Cyclists in flaunting the rules of the road shocker. As if........ ::)
http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news/latest/541428/london-taxi-drivers-film-cyclists-jumping-red-lights.html
Haha: cabbies giving driving lessons.  ::)
It's real madness down there - looks a nightmare to be a cyclist or a driver.
And I'd be jumping red lights to avoid the cars if I was in some of the situations I read about on forums. 
Case in point: http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2013/dec/02/case-against-london-cyclist-dropped-crossed-red-light-safety
I think it's become a real vicious circle of blame and intolerance.
Then again going through a red light on a bike when there's nothing coming will not kill anyone (especially in these junctions in the film where there's no left turn so traffic is only coming from the right and can easily be seen...).  Yes, rules is rules but there's a whole world of difference between ambling across such a junction near the kerb on your bike and putting your boot down and racing through on amber/red in your high powered 2 ton metal box on wheels.
I see RLJ-ing cars doing just that at practically every set of lights on my commute. Such is life I guess. Junctions maybe should be policed better?
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on December 03, 2013, 15:55:50 PM
I read about this, I do feel sorry for the cab guy who did the interview and has had death threats etc
in the end over 50% of the cyclists on that given day went through a red light, and when push comes to shove, as you said Andy, rules is rules

I wonder, and I know its a bit left field, if more people are jumping lighte because they are clipped into the pedals, and getting in and out of them in slow moving trafiic isn't the best
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Andy42g on December 03, 2013, 16:28:32 PM
I read about this, I do feel sorry for the cab guy who did the interview and has had death threats etc
in the end over 50% of the cyclists on that given day went through a red light, and when push comes to shove, as you said Andy, rules is rules
Deaths threats.  :-\ FFS. The problem is that cyclists do feel like they are under siege down there - they are reducing the traffic by being ion their bikes and seem to be the ones being killed on an alarmingly regular basis - and not because they are RLJ-ing i should add.

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I wonder, and I know its a bit left field, if more people are jumping lighte because they are clipped into the pedals, and getting in and out of them in slow moving trafiic isn't the best
I get your point but if you watch it it's just general cyclists rolling on through. And also if you are used to clips then you (honestly) don't notice them at all - they make no difference to your cycling, or at least have no negative effect.

It is though a particular type of junction in the film as in nothing coming from the left, so the bikers all have a clear view of what's coming at them from the right. None of them go across and cause a car to slam on - they all have a look and then go. I somehow doubt there'd be that many at every junction with stuff coming from all sides - so this is where it's skewed against the cyclists and you get the "50% of all cyclists jump red lights" - as if they all do it at all junctions - nonsense shock headlines why cyclists get angry.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on December 03, 2013, 17:23:32 PM
Agreed. Saw an article today on facebook where the guy was asked why they had chosen the specific junction, said it was just a fluke that the one had nothing from the left.

That, I find a little tough to believe

I see on my daily ride to work more and more bikes undertaking stationary or slow traffic. Very very few drivers would ever check their left mirror before turning left. Its really dangerous
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on December 03, 2013, 20:17:20 PM
I see on my daily ride to work more and more bikes undertaking stationary or slow traffic. Very very few drivers would ever check their left mirror before turning left. Its really dangerous
I was behind a van on the motorway the other day and he had sticker on the back of his van saying "Cyclists don't come through on my inside when I'm indicating left"

Cyclists, they want rounding up with electric cattle prods and then herding off Beachy Head.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on December 03, 2013, 20:21:33 PM
The problem is that cyclists do feel like they are under siege down there - they are reducing the traffic by being ion their bikes and seem to be the ones being killed on an alarmingly regular basis - and not because they are RLJ-ing i should add.
Under siege? All they need to do is obey the rules of the road and their lot will improve considerably.
I'm a - fair weather - cyclist so I know what it's like on the roads, but I do it all by the book and get pissed off when I see cyclists jumping lights, riding on the pavement etc. etc.

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I get your point but if you watch it it's just general cyclists rolling on through.
Breaking the law then. No Excuses.

These fascist cycling apologists all want rounding up and stringing up from lamp posts.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Andy42g on December 04, 2013, 08:29:19 AM
I was behind a van on the motorway the other day and he had sticker on the back of his van saying "Cyclists don't come through on my inside when I'm indicating left"
Err - that's great.
I have said this many times: as a cyclist you should not roll up the inside of large vehicles. The trouble is, as ever, there are exception and cyclists do end up on the inside. For instance you may be in a cycle lane which ends up on the inside of a queue of traffic. Personally I don't do this, ever, but the London scenario where it's practically gridlock and given the way the drivers treat bikes (you need to read some of the forums to really get a clue about what it's like), suicidal to be anywhere else -- the only room for cyclists at some junctions seems to be in the cycle lanes. That's simply the way it is down there and hence we have a steady toll of bikers being squished by busses and lorries - the majority (not all) of which are left turning.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Andy42g on December 04, 2013, 08:38:02 AM
Under siege? All they need to do is obey the rules of the road and their lot will improve considerably.
Sorry but it absolutely won't. You need to read up a bit more on what goes on.

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I'm a - fair weather - cyclist so I know what it's like on the roads, but I do it all by the book
Good for you.

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and get pissed off when I see cyclists jumping lights, riding on the pavement etc. etc.
Ah - so you can look down from your mighty high horse and sneer. Do you see them causing accidents? Thought not. They just annoy you. Try biking in London or a busy city centre at rush hour and see how that goes.

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Breaking the law then. No Excuses.
Read the article I posted - there's that and plenty more.
And if all drivers obeyed the rules - No.1 of which is look out for other road users - then there'd be a whole lot less death and destruction. It's drivers and cars/buses/lorries that kill people out there - cyclists, for all their faults, are rarely the cause of traffic accidents.

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These fascist cycling apologists all want rounding up and stringing up from lamp posts.
And if you quitted the trolling we could have a decent conversation.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Bez on December 04, 2013, 08:50:23 AM
As I've said before, its all very well putting the blame on motorists from a moral high horse, but if I was cycling around "2 ton metal boxes" wearing nothing more than a hi-vis jacket and a helmet for protection I'd be a lot more circumspect than many cyclists are....

I saw one nearly mow down a pedestrian at pelican crossing while crashing through it on red the other day and he had the audacity to gesture madly as he rode off....cnut.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Andy42g on December 04, 2013, 09:48:35 AM
As I've said before, its all very well putting the blame on motorists from a moral high horse,
It is indeed. Because (the stats show) it's nearly always their fault.

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but if I was cycling around "2 ton metal boxes" wearing nothing more than a hi-vis jacket and a helmet for protection I'd be a lot more circumspect than many cyclists are....
And of course this is the problem - cyclists shouldn't have to be circumspect as drivers should look out for them more. (But cyclists then in turn piss off drivers by running red lights etc and so round and round it goes...)

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I saw one nearly mow down a pedestrian at pelican crossing while crashing through it on red the other day and he had the audacity to gesture madly as he rode off....cnut.
Well done on your single anecdotal observation. Your point? I saw 3 drivers run red lights this morning and 2 on mobiles. Oh, and just the one today tried to bully me into the gutter.  We could do this for ages. Carry on.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on December 04, 2013, 10:01:24 AM
Too many cars, too few roads/lanes/bike lanes, more and more cyclists

Recipe for disaster

Personally, as an avid, every day biker, I would not object at all if cyclists had to go on a safety course, and pass it as an adult. Drivers get fines and points for bad driving, I would have no objection if riders got the same treatment for things like not signalling, speeding, unsafe/unroadworthy bikes, driving without due care, not having lights on etc

Not going to solve the issue of car v bike, but so many people are now getting on a bike now, it can only help
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Andy42g on December 04, 2013, 10:20:23 AM
Too many cars, too few roads/lanes/bike lanes, more and more cyclists
Recipe for disaster
It is. Attitudes of drivers need to change though - as well as that of the more "militant" cyclists out there.

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Personally, as an avid, every day biker, I would not object at all if cyclists had to go on a safety course, and pass it as an adult. Drivers get fines and points for bad driving, I would have no objection if riders got the same treatment for things like not signalling, speeding, unsafe/unroadworthy bikes, driving without due care, not having lights on etc
All this legislation is already out there though. As a cyclist I can rightly get booked and fined for all these things. But drivers get away with all sorts as well. They cause most of the accidents and already take a test which is supposedly to make sure they are worthy of a licence to drive on the roads and obey the highway code. Given how many of them seem to decide their own set of rules and also have decided said code is out to somehow restrict their perceived rights to race round like a twat and for instance bully other, more vulnerable, road users (see the highway code for that rule) etc etc blah blah.

There's a call for bike tests and insurance. Imagine the costs and legislation for that. Who's going to pay for it? Drivers? We could double VED to fund more cyclists on the road - there's an idea  :) A tax for cyclists is pointless as it's VED and therefore zero.

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Not going to solve the issue of car v bike, but so many people are now getting on a bike now, it can only help
It's a difficult one. Attitudes need to change really. It does seem London is the main boiling pot of all this and i have to say it's generally Ok up here. Except in the middle of Bradford.  :(
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on December 04, 2013, 10:35:35 AM
Not ridden in central Birmingham, and not sure I want to

Sutton Coldfield is a small commuter town, so its not too bad, as the traffic is mostly stationary.

It does please me seeing so many more people out there though, from an environmental POV as well as for the economy, health, general lifestyle etc

Nothing like a couple of deaths a week to bring an issue to the front pages though!
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Andy42g on December 04, 2013, 11:54:24 AM
Not ridden in central Birmingham, and not sure I want to
Imagine if you had to - every day.  :-\

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Sutton Coldfield is a small commuter town, so its not too bad, as the traffic is mostly stationary.
Leeds is very busy going into town - but the in between bits (ie quite busy) seem to be the worst. You get used to it I guess.

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It does please me seeing so many more people out there though, from an environmental POV as well as for the economy, health, general lifestyle etc
Yes indeed. Cycling is ace.  :)

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Nothing like a couple of deaths a week to bring an issue to the front pages though!
Hmm - and to get fecking Boris out making more idiotic comments.  :-\
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Andy42g on December 04, 2013, 13:07:37 PM
London cycling:
http://www.theguardian.com/environment/bike-blog/2013/dec/03/london-cycling-provisions-laughable-bike-blog
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on December 04, 2013, 15:11:30 PM
Then the next thing on the agenda will be roads that are a safe surface, especially in winter, with non slip white lines.

Will be a never ending battle and question of resources. Interesting to see if there is any feasible equation/case study that shows if increased cycling has benefits that outweigh the costs
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Bez on December 04, 2013, 19:09:06 PM
Carry on.

Indeed, you carry on missing the point and end up in a gutter under a bus because you're too stubborn to see the point that while cyclists may have equal rights on the road they're vulnerable because of their size....

Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on December 04, 2013, 20:11:29 PM
Too many cars, too few roads/lanes/bike lanes, more and more cyclists
No cars = no roads.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on December 04, 2013, 20:16:03 PM
When at school I had a mate who's dad recommended that cars had extendible spears built in to them to enable the skewering of crap cyclists and some sort of LASER obliteration device to destroy all badly driven cars.
I'd go for that :)

I really am desperate to drive on the pavement to get rid of the cyclist who gives V signs just because I give him the wanker one.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Andy42g on December 05, 2013, 10:29:27 AM
Indeed, you carry on missing the point and end up in a gutter under a bus because you're too stubborn to see the point that while cyclists may have equal rights on the road they're vulnerable because of their size....
Hopefully I won't be under a bus because I cycle well and sensibly and have lights etc.  So if i do go under one it will be the drivers fault. Therefore the onus is on drivers to look out more, have more respect etc. See how this works? We can a have tit for tat "I saw a driver/cyclist do ... etc " discussion if you like, but at the end of the day it's drivers who do the vast majority of the damage on the roads.
How come cyclists have to do all the work to be on the roads when they are perfectly entitled to be there and there are laws in place supposedly protecting them as more vulnerable road users? This is what bike campaigns are about.
They should do what nearly all the continental nations do which is have a law to make the bigger vehicle responsible every time unless it can be proved otherwise. This protects cyclists and would make our lives a lot easier on the roads.
Sure, there'd be more of the simmering resentment that cyclists already experience out there (from drivers who somehow feel they own the roads), but at least drivers would always think a about cyclists knowing if they ever hit one they are liable by default.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Andy42g on December 05, 2013, 11:35:21 AM
No cars = no roads.
Nonsense.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Andy42g on December 05, 2013, 12:53:16 PM
I hope they can get something done down there - real improvements and not just panic quick political gain ones.

Dear Friends,

Incredible! In just three weeks over 35,000 of us have signed the Save our Cyclists petition and last week over one THOUSAND of us joined the mass Die In outside of Transport for London HQ, making headline news. [1]

But it’s not over yet.

Next Tuesday, we are going to get on our bikes, cycle down to City Hall, and deliver our petition to the doors of the Mayor and the Cycling Commissioner. With a huge petition, we can show them that we don’t want “panic changes”, we want real change.

We are campaigning on this because enough is enough. We know that London can be the cycling city that we want it to be and every signature is a wake up call to Boris and Gilligan. If you get your friends to join us, it shows that we are growing, and we are not going away.

When you tweet about the petition, the newspapers report it. When you chat about the campaign to your colleagues, you spread the word. When you share the petition, people sign it.

Your actions make a difference. Can you make a difference again and share the petition with your friends and family using the links above?

When you signed the petition you became part of a 35,000 strong community. We’ve flooded the media, we’ve attended public meetings, we’ve laid down on the streets of our city. We are changing the way people think about transport in London. We are gaining momentum every day. Now is the time for change. Let's make it happen.

Cycle safe,

Rhiannon
38 Degrees Member and Save Our Cyclists campaigner
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on December 05, 2013, 20:12:42 PM
Nonsense.
Well you ought to recognise that when it's spoken.

Do you really think we'd have the road network we have if we lived in a culture of velocipedes?
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on December 05, 2013, 20:17:22 PM
Hopefully I won't be under a bus because I cycle well and sensibly and have lights etc.  So if i do go under one it will be the drivers fault.
If your sense is like your grammar you'll be being sent by post like Flat Stanley.

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Therefore the onus is on drivers to look out more, have more respect etc.
No. The onus is on all road users.

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How come cyclists have to do all the work to be on the roads
They don't.

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when they are perfectly entitled to be there
If only they were. Most are on the pavements, and as a pedestrian that rightly pissed me off. As a pedestrian I have to do all the work in looking and listening for bicycles.
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They should do what nearly all the continental nations do which is have a law to make the bigger vehicle responsible every time unless it can be proved otherwise.
Innocent until proven guilty.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Andy42g on December 06, 2013, 08:19:33 AM
No. The onus is on all road users.
It is indeed. But (and I'll say this once again nice and slow like) it's drivers who do nearly all the damage.

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They don't.
::) In being safe(er) that is. But you knew that.

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If only they were. Most are on the pavements, and as a pedestrian that rightly pissed me off. As a pedestrian I have to do all the work in looking and listening for bicycles.
Most cyclists are on the pavements? Really?
But yes - I agree you should get pissed off at cyclists on pavements. Well done. I would as well. You do seem particularly afflicted by them where you are and this is unfortunate. I seem mainly afflicted by drivers on their phones and jumping red lights as well as cyclists with no lights. Such is life.

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Innocent until proven guilty.
Absolutely.Your point?
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: pdw1 on December 06, 2013, 12:10:39 PM
Could hi-tech accessories make cycling safer?
www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-25018543
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Andy42g on December 06, 2013, 14:52:46 PM
Could hi-tech accessories make cycling safer?
www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-25018543
"The Hovding helmet costs nearly 400 euros (£330)" - to save your head getting "sweaty"  ???
Hmmm. Might sell in that there London I guess.  ;)
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on December 09, 2013, 09:45:58 AM
http://www.suttoncoldfieldobserver.co.uk/Cycling-group-driven-sad-news-ride-Santa-suits/story-20266590-detail/story.html

Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: pdw1 on December 09, 2013, 10:41:11 AM
http://www.suttoncoldfieldobserver.co.uk/Cycling-group-driven-sad-news-ride-Santa-suits/story-20266590-detail/story.html
Is there a link where we can sponsor you?
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on December 09, 2013, 12:06:37 PM
unfortunately not! Not too well organised! We may have one soon though.

Thanks though
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on December 09, 2013, 23:35:37 PM
I hope someone's done a risk assessment. Don't want any beards caught in wheels, or big hairy sacks in chains.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Andy42g on December 09, 2013, 23:39:54 PM
I hope someone's done a risk assessment. Don't want any beards caught in wheels, or big hairy sacks in chains.
More a risk of fur trimmed trouser legs getting caught. Hope you used cycle clips.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on December 10, 2013, 12:14:31 PM
Duck Tape, silver.

Job done
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Andy42g on December 10, 2013, 15:46:33 PM
http://blog.evanscycles.com/uncategorized/road-bike-party-2/
Don;t try this at home kids.
Nice local bits at Ilkley Cow & Calf and Shipley Glen, and on the canal.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Andy42g on December 11, 2013, 11:31:07 AM
Chap on the A65 this morning on his bike merriily rolling through two red lights at a busy junction. And he had no lights (it was beginning to get light and it was misty). Dressed well and was carrying what looked like a violin in a case. Rolled alongside and said - as politely as I could: "Mate: you just went through two red lights and you have no lights on. Come on. It's not really that difficult is it?"
"feck off" was his reply.
We were in a wide bus lane at this point I should add - away from traffic.
"feck off why? Any idea how difficult it is to defend cycling when there's people like you on the roads?"
"feck off" Again. He was a musician of few words. Two words really.
It kind of bugs me not saying anything to these eejit types (considering the stick cyclists in general get for for the likes of him being out there) and yet I feel like it's not really my part to police them.
Ho hum. I tried I guess.  :-\
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Andrew_Haldane on December 11, 2013, 19:41:38 PM
Chap on the A65 this morning on his bike merriily rolling through two red lights at a busy junction. And he had no lights (it was beginning to get light and it was misty). Dressed well and was carrying what looked like a violin in a case. Rolled alongside and said - as politely as I could: "Mate: you just went through two red lights and you have no lights on. Come on. It's not really that difficult is it?"
"feck off" was his reply.
We were in a wide bus lane at this point I should add - away from traffic.
"feck off why? Any idea how difficult it is to defend cycling when there's people like you on the roads?"
"feck off" Again. He was a musician of few words. Two words really.
It kind of bugs me not saying anything to these eejit types (considering the stick cyclists in general get for for the likes of him being out there) and yet I feel like it's not really my part to police them.
Ho hum. I tried I guess.  :-\

Prime candidate for a spot of social darwinist karma by the sounds of it...what a prick! You did your best Andy.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on December 11, 2013, 20:16:09 PM
and yet I feel like it's not really my part to police them.

Of course it is.
Drip, drip, drip, drip and slowly they may start to realise.
But probably not...

Think I'm going to become a hermit.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: pdw1 on December 11, 2013, 20:45:46 PM
Think I'm going to become a hermit.
I thought you already were  :-\
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on December 11, 2013, 21:49:57 PM
I thought you already were  :-\
Chance would be a fine thing. The wife and child are still inhabiting my hermitage...

I'm just a bit crabby.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on December 12, 2013, 09:45:52 AM
Of course it is.
Drip, drip, drip, drip and slowly they may start to realise.
But probably not...

Think I'm going to become a hermit.

I tend to agree, easier for someone on a bike to have a word with another biker, than someone in a car, who the cyclist is more likely to react badly to

I try and have a word with cyclists if I think they are unsafe, or acting like a dick, or endangering theirs or other lives. I go mental at people with no lights after dark, that's a real bugbear for me. Pavements I am less angry about, its not ideal and would prefer the roads were used, but some roads are horrible
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Andrew_Haldane on December 12, 2013, 14:32:34 PM
I tend to agree, easier for someone on a bike to have a word with another biker, than someone in a car, who the cyclist is more likely to react badly to

I try and have a word with cyclists if I think they are unsafe, or acting like a dick, or endangering theirs or other lives. I go mental at people with no lights after dark, that's a real bugbear for me. Pavements I am less angry about, its not ideal and would prefer the roads were used, but some roads are horrible

So, what is the answer then.....should cyclists have to pay road tax, insurance, take a test, have a licence etc?
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on December 12, 2013, 15:03:48 PM
I pay road tax already, why do I need to pay it again?

I think cyclists should take a test, I also think there should be some sort of MOT on bikes, but god knows hiow you enforce it, and I think cyclists should gets stooped for antisocial driving the same way a car driver should.

I am a considerate rider, but there are many who aren't.

I do think cyclists are getting better, there are more of them, so drivers are getting more used to us being on the roads
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Bez on December 12, 2013, 15:26:20 PM
I pay road tax already, why do I need to pay it again?

I think cyclists should take a test, I also think there should be some sort of MOT on bikes, but god knows hiow you enforce it, and I think cyclists should gets stooped for antisocial driving the same way a car driver should.

I am a considerate rider, but there are many who aren't.

I do think cyclists are getting better, there are more of them, so drivers are getting more used to us being on the roads

Agreed that if you pay road tax that you should be exempt from any tax for cycling....they hardly cause as much physical damage as your average skip lorry though.

Definitely should take a test and bikes should be checked for safety. Especially lights.

I disagree that in general cyclists are getting better as road users, maybe its a regional thing. Certainly round here they ride without consideration for other road users, are often unlit at night and rarely bother with traffic lights....
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on December 12, 2013, 15:29:49 PM
I can only comment on my own geography, Sutton is a small town, so fewer cars and bikes, but the relationship is decent at the moment
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: pdw1 on December 12, 2013, 15:42:11 PM
Here in Cambridge where there are a lot of bikes and cars things work well in general but not always
http://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/News/16-year-old-cyclist-dead-after-crash-on-Milton-Road-20131212082021.htm
(that is basically on my route home from my old work).

I doubt making cyclist pay road tax, take tests or an MOT on bikes would make a blind bit of difference to selfish thoughtless cyclists just as it doesnt make a difference to selfish thoughtless drivers.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Andy42g on December 12, 2013, 17:45:13 PM
So, what is the answer then.....should cyclists have to pay road tax, insurance, take a test, have a licence etc?
Ok - again. There's no such thing as road tax. Is VED based on vehicle emissions and as cyclists are zero rated then they'd pay none.
And at the risk of repeating myself how would implementation and policing of a cycle licence scheme be paid for? It's been suggested a few times but if motorists had to pay for it (double VED for everyone?) then ... well you can see how that would go down. You going to ask every kid on a BMX to get a licence?
I actually agree - I'd be happy to have a cycle license. But then I'm a regular cyclist. I also pay VED for my car and am insured. Like a lot of regular cyclists.
The idea atm is to get people on bikes - a licensing scheme would stop that in it's tracks so you can't win either way.
And drivers have to take a test but this does not stop a good proportion of them driving like fecking dicks.

One great idea would be to ban HGVs from city centres during the day. And (as they do on the continent) make drivers responsible by default for any collisions they have with smaller road users (same goes for bikes and pedestrians). Not their fault then fine - but they have to show that. Given drivers cause the vast majority of RTAs then this should not be an issue. Works abroad anyhow and bikes get more space and respect. Then again we'd never really get respect over here - possibly too late for that. Just more resentment. Piling the responsibility for safety on the roads onto cyclists is frankly ridiculous.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Andrew_Haldane on December 12, 2013, 19:22:18 PM
Read it once already Thanks Andy  :)
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on December 12, 2013, 20:17:44 PM
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

People DON'T pay Road Tax. It was abolished years ago, it's Vehicle Excise Duty.

And as bicycles are a carriage they belong on the carriageway part of the highway and not the footway. The law is quite clear on this.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Andrew_Haldane on December 12, 2013, 22:19:11 PM
You know...stress is a killer Nick...seriously...your over acting reacting. Why do you care? And why would a cyclist pay VED rather than road tax unless she/he farted continuously?
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on December 12, 2013, 23:43:46 PM
You know...stress is a killer Nick...seriously...your over acting reacting. Why do you care? And why would a cyclist pay VED rather than road tax unless she/he farted continuously?
I care because when I cycle I cycle within the law. When I drive I drive within the law. I get pissed off by all the ignoramuses who think they're above the law. The pavement cyclists, the mobile phone users whilst driving, the cycling red light jumpers, the middle-lane hogs and tailgaters. If only ignorance were illegal and punishable by law.
It's not hard to stay within the law. The roads aren't as dangerous as people think. Stupidity and ignorance are endemic.

Thankfully I still have my old PC and a sledgehammer and when things get a bit too much I can have a good distressing session.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: The Letter R on December 13, 2013, 09:14:59 AM
One great idea would be to ban HGVs from city centres during the day. And (as they do on the continent) make drivers responsible by default for any collisions they have with smaller road users (same goes for bikes and pedestrians). Not their fault then fine - but they have to show that. Given drivers cause the vast majority of RTAs then this should not be an issue. Works abroad anyhow and bikes get more space and respect. Then again we'd never really get respect over here - possibly too late for that. Just more resentment. Piling the responsibility for safety on the roads onto cyclists is frankly ridiculous.
Making drivers responsible by default only takes away the responsibilty of the cyclists to cycle safely and within the law - unless a driver has a load of witnesses or a camera in his car it will be pretty much impossible to prove either way so that is a stupid idea for both parties - if cyclists want respect on the road then responsibitly needs to be shared by ALL road users.
Whilst HGV's may be the cause of many an accident simply banning them during the day is not a "great idea" - how do you think shops get stocked with goods, shelves don't magically fill with product, and before you say more vans could do this then that's just adding more traffic into the system.
Shared responsibilty is the way forward with better education for cyclists who around my way seem to think that red lights and zebra crossings are not things they need to observe, boucing between pavement and road is OK, lights optional and cycling with headphones in is sensible - yes there are loads of dumb car drivers too but most cyclists I see are courting death and seem oblivious to it by their own actions or in-actions.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on December 13, 2013, 10:35:13 AM
I sense this debate is going absolutely nowhere, bit like discussing vapour trails

cyclists also get obliterated by buses in cities, you cant surely ban them as well
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Andrew_Haldane on December 13, 2013, 21:40:26 PM
I care because when I cycle I cycle within the law. When I drive I drive within the law. I get pissed off by all the ignoramuses who think they're above the law. The pavement cyclists, the mobile phone users whilst driving, the cycling red light jumpers, the middle-lane hogs and tailgaters. If only ignorance were illegal and punishable by law.
It's not hard to stay within the law. The roads aren't as dangerous as people think. Stupidity and ignorance are endemic.

Thankfully I still have my old PC and a sledgehammer and when things get a bit too much I can have a good distressing session.

Youve taken my quote out of context Just to be clear Im not suggesting you shouldn't care about the things you highlighted I was talking about Road tax vs VED
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on December 13, 2013, 21:46:55 PM
Youve taken my quote out of context Just to be clear Im not suggesting you shouldn't care about the things you highlighted I was talking about Road tax vs VED
Well Road Tax doesn't exist. Nobody pays Road Tax.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on December 13, 2013, 21:47:53 PM
I sense this debate is going absolutely nowhere, bit like discussing vapour trails

cyclists also get obliterated by buses in cities, you cant surely ban them as well
And cyclists - and motorists - get themselves obliterated by cycling/driving like twats.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Andrew_Haldane on December 13, 2013, 21:50:54 PM
Well Road Tax doesn't exist. Nobody pays Road Tax.

I give up.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on December 13, 2013, 21:54:37 PM
I give up.
Don't do that, we're here for you :)

There can be no debate for Road Tax vs VED.

And I find it quite hard to fart on the old pushbike as the seat sticks up my arsehole.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Andy42g on December 15, 2013, 16:47:42 PM
Making drivers responsible by default only takes away the responsibilty of the cyclists to cycle safely and within the law - unless a driver has a load of witnesses or a camera in his car it will be pretty much impossible to prove either way so that is a stupid idea for both parties - if cyclists want respect on the road then responsibitly needs to be shared by ALL road users.
So we just stay as it is do we with drivers killing cyclists? The whole point of the discussion atm is to make cycling safer. And given it's the drivers doing the vast majority off the damage out there then maybe it's them who should take the vast majority of the responsibility?

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Whilst HGV's may be the cause of many an accident simply banning them during the day is not a "great idea" -
Actually - it is.

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how do you think shops get stocked with goods, shelves don't magically fill with product, and before you say more vans could do this then that's just adding more traffic into the system.
There's these things called nights.  There's need to re regulation and stuff but surely something could be worked out. Better than just doing nothing.

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Shared responsibilty is the way forward with better education for cyclists who around my way seem to think that red lights and zebra crossings are not things they need to observe, boucing between pavement and road is OK, lights optional and cycling with headphones in is sensible - yes there are loads of dumb car drivers too but most cyclists I see are courting death and seem oblivious to it by their own actions or in-actions.
Whataboutery.

We've done this over and over. There are shit cyclists and shit drivers - let's just say they cancel each other out. Except that's not right because shit drivers kill and shit cyclists just generally annoy - so there's no comparison really.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Andy42g on December 15, 2013, 16:50:12 PM
I give up.
And note that VED does not pay for roads - it's just a payment for you car's  air polution. Cyclists pay just as much tax for the roads as everyone else.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Andy42g on December 15, 2013, 16:53:47 PM
cyclists also get obliterated by buses in cities, you cant surely ban them as well
True but buses at least get drivers out of cars, so reducing traffic.
The point is not just to arbitrarily ban things which might be dangerous - it is to reduce the amount of traffic out in cities during the day.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Andrew_Haldane on December 15, 2013, 17:35:38 PM
If Public Transport was renationalised and funded properly from the public purse it would get rid of a lot of urban traffic
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Bez on December 15, 2013, 21:05:45 PM
If Public Transport was renationalised and funded properly from the public purse it would get rid of a lot of urban traffic

Only if it went to the correct destinations....its shite round here unless you want to travel to London
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Andrew_Haldane on December 15, 2013, 21:17:57 PM
Only if it went to the correct destinations....its shite round here unless you want to travel to London

You live out in the shires dont you? The vast majority of the money that is taken by TOCs is from commuters and there is a big disparity in ticket prices for services terminating in a major city. Commuters fund the entire network, if the railways were renationalised then rural services could (notice the word could, rather than would) be better run and integrated; fares could be properly subsidised which would attract more people off the roads.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Bez on December 15, 2013, 21:40:46 PM
You live out in the shires dont you? The vast majority of the money that is taken by TOCs is from commuters and there is a big disparity in ticket prices for services terminating in a major city. Commuters fund the entire network, if the railways were renationalised then rural services could (notice the word could, rather than would) be better run and integrated; fares could be properly subsidised which would attract more people off the roads.

I do indeed live in the backwaters of the Shires.... :-\

We have a decent(ish) train service into London Euston  - ironically the Saturday service is the worst, with the last train back around 00:15 - (although the £13 return fare is disproportionately more expensive than the £8 from St Albans to St Pancras - comparable distance and journey time), but local bus services don't serve me every well at all....there's 1 bus an hour from Hemel to St Albans (7 miles away) and no return after around 20:00  for example....the service to Watford is slightly better, but takes an hour and 15 minutes to travel to 8 miles from Hemel town centre to Watford town centre. Last bus home stops around 22:00. There's no way of making these routes profitable and therefore improving the service with huge government input and that's not going to happen in today's economic climate.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: The Letter R on December 16, 2013, 08:57:43 AM
Andy, just because cars or lorries kill cyclists it doesn't mean they were in the wrong it's simply the physical size difference of the two when they collide - it is no measure of who is right and who is wrong. The fact that you want all blame put on the larger mode of transport simply doesn't work as then the cyclists will think even more they are above the law - that is why shared responsibility is the only way.
Three nights ago I was nearly knocked off the pavement while walking along by a cyclists wobbling down the pavement in the dark wearing black with no lights or helmet and shopping balancing off one handle-bar, but not to worry any accident he caused wouldn't have been his fault had he wobbled off into the road in front of car - hey it must have been the driver in the wrong for having the cheek to drive on the road!!
When I was at school we all took something called the Cycling Proficiency Test - does this still happen today in schools?
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Andy42g on December 16, 2013, 09:49:56 AM
This is fun:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-25366998
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Andy42g on December 16, 2013, 10:00:25 AM
Andy, just because cars or lorries kill cyclists it doesn't mean they were in the wrong it's simply the physical size difference of the two when they collide - it is no measure of who is right and who is wrong. The fact that you want all blame put on the larger mode of transport simply doesn't work as then the cyclists will think even more they are above the law - that is why shared responsibility is the only way.
You seem to be missing the point that it's drivers who cause the vast majority of deaths on the road - cyclists are found responsible for a very small fraction of deaths to anyone. This is what needs to be addressed. So (and I'll get the figues) say it's 5% cylcists and 95% motorists doing the damage then the share of the responsibility for safe driving should be the same.

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Three nights ago I was nearly knocked off the pavement while walking along by a cyclists wobbling down the pavement in the dark wearing black with no lights or helmet and shopping balancing off one handle-bar, but not to worry any accident he caused wouldn't have been his fault had he wobbled off into the road in front of car - hey it must have been the driver in the wrong for having the cheek to drive on the road!!
Whataboutery. I could give you a hundred cases where I was nearly run off the road by a car/lorry/bus/van while on my bike.

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When I was at school we all took something called the Cycling Proficiency Test - does this still happen today in schools?
And some of these same school kids are still riding like dicks on bikes. See also car license tests. Everyone driving a car passes one of those. And yet these same drivers still have accidents by driving badly.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Andy42g on December 16, 2013, 10:06:29 AM
There's no way of making these routes profitable and therefore improving the service with huge government input and that's not going to happen in today's economic climate.
:( I blame Thatcher.  :)
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: pdw1 on December 16, 2013, 12:18:04 PM
:( I blame Thatcher.  :)
Yes she is the cause of 95% of road deaths. But can we get away from the blame game and actually work out how we can stop so many people (mainly pedestrians) dying on our roads  :-\
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on December 16, 2013, 12:54:37 PM
more cars, that's what we need, then they wont actually physically move faster than 5mph
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: The Letter R on December 16, 2013, 12:57:27 PM
You seem to be missing the point that it's drivers who cause the vast majority of deaths on the road - cyclists are found responsible for a very small fraction of deaths to anyone. This is what needs to be addressed. So (and I'll get the figues) say it's 5% cylcists and 95% motorists doing the damage then the share of the responsibility for safe driving should be the same.
Not missing the point at all Andy it's all about the physical size as I said earlier, cyclists would be found responisible for very few deaths as it's pretty hard to kill someone on a bike ( although not impossible ), would be interested to know though of the cyclists involved in accidents with vehicles what the actual percentage is of who was to blame - to keep saying we are smailler so it can't be our fault is missing the point - it's like me crossing the road without looking and when I'm lying there after a car as run me down saying "well at least it wasn't my fault". This is the kind of "blame someone else culture" this Country is rife with.Every road use has equal responsibilty for theirs and others safety - end of.
I am not passing blame to any one road user merely saying we ALL need to take responsibilty - this means driving or cycling within the law and wearing the relevant safety gear - whether it be seat belts or cycle helmets etc.....
You seem to be of the view that it is not a joint responsibitly and if that's the way you feel fine, I  am not going to try and convince you further, but that attitude in itself is not going to help reduce accidents and deaths on the road which I thought was your point.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: The Letter R on December 16, 2013, 12:58:35 PM
Yes she is the cause of 95% of road deaths. But can we get away from the blame game and actually work out how we can stop so many people (mainly pedestrians) dying on our roads  :-\
Bring back the Green Cross Code.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: The Letter R on December 16, 2013, 13:08:22 PM
And just to prove they are testing different ideas for road layouts - not far from where I live at TRL :-

http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2013/aug/26/going-dutch-berkshire-tests-netherlands-cycling

Seems they are always looking for testers Andy - maybe you should put your name down as you seem quite passionate on the subject.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Andy42g on December 16, 2013, 14:02:43 PM
You seem to be of the view that it is not a joint responsibitly and if that's the way you feel fine,
But I am not of that opinion. Of course it's a joint responsibility - but drivers do the most damage so they therefore should take the lions share of that responsibility. Come on - that's not too difficult to understand is it?
You can cite all the anecdotes you like of some cyclist on the pavement but when have you ever seen one of them kill anyone? I've seen several drivers kill or seriously injure people on bikes and in other cars. Bad cyclists are (in general) simply annoying. bad drivers are (in general) lethal.
You need to do some commuting on a bike and see what it's like. I'm lucky as I'm good a it. I really would not like to start out as a cyclists in town traffic.

The issue we are discussing is stopping KSIs in cyclists: making the roads safer for them. If you have ever been involved in any on line cycle campaigning or issues with TFL or any of the regional cycling/traffic infrastructure consultations you'd see that chucking the responsibility at the cyclists is a nonsense. There will always be the few who are idiots, but whatever you do there will still be that same bunch who refuse to conform. There'll still be drivers saying "Yeah, well i saw someone on a bike on the pavement/going through a red light/not wearing a helmet" etc etc. Like you are doing. As if that shows how all cyclists are in some way responsible for the deaths that do occur: because it simply doesn't.

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I  am not going to try and convince you further...
Haha. Cheers.

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but that attitude in itself is not going to help reduce accidents and deaths on the road which I thought was your point.
You are just so way off the mark. But hey ho.

Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Andy42g on December 16, 2013, 17:55:50 PM
http://road.cc/content/news/102778-video-boris-bike-vs-mont-ventoux
Nuttery.
Got to go ride this one day.
The hill - not a Barclays bike.  :)
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: The Letter R on December 17, 2013, 09:11:39 AM
But I am not of that opinion. Of course it's a joint responsibility ............chucking the responsibility at the cyclists is a nonsense.

Glad you agree on the first point and if you read what I have posted prieviously I have never chukced all the responsibilty at cyclists - merely stated there should be shared responsibility for all road users. As is blindingly obvious if a car and bike collide the cyclists will come off worst but that is no indication of who was in the right or wrong and a car driver should not be assumed guilty and need to find an army of witnesses to back him/her up, it should be treated like any other accident and investigated properly with no blame assigned until proven either way. If the driver is in the wrong then prosecute or whatever and the same with the cyclists.

Yes the road infrastructure needs to be improved for safer cycling and although I own a bike I choose not to cycle on most local roads as don't feel they are safe enough to do so and value my life and limbs enough to stay off them and this is down to roads more than drivers - I stick to the canal cycle paths.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Andy42g on December 17, 2013, 10:04:11 AM
Glad you agree on the first point and if you read what I have posted prieviously I have never chukced all the responsibilty at cyclists - merely stated there should be shared responsibility for all road users.
But not 50/50 as the drivers do most of the damage. You see how this works.

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If the driver is in the wrong then prosecute or whatever and the same with the cyclists.
Yes - obviously. But putting the onus on drivers to not be wrong in the first place would maybe stop them being wrong so much? Works a treat on the Continent.

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I own a bike I choose not to cycle on most local roads as don't feel they are safe enough to do so
Go on a cycle training course is my advice. It's not that bad out there if you are confident. It just looks daunting. Plus you might see where the flaws in your arguments lie  :)
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on December 17, 2013, 15:48:16 PM
Im not convinced about this driver doing most of the damage argument Andy, much as I would like to defend cyclists to the hilt.

The simple laws of physics dictate a car will do an awful lot of damage to a cyclist, and suffer very little in return. Now Im happy for you to put me straight, but you are saying that because of this the car must shoulder most of the blame? Correct?

We do hear a lot about cyclists getting it at bad junctions, or lorries turning left etc, it is flavour of the month. You rarely hear in the press though about a cyclist getting blapped because they rode like a pillock

Not sure where I am going with this to be honest, but I cant subscribe to the idea that the car driver must shoulder most of the blame/responsibility because they will come off better in a collision
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Bez on December 17, 2013, 16:42:36 PM
Im not convinced about this driver doing most of the damage argument Andy, much as I would like to defend cyclists to the hilt.

The simple laws of physics dictate a car will do an awful lot of damage to a cyclist, and suffer very little in return. Now Im happy for you to put me straight, but you are saying that because of this the car must shoulder most of the blame? Correct?

Exactly
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Andy42g on December 17, 2013, 17:11:10 PM
... are saying that because of this the car must shoulder most of the blame? Correct?
No - I am saying that as the cars do the most damage,and cause most of the accidents then the responsibility for road safety should start with drivers.
We should not be asking all cyclists to take more legislation or whatnot without first making drivers do something. Seems every time road safety is discussed cyclists seem to be the target for improvements rather than drivers, and then we get the usual "whatabout the bike I saw on the pavement the other night without lights" statements as if that's some kind of covering defence for drivers.

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We do hear a lot about cyclists getting it at bad junctions, or lorries turning left etc, it is flavour of the month.
It's been going on steadily for years. The London lot are now screaming yet again to have something done, so more publicity is being made from the campaign. It's just that more noise is being made.

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You rarely hear in the press though about a cyclist getting blapped because they rode like a pillock
True. Not really good for the cyclists campaign? Or because these lorry/bike interfaces are rarely the cycilst's fault?

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Not sure where I am going with this to be honest, but I cant subscribe to the idea that the car driver must shoulder most of the blame/responsibility because they will come off better in a collision
Fine, but how about if (like on the continent) the rule is that big things look after smaller things on the roads. At the moment it seems that drivers mainly get to look after themselves and mainly consider bikes a nuisance : if we could get round this mind set then maybe we'd get some progress and less deaths.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on December 17, 2013, 17:28:35 PM
agreed almost 100%

Not convinced about your comment "I am saying that as the cars do the most damage,and cause most of the accidents " though

is this a statistical fact? if it is then so be it
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: The Letter R on December 18, 2013, 08:40:55 AM
No - I am saying that as the cars do the most damage,and cause most of the accidents then the responsibility for road safety should start with drivers.
We should not be asking all cyclists to take more legislation or whatnot without first making drivers do something. Seems every time road safety is discussed cyclists seem to be the target for improvements rather than drivers, and then we get the usual "whatabout the bike I saw on the pavement the other night without lights" statements as if that's some kind of covering defence for drivers.
I think to be honest Andy in most cases the responsibility does now start with drivers, at the scene of a vehicle and bike accident most assume it was the drivers fault normally becuase, as we are all agreeing the cyclist has come off worst.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Andy42g on December 18, 2013, 11:49:10 AM
agreed almost 100%

Not convinced about your comment "I am saying that as the cars do the most damage,and cause most of the accidents " though

is this a statistical fact? if it is then so be it
Its is a fact. I admittedly need to find the stats, and will what i get a bit of time to look things up.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on January 08, 2014, 09:51:23 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSFYRiqodvU


This was quite enjoyable to help break the boredom of indoor training

Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Andy42g on January 10, 2014, 12:38:36 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSFYRiqodvU


This was quite enjoyable to help break the boredom of indoor training
You need to get out more  ;)
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on January 10, 2014, 13:33:55 PM
You looked outside recently?

signed up for a couple of 100 mile sportives in March, hopefully I wont need an amphibious bike by then
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on January 14, 2014, 14:15:43 PM
http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news/latest/542003/over-14-000-penalised-by-police-in-london-road-safety-operation.html


Some interesting stats, not the least that no one was killed during this time period
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: NeilP on January 14, 2014, 14:54:54 PM
Interesting, wonder what'll happen once this high profile presence ceases?
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on January 14, 2014, 15:13:46 PM
Good to see bike riders were getting done as well as car drivers. Its everybody's responsibility, notjust who is in charge of the biggest vehicle
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Andy42g on January 14, 2014, 16:21:57 PM
Interesting stats:

Those on bikes received 4,269 FPNs or reports for summons in total; 1,277 for contravening traffic signals, 1,608 for cycling without lights at night (though many of these were cancelled when cyclists subsequently produced lights) and 1,057 for cycling on a footway.

Those driving received 10,140 FPNs or reports for summons in total; 1,113 for contravening traffic signals, 2,597 for using a phone while driving, 2,484 for failing to wear a seatbelt and 93 for driving without due care. A further 3,853 FPNs/summons were issued for 'other' offences including driving without insurance or with a vehicle fault.


Why they could be let off for subsequently producing lights is odd?
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: pdw1 on January 14, 2014, 16:50:05 PM
Why they could be let off for subsequently producing lights is odd?
That is standard practice around here. You can avoid paying a £30 fixed fine for cycling without lights if you prove you have bought a set of lights.
At least that way there is a good chance the cyclist will actually have and use the lights from now on. and the cost is not much less.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on January 14, 2014, 17:00:39 PM
Agreed, cost or processing the fine reduced as well, less paperwork, hassle etc, and a positive outcome

I see it in a similar vein to sending car drivers on a driver awareness course if they get done for speeding, rather than just a cash fine or points

Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Andy42g on January 15, 2014, 13:10:46 PM
That is standard practice around here. You can avoid paying a £30 fixed fine for cycling without lights if you prove you have bought a set of lights.
I'll try that with my car tax.  ::)
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on January 16, 2014, 11:04:14 AM
http://midlandbikefit.com/

Popping along to see this chap next weekend, should be interesting and hopefully beneficial
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Andy42g on January 20, 2014, 12:58:32 PM
Gone through another set of tyres commuting: punctures starting to happen. Gatorskins ordered.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on January 20, 2014, 13:29:54 PM
Never looked back from gators, not had a puncture that I can recall since
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Andy42g on January 20, 2014, 14:12:57 PM
Never looked back from gators, not had a puncture that I can recall since
These will be my third set. They do wear out eventually :)
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on January 20, 2014, 14:15:32 PM
you obviously skid too much!
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Andy42g on January 20, 2014, 16:23:02 PM
you obviously skid too much!
:) Was actually thinking if I'd done just this on this back tyre (as it's the back one that gone. Front one seems Ok but I didn't change that last time I changed the back so it's due I reckon as it looks as bad as the back...). Can only remember one slam on incident resulting in a skid. Just the mileage and the road surfaces probably.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on January 20, 2014, 16:56:49 PM
I wonder what the rough mileage on such a tyre would be

Pretty sure Im wearing out my back one very rapidly on my turbo, but cant be arsed putting a training tyre on. Summer bike packed away, so riding to work on crappy winter one, then putting on the turbo in the evening. But with this tabata and some other interval stuff, I cant see me doing anything more, at an absolute max, than 20 miles in a session, or maybe a little more.

Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Andy42g on January 21, 2014, 08:38:33 AM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-25816281
Drivng slowly? Err - how come you did not see the fecking cyclist then? :(
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on January 21, 2014, 11:04:42 AM
Jesus, slightly concerned a wing mirror could have smashed his lid.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Andy42g on January 21, 2014, 13:43:45 PM
Jesus, slightly concerned a wing mirror could have smashed his lid.
Shows how "slowly" the van driver was, err, racing along.
Mate of mine got cracked by a wing mirror when she was walking back to her car and it smashed her elbow up a treat.
I think James Cracknell got his serious head injury from one in the USA. That smashed his lid too.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on January 21, 2014, 14:00:21 PM
I guess the wing mirrors on vans and lorries aren't meant to bend back like a car one, and often in cages or have solid bars, so would be like being hit with a metal bar between 30-70mph.

Must have been bloody close to the cyclist though for it to happen, they don't stick out all that far
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: The Letter R on January 23, 2014, 08:43:49 AM
Difficult to make a judgement call without knowing all the details but looking at the link and the picture of the road it appears to be quite a narrow 3 lane carriageway - so the speed limit is probably 40mph at a minimum - I would say that road was inappropriate to cycle along and am surprised it is allowed - it really needs dedicated a cycle lane.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: pdw1 on January 23, 2014, 09:20:58 AM
Difficult to make a judgement call without knowing all the details but looking at the link and the picture of the road it appears to be quite a narrow 3 lane carriageway - so the speed limit is probably 40mph at a minimum - I would say that road was inappropriate to cycle along and am surprised it is allowed - it really needs dedicated a cycle lane.
So it was Ok to hit him and drive off  >:(


Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Andy42g on January 23, 2014, 10:51:15 AM
I would say that road was inappropriate to cycle along and am surprised it is allowed ..
Do not feed the troll.  ::)
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on January 23, 2014, 11:38:07 AM
He may have a valid point to a degree, there are roads out there that while perfectly legal to ride along, are utterly unsafe to do so in their current state and with the volume of traffic

I was noticing this morning, having actually driven for a change, what a large percentage of the roads I was travelling on were either in a horrid state, were undergoing work, or had just finished some temporary fix. And things are only going to get worse

I learned yesterday that its actually water, not frost that creates potholes in roads, so this wet winter will only make things worse
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Andy42g on January 23, 2014, 12:24:47 PM
He may have a valid point to a degree...
Ok - but the main issue (the only issue here...) is that regardless of how "unsafe" a road may seem it is 100% up to drivers to avoid other road users be they slower cars, bikes or pedestrians. The "well the cyclist shouldn't have been on the road" comment is just making excuses for the driver.
You could apply this to a narrow country lane where there's little visibility and "national speed limits apply". Dangerous for cyclists? Well - that entirely depends on who's driving and how well/badly they are doing it.

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I was noticing this morning, having actually driven for a change, what a large percentage of the roads I was travelling on were either in a horrid state, were undergoing work, or had just finished some temporary fix. And things are only going to get worse
Yup - there's a couple of nasties developing on my route to work in the way of holes in the road. You can report bad ones to the council.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on January 23, 2014, 13:27:48 PM
im thinking about hiring a bike for a few days when I go to Majorca next, always seem a pleasure to drive on thanks to the EU
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: The Letter R on January 23, 2014, 17:26:53 PM
Not trolling at all - just making a valid point which Jonners captured perfectly. I am not "backing up the driver or his story" just making a valid observation on that particular road. Didn't know I wasn't allowed to do that for fear of  upsetting people.....thought this was an adult debate  - as I've said previously it's EVERY road users responsibilty to look out for each other whether pedestrian or HGV driver and all points in between. I wouldn't cycle down that road, that doesn't mean if someone decides to they deserve to get hurt or killed but I would make my only personal safety call and not do it - simple as.
If he thought he "caught a bus stop" however misguided we now know that was, being on a dual carriageway you probably wouldn't bother stopping and getting out for fear of causing further accidents - both sides of the arguement need to be heard here before the "driver guilty" call is made.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Andy42g on January 24, 2014, 09:05:18 AM
I wouldn't cycle down that road, that doesn't mean if someone decides to they deserve to get hurt or killed but I would make my only personal safety call and not do it - simple as.
But you seem to be making an argument based on something you personally would or wouldn't do. Which is a nonsense. Unless the bike was veering across the road (doesn't look like it was given the driver thought he'd clipped a bus stop) or had no lights on (it had lights on) ie doing something "wrong" then the fault is absolutely with the driver.

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If he thought he "caught a bus stop" however misguided we now know that was, being on a dual carriageway you probably wouldn't bother stopping and getting out for fear of causing further accidents -
But that's NOT the point - the point is that he hit the cyclist in the first place - was driving in such a manner that he didn't see another road user on a wide open road.  And surely when you clobber something that hard you stop? Thought he hit a bus stop? He looked behind and saw nothing? Hmmm. As for stopping: signalling, braking and pulling over: dead easy. Actually am amazed there were not many witnesses given it was a busy road.

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Not trolling at all
No, you weren't . Apologies.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Andy42g on January 24, 2014, 09:07:56 AM
http://m.dailyecho.co.uk/news/10958514.999_call_played_to_death_crash_driver_s_trial/
20 minutes later he called it in. And he did pull into a lay by afterwards but couldn't see anything.
Still no excuse for hitting the cyclist in the first place.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on January 24, 2014, 09:30:22 AM
hmmmmm, I think he knew he did it and called it in to cover his arse
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Andy42g on January 24, 2014, 11:05:12 AM
Loads of diesel on the roads atm. Buses must be pissing the stuff out.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: The Letter R on January 24, 2014, 12:42:21 PM
No, you weren't . Apologies.
No problem - the orignal point I was trying to make was that I was surprised from a council / road safety view point either a cycle lane was not installed at the side of the road or being a 3 lane carriageway it was not sign-posted a non-cycle route.
Obviously the details of this case we can only summise and fill in some blanks - and yes the driver should have at least known he had struck something more significant than a post and stopped - if the road was that busy I would have thought vehicles behind would be swerving to avoid the poor chap on the bike as he fell.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Andy42g on January 24, 2014, 13:30:48 PM
No problem - the orignal point I was trying to make was that I was surprised from a council / road safety view point either a cycle lane was not installed at the side of the road or being a 3 lane carriageway it was not sign-posted a non-cycle route.
I understand what you are getting at but it's irrelevant in this case. Given it's not a non cycle route then it's up to drivers to look out for cycles. End of.

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if the road was that busy I would have thought vehicles behind would be swerving to avoid the poor chap on the bike as he fell.
Yup. Unless the blow knocked him of the road completely. Sounds like a heavy strike to have killed him outright? How come no one else saw the collision? Or maybe there's more witnesses to come in the trial.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Andrew_Haldane on January 24, 2014, 18:36:41 PM
It really does seem unbelievable that there were no witnesses and yet he didnt see a cyclist..there were 3 lanes, how can there be no witnesses unless the road was empty? ... in which case he must have seen him....why would you not pull into the next lane over to avoid him if there was no traffic around? Could it even have been deliberate :-\ ....road rage gone too far perhaps?...as Keith rightly points out its all supposition but I'm with Jonners.......for what it's worth. I hope the victims family and the accused get justice.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Andy42g on January 25, 2014, 15:38:09 PM
It really does seem unbelievable that there were no witnesses and yet he didnt see a cyclist..there were 3 lanes, how can there be no witnesses unless the road was empty? ... in which case he must have seen him... Could it even have been deliberate :-\ ....road rage gone too far perhaps?...as Keith rightly points out its all supposition but I'm with Jonners.......for what it's worth. I hope the victims family and the accused get justice.
To be fair I doubt it was deliberate - it very very rarely is. He was probably fiddling with the stereo or lighting a fag or looking at his phone. Distracted. Hits cyclist and drives away. Driving without due care at best - causing death by dangerous driving and a hit and run at worst I guess.

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why would you not pull into the next lane over to avoid him if there was no traffic around?
The driver said the road was "too busy" for him to pull over. Hmmmm  ::).
As for avoiding the cyclist - seems everyone else was managing that perfectly well.

Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Andy42g on January 25, 2014, 15:52:42 PM
Put my order in at FLBS for bits to get the Cannondale hybrid back on the road. Going one on the front - who needs 3 chainwheels?
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on January 27, 2014, 09:29:56 AM
Absolutely fantastic session with these guys on Saturday getting my bikes "fitted" for me

http://midlandbikefit.com/

Nice set up, he is very knowleagable and a nice guy.

Lots of measurements of limbs, flexibility, height, weight, foot size/shape etc. So loads of details

Then fimling and analysing my riding style, computer modelling etc

Ended up with some subtle and interesting changes to the bikes and the set up, resulting in about a 10% power generation increase, but more importantly a lot more comfort (less weight through my dodgy wrist on the bars etc)

Well worth it
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Andy42g on January 27, 2014, 11:01:13 AM
Yes - if and when i go for a new bike (March on the bike to work scheme) am going to get it fitted properly.
My current road machine has the seat post jammed in the frame which is fine as it is but obviously immovable. Unless I get it cut out. :(
How much was the fitting session?
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on January 27, 2014, 11:11:02 AM
£100

Sounds a lot I know, but really opened my eyes.

Gave me a pedalling lesson too, computer model showing the deadspots on my chart for pedalling.

Need to do some one footed pedalling on the turbo going forward to work on this area.

Fascinating though, more than just saddle height stuff
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Straight Shooter on January 27, 2014, 13:23:30 PM
Ended up with some subtle and interesting changes ...
... opened my eyes.
:-X  ;)  ;D
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Digital Matt on January 28, 2014, 21:13:42 PM
At our local Leisure Lakes Cheltenham, I have received bike fitting on my last two bikes. Both very different  bikes that required  about two hours to sort ( I demo'd my Cube MTB for a weekend before buying at no cost),This included changing equipment inc stems,pedals & saddles, and test road riding. Little John at this shop is the guy.
All at no cost.When you consider what you are paying for your bike, the least they can do is send you out properly equipped for what lies ahead.
A 1er for this sounds steep.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: NeilP on January 28, 2014, 21:55:51 PM
Bike fitting is the norm if you're paying for a decent frame... had mine 15 years ago before the end to end
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Fishy on January 29, 2014, 08:14:28 AM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-25926572

Ad banned... i'd have banned it for the stupid strapline...
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Andy42g on January 29, 2014, 09:03:54 AM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-25926572

Ad banned... i'd have banned it for the stupid strapline...
"Furthermore, we were concerned that whilst the cyclist was more than 0.5 metres from the kerb, they appeared to be located more in the centre of the lane when the car behind overtook them and the car almost had to enter the right lane of traffic."
Feck off. That's where you are supposed to be.  Driver has to think before he/she overtakes.... awww, bless.  >:(  >:(  >:(  >:(

EDIT: reading this there really doesn't seem to be much wrong with that ad - it's encouraging drivers to give cyclists more room - which is excellent.
But it noted that the cyclist in the final scene was not wearing a helmet or any other safety attire and appeared to be more than half a metre from the parking lane.
Cyclists don't have to wear helmets (perhaps they should, be as stated that's for them to decide), it's broad daylight so what other safety attire should they have on? And they also should not be expected to be riding within 0.5 m of the kerb (ie in the gutter) as that's the worst place to be in your lane on a bike.
A further complaint that the cyclist was riding too far from the kerb was also dismissed by Cycling Scotland. Yeah - and good for them.
Can't see what the ASA's issue is here to be honest.  :(
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on January 29, 2014, 16:20:30 PM
some ludicrous deals on clothing at planet x at the moment

just picked up a beautiful campagnolo long sleeved jersey for 23 in stead of £110 quid
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Andy42g on January 30, 2014, 13:00:50 PM
some ludicrous deals on clothing at planet x at the moment

just picked up a beautiful campagnolo long sleeved jersey for 23 in stead of £110 quid
Nice. My trusty Altura 3/4 bibs are falling apart. Pay day tomorrow :).
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on January 30, 2014, 13:23:01 PM
and today is another 10% off from yesterdays prices
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Andy42g on January 30, 2014, 13:53:34 PM
and today is another 10% off from yesterdays prices
I hope this trend continues for tomorrow - when I actually have some money.  :D
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on January 30, 2014, 13:54:53 PM
I think it will, im getting daily emails saying another 10% off, how long will it continue, how brave are you etc

Last day of January tomorrow, I imagine tomorrow will be the last day
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Andy42g on January 30, 2014, 14:11:16 PM
I think it will, im getting daily emails saying another 10% off, how long will it continue, how brave are you etc

Last day of January tomorrow, I imagine tomorrow will be the last day
Some jolly nice looking half price Merino stuff in that sale.
EDIT: Blimey - all sorts. Overshoes and gloves here I come for a start.  :)
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on January 30, 2014, 14:16:54 PM
its a good site, its where my bike came from and a few other bits and bobs
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Andy42g on January 30, 2014, 14:21:55 PM
Although I need to not go mad as have just put in an order with FLBS for £100 odd worth of bits for the hybrid. Some quality fettling to be done on that at the weekend.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on January 30, 2014, 15:06:52 PM
Did a bit of messing around with mine last night. Much better at tyres these days, did a couple without levers last night which I have never done before, and swapped the wheels from my winter cheap bike (aksium race wheels) onto the good planet x bike, which had bottom of the range shimano wheels, so changed cassettes for the first time ever, which went fine with no fuss.

Will hopefully be getting a vat of Muc Off tomorrow as well, struggling to get the bikes as clean as I would like in the drive train areas with fairy liquid.

all adds up though as you say
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Andy42g on January 30, 2014, 15:28:05 PM
Will hopefully be getting a vat of Muc Off tomorrow as well, struggling to get the bikes as clean as I would like in the drive train areas with fairy liquid.
Yup - cleaning is important. You got a chain cleaner as they make a huge difference to getting the muck out?
If you go for one make it a Park Tools one as they are just great.
And use Muc Off waterered down as it goes further.
The Hope stuff is better - really excellent:
http://www.bikeradar.com/gear/category/tools/cycling-tools/bike-cleaning/product/review-hope-sh1t-shifter-cleaner-15237/
But this stuff - Rhino Goo - is truly amazing for cleaning. And nice and enviro friendly.
http://compare.ebay.co.uk/like/221106893991?var=lv&ltyp=AllFixedPriceItemTypes&var=sbar&adtype=pla#
Luckily my FLBS stocks it.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on January 30, 2014, 15:39:01 PM
|There is a product called Jiz, which is apparently brilliant, and gives rise to some proper schoolboy humour too
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on January 30, 2014, 23:25:39 PM
|There is a product called Jiz, which is apparently brilliant, and gives rise to some proper schoolboy humour too
*Snort*
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Andy42g on January 31, 2014, 09:13:07 AM
*Snort*
I don't think it's for nasal consumption.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Andy42g on January 31, 2014, 16:06:32 PM
Gone for Castelli 3/4s from Wiggle in their sale.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on January 31, 2014, 16:07:42 PM
Nice

I have some Shutt Velo 3/4's

Campagnolo top arrived from Planet X today. Reasonably glad I have lost a few pounds and inches recently!!!
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Andy42g on February 01, 2014, 17:22:34 PM
3/4s are ace. I use them with leg warmers in serious cold or filthy weather. Well, actually they were on sale XL arm warmers - work a treat on my legs.
Had to order small this time. Mediums seem to be sack arsey on me, having tried a couple of different types on in Evans. Obviously didn't actually buy from Evans.
Their sale is shit - £3.50 off £70 leggings. I think not.

Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Andy42g on February 01, 2014, 17:27:15 PM
Got my Canondale Bad Boy hybrid back on the road today. It has two whole brakes on it now which is useful. Other bits now all in order too. Feels like a tank compared to the road bike but good for commuting.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: döm on February 02, 2014, 01:20:59 AM


Anyone still planning to be cycling at this guys' age?

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/general/others/cycling-102yearold-frenchman-robert-marchand-beats-own-world-record-9101226.html

Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Digital Matt on February 02, 2014, 08:21:38 AM
Ive been using this Moon rear light out on the road this winter and so far it's proved to be excellent.
It has five flash settings , is rechargable via a usb cable and is equipped with a versatile rubberised clip so is easily transferable bike to bike or onto a rucksack.
It is very very bright, 60 lumens and gives 4 hrs of light between charges.Here's a link to the best price on ebay.

http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=301081367452






Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: NeilP on February 02, 2014, 10:34:27 AM
looks useful Matt, thanks for the post.... just noticed it's selling a little cheaper via Amazon
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: The Old Dog on February 02, 2014, 12:34:24 PM
I like to keep things simple where lights are concerned
For the Rear
http://www.edinburghbicycle.com/products/revolution-flash-rear-silicone-led-light?bct=browse%2faccessories%2flights-batteries
For the Front
http://www.wiggle.co.uk/exposure-joystick-mk8-with-redeye-micro-and-headband

both being usb chargeable so no batteries to worry about ,also keep a set of these as back ups in the seat bag  ;)
http://www.edinburghbicycle.com/products/revolution-vision-2-micro-led-lightset
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on February 03, 2014, 09:27:54 AM
I use these

So far so good

http://www.wiggle.co.uk/knog-frog-strobe-led-twinpack/
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Andy42g on February 03, 2014, 10:27:40 AM
Anyone still planning to be cycling at this guys' age?
Hopefully yes.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on February 03, 2014, 10:32:52 AM
me too, unfortunately for us regular (and irregular riders) that decision may be out of our hands!
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: pdw1 on February 03, 2014, 14:45:11 PM
My neighbour is till going strong in his 70s.  Off to the paper shop every morning on his bike.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on February 04, 2014, 12:20:48 PM
http://blog.wiggle.com/2014/02/03/guest-blog-two-ways-bikes-can-be-better-than-cars-for-local-businesses/?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=wiggle-social-media&utm_campaign=Facebook&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=wiggle-social-media&utm_campaign=Twitter

Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on February 11, 2014, 09:54:43 AM
http://www.britishcycling.org.uk/campaigning/article/cam20140207-British-Cycling-launches-10-point-plan-to-transform-Britain-into-a-true-cycling-nation-0

Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Andy42g on February 24, 2014, 15:18:19 PM
Looking round for a new road bike for £1k on the cycle to work scheme. Fun :).
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on February 24, 2014, 16:12:20 PM
Planet X have some great deals, recommend mine thoroughly, and it came in at £999.99
There was also a really nice article in CW last week talking about 5 Road bikes at under £1k, and they all looked brilliant

http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/group-tests/four-bikes-1000-115131

Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Andy42g on February 25, 2014, 09:07:42 AM
Planet X have some great deals, recommend mine thoroughly, and it came in at £999.99
There was also a really nice article in CW last week talking about 5 Road bikes at under £1k, and they all looked brilliant

http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/group-tests/four-bikes-1000-115131
Cheers.
The Cube looks rather good.
I think I'll end up in Planet X very soon. There's
http://www.planetx.co.uk/i/q/CBPXRT57ULT/planet-x-rt-57-shimano-ultegra-6800-road-bike
with an extra £200.  :)
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on February 25, 2014, 09:33:36 AM
Very nice, very similar indeed to the one I got, just getting some more gloss on the finish, nicer stem and changers I think. Still a lot of bike for the money,

Frames are magnificent
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Andy42g on February 25, 2014, 09:35:51 AM
Very nice, very similar indeed to the one I got, just getting some more gloss on the finish, nicer stem and changers I think. Still a lot of bike for the money,

Frames are magnificent
The Ultegra chainset is the draw on that one. I have 105 on mine now and really it's been great - did need to change the front mech though.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Andy42g on February 25, 2014, 09:36:55 AM
Was chatting to Rach about this yesterday and she's err, looking forward to a trip down to Sheffield. :)
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: NeilP on February 25, 2014, 09:48:02 AM
The Ultegra chainset is the draw on that one. I have 105 on mine now and really it's been great - did need to change the front mech though.

I've always been a Campag groupset fan tbh, never had a problem with their stuff even when I was living on my bike, a fair few years back granted. ::)
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on February 25, 2014, 10:16:01 AM
The Ultegra chainset is the draw on that one. I have 105 on mine now and really it's been great - did need to change the front mech though.

Everyone I meet, whether at sportives or having my bike fitted, always remarks how much bike you get from planet X and how on earth did I get Ultegra in at that price.

Guess its a bit like Aldi/Lidl etc, volume purchases then back themselves to market them hard and sell them. Plus its mostly web based, with a small retail function, so overheads down

Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: NeilP on February 25, 2014, 10:27:34 AM
Just looked at their frames and assuming yours is a carbon mono then their prices range from £300 to £3000 and the team replica frames at about 70% discounted at £700 - presumably they're not selling at their list prices. Just shows you how cheap frame manufacture has become, must bring a tear to the eye of the old pro's who moved into mig/tig welding of specialist frames?
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Andy42g on February 25, 2014, 10:29:27 AM
I've always been a Campag groupset fan tbh
Never bothered with it - mainly because I've never really had road bikes before and Shimano or SRAM rules on mountain bikes.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Fishy on February 25, 2014, 15:56:54 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-surrey-26336618

what a fecking idiot...
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on February 25, 2014, 20:15:02 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-surrey-26336618

what a fecking idiot...
Absolute Wazzock.

If you don't know bicycles aren't allowed on Motorways you shouldn't be pedalling one. And they say ignorance is bliss...
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Andy42g on February 26, 2014, 08:25:56 AM
Absolute Wazzock.
If you don't know bicycles aren't allowed on Motorways you shouldn't be pedalling one. And they say ignorance is bliss...
Absolutely.
Mind you "we" have become rather over reliant on Sat navs these days. I hate em personally. Nowt wrong with a map.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Andy42g on February 26, 2014, 10:53:33 AM
Just done a photoshoot thing for YBS (who I am contracted to) for their TDF Yorkshire sponsorship.  Good fun. More events in the pipeline for this. and some freebie kit. :)
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on February 26, 2014, 11:00:30 AM
Just done a photoshoot thing for YBS (who I am contracted to) for their TDF Yorkshire sponsorship.  Good fun. More events in the pipeline for this. and some freebie kit. :)

Ahem

If there is anything in a large you don't want......
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Andy42g on February 26, 2014, 12:09:37 PM
Ahem

If there is anything in a large you don't want......
:)
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on February 26, 2014, 20:21:24 PM
Absolutely.
Mind you "we" have become rather over reliant on Sat navs these days. I hate em personally. Nowt wrong with a map.
I refuse to have a Sat Nav.

A Good Road Atlas and an internet route planner are all you need. Mind could do with one when I go to Leeds as the place is a hellhole for drivers >:(
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Andy42g on February 27, 2014, 09:30:14 AM
Mind could do with one when I go to Leeds as the place is a hellhole for drivers >:(
Yup - it's quite tricky even when you know what you are doing driving in Leeds city :).
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on February 27, 2014, 09:36:49 AM
didn't seem that complicated when I was a student there, although I didn't have a car, and lived in Headingley...
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Andy42g on February 27, 2014, 11:11:39 AM
http://www.transcontinentalrace.com/
Guy here at work doing this.  They are looking at 200 miles a day. For 2 weeks.   :o
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on February 27, 2014, 11:13:57 AM
that's a lot, must be looking at a minimum of 10 hours a day in the saddle, and more like 14 or 15
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Andy42g on February 27, 2014, 11:48:31 AM
that's a lot, must be looking at a minimum of 10 hours a day in the saddle, and more like 14 or 15
Yes. Seems like a slog to me. Ooh - the chaffing.  Hope they are taking some decent arse lard.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on February 27, 2014, 11:54:17 AM
just read it, looks fecking horrible, and absolutely no fun whatsoever.

But then again its the challenge I guess. could see you doing some real harm to yourself physically though
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on February 27, 2014, 12:55:49 PM
Attention Andy!

http://www.planetx.co.uk/i/q/YBSH379973/holdsworth-trentino-shimano-tiagra-carbon-road-bike--medium-red-blue
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: NeilP on February 28, 2014, 10:56:55 AM
this is a first maybe?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cycling/26380339
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Andy42g on February 28, 2014, 11:09:06 AM
http://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/news/latest-news/top-stories/grand-news-society-celebrates-cycling-support-1-6467925
Fame at last :)
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on February 28, 2014, 11:14:53 AM
this is a first maybe?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cycling/26380339

finders keepers!
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Matt2112 on February 28, 2014, 11:18:28 AM
http://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/news/latest-news/top-stories/grand-news-society-celebrates-cycling-support-1-6467925
Fame at last :)

Are bikes allowed on the grounds of Leeds Town Hall?  Tut tut...   ::)



 ;)
 
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Andy42g on February 28, 2014, 11:27:17 AM
Attention Andy!

http://www.planetx.co.uk/i/q/YBSH379973/holdsworth-trentino-shimano-tiagra-carbon-road-bike--medium-red-blue
Err - I just ordered that :) Thank you very much! Can put it on hold pending the CTW voucher and also change it if it's not right or I find a better one. But the ball is rolling towards shiny new bike.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on February 28, 2014, 11:51:09 AM
Looks an awful lot of bike for the cash that.

Nicely done
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Andy42g on February 28, 2014, 13:37:17 PM
Looks an awful lot of bike for the cash that.
Nicely done
Yeah. Good frame and decent kit. What's not to like? Not so sure about the paint job though  :). Hopefully I can get a proper look at it before deciding, and I do also want to have a go on the Planet X own brand carbon machines. There's lots of bargainous bikes around ATM - Wiggle seem to be knocking a lot of money off some good stuff as well.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on February 28, 2014, 13:55:56 PM
I love my Planet X own brand, nice stealth paint job on it too

That bike looks great value though. Paint job is a little garish, but so what
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Andy42g on March 05, 2014, 12:01:24 PM
Both of my supa bright, supa cheap from China lights died within a week. Will buy some more - they were only £20 each and lasted a good while.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Andy42g on March 10, 2014, 15:25:29 PM
Sunshyine! Road bike tastic.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on March 10, 2014, 16:21:28 PM
Got the carbon bike out yesterday, very nice.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Andy42g on March 11, 2014, 08:46:59 AM
Did two hours on the road after work last night in stunning conditions taking in Balidon and Ilkley Moors. Good to give the legs a proper work out.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on March 13, 2014, 10:11:31 AM
http://www.ukcyclingevents.co.uk/events/cobbler-classic-sportive/

Doing this next weekend, nice steady start to the season
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Andy42g on March 13, 2014, 10:32:28 AM
http://www.ukcyclingevents.co.uk/events/cobbler-classic-sportive/
Doing this next weekend, nice steady start to the season
Looks good - some nice countryside down there. Good though these sportives undoubtably are have to say I'd save my money, download the course routes and go and do them myself when there's less cyclists around!

Looking at a week's touring at some point soon-ish. West Ireland or the Outer Hebrides. Planning afoot.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on March 13, 2014, 11:16:04 AM
I quite enjoy the business of it, good camaraderie, feed stations, security and St Johns etc, plus goody bags, photos, videos etc
£25 seems quite cheap for all that
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Andy42g on March 13, 2014, 12:41:23 PM
I quite enjoy the business of it, good camaraderie, feed stations, security and St Johns etc, plus goody bags, photos, videos etc
£25 seems quite cheap for all that
Indeed. Enjoy.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Andy42g on March 19, 2014, 10:23:35 AM
Hybrid conversion to one up front and 10 at the back done last night. Seems fine but I may need to get a slightly bigger front ring. We shall see. Not having a front changer makes things a bit neater as well as cutting down maintenance, and I'm looking at doing the same on my mountain bike.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on March 19, 2014, 11:49:23 AM
Some nice deals here, and 10% cheaper tomorrow, and another 10% Friday.....

http://www.planetx.co.uk/c/q/deals/price-drop?utm_source=The+Planet+X+and+On-One+Mailing+List&utm_campaign=19d8964b62-19%2F03%2F2014+Price+Drop&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_561486488b-19d8964b62-272651689&mc_cid=19d8964b62&mc_eid=0f1dd48c23

Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Andy42g on March 25, 2014, 16:31:01 PM
House move pending and new kit would be nice but rather extravagant. New bike therefore cancelled. Current one will have to suffice for a while longer.
It's your legs that count anyway mainly! and now I have the hybrid back on the go properly the road bike is saved for "best" as it is. :)
May get to use it in the Lakes at the weekend.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on March 28, 2014, 09:18:12 AM
nice sportive last week in and around Towcester (The cobbler classic) and doing one this sunday around Ironbridge and Telford (The Motion im Mercia organised by Kilo to go)
its 92 miles, need to average 17mph for the gold standard which is quite steep riding by yourself, but will give it a go
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: NeilP on March 28, 2014, 10:52:44 AM
17 mph is just about doable but a good target, can you stick close to others or are you told not to?
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on March 28, 2014, 12:01:18 PM
I should stick to others, but keep humming the Uninvited Guest by Marillion when I do!

Weather looks more friendly thank god

All about nutrition, I messed up massively last week but am more focussed this week, using this regime:-

http://www.roadbikerider.com/nutrition/how-eat-endurance



Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Andy42g on March 28, 2014, 13:37:29 PM
Jelly babies. That's it. :)

About every 30 minutes, eat 20 grams of carbohydrate—the equivalent of half an energy bar, several fig bars or half a banana. Some riders prefer smaller portions more frequently.
And this.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on March 28, 2014, 13:44:31 PM
I was warned off sweets, just in case your body starts making too much insulin
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on March 31, 2014, 10:26:43 AM
5hrs 31, missed it by 6 minutes, caused by some bad signage/locals stealing the signs which gave us a 10 minute detour

Gutted
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: NeilP on March 31, 2014, 16:07:01 PM
well done anyway, now get on the turbo trainer! ;)
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on March 31, 2014, 16:39:26 PM
well done anyway, now get on the turbo trainer! ;)

Not for a few days, had a fall, so got a very bruised/skinned thigh/hip, sore shoulder and a very sore wrist

Might just have a few days off....
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Andy42g on March 31, 2014, 17:34:51 PM
Not for a few days, had a fall, so got a very bruised/skinned thigh/hip, sore shoulder and a very sore wrist
Ouch. Well done anyway.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: NeilP on April 01, 2014, 02:39:52 AM
take it easy Jonners
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on April 01, 2014, 09:46:29 AM
will do.

For some reason, have been having problems downloading the ride from my Garmin Edge 800 to either Garmin connect or Strava at home on our laptops

However, did it easily at work today on my 2 yr old PC

Odd
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Andy42g on April 16, 2014, 09:58:23 AM
Compulsory reading for drivers ?
http://www.motoring.co.uk/car-news/cyclists-why-do-they-ride-in-the-middle-of-the-road-_62617
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on April 17, 2014, 21:54:57 PM
Compulsory reading for drivers ?
http://www.motoring.co.uk/car-news/cyclists-why-do-they-ride-in-the-middle-of-the-road-_62617
And too many inept cyclists would use that as a carte-blanche excuse to cycle like a c***. Things cut both ways - and it's easier cutting up a cyclist, less damaging to your motor :)
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Andy42g on April 22, 2014, 16:00:42 PM
And too many inept cyclists would use that as a carte-blanche excuse to cycle like a c***.
How so?
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on April 22, 2014, 16:22:09 PM
On a change of subject, have joined a "fun" cycling group in my region, the Boldmere bullets (Viva la bullets!)

Members up to 100 now on Strava, the organisers are doing loads of good stuff, including a Tour de Boldmere over the summer, which has 4 stages a month to ride over the summer period, the first of which is the Prologue, a 7.8m sprint around the circuit of Sutton Park

Looks great fun, they reckon a time of between 20 and 21 minutes will get the Yellow jersey for stage 1 after the prologue, which looks a bit fast to these eyes, although to be honest I have never tried a time trial/sprint/balls to the wall 20 minute effort.

https://twitter.com/BoldmereBullets

http://www.strava.com/routes/252125

Should be a bit of fun, we are also getting team kit soon etc
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: pdw1 on April 23, 2014, 14:09:29 PM
Pickle(s) on a bike
http://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/News/Cabinet-minister-Eric-Pickles-challenged-to-car-vs-bike-race-across-Cambridge-over-anti-motorist-comments-20140423064500.htm
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: pdw1 on April 24, 2014, 15:50:27 PM
Wonderful cycle lanes from around the world
http://www.theguardian.com/cities/bike-blog/2014/apr/24/cycle-path-fails-world-bike-lanes-guardian-readers
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Andy42g on April 25, 2014, 15:14:24 PM
Wonderful cycle lanes from around the world
http://www.theguardian.com/cities/bike-blog/2014/apr/24/cycle-path-fails-world-bike-lanes-guardian-readers
::) They should show some of the really good ones for a change.
Mind you that blue strip "highway" in London looks fecking lethal.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on April 25, 2014, 16:15:19 PM
Attempting the prologue of our Tour de Boldmere tomorrow.

The leader so far has rather spoiled things early doors with a time of 20:44 over the 7.8 mile course, so an average speed of 22.6mph

And its not flat before anyone pipes up!
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on April 30, 2014, 17:42:05 PM
Joined my first every cycling club, the Boldmere Bullets.
You can find us on facebook, Twitter and Strava

And here, hot off the press, is our team kit we are having made:-

http://thecarters.smugmug.com/Graphics/i-wGn526F/0/O/Cycling-FullKit.jpg

Looks nice, unless you are a ginga.....
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Andy42g on April 30, 2014, 23:03:21 PM
You'll have to go fast in that. Everyone loves overtaking someone in team kit :)
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on May 01, 2014, 09:30:53 AM
I know, including myself! Team kit wankers
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Fishy on May 02, 2014, 09:01:32 AM
any plans to write a book about your cycling adventures ??
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: pdw1 on May 02, 2014, 09:20:52 AM
Joined my first every cycling club, the Boldmere Bullets.
You can find us on facebook, Twitter and Strava

And here, hot off the press, is our team kit we are having made:-

http://thecarters.smugmug.com/Graphics/i-wGn526F/0/O/Cycling-FullKit.jpg

Looks nice, unless you are a ginga.....
It is truly revolting; ginga or not.

Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on May 02, 2014, 10:05:09 AM
Wait til you see me in it then!
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on May 02, 2014, 14:33:44 PM
http://www.wiggle.co.uk/campagnolo-zonda-clincher-wheelset/

Just bought these bad boys, my stock wheels on my winter bike are on the verge, so will move the basic shimano ones from my good bike down to the winter one, and put these beauties on the Planet-x Carbon.

They seem a good bargain, universally loved by those who have purchased, and look like they will make a difference
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on May 07, 2014, 16:25:54 PM
http://www.yorkpress.co.uk/news/11197164.Cyclist_captures_drivers_behaving_badly_on_York_roads/


Riders in Le Tour better watch out when they go through York then, looks a right old shambles.......
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on May 11, 2014, 17:51:51 PM
A nice bit of cycling minge.

(http://cdn.media.cyclingnews.com/2013/02/06/1/siri_minge_670.jpg)

Her surname just happens to be Minge. Christian name Siri. Siri me for not spelling that out. I wouldn't want anybody to get the wrong idea.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on May 12, 2014, 09:56:50 AM
Nice!

Lots of the womens tour shown on ITV4 an Eurosport, which is excellent for their section of the sport

Also, loads of other coverage of things like the Giro, 4 days of Dunkirk, the GB grand Prix challenge etc
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Andy42g on May 12, 2014, 10:46:14 AM
Giro got pissed on on the first stages in and from Belfast which was a shame. The Antrim coast is spectacular though.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on May 13, 2014, 13:32:46 PM
Watched Wiggins do his TT last night in the Tour of California, and Cav and a couple of others, and by Christ Sir Brad put the hammer down, a massive lead to take into the tour after 2 days. While its a bit early to guarantee it, team Sky are in a great position, are used to being in this position, and know how to protect the Yellow Jersey.

Eurosport Channel very bikey at the mo
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Andy42g on May 14, 2014, 12:18:31 PM
Lots of the womens tour shown on ITV4 an Eurosport, which is excellent for their section of the sport
But meat heads trolls referring to women cyclists as "minge" is not really excellent for their section of the sport. ::)
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on May 14, 2014, 12:22:32 PM
But meat heads trolls referring to women cyclists as "minge" is not really excellent for their section of the sport. ::)

agreed, that's no way to talk about clunge
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Andy42g on May 14, 2014, 12:38:11 PM
agreed, that's no way to talk about clunge
::)
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on May 14, 2014, 21:57:01 PM
But meat heads trolls referring to women cyclists as "minge" is not really excellent for their section of the sport. ::)
When her surname is minge then it's a fair comment. But quick to judge, quick to anger, slow to understand grauniadistas like to jump in with two feet. Language isn't as fixed as some folk would like it. Little wonder I was known as King Troll back in the day :)
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on May 15, 2014, 09:52:33 AM
That's made me giggle!

anyway, here is a picture of a nice wet hyman

(https://www.sanctuaryoncamelback.com/cmsassets/images/MistyHyman.jpg)
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Andy42g on May 15, 2014, 12:24:24 PM
When her surname is minge then it's a fair comment. But quick to judge, quick to anger, slow to understand grauniadistas like to jump in with two feet. Language isn't as fixed as some folk would like it.
Not biting, but you got the point anyway.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: DavidL on May 15, 2014, 14:10:33 PM
That's made me giggle!

anyway, here is a picture of a nice wet hyman

(https://www.sanctuaryoncamelback.com/cmsassets/images/MistyHyman.jpg)
I should know better but... ;D ;D
Would her first pet's name be Misty and her mum's maiden name Hyman by any chance - not caught any of her movies if that is the case ;)
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Andy42g on May 20, 2014, 12:25:22 PM
Brilliant mountain bike ride Sunday. Addingham (so good, apparently, that the TDF goes though it twice), Skipton, Rhylstone, Barden Moor and all the way back down to Bolton Abbey. Stunning scenery; fabulous weather and good company.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on May 21, 2014, 08:58:20 AM
Magnificent pile up with a KM to go last night in the giro....
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Andy42g on June 06, 2014, 12:46:04 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cycling/27729769
No Brad at Le Tour. Bit inevitable really. :(
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on June 06, 2014, 12:57:03 PM
There is a caveat in there "as it stands"

Cant see it happening, but you never know

Two British tour winners riding out with Le Gran depart in Britain, would be nice to see that

Froom seems likeable, but is obviously a spikey character, as is Wiggo

Being mercenary, I think froome has the better chance of winning myself
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Andy42g on June 06, 2014, 13:38:05 PM
Being mercenary, I think froome has the better chance of winning myself
Obviously, or else Sky would have Wiggo as No1 rider - in the Dauphine etc.
He's out of contract soon - bet he'll move along.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on June 06, 2014, 14:55:12 PM
Wants to go back to the track for 2016, so I imagine anyone who signs him will have to give it some very careful thought, although I bet Cav's lot at Omega Pharma would love to have him for a year, see if they can get the green and yellow jersey at the TDF
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: DavidL on June 06, 2014, 14:58:12 PM
I'll be surprised if Wiggins has another Tour win in him. My guess is that he doesn't have the motivation to put himself through the anguish required especially if the course doesn't suit him - unlike in 2012.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Andy42g on June 06, 2014, 16:31:37 PM
I'll be surprised if Wiggins has another Tour win in him. My guess is that he doesn't have the motivation to put himself through the anguish required especially if the course doesn't suit him - unlike in 2012.
He won California and see how he does in the Swiss tour. Will be interesting to see if he gets in the Vuelta. Froome will be knacked from the TDF. The Vuelta seems to be even physically harder than the TDF.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on June 06, 2014, 16:39:45 PM
Plus Wiggo has a tick list of things to win yet. Giro/Vuelta etc
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: NeilP on June 06, 2014, 17:25:36 PM
I'll be surprised if Wiggins has another Tour win in him. My guess is that he doesn't have the motivation to put himself through the anguish required especially if the course doesn't suit him - unlike in 2012.

Froome could have beaten him that year if it wasn't for team orders
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: DavidL on June 06, 2014, 18:53:37 PM
Plus Wiggo has a tick list of things to win yet. Giro/Vuelta etc
Yes that seems to be his modus operandi.
Froome could have beaten him that year if it wasn't for team orders
I wouldn't argue with that statement. Do you think Wiggo being a more 'saleable' item played a part in 2012? I mean, he's a bigger personality and you could argue that a Wiggins win did more for the team's profile. I'm just speculating.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: NeilP on June 07, 2014, 08:58:05 AM
I wouldn't argue with that statement. Do you think Wiggo being a more 'saleable' item played a part in 2012? I mean, he's a bigger personality and you could argue that a Wiggins win did more for the team's profile. I'm just speculating.

I think it was ego, if you read the cycling websites threads of 'doubters/cynics' of which there's plenty about the meteoric rise of Froome, there's serious doubt too regarding Wiggo's move from track to road and climbing ability just through losing 8 Kg's. Wiggins was the clear team leader of Sky that year and after a glorious Spring season could see the rise of Froome and was uneasy about it... since then he probably realises he's not 'the one' any more and I doubt he race in La Grand Boucle against Froome with another team unless there's more cheating allegations that have some foundation.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Norwegian on June 07, 2014, 10:24:26 AM
Just in: Thor Hushovd not wanted in BMC Racing anymore
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Andy42g on June 18, 2014, 12:38:53 PM
Wiggo out of Swiss tour:
http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2014/jun/18/bradley-wiggins-sky-pulls-out-tour-switzerland
He's a bit crap/rather unlucky at the moment...
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on June 18, 2014, 12:51:45 PM
reckons he has a chest infection as well, so probably best

I honestly think he will go and ride with Cav for a year at Omega and try for another Tour win
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Andy42g on June 18, 2014, 13:32:48 PM
He's in the Commonwealth Games team. Maybe he'll do the Vuelta for Sky?
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on June 18, 2014, 13:49:20 PM
British road champs in Monmouth next week as well, hopefully fit for those
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Andy42g on June 26, 2014, 12:51:18 PM
Some nice freebie kit from YBS here who are sponsoring the TDF Grand Depart. Leeds and all the villages involved getting nicely, err, geared up. Out on the Dales Saturday skirting around the route (it'll be mobbed no doubt) but likely will watch the actual event on the telly as H is not too fussed on the crowds in her wheelchair, and not too fussed on the cycling full stop! We may get out somewhere and see the circus pass.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on July 01, 2014, 11:58:08 AM
One for Andy:-

http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news/latest-news/4million-transform-leeds-cycle-friendly-city-128744

Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: JonL on July 01, 2014, 12:20:00 PM
Some nice freebie kit from YBS here who are sponsoring the TDF Grand Depart. Leeds and all the villages involved getting nicely, err, geared up. Out on the Dales Saturday skirting around the route (it'll be mobbed no doubt) but likely will watch the actual event on the telly as H is not too fussed on the crowds in her wheelchair, and not too fussed on the cycling full stop! We may get out somewhere and see the circus pass.

I'd love to take a trip down for the first weekend.
I was thinking about heading down to Letburn on the Sunday (?), but I'll probably have to take my spot at about 5am.
I'll be watching at the Cycle Hub cafe on the Quayside instead, I think they're making quite an event of it.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Andy42g on July 01, 2014, 12:41:21 PM
Total bobbins! The reason I agreed the Captain made a good point is because the unintended consequences of that cyclist's studipity are not too difficult to imagine for most people (IMO) apart from the stupid, selfish cyclist herself.
But the point was that there were no consequences - were there? She went through a red light ... and nothing happened, apert from she annoyed some drivers who then made up scenarios in their head wherein the cyclist caused a traffic accident. But this did not happen.
I commute an hour plus every day on my bike and have done so for years. I see cyclists RLJ-ing a lot, and I have NEVER seen one get smashed by a car doing so, or even getting close.

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Er, I think you refer to that as 'whataboutery' don't you? Yeah all those car drivers ignoring traffic lights, terrible situation  ::) Yes cars are dangerous objects when uncontrolled due to their mass - what's your point in the context of this debate?
I guess it is, but the issue was that the cycllst was supposedly a "danger" - and in conclusion she wasn't a danger at all. She was annoying to drivers, or to Ron, and he opted to go for an argument about how dangerous she was, in his perception. I was illustrating how little danger she was to anyone, and the danger to him lies in other drivers' behaviour. It's not that difficult a concept to understand really.

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So cycle training will make no difference because driver training makes no difference, in your view at least.
Please present your argument as to why it would, in your opinion. Drivers are trained and there are still bad drivers, so it stands to reason that there will still be eejit cyclists. Adult cycling training as a damn good idea and there's lots of these courses running to give people the confidence to be out there in the traffic on bikes. Great stuff. No training is going to stop a 15 year old on a BMX racing down the pavements or dicks on the roads with no lights in the dark.

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sounds as if you just have a predujice against car drivers to me.

Not at all -  just presenting an argument. I drive too, and as I stated there are a lot of eejit cyclists out there. I do call cyclists out for RLJ-ing occasionally, but all you get is abuse as the ones who do it are generally too arrogant to admit it's wrong, and I'm not really up for a fight in the middle of the road. I guess in Leeds at least it's not such a bit problem and drivers and cyclists tend to get along pretty well. I'd hate to be a cyclist (or a driver for that matter) in London where it's pretty much all out war and there's really outrageous behaviour on both 'sides'.

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I get pissed at cyclists who do nothing towards fostering an attitude of mutual respect and consideration between themselves and other road users.
You just get all a bit annoyed when they don't obey all the rules properly. Bless. Rest assured as I showed that they pose a much smaller risk on the roads to other road users than anything with an engine.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Andy42g on July 01, 2014, 12:43:50 PM
One for Andy:-

http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news/latest-news/4million-transform-leeds-cycle-friendly-city-128744
Was listening to Chris Boardman talk about this this morning on 5Live (may have been 4), and actually walked past him doing interviews outside the Town Hall this morning as I'd got the train in.
Looks nice.
Would be very good actually as atm riding along the Headrow there's a real pinch point where the buses (the double bendy ones) take up the whole road, so you get stuck amongst them, which is no fun.
I work on the Headrow, by the way, a few hundred metres up from the Town Hall.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Andy42g on July 01, 2014, 14:03:47 PM
TDF Boutique now gone up on the Headrow. One VERY nice Coq Sportive Yorkshire 2014 shirt for 62 Euros on sale - it must be nearly my birthday...
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Matt2112 on July 01, 2014, 14:13:02 PM
Much of Calderdale will be coming to a hysterical standstill on Sunday, when folk will be lining the roads from 5am for several hours for the sake of catching a passing glimpse of a bike race for 10 minutes.

I suppose the rest of us Calderdale residents who would like to go about their business around Hebden Bridge, Ripponden, Greetland, West Vale, outer Elland and Blackley will just have to put up with the draconian measures on access and movement being introduced by the council to whom we pay so much tax.  Fecking Radio Leeds banging on and on and on about it 24/7 ad nauseum as well.

Right load of bollocks.  Should be kept to France - the clue should be in the name.  ::)
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Andy42g on July 01, 2014, 14:36:56 PM
Much of Calderdale will be coming to a hysterical standstill on Sunday, when folk will be lining the roads from 5am for several hours for the sake of catching a passing glimpse of a bike race for 10 minutes.

I suppose the rest of us Calderdale residents who would like to go about their business around Hebden Bridge, Ripponden, Greetland, West Vale, outer Elland and Blackley will just have to put up with the draconian measures on access and movement being introduced by the council to whom we pay so much tax.  Fecking Radio Leeds banging on and on and on about it 24/7 ad nauseum as well.

Right load of bollocks.  Should be kept to France - the clue should be in the name.  ::)
Awww - bless.  :'(  :D
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: döm on July 01, 2014, 15:16:09 PM
Much of Calderdale will be coming to a hysterical standstill on Sunday, when folk will be lining the roads from 5am for several hours for the sake of catching a passing glimpse of a bike race for 10 minutes.

I suppose the rest of us Calderdale residents who would like to go about their business around Hebden Bridge, Ripponden, Greetland, West Vale, outer Elland and Blackley will just have to put up with the draconian measures on access and movement being introduced by the council to whom we pay so much tax.  Fecking Radio Leeds banging on and on and on about it 24/7 ad nauseum as well.

Right load of bollocks.  Should be kept to France - the clue should be in the name.  ::)

Really surprised by this reaction.  Why don't you just give into it and enjoy.  It's only 1 day after all
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on July 01, 2014, 15:42:58 PM
I think he may be being a little "northern" and having a moan.

Plus he wont even be there if I have read other threads correctly, but instead be at some sort of indie festival
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Matt2112 on July 01, 2014, 15:59:42 PM
I think he may be being a little "northern" and having a moan.

Plus he wont even be there if I have read other threads correctly, but instead be at some sort of indie festival

On my way back, so I'll miss a lot of it.  You got me.  ;D
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Fishy on July 01, 2014, 16:01:26 PM
On my way back, so I'll miss a lot of it.  You got me.  ;D

does Le Tour touch Hebden bridge  ?
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on July 01, 2014, 16:01:42 PM
just stalking you!
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Matt2112 on July 01, 2014, 16:14:39 PM
does Le Tour touch Hebden bridge  ?

Yes, it drops into Hebden Bridge.  I could tell, driving through it recently, by all the paper mache yellow bikes they've got displayed above every other shop front... ::)
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on July 01, 2014, 16:57:40 PM
should help with the suicide rate anyway, brighten up the place a bit

Do all the local lezzers like cycling?
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Matt2112 on July 01, 2014, 17:14:31 PM
should help with the suicide rate anyway, brighten up the place a bit

Do all the local lezzers like cycling?

Wouldn't know, I don't hang around those...um, parts... ::)
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Andy42g on July 02, 2014, 11:26:50 AM
.....all the paper mache yellow bikes they've got displayed above every other shop front... ::)
Weird. It's almost like people are enthusiastic about the whole thing ...   :)
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on July 02, 2014, 12:25:45 PM
Another drugs cheat caught today, wonderful timing an all that.....
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: The Letter R on July 02, 2014, 12:54:54 PM
But the point was that there were no consequences - were there? She went through a red light ... and nothing happened, apert from she annoyed some drivers who then made up scenarios in their head wherein the cyclist caused a traffic accident.
Indeed she went through a red light - and there were no consequences - seem to be forgetting she broke the law. What annoys many a motorist is that when they break the law they get points on their licence, bans etc.....if cyclists needed to have licences and were actually given points etc... for their law breaking actions then I wonder how many would jump lights then? If cyclists really want to be treated as equals on the road then obey the laws of the road they have every right to cycle on - that's all that is being asked. Cyclists can't bang on about cycle safety and then flout all the rules put there for road users safety. And please no arguements about drivers in steel boxes as Motorcyclists seem to manage to obey these laws and are as un-protected as cyclists - except those weird Pizza Delivery Guys on mopeds who seem to live in a parallel universe.....
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on July 02, 2014, 12:58:03 PM
A huge rise in careless cycling is caused by the current obsession with apps like Strava and mapmyride, where people are now racing to see who can get the fastest times on road/map segments, and as a result taking increased risks when they really don't have to
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Andy42g on July 02, 2014, 13:18:48 PM
Indeed she went through a red light - and there were no consequences - seem to be forgetting she broke the law.
No one's forgotten that she's broken the law.

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What annoys many a motorist is that when they break the law they get points on their licence, bans etc.....if cyclists needed to have licences and were actually given points etc... for their law breaking actions then I wonder how many would jump lights then?
I think the difference between might be the tons of steel round the driver, the powerful engine and the responsibility that goes with all that (oops - just done the steel box thing, and I see below you asked me not to).
And if I jump a red light, on my bike I can get done by the police just the same, because it would seem the rules of the road apply all round.
And drivers can get all these punishments and yet still jump red lights anyway.
I guess there are just people on the roads who take the chance, and I guess you just choose who annoys you when you see them doing it.  Drivers in the main choose cyclists. Why is that?

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If cyclists really want to be treated as equals on the road then obey the laws of the road they have every right to cycle on - that's all that is being asked.

That's right. And a lot of us do. And a lot of motorists don't.

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Cyclists can't bang on about cycle safety and then flout all the rules put there for road users safety.
You seem to be labelling all cyclists the same. Does every cyclist flout the rules? Err  - no. Does every motorist? No.

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And please no arguements about drivers in steel boxes
::) It's part of the discussion. Or do you just want to ignore that bit as it makes your argument seem better?

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as Motorcyclists seem to manage to obey these laws and are as un-protected as cyclists
Well that's a whole other argument, and if you want to go there you are welcome.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Andy42g on July 02, 2014, 13:19:54 PM
Another drugs cheat caught today, wonderful timing an all that.....
Well it's good he was caught.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: JonL on July 03, 2014, 06:59:58 AM
Are there not more bad cyclists simply because there are more cyclists? Obviously we notice the bad ones more.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on July 03, 2014, 09:48:18 AM
Agreed, more cars means more bad drivers, and the same applies to bikes

I think too many amateur riders are using cleats/clips for rides where they need to be more adaptable and foot on/off the pedals, I would not dream of riding in cleats if I was commuting in heavy traffic, and I consider myself to be a relatively decent/experienced rider these days (if you can call 20 months experienced!!!!)
As a result, a lot of riders don't like stopping or slowing down, especially at lights, as it means clipping in and out, which is tough at slow speed
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Matt2112 on July 03, 2014, 11:19:44 AM
Weird. It's almost like people are enthusiastic about the whole thing ...   :)

Aye. They're saddoes - you wouldn't catch me going to such great effort, seemingly disproportionate expense and travelling stupidly long distances for the sake of a couple of hours of spectacle.  Er, apart from the 20-odd times a year when I do.  ;D
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Andy42g on July 03, 2014, 13:17:53 PM
Agreed, more cars means more bad drivers, and the same applies to bikes
Yes . But the original argument was the apparent danger all these bad cyclists pose to drivers. Which has shown to be rather little. Drivers just seem to get pissed off by cyclists, which I guess is just the culture we live in where drivers seem to think they own the roads or something.

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I think too many amateur riders are using cleats/clips for rides where they need to be more adaptable and foot on/off the pedals, I would not dream of riding in cleats if I was commuting in heavy traffic, and I consider myself to be a relatively decent/experienced rider these days (if you can call 20 months experienced!!!!)
Hmmm. Have got a few people onto cleats (spds anyhow) recently as they are much better all round for cycling full stop. But yes if you are not happy with them keep them off your commuting bike.

Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Andy42g on July 03, 2014, 13:31:51 PM
LOADS going on in Leeds for the Grand Depart. Avoiding the TDF stall though as I will not be able to not buy a 64 Euro Coq Sportif riding top if I go anywhere near it.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on July 03, 2014, 13:49:15 PM
really wish I was popping up to watch
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Matt2112 on July 03, 2014, 15:07:29 PM
LOADS going on in Leeds for the Grand Depart. Avoiding the TDF stall though as I will not be able to not buy a 64 Euro Coq Sportif riding top if I go anywhere near it.

Well there you go.  Some sort of caravan parade lap thingy round Leeds tonight.  Meaning many major routes out of the city centre closed from 4pm to 10pm.  Still, it's only the thousands of city centre workers that will suffer! ::)

;)
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on July 03, 2014, 15:25:52 PM
Well there you go.  Some sort of caravan parade lap thingy round Leeds tonight.  Meaning many major routes out of the city centre closed from 4pm to 10pm.  Still, it's only the thousands of city centre workers that will suffer! ::)

;)
God, don't you Yorkshiremen whinge!!

It's a once in a lifetime thing is this! I was going to pop up to Leeds to watch the Grand Départ, but an empty wallet means I'll just have to walk into Sheffield on Sunday now.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Andy42g on July 03, 2014, 19:32:53 PM
Well there you go.  Some sort of caravan parade lap thingy round Leeds tonight.  Meaning many major routes out of the city centre closed from 4pm to 10pm.  Still, it's only the thousands of city centre workers that will suffer! ::)
And you were there watching? I bloody wasn't :(
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Matt2112 on July 03, 2014, 22:49:20 PM
God, don't you Yorkshiremen whinge!!

Nope, merely stating facts. :)

Yours,
A Nimby  :-*
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Matt2112 on July 03, 2014, 22:51:57 PM
And you were there watching? I bloody wasn't :(

Goodness, no.  I was out of the way over int Fax. :D
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Andy42g on July 03, 2014, 23:15:47 PM
Still, it's only the thousands of city centre workers that will suffer! ::)
They seem to be suffering mainly from being lucky enough to be in the city while this momentous occasion is happening as far as I can see - being one of them and all.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: pdw1 on July 03, 2014, 23:43:06 PM
Cambridge goes into lock down over the weekend for Monday.  I am really looking forward to it and booked the day off months ago. i am sure the city centre business will do very well out of all the crowds but the businesses on the outskirts will suffer.

Also the railway company has been clever enough to lay on extra trains to London in the afternoon so you can see the start in Cambridge then rush down to London to see the finish :)
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on July 04, 2014, 00:15:03 AM
Nope, merely stating facts. :)

No. You were whinging. Like a Yorkshireman.
You lot are only happy when you moan.
Something that's rubbed off on us in North Derbyshire...
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Andy42g on July 04, 2014, 11:39:46 AM
Also the railway company has been clever enough to lay on extra trains to London in the afternoon so you can see the start in Cambridge then rush down to London to see the finish :)
Don't speak to me about trains - Northern rail are in effect banning bikes from the trains here tomorrow.  >:( Yeah - so that's going to help people get to the Dales spots to watch...  ::)
Having said that I'll get on a train (without bike) into Leeds tomorrow with Jamie to see the start.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Andy42g on July 04, 2014, 20:30:28 PM
Film The Armstrong Lie is on Channel 4 on Monday - meant to be interesting. Also a Storyville on BBC (Sunday 9pm) about the man. Difficult to like him and even harder to respect him, but there's something remarkably compulsive about the fella and his life.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on July 05, 2014, 18:30:02 PM
Gutted 4 Cav.

Mrs S has only just stopped blubbing.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: döm on July 05, 2014, 18:49:08 PM
Amazing scenes on the hill top - bad luck for Cav
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Andy42g on July 05, 2014, 23:04:36 PM
Well - what a day that was. Good work Yorkshire.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: zoony on July 05, 2014, 23:17:58 PM
Gutted 4 Cav.



You can't be gutted for him, have you seen the rack on his missus?  :o.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: döm on July 05, 2014, 23:24:32 PM
Amazing scenes on the hill top - bad luck for Cav
.....

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Br0AHvlCMAEsTXR.jpg)
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: JonL on July 06, 2014, 07:34:09 AM
.....

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Br0AHvlCMAEsTXR.jpg)

I was going to go down for the day, but then I thought about the crowds, didn't anticipate those numbers though.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on July 06, 2014, 10:27:22 AM
I'm off to Sheffield today, perhaps should have stayed there after going to see Dr**m Th**t*r [s*c] last night.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: JonL on July 06, 2014, 11:04:53 AM
So, Cav is officially out, no surprise really. His own fault though. :-\
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on July 06, 2014, 11:36:53 AM
If it was going to happen to anybody, it was bound to be Cav!
He admits it was his fault. If he were a Soccerball player, he'd be blaming everybody but him.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Richard_2112 on July 06, 2014, 16:02:31 PM
A piece of grey Tarmac walks into a bar shouting:
"Anyone want a fight? Come on, I'll take anyone on!"
No one responds, so he buys a pint and quietly sits down.

Half an hour later, a piece of red Tarmac comes in screaming:
"Who wants to fight me? I can beat you all!"
No one responds, and he leaves the bar.

The bar man goes over to the grey Tarmac and says:
"I thought you wanted a fight, he was up for one?"
"Oh I wouldn't take him on," replied the grey Tarmac, "He's a total cyclepath."
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on July 06, 2014, 19:18:02 PM
What a great day out in Sheffield!! Never thought I'd say that!!!

Saw 5 seconds of racing, got 60 Thé Bags, a P&O keyring, a Yorkshire Building Society bag, a souvenir Tram Ticket, saw Dickie Bird and got sunstroke :)

Blink and you'll miss it...

http://youtu.be/Ich9VePsOpo

Green Jersey Presentation (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNMsSOXZgVQ&feature=share&list=UU33S7NvpwriwePt-xOkDU2g&index=3)
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Matt2112 on July 07, 2014, 10:07:17 AM
Well, what a resounding, overwhelming success TdF was for Yorkshire - have to say I've been extremely impressed with it all.  I am actually a little bit sad that I missed it but that was always going to be the case with it clashing with our trip to the Smoke.  At the very time our train from Kings Cross was pulling into Halifax (the town pretty much deserted) the riders were making their way through the streets where I grew up, so the best I could do was watch it on ITV1+1 when I got home.  I switched it on just in time to see them make their way through West Vale (referred to generally as Greetland by the commentary, not incorrectly) and it was bizarre seeing normally quiet roads crammed with folk and colour and activity.  The riders ascended a hill that's not easy to walk up at the best of times at a pretty remarkable pace and made it look stupidly easy, too.  Got to admire the quite mind-blowing level of fitness and endurance displayed by that lot.

I thought the scenes up at Holme Moss were pretty incredible as well and very glad the weather was absolutely perfect and the stunning views on that part of the Tour were there for all to see on't telly.

Later I looked at a couple of mobile phone videos filmed by Facebook friends at very familiar locations which demonstrated just how fast these guys are going - it looked like speeded-up footage, quite astonishing!

I know I've had a bit of a jest about it but it seems rather churlish now after that - so nice one, TdF, well played to all; please come back and I'll be waiting next time...!! :)
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: zoony on July 07, 2014, 12:33:12 PM
How can they call it the tour de France when the first 3 stages are in England? Is France no longer large enough to stage it?!
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Andy42g on July 07, 2014, 12:36:55 PM
Brilliant couple of days. 2 fine spots to stand for 3 hours; try to catch various bits of tat; watch all manner of van, lorries,  motorbikes, cars and briefly some cyclists whiz past. Sounds ridiculous but it was just great fun: fabulous atmospheres both days. Amazing community spirit, and the two village hubs we went to after were great. Most jealous of the people who got out on their bikes on the closed roads and up to the dales climbs, and i had a couple of mates who were in cars in the promo procession who were just stunned by the whole experience. Big group hug for the whole of Yorkshire really. We did good, and we looked rather excellent on the telly.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: zoony on July 07, 2014, 12:40:28 PM
Brilliant couple of days. 2 fine spots to stand for 3 hours; try to catch various bits of tat; watch all manner of van, lorries,  motorbikes, cars and briefly some cyclists whiz past. Sounds ridiculous but it was just great fun: fabulous atmospheres both days. Amazing community spirit, and the two village hubs we went to after were great. Most jealous of the people who got out on their bikes on the closed roads and up to the dales climbs, and i had a couple of mates who were in cars in the promo procession who were just stunned by the whole experience. Big group hug for the whole of Yorkshire really. We did good, and we looked rather excellent on the telly.

Sounds great....
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Andy42g on July 07, 2014, 12:49:12 PM
Sounds great....
It absolutely was. And there's exactly the same reaction from everyone up here who was anywhere near that race over the weekend. Truly extraordinary.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Andy42g on July 07, 2014, 13:50:05 PM
Some great pics of the 2 days
http://www.buzzfeed.com/scottybryan/ey-up-yorkshire
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: JonL on July 07, 2014, 14:06:47 PM
How can they call it the tour de France when the first 3 stages are in England? Is France no longer large enough to stage it?!

There have been many starts in other countries, and they sometimes slip in and out of neighbouring countries en route.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Matt2112 on July 07, 2014, 14:30:05 PM
Some great pics of the 2 days
http://www.buzzfeed.com/scottybryan/ey-up-yorkshire

Marvellous stuff.  :)
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Andy42g on July 07, 2014, 14:47:22 PM
There have been many starts in other countries, and they sometimes slip in and out of neighbouring countries en route.
Gives everyone else  a go - which is jolly nice of them. Utrecht in Belgium has got the start in 2015.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Thenop on July 07, 2014, 17:13:44 PM
Gives everyone else  a go - which is jolly nice of them. Utrecht in Belgium has got the start in 2015.

oi! Utrecht is in the Netherlands! >:(
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: NeilP on July 07, 2014, 17:30:46 PM
It's in Ypres this week I saw the publicity for it when I was over there last week.... well done Yorkshire, shame it should have been Scotland's ;)
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: zoony on July 07, 2014, 20:20:01 PM
There have been many starts in other countries, and they sometimes slip in and out of neighbouring countries en route.

They need to change the name of it then really.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: zoony on July 07, 2014, 20:22:24 PM
Some great pics of the 2 days
http://www.buzzfeed.com/scottybryan/ey-up-yorkshire

Saw a bit of it on the news tonight. Each to their own, but I couldn't get my head around standing about for hours just to see a group of push bikes go past in a few seconds.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on July 07, 2014, 20:25:33 PM
oi! Utrecht is in the Netherlands! >:(
Gah! Beaten to it!
It's the home of Dick Bruna amd in the caravan to advertise it, their cars had big Miffys perched on top.

And no Andy42G, that's not a sexist comment. Big Nijntjes might be though...
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Andy42g on July 07, 2014, 20:26:28 PM
Saw a bit of it on the news tonight. Each to their own, but I couldn't get my head around standing about for hours just to see a group of push bikes go past in a few seconds.
Have to say I would agree. But the was the TDF, and almost literally everyone bought into it up here - which is exactly what happens all round France and wherever else it touches down. Just an extraordinary experience for everyone, and of course WAY more than just a bike ride.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Andy42g on July 07, 2014, 20:27:42 PM
oi! Utrecht is in the Netherlands! >:(
Oops. Sorry.  :)
Actually I've been there briefly too.  ::)
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on July 07, 2014, 20:32:41 PM
Saw a bit of it on the news tonight. Each to their own, but I couldn't get my head around standing about for hours just to see a group of push bikes go past in a few seconds.
Trust me, it's great!
Mrs S thought it was great too, the fact that we saw the main peloton go by 7.5km from the finish and then saw them finish was unbelievable! That fact it was in a post-industrial wasteland on the edge of Sheffield was truly Kosmik!

It was a dream come true for me, I took a photo of every team bus. Saddo? Qui, moi?
Seeing Blel Kadri saying "Bonjour" to Dickie Bird is another of life's truly surreal moments, so glad I saw that.

I was on a real high yesterday, and today has been a great come down.

King of the Mountains Presentation (http://youtu.be/0jnLMnjrrj0[/url)

And the fact that it happened in God's own County - Derbyshire. Incroyable.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: zoony on July 07, 2014, 20:37:14 PM
Have to say I would agree. But the was the TDF, and almost literally everyone bought into it up here - which is exactly what happens all round France and wherever else it touches down. Just an extraordinary experience for everyone, and of course WAY more than just a bike ride.

I'm not knocking anyone who's into it, we all like what we like. Have to say if it went past the bottom of our road, it wouldn't get me off the sofa.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Andy42g on July 07, 2014, 20:38:39 PM
They need to change the name of it then really.
Yeah - that and the English Premier League. I guess they are all just thinking big.  ;)
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: zoony on July 07, 2014, 20:57:53 PM
Yeah - that and the English Premier League. I guess they are all just thinking big.  ;)

It might be mostly foreign players, but it's only played in England, so why change the name?
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on July 07, 2014, 21:55:17 PM
(http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u55/Nickslikk2112/Tour%20de%20France/P1050366_zps931e9c9c.jpg)
An old Battleaxe and a line of Battle Buses!
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on July 07, 2014, 21:56:20 PM
(http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u55/Nickslikk2112/Tour%20de%20France/P1050429_zps2e96afbf.jpg)
Dickie!!!
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on July 08, 2014, 09:34:06 AM
It might be mostly foreign players, but it's only played in England, so why change the name?

Have Cardiff and Swansea moved grounds then?
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: pdw1 on July 08, 2014, 21:45:28 PM
It might be mostly foreign players, but it's only played in England, so why change the name?
Swansea, Cardiff  ::)
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on July 08, 2014, 21:47:25 PM
Yeah - that and the English Premier League. I guess they are all just thinking big.  ;)
But it isn't the English Premier League, it's just the Premier League.
Like the FA - sweet old FA - it doesn't need the qualifier English.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on July 08, 2014, 21:52:32 PM
I'm not knocking anyone who's into it, we all like what we like. Have to say if it went past the bottom of our road, it wouldn't get me off the sofa.
Horses for courses, but give me the TdF over the World Cup any day.
Yes the cyclists may be ripped off their tits on the latest designer drugs, but that's good honest cheating, not like all the cynical diving that goes in in Soccerball.
To illustrate how cycling is superior to Soccerball, just remember Carlton Palmer - Carlton Bloody Palmer! - played international Soccerball!!!!
If Carlton had been a cyclist, he'd be riding round the playground on a pink Hello Kitty tricycle.

Going to see the Tour was the second best sporting experience of my life,  after Derbyshire's B&H win in 1993, better than my wedding day was that, as I remind Mrs S every year.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: pdw1 on July 09, 2014, 00:51:25 AM
From the telegraph

(http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02967/080714-MATT-web_2967415a.jpg)
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Andy42g on July 09, 2014, 13:18:25 PM
From the telegraph
(http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02967/080714-MATT-web_2967415a.jpg)
::)
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: döm on July 09, 2014, 13:32:15 PM
Horses for courses, but give me the TdF over the World Cup any day.
Yes the cyclists may be ripped off their tits on the latest designer drugs, but that's good honest cheating, not like all the cynical diving that goes in in Soccerball.
To illustrate how cycling is superior to Soccerball, just remember Carlton Palmer - Carlton Bloody Palmer! - played international Soccerball!!!!
If Carlton had been a cyclist, he'd be riding round the playground on a pink Hello Kitty tricycle.

Going to see the Tour was the second best sporting experience of my life,  after Derbyshire's B&H win in 1993, better than my wedding day was that, as I remind Mrs S every year.

Takes me back - the days when tobacco companies were able to sponsor sport.  Rothmans this, Embassy that, Benson & hedges the other - all seems so long ago now
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: zoony on July 09, 2014, 20:31:18 PM
Have Cardiff and Swansea moved grounds then?

Bollocks, I totally forgot bout the sheep shaggers. I was only trying to wind the crackpot up.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on July 09, 2014, 23:34:44 PM
Brutal day today!
Poor old Froomey, thought he was probably hurt more badly than they let on yesterday. Looks like Nibali's to lose already!
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on July 10, 2014, 09:24:17 AM
Didn't look well when they were spooning him into the back of the team car.

In the good old days it used to be a truck/wagon type thing that followed at the back of the Tour that swept up the fallers and failures. I guess things have become a bit more human these days

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broom_wagon

Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on July 10, 2014, 20:20:46 PM
I think there still is, one came in on Sunday following the last strags in.

I'd have given up on Tuesday if I were him. I'm struggling at the moment 'cos I've put the end of my right thumb out and it hurts like buggery to change gear with it...
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on July 11, 2014, 09:14:05 AM
When I had my wrist rebuilt last January getting back on the bike was a major step, so much pressure through that part of the body, especially when climbing
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: zoony on July 11, 2014, 20:27:39 PM
When I had my wrist rebuilt last January getting back on the bike was a major step, so much pressure through that part of the body, especially when climbing

How did you damage your wrist then mate, or is that basement material  ;).
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on July 12, 2014, 23:43:29 PM
Thumb end has clicked back in place, but a week out of the saddle at my age has put me right back again. Ho-hum.

First real GC day in the Tour today in real Yorkshire weather - now they're back in France - c***ador got just a nibble into Nibali's lead.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Bez on July 13, 2014, 00:34:53 AM

First real GC day in the Tour today in real Yorkshire weather - now they're back in France - c***ador got just a nibble into Nibali's lead.

Is it just me, or does anyone else dislike Contador...?
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on July 13, 2014, 10:15:18 AM
Is it just me, or does anyone else dislike Contador...?
Apart from himself, everybody dislikes c***awhore!
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Muppet on July 13, 2014, 20:02:17 PM
Tony Gallopin took yellow today but what caught my eye was the reception he got when he finished.  His lass is quite easy on the eye eh?

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BscH7v-IIAA0q-0.jpg)

A bit of googling tells me its Marion Rouse, who is also a pro rider

(http://37.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m7ge3uZmTN1r19drmo1_1280.png)

Anyways, I think I'm in love!

(http://www.sports-extremes.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/marion-rousse-02-400x301.jpg)

Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on July 13, 2014, 20:19:36 PM
Yes,  I noticed that too! :)

Mrs S noticed I noticed... :(
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: NeilP on July 13, 2014, 20:32:05 PM
Get it right, it's Marion Rousse  ;)

(http://img836.imageshack.us/img836/435/27480556.jpg)
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Muppet on July 13, 2014, 21:02:53 PM
Get it right, it's Marion Rousse  ;)

Do we really care?  :P
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: zoony on July 14, 2014, 08:51:37 AM
The basement will be back at the rate  :).
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Straight Shooter on July 14, 2014, 10:35:25 AM
The basement will be back at the rate  :).
Oh aye Rob, all of a sudden cycling got you off the sofa after all  ;)  :P
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on July 14, 2014, 23:32:44 PM
So, has Nibali been stealing c***awhore's steaks?
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on July 15, 2014, 09:20:30 AM
Broken leg for the Cont

Rode on for 12 miles with it
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on July 27, 2014, 21:49:27 PM
Another TdF over :(

Wonder if Nibali has been eating special steaks? Would have been nice to see him challenged more, but it has been a good race.

Au Revoir to Jens Voight.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on July 28, 2014, 09:15:22 AM
Nice interview with Jens Voight on last nights highlights, lovely seeing them belting past the Louvre pyramid (which oddly enough as I turned off the highlights was showing on telly on the Da Vinci code)

Nice comments from the commentators basically saying it will quickly be forgotten who he didn't beat, but instead who he did, and what a gruelling race it was. I concur with that, if someone wins because the race was too hard for the favourites, then more power to him, and he has won all 3 grand tours now

A worthy winner, and a good event this year
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: döm on July 28, 2014, 09:40:08 AM
Marvellous to see 2 Frenchmen in the top 3 and a 3rd just missing out on 5th by 2 seconds.  With Pinot and Bardet so far ahead in the young person's race, it really seems like there may be a bit of a renaissance in French cycling.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on July 28, 2014, 20:12:24 PM
Don't they reckon Pinot is going to Sky?
Brailsford wants to deliver the next French winner.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on July 29, 2014, 09:07:39 AM
I did hear that rumour, plus its a huge kudos (see what I did there?) for SKY too

Interesting times for SKY, this Tour showed that behind Froome and less so Wiggins now there is no real natural leader, and assuming Wiggo does stop the Gran Tours as predicted, either Richie Porte needs to step up, or they need to recruit

I understand Froome may be doing the Vuelta, especially now Contador isn't and Nibali won the TdF
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: döm on July 29, 2014, 10:42:17 AM
Don't they reckon Pinot is going to Sky?
Brailsford wants to deliver the next French winner.

He wouldn't be above Froome in the pecking order though would he.  Would he want to join a team where he wouldn't be the leader ?
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on July 29, 2014, 23:31:33 PM
He wouldn't be above Froome in the pecking order though would he.  Would he want to join a team where he wouldn't be the leader ?
Because he's still young, just 24. Froome's 29.
If Froome and Contador hadn't crashed out he most probably wouldn't have been on the podium. A couple of years as Froome's lieutenant would do him a world of good.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on July 30, 2014, 09:20:00 AM
Agreed, looks a good climber too

Im still getting into my cycling as a spectator sport, so this tour was great fun

Couple of things I noticed, SKY looked woefully berefy of talent once Froome had retired. While having the TT last but one did effect certain podium positions, I think the race could have beneftted from one earlier in the race too

And what a wanker the presenter Gary Imlach on ITV was/is
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on July 30, 2014, 21:47:44 PM
I don't actually mind Gary Imlach, but I've been watching the tour for so long that I'm probably immune to him now...
I enjoy Ned and Chris Boardman's little interludes. I must get a life.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on August 03, 2014, 21:52:46 PM
Well done to Geraint Thomas in the Commonwealth games Road Race. He deserved that.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: NeilP on August 03, 2014, 23:05:27 PM
Peter Kennaugh might disagree though
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on August 03, 2014, 23:40:19 PM
Went waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy too early.

Needed company in those conditions.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Norwegian on August 20, 2014, 14:27:14 PM
World Champion in 2010, green jersey winner in TdF in 2005 and 2009,  and 10 times  stage winner in TdF, Thor Hushovd, retired from cycling last Sunday

Thanks for all the fun, he has done lot´s for the present and future of cycling in Norway
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on August 20, 2014, 15:19:57 PM
I wish I lived somewhere it was OK to call your Kids Thor!!!
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Bez on August 20, 2014, 23:01:12 PM
Vuelta starts soon....looking forward to it
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on August 21, 2014, 09:14:10 AM
Froome and Contador back I believe

Few less pleasant headlines this week, drugs and bribery/corruption, and that ring piece Armstrong still getting column inches too
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on September 08, 2014, 23:36:02 PM
Do I not like Contador.

Nice bit of fighting though today :)
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on September 09, 2014, 09:16:32 AM
Ive got VIP for stage 4 start in WOrcester
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on September 24, 2014, 23:28:44 PM
Well done Wiggo! Just when you think he's all washed up.
I dare say not doing a Grand Tour has worked in his favour.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on September 25, 2014, 09:51:40 AM
I may be wrong, I often am, but I think the days when individual cyclists like Merkx dominate proceedings year on year are gone.

I imagine the standard of your average cyclist has improved beyond measure, due to training, nutrition, kit, drugs, science etc, so while the usual names trip off the tongue when discussing the Grande Tours, there is a whole host of individuals who are capable of winning events.

What this does show however is that Wiggo, even in the twilight of his career, is a very, very talented rider
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Norwegian on October 16, 2014, 10:11:49 AM
Thor Hushovd´s autobiography was released yesterday, he says that Armstrong told him about his drug use 1 1/2 year before he admitted it the the rest of the world.

He told everyone in the business Thor says, and Armstrong believed everyone took drugs..
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on October 16, 2014, 10:57:15 AM
Yep, read that earlier.

I imagine "everyone" probably did, but not to the degree Armstrong and others with big budgets did.

In his last few tour wins Armstrong was having multiple blood transfusions if you believe Tyler Hamilton's book
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: NeilP on October 16, 2014, 23:48:29 PM
hmmm

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cycling/29647353
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on October 17, 2014, 09:58:35 AM
oops
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Norwegian on October 17, 2014, 11:39:24 AM
Pro cycling is a joke when it comes to drug use
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on October 24, 2014, 11:46:43 AM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b048wq0z

Watched this earlier this week

WHAT A CNUT!!!!!
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on November 04, 2014, 10:31:32 AM
Blimey.

Chris Boadman has stirred up a hornets nest about cycle safety and helmets. basically saying helmets almost irrelevant, need to stop the accidents rather than putting a sticking plaster on afterwards.

If nothing else it has raised the profile of cycle safety, which is a good thing
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on November 27, 2014, 09:27:31 AM
WTF are ASTANA playing at?

Another one done for drugs
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on December 09, 2014, 12:59:02 PM
Oh dear, Michel Ferrari associated with Astana now

The plot thickens......
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Thenop on December 09, 2014, 19:05:11 PM
What do we really expect here? The team is run by Vinokoerov… The man was a cycling pharmacy, the only way he knew how to perform was on dope.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on June 07, 2015, 21:52:47 PM
Well done Wiggo on the hour record. Think I could do it in two...
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: pdw1 on June 07, 2015, 23:32:11 PM
days?
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on June 07, 2015, 23:40:24 PM
Hours. Not including the ten minute rest every fifteen minutes...
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: NeilP on June 08, 2015, 07:41:53 AM
fantastic achievement tho still 2 kph behind Boardman's record I witnessed in Manchester almost twenty year back mind you... surprised that Wiggins didn't mention it
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Bez on July 11, 2015, 23:39:31 PM
Anyone else watching the TdF highlights....Froome starting to look very comfortable
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on July 12, 2015, 10:19:04 AM
Yes, I'm watching. Don't speak too soon Big Guy...

Could be Tejay Van Garderen in yellow after today's Team Time Trial.

Nibali looks completely out of it, maybe Astana are competing as a clean team this year...
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on July 12, 2015, 20:25:09 PM
Could be Tejay Van Garderen in yellow after today's Team Time Trial.
O me of little faith...
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: döm on July 13, 2015, 10:14:13 AM
Nicholas Roche (son of Stephen) does an excellent blog in the Irish Independent as he slogs around France.

Really good if you want to get a riders' perspective on the race

Here is his latest, covering Saturday and Sunday's stages....

http://www.independent.ie/sport/other-sports/cycling/nicolas-roche-all-i-can-think-of-is-i-just-missed-a-stage-win-at-the-tour-de-france-31371336.html
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on July 14, 2015, 23:25:41 PM
So, what's Froome on then?
Whatever it is, it must rot your brain, because you wouldn't make things that obvious!

Nibali and Contador are certainly not on what they used to be on - if they were on anything.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: NeilP on July 15, 2015, 00:25:28 AM
I'll try and add a little science to the argument. Chris Froome's Functional Power Threshold (the wattage he can put out for one hour) is between 5.8w/kg and 6w/kg.

Today's climb was just under the hour and for the majority of it Froome was able to sit in the slipstream of a train of riders in front of him - saving circa 25% of his power at the speeds they were travelling at. By rough estimates (I don't know what his actual time up the final 26 km climb was) he would have put out between 5.5w/kg and 6w/kg for the climb, probably towards the lower end of that.

The dopers of yesteryear were putting out closer to 7w/kg on long Alpine climbs. Froome's effort was between 15% and 20% off those efforts from Armstrong and Ullrich etc. To put that in perspective, Quintana's power output in losing a minute would have been circa just 0.1w/kg lower than Froome's (or less than 1% off of the Englishman's effort.).

The numbers on the face of it don't suggest anything untoward and bear in mind there was a tailwind as well so times would have been fast anyway.

So sad that the immediate reaction from some is "cheat".

Over the last 14km he would have averaged close to 5.7w/kg if he had ridden solo but spent half of that saving watts in the peloton. Really nothing suspicious. I'd be more amused at how much some well known riders of yesteryear have apparently slowed so dramatically....the likes of Contador used to be able to climb at 6.5w/kg to 7w/kg before the testers started being a little more conscientious
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Post by: Jonners on July 15, 2015, 09:37:03 AM
Great post Neil

It doesn't even compare in ridiculousness to the famous Armstrong climb where he decimated the field while looking over his shoulder

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdMdJAdzpYQ

Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: döm on July 15, 2015, 09:50:55 AM
You're probably right about Froome but this will always happen in cycling.  It will be forever tainted by the drug cheats and whenever someone performs particularly strongly Armstrong's shadow will loom large.

Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on July 15, 2015, 12:14:34 PM
As Neil said, its all about power and wattage these days, and marginal gains

Froome had most of his team around him for the race, and about half for the climb, which to be fair to the riders looked absolutely torrid.

But when push comes to shove, if you are generating more power than your opponent when your bikes and weight/mass are roughly the same, you will win.
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Post by: Bez on July 15, 2015, 13:59:55 PM
Looking forward to watching today's stage (working from home)....I hope its an anti-climax.... ;)
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on July 15, 2015, 15:07:27 PM
Much as I loathe the guy, Lance Armstrong handled himself nicely on Twitter about it all
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on July 15, 2015, 21:17:50 PM
I'll try and add a little science to the argument. Chris Froome's Functional Power Threshold (the wattage he can put out for one hour) is between 5.8w/kg and 6w/kg.

Today's climb was just under the hour and for the majority of it Froome was able to sit in the slipstream of a train of riders in front of him - saving circa 25% of his power at the speeds they were travelling at. By rough estimates (I don't know what his actual time up the final 26 km climb was) he would have put out between 5.5w/kg and 6w/kg for the climb, probably towards the lower end of that.

The dopers of yesteryear were putting out closer to 7w/kg on long Alpine climbs. Froome's effort was between 15% and 20% off those efforts from Armstrong and Ullrich etc. To put that in perspective, Quintana's power output in losing a minute would have been circa just 0.1w/kg lower than Froome's (or less than 1% off of the Englishman's effort.).

The numbers on the face of it don't suggest anything untoward and bear in mind there was a tailwind as well so times would have been fast anyway.

So sad that the immediate reaction from some is "cheat".

Over the last 14km he would have averaged close to 5.7w/kg if he had ridden solo but spent half of that saving watts in the peloton. Really nothing suspicious. I'd be more amused at how much some well known riders of yesteryear have apparently slowed so dramatically....the likes of Contador used to be able to climb at 6.5w/kg to 7w/kg before the testers started being a little more conscientious
Nice Answer.

I think the question should be "What was Nibali doing last year that he isn't now"
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on July 16, 2015, 09:23:42 AM
Agreed

What perhaps the doubters should have focussed on is how, with even more scrutiny and testing, so many "superstars" like Nibali, Contador, Quintana etc suddenly started going backwards!

Team Sky are trying to portray a clean image, but they do keep making blunders, an article in the Telegraph today that one of Armstrongs Soigneurs from the Postal Service is currently working there
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Post by: NeilP on July 16, 2015, 10:07:44 AM
This guy is having an amazing tour, just wonder how far he could go if he wasn't supporting Froome?

http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/racing/tour-de-france/geraint-thomas-fifth-in-tour-despite-working-for-froome-182504
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on July 16, 2015, 11:21:09 AM
He looks very strong indeed. Still young, I imagine he will be the next cab on the rank when Froome packs it all in
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Post by: döm on July 16, 2015, 16:00:14 PM
He looks very strong indeed. Still young, I imagine he will be the next cab on the rank when Froome packs it all in

Reminds me of the year Wiggins won and at times it felt that Froome was actually the stronger rider.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Bez on July 16, 2015, 16:46:36 PM
Reminds me of the year Wiggins won and at times it felt that Froome was actually the stronger rider.

Not sure he's got the explosive climbing ability of Froome, but definitely looking strong if the Kenyan born Brit has to drop out.... ;)
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Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on July 18, 2015, 21:24:56 PM
I see that someone has supposedly chucked a cup of piss at Froome.
Typical racist continentals, just because he's African...
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Post by: pdw1 on July 19, 2015, 00:22:08 AM
Cavendish got it a couple of years ago.
It is just a strange local ritual marking out territory.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: NeilP on July 19, 2015, 00:40:45 AM
he'll be fine as long as the piss wasn't Lance's
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: pdw1 on July 19, 2015, 09:57:29 AM
he'll be fine as long as the piss wasn't Lance's
;D
and what was Lance Armstrong doing in the crowd?
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on July 19, 2015, 14:24:10 PM
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Thibaut Pinot is first over the category four Col du Bez.

Bez, only a Fourth Category?
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Post by: Bez on July 19, 2015, 14:39:45 PM
Bez, only a Fourth Category?

 ;D, diet is going well.....
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on July 20, 2015, 23:27:13 PM
Chapeau - or at least a new helmet - for Geraint Thomas today. That was some coming off the road!
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: NeilP on July 21, 2015, 01:52:50 AM
he's Welsh... he'll be fine
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on July 21, 2015, 10:43:13 AM
he is very lucky!

if ever there was an advert for wearing a helmet.....
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Post by: Bez on July 21, 2015, 18:07:09 PM
Lost his glasses though.....

I was terrified when I saw him go off....couldn't believe it when they said he was only 49 seconds behind.....
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: pdw1 on July 21, 2015, 20:22:27 PM
he is very lucky!

if ever there was an advert for wearing a helmet.....
I doubt a helmet would have been much help if he had headbutted it full on.
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Post by: Jonners on July 22, 2015, 11:39:29 AM
No, but that's not what they are made for, broken necks are a different story
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on July 25, 2015, 15:39:27 PM
And start breathing again...
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Post by: pdw1 on July 25, 2015, 16:21:58 PM
Incredible stuff today.  Is there any world sporting event that matches the tour de France in the mountains where the crowd can get so up close and personal with the racers as they they race?  A sea of people parted by the cyclists.

Well done Frome.
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Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on July 25, 2015, 18:05:42 PM
Well done Frome.
He's from Kenya, not Zummerzet ;)

That inspired me to go out for a couple of hours on my bike, I'm now knackered after 30 miles! I did have the 250ft cote de Mastin Moor to ascend though...
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: pdw1 on July 25, 2015, 18:41:28 PM
Sorry used up all up ohs while watching the final climb.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on July 25, 2015, 21:23:09 PM
Sorry used up all up ohs while watching the final climb.
Garden Ohs? Panty Ohs?
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: NeilP on July 26, 2015, 00:10:29 AM
comfortably managed stage by Sky today, they're disliked because they're winners... great stuff Froome... buy Ritchie Porte ad G a beer soon
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: döm on July 26, 2015, 09:28:40 AM
Well done Froome and Sky, great effort by Quintana too.  I think Froome won thanks to how well his team managed the first week of the tour.  That gave him the seconds that kept his adversaries at arm length.


Delighted for Pinot yesterday.  He had such a tough start and nearly pulled out on a couple of occasions due to injury.  Fair play to him and his perseverence.

The Alps were pretty good from a French perspective with strong performances form Bardet and Rolland, as well as Pinot.

Off for a 50k spin up the Hill of Tara and back now, (in the rain unfortunately) so I'll get a good feel of what it's like to go up the Croix de Fer and the Alpe d'Huez  ;).  Wish me luck!
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Bez on July 26, 2015, 11:31:51 AM
Watched yesterday's live feed this morning, fantastic stuff....Richie Porte redeemed himself after a poor few days and a special mention to Wouter Poels over the past two days. He's been exceptional since Thomas "blew up"
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: NeilP on July 26, 2015, 12:46:25 PM
I believe that Porte has been ill for most of the past week
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on July 27, 2015, 09:44:54 AM
Did a simulation of Alpe d'huez on a Watt bike a wile back (minus a baying crowd throwing piss and spitting)

Unbelievably hard, and I hadn't done 100km before tackling it either

Genuinely thought my heart was going to burst out of my chest at one point
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: DavidL on July 27, 2015, 14:08:09 PM
Did a simulation of Alpe d'huez on a Watt bike a wile back (minus a baying crowd throwing piss and spitting)

Unbelievably hard, and I hadn't done 100km before tackling it either

Genuinely thought my heart was going to burst out of my chest at one point
Did the Alpe back in '96 on my old Raleigh Record Sprint - about 1hr 10mins if my memory serves me well (bit quicker coming down)
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Bez on September 03, 2015, 13:22:51 PM
Froome out of the Vuelta with a broken foot, which is a shame because it was building nicely....

He says he was "knocked sideways" into the barrier at the side of the road....that sounds a bit suspicious to me

Its some performance for that to happen within 2 kms of the start of the stage and still finish. Cyclists are hard bastards, even if there's still doubt over how many of them use drugs to cheat...
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: pdw1 on September 03, 2015, 18:51:59 PM
Froome out of the Vuelta with a broken foot, which is a shame because it was building nicely....

He says he was "knocked sideways" into the barrier at the side of the road....that sounds a bit suspicious to me

Its some performance for that to happen within 2 kms of the start of the stage and still finish. Cyclists are hard bastards, even if there's still doubt over how many of them use drugs to cheat...

They are aren't they. Didnt one carry on after a fall in this years tour with a broken rib sticking out?
And as for the guy who was pushed into the barbed wire fence by a car but still completed the tour..... :o
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Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on September 03, 2015, 20:19:11 PM
Cyclists are hard bastards,
Except for me...
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even if there's still doubt over how many of them use drugs to cheat...
Probably fewer than do in Athletics...
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Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on September 03, 2015, 20:21:56 PM
And as for the guy who was pushed into the barbed wire fence by a car but still completed the tour..... :o
Juan Antonio Flecha wasn't it?

Geraint Thomas completed the Tour with a fractured hip a couple of years back too.
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Post by: andyhaines on September 10, 2015, 20:29:08 PM
Froome out of the Vuelta with a broken foot, which is a shame because it was building nicely....

He says he was "knocked sideways" into the barrier at the side of the road....that sounds a bit suspicious to me

Its some performance for that to happen within 2 kms of the start of the stage and still finish. Cyclists are hard bastards, even if there's still doubt over how many of them use drugs to cheat...
I think the whole "cyclists perform better on drugs" thing is a load of bollocks. One day last year I cycled 26 miles, then drank 7 pints of Kronenburg on an empty stomach. Not only was my performance not enhanced, but I also crashed my bike on the way home...
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Post by: Bez on September 11, 2015, 07:23:53 AM
I think the whole "cyclists perform better on drugs" thing is a load of bollocks. One day last year I cycled 26 miles, then drank 7 pints of Kronenburg on an empty stomach. Not only was my performance not enhanced, but I also crashed my bike on the way home...

 ;D Maybe that explains Froome's early exit....I didn't see him wearing a Floyd cycling top though....

The Vuelta is really interesting, with Tom Dumoulin in red and only 2 stages where the climbers can distance him....a stunning ride yesterday where Aru threw everything at him up the final climb and he just sat on his wheel...
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Post by: Fishy on September 11, 2015, 13:30:39 PM
In a restraunt last night that had Wiggo,s bike he used to win the Tour de France..apparently he,s been spotted a couple of times recently in the place..hence no doubt the ensalada de Wiggins.....on the menu
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on November 20, 2015, 14:35:02 PM
I was posting to a cycling thread at rushmessageboard.com, but the whole board has gone tits up again. I think I'll continue here.

Dry and a bit cold, but colder tomorrow apparently and anyway I'm on call, so I went out and did one of my usual routes, 12.79 miles. Cycled past Sence Valley Forest park, where the poor girl's body was found a couple of days ago. It's only about a mile from here. Purple ribbons on the gates, and on one or two of the houses. Very sad.

Hit my 2015 target of 2112 miles in October, but I'm informally aiming for 2500 this year. 2386 done now, 110 this month.

In other news I've acquired some bright green cycling shoes as an occasional change from my black Shimanos. Bit tighter. Better keep my toenails clipped.
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Post by: Slim on November 21, 2015, 14:10:41 PM
Beautifully sunny day but bloody cold. Snow on the car as I opened the garage door.

Took the hybrid out for a spin, 16.85 miles. Coleorton, Griffydam, Belton and back along Top Brand. The cold wind on my face and round my toes nearly had me giving up in the first couple of miles, but it became more tolerable. My toes were like blocks of ice when I got back, though. I know cycling shoes are supposed to be well ventilated but I could actually feel the chilly air blowing round my socks.

127 done this month, 2403 this year.
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Post by: döm on November 21, 2015, 18:28:19 PM
Beautifully sunny day but bloody cold. Snow on the car as I opened the garage door.

Took the hybrid out for a spin, 16.85 miles. Coleorton, Griffydam, Belton and back along Top Brand. The cold wind on my face and round my toes nearly had me giving up in the first couple of miles, but it became more tolerable. My toes were like blocks of ice when I got back, though. I know cycling shoes are supposed to be well ventilated but I could actually feel the chilly air blowing round my socks.

127 done this month, 2403 this year.

You could do with a pair of overshoes from the sounds of it!  What software do youi use to track your spins?  I use Runtastic which is pretty good but I'd like something better/
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Post by: DavidL on November 21, 2015, 21:33:53 PM
You could do with a pair of overshoes from the sounds of it!  What software do youi use to track your spins?  I use Runtastic which is pretty good but I'd like something better/
Neoprene overshoes are worth trying but my circulation is so poor that I always suffer unless it's high summer. Anything faster than a moderate pace and my feet suffer.
Should be out tomorrow unless we have frost. I'll be wrapping up.
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Post by: Straight Shooter on November 21, 2015, 22:13:44 PM
Neoprene overshoes are worth trying but my circulation is so poor that I always suffer unless it's high summer. Anything faster than a moderate pace and my feet suffer.
Should be out tomorrow unless we have frost. I'll be wrapping up.
You'd be better off staying indoors and practising at Scrabble...  :-X  ;)
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: NeilP on November 21, 2015, 22:22:01 PM
Neoprene overshoes are worth trying but my circulation is so poor that I always suffer unless it's high summer. Anything faster than a moderate pace and my feet suffer.
Should be out tomorrow unless we have frost. I'll be wrapping up.

+1 ... on the neoprene
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on November 21, 2015, 23:59:34 PM
You could do with a pair of overshoes from the sounds of it!  What software do youi use to track your spins?  I use Runtastic which is pretty good but I'd like something better/

I don't really track them .. once or twice I've used Strava on the phone, and that works well. But I only really care about the distance. I have a Mio GPS unit on the road bike, and a basic magnet sensor bike computer on the hybrid (which is actually a bit more accurate than the GPS - I've calibrated it very anally). The Mio does store the routes you take but on the rare occasion when I haven't actually planned the route, I can always work out where I've been. I record the distance when I get back each time on a spreadsheet in Google Drive.

This site is very good for route planning - http://www.bikehike.co.uk/mapview.php

Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: DavidL on November 22, 2015, 00:17:37 AM
I don't really track them .. once or twice I've used Strava on the phone, and that works well. But I only really care about the distance. I have a Mio GPS unit on the road bike, and a basic magnet sensor bike computer on the hybrid (which is actually a bit more accurate than the GPS - I've calibrated it very anally). The Mio does store the routes you take but on the rare occasion when I haven't actually planned the route, I can always work out where I've been. I record the distance when I get back each time on a spreadsheet in Google Drive.

This site is very good for route planning - http://www.bikehike.co.uk/mapview.php
The only thing I'm interested in is total distance and average speed so the Cat-Eye Micro Wireles on the bike does me just fine.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: DavidL on November 22, 2015, 00:22:17 AM
You'd be better off staying indoors and practising at Scrabble...  :-X  ;)
;D
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: DavidL on November 22, 2015, 13:24:23 PM
31 miles this morning. Enjoyable but cold toes and fingertips - took an hour for my toes to thaw out!
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on November 22, 2015, 13:59:32 PM
To Staffordshire through Warwickshire, then back into Warwickshire and back into NW Leicestershire. Cold but actually quite pleasant in the sun, until the dark grey clouds rolled over. Fingers were getting a bit too numb and tingly to change gear by the end.

(http://truth.justdied.com/images/warks.jpg)

(http://truth.justdied.com/images/staffs.jpg)

Had to stop for a wee on a quiet lane between Measham and Swepstone. There were no witnesses.

24.65 miles. 152 done this month, 2427 this year.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on November 23, 2015, 16:59:49 PM
Did a regular route of mine on the road bike, the Belton Figure Of Eight, taking in Swannington, Griffydam and Belton. Cold again of course, but dry and not unpleasant. Not too blowy. Back just in time; I should have had lights on for the last ten minutes really.

16.28 miles.  168 in November, 2444 in 2015.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: zoony on November 24, 2015, 09:40:31 AM
Andy42G will be making a comeback if he hears of the renewed interest in this thread.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on November 24, 2015, 10:15:48 AM
Neoprene overshoes are good, or some people use the waterproof socks instead of normal socks, which are windproof so do a similar job.

I would go neoprene myself, as they protect the shoes.

You can just about see the overshoes (planet X) in this pic taken today, raised over £13k for a very worthy cause


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CUkdbfEWIAAF9Dh.jpg


I use Strava, linked to my Garmin Edge 810, which also measures cadence, heart rate and distance with the wheel magnet, rather than GPS. Strava is free and has some nice touches, and is very good for planning routes and meeting local riders too.

Sneaking into Warwickshire James! We must repel borders at all cost!!!!
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: DavidL on November 24, 2015, 14:20:06 PM
To Staffordshire through Warwickshire, then back into Warwickshire and back into NW Leicestershire.

24.65 miles. 152 done this month, 2427 this year.
I think I could also do a 'tri-county' ride in about 25 miles. For me it would be Oxfordshire, Gloucestershire, Wiltshire. Could possibly do Oxon, Glos and Warwickshire too (might take a few more miles though)
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on November 24, 2015, 17:06:20 PM
I could actually do a quad county quite easily in about 26 miles, providing I can evade Jonners and the Warwickshire Home Guard, of course - the Staffordshire / Leicestershire border is only 2km long, and it touches both Derbyshire and Warwickshire as well. I've already done the Derbyshire border trip (only a few miles from here) or I would have included it on Sunday.

The three remaining neighbouring counties I have yet to cycle to from my garage door are Rutland, Lincolnshire and Northapmptonshire. I'd like to tick those boxes as well but each involves roughly a 70 mile round trip. Will have a go next year.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on November 24, 2015, 17:28:17 PM
I could actually do a quad county quite easily in about 26 miles, providing I can evade Jonners and the Warwickshire Home Guard, of course - the Staffordshire / Leicestershire border is only 2km long, and it touches both Derbyshire and Warwickshire as well. I've already done the Derbyshire border trip (only a few miles from here) or I would have included it on Sunday.

The three remaining neighbouring counties I have yet to cycle to from my garage door are Rutland, Lincolnshire and Northapmptonshire. I'd like to tick those boxes as well but each involves roughly a 70 mile round trip. Will have a go next year.

Some nice riding around Northants, we do a Sportive each year called the Cobbler classic which begins around Towcester and takes in the surrounds, including Silverstone
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on November 25, 2015, 10:54:31 AM
Doing this on Sunday, should be a pleasant enough spin out

http://www.ukcyclingevents.co.uk/events/snowball-spinner-sportive-2015/#event_booking

Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on November 28, 2015, 12:30:56 PM
Did an extended version of a familiar route through Ibstock, Heather, Swepstone, Measham, Packington. 14.21 miles. A bit puddly here and there but no deep standing water. Big blob of rain due over in a couple of hours and I think that's it for this weekend. A glance at the weather forecast suggests the November campaign may be over.

182 done this month, 2459 this year.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on November 30, 2015, 17:51:06 PM
Sunday was vile. 59 miles of 50mph win, rain and muddy lanes

Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on December 02, 2015, 22:33:39 PM
Cloudy but dry and mild, so the December campaign is off to a decent start with a trip to Belton and back on the hybrid, 15.26 miles. Very blowy along an exposed stretch through the farmland along Ashby Road. Actually there are at least five roads I can think of with that name around here, and probably a lot more that I can't. Ashby seems to be the Rome of the East Midlands - and why not? It has one of the most impressive 24 hour Tescos in the region.

 

2474 miles done this year.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on December 04, 2015, 16:23:54 PM
Did a different version of the Belton FO8 with the bottom of the 8 flipped. 15.6 miles. Not too cold but unpleasantly blowy in the last few miles, and getting dark.

2489 done, 31 of them this month. Very windy day forecast for tomorrow but at least it should be dry so I might just pop the big 2500 this weekend.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on December 04, 2015, 16:46:46 PM
Fairly unexcited about cycling home tonight

Friday rush hour seems to turn everyone into an ill tempered moron with a death wish
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on December 05, 2015, 12:09:25 PM
I knew it was going to be blowy out there when the wind nearly closed the garage door on me, but I couldn't resist the lure of a dry road so I went out and did the old faithful lunchtime route through Heather and Packington and back along Ashby Road. 11.56 miles. Took the road bike this time, something I haven't done for a couple of weeks.

It felt like a mistake for the first mile or so, pedalling into gusts of wind that slowed me down like putting the brakes on and made me decidedly unsteady on two wheels, but wasn't so bad after that except for an exposed stretch over Alton Hill where I had to concentrate to stay upright.

That was my 200th cycling excursion this year, and I have done 2500.98 miles. Would be nice to make it to 2600 before January. We'll see.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: DavidL on December 06, 2015, 20:47:58 PM
Didn't make it out (again) this weekend. The wind was just too fierce for a fairweather wuss like me! Fingers crossed I'll get a ride in next Sunday.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on December 06, 2015, 21:49:57 PM
My advice is: If a month ends in "ber", "ry" of "ch" stay in :)
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: DavidL on December 06, 2015, 22:05:26 PM
My advice is: If a month ends in "ber", "ry" of "ch" stay in :)
V.good advice, my friend  :)
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on December 07, 2015, 10:37:20 AM
Didn't seem to get light til about 7:45 on Sunday, so did the Turbo trainer instead.
31 miles in 90 minutes on a gradient with intervals

Got a bit of a dab on!!!!
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: DavidL on December 07, 2015, 10:48:02 AM
Didn't seem to get light til about 7:45 on Sunday, so did the Turbo trainer instead.
31 miles in 90 minutes on a gradient with intervals

Got a bit of a dab on!!!!
That's pretty quick. Must have made room for a nice big Sunday roast (2000+ calories?)
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on December 07, 2015, 11:24:37 AM
Difficult to guage with the turbo, as no wind resistance etc, which is why the pace always seems high

No point just sitting on a turbo for 90 minutes and saying, wow that was great, you need a target and some structure. So intervals with a gradient thrown in does the trick

I have 3 programmes I use, all on You Tube, a 45, 60 and 90 minute by an Australian team, see below:-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M45BSE6Qz3E

Calorie wise I imagine you are looking at 1200-1500 I would have thought. The big thing to look for is dehydration, you sweat a lot on the turbo. I do it in my garage
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on December 07, 2015, 15:31:05 PM
Remarkably mild weather for the time of year, not windy and no rain although the roads were a bit damp, so I went out and did the Belton Figure Of Eight on the hybrid.

Going through a panty drought at the moment - haven't seen any discarded underwear by the roadside for weeks. I suppose it's a summer activity.

58 this month, pleased with that given the weather so far in December. 2517 this year. Hoping to get to 2600. With holidays coming up that seems more than likely.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on December 07, 2015, 16:53:25 PM
These are my stats for this year, bit down due to losing September through bollock surgery, might do a big push for the rest of December. Be nice to get to 6k



2015
 


 


Distance 5,608.9 mi
Time 313h 18m
Elev Gain 131,099 ft
Rides 537
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on December 07, 2015, 17:28:24 PM
Superb effort. Not including the turbo trainer, one assumes?
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on December 07, 2015, 17:31:39 PM
Superb effort. Not including the turbo trainer, one assumes?

It does include the Turbo, otherwise there would be a divorce in the making I imagine!!!
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: DavidL on December 07, 2015, 20:22:20 PM
Difficult to guage with the turbo, as no wind resistance etc, which is why the pace always seems high

No point just sitting on a turbo for 90 minutes and saying, wow that was great, you need a target and some structure. So intervals with a gradient thrown in does the trick

I have 3 programmes I use, all on You Tube, a 45, 60 and 90 minute by an Australian team, see below:-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M45BSE6Qz3E

Calorie wise I imagine you are looking at 1200-1500 I would have thought. The big thing to look for is dehydration, you sweat a lot on the turbo. I do it in my garage
That looks like a good way to train. I've got a Minoura Mag Trainer but haven't used it for about 2yrs - boring as ****!
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on December 09, 2015, 09:26:13 AM
Think I am done for the year, spent last two days in agony, have a disc problem in my neck, been told to lay off the bike and other things like golf for a month
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on December 09, 2015, 19:59:14 PM
Very sorry to hear that Jonners, hope it's all sorted out in a few weeks.

Dry enough at lunchtime and not too cold really. A bit bored with the usual routes so I cycled through Coalville and made it up from there as I went along. Dismally urban in parts but I hadn't been that way for months. 14.06 miles, 72 done in December, 2530 this year.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on December 10, 2015, 10:25:19 AM
Feeling much better today thankyou.

A visit to the doctors to get a date for an MRI scan proved to be very useful. He said hold off on the scan, but just concentrate on getting the pain under control. The muscles went into spasm to protect the neck, which caused more pain, which cause the muscles to spasm more. So a vicious circle.

So, after 2 days of ibruprofen, co-codamol, paracetomol, I actually feel much better. Muscles no longer in spasm, I can sleep, move, walk, and only severe pain at the extremes of movement

Still need to find out why, but on the whole pleased. Fascinating to hear a doctor just saying that getting pain under control is a fast track to healing

Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Bez on December 10, 2015, 11:06:44 AM
Feeling much better today thankyou.

A visit to the doctors to get a date for an MRI scan proved to be very useful. He said hold off on the scan, but just concentrate on getting the pain under control. The muscles went into spasm to protect the neck, which caused more pain, which cause the muscles to spasm more. So a vicious circle.

So, after 2 days of ibruprofen, co-codamol, paracetomol, I actually feel much better. Muscles no longer in spasm, I can sleep, move, walk, and only severe pain at the extremes of movement

Still need to find out why, but on the whole pleased. Fascinating to hear a doctor just saying that getting pain under control is a fast track to healing

Ask for Tramadol....great relaxant, so prevents the spasm taking hold - I get the occasional spasm in my back (always in the same spot) which is a similar the same kind of thing....takes months for the muscles to recover afterwards...physio helps, but hurts like feck - I'm sure you're a veteran at masking tears ::)
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on December 10, 2015, 11:31:51 AM
Ask for Tramadol....great relaxant, so prevents the spasm taking hold - I get the occasional spasm in my back (always in the same spot) which is a similar the same kind of thing....takes months for the muscles to recover afterwards...physio helps, but hurts like feck - I'm sure you're a veteran at masking tears ::)

Have had my fair share of injuries with 9 knee ops, 2 wrists reconstructions, a stress fracture of the spine, and sundry cuts and bumps
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Bez on December 10, 2015, 11:46:56 AM
Have had my fair share of injuries with 9 knee ops, 2 wrists reconstructions, a stress fracture of the spine, and sundry cuts and bumps

Indeed....
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on December 11, 2015, 16:33:18 PM
Did a slightly less-pedalled route again, probably because it takes in bits of Ellistown which is a touch grim in parts. Nice enough when you get out in the open though. Dry, sunny, but not very warm. 14.19 miles; 86 this month, 2545 this year.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on December 14, 2015, 15:54:33 PM
Did the Belton FO8 route modified to come back the same way through Swannington instead of Coleorton (so a sort of lasso shape). Cold, but dry enough. A bit of moisture on the roads here and there but not enough to kick up splashes. 15.03 miles. 101 done this month and 2560 this year.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on December 14, 2015, 16:13:58 PM
Oh and I nearly forgot, I had a close encounter with a horse. Coming back up through Swannington, I noticed a white horse trotting along the road unaccompanied in my direction. Its owner, about 100 yards behind it, gesticulated to me to "shoo him back this way". I stopped and attempted to get the horse to reverse course by gesturing toward it with outstretched hands, but he wasn't having it. I didn't press the point. Hope he's alright.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on December 14, 2015, 16:31:56 PM
Some reasonable results from the chiropractor, allied to a rather large steroid injection and a pound and a half of mixed prescribed painkillers and anti inflamms!

Think I may be back on the bike sometime after Xmas

No need to rush it though, weather fairly poor at the moment
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on December 16, 2015, 18:43:11 PM
Took a late lunch and did a pretty boring made-up route, nothing new or interesting. 11.41 miles. No fog or drizzle but the roads were a bit damper than I expected, so I gave the hybrid's moistened bits a rub down with some PTFE spray and an oily rag back in the garage.

Very mild out there; I didn't even take gloves and didn't miss them.

113 this month, 2571 this year.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on December 17, 2015, 15:08:15 PM
Did the classic lunchtime route extended through Ibstock to avoid a probably-puddly Heather Lane, 12.73 miles. Got rained on for the last 7 or so. Not a lot of fun.

2584 done in 2015, 125 this month.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on December 20, 2015, 15:06:01 PM
A nice dry, sunny day and unusually mild if a little fresher than yesterday (spent the day in London and couldn't believe the weather - it was actually warm). So I got out and did my favourite Saturday route down through Twycross and back up through Market Bosworth, on the hybrid. Very pleasant. I wore my ordinary woolly gloves and noticed that they seem to make my fingers go uncomfortable and numb .. I'd attributed this to the cold last time but they're obviously cutting off circulation somehow, despite not being that tight. My hands felt fine once I'd taken them off for a minute.

Anyway - 24.25 done, which takes me to 2608 miles this year and a respectable December total so far of 150. Would be nice to get to 2700 before 2016 kicks in, but that depends on the weather.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on December 21, 2015, 10:16:35 AM
managed a gentle cycle yesterday, 33 miles at about 16's

neck feels stiff today but no pain. easing back into it
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on December 23, 2015, 15:59:29 PM
Sunny, dry, a bit cold. I did the time-honoured Belton Figure Of Eight, with the top half of the Eight reversed. 15.69.

2624 done in 2016 and 165 this month, more than I expected for December. Eight days left!
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on December 24, 2015, 16:48:23 PM
I did a route that takes in a number of busy A roads, thinking the roads would be dryer after this morning's rain, which they were. A nice change, and a wonderful view from Copt Oak, which is one of the highest points in Leicestershire - miles and miles of sprawling hills, fields and trees in the winter sunshine. Should have taken a camera.

Only 13.15 miles but I'd had enough by the time I got back, it's a bit cold and blowy out there.
 
179 this month, 2637 this year.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on December 26, 2015, 15:54:13 PM
A very windy day but mild and no rain, so I performed my favourite Saturday route. Had to battle 40mph winds in exposed parts for the first 10 miles or so, but my spirits remained high, and after I turned to circle northward again at Sheepy Magna the wind was on my back and the sun had come out. Glorious.

Modified the route this time to take in a small lane I'd noticed on Google Maps. A bit puddly and muddy but very quiet and barely wide enough for a car. Took in a couple of old bridges over the Ashby de la Zouch Canal. Despite having to clean up the hybrid when I got back, a lovely run out. Normally I'm starting to feel knackered after 20+ miles but none of that today. Perhaps because I took a couple of short breaks, the first to take photos and the second for a wee down by the canal.


Some pics:

(http://truth.justdied.com/images/boxing01.jpg)


(http://truth.justdied.com/images/boxing02.jpg)


(http://truth.justdied.com/images/boxing03.jpg)


(http://truth.justdied.com/images/boxing04.jpg)

26.5 miles. 2663 done this year and 205 this month (more than July, despite the wet weather). I do believe I'll get to 2700 miles before Friday.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on December 28, 2015, 14:24:22 PM
Another mercifully dry day and a long run out, this time to Markfield through Ibstock and Bagworth, then back through Stanton under Bardon, Bardon Hill and Coalville. I didn't quite manage the route I'd intended - took a couple of wrong turns - but ended up with a close approximation of it. To get back on track I did a right onto Reservoir Rd at Thornton, a nicely descending slope with a view of Thornton Reservoir, but a road infested with Range Rovers, horses and the upper middle classes so I had to put the brakes on to weave a path through. I hate to waste hard-won kinetic energy.

22.23 miles which leaves me on 2686 miles done in 2015, 227 this month. A fine day forecast for tomorrow but I might just go out later on for 15 miles or so to clock up 2700.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on December 29, 2015, 12:41:59 PM
Egad! Because it was nice and sunny, I ventured out today for the first time in two months. Big Mistake! Five and a bit miles nearly killed me :(
But, what doesn't kill us can only make us stronger, I shall endeavour to get out at all available opportunities in the New Year...
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on December 29, 2015, 18:35:54 PM
Yes it was rather a nice day, but because I spent most of it recovering from a hangover I didn't make it out on my bike until about 3:30pm and consequently about half of my trip to Belton and back was performed in the dark. Anyway - 16.2 miles done, 243 this month and 2702 this year.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on December 30, 2015, 13:38:12 PM
The weather forecast suggests I won't be going out on my bike again this year, so here it is - Cycling 2015. Total - 2702 miles. In August I averaged more than 15 miles per day over the 31 days, which seems extraordinary. That was the month I bought my new bike.

(http://truth.justdied.com/images/cycling2015.png)

Same again in 2016, for me - same target, 2112 miles.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on January 01, 2016, 14:37:43 PM
Got the 2016 campaign off to a rather invigorating (ie cold) start with a slightly modified version of the Belton Figure Of Eight on the hybrid. 15.86 miles. The weather looks decidedly ropey for the next few days, but I didn't start until January 9th last year so I'm happy enough with that. Aiming to do at least 120 miles this month.

Same target, 2112 miles. 2096 to go!
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on January 06, 2016, 18:31:39 PM
Dry today albeit a few puddles lurk here and there. I did the time-honoured lunchtime route, extended to take in Ibstock instead of Heather, thereby avoiding a (probably) waterlogged Heather Lane. Glad to get out again. Not too cold. 12.74 miles,  28.60 done this year. I'd done 0 this time last year so I'm winning!
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on January 07, 2016, 10:15:40 AM
Back on my bike now thank goodness, few small changes to set up, and the viewing angle for the telly with the turbo trainer are resulting in my neck calming down.

Done a couple of interval sessions this week, and the daily 3 miles to work then back. Unfortunately have bust the hub on the rear wheel of the new winter bike, so have taken the opportunity to trade up to Fulcrum Quad Racer wheels, 45% off at Wiggle, so £180 well spent. Will make a nice difference, as the old wheels were a bit bouncy, these ones are very stiff.

Have signed up for this race in May, which is absolutely brilliant, and I highly recommend it:-

http://www.velothon-wales.co.uk/en/
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on January 07, 2016, 21:08:07 PM
The rain has gone away for a few hours so I set out for an invigorating night-time ride at 18:30. Did the Belton Figure Of Eight with the top part of the 8 reversed for a laugh. 15.5 miles. A bit creepy riding those lonely country lanes in the dark, hundreds of metres from the nearest streetlight. But I had an LED torch strapped to my bars that lights up the road in front almost like a car headlight. A bit cold, it's about 3 degrees C out there but the leggings I bought from Amazon do a decent job and I wasn't uncomfortable.

That's 44 miles this month, not bad considering the predominantly wet weather.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on January 08, 2016, 11:52:46 AM
Agreed, very cold this morning

New wheels are nice! Strongly recommend them
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on January 09, 2016, 14:14:35 PM
A year exactly after I set off on my first cycling outing of 2015, during the course of which I was bitten by a dog, I went and did the Belton Figure Of Eight. Roads a bit wet, but surprisingly mild. I bought some thermal long pants to go under my cycling leggings. They seem to work well but since it wasn't that cold I can't be sure. They aren't designed for cycling of course but didn't inhibit leg movement too much once stretched in after a mile or so.

15.45 miles. 59.55 done in 2016, all of them on the hybrid.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on January 10, 2016, 14:26:26 PM
Against all odds, a beautiful, bright sunny day out there, albeit the roads are a bit moist. Took the hybrid out for a run through Swannington, through to Lount and across to Breedon, then back along Top Brand through Coleorton. Very nice run out. 16.32 miles, which takes me to a total of 75.87 January miles. Quite pleased with that given the conspicuous poverty of dry weather and daylight hours at the moment.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on January 11, 2016, 15:18:50 PM
Cold and the roads are still damp but it's not raining, so I did the Ibstock-Extended Old Faithful Lunch Hour. 12.75. 88.62 done this year.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on January 11, 2016, 16:29:53 PM
Turbo trainer for me tonight and for the foreseeable.......

Did 30 or so very wet and windy miles yesterday morning, and getting a bit sick of cleaning the chain and cassette
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on January 11, 2016, 17:29:43 PM
I just assault mine with PTFE spray, but it's not an expensive bike.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on January 12, 2016, 09:51:58 AM
I just assault mine with PTFE spray, but it's not an expensive bike.

Sensible, but try and keep it away from the hubs on the wheels if you can. While protecting from water and mud, stuff like GT85 can also strip the lubricant which is in there, and your bearings will get worn out.

Many more seasoned bike experts (not including myself here) actually use GT85 to clean their chains and cassette rather than water and detergent.

Anyway, after saying I wasn't going outside for a bit, two mates got me signed up to this last night!

Web page:
http://www.delphcyclist.info/Mere100.html

Route map and profile:
http://ridewithgps.com/routes/3843081


Its only £6, so if the weather is crap I can cancel
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on January 13, 2016, 17:43:48 PM
Getting a touch bored of the usual routes all the time so I devised one that takes a narrow lane from Swannington to Whitwick. But I missed a turn, and ended up taking the preposterously rollercoaster-esque Abbey Road to Shepshed. I won't do that again. I enjoyed the 32mph descents but the uphill counterparts were a bastard.

Still, a good workout I suppose.

I took the main road back from Shepshed, a route I know well from excursions to Loughborough in a car, but which I wouldn't normally attempt on a bike. A large lorry passing at about 50mph gave me about eight inches of clearance on its way past.

Anyway not a route I'll bother with again, but 14.77 miles nonetheless. That takes me to 103 done in 2016, more than my January total in 2015. I'm winning.

Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on January 14, 2016, 09:29:08 AM
Good work James, sounds like a road to be avoided, especially in the wet and cold.

Hopefully taking delivery today of a Castelli skull cap type thing that goes under my helmet and also covers the ears. Getting brain freeze in the mornings
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: andyhaines on January 14, 2016, 14:25:15 PM
Typical "boy" thing to do, to keep a record of how many miles you have cycled...which is why I might try it this year1  :P

Did a 30+ miler on New Year's Eve (so that doesn't count), but then didn't ride for the first 4 days of the new year. Most of my cycling at the moment is made up of my work commute on my mountain bike....did 55 miles last week, and already a bit more than that this week. It's a 10 mile round trip, door-to-door, but I often extend it to an 18 mile round trip.

I've been invited out by some friends for a ride on Sunday....currently looks like it's going to be dry, but very cold.  :-\
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on January 14, 2016, 14:47:57 PM
Welcome to the new hot topic on TNMS! Middle aged prog fans in Lycra

My work commute is 3 miles each way, was the primary reason I took up the sport. Now I'm hooked
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: andyhaines on January 14, 2016, 15:11:12 PM
Welcome to the new hot topic on TNMS! Middle aged prog fans in Lycra

My work commute is 3 miles each way, was the primary reason I took up the sport. Now I'm hooked

Middle-aged? Whatcha talkin' bout Willis?!!  :P :'(
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: andyhaines on January 14, 2016, 15:12:29 PM
The most I've done in one ride is 75 miles. Aiming to do my first 100+ miler this Easter.  :)
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on January 14, 2016, 16:52:28 PM
The most I've done in one ride is 75 miles. Aiming to do my first 100+ miler this Easter.  :)

Nice. All about nutrition when it comes to distance rides like that. Keep drinking, 60g of carbs an hour if you can stomach it, try and get some of the high 5 or similar barnded tablets to put in your drink, stops cramp.

Im doing the Mere 100 next Sunday. Imagine it will be a bit fresh....
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: döm on January 14, 2016, 17:16:19 PM
another MAMIL (middle aged man in lycra) here although very much an amateur.  I do cycle to work virtually every day but that's only 3kms each way.  Last July i started doing slightly longer journeys home to increase  the distances and in readiness for my first 50K; The An Post Heritage tour of Meath (basically a trip up the Hill of Tara and back). It went well but my lungs completely gave up about half way up the hill so I started walking.  After a few metres I spotted a cameraman higher up the hill and so managed to get back on the bike and finish the climb.  Amazing what pride can do to the cardio-vascular system!

My runtastic app tells me I did 1748kms last year (my phone was out of use for about 3 weeks last August so you could probably add another 150 - 200 to that) and 53 so far this month.  You get more kms for your buck and I'm in Ireland where they've gone metric so that's what I'll be using !
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: NeilP on January 14, 2016, 19:08:03 PM
I'm going to knock the dust off the old bike this year and perhaps throw a mountain bike into the boot of the car for when I'm working away in the summer months.... not looking forward to the first couple of sessions in truth, I remember how sore I used to get on the long rides and prep for charity stuff, maybe the saddle technology has improved (he said hopefully)? Longest ever single ride with 7 workmates on a charity ride was 246 miles - over 16 hours with a dawn start from Port Sunlight works.. couldn't walk for days afterwards.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on January 14, 2016, 19:33:14 PM
The best saddles in my experience are the thin, brutal looking ones - they help to prevent chafing. Cycle shorts (with appropriate padding) are the important factor.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: NeilP on January 14, 2016, 19:52:52 PM
and plenty of chamois creme
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: andyhaines on January 14, 2016, 20:24:41 PM
I'm going to knock the dust off the old bike this year and perhaps throw a mountain bike into the boot of the car for when I'm working away in the summer months.... not looking forward to the first couple of sessions in truth, I remember how sore I used to get on the long rides and prep for charity stuff, maybe the saddle technology has improved (he said hopefully)? Longest ever single ride with 7 workmates on a charity ride was 246 miles - over 16 hours with a dawn start from Port Sunlight works.. couldn't walk for days afterwards.
Suitably impressed.  :o
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on January 15, 2016, 09:14:53 AM
Good cycling shorts a must

Don't go cheap, buy the best ones you can afford.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: döm on January 15, 2016, 09:23:13 AM
Good cycling shorts a must

Don't go cheap, buy the best ones you can afford.

It get everything from Lidl or Aldi and I haven't been let down yet.  Saying that I don't cover the sort of distances that you do Jonners!
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on January 15, 2016, 10:37:06 AM
It get everything from Lidl or Aldi and I haven't been let down yet.  Saying that I don't cover the sort of distances that you do Jonners!

I started that way too, and most of their stuff is absolutely fine, and extremely good value for money, much of which I still use, such as the winter jackets, gloves, tool bag and a waterproof.

However, while fine, the shorts padding gets thin fairly quickly, and for longer rides when you are in the saddle for 4 or 5 hours, not good enough.

But, like you said, for the distances you are doing Dom they are perfectly fine
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on January 15, 2016, 16:12:31 PM
Cold and a thin sprinkling of snow here and there but the roads were dry and clear enough for an excursion on the hybrid. Took a route similar to one I did over the holidays, going past Leicestershire's highest pub. Nice views. I wrapped up warm and was quite comfortable. 13.45 miles, which takes me to 117 this month.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on January 15, 2016, 16:29:37 PM
Avoided cycling in today, mixture of frost/sleet and the need to get home sharpish from here as going to see the Revenant at the Red Carpet cinema at Barton Marina.

Felt really strange driving to work
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on January 16, 2016, 10:41:58 AM
Wrote a blog piece about cycling on Thursday http://www.jamesgibbon.com/cycling/
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on January 16, 2016, 15:42:35 PM
Very cold but a beautiful bright sunny day so I took a punt on going out on the hybrid while on call, and did my favourite Saturday route down to Sheepy Parva and back through Bosworth. Wonderful run out, enjoyed it very much although one or two of the narrower lanes were a bit muddy. Started to feel a bit cold when the Sun disappeared behind clouds and a light mist descended, but I only had three miles to go at that point.

25.6 miles. 142 done this year.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: andyhaines on January 17, 2016, 14:08:23 PM
Did 55 miles in the first week of the year (Monday to Sunday), but managed 105 miles this week. The miles are still mainly made up from my work commute, although I did 18 miles today - got soaked by icy rain into a headwind along the Solent...not much fun.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on January 18, 2016, 10:20:40 AM
Put a turbo tyre back on my old bike that I use on the turbo trainer. Performance suddenly dropped by about 3mph on average over the 90 minutes! Think I must have made the old tyre like a racing slick!

Think your target of 2112 miles (bloody rush fans!) may need adjusting James. Nice article. With an almost Hobbit like ending.......
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on January 18, 2016, 15:14:54 PM
Thanks J.

Two cycle helmet covers popped through the front door this morning (thought I'd ordered one) so I gave one of them a trial run on the Ibstock-Extended Classic Lunchtime route. I've also attached my DAB radio to my helmet using a rubber double-loop device intended for attaching torches to handlebars. Saves me having to strap on the armband, makes life a bit easier. Interferes with the helmet cover only slightly.

Anyway another 12.75, 155 this year. I'm 128 miles in front of my total on this date last year.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on January 18, 2016, 15:53:04 PM
I use a Altura skull cap thing under my lid which covers the ears and stops winter brain freeze, but still allows some air flow. Gives shocking hair results afterwards though.....
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on January 18, 2016, 17:58:39 PM
The helmet cover seemed to work nicely. Stopped the cold air whistling through the holes :)
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on January 20, 2016, 17:49:50 PM
Lovely bright, sunny day if not exactly warm. I did a variation of the Belton Figure Of Eight. 15.49, 171 done this year. Should have taken the road bike, the roads are nice and dry. But I didn't.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: DavidL on January 20, 2016, 20:27:27 PM
Lovely bright, sunny day if not exactly warm. I did a variation of the Belton Figure Of Eight. 15.49, 171 done this year. Should have taken the road bike, the roads are nice and dry. But I didn't.
Barely thawed out all day here, I wouldn't of taken my chances.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on January 21, 2016, 09:22:11 AM
Driven the last couple of days, very frosty round here

Weather looks much warmer, if wet for the weekend, so the Mere 100 is on at Cheadle.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on January 21, 2016, 16:05:00 PM
some great sales deals still around on Wiggle and chain reaction, and also planet x.

Just got some half price Mavic road shoes, as my every day shimano ones that I train in have stretched to the point of no return and stink!
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on January 23, 2016, 16:50:33 PM
Did the princely total of 5.08 miles today on the first run out of the year.
Mainly just to test my new Garmin Vivoactive watch and heart rate monitor. I think I'm seriously unfit...
It synced up with my Map My Ride account and it appears I have set the fastest times of the year over a couple of courses :) OK, so I'm only the second person to do them this year, but: UP YOURS LOSERS!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on January 25, 2016, 10:07:12 AM
I used to use Map My Ride, but think Strava has more to offer and is more friendly.

100.8 miles yesterday in the Mere Audax. Some lovely countryside up around Cheadle, roads were a bit muddy in parts, but what do you expect.

Great fun
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on January 25, 2016, 10:22:53 AM
100 miles in a day, I think I'd have been hospitalised by 75. How many breaks do you take on a ride like that, and how long are they?

I liked Strava but only used it a few times - too much hassle to make sure the phone is charged and kick off the app etc. I make do with a little Mio bike GPS unit on the road bike, or a regular magnet / wire bike computer on the hybrid - which I have calibrated to frightening precision.  Or sometimes a simple GPS watch. I only need to know the distance travelled, I don't generally care about the time and I can always work out the route I took if I need to.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on January 25, 2016, 10:35:41 AM
100 miles in a day, I think I'd have been hospitalised by 75. How many breaks do you take on a ride like that, and how long are they?

I liked Strava but only used it a few times - too much hassle to make sure the phone is charged and kick off the app etc. I make do with a little Mio bike GPS unit on the road bike, or a regular magnet / wire bike computer on the hybrid - which I have calibrated to frightening precision.  Or sometimes a simple GPS watch. I only need to know the distance travelled, I don't generally care about the time and I can always work out the route I took if I need to.

I use a garmin 800 on my bike, which measures all sorts, cadence (how many pedal turns per minute which is quite important), speed from either GPS or a wheel magnet, heart rate, maps, profiles, training programmes etc. it is very good, links to a Garmin Website which also links to Strava, so its all very easy.

Aldi were selling a slightly lower spec Garmin recently for about £70. They are very good.

We had two stops of about 10 minutes each. An Audax is basically a semi organised fun ride, a bit lime orienteering, where you have to take a card with you and get it stamped at various locations. They tend to be run around nice areas, and take you past a few nice pubs or cafes.

Speed was OK, about 16mph average, I was riding my heavier winter bike, and it was muddy. Plus, being honest its too early in the season for a ride of this length (for me anyway), the furthest I have done in the last 3 months is about 30miles.

Still, its a nice challenge to do a century.

They key is hydration and nutrition. Drink loads, and keep eating. 60g of carbs and hour is what they recommend, and about a litre of water
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: döm on January 25, 2016, 11:08:31 AM
105kms - so far this year which is nothing to write home about (especially put next to 160 in a day!).  Need the longer days to kick in, not a fan of cycling in the dark.  I've joined a cycling group though, which should get me out a bit more at the weekends.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on January 25, 2016, 11:31:53 AM
105kms - so far this year which is nothing to write home about (especially put next to 160 in a day!).  Need the longer days to kick in, not a fan of cycling in the dark.  I've joined a cycling group though, which should get me out a bit more at the weekends.

From small acorns grow great big oaks.

Its hardly cycling friendly weather at the moment, but its great you are getting out there! Must mean you enjoy it

Had an argument with a BMW driver today, sat in slow moving traffic using facebook. I had a word, he proceeded to start ranting and screaming at me, very amusing. Looking forward to seeing him again
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on January 25, 2016, 13:10:31 PM
Moving the goalposts already, but I've decided to aim for 2298 miles this year, rather than 2112. If I reach that target it'll mean I've done 5,000 miles in two years.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on January 25, 2016, 15:49:10 PM
A bit blowy but not too cold. I did 12.87, a route I made up in my head as I went along and nothing adventurous or particularly interesting. Half rural, half urban.

183.55 done this year so I'm looking good for 200 before Feb.

Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on January 25, 2016, 16:35:30 PM
Having a night off the trainer.

Feel a bit tender in the under areas....
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on January 27, 2016, 16:40:31 PM
Dry save a few stray puddles and not cold, so I went out and did a truncated version of the Belton Figure Of Eight which gave me 12.02 miles, a comfortable lunchtime distance. The 40mph winds were supposed to have died down to a tolerable 20mph-ish but I don't they had and a few of the more exposed miles on the way back were hard won indeed.

Anyway - 195.57 done this year. For fun I'm racing my one-year-younger self, and I'd done 77 miles this time last year. So I've built up an 118 mile lead.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on January 27, 2016, 17:00:44 PM
Might venture onto the turbo trainer tonight. Came away from the Audax on Sunday with a bit of a calf injury, which I always seem to get on longer rides, its either a cramp or muscle tear. More of a recovery ride. I have been sleeping rather well this week, mixture of worry at home, and utter exhaustion!

Anyway, moved the cleats on my right shoe a few mm further back, so taking the pressure off the calf, so fingers crossed
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on January 28, 2016, 18:20:00 PM
A bit blowy again at lunchtime but not too cold when I wrapped up and nice and dry. Once again I improvised a route as I went along, taking a route with a winding narrow path through Farm Town. I had forgotten how quickly it descends; quite an exhilarating ride requiring careful concentration. Only 9.27 miles but I had a meeting to prepare for in the afternoon. 205 miles done this month, which is actually comfortably more than 1/12 of the target so I'm pleased with that considering it's one of the darker / wetter / colder months.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on January 29, 2016, 09:48:34 AM
very windy on my commute this morning.

Calf calming down, cleats being moved has helped
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on January 30, 2016, 12:56:44 PM
Well, that was the hardest five miles I've ever done! Last week was just to check that my fitness watch and HRM worked, today I thought I'd see how quickly I could do it. Not very is the answer, I don't think the wind that blew me into the kerb a couple of times helped. Nor does meeting cars on a single track road. I've met more cars on it the last two Saturdays than in the whole of last summer!

Average heart rate was exactly the same as last week.

I'm now on Strava and there's a lot more competition over courses than there is on Map My Ride, folk have set up about four on the five miles I've done today, I've got some improvement to make...
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on January 30, 2016, 14:14:06 PM
A slightly odd one, today. I decided to take a route that I used occasionally a few years ago, that takes a left from Swannington through some narrow paths then back out on Ashby Road. I haven't tried that one since I started cycling in earnest at the beginning of last year because it's relatively short, prone to be muddy and involves a steep climb. But I thought it might make a nice change.


Anyway about half-way through I found myself on part of a well-travelled more recent route, which totally threw me. I was still on the old route but had no idea that that part of it, near Coleorton, was shared with the new, very familiar route. I could no longer relate where I was in the terms of the old route, it just didn't seem like the same place. So despite having done it about a dozen times in 2013, I couldn't work out which way to go from there and lost my way.

From there I improvised a vaguely enjoyable if slightly over-hilly route and ended up doing 14.39 miles. Nice day out there, sunny if cold. Feel slightly guilty not to have done the Saturday 25-miler, but it's a bit blowy.

219 done this year. The weather forecast for tomorrow looks a bit grim so I suspect that's it for the January campaign.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on January 30, 2016, 16:10:28 PM
Did the five miler again this afternoon. Marginally quicker. Marginally less windy. Got behind a No 82 bus :(

Did manage to set a fastest time of the year on one Strava segment though :)
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on January 31, 2016, 22:27:33 PM
It seems you don't have to use performance-enhancing drugs to enhance your performance in cycling:

http://news.sky.com/story/1633189/hidden-motor-found-in-cyclists-race-bike

"A concealed motor has been discovered during the examination of a bike used by a Belgian cyclist at the world cyclo-cross championships.

The bike was seized by cycling authorities after Femke Van den Driessche, 19, was forced to pull out of the women's under-23 race due to a mechanical problem."

A similarly modified bike, filmed last year

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKgJ_Uhwfno

And
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Nd13ARuvVE
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on February 01, 2016, 09:24:55 AM
rumours of these for a while from what I can gather, this is the first high profile sting though. Silly girl

rescued yesterday by two good Samaritans, had a puncture from a huge shard of flint on a wet road. Went to mend it, no tyre levers. It was very wet and cold, luckily two fellers came past on bikes, jumped off, mended the tyre, and had an aerosol type pump which blew up the tyre in about 2 seconds.

The cycling fraternity is a good one
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: andyhaines on February 01, 2016, 13:30:44 PM
Glad to hear you got some help Jonners.


Managed 330 miles in January. Not bad considering how crap the weather has been.  :P
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on February 01, 2016, 14:08:55 PM
Glad to hear you got some help Jonners.


Managed 330 miles in January. Not bad considering how crap the weather has been.  :P

Needed it. I was very cold, and very wet. I always stop to see if people need help, and fortunately karma has kicked in when I needed it.

My hands were almost too cold to change gears afterwards, the only solution was to absolutely put my foot down and work up a right sweat. the lads who helped me were quite surprised to see me about 10 minutes later go flashing by!
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on February 02, 2016, 17:40:54 PM
Went out this lunchtime and did a different route that I'd devised down through Ibstock, across through Bagworth and back through Ellistown. Busier roads than I normally like and a bit urban through Ellistown, but it made a change. I got rained on for about one minute, but only lightly.

12.44 miles, 232 done this year.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on February 03, 2016, 16:10:08 PM
Another dry afternoon, not too cold, a little bit blowy. I did the Extended Lunch Break Route Avoiding Heather Lane. 12.77 miles.

244 this year, 25 this month.

Just noticed that it's a leap year .. I suppose that gives me a slender advantage over last year. But I'm 128 miles ahead of myself this time last year already.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on February 04, 2016, 09:10:11 AM
Interval training on the Turbo for an hour last night, in my new Mavic Krysium road shoes, which are lovely. very comfy and stiff in the sole
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on February 04, 2016, 12:15:56 PM
On a related note the cleats on my Shimanos are starting to look a bit manky, but they seem to be working fine still.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on February 04, 2016, 12:44:17 PM
On a related note the cleats on my Shimanos are starting to look a bit manky, but they seem to be working fine still.

Are you these. If so, manky is fine, you should have a little movement with them in the pedal anyway, its better for your knees. However, if they are moving round loads or starting to unclip when you pedal hard, then worth changing. The yellow plastic bits are only there to protect what is below, make no actual difference to the connection

(http://cdn.coresites.factorymedia.com/rcuk/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/shimano-cleat.jpg)
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on February 04, 2016, 13:00:56 PM
Yes, those ones. I'm aware of the need for them to move around in the pedal and have set that quite carefully. No involuntary unclipping so far.

The only problem I ever had with these was bolting them into the shoes properly; I lost a couple of bolts on the first couple of rides. In the end I used a bit of copper grease and a torque wrench and they've been fine ever since.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: NeilP on February 04, 2016, 13:10:41 PM
I favour the speedplay zero pedals and cleats these days... very easy to use and cover for brief walks

http://www.wiggle.co.uk/speedplay-zero-pedal-cleats/
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on February 04, 2016, 13:41:41 PM
They look nice. Happy enough with SPD road cleats for now though.

Best change I have made for a long time is going from 23 to 25mm tyres. doesn't sound much, but has made a noticeable difference in comfort.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: NeilP on February 04, 2016, 15:55:41 PM
agreed, I'm on 23 now though at one time was 17mm.... ridiculous on a road bike
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on February 04, 2016, 17:09:23 PM
Just looking at a tyre to use in the summer as an alternative to Gatorskins, which I don't think run awfully well, but they do stop punctures nicely
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: DavidL on February 04, 2016, 17:37:33 PM
Just looking at a tyre to use in the summer as an alternative to Gatorskins, which I don't think run awfully well, but they do stop punctures nicely
I'm on my second pair of Michelin Pro 3 Race - no complaints. I think the only puncture I've had was caused by a deep pothole. Nice colours too.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: DavidL on February 04, 2016, 17:54:48 PM
I've decided to get my old mountain bike fettled so I can join in with my mates while the weather is not so good. Took it to the local cycle shop for a service today with a view to getting some new forks sorted too. I was hoping to get some advice on what to have fitted but the guy doesn't sell forks as he cannot get them at a decent price because he'e not a volume buyer. So I need to buy them and he will fit them.
The bike is a GT Avalanche (hardtail) at least 15yrs old but a good bit of kit nevertheless. From new it was fited with Marzocchi Bomber B2 oil-damped shocks with about 2 - 3" travel. I've never liked them much - a bit 'spongey'.
I know I need something with fairly limited travel to kep the geometry right. I've been looking at Rockshox XC but there's lots of models with different features ('poploc'?). Most of the riding wil be muddy lanes and a fair  bit of on-road too, I guess. Not too much off-road climbing or downhill.
Any advice would be welcome.
I should have added that they need to be compatible with 26" wheels and V-brakes.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on February 04, 2016, 21:48:05 PM
Had the afternoon off work for some legal tasks, which being swiftly dealt with enabled me to get out and put in a 7 miler, wow, 7 miles so early in the season for me :)
Must remember not to cycle on a schoolday afternoon at chucking out time, all the bloody traffic clogging the roads taking little darling the 150 yards home >:(
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: DavidL on February 04, 2016, 23:56:27 PM
Had the afternoon off work for some legal tasks, which being swiftly dealt with enabled me to get out and put in a 7 miler, wow, 7 miles so early in the season for me :)
Must remember not to cycle on a schoolday afternoon at chucking out time, all the bloody traffic clogging the roads taking little darling the 150 yards home >:(
Probably the most dangerous time to be out as mummy continually takes her eye off the road to monitor the squabbling brats in the back of the chelsea tractor.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on February 05, 2016, 09:58:44 AM
Probably the most dangerous time to be out as mummy continually takes her eye off the road to monitor the squabbling brats in the back of the chelsea tractor.

I had a "chat" with one today driving a very powerful BMX, coffee in right hand, phone in her left. Makes me want to screeeeaaaammmmM!!!!!!!!

Will have a look at those Michelin pro 3
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Straight Shooter on February 05, 2016, 10:37:14 AM
I had a "chat" with one today driving a very powerful BMX, coffee in right hand, phone in her left.
How could she possibly control the handlebars?!  :D

Seriously though, poor show from her!
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on February 05, 2016, 12:12:30 PM
How could she possibly control the handlebars?!  :D

Seriously though, poor show from her!

Ha! After I typed it I thought "some clever sod will pick me up on this!"

I had a letter back from my MP last week, Andrew Mitchell, after I wrote to him about this topic. Apparently there were 24 fatalities last year where it was proved mobiles were being used. I bet there were many, many other non fatal accidents caused though
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: döm on February 05, 2016, 12:20:20 PM
I find that when you're being overtaken by another road vehicle they will give you all the space in the World if there is nothing coming in the opposite direction. 

For some reason, when that is not the case, the driver seems to think "ah hell why should I wait, I can probably squeeze past him there no problem" and proceeds to do so leaving a very small gap.  It's a difficult one though, because when you have a faster moving vehicle behind you with a timid driver, who is waiting an age to get past you, that can be pretty nerve wracking too.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on February 05, 2016, 12:38:42 PM
Ha! After I typed it I thought "some clever sod will pick me up on this!"

I had a letter back from my MP last week, Andrew Mitchell, after I wrote to him about this topic. Apparently there were 24 fatalities last year where it was proved mobiles were being used. I bet there were many, many other non fatal accidents caused though

A cyclist himself, of course :)

It's one of those laws that's next to impossible to enforce.

I got hit by a car myself in 2010 while cycling, though as far as I'm aware a mobile phone wasn't involved. Funnily enough I didn't actually come off the bike, just got clipped. Nasty bruise and a bit of muscle trauma to the right leg and a cracked frame. The guy stopped immediately and offered to pay for the damage to the bike there and then, but when I contacted him by email with a rough estimate of the cost he changed his tune, claimed I was riding in the middle of the road (total nonsense) and that he'd decided not to pay. Self-respect worth a bit less to him than the money, obviously.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Straight Shooter on February 05, 2016, 16:48:48 PM
Ha! After I typed it I thought "some clever sod will pick me up on this!"
Nah, just me!  :)

I had a letter back from my MP last week, Andrew Mitchell, after I wrote to him about this topic. Apparently there were 24 fatalities last year where it was proved mobiles were being used. I bet there were many, many other non fatal accidents caused though
Jeez-oh!  :(
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Straight Shooter on February 05, 2016, 16:53:01 PM
A cyclist himself, of course :)

It's one of those laws that's next to impossible to enforce.

I got hit by a car myself in 2010 while cycling, though as far as I'm aware a mobile phone wasn't involved. Funnily enough I didn't actually come off the bike, just got clipped. Nasty bruise and a bit of muscle trauma to the right leg and a cracked frame. The guy stopped immediately and offered to pay for the damage to the bike there and then, but when I contacted him by email with a rough estimate of the cost he changed his tune, claimed I was riding in the middle of the road (total nonsense) and that he'd decided not to pay. Self-respect worth a bit less to him than the money, obviously.
What a tw@t!
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on February 05, 2016, 21:47:37 PM
I find that when you're being overtaken by another road vehicle they will give you all the space in the World if there is nothing coming in the opposite direction. 
I find that the smaller the car the less room they give you. Last year a Citroen C1 came by so close it brushed the hair on my legs, the following car - a Jag - went by as if I were a Double Decker bus - and I'm not that big these days.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: NeilP on February 05, 2016, 22:03:17 PM
What a tw@t!

my thoughts too... sorry to hear that James :-[
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: NeilP on February 05, 2016, 22:04:36 PM
I find that the smaller the car the less room they give you. Last year a Citroen C1 came by so close it brushed the hair on my legs, the following car - a Jag - went by as if I were a Double Decker bus - and I'm not that big these days.

all the more reason to film your rides.... sad indictment but I fear the best option
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on February 08, 2016, 09:52:40 AM
Cant bring myself to do it (filming), I fear I would go looking for trouble and concentrating on everything else other than what I should be concentrating on
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on February 08, 2016, 09:56:02 AM
did my usual sunday loop yesterday (30 miles) as a fasted training session. ie no breakfast, just head off. The idea is to go steady, don't bust a gut, and it trains your body to learn how to burn fat.
So, your metabolism goes through the roof, but you must eat immediately afterwards or your body goes into starvation mode, and bizarrely starts turning what you eat later into fat.

Ended up riding faster than I normally would, but it did mean when we went to a christening later I did some serious damage to the buffet!!!
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on February 09, 2016, 18:05:28 PM
A dry afternoon for a change give or take the odd puddle, and those dribbles of water that seem to cross the roads of NW Leics like shallow streams. I did the Belton Figure Of Eight in reverse, which turned out to be a poor decision because I had to fight what felt like hurricane gales on the exposed part of Ashby Road between Belton and Griffydam. I'd actually started to feel sick with exertion by the time I turned left toward Peggs Green.

15.87 miles. Only 41 miles done this month so far, I might try to boost the February tally with a couple of night rides.

260 this year.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on February 10, 2016, 17:50:00 PM
A sunny day albeit a bit cold and blowy. I did the regular lunchtime route through Packington, Heather and Swepstone in reverse. 12.74 miles. I took a late lunch and set off at 3:30 - nice that I can do that without taking lights now; the daytime hours are expanding nicely.

I only noticed that I wasn't wearing cycling shorts after 9 miles. But fear not; I wasn't naked from the waist down. I did have my cycling leggings on.

54 miles this month, 273 this year.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on February 11, 2016, 09:18:21 AM
Interval training last night, drowning in sweat at the end of it!
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on February 11, 2016, 15:32:33 PM
I judged that conditions were dry enough for an excursion on the road bike, so it got its first outing since November. Did the Belton FO8. 15.45 miles. Really nice out there, sunny and relatively calm.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on February 11, 2016, 15:50:57 PM
I judged that conditions were dry enough for an excursion on the road bike, so it got its first outing since November. Did the Belton FO8. 15.45 miles. Really nice out there, sunny and relatively calm.

Did you notice much of a difference performance/comfort wise during and afterwards?

I have been only using my winter aluminium Planet X since September, and an older knackered Decathlon thing on my Turbo trainer

I imagine when I get the carbon bike out it will feel like I have been on EPO all winter!!!!
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on February 11, 2016, 16:05:25 PM
Absolutely - the Boardman churns out the miles for conspicuously less effort but it's less comfortable, the straight handlebars on the hybrid suit me better really. My wrists start to ache on the Boardman after a while.

The ideal bike for me would probably be something like the Boardman hybrid, which is a bit like a road bike with straight bars. Having said that my Carrera hybrid has been very good value, especially after I put skinnier tyres on it.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on February 11, 2016, 16:15:54 PM
Absolutely - the Boardman churns out the miles for conspicuously less effort but it's less comfortable, the straight handlebars on the hybrid suit me better really. My wrists start to ache on the Boardman after a while.

The ideal bike for me would probably be something like the Boardman hybrid, which is a bit like a road bike with straight bars. Having said that my Carrera hybrid has been very good value, especially after I put skinnier tyres on it.

Wrist ache will undoubtedly be due to ride positioning, not vibration (although either thicker cork handlebar tape or a second layer does dampen that). It probably means you are putting too much weight/force through your hands/wrists.

A google/youtube search will give loads of advice about that, however as it sounds like you are enjoying your cycling very much, a fitting would be money well spent. Saddle height, bar height and position, cleat positioning on the shoes etc
Marginal changes normally, but have a huge impact, both on comfort and power generation.

there are loads of companies out there who do it, and it made a massive difference to my comfort and performance.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: DavidL on February 11, 2016, 19:11:56 PM
Did you notice much of a difference performance/comfort wise during and afterwards?

I have been only using my winter aluminium Planet X since September, and an older knackered Decathlon thing on my Turbo trainer

I imagine when I get the carbon bike out it will feel like I have been on EPO all winter!!!!
I'll probably be out on the mountain bike this weekend - just serviced and new forks fitted. It'll probably feel like being on a Raleigh Shopper after the carbon flyer!
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on February 11, 2016, 19:49:08 PM
Thanks a lot for the suggestion and advice, Jonners. A bike fit does appeal, but I've just looked up the cost and given that I might upgrade that bike in another year or two, probably a bit too pricy. I've been aware that it's not optimally set up for a while, but will try to adjust it myself. I did improve matters by moving the seat back a few cm but it's still not there yet.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on February 12, 2016, 09:14:33 AM
Thanks a lot for the suggestion and advice, Jonners. A bike fit does appeal, but I've just looked up the cost and given that I might upgrade that bike in another year or two, probably a bit too pricy. I've been aware that it's not optimally set up for a while, but will try to adjust it myself. I did improve matters by moving the seat back a few cm but it's still not there yet.

Its a trial and error thing normally. The Internet will give you an idea of the optimum bend/angle of the knee when bending and straightening etc

What you can do, which made a big difference to me, is alter the stem, which if you are not sure what it is, is shown below in a picture. they are all reversible, so if you take it off and turn it the other way up, it will change the angle, and normally make the handlebar angle higher and more friendly, so you are not reaching quite so much.

(http://sulmlgnltlyql7h5ue629b1.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/mlsbt-4364-bicycle_stem-90mm_17-degrees.jpg)

Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on February 12, 2016, 10:42:28 AM
Yes, I had thought about having a shorter stem fitted. I do have a torque wrench, so could do it myself quite easily. Mine isn't angled so I can't adjust the angle that way. A friend improved things by "slamming the stem" - moving spacers from under it and placing them over the top, to lower it. But in my case that could even make things worse.

Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on February 12, 2016, 10:54:25 AM
If your wrists are hurting, you need the stem higher, and the bars closer to you so that would definitely help, mine was a mixture of the after effects of wrist surgery, and relieving an achey back on long rides.

You can pick a stem up for peanuts, either on the sites like Wiggle, Chain reaction, PlanetX, or even eBay. I would try and get one with an angle too definitely so you can experiment.
Easily done with allen keys.

A second layer of tape would most definitely help, although I imagine the process of getting it wrapped perfectly would play nicely with your more analytical nature!!!
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on February 12, 2016, 17:23:40 PM
LOL! That's very perceptive, Jonners. I think I will invest in a shorter, angled stem. Sounds like a plan. In the meantime I'll experiment with moving the seat forward a bit, and perhaps a touch lower.

Did the usual lunchtime route, very slightly extended by indecision and faffing. 13.17. That's 82.44 this month, 301.67 this year. And 3004 miles since I started cycling in earnest at the start of last year.

Chilly easterly wind threatened for tomorrow but no rain, so I shall do my Saturday 25 miler all being well.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on February 13, 2016, 20:33:31 PM
I did the Saturday 25 miler with a mild hangover, but that only made the cold breeze in my face more refreshing. Took the road bike out - I'd adjusted the seat forward a couple of cm and lowered it a touch in the hope that I'd be putting a bit less weight on my wrists, but I don't think it made a lot of difference.


Two WPCs on horseback smiled very pleasantly as they came the other way as I approached Twycross.


Very, very annoyingly since I've managed to protect the Boardman from precipitation so far, and despite my assertion in my previous post, it started raining lightly just after I turned northward through Sheepy Magna. I'd been having an excellent time until then, but cold drizzle blowing onto my face and making my legs damp (not to mention the bike) was a real downer for the next few miles. By the time I was north of Ibstock though, the rain had dried up. It hadn't rained at all at home apparently, so if I'd planned a route to the north instead of the south, I'd have avoided the rain altogether.


As I neared Market Bosworth I saw something suspicious to the left of the road .. I stopped for a moment to see what was happening. Three blokes in smart hunting clothing were loitering in a field. A couple of minutes later, two rabbits or hares ran across the same field. I could hear dogs in the distance. I do hope I wasn't watching hare coursing.


I gave the bike a good rub down and a judicious application of GT85 to repel moisture once I got home. I gave the chain a good seeing to so I'll relube it before I go out on it again.

Anyway, 25.6 miles. 108 so far this month despite the weather and 327 this year.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on February 13, 2016, 21:27:38 PM
Graduated from my nursery five mile circuit to my infant's 7.25 mile circuit today. Did it more quickly than my first run round it last year. Which was nice.

What wasn't nice was having my attempt at a quick time on the Strava segment Flash Past the Crem completely kiboshed.  It's a nice mile long gentle descent which has been into the wind every other time I've been out, but today was a nice North Easter following wind. However despite the road being a 40 limit it has a speed camera on it. Consequently all the dumbass idiots who ignore road signage go down the hill at 30. Today I didn't get above 29. Thanks old woman from over the road >:(
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on February 14, 2016, 10:56:33 AM
Found a nice old film from the '50s about a group of cyclists who set off from Rugby station for a day's cycling  in Warwickshire, Leics and Northampton, not that far from my own cycling playground.

http://player.bfi.org.uk/film/watch-cyclists-special-1956/

Nice reference to "a touch of the bonk", guarded against by the consumption of sandwiches and beer. Energy bars and isotonic sports drinks obviously weren't in vogue 50 years ago.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on February 14, 2016, 17:06:34 PM
Planned a 19 mile route down to Markfield through Ibstock and back through Copt Oak. Beautiful day, cold, but sunny.

Somehow I got lost south of Bagworth, just like I did last time I did this route over the Xmas hols. It seems to be NW Leicestershire's Bermuda Triangle. Anyway I followed signs to Thornton, past the reservoir there and found Markfield easily enough from there. Lovely trip out. I picked up a few flecks of snow or possibly light hail coming out of Markfield, but not enough to dampen my spirits. Or indeed the bike.

It's actually snowing quite hard here now so that was pretty good timing (I got back about an hour ago).

23.23 miles, 131 this month, 351 this year.

Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on February 14, 2016, 18:01:50 PM
Did my infants run of 7.25 miles again today. Working my way back into it slowly, bit of a chilly NE wind but clear skies with the sun actually feeling warm in sheltered spots. Might be getting a tad fitter as my average heart rate was below 160 today. Also managed to beat my best time on the Dash past the Crem segment. Still only got up to 34 mph and I know I can get to 40 on it. so plenty of room to improve. I noticed one of the top times was set by a guy called Mark Walsham, I thought the name sounded familiar, Google showed why, he was a local pro ride from the late 80s.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: DavidL on February 14, 2016, 18:32:23 PM
Took the mountain bike out for a spin this morning. Nice smooth ride after the service and with the new Rockshox forks. The ability to lock them out is great on the road. Did a route of about 15 miles containing a mix of road and very muddy bridleway. Pleased not to have any 'offs' on the numerous sections of exposed tree routes. Even more pleased that the bike performed so well (for an old'un) even with everything caked in mud. Splendid fun!
The only downer was Map My Ride failed to work on this, my first attempt at using it. I assumed it would work in the background with the phone on standby (as does Ski Tracks). Hopefully I can sort something out for my next excursion. It felt like we went a little too far considering I'd not been out for weeks and saved myself from 'the bonk' with a brunch bar after about an hour and a half. Absolutely murdered a lovely roast.

Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on February 15, 2016, 09:47:27 AM
32 miles yesterday as a fasted ride before breakfast, beautiful chilly sunny morning, averaged about 17mph. Interesting how I cruise along at a nice pace without realising
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on February 15, 2016, 17:49:38 PM
Did the usual lunchtime route, without the Ibstock diversion as I guessed that Heather Lane would be dry enough this time (it was). Very cold (about 2 degrees) and I forgot to take my full finger gloves out to the garage, so I made do with the fingerless cycling gloves I had in there. Only my left thumb suffered conspicuously.

Quite sunny. I took the hybrid rather than the road bike as the skies were a bit threatening, but the dark clouds dissipated after ten minutes.

Also gave a new DAB personal its maiden voyage.

11.54 miles. 362 this year, 143 this month.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on February 16, 2016, 09:55:11 AM
Cold on my commute this morning, hands got cold and it was only an 11 minute ride
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on February 16, 2016, 17:24:08 PM
I took the old road to Ashby and back. Only 10.04 miles but a nice change. Sunny, but cold and a bit blowy on the exposed stretch over Alton Hill.

372 miles done in 2016.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on February 16, 2016, 17:28:06 PM
Doing this on Saturday. Weather report seems to suggest warmer and not too wet or windy, so might be a nice ride:-

http://www.beaconrcc.org.uk/audax/express/index.html

Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on February 17, 2016, 09:34:53 AM
And doing this in April, your neck of the woods isn't it James?

http://www.itpevents.co.uk/event/the-dare-2b-rutland-cicle-tour

Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on February 17, 2016, 18:11:05 PM
Not quite but it's only a 40 mile drive. Had a look at the 20 mile route, looks hilly!

https://ridewithgps.com/routes/7482273
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on February 20, 2016, 19:00:43 PM
Mind you I bet the 104 mile route is even more spiky
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on February 20, 2016, 21:22:28 PM
Looks like I didn't go out for a ride on Thursday. So, why do my legs ache?
Probably because I went out on Friday - and did things more slowly than on Thursday.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: NeilP on February 21, 2016, 00:32:13 AM
I must say, I'm full of admiration for you guys getting out on the iron horse at this time of year... for me, a warm garage and the turbo-trainer will have to suffice... keep the faith fellas!
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on February 21, 2016, 00:45:47 AM
Cheers Neil!  Despite a threat of rain I took the hybrid out this morning (Sat) and fashioned a route through Coleorton, Church Town and Ibstock. It did start to rain after 5 miles or so, but I stayed out anyway as a sort of penance for doing less than 7 yesterday. 12.66 miles done.

403.55 miles done in 2016.

In other news:

A new, shorter stem for the road bike plopped through the door on Friday so armed with some copper grease and a torque wrench, I removed the old one and fitted it. Took it for a test ride later in the day (only 6.75 miles, but I noticed I hadn't quite put the bars back on straight) and it does make a big difference. I still need to do a bit of fine-tuning with the seat, and because I up-angled the stem it makes the bars a fair bit higher so I might drop them one spacer as well. Definitely getting there.

The new stem actually looks the part more than the old one, oddly enough - has glossy paint and the same red/black/white colour scheme as the bike. It does make the steering slightly less stable, but it's fine.

I noticed the rear Disraeli has started changing up of its own volition, so that's my next job. Never a dull moment.

Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on February 21, 2016, 10:03:45 AM
I must say, I'm full of admiration for you guys getting out on the iron horse at this time of year... for me, a warm garage and the turbo-trainer will have to suffice... keep the faith fellas!
I only have a cold garage and can't afford/be arsed with a turbo trainer.
Today looks a bit windy to be out on the bike.  :( :) ??? ::) :P :-[ :-X
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on February 21, 2016, 15:04:09 PM
Went out to my own cold garage to drop the road bike handlebars a couple of spacers and straighten them out, then moved the saddle back a few mm. Also gave the thumbwheel on the rear derailleur a half turn  to address the ghost change problem. The weather was relatively mild so I thought I'd try out my adjustments on the Belton Figure Of Eight. But I was having such a nice time flying along Ashby road that I decided to keep going instead of turning off for Belton, so I headed toward Shepshed.

Big mistake. I soon realised why I'd been flying along Ashby road so quickly; I had a gale force wind at my back. Coming back the other way, I had to battle for every metre of progress. An absolute ordeal on the long steep approach to Whitwick, and even when I made it to level terrain I had to struggle to keep moving forward. To make things worse the gears are still out of whack and I couldn't get into the bottom two gears. Had to stop for a rest and my heart was thumping out of my chest.

Anyway I made it back, and by the time I rolled up to the garage door I had done 16.59 miles. Didn't seem that blowy when I left, but some parts of Leics are more exposed than others.

201 this month, 420 this year. I'll have a look at the rear Disraeli tomorrow, I've had enough of bikes for today.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: DavidL on February 21, 2016, 22:42:20 PM
Took to the mountain bike today and did a reasonably tough 25.3 miles. Roughly half road and half track. Very windy with some strong gusts which made the road sections at times a bit of a struggle. The woodland paths provided some pleasant shelter.
 Managed to get Map My Ride working which was pleasing. Very tired legs for the second Sunday running.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on February 22, 2016, 09:47:15 AM
The Beacon CC Audax was hard work on Saturday, very windy and bumpier than I expected. Averaged 16.5mph over the 74 miles, glad I used my good bike or it would have been even harder! 850 for the year

One very short, but very very steep Hill called Pig Hill, which is next to a pig farm, so standing up, lowest possible gear, terrible smell of pig shit and a howling gail made me question my sanity for a while

Decided I like Audax, maybe even more than Sportive. More of a friendly, relaxed atmos rather than racing along. café stops rather than roadside feedstations, all ages and sexes, even a few tandems

On the plus side, there was a guy afterwards who had bought up a load of stock from a cycle shop that had gone bump, got some very nice BBB glasses with 3 interchangeable lenses for £20 instead of £75
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on February 22, 2016, 14:39:54 PM
Presently sorting out my rear Disraeli using a guide at http://www.artscyclery.com/learningcenter/shimanorearderailleurs.html

Don't have a bike stand, so my road bike is currently upside down on the floor of one of the reception rooms downstairs. Risking the ire of 'er indoors if it's not all done in the next couple of hours.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on February 22, 2016, 16:24:12 PM
Just remember, when its upside down it means everything is upside down, so the chain will hang differently etc as well.

My bike man says the best way to do it is turn the thumbwheel fully one way, then gradually start doing the turns a quarter the other way until your gears are clicking in nicely

Im sure the guide has said it, but turn the thumbwheel in the direction you are having problems changing in. ie if you are having issues changing into the bigger cogs, then turn the thumb wheel that way too
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on February 22, 2016, 16:28:44 PM
Velothon Wales 2016 route just announced, all looks lovely until about 80km.....

http://www.velothon-wales.co.uk/en/route/route-information/interactive-route-map-2016-route/#map




Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on February 22, 2016, 16:40:12 PM
I actually have a bike stand arriving tomorrow, now. Too annoying adjusting limit screws etc on my back.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on February 22, 2016, 21:28:18 PM
Having typed that, an hour later I decided I couldn't leave it alone and I very patiently adjusted the limit screws and cable tensioners for both front and rear derailleurs to extreme anal precision. It was dark by the time I was finished of course but I decided a test ride was in order, so I swapped the lights off the hybrid and set off along the main road to Ibstock.

Everything is working very nicely, I'm happy to report - I tried every gear change I could think of in both directions and they were all sweet and snappy, better than they were before they started playing up, in fact.

Unfortunately on the way to Ibstock I heard the rear light clatter on the road behind - it wasn't damaged but I clearly hadn't attached it to the seat post properly and I'd lost a bolt. Turned around for home, cautiously aiming the rear light behind me in my right hand and steering with my left.

Probably did about 3 miles but I don't count 'em for less than 5, so consider that a freebie.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on February 23, 2016, 15:00:15 PM
Wanted to go to the office today and thought of cycling in, but the hassle of taking sensible footwear in addition to a laptop in a backpack was enough to put me off. Maybe I should put the stock pedals back on the hybrid. Anyway instead I did the regular lunchtime route on the road bike, very pleased with my fine-tuning with the gears and fairly happy with the overall setup. I dare say it's not perfect but it's close enough; the shorter stem has definitely helped.

Lovely day out there, calm, sunny, dry. Not that cold. Would have been a perfect day for the 25 miler, what a shame I didn't have more time.

I did 11.51, which takes me to 212 this month, 432 this year. Weather looks decent for the next week so that extra February day might just give me a chance of hitting 500 before March.

Bike stand has arrived, but I haven't taken it out of the box yet.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on February 24, 2016, 17:33:52 PM
I did the non-Belton Figure Of Eight on the road bike, 12.2 miles. Very bright sunny day, but a bit cold. "Lovely day for a ride!" observed the old bird who overtook me on her bike coming through Swannington, and indeed it was.

225 this month, more than I expected and I'm not done yet :D

444 done in 2016.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on February 25, 2016, 09:38:51 AM
Getting my carbon bike re fitted for me tonight. After 1 ride on it at the weekend (albeit 84 miles) my back has been shocking. Its quite an aggressive ride position, so hopefully we can raise the bars a bit and reach less. Gladly sacrifice some aerodynamics if my back stops hurting!
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on February 25, 2016, 09:46:45 AM
Noticed that the road bike tyres are wearing down a bit .. they are Vittoria Zaffiro 700x25s that came with the bike in August. I hope I'll get another few hundred miles out of them, but any recommendations when the time comes to replace? Durability and puncture resistance are more important than speed.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on February 25, 2016, 10:05:06 AM
Noticed that the road bike tyres are wearing down a bit .. they are Vittoria Zaffiro 700x25s that came with the bike in August. I hope I'll get another few hundred miles out of them, but any recommendations when the time comes to replace? Durability and puncture resistance are more important than speed.

Many many options, as is always the case with bikes, and a variety of price ranges

http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/reviews?review_category=tyres&review_manufacturer=&review_type=&min_price=&max_price=&period=&s=&orderby=date

I use Continental gatorskins on my winter bike, they are bullet proof with a Kevlar layer. They are quite firm, and putting them on is a little harder than some other tyres because of this. Don't let that put you off though. They run fine, not the fastest, but very durable.

http://www.wiggle.co.uk/continental-gatorskin-folding-road-tyre/


On my carbon bike, on the advice of a lot of quality cyclists, I have switched to these:-

http://www.wiggle.co.uk/continental-grand-prix-4000s-ii-folding-road-tyre/

They also have very good durability and puncture protection, but are much lighter than a gator, and run beautifully. I notice a difference straight away with them. I panicked when they came out of the packet, as they are so light and flimsy looking. Looks can be deceiving!!! The man who services my bikes uses them all year round, and has had 1 puncture in 2 years.

Whatever you buy, make sure you go for 25mm tyres. so much more comfort than a 23mm, and the theory is they are actually faster.

And if in doubt, don't ride at the edge of the road

Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on February 25, 2016, 12:09:20 PM
Thanks, Jonners! Very useful.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on February 25, 2016, 12:50:44 PM
My pleasure

As with all things, everyone has an opinion. Gators may cost you "vital seconds" over a ride, but not as many seconds as a puncture!!!
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on February 25, 2016, 13:20:05 PM
Just read this http://road.cc/content/review/149583-continental-grand-prix-4000s-ii-28mm-tyres

Wonder if 28mm is worth a try? Might be a touch heavier and offer a little bit more resistance, but the roads are not exactly mirror smooth round these parts.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on February 25, 2016, 14:04:51 PM
If the frame can take it, then why not
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on February 25, 2016, 15:05:21 PM
I replaced my front Vittoria Zaffiro with a Continental Gatorskin last year after getting a big piece of flint through it. I'll shortly be replacing my rear Vittoria Zaffiro with a Continental Gatorskin as they're wearing down a bit now. I didn't find the Gatorskins any harder to put on than any other tyre - but then I struggle with all of them.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on February 25, 2016, 15:54:19 PM
I replaced my front Vittoria Zaffiro with a Continental Gatorskin last year after getting a big piece of flint through it. I'll shortly be replacing my rear Vittoria Zaffiro with a Continental Gatorskin as they're wearing down a bit now. I didn't find the Gatorskins any harder to put on than any other tyre - but then I struggle with all of them.

Some nice tips on Youtube re tyres, but if I was going to offer one (well actually two) bits of advice:-

1: Make sure the last bit of tyre you are fitting in isn't anywhere near the valve. That is the hardest part to do it at

2: Have a tiny bit of pressure in the inner tube while doing it as it will help grip the wall of the tyre to the rim of the wheel as you go round
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on February 25, 2016, 16:17:12 PM
Some nice tips on Youtube re tyres, but if I was going to offer one (well actually two) bits of advice:-

1: Make sure the last bit of tyre you are fitting in isn't anywhere near the valve. That is the hardest part to do it at

2: Have a tiny bit of pressure in the inner tube while doing it as it will help grip the wall of the tyre to the rim of the wheel as you go round
My dad gave me that advice when I was a kid. I'm just a klutz...
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on February 25, 2016, 16:21:26 PM
My dad gave me that advice when I was a kid. I'm just a klutz...

He was talking about a Penny Farthing at the time though......
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on February 25, 2016, 16:54:32 PM
He was talking about a Penny Farthing at the time though......
Oi! He's not that old!!!

Although I'm sure he said his bike was fixed gear and solid tyres...
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on February 25, 2016, 17:21:29 PM
My first bike (well, tricycle) had solid tyres. My older brother had a fixie, he used to entertain us by cycling backwards a few feet.

Took the road bike out on the time-honoured lunch break route through Heather, Swepstone, past Measham and back through Packington along Ashby Road. Didn't take the detour through Ibstock as Heather Lane is dry for a change.

11.52. 455 done this year, 236 this month. Hoping to hit 500 this year by 29th Feb.

Oh and the hedgerow underwear season is back; I spotted a discarded bra by the roadside near Swepstone.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: DavidL on February 25, 2016, 19:14:40 PM

Oh and the hedgerow underwear season is back; I spotted a discarded bra by the roadside near Swepstone.
Shame the internet has put paid to the discarded carrier bag of jazz mags in the hedgerow - like finding the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow as a kid!
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on February 25, 2016, 19:32:05 PM
I did see a discarded copy of Razzle not far from Osgathorpe a few months ago. I prefer knickers anyway to be honest.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on February 25, 2016, 20:17:13 PM
Got my new cycling gear today, a pair of bib tights - in which I look like Freddie Mercury - and a long sleeve top.
Now when I go out, I won't be the old bloke in his street clothes giving it some welly on his bike, but an old bloke dressed like a pro cycling like an old woman...
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on February 25, 2016, 21:57:47 PM
I have three pairs of cycling tights now, in black, grey and red. I prefer the black ones as the others have marks from the chain unfortunately and they haven't come out in the wash. Maybe I'll spray them with WD40 before I wash them next time.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: DavidL on February 26, 2016, 07:18:57 AM
I have three pairs of cycling tights now, in black, grey and red. I prefer the black ones as the others have marks from the chain unfortunately and they haven't come out in the wash. Maybe I'll spray them with WD40 before I wash them next time.
You could try Vanish or just a drop of fairy liquid and a bit of elbow grease. To get your hands clean after thumbing through that copy of Razzle though might require something stronger  ;)
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Bez on February 26, 2016, 07:35:00 AM
Barely thawed out all day here, I wouldn't of taken my chances.

"have"  ;)
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on February 26, 2016, 09:50:02 AM
Im a big fan of DHB bib tights, which is Wiggle's own brand, and are very good quality and value.

I did, however, treat myself to a pair of Funkier ones in the sales, and to be fair there is a big difference in quality, mainly in the padding and the thickness of the lycra

Anyway, had my bikes refitted for me last night, lower saddle, higher bars, slighter bigger angle on the saddle as well to stop my hips straining

Will give it a blast tomorrow and see if any changes occur
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: DavidL on February 26, 2016, 12:18:08 PM
"have"  ;)
That was a dreadful error on my part, you were right to point it out  -thanks :-[
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: DavidL on February 26, 2016, 12:30:18 PM
Im a big fan of DHB bib tights, which is Wiggle's own brand, and are very good quality and value.

I did, however, treat myself to a pair of Funkier ones in the sales, and to be fair there is a big difference in quality, mainly in the padding and the thickness of the lycra

Anyway, had my bikes refitted for me last night, lower saddle, higher bars, slighter bigger angle on the saddle as well to stop my hips straining

Will give it a blast tomorrow and see if any changes occur
i suffered a bit with my hips last week. What would you suggest with the saddle?
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Bez on February 26, 2016, 14:04:49 PM
That was a dreadful error on my part, you were right to point it out  -thanks :-[
glad to help.... ;)
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on February 26, 2016, 14:06:00 PM
i suffered a bit with my hips last week. What would you suggest with the saddle?

Im no expert at all on set up, one thing my feller said last night which made sense was simply make the set up "friendlier" if you are suffering with backs/hips, so lower saddle, higher handlebars (small changes, not massive ones) and obviously make sure at the bottom of the pedal stroke there is a bend in the knee, not straight leg.

if you angle the front of the saddle down slightly, that will naturally make you push your hips and back forward, rather than having to bend at the waist.

he did say to me ,when he questioned what I had been up to, that last weekend was very windy, and often in windier conditions people tend to strain and push in higher gears/lower cadence than they would normally, resulting in you losing some form/technique, so that will have also contributed to my back, and potentially your hips. if you can, look down now and again when you are peddling to make sure your hips aren't wriggling around too much, and your knees are tracking nice and straight, rather than wobbling around or sticking out to the sides.

Like any sport, technique is king, but apparently in bad weather and wind its very easy to ride badly, and thus injure  yourself.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on February 26, 2016, 17:34:21 PM
I did an alternative route at lunchtime, with less elevation according to http://www.bikehike.co.uk but for some reason I found it hillier and harder going, and it wasn't particularly blowy. Checked the Mio's history when I got back out of curiosity, and my average speed was about 0.75mph lower (I don't normally care about speed or times, but was curious to see if it actually was a harder route, as it seemed). There are other variables of course but it's hard to understand why it's slower if it's flatter.

Anyway it made a change. Not a particularly fun route really as it goes through a couple of small towns and is not nearly so rural as my usual rides. I like to be out on my own in the middle of nowhere best of all.

13.3, 249 done this month, 469 this year. The weather looks promising enough for me to get up to 500 before March.


Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: DavidL on February 26, 2016, 23:01:53 PM
Im no expert at all on set up, one thing my feller said last night which made sense was simply make the set up "friendlier" if you are suffering with backs/hips, so lower saddle, higher handlebars (small changes, not massive ones) and obviously make sure at the bottom of the pedal stroke there is a bend in the knee, not straight leg.

if you angle the front of the saddle down slightly, that will naturally make you push your hips and back forward, rather than having to bend at the waist.

he did say to me ,when he questioned what I had been up to, that last weekend was very windy, and often in windier conditions people tend to strain and push in higher gears/lower cadence than they would normally, resulting in you losing some form/technique, so that will have also contributed to my back, and potentially your hips. if you can, look down now and again when you are peddling to make sure your hips aren't wriggling around too much, and your knees are tracking nice and straight, rather than wobbling around or sticking out to the sides.

Like any sport, technique is king, but apparently in bad weather and wind its very easy to ride badly, and thus injure  yourself.
Thanks for the advice. I may make some minor adjustments this weekend - cheers
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on February 27, 2016, 08:30:06 AM
Got up early with the thought of cycling to Derby and back (17 miles there, same route back). But it's so gloomy at the moment .. the forecast even threatens "wintry showers" as a faint probability. Oh well I can always turn back at Melbourne if it's too dismal.

It's actually a very pleasantly rural route until you hit the outskirts of Derby, at which point the last few miles in are of course rather urban. I'll take the hybrid I think if I do go.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nick on February 27, 2016, 13:44:56 PM
Getting back into it with a 15 mile ride  (856ft elev) through the cold but sunlit mid-Devon countryside this morning. Way off my standard time but just glad to get started again.
As an aside due to a lot of business travel this month i started planking in the morning (insert joke here), i think it has helped strengthen my lower back and strengthened up the torso a bit which seemed to have a positive effect on my cycling.

Anyway looking forward to getting out more.

Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on February 27, 2016, 14:37:58 PM
Im a big fan of DHB bib tights, which is Wiggle's own brand, and are very good quality and value.

They're what I bought. Just about to give them a first run out.

Like Nick, I too have started planking. Mrs S wondered what on earth I was doing first time she caught me doing it in the bedroom (inset joke here)
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on February 27, 2016, 15:04:31 PM
I did cycle into Derby. Surprisingly painless on the way in once I'd got used to the cold, but it's mostly downhill. 16.74 miles in, locked the hybrid to a bike stand in Derby city centre, changed into non-cleated footwear and headed to Pizza Express for a Fiorentia and diet coke. The saving grace of this route, apart from the promise of pizza at the end is that the last few miles are very level, which makes up for the traffic and the slightly grim industrial scenes here and there. Had a look round the watch shops for half an hour, then headed back to the bike stand. Relieved to find that my means of transport home was still there (I did take a very flimsy bike lock, perhaps unwisely but at least it's very light).

I'd intended to stop at a pub on the way back for a rest but didn't seem to need it and didn't want to lose momentum, so I kept going. The uphill stretches were a bit wearing though, maybe I'll make more of a day of it next time and stop for a sandwich or a coffee at a pub near Swarkestone bridge. Took a slightly different route for the last few miles in, 17.6 miles.

Anyway that takes me to 503 done this year, and 284 this month.

No rain at all. Cloudy on the way out, quite bright on the way back.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on February 27, 2016, 16:32:51 PM
Just been out and done my fourteen miler. Thought my new cycling clobber had worked miracles, because I did it nine minutes faster than last time out and three minutes faster than I'd ever done it before. Seem as if there was a bit of a GPS failure half way round when I analyse things, have to enable GLONASS next time I'm out. I still use my freebie Halfords cycling "computer" which tells me that I was three and a half minutes quicker than last week. I'll settle for that. It would have been quicker, if the Audi - which I'd foolishly waved past me on a single track lane - hadn't been involved in a Mexican stand off with a Transit Van coming the other way.

It was a bitter NE wind today, my feet were like blocks of ice when I got back.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on February 28, 2016, 13:10:31 PM
Set out on the road bike intending to do a slightly extended version of the Belton Figure Of Eight to get this month's mile tally up to 300, but on what should have been a modest detour I missed a turn and ended up at Diseworth, then past East Mids Airport and Donington Park. I made exactly the same error one evening last year. So I gave myself another 5 miles to do which I could have done without, really.

Anyway, another 21.31 miles in the bag which takes me to 305 this month and 524 this year. Pleased to have done more than 300 - I only managed that in August and September last year.

Finding myself sitting on the back of the saddle a bit, which tells me that it needs to be adjusted back a bit of course. Not sure how much adjustment it has in it, though. Will have a look later.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nick on February 28, 2016, 14:01:04 PM
Another 14 miler today but my legs felt tired, anyway at this stage in the year I just need to get some miles in regardless and the fitness will slowly return. Nice day again down here in the South West. May think about a ride up to Exmoor next weekend, hopefully the legs will be recovered and up for a bit of climbing.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on February 28, 2016, 16:53:23 PM
Did the 14 miles again today. Same weather conditions as yesterday, albeit a bit sunnier. Did it a minute and twenty quicker than yesterday, probably due to not meeting traffic up the single track road. Managed to average over 17mph overall today, it took me to the end of August to do it that quickly last year.

Probably did it more quickly as I was a bit miffed that my HRM appears to have stopped working.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: DavidL on February 28, 2016, 17:38:48 PM
20 miles on the mud plugger this morning, mostly off-road - just under two hours in the saddle. Some nice, exhilarating, fast single track through the woods - bike handling really well. Perfect conditions now the bridleways are drying out a little. Only saw one other off-roader which tells me that road cycling is still much more popular at the moment.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on February 29, 2016, 14:50:14 PM
Took the road bike out on the regular lunch break route through Heather, past Measham, back round through Packington and over Alton Hill. 11.51. Seat moved back just a little and a touch higher. Improved things a bit I think.

That's it for this month, and today's 11.51 brings the February total to 316.6 - which is my second-highest monthly tally on record, ie since Jan 2015.

536 done this year and I'm over 25% to target.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on February 29, 2016, 15:15:44 PM
I'm at 953 for the year, 47 under target, but I blame the short month and injuries.

My plan going forward is to do a minimum of 1 long "organised ride" a month til winter, I have March, April and May in the diary so far
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on March 01, 2016, 21:48:51 PM
Got a gatorskin on the rear now too. It was bit stiff getting it on - and the tyre was hard work too - but it got there after I went a bit Basil Fawlty on it.
Only problem is, is I've put it on back to front so it's rolling the wrong way...
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on March 02, 2016, 09:12:44 AM
Wondering if other people give a toss about cadence? I don't personally, and have never measured it. All I do is keep on top of the gears so I'm pedalling nice and easy without applying too much force, where possible. Years ago I wouldn't even have thought about it and I didn't change down nearly as often as I do now. But I'm more careful not to wear out my old legs these days, especially because it's usually uphill for the last few miles back home - so I try to conserve my energy.

But sometimes I see cyclists with nice bikes and all the gear (so I assume they know what they're doing), and their legs will be whizzing round the pedals a fair bit more quickly than mine would at the same speed. Considering you're propelling the weight of both legs up and down and rotating relatively heavy pedals + cranks with every revolution of the pedal axle, that seems unwise, intuitively.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on March 02, 2016, 09:24:33 AM
Wondering if other people give a toss about cadence? I don't personally, and have never measured it. All I do is keep on top of the gears so I'm pedalling nice and easy without applying too much force, where possible. Years ago I wouldn't even have thought about it and I didn't change down nearly as often as I do now. But I'm more careful not to wear out my old legs these days, especially because it's usually uphill for the last few miles back home - so I try to conserve my energy.

But sometimes I see cyclists with nice bikes and all the gear (so I assume they know what they're doing), and their legs will be whizzing round the pedals a fair bit more quickly than mine would at the same speed. Considering you're propelling the weight of both legs up and down and rotating relatively heavy pedals + cranks with every revolution of the pedal axle, that seems unwise, intuitively.

Cadence is very important, but each rider has different levels.

For instance, Bradley Wiggins likes to ride in quite a high cadence, whereas other pros will use bigger gears and less revolutions.

If you are going to improve, the simple fact is that if you can increase the cadence you naturally ride at in each gear, say from 70-80, you will go faster. No rocket science there.

the more important issue though, is that riding in low cadence in tough gears is very tough on the muscles. So my tip, and one which is now serving me very well from the venerable Chris Boardman who I met, is find a cadence that you are comfortable with, and alter your gears accordingly so you stick to it.

Obviously, now and again there will be a bugger of a hill where you are out of the saddle and grinding it out, but even then it is much more efficient to stay sat down, get in a low gear and keep the revs going.

http://www.bikeradar.com/gear/article/technique-cadence-matters-16394/

Clear as mud?
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on March 02, 2016, 14:16:33 PM
No that does seem pretty straightforward, thanks Jonners. It's also pretty much what I do now, so that's encouraging.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on March 02, 2016, 14:27:44 PM
Lots and lots of bollocks talked in cycling about marginal gains, shaving a gram here, a cm of cloth there., and when push comes to shove, it all costs money

However, when you add them all together like Brailsford did at Sky, you get a winning formula.

I have realised at last that I am not going to turn pro or do the TdF, so the spending has largely stopped.

However, without doubt, and many others will say this to you, but the big change you will notice is in wheels. Good wheels with less flex will mean greater power delivery, the more weight you can lose on the tyres and wheels as well will make a huge difference (rotating weight etc etc), better wheels have better hubs so again better performance, and obviously if they are bomb proof all the better

Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on March 02, 2016, 14:46:16 PM
With regards to cadence, I've just ordered a cadence sensor to go with my Garmin Vivoactive. It might be the Accountant in me, but I like looking at numbers, the more the better.
However, I do suspect that I tend to cycle too often at a lower cadence in a higher gear, probably down to having a 5 speed bike in my teens to late twenties. If I find that’s the case and that I can achieve the same speeds with a higer cadence and lower gear with less muscle strain, then so much the better.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: NeilP on March 02, 2016, 15:01:33 PM
Cadence is all. Top cyclists have always spun the gears, most of us push too high a gear and lose out... quite a skill to master tho
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on March 02, 2016, 15:02:52 PM
sensible stuff.

80-85 is a good cadence to aim for, keep those legs spinning nicely.

if you register (for free) with Strava as well, your garmin will link to it via Garmin Express, which is also free, and will show your speeds/estimated power output, and cadence across the whole ride.

Strava really is very good, and its free

www.strava.com

Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on March 02, 2016, 15:03:41 PM
And you can upload most data to it manually as well if you don't use one of the more recognised brands of GPS products.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: döm on March 02, 2016, 15:27:35 PM
I suppose it's getting the balance right between  leg strength and lung capacity
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on March 02, 2016, 15:34:33 PM
I suppose it's getting the balance right between  leg strength and lung capacity

I think most if not all of us are not training to be a sprinter like Hoy or Cavendish, so leg strength, while important, isn't the be all end all believe it or not.

As Neil said, cadence is key, develop a nice fluid cycling style and pace, get used to eating and drinking plenty before and during, and obviously develop some nice cardio fitness

This is of course aimed mainly at us "roadies", I haven't got a scooby doo about MTB, I think having a screw loose and a powerful garden hose are the  two key requisites..........
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on March 02, 2016, 15:48:57 PM
I suppose it's getting the balance right between  leg strength and lung capacity
It's the Lungs that let me down. I had Pleurisy as a kid and used to get every cough and cold going.
I had a job where we had a medical every year and I never did well on the "Blow Job" to measure lung capacity. I've started running up and down stairs a lot at home and am slowly building up the number of repetitions before getting out of breath, but I'm going to have to stop as I'm wearing the carpet out...
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: döm on March 02, 2016, 16:20:56 PM
Must drive your family potty!

I have a similar story, with latent asthma impacting on breathing capacity. Legs are pretty pathetic too if I'm honest!
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on March 02, 2016, 17:30:47 PM
Must drive your family potty!

I have a similar story, with latent asthma impacting on breathing capacity. Legs are pretty pathetic too if I'm honest!

I imagine this could bring on a shortage of breath then:

https://www.assosfactoryoutlet.com/women/knickers-tights/?utm_campaign=Women%27s+clothing+Sale+&utm_source=emailCampaign&utm_medium=email&utm_content=

Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: NeilP on March 02, 2016, 18:32:34 PM
they're expensive kecks for the lasses aren't they?
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on March 02, 2016, 20:14:50 PM
Must drive your family potty!
Among many things...

Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: andyhaines on March 02, 2016, 21:09:21 PM
I'm at 953 for the year, 47 under target, but I blame the short month and injuries.

My plan going forward is to do a minimum of 1 long "organised ride" a month til winter, I have March, April and May in the diary so far
Good effort. I've managed about 713 miles so far for January and February, and haven't been out on the road bike at all. Most of the mileage made up of the work commute plus a couple of 35-40 mile rides. Looking forward to the fist week of the Easter hols...hopefully it will be dry and I'll get the road bike out for a few longer rides (got the kids the second week).  :)
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on March 03, 2016, 09:21:16 AM
Light nights are on the way thank god, bored to tears of the turbo trainer, albeit an hour of intervals does the trick fitness wise
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on March 03, 2016, 13:40:46 PM
http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/reviews/jackets/planet-x-hydrosphere-waterproof-jacket

just bought one of these, for £50 instead of £100 .

Its is a really, really nice waterproof top, and fantastic value
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nick on March 04, 2016, 16:47:37 PM
Tempted to go carbon, will I notice the difference?
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on March 04, 2016, 20:14:59 PM
To your bank balance? Yes.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on March 05, 2016, 18:24:32 PM
Upped the mileage to 22 today, with almost 1,000 ft of climbing. Ended up doing a dumbbell shaped route, with the outward half being easier than the return thanks to a brisk Norherly wind.
First time using my cadence sensor today. What did I learn? Well, I averaged a cadence of 90 and found that on the flat I was pedalling with a cadence of about 75, but if I dropped down a gear and upped the cadence to 90 then there was no loss of speed, but it was easier to maintain. About what I expected really.
I've even managed to set the fastest time of the year on a Strava segment today, OK, so not many people do it - 18 so far this year - but, EAT MY WAKE LOSERS!!!!!
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on March 06, 2016, 13:53:12 PM
I went out and did a slightly extended Belton FO8. Weather was gloomy when I set off, brightened up a bit for half an hour then went a bit gloomy again. No rain, however though I took the hybrid as  precaution. Cold but a pleasant ride out. Glad to have the March campaign underway.

16.28 miles, 552 done this year.

Oh and for interest I measured my cadence with the help of my watch .. at three points along the route I counted out 40 revolutions of the pedal axle, then glanced at my watch to see how many seconds had elapsed - 30, 28 and 30 respectively. So it looks like my natural cadence is about 80rpm.

The setup of the hybrid feels really comfortable, just right. I must measure out the dimensions so I can try to reproduce them if I replace it with a similar bike one day.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nick on March 06, 2016, 16:14:19 PM
My usual 14 miler, getting fitness up now, much less painful than a few weeks ago and I managed to tag on a nasty little steep hill that passes by the local golf course at the end of the ride. Was able to avoid some suicidal pheasants and had a good seat for a two crow vs buzzard dog fight (crows won).
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on March 06, 2016, 17:25:08 PM
Did yesterdays 22 miler again today. Managed to keep the cadence at 90, now it appears that it's my optimum. Managed a quicker time too, probably because the home run was into a lighter wind than yesterday - even if it was more in my face. Could probably have done it more quickly as my average heart rate was lower than yesterday so I could have pushed it more, but by 'eck it was cold today. I'd got no sensation in my feet for the last ten miles.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on March 06, 2016, 18:54:12 PM
I never did invest in neoprene overshoes but what's helped is wearing hiking socks over normal socks. My Shimano shoes are big enough to tolerate that, the other ones aren't so I'll keep them for warmer weather. Coming soon!
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: DavidL on March 06, 2016, 20:59:23 PM
I never did invest in neoprene overshoes but what's helped is wearing hiking socks over normal socks. My Shimano shoes are big enough to tolerate that, the other ones aren't so I'll keep them for warmer weather. Coming soon!
I always suffer with cold feet, even in the warmer months and with neoprene overshoes. I haven't had the same problem mountain biking because unlike road cycling your feet are not subjected to a continual rush of cold air.
I've just bought a pair of heated insoles (Happyhotfeet) that contain lithium batteries (charged via USB adaptor) and you contol them by a small remote keyfob type controller. I bought them principally for snowboarding but plan to use them in my road cycling shoes too. I tried them in my snowboard boots today for the first time and I am quite impressed - no more numb feet. I paid £50 (on line) from sportspursuit.com
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on March 06, 2016, 22:30:52 PM

I have a similar story, with latent asthma impacting on breathing capacity. Legs are pretty pathetic too if I'm honest!
Laura Trott was born a month prematurely, with a collapsed lung and was then diagnosed with asthma: she's not doing too shabbily now.

Think I need to man up...
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on March 06, 2016, 23:55:40 PM
Just found a pair of thermal soles that use AAA batteries in an ankle pack.. nice idea

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Ultrasport-Thermal-Soles-Patented-heating/dp/B004K84XVU/
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on March 07, 2016, 10:27:01 AM
Neoprene overshoes are a must for winter riding. Keep the feet relatively dry and warm, and also stop your shoes getting wrecked , and from a personal point of view I think they look better than shoes as well

I use these, dirt cheap, easy to put on and off, and very robust

http://www.planetx.co.uk/i/q/CLPXOSH/planet-x-neoprene-overshoes


Someone earlier was asking about carbon and will it make a difference?

Yes. Huge. They are lighter, so much better for accelerating and hills. They are much stiffer, so a greater power transfer to the wheels.

Probably looking on average 2kg less in weight than the same bike in aluminium.

I have one of these (yet more planet X!!!!) and it is ace! They have sales very regularly there, and sometimes do it with a SRAM groupset instead of that rather sexy Ultegra, but I got my one that I have listed above for £999.99 in the sale

http://www.planetx.co.uk/i/q/CBPXSLPULT6800/planet-x-pro-carbon-shimano-ultegra-6800-road-bike

Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: döm on March 07, 2016, 13:24:03 PM
Laura Trott was born a month prematurely, with a collapsed lung and was then diagnosed with asthma: she's not doing too shabbily now.

Think I need to man up...

Fair enough - so I can't use that excuse again when I come in the door completely out of breath after a 12km jaunt !
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: DavidL on March 07, 2016, 15:54:10 PM
I have one of these (yet more planet X!!!!) and it is ace! They have sales very regularly there, and sometimes do it with a SRAM groupset instead of that rather sexy Ultegra, but I got my one that I have listed above for £999.99 in the sale

http://www.planetx.co.uk/i/q/CBPXSLPULT6800/planet-x-pro-carbon-shimano-ultegra-6800-road-bike
I'm gobsmacked at what you can buy for a modest price these days! When I bought my Giant TCR Advanced  (carbon) about 4 years ago, I paid £1650 and that got me Shimano 105 groupset. That's good enough for most but Ultegra would have been nice. The big difference now is the carbon frames have come right down in price so you can get an awful lot of bike for your money. Of course they are nearly all made in the same facility in the far east, or so I was informed by someone in the business. Like a lot of things I think  you're paying mostly for the marketing when it comes to price differentials.
Just found a pair of thermal soles that use AAA batteries in an ankle pack.. nice idea

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Ultrasport-Thermal-Soles-Patented-heating/dp/B004K84XVU/
They seem cheap enough. These are the ones I've got:
 http://happyhotfeet.com/heat-insoles/
Quite a bit more expensive but I like the fact that there are no wires - remote control. They were heavily discounted from sportpursuit.com (flash sale site). Looking forward to using them on the bike

Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on March 07, 2016, 16:02:30 PM
Agreed, my Planet X was £999 with Ultegra and a carbon frame plus decent wheels. which is an obscene deal when you price up the components.

The big branded companies will say the Carbon Fibre isn't as good, or the guarantee not as long, finishing a little better, hand made blah blah blah

don't believe it!
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Moving Target on March 07, 2016, 16:18:38 PM
Neoprene overshoes are a must for winter riding. Keep the feet relatively dry and warm, and also stop your shoes getting wrecked , and from a personal point of view I think they look better than shoes as well

I use these, dirt cheap, easy to put on and off, and very robust

http://www.planetx.co.uk/i/q/CLPXOSH/planet-x-neoprene-overshoes



I also have a pair of those.  They work really well.  I had a pair of Sealskinz which were quite dear in comparison, harder to put on and the toes went out of them after just one ride!
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on March 07, 2016, 16:40:47 PM
Rob, nice to see you here!

Beautiful dry, sunny day, so I thought I'd give the road bike a run out. Cold, but not very blowy. I did the Truncated version of the Belton Figure Of Eight. Very pleasant except for being passed at speed by a tractor with 6 ft wheels, whose driver gave me about 5 inches of clearance. He was pulling a long trailer as well, so I had plenty of time to savour the terror and concentrate on avoiding injury by staying upright.

12.26 miles which takes me to 564 this year. Although I set my targets on a calendar year basis, I thought it might be interesting to check how many miles I'd done in the last twelve months exactly - and since 7 March 2015 I've cycled 3035 miles.

I think I'll give the neoprene shoes and heated insoles a miss until the autumn. Hopefully not too much cold weather left.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on March 07, 2016, 16:48:57 PM
Agreed, my Planet X was £999 with Ultegra and a carbon frame plus decent wheels. which is an obscene deal when you price up the components.

The big branded companies will say the Carbon Fibre isn't as good, or the guarantee not as long, finishing a little better, hand made blah blah blah

don't believe it!

So what are the gotchas, apart from the cost? More likely to crack if it gets a knock I assume? Need to be more careful tightening seat post / stem etc?
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on March 07, 2016, 17:34:12 PM
I guess the classic "buy cheap buy twice" could apply to something like wheels or the frame, especially when opting for carbon

I think if you tighten something hard enough to break the frame, you are going far too tight. On a related note, I keep meaning to buy a torque wrench with a power reading on it or whatever its measured in
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on March 07, 2016, 17:41:01 PM
I bought one years ago for my target rifle (over- or under-tightening the stock to the barrel will significantly degrade accuracy). Used it again for the first time in years to attach the cleats to my shoes, then for the new stem. Handy.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on March 07, 2016, 17:52:57 PM
I have a carbon and an aluminium. I like them both in different ways, but when it comes to hills I don't half notice the difference

I refuse to start going down the marginal gains route of getting everything carbon like posts, pedals, handle bars etc.

A fools game, unless money is no object of course. My weight fluctuates by a few pounds on a daily basis, so a few ounces here and there from some £300 pedals seems utter madness to me
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Moving Target on March 07, 2016, 19:55:40 PM
I need to get a stone off my gut before I start getting carbon everything and shaving my legs!
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on March 07, 2016, 20:22:13 PM
Agreed, my Planet X was £999 with Ultegra and a carbon frame plus decent wheels. which is an obscene deal when you price up the components.

Get thee behind me Satan!!!

I'm looking to getting a road bike to use in the Summer leaving the hybrid for the off-season. Not looking to spend vast sums - I'm 53 in a bit, don't want to spend too much on summat I'll soon be unfit to use - possibly one of these:

http://www.giant-bicycles.com/en-gb/bikes/model/defy.1.disc/24968/90516/#overview

My legs are leaden though today, shouldn't have gone out for a quicker time yesterday. I'll never learn. Don't think I'll go over 25 miles in on go until I'm out doing midweek cycling in the evenings.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: DavidL on March 08, 2016, 07:27:28 AM

I'm looking to getting a road bike to use in the Summer leaving the hybrid for the off-season. Not looking to spend vast sums - I'm 53 in a bit, don't want to spend too much on summat I'll soon be unfit to use - possibly one of these:

http://www.giant-bicycles.com/en-gb/bikes/model/defy.1.disc/24968/90516/#overview

Nice bike. I've had no complaints about my Giant. The size of the company probably means you can be more confident with regard to the quality and aftersales.
If I'm correct the Defy is a more 'relaxed' ride than the TCR - should be a comfortable ride.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Moving Target on March 08, 2016, 08:54:22 AM


http://www.giant-bicycles.com/en-gb/bikes/model/defy.1.disc/24968/90516/#overview

My legs are leaden though today, shouldn't have gone out for a quicker time yesterday. I'll never learn. Don't think I'll go over 25 miles in on go until I'm out doing midweek cycling in the evenings.

This is supposedly the best fast cruiser for the price.  I've got the Specialized equivalent which has eyelets to attach mudguards and panniers.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on March 08, 2016, 09:01:56 AM

If I'm correct the Defy is a more 'relaxed' ride than the TCR - should be a comfortable ride.
This is supposedly the best fast cruiser for the price.  I've got the Specialized equivalent which has eyelets to attach mudguards and panniers.
Comfort and cruising are where I'm at.
Next rainy weekend I might pop over to the LBS :)
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on March 08, 2016, 09:23:44 AM
Get thee behind me Satan!!!

I'm looking to getting a road bike to use in the Summer leaving the hybrid for the off-season. Not looking to spend vast sums - I'm 53 in a bit, don't want to spend too much on summat I'll soon be unfit to use - possibly one of these:

http://www.giant-bicycles.com/en-gb/bikes/model/defy.1.disc/24968/90516/#overview

My legs are leaden though today, shouldn't have gone out for a quicker time yesterday. I'll never learn. Don't think I'll go over 25 miles in on go until I'm out doing midweek cycling in the evenings.

Looks a nice bike, and gets good reviews:-

http://www.bikeradar.com/road/gear/category/bikes/road/product/review-giant-defy-1-disc-49567/

I bought this one in September, Planet X surprise surprise, which is their equivalent, minus the disc brakes, for £599,

http://www.planetx.co.uk/i/q/YBSH903567/planet-x-rt-58-alloy-campagnolo-veloce---medium-(54cm)---black?utm_source=The+Planet+X+and+On-One+Mailing+List&utm_campaign=c7fbb7ac8b-070316&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_561486488b-c7fbb7ac8b-272651689&mc_cid=c7fbb7ac8b&mc_eid=0f1dd48c23

The one above is actually better than the one I bought, and is in their clearance, and is a great deal


Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on March 08, 2016, 09:58:41 AM
http://www.armourbite.com/products/non-contact-sports/armourbite-mouthpiece/

Just been given one of these too, marginal gains....
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on March 08, 2016, 12:55:14 PM
I have the option to buy a full carbon bike, second-hand but hardly used, for less than £400. The downside is that it's a Ventura, which was a brand made in the Far East and exclusively available at Argos! So not an upmarket road bike by any means but maybe worth the asking price.

Discussion on the brand here, interested in any thoughts. At the moment I think I probably won't as I'm happy enough with the Boardman and if/when I do upgrade something with nicer "stuff" might be in order.

http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=12932562
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on March 08, 2016, 14:16:14 PM
I would avoid it personally.

If I had £400 to spend, the first thing I would get is these:-

http://www.wiggle.co.uk/fulcrum-racing-quattro-cx-clincher-wheelset/

They are ace

leaving me £220 to spend on some lovely new shorts/tops/jackets/shoes

Boardman bikes are nice, and well put together, and Im not sure faffing  around with the other components would make anything like the gains you would get from an excellent pair of quality, bulletproof wheels, and some really comfy warm clothing.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on March 09, 2016, 11:15:33 AM
I often read that wheels make the biggest difference as an upgrade so that's intriguing, but would probably want to spend a bit more than that.

Having said that they have gone up in price by £20 since you posted the link, so perhaps my wish has come true ..
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on March 09, 2016, 12:16:32 PM
I often read that wheels make the biggest difference as an upgrade so that's intriguing, but would probably want to spend a bit more than that.

Having said that they have gone up in price by £20 since you posted the link, so perhaps my wish has come true ..

for about £250 you can get Capagnolo Zonda wheels, they are the same company as Fulcrum, just a different brand, I have those on my good bike, and they are also ace, but to be perfectly honest I think the Fulcrums are better! Why spend more when you don't have to. My man at http://www.cycletherapy.org.uk/ uses them and recommends them to all his clients.

With wheels, the gains come from reduced weight (spinning weight/mass rocket science), better hubs, stiffer so less flex, and also how robust they are generally. They are also incredibly easy to put your tyres on to

The fulcrums also look ace, they have a slightly deeper profile so look like racing wheels as well.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on March 09, 2016, 14:58:48 PM
Thanks for the info, interesting stuff as always. Lots of Fulcrum wheels here:

http://www.probikekit.co.uk/brands/fulcrum.list

These ones? http://www.probikekit.co.uk/bicycle-wheels/fulcrum-racing-quattro-lg-clincher-wheelset-2016/11184763.html
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Moving Target on March 09, 2016, 15:37:45 PM
Comfort and cruising are where I'm at.


You've got the 105 gearset I believe.  Better than my Sora!
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: andyhaines on March 09, 2016, 16:54:56 PM
Get thee behind me Satan!!!

I'm looking to getting a road bike to use in the Summer leaving the hybrid for the off-season. Not looking to spend vast sums - I'm 53 in a bit, don't want to spend too much on summat I'll soon be unfit to use - possibly one of these:

http://www.giant-bicycles.com/en-gb/bikes/model/defy.1.disc/24968/90516/#overview

My legs are leaden though today, shouldn't have gone out for a quicker time yesterday. I'll never learn. Don't think I'll go over 25 miles in on go until I'm out doing midweek cycling in the evenings.

One of my cycling buddies has that bike, sans the disc brakes, and he's very happy with it. Initially I was going to go with a Giant Defy Advanced 1, but settled on the Cube Agree GTC Race (now renamed Attain GTC Race in the 2016 range) as you got more "bang for your buck." With a loyalty discount from my local bike store I picked it up for just over £1200...not bad for a carbon road bike with full a Shimano Ultegra groupset. If you are willing to go with last year's model and can find them still in stock, you'd probably be able to pick one up for around that price. They still do an Agree model, but it is different from the 2015 model...the Attain is closest. In last month's Cycling Plus magazine, the 2016 Cube Attain GTC Race won an endurance bike group test, beating off competition from several bikes nearer £2000. :)

Here's my bike (2015 model)


http://www.damianharriscycles.co.uk/_images/product-photos/cz/cube-agree-gtc-race-2015-road-bike-a.jpg
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on March 09, 2016, 17:00:12 PM
Thanks for the info, interesting stuff as always. Lots of Fulcrum wheels here:

http://www.probikekit.co.uk/brands/fulcrum.list

These ones? http://www.probikekit.co.uk/bicycle-wheels/fulcrum-racing-quattro-lg-clincher-wheelset-2016/11184763.html

Yep, and you have this years model as well, so one up on me!!!!!

You will love the "hum" they make when you are tootling along, and they don't have a ridiculously loud click when you are freewheeling either, something which annoys the living daylights out of me with some of the better wheels.

Some of the pretentious roadies see it as a badge of honour to buy Italian wheels that are so loud when you are freewheeling, it sounds like a gattling gun!
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on March 09, 2016, 17:03:04 PM


Here's my bike (2015 model)


http://www.damianharriscycles.co.uk/_images/product-photos/cz/cube-agree-gtc-race-2015-road-bike-a.jpg

That is a handsome bike! I love white red and black. One day, this will be mine:-

(https://asitc.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/new-ribble-sportive.jpg)
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: andyhaines on March 09, 2016, 17:24:52 PM
That is a handsome bike! I love white red and black. One day, this will be mine:-

(https://asitc.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/new-ribble-sportive.jpg)
{swoons}
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on March 09, 2016, 17:27:29 PM
And it wont be a bank breaker either, its their entry level Carbon, I think its called Gran Fondo.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: andyhaines on March 09, 2016, 18:41:48 PM
That is a handsome bike! I love white red and black. One day, this will be mine:-

I love the red, white and black as well. The Cube I have comes in a dull grey this year, which seems to be latest fashion for road bikes - dull grey or matt black.  :-/
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nick on March 09, 2016, 18:51:19 PM
And it wont be a bank breaker either, its their entry level Carbon, I think its called Gran Fondo.

£1000 fondle then?
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on March 09, 2016, 20:09:45 PM
There's a virtual bike builder on their site, you can actually get one for about £800, not with the sexiest parts but still seems like good value
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on March 10, 2016, 10:20:50 AM
There's a virtual bike builder on their site, you can actually get one for about £800, not with the sexiest parts but still seems like good value

They are really, really good bikes.

The price obviously goes up when you start upgrading the components and wheels. If you get the basic one for £800 you are getting a nice bike, but would probably want tp upgrade a couple of things after you have had it for a while

Would be interesting to see if you could order it without wheels, and buy the fulcrums separately. Dead easy to put the cassette on yourself. then you are getting a lot of bike for about £980 or even less if they take the price off for the stock wheels
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on March 10, 2016, 14:45:57 PM
There's too much Bike porn going on round here, I thought I'd about made my mind up...

But the more I spend on a bike, the more I have to give Mrs S for house renovations. Squeak.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on March 10, 2016, 14:53:03 PM
A friend of someone who works here has just found out her hubby is doing the dirty on her. He is away on a trip with this other woman, so she has just offered to sell me his Specialized S-works with all the gear on it for £1400!

AAAAAGGGGHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!! 

Its got nightmare written all over it, but by Christ I am tempted
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on March 10, 2016, 15:15:50 PM
LOL
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on March 10, 2016, 15:24:36 PM
Would be interesting to see if you could order it without wheels, and buy the fulcrums separately. Dead easy to put the cassette on yourself. then you are getting a lot of bike for about £980 or even less if they take the price off for the stock wheels

Is it fairly straightforward to swap the cassette from one wheel to another? I think you at least need special tools.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on March 10, 2016, 16:22:16 PM
Is it fairly straightforward to swap the cassette from one wheel to another? I think you at least need special tools.

You do need special tools, something called a chain whip, and a certain tool which fits into the cassette cogs. But once you have them.......

(yet another opportunity to spend even more money. I have quite a nice box of tool, £49 from Chain reaction)
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: freewill on March 10, 2016, 21:27:07 PM
Nice, commiserations to his dad, rush on.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on March 11, 2016, 09:21:24 AM
Nice, commiserations to his dad, rush on.

eh? :-\
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on March 11, 2016, 14:54:30 PM
Well I ordered a chain whip and cassette remover tool from Amazon. The chain whip popped through the door this morning, and it does look like a formidable weapon I must say. Still dithering over the wheels though.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on March 11, 2016, 15:44:02 PM
Well I ordered a chain whip and cassette remover tool from Amazon. The chain whip popped through the door this morning, and it does look like a formidable weapon I must say. Still dithering over the wheels though.

Best watch a couple of videos on youtube first before you have a go. When you do it, make sure the wheel is in its normal upright position as well, not horizontal.

And also, if you can, when the cassette comes off, try and leave the tool in it, nothing worse than accidentally knocking over a cassette and having to put it back together with the spacers in the right place.

When you buy the wheel, make sure if you have shimano gears and chain you get a wheel that is compatible (they normally are) and that its suitable for whatever setup you have ie 8/9/11 speed, double or triple. Sounds scary, but its not.

And buy the Fulcrums!!!!
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on March 11, 2016, 16:56:59 PM
I will think about it :)

Meanwhile, I did a slightly modified non-Belton FO8, 12.9 miles. Sunny and not particularly cold, very nice. It's the 11th already and I've only been out three times this month, disappointing. But barring Biblical weather I'll clock up 200 before April.

577 this year.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nick on March 12, 2016, 11:35:43 AM
Another 14 miles on a beautiful chill spring morning. Snowdrops, daffs, birds , nature beginning to awaken. Met a horse and rider in a lane who appeared none to happy to see me even though I slowed to a crawl.

I always take a lucozade sport for hydration and keep a gel sachet in my back pocket in case of need.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on March 12, 2016, 11:38:22 AM
Met a horse and rider in a lane who appeared none to happy to see me even though I slowed to a crawl.

A plague on horses and their riders!!!!!!!!! They think they own the road and you can't do right by them, you either don't give enough notification of your presence or you give too much >:(

Although having said that, the last few I've met down the local lanes have been very pleasant.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on March 12, 2016, 13:16:43 PM
Yes I encountered two WPCs on police horses on my 25 miler a couple of months ago and they waved very pleasantly. Just exercising them I think.

And I set out on the same 25 mile jaunt this morning in sunny weather. Beautiful day for it. After a couple of miles I realised that I hadn't brought my phone, which was unfortunate as I'm on call. I pondered cutting short my route, but having assessed that the probability of being called over the next two hours was about 0.05 (a figure calculated by dividing the approximate number of times I've been called on a Saturday morning by a rough guess at the number of times I've been on call), I pressed on. I did take a short cut near Sheepy Magna though, by staying on the A444 before turning off for Bosworth.

Took the gloves off after 7 miles or so and didn't miss them. It's very mild out there.

I was relieved to find on returning to the garage that I hadn't been called. 23.34 miles (would have been 25.6 without the shortcut).

601 this year, 65 this month.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on March 12, 2016, 18:13:10 PM
Those Fulcrum wheels came down to £189.99 so I did buy them. I'm sure I'll have fun swapping them over if nothing else (over Easter I suspect).
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on March 12, 2016, 20:06:54 PM
Upped the mileage to 23 today, by taking the end of my 14 mile route and completing my 22 mile route with it. Had a break after 1.6 miles for a plate of bacon butties and some dog rolls up at my dads, as we were finalising the probate application for my mum's estate.
It was certainly warmer today and I broke into a sweat for the first time this year, still think the bib tights are needed though. The lack of wind today was a nice feature, let me pedal more constantly on the way round. Even managed to average over 17 mph on a 20+ mile run out for the first time today. Set some good times on Strava segments today and some mystifyingly bad ones today - probably the lack of a following wind...
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on March 13, 2016, 12:14:28 PM
Hoping to do another 25 miles or so today in two goes today.  I went out and did an unusual route, mostly made up as I went along, through Ashby, Packington and back through Heather. Felt a bit cold when I set off and I wondered if I should have taken gloves - but it was almost summery by the time I got back an hour later. 10.62 miles. Not far, but I thought I'd save my energy for later when it should be even warmer. More later.

Encountered about 15 members of the Long Eaton Velo Club about 350 metres from home - quite a long trip out for them, but that reminds me how fortunate I am to have some terrific cycle routes on my doorstep.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: NeilP on March 13, 2016, 13:43:20 PM
Well done Geraint Thomas on winning Paris/Nice today... big year for him perhaps?
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nick on March 13, 2016, 13:51:49 PM
18 miles today, magnificent morning, the birds in full chirp. Cleaned the bike when I got back.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on March 13, 2016, 14:19:23 PM
Well done Geraint Thomas on winning Paris/Nice today... big year for him perhaps?
Well done to Simon Yates too :)
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on March 13, 2016, 16:54:38 PM
Went out and did an extended version of the Belton F08 that took me through Long Whatton and Diseworth. The oncall phone went off a few miles from home but at least I'd taken it with me this time. So I sprinted for the last ten minutes or so. Was quite surprised at how quick I was going, but I'd rather just take it easy than beat the clock.

Beautiful day. I didn't take gloves, but I did wear one layer of tights. 21.62 miles

That's 97 this month, and 633 this year.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on March 13, 2016, 16:54:41 PM
Been out and done 20.76 miles this afternoon with 1,309 feet of climbing, mostly in short sharp inclines, so it was the wrong kind of terrain to go out and try keeping in a low heart rate zone, not that I could do it anyway, being as my resting HR of 65 shoots up to 110 just by thinking of cycling. Having said that I did keep it lower than my past few rides and my legs feel fresher even though it was a hillier ride.
I was going to extend the ride a bit, but I've suffered severe chafing on my left nipple from my HR strap.

Looking on Strava, I find there's a segment on Whittington High Street of 1.1 miles. I rank 145/388 a minute and six seconds behind the leaders Ben Swift and Russ Downing. Don't think I'll be turning pro...
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: andyhaines on March 13, 2016, 19:52:16 PM
Epic cycle fail... I had a lovely 37 mile ride out on the bicycle today in the sun, but before I left I whipped the bike over to lube the cables and noticed for the first time what I thought was a hole caused by, possibly, a stone hitting the underside of the bottom bracket. I popped into my local bike shop, and waited for 15 minutes to see the mechanic, with the hope that I might be able to plug the hole with some kind of sealant. In my defence the first assistant looked at it and said I might be able to send my bike back to the makers as it was still under warranty. Mechanic looked at it for about 1 second and said, "That's a drainage hole to allow any build up of water out." I left with my head down.   :-[
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on March 13, 2016, 19:59:46 PM
That's a WIN. Eventually, anyway.

Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on March 14, 2016, 09:42:12 AM
Did 40 odd yesterday morning with my brother in law, he is getting back into it, lovely crisp morning with mist over the fields

Got a Sportive on Sunday in Stratford for Childrens charity, 100k so probably need to do a bit over the next few days
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on March 14, 2016, 17:47:05 PM
Did a slightly different lunch break route today, across to Hugglescote, down through Ellistown, through Nailstone and then up through Barton in the Beans, Nailstone and Ibstock. A bit less hilly than my usual route I think. Not so much fun though, less rural. And annoyingly blowy for the last few miles.

Anyway, 13.45 miles, which takes me to 110 this month, 646 in 2016.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on March 14, 2016, 17:50:03 PM
Stop procrastinating and get those new wheels on! The dirt will wash off them.....
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on March 14, 2016, 18:48:07 PM
Got to wait for postie to turn up with them first!
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on March 15, 2016, 12:47:53 PM
I have an ambition to pedal to each of Leicestershire's seven neighbouring counties and back, from my garage door. I've already done the four easy ones; only Linconshire, Rutland and Northamptonshire remain. If the weather's kind I may have a crack at Rutland over Easter, which would be a 67 mile round trip.

I know some people could crank out more that without stopping in their stride, but I'm not one of them. Interested to know what the best strategy might be - frequent, short breaks? I thought of doing it in two halves, with a long break (say an hour) at the destination and perhaps a short break (15-20 mins) after 15 miles each way.

There are quite a few villages with shops along the way (I've done a Street View reconnaissance) so I wouldn't have to carry much water or food.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on March 15, 2016, 12:53:42 PM
I have an ambition to pedal to each of Leicestershire's seven neighbouring counties and back, from my garage door. I've already done the four easy ones; only Linconshire, Rutland and Northamptonshire remain. If the weather's kind I may have a crack at Rutland over Easter, which would be a 67 mile round trip.

I know some people could crank out more that without stopping in their stride, but I'm not one of them. Interested to know what the best strategy might be - frequent, short breaks? I thought of doing it in two halves, with a long break (say an hour) at the destination and perhaps a short break (15-20 mins) after 15 miles each way.

There are quite a few villages with shops along the way (I've done a Street View reconnaissance) so I wouldn't have to carry much water or food.

I will leave the planning/route to you. The less you carry generally the better, but obviously have plenty of drink on board, ideally 2 bottles if you  have the cages, with something for cramp mixed in.

On any long ride/endurance event, the boredom factor and saddle pain are the things which get to me in the end, so breaking up a journey with a nice stop here and there is perfect. When you do the organised Sportives, you also tend to get very sick of sweet sickly foods, which is why I tend to make a marmite sandwich these days to take.

if you can talk someone into doing it with you, that will make a hell of a difference too
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: DavidL on March 15, 2016, 19:57:18 PM
Slim - I was wondering from your cycling posts, do you wear in ear phones when you are out?
I've never risked this as I consider it a bit hazardous. Just wondered what the consensus is among the other cyclists here(?)
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on March 15, 2016, 20:20:41 PM
I'd certainly never use in ear phones.
I like being out by myself just thinking about the road ahead, listening to the birds tweeting in the hedges (turns out it was a brake pad rubbing) and the sound of wheezing from my lungs as the road heads uphill.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nick on March 15, 2016, 20:34:19 PM
Would never wear them, on the Devon lanes it's always best to keep all your senses about you (NP called it Roadcraft).
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on March 15, 2016, 23:33:42 PM
Slim - I was wondering from your cycling posts, do you wear in ear phones when you are out?
I've never risked this as I consider it a bit hazardous. Just wondered what the consensus is among the other cyclists here(?)

Yes I do, I always take 5 Live with me on a DAB portable. I haven't found it hazardous. The plugs aren't the kind that you plug deep into your ears and they don't block out the ambient noise. Loud music might be more of a risk, I suppose.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on March 16, 2016, 09:21:54 AM
Slim - I was wondering from your cycling posts, do you wear in ear phones when you are out?
I've never risked this as I consider it a bit hazardous. Just wondered what the consensus is among the other cyclists here(?)

I do when riding alone. you would have music on in your car, so why not on your bike?

https://www.evanscycles.com/aftershokz-sportz-s3-EV215750?country=GB&currency=GBP&esvt=566-GOUKE247904&esvq=&esvadt=999999-0-37240-1&esvcrea=61232677976&esvplace=&esvd=c&esvo=EV215750-NA-NA&esvaid=50080&gclid=Cj0KEQjwiKS3BRCU-7XQ75Te3NoBEiQAA2t_xHYXfuG_DZMiufXPc-cCKlAMXwBnSYyxiRWUTbAYwM4aAgM48P8HAQ

Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on March 16, 2016, 11:07:13 AM
cheekbone audio, fascinating
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on March 16, 2016, 11:45:08 AM
I know! They sound fine though

There are some others which go behind the ear
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: döm on March 16, 2016, 11:55:03 AM
my local buy and sell group on Facebook had a runtastic cadence sensor for sale for a tenner so I picked it up and will probably install it tomorrow (St Patricks Day).  The fine weather has me up like a daffodil so the kms are starting to rise a little with the odd lunch-time and evening jaunt.  Weekends will pick up too now. 

161kms in March and 373 for the year
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on March 16, 2016, 12:30:58 PM
Doing this on Sunday:-

http://www.cyclistsfc.org.uk/events/meon-vale-spring-classic-100k-and-60k/route-maps/

Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: DavidL on March 16, 2016, 14:30:56 PM
I do when riding alone. you would have music on in your car, so why not on your bike?

In a car you are already insulated a lot from external noise so tend not to rely on it to warn you of nearby traffic - you also have mirrors (and a large amount of protection). My worry is that, when cycling, if you are not able to hear fully you can easily be unaware of traffic approaching from behind. Given that the average driver gives you about 18" clearance at best, I shudder to think what might happen if you unexpectedly have to change your line to miss a sunken drain or pothole while an articulated lorry is about to pass unnoticed.
I don't even use headphones when running if I am close to the road - not worth the risk IMO.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on March 16, 2016, 14:43:10 PM
Wondering if everyone else uses a mirror? I have a compact little unit that sprouts out of the handlebars on the road bike, and a similar but bigger mirror on the hybrid, I'll take a pic later. It's been a lot more useful to me than my hearing for determining what's coming up behind me, though I can generally hear vehicles coming from behind anyway.  The wind conditions make a much bigger difference to being able to hear the world around you than earphones, in practice.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on March 16, 2016, 17:06:11 PM
The headphones I have linked to allow me to hear traffic, so I have no worries to be honest, and my special "spidey sense" does the rest
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on March 16, 2016, 17:24:11 PM
I did the regular lunch break route through Heather, skirting Measham and back through Packington then subtly extended by a few hundred yards up Heather Lane and back. Too blowy be be enjoyable but I didn't get out yesterday. Ascending Alton Hill when youv'e been battling the elements is no fun.

11.75, 122 this month, 658 this year.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on March 16, 2016, 21:10:52 PM
Bought myself some "real" cycling shoes and "proper" pedals for the first time.
Won't be using them. Can only get one pedal off the bike, that was 10 minutes of WD40 and brute force. Second pedal still there after an hour and a half >:(
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nick on March 16, 2016, 21:17:47 PM
One of the pedals is reverse threaded so you probably have been tightening it.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on March 16, 2016, 21:49:05 PM
That's the one I've got off. I know what I'm doing...

Last time I took some pedals off - 1994 - to put them in some new crank arms when I converted my 5 speed to a 10 speed, they came off no trouble, and that was after they'd been in about fifteen years.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: DavidL on March 16, 2016, 22:46:59 PM
Bought myself some "real" cycling shoes and "proper" pedals for the first time.
Won't be using them. Can only get one pedal off the bike, that was 10 minutes of WD40 and brute force. Second pedal still there after an hour and a half >:(
You could try gently heating the end of the crank arm with a blow torch.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on March 16, 2016, 23:06:00 PM
Was going to say I don't have a blow torch, but I have one of those cheffy ones for caramelising sugar somewhere...
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: DavidL on March 16, 2016, 23:38:20 PM
Was going to say I don't have a blow torch, but I have one of those cheffy ones for caramelising sugar somewhere...
Worth a try. If successful, treat yourself to a creme brulee.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on March 17, 2016, 00:43:22 AM
Bought myself some "real" cycling shoes and "proper" pedals for the first time.
Won't be using them. Can only get one pedal off the bike, that was 10 minutes of WD40 and brute force. Second pedal still there after an hour and a half >:(

Sorry to hear, Nick - I had the same problem with my old Ridgeback when one of the pedals broke, but I cracked it eventually (not literally, it was already cracked). Leave the WD40 to soak in overnight and check out some of the several YouTube guides to removing pedals - there's a definite knack to it.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on March 17, 2016, 11:54:54 AM
Postie has brought new wheels for my road bike!

Pondering whether I should just reuse the inner tubes and tyres from the old wheels. I think so. Don't really have a need for road-ready spare wheels.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on March 17, 2016, 12:27:53 PM
No real reason to use a new inner, unless its been mended
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on March 17, 2016, 15:10:32 PM
<andyhaines>I'm going to have to send them back - they've both got a hole in the rim!</andyhaines>
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on March 17, 2016, 15:11:51 PM
Anyway I did the non-Belton Figure Of Eight. 11.99 miles, 134 this month. Very nice out there, shame I didn't have time to stay out longer.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on March 17, 2016, 19:25:54 PM
Just before sunset I went on the first post-work outing of the year on the hybrid (since it already had lights attached). A bit cooler than earlier, so I put gloves on and wore the double layer of tights. Plenty of light for the first half. The increased volume of traffic at that hour was more annoying than the diminished light.

11.53, 146 this month, 682 done in 2016.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: andyhaines on March 17, 2016, 19:51:51 PM
<andyhaines>I'm going to have to send them back - they've both got a hole in the rim!</andyhaines>
Lol..

Reminds me of an old Chinese proverb:

"He who can laugh at himself causes neither hurt nor affront,
He who only laughs at others is just a ...."

;-)
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: andyhaines on March 17, 2016, 19:54:36 PM
Lol..

Reminds me of an old Chinese proverb:

"He who can laugh at himself causes neither hurt nor affront,
He who only laughs at others is just a ...."

;-)

To be honest, it's not Chinese and I just made it up.   ;D
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on March 17, 2016, 20:23:45 PM
Well, recalcitrant pedal is off :)

Mrs S went out and bought a better pedal wrench, a couple of minutes of hard pressure and it loosened. Unfortunately I ignored all the online entreaties and didn't put the chain on the big chain ring. I now have a line of holes in the back of my hand...

Just had a fun time clipping and unclipping up the back passage...
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on March 17, 2016, 20:52:13 PM
I actually fell off my bike without going anywhere the first time I tried them - just swung a leg over, clipped in, then unbalanced the bike attempting to dismount. As I recall I managed to come a cropper at the end of the first ride as well, partly because losing a cleat bolt had made it harder to unclip the left shoe . Since then though, no problems.

Glad it's sorted!
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on March 17, 2016, 21:47:14 PM
I suppose I'll come a cropper one or two times early on, but I'm sure it'll soon become second nature. The path up the back of our house was only really just long enough to get both shoes in and your feet turning, but there was a house wall one side and a garden wall the other to keep me upright :)
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on March 18, 2016, 10:21:00 AM
<andyhaines>I'm going to have to send them back - they've both got a hole in the rim!</andyhaines>

So, how do they look?

I love new wheels, and the fulcrums are very pretty
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on March 18, 2016, 12:36:36 PM
Very smart! Still not on the bike, though.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on March 18, 2016, 12:58:49 PM
Meanwhile, preparations are underway for Operation Rutle - an audacious plan to visit Rutland.

I'm using Google Maps and the course planner at http://bikehike.co.uk/ to find a route with the best compromise between distance, total ascent, available refreshment stops and road type (not too busy, not too muddy-footpath-ish). At the moment a 30.82 mile route between here and the Rutland border looks most promising. I'll cycle just past the Rutland sign, then turn back and have lunch at a pub in Knossington.

I'll set off early and send Twitter updates at checkpoints along the way. But I need a day that's warm enough for light clothing, not windy and no chance of rain. Not likely to occur this weekend, sadly.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on March 18, 2016, 13:58:07 PM
I suppose I'll come a cropper one or two times early on, but I'm sure it'll soon become second nature. The path up the back of our house was only really just long enough to get both shoes in and your feet turning, but there was a house wall one side and a garden wall the other to keep me upright :)

That's the way to do it. you will find as you go on that you only actually ever unclip one shoe, probably your right foot if you are right handed.

So, lean against a wall on your left, and basically clip and unclip as many times as you possibly can without driving yourself insane. That will not only teach you how to do it properly, but will also round off the cleats slightly, so they go in and out much more easily. I always do that when I have a change of shoe or cleat.

And the best advice I can give, assuming you want/need it, is unclip before you need to unclip. So, if you are cruising up to lights or a junction, do it with  plenty of time/space to go, even up tp 50 yards or so. Its almost impossible to unclip when you are going slowly or have stopped.

The only real difficulty I find these days is if I have had to stop on a hill. Not easy clipping in when starting on a hill, so try and avoid
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on March 18, 2016, 14:14:48 PM
I always unclip with the pedal at the bottom of its travel - push down slightly and twist, one at a time.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: döm on March 18, 2016, 14:38:46 PM
I damaged a pedal when I fell on slippery roads a few weeks back and the damage has been getting worse as I've cycled.  I thought long and hard about going for proper pedals and proper cycling shoes but just went with standard ones in the end.  Bike went into the local shop for a service so I got them to put the new ones on too.  Save me the hassle Nick and Slim described above !
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on March 18, 2016, 21:46:06 PM
Bike went into the local shop for a service so I got them to put the new ones on too.  Save me the hassle Nick and Slim described above !
Gah! Give it a go yourself! That which doesn't kill us only leaves scars across the back of our hands...
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on March 18, 2016, 21:59:48 PM
That's the way to do it. you will find as you go on that you only actually ever unclip one shoe, probably your right foot if you are right handed.

That's interesting; although I'm right-handed I generally unclip the left - making sure that the bike is leaning leftwards of course so my left foot is supporting the weight. I think because when I set off, I always push with the right foot first.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nick on March 18, 2016, 22:13:40 PM
I remember my first clip in session, went off without a problem then on my return cycled into the garage and promptly fell off. As others have advised i always unclip well in advance of a junction etc, i also lean to the right.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on March 18, 2016, 23:36:37 PM
Not yet been out on a clipped in ride, but I'm sure I'll unclip to the left. Pulling up at the side of the raid, the kerb is to your left. Makes sense to me. Plus I was raised as a left-footer...
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: NeilP on March 19, 2016, 09:37:18 AM
I do when riding alone. you would have music on in your car, so why not on your bike?

https://www.evanscycles.com/aftershokz-sportz-s3-EV215750?country=GB&currency=GBP&esvt=566-GOUKE247904&esvq=&esvadt=999999-0-37240-1&esvcrea=61232677976&esvplace=&esvd=c&esvo=EV215750-NA-NA&esvaid=50080&gclid=Cj0KEQjwiKS3BRCU-7XQ75Te3NoBEiQAA2t_xHYXfuG_DZMiufXPc-cCKlAMXwBnSYyxiRWUTbAYwM4aAgM48P8HAQ

Japes put me onto those a couple of years back, they work fine on the road and don't interfere with traffic noise
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on March 19, 2016, 17:13:36 PM
First ride out in "real" cycling shoes today. Upped the mileage a bit to 25.6. I was hoping to see a bit of difference in speed, but nothing noticeable stands out in my stats for the day. Then again, sods law meant that the amount of traffic on the roads today was significantly greater than usual, meaning having to stop at more junctions and getting stuck behind busses.

Only one "incident" I had to stop at an unexpected set of traffic lights, I unclipped my left foot, put it in the floor, my left calf cramped up and I collapsed like a sack of spuds  :-[ Still, it gave some old folk a bit of entertainment.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on March 19, 2016, 17:45:57 PM
I gave the hybrid a good clean. I used a pressure washer carefully, with slightly disappointing results but got it nice and shiny in the end with a sponge and a cloth. Tried my new bike dryer for the first time - that at least works really well (it's a sort of hand-held device that blasts lukewarm air, same principle as a Dyson hand dryer - knocks the moisture off in no time). Gave it a seeing to with GT85 then took the road bike out for a spin. The weather seemed a bit gloomy so I only did 16.22 miles, a route I made up as I went along through Swannington, Newbold Coleorton, Lount and Coleorton.

Weather permitting I'll clean the road bike tomorrow and put the new wheels on. 698 miles done this year, would have stayed out for another couple if I'd known.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nick on March 20, 2016, 12:05:17 PM
Early start this morning, cold but many cyclists were already out. Heard first woodpeckers of the year. 24 miles 1500ft climbing. The longer version of my usual route that has a nice flat section parallel with the Grand Western Canal.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on March 20, 2016, 15:32:18 PM
Just been out for a quick 14 miles with 709 feet of climbing. It was quick for me, averaged over 17mph, only ever done that route quicker once and that was last August when I was well run in.
Nearly fell off again at the same set of traffic lights at roadworks as yesterday. Saw they were on red and did a slow bike race up to them hoping they'd turn green before I got there. They turned green just as I got there and was unclipping, cue mad panic and wobbles to clip back in again.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on March 20, 2016, 16:23:21 PM
No cycling for me so far today. I lubed the hybrid ready for its next run out. I also took the wheels off the road bike and give it a good clean. Gave the chain and cassette a thorough clean and decided to fit the new wheels.

However, once I'd attached the cassette to the new wheel, I noticed that it was slack - the cogs have the freedom to move a mm or two along the hub once the smallest ring is secured down. I decided to give up for the day at that point and slung everything back in the garage.

Then I noticed that I'd overlooked an "adaptor for Shimano and SRAM sprockets" in a little plastic bag. Perhaps I'll go and sort it out in half an hour. Cycling certainly is complicated.

Once that's done I've still got to swap the tubes and tyres over.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: DavidL on March 20, 2016, 17:32:40 PM
40 miles on the road bike this morning. Lack of conditioning showed after 15 miles - at that point I thought 30 was all I would manage. Got a second wind after 25 and pushed on to make a decent ride of it in the end. Ride was made slightly more uncomfortable with cold wind that seemed to be coming, unusually, from the north east. Unfortunately I had to suffer with cold feet after discovering that the heated insoles that I bought, principally for snowboarding, will not fit in my cycling shoes  >:(. Glad I wore my sealskin gloves or my hands would've been cold too.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on March 20, 2016, 17:56:36 PM
So I got the cassette on with the adaptor, a nice snug fit now, and swapped over the inner tubes and tyres. Unfortunately I'm going to have to buy new inner tubes, after all. The valves on the old ones aren't long enough for the deeper rims on the Fulcrums.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: döm on March 20, 2016, 22:22:50 PM
Seems my heavy but reliable Raleigh P2000 Alu is due for replacement.  Crank bearings need replacing and the mechanic couldn't remove the bottom bracket. Gears are all buckled. I bought it for next to nothing 5 years ago do its time for an upgrade. The Boardman range at Halfords look like excellent value and I think that's where I'll start looking
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on March 20, 2016, 22:30:18 PM
They are good value and generously discounted at certain times of the year. The only downer is that Halfords often don't set them up properly (quite a common complaint if you look on the various bike fora). Mine had a loose spoke and the gears were out of alignment. I took it to a bike mechanic for a proper sort out so you might factor the cost of that into the overall cost.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: DavidL on March 20, 2016, 22:34:14 PM
So I got the cassette on with the adaptor, a nice snug fit now, and swapped over the inner tubes and tyres. Unfortunately I'm going to have to buy new inner tubes, after all. The valves on the old ones aren't long enough for the deeper rims on the Fulcrums.
As you said, cycling is certainly complicated  ;)
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on March 21, 2016, 00:42:19 AM
Seems my heavy but reliable Raleigh P2000 Alu is due for replacement.  Crank bearings need replacing and the mechanic couldn't remove the bottom bracket. Gears are all buckled. I bought it for next to nothing 5 years ago do its time for an upgrade. The Boardman range at Halfords look like excellent value and I think that's where I'll start looking
I have a Boardman, I got it from a Halfords where a staff member knew what he was doing. Lucky me.
Any problems had been of my own making.
Cycling is complicatedly simple....
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on March 21, 2016, 09:23:40 AM
So I got the cassette on with the adaptor, a nice snug fit now, and swapped over the inner tubes and tyres. Unfortunately I'm going to have to buy new inner tubes, after all. The valves on the old ones aren't long enough for the deeper rims on the Fulcrums.

Yes, forgot to warn you about the tubes, and the extra washer for the adapter!

Never, ever use a jet wash on a bike. Fact. especially when you have nice new fulcrum wheels, you will wreck the hubs and bottom bracket and cranks

You shouldn't even really use a hose
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: döm on March 21, 2016, 11:41:17 AM
Thanks Slim and Nick that's good to know re Halfords and Boardman.

Jonners interesting on the jet washers too.  Wonder whether that's why my bottom bracket is done for ?
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on March 21, 2016, 11:54:41 AM
Thanks Slim and Nick that's good to know re Halfords and Boardman.

Jonners interesting on the jet washers too.  Wonder whether that's why my bottom bracket is done for ?

Water and bikes is generally a bad thing

Water being forced at extreme pressure into moving parts and joints is madness.

You shouldn't even spray stuff like GT85 near the hubs, as it has a nasty way of working its way into the bearings, and will degrease whatever is there.

Try and use something like muc off spray, or some washing up liquid and a cloth. GT85 sprayed into the chain and cassette will blast out any rubbish.

BUT NO JET WASH!!!!!
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on March 21, 2016, 17:42:07 PM
I hear what you're saying on the pressure washer but if you're careful I do believe you can avoid it forcing its way into the sensitive bits. But I did stick to low pressure water coming out of a hose for the road bike.

Anyway new inner tubes have arrived, so that's my next hour or two spoken for. The tyres were a bastard to get onto the new wheels.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Moving Target on March 21, 2016, 19:06:41 PM
Slim - I was wondering from your cycling posts, do you wear in ear phones when you are out?
I've never risked this as I consider it a bit hazardous. Just wondered what the consensus is among the other cyclists here(?)

No way! 
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on March 22, 2016, 11:21:28 AM
I hear what you're saying on the pressure washer but if you're careful I do believe you can avoid it forcing its way into the sensitive bits. But I did stick to low pressure water coming out of a hose for the road bike.

Anyway new inner tubes have arrived, so that's my next hour or two spoken for. The tyres were a bastard to get onto the new wheels.

Which tyres were you putting on? I put my Gatorskins on to the fulcrums with only a little help from a tyre lever for the very last couple of inches.

Anyway, this is an interesting read. I did Dover's Hill (number 13) at the weekend, and it was a good climb. Will be doing The Tumble in May, and have done a couple of others on there too

interested to see if anyone else has done any f these, in Particular Mow Cop and Buttertubs
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on March 22, 2016, 17:05:24 PM
The tyres are the same Vittoria Zafiros that came with it. Still quite a bit of life in them I think.

Anyway all done now I think; I've put the new wheels on, lubed the chain, inflated the tyres. Had to make a slight adjustment to the brakes for both new wheels, though I'm sure they're properly seated.

(http://truth.justdied.com/images/fulcrums.jpg)

Yes, I know, the handlebars are grubby.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on March 22, 2016, 17:24:36 PM
Very nice. I changed my white tape a while back for blue. the black and blue of my bike now matches my Kit, most of which if Prostate Cancer Charity stuff.

Think you may have the front wheel on backwards though........
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on March 22, 2016, 17:26:48 PM
Hm, why do you think that? The tyre is definitely set to rotate in the proper direction and I think the front wheel is happy either way round, no?
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on March 22, 2016, 17:31:03 PM
Just being silly.

Its what the smart arse experienced riders used to get me with, every time I posted a "proud moment" pic online of some work or changes I had made.

In fact, I think Neil P got me on facebook a while back saying there was a spoke missing when I had posted a pic of my lovely new campagnola's

Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on March 22, 2016, 21:46:07 PM
Anyway, this is an interesting read. I did Dover's Hill (number 13) at the weekend, and it was a good climb. Will be doing The Tumble in May, and have done a couple of others on there too

interested to see if anyone else has done any f these, in Particular Mow Cop and Buttertubs
No.

That's going uphill. Uphill is bad. I have the misfortune to live on the doorstep of the Peak District, I head the other way :)
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on March 23, 2016, 11:13:09 AM
Just finished a book by George Hincapie, basically Lance Armstrong's number 2, then for Cavendish and a couple of others

Great read, interesting take on the drugs debate, especially as he was one of the main perps
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on March 23, 2016, 15:42:41 PM
A bit gloomy out there, a bit cold and slightly blowy but I thought I'd take the new wheels out for a spin, and everything seems to be working nicely. They do make a difference for sure, not dramatic but somehow they feel a bit more solid and positive, especially when pushing up a hill.

The standard lunchtime route, 11.51 miles. 173 this month, 709 this year.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on March 23, 2016, 15:52:48 PM
Glad you like them.

It wont be like suddenly putting a motor on the bike, its all about marginal gains. But they are very solid, and will help you on hills, and definitely when accelerating
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nick on March 24, 2016, 18:38:38 PM
Ordered a BMC carbon bike, feeling a little sick.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on March 24, 2016, 18:41:22 PM
Bit of a non sequitur, there :)
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nick on March 24, 2016, 19:25:33 PM
Well forking out for it made me feel a little sick, hopefully years of fun filled cycling will follow.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on March 24, 2016, 20:18:39 PM
Ah yes, I've had the same feeling when forking out for a watch or a guitar.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: NeilP on March 25, 2016, 09:33:41 AM
they're as good as they get, enjoy Nick
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on March 25, 2016, 12:43:43 PM
Being as it was a nice morning I went out and did a "quick" 22.5 miles. Turned it was a nice morning, I got a right sweat on! Only 900 feet of climbing involved, with most of that coming in a 511 feet climb over 3.4 miles. It was a bit of a drag for me at this stage of the season, but I did it.
Examination of my Strava segment times reveals me to be a flat track bully! I'm always in the top third of flat/downhill bits and well down the bottom third of uphill bits. Oh, my poor wasted lungs! It is giving me something to aim for though. Continual improvement, that's the thing!
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on March 25, 2016, 12:54:31 PM
Beautiful day out there, so I set out on the Saturday 25 miler. Wasn't sure how much charge was left in the batteries in my DAB, so I delayed switching it on until the 8 mile point. I was horrified to discover that the DAB wouldn't switch on. I think one of the batteries may be buggered; there should have been at least an hour left in them.

Anyway - I pressed on regardless, but took the short cut along the A444. 23.29 miles. Hope to go out later as well.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on March 25, 2016, 17:13:03 PM
Been out again. Just the 5.02 miles. My own stupid fault, I set the activity on my fitness watch to indoor walking, not cycling. I noticed something was up, but as I'd altered some display settings and wanted to see if they were working I just put it down to me ballsing things up. After a couple of miles, I realised what I must have done, so pelted back home to change the settings, which I did.  Then when setting off again, my right thigh told me it didn't want to work. I have it a good Jens Voight style telling off, but all in all it was right, so a slow ride uphill then back home again.
With tomorrow's weather looking iffy and then being out on Sunday, it'll give it some recuperation time for if Monday's weather forecast is wrong.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on March 26, 2016, 17:47:51 PM
Being as the weather was a bit inclement today - although not as bad as first forecast (until now) - I went out and bought this today:

(https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/12321429_10153442654945544_7209799124927293245_n.jpg?oh=1dd0ad5f27f133cb00cd7a0db1a573fe&oe=57905F5E)

There was 10% off down the local bike shop today, so that's a bit of money left for more cycling bits :)
Now, when's the weather going to dry off?
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: DavidL on March 26, 2016, 18:53:11 PM
Terrible weather here at the moment. Tomorrow's forecast is no rain until later so should get out in the morning. If weather is iffy (or roads wet) it'll be mountain bikes.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on March 26, 2016, 21:24:07 PM
Very nice, Nick! Nice to have disk brakes as well, never had them on a bike myself.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on March 26, 2016, 21:26:55 PM
Got disc brakes on my hybrid James. I like their stopping power and they're not as fiddly to adjust as rim brakes either. I haven't had to change the pads on the hybrid yet either. I suspect that that is worse than changing blocks on rim brakes.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on March 27, 2016, 11:36:05 AM
Taken the new bike out for a quick spin, twixt getting out of my pit and going out for lunch. It goes like stink. I think. Too much getting behind busses and then two bloody horses being ridden abreast >:(
Set a couple of PBs on Strava segments without trying :)
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on March 27, 2016, 12:29:16 PM
Went out on the hybrid on a made up and partly urban route, expecting the rain to come down at any minute so I didn't venture too far away from base. A bit gloomy and cold at first but it brightened up considerably after 30 minutes or so. No rain. A bit gusty. Nice to be out. 15.16 miles.

212 this month and I'd like to get that up to 250 or so if I can, looking doubtful at the moment though.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: DavidL on March 27, 2016, 13:00:24 PM
Just over 33 miles on the road bike this morning. Windy and got caught in rain in a couple of places. Not too happy about having to clean the bike off - with hindsight, chose the wrong steed. Nice to have done a bit though - Map my Ride has awarded me 1756 calories for my efforts so I feel a lot better about going out on the lash later!
Glad to hear you're enjoying the new Defy, Nick
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on March 27, 2016, 17:14:06 PM
It hasn't actually rained here yet, bar a few dismal spots about 15 minutes ago. I could have done loads today, very annoying.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on March 27, 2016, 20:51:49 PM
It still wasn't raining after dinner, so with the prospect of an extra hour's light, off out I went again on the hybrid to perform the Mildly Extended Belton Figure Of Eight.

As I pedalled along Wash Lane, a youth leaned out of the passenger window of an overtaking estate car, swore at me lividly and flung the contents of a cardboard carton of barbecue sauce at me. He managed to liberally splatter the right leg of my cycling leggings and my cycling shorts with it, but didn't hit the bike. He was recording the occasion for posterity with a smartphone propped out of the side window.

Not wishing to provide the worthless scrote with the thoroughly entertaining irate / distressed cyclist YouTube video production he was perhaps hoping for, I simply pedalled on determinedly as if nothing had happened. Fortunately the barbecue sauce (how did I know this was the particular condiment with which I had been assailed? I sniffed it with the help of my right cycling glove) on my right leg did not materially diminish my enjoyment of the remaining 15 miles or so, although I was annoyed.

Nice sunset. I like cycling at dusk, very atmospheric and the countryside has a distinctive smell at that time of night.

So - in the end, despite the portent of dismal weather I did about 31 miles today without getting rained on, although I did get garnished slightly. 228 done this month.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nick on March 27, 2016, 22:15:10 PM
Still waiting for delivery of the new bike, painful to have ordered it last Thursday with the long Easter weekend. Wouldn't have gone out on it anyway over the last couple of days, weather has been wet down here (rain rather than sauce). Cleaned out the garage instead while listening to Planet Rock. Then sat down and watched this bit of cycling history https://vimeo.com/21306164
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: DavidL on March 27, 2016, 23:31:01 PM

As I pedalled along Wash Lane, a youth leaned out of the passenger window of an overtaking estate car, swore at me lividly and flung the contents of a cardboard carton of barbecue sauce at me. He managed to liberally splatter the right leg of my cycling leggings and my cycling shorts with it, but didn't hit the bike. He was recording the occasion for posterity with a smartphone propped out of the side window.

Not wishing to provide the worthless scrote with the thoroughly entertaining irate / distressed cyclist YouTube video production he was perhaps hoping for, I simply pedalled on determinedly as if nothing had happened. Fortunately the barbecue sauce (how did I know this was the particular condiment with which I had been assailed? I sniffed it with the help of my right cycling glove) on my right leg did not materially diminish my enjoyment of the remaining 15 miles or so, although I was annoyed.


What a f*****g w****r. Absolute moron.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on March 28, 2016, 12:40:46 PM
Ordered a couple of these, and they've just turned up. Lovely snug fit and very nice for £6.69

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Sleeved-Cycling-Jersey-Impsport-40Chest/dp/B00BO9G98I

You can get decent cycling stuff for not a lot of £ on Amazon.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nick on March 28, 2016, 13:24:50 PM
Went out on my usual 18 mile route as the weather was dry this morning. However after last nights storm the roads were lethal, covered in mud, a lot of surface water and fallen twigs. Took it easy but hit some strong headwinds on the return leg which gave me a good work out.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on March 28, 2016, 19:06:59 PM
Just been out for 26 miles, left it as long as I could to let the roads dry off a bit. It's one of my regular rides, but I just gave it a different way at the start to avoid a country lane which may have been too snided up with mud and puddles from last night's rain. I then found that the main road had a river running down it, silly me had forgotten that after heavy rain various springs get reactivated and flow out through the road surface. Ho-hum.
It was a bit blowy out there from the West and the wheels on my new bike were catching it more than on the hybrid. Still, I set my fastest ever time for that run, despite a three mile slog straight into the wind half way round.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on March 28, 2016, 19:21:40 PM
It was mainly dry here after about midday, except for a torrential shower at about 4pm. Gave the roads a chance to dry out then took the hybrid out on the Belton Figure Of Eight at 5. A bit too blowy really, especially along Ashby Road, where I had to struggle against the wind for a few miles, and I forgot to take my helmet, but hey ho - another 15.49 in the bag.

I must remember to check the wind direction before setting off. If I'd done that part of the FO8 in the opposite direction, I wouldn't have had such a hard time of it/ Top Brand is much less exposed.

Still haven't seen any discarded knickers in the hedgerow this year.

243 this month.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on March 29, 2016, 11:43:42 AM
Did a nice 54 miler on Sunday morning, and a couple of fasted turbo sessions to keep the metabolism high over Easter

Why are you lot not using www.strava.com yet

Then we can all spy on each other
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on March 29, 2016, 11:58:45 AM
I did use it for a while a year ago but decided it was too much hassle taking a smartphone and kicking off the app every time. I'll give it another go though.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on March 29, 2016, 12:05:33 PM
Actually I've just looked at my last recorded Strava ride, very interesting - a shorter, 9 mile variation of my usual lunch break route, done in Feb 2015.  The average speed was only 8.9mph. I never race the clock, I just get on with it at what feels like a comfortable rate; exerting myself is not really my idea of fun. But I'd expect that to be about 12mph now.

https://www.strava.com/activities/255346356
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on March 29, 2016, 12:16:37 PM
Just started stalking you!

https://www.strava.com/activities/527974409

This was my sunday ride. Very windy and uphill for the last 20 miles.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on March 29, 2016, 12:26:14 PM
Not far from my usual lunch break route, that one, at least at its eastern extremity.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on March 29, 2016, 12:29:24 PM
Lovely over there, nice rolling countryside and not too many cars on the route we did

Think when the weather and light improves I will do it as my early morning ride on a Sunday, and aim to get under 3 hours, which should be manageable on a calmer day and when I unleash the carbon......
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: DavidL on March 29, 2016, 13:35:00 PM
Did a nice 54 miler on Sunday morning, and a couple of fasted turbo sessions to keep the metabolism high over Easter

Why are you lot not using www.strava.com yet

Then we can all spy on each other
Not too impressed with Map My Ride so I might give Strava a go instead.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on March 29, 2016, 13:37:18 PM
Not too impressed with Map My Ride so I might give Strava a go instead.

I used Map My ride to begin with, its OK. I do prefer Strava, and it is generally regarded now as the best of the buncg. Garmin's version is nice too, and it links to Strava anyway
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on March 29, 2016, 15:20:51 PM
Did the standard version of the lunch break route, 11.47 miles oddly (it's usually 11.52 or so). Because my smartphone was spying on me from my rear pocket, I pushed a bit harder than I normally would and got round in 52 minutes, which I'm sure is a personal best - despite being on the hybrid, and battling an oncoming wind for the first two or three miles. I must see what I can do on the road bike in calmer weather, although straining to get round in a quick time does diminish the fun somewhat, for me anyway.

https://www.strava.com/activities/529827965

Nice day out there if a touch blowy.

I see I did the Alton Hill stretch, which is a bit of a killer, in 2:45. Staggering to think someone has done it in 1:21, if Strava is to be believed.

Anyway that takes my monthly tally to 255, which is pleasing as 250 is the magic monthly number (3000/12).
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on March 29, 2016, 15:36:40 PM
The profile doesn't make it look that steep, but its been given a category 4 (red circle, number 4 in it) so must be a bit of a slog!
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nick on March 29, 2016, 15:37:28 PM
Interesting regarding the push or not to push. I have a garmin that I used from 2011, I found myself trying to beat times and actually found I enjoyed the cycling less and probably took a few more risks than I should, I stopped using it 2 years ago.My main thing is to ensure I keep enjoying the ride so I don't find an excuse not to do it.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on March 29, 2016, 15:41:58 PM
Interesting regarding the push or not to push. I have a garmin that I used from 2011, I found myself trying to beat times and actually found I enjoyed the cycling less and probably took a few more risks than I should, I stopped using it 2 years ago.My main thing is to ensure I keep enjoying the ride so I don't find an excuse not to do it.

I sometimes feel like that, and when I do I simply put the Garmin in my pocket. It still records, and I do like to keep track of what I have done

Its amazing how similar my performance is these days, which is pleasing.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on March 29, 2016, 16:15:54 PM
http://www.planetx.co.uk/c/q/deals/stock-liquidation?deal=PXPPP40&utm_source=The+Planet+X+and+On-One+Mailing+List&utm_campaign=0ab76ddf91-290316&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_561486488b-0ab76ddf91-272651689&mc_cid=0ab76ddf91&mc_eid=0f1dd48c23

Some unbelievable bargains here if you put in the extra 40% off code, especially in the clothing section.

Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nick on March 29, 2016, 19:41:24 PM
Thanks just nabbed a few things.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on March 29, 2016, 20:20:04 PM
This was - most - what I rode yesterday

https://www.strava.com/activities/529177902

From the start of this year I've recorded all my rides on my Garmin Vivoactive watch. Garmin Connect synchs straight through to Strava. I like to make sure I'm averaging over 16mph and that I show an improvement over the same courses during the year. With the new bike, I think I'll have to up the average to 17mph.

I've noticed a woman's been cheating on Strava. I'd set the second fastest time of the month down a stretch of the local bypass at a 24mph average, this woman averaged 43mph. Hmmm, the rest of her ride she'd been doing about 6mph down the local canal towpath...
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on March 29, 2016, 22:17:43 PM
Bought a new jersey from Halfords

http://www.halfords.com/cycling/cycling-clothing/jerseys-tops/ridge-mens-short-sleeve-jersey

For £4, how bad can it be?
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on March 29, 2016, 22:24:26 PM
This was - most - what I rode yesterday

https://www.strava.com/activities/529177902

From the start of this year I've recorded all my rides on my Garmin Vivoactive watch. Garmin Connect synchs straight through to Strava.

My road bike GPS unit, a Mio Cyclo will sync to Strava, and so will my two Garmin watches - however you need Windows software to do this I think, or at least that was the case last time I looked into it. I'm strictly Linux-only. I might check that again.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on March 29, 2016, 22:35:00 PM
In fact you can simply USB-attach a Garmin watch, then upload files from it straight into Strava! Happy days. Just uploaded a test but will delete it, as the watch battery expired half-way through.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on March 29, 2016, 22:43:58 PM
Just uploaded a couple from last year, this one for example, from September - the date and distance do match up with my 2015 spreadsheet record:

https://www.strava.com/activities/530221308

Really nice to be able to track routes with the watch. I don't quite understand why they were still on there though, as I'm sure I've done a "delete all history" since then.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: döm on March 30, 2016, 09:09:21 AM
I'd like to join in the fun but I've just bought a cadence sensor and a heartbeat monitor which both run with the runtastic road bike app.  Not sure the phone could cope with 2 GPS based apps running at once but I'll give it a go and see what happens. 

What with family commitments and the bad weather I didn't get much cycling done over the Easter weekend so my March figure stands at 318kms and 530 for the year.

Still looking at bikes and I've moved away from the Boardman hybrid and am looking very closely at a Merida Road bike.  A bit more expensive than the boardman but the bike to work scheme does make it much more affordable.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on March 30, 2016, 09:36:40 AM
I'd like to join in the fun but I've just bought a cadence sensor and a heartbeat monitor which both run with the runtastic road bike app.  Not sure the phone could cope with 2 GPS based apps running at once but I'll give it a go and see what happens. 

What with family commitments and the bad weather I didn't get much cycling done over the Easter weekend so my March figure stands at 318kms and 530 for the year.

Still looking at bikes and I've moved away from the Boardman hybrid and am looking very closely at a Merida Road bike.  A bit more expensive than the boardman but the bike to work scheme does make it much more affordable.
Might be worth firing both apps up, then go into whatever phone you use (I use Samsung, so Android) and it will tell you what is zapping the battery life the most
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on March 30, 2016, 15:36:08 PM
Took the road bike out on a slightly different version of the Truncated Belton FO8. A bit blowy, but sunny and dry. 12.21 miles. I took the other Garmin watch, but it's a pain to get the files off there unfortunately. The USB lead is charge-only and the little USB dongle it uses is a pain to get working under Linux.

267 done this month, and looking at the weather forecast, I'm not done yet!
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on March 30, 2016, 17:45:32 PM
Just in case I didn't have enough bikes, I have won one! The big Birmingham Bike giveaway, and I have been chosen to win one of these orange beauties!!!

(http://40.media.tumblr.com/380727693370070947eff2ed97c83ce3/tumblr_ngy5cigUVX1s7ai3ao1_1280.jpg)

Claire is going to kill me!
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nick on March 30, 2016, 20:35:22 PM
Out on the new bike today, took it very easy due to new pedal types (spd sl vs spd) and new gear shifters (105 vs sora). Will head up to Exmoor tomorrow for a full workout, forecast is good.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on March 30, 2016, 21:30:34 PM
Congrats on the new bike, Jonners!  It looks very orange.

Managed to export today's cycle trip from the other Garmin watch using an Android app that connects wirelessly and exports straight to Strava, very handy

https://www.strava.com/activities/531122612
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on March 31, 2016, 09:49:17 AM
It looks very heavy!
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on March 31, 2016, 11:08:57 AM
Thoroughly decent commuter / trip to the shops / pub sort of bike though, for those occasions where you don't want to wear cycling shoes or wear the tyres on your better bikes.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on March 31, 2016, 11:15:54 AM
That's a fair point, and for riding with the kids at the park etc. probably safer in shitty conditions too

Mrs M having a fit about me having 4 bikes in the garage though.

maybe if I buy her a new frock it may help.....
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nick on March 31, 2016, 12:36:44 PM
32 miles round trip up the Exe Valley to Dulverton on the edge of Exmoor, beautiful day. Arse is getting used to the new bike saddle, ouch.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on March 31, 2016, 15:10:27 PM
Since the conditions were similar to Tuesday - dry and a little bit windy, and I was wearing the same clothing -  I thought I'd give myself a push on the usual lunch break route again, but with the road bike to compare to the hybrid. I did it in 52 mins on the hybrid on Tuesday, and 45 today. Conscious that I was racing the clock I did cut a couple of corners outrageously to turn right in front of oncoming traffic.

As I've said not really my idea of fun, but nice to have that comparison. At one time I very consistently did that course in about 67 minutes, but that was before I took the tractor tyres off the hybrid and swapped on a skinnier and smoother pair (if anyone reading this wants to liven up a pair of 26" wheels, I highly recommend Schwalbe City Jets - they made a big difference and have held up very well).

https://www.strava.com/activities/531669028

Three personal records. And I suspect they will stand for a very long time.

Anyway - 11.48 miles, which brings my monthly total to a respectable 278 miles. I may go out later as well, while the sun's shining.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on March 31, 2016, 17:00:47 PM
well done!

The beauty of the bike mounted garmins is that you can have autopause on them, so if you do stop for traffic, so does the recording

Means you don't feel under any pressure at tough junctions, or if you have a blow out etc
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on March 31, 2016, 19:51:23 PM
Thanks! Not sure if the wristwatch versions do that, don't think so.

Went out on the hybrid after work on an unusual variation of the Belton F08, designed to take in some scenes I wanted to photograph. Not exactly a quick ride, but I stopped to get the camera out a few times and was taking it easy anyway.

https://www.strava.com/activities/531936479

17.59 miles, which brings the March campaign to a grand total of 296. 832 done this year.

I'll have a look at the camera and upload some pics later if they turn out nice.


Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on March 31, 2016, 21:02:45 PM
(http://truth.justdied.com/images/16Mar01.jpg)

The graveyard at Breedon Lane


(http://truth.justdied.com/images/16Mar02.jpg)

Breedon Lane


(http://truth.justdied.com/images/16Mar03.jpg)

The windmill at New Swannington


(http://truth.justdied.com/images/16Mar04.jpg)

Sunset from Heather Lane

Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on March 31, 2016, 22:05:41 PM
Earlier this evening I exchanged a wave and a smile with a female cyclist coming the other way. Because she's also a Strava user, once I got home I was able to find out that her name is Verity, and see the route she'd taken on her own ride superimposed on the same map as mine - you can even play back your ride and see yourself going round the map as a little circular icon, with other riders going round their own routes at the same time. It's a feature called 'FlyBy'. Very nice.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on April 01, 2016, 09:44:19 AM
Strava is a very, very nice app. And its free!

The flyby thing is a nice touch too

Did this last night on the turbo trainer:-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUKL8NMwA9Y

They do lots of different training videos

And here are the results. Wont necessarily mean a lot, but the turbo is set to an incline (level 3 out of 5) so its quite testing. You can see the intervals on the graphs of speed and cadence. If I was being critical of myself, the spikes are not pronounced enough, I am probably going too slow in the faster bits, and too fast in the slower bits

https://www.strava.com/activities/532366302



Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on April 01, 2016, 09:46:00 AM
Beautiful pictures by the way James, I love the windmill which I imagine is an absolutely fabulously trendy and expensive abode now.

And I want it!
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on April 01, 2016, 10:03:16 AM
Thanks J!

The windmill was actually a derelict ruin until it was restored in the '90s. It's open to the public now, though I've never visited it myself. I was pleased to get this pic with the last rays of the day's sunlight catching it .

(http://www.swannington-heritage.co.uk/scans/mill_refurbishment_tower.jpg)
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: andyhaines on April 01, 2016, 10:22:24 AM
Interesting that in this age of "it's gotta be carbon this and carbon that," the bike that has just won the Cycling Plus' Bike of the Year is a  aluminium, sub- £1500 model from Cannondale. In fact, aluminium road bikes seem to be making a big comeback.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on April 01, 2016, 10:24:29 AM
I like mine which I use in winter, but by Christ it is heavy!
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: döm on April 01, 2016, 10:33:56 AM
How much does it weigh Jonners?  The bike I'm going to replace is over 20kgs and its replacement is less than half that so I'm hoping to find inclines easier.

Great pics Slim!  Looks like a lovely part of the World
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on April 01, 2016, 10:43:39 AM
How much does it weigh Jonners?  The bike I'm going to replace is over 20kgs and its replacement is less than half that so I'm hoping to find inclines easier.

Great pics Slim!  Looks like a lovely part of the World

http://www.planetx.co.uk/i/q/CBPXRT58ALUAPEX/planet-x-rt-58-alloy-sram-apex-road-bike

8.8kg

But then when you add the tool bag, couple of full water bottles, pump getting well above 10kg

(much less than 20kg though Dom!)

Its a lovely bike though, great value, and super comfortable. Didn'y buy it to become KOM on Mt Ventoux though!!!!
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on April 01, 2016, 11:29:40 AM
I guess it's relative but to me my road bike feels very light at about 10.5kg. I don't know what the hybrid weighs, but certainly more (maybe 15 at a guess). Given that I'm adding my own weight (haven't weighed myself but at least 65kg) the actual % difference in what you push up a hill is not that great. It all counts of course but on a typical ride where I'm taking it easy the hybrid doesn't feel like much harder work.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: NeilP on April 01, 2016, 11:35:57 AM
My 20 year steel bike with campag groupset weighs in at about 8.5kgs I think... more forgiving than carbon too
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on April 01, 2016, 11:55:34 AM

Its a lovely bike though, great value, and super comfortable. Didn'y buy it to become KOM on Mt Ventoux though!!!!

No, you need a Raleigh Chopper for that, ideally

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNaqRgGOuQQ
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Straight Shooter on April 01, 2016, 12:53:53 PM
Beautiful pictures by the way James, I love the windmill .....
+1  :)
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on April 01, 2016, 12:55:38 PM
No, you need a Raleigh Chopper for that, ideally

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNaqRgGOuQQ


Or a Boris Bike
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUWCeAzkc2Q


Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nick on April 01, 2016, 13:34:19 PM
24 miles this morning, was going well until a headwind blew up, also on both the descents of any worth I had to stop due to horses and a large Lorry which rather takes the reward out of the climbs.
Ordered some C02 tyre inflators which I have never used before but look like fun.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: andyhaines on April 01, 2016, 16:02:44 PM
I like mine which I use in winter, but by Christ it is heavy!
Bike Radar says the Cannondale CAAD12 (2016) weighs in at 8.1 kg...the same weight as my carbon Cube. But it's not all about weight (unless all you do is climb)...stiffness, aerodynamics, power transfer, etc.,, etc., all influence how well and quickly a bike can shift.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: andyhaines on April 01, 2016, 16:05:38 PM

My 20 year steel bike with campag groupset weighs in at about 8.5kgs I think... more forgiving than carbon too
:-)
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on April 01, 2016, 16:56:23 PM
Bike Radar says the Cannondale CAAD12 (2016) weighs in at 8.1 kg...the same weight as my carbon Cube. But it's not all about weight (unless all you do is climb)...stiffness, aerodynamics, power transfer, etc.,, etc., all influence how well and quickly a bike can shift.

Very true. you have to remember my Planet X was £599 as well. I imagine the Cannondale is a very, very nicely put together and finished bike. Mine looks like a blind welder did a couple of the joins!!!
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on April 01, 2016, 21:37:36 PM
Some will know this already, but I've just discovered that Google Maps has an import feature - you can plot a course using bikehike.co.uk or an equivalent service, export it to a GPX file, then import it from there into My Maps. So if you take a smartphone with you on an unfamiliar route, you can easily see where you are in relation to your preferred route.

Obviously you can do the plan / export / import part on a PC and your route will show up in Google Maps on your phone assuming you're using the same Google identity.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on April 02, 2016, 17:39:49 PM
Slight increase to the ride distance again today, up to a 30 mile ride. Well, Garmin says 30, Strava says 29.9, my old cycle computer from last year said 30.23. So, about 30 miles then.
Some of the by-roads are still a bit bepuddled and covered in mud from tractors moving between fields, the new bike needs a good wash again. Managed to average 17.3 mph (17.7 moving speed) which is a good 1 mph over what I was doing last year. Am I fitter? No! Is it the new bike? Most probably.
My main aim for today was to average over 10 mph on the cote de Mastin Moor. Turns out I hit 10.1 mph, which almost puts me in the top third of people who have climbed it according to Strava. I'm normally in the bottom third on uphill segments, so I'm happy with that :)
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on April 02, 2016, 18:24:34 PM
Got up at 0600 this morning, fully intending to do the 61 mile round trip to Rutland and back. But despite a promising weather forecast yesterday, it was in fact pouring down with rain. So I went back to bed.

Warm, sunny and dry here after lunchtime though. I fitted a new saddle I'd bought on a whim to the road bike, adjusted the front derailleur again - one of the limit screws was out a touch - and by 4pm the roads had dried up enough for a trip out, so I performed the Saturday 25-miler, slightly modified by an extension through Sibson. I wore my cycling shorts without leggings for the first time this year, and just a cycling jersey. Regretted it slightly at first but soon warmed up in the Sun.

https://www.strava.com/activities/533684226

I don't think I've ever done that one in less than two hours, yet without wanting to push myself or racing the clock, I made it round in about 1 hr 50 mins, despite stopping to change DAB batteries near Barton in the Beans. But the road bike seems to insist that you keep pushing somehow; it seems to urge you to maintain a momentum - especially since I put the new wheels on. The new saddle is surprisingly comfortable too, despite being made of rigid plastic - although it's not padded at all there's a little bit of give in it due to the webbed design. Not only that, but it's lighter, and it's green. Will definitely keep it on.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/TOP-MAX®-Absorbtion-Cycling-Mountain-Bicycle/dp/B00LWXB7Z6

24.8 miles and that was easy; I could easily do two of those in the same day which bodes well for the Rutland trip.

Anyway that's the April Campaign off to a decent start. 857 done this year.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on April 02, 2016, 21:30:26 PM
But the road bike seems to insist that you keep pushing somehow; it seems to urge you to maintain a momentum
Yes, my new road bike keeps speaking to me saying "Is that all you can do big boy?", the legs talk back saying (in a Jens Voight accent) "Ja, it is actually".
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: döm on April 02, 2016, 21:52:19 PM
365kms for March and after a 35k mostly dry ride with the Trim Wheelers up to 618 for the year. With Louise working evenings next week won't be able to get any decent runs after work but hopefully be able to get in a few lunchtimes.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on April 03, 2016, 14:39:03 PM
I did what I shall call the Diseworth Figure Of Eight, an expanded version of the Belton Figure Of Eight. I've done this route a couple of times now.

 https://www.strava.com/activities/534492857
 
I seem to have broken three personal records without actually trying (although I've done those segments loads of times without Strava overseeing matters, so probably not).

The possibility of doing the Rutland trip did cross my mind this morning, but I'm glad I didn't as it's a bit blowy. Otherwise nice though, and the wind wasn't enough to spoil the fun over 20.50 miles.

45 done already this month, happy with that. 877 this year (compared to 339 this time last year) so I'm looking good for 3000 by Dec 31st.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nick on April 03, 2016, 15:57:51 PM
Usual route this morning, 24 Kms, got some pretty goods speeds going now that the roads have started drying properly.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on April 03, 2016, 17:30:53 PM
Been out and done the Cold de Three Handleys a 20.2 mile ride.

https://www.strava.com/activities/534696983

Last did it on Good Friday on the Hybrid at an average of 16.5 mph, on the new Road Bike I averaged 17.5, If the weather conditions had been the same it would have been even quicker, but there was a southerly breeze funnelling up the Drone valley today which made a nice downhill seven miles into more of a trial. Traffic lights were against me too and on the climb up to the Handleys a set of traffic lights had appeared, not in the best place as I struggled to clip back in again on an uphill stretch. Ho-hum.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nick on April 03, 2016, 20:32:51 PM
Considering doing this again, its only in a couple of weeks. http://www.exmoorbeauty.org/index.html







Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on April 04, 2016, 09:33:16 AM
Lots of riding and lots of improvements fellers! Chapeaux!

I did this one yesterday, but by myself and it was a lovely crisp morning, some mud and puddles around but on the whole very nice indeed

https://www.strava.com/activities/535051218#kudos

Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: NeilP on April 04, 2016, 14:32:23 PM
Just out of curiosity, does that Strava app measure total elevation climbed... only wondered as looking at the graph, the ride seems to start at 500 ft up and seems mostly downhill for the first 10 miles?
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on April 04, 2016, 14:56:13 PM
Yes, the first part of the ride is relatively easy, heading out towards Lichfield which is sort of low lying/in a valley. Sutton Coldfield is  relatively much higher
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on April 05, 2016, 10:31:52 AM
CO2 tyre pump and new Planet X bib shorts arrived today

Both very nice, especially the shorts
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: NeilP on April 05, 2016, 12:17:01 PM
Do all of the Garmin bike computers have the auto pause facility does anyone know?
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on April 05, 2016, 12:20:17 PM
http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news/product-news/garmin-edge-complete-buyers-guide-183499

Not sure.....sorry

Mine does, the 800
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: NeilP on April 05, 2016, 12:20:45 PM
ta Jonners
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on April 05, 2016, 16:50:54 PM
I did the usual lunch break route, slightly extended, Very blowy for the first half (and presumably the second half, but blowing in a more sympathetic direction relative to direction of travel)

https://www.strava.com/activities/536530592

11.75, 57 done this month.

2112 miles to go! If you round up, anyway,
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on April 05, 2016, 17:37:39 PM
getting close to the time of year where I can pop out after work now rather than the tedium of the turbo trainer. Happy days.

http://www.ukcyclingevents.co.uk/events/wiggle-forest-ranger-sportive/

Doing this later in the year, some lovely areas to ride through
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nick on April 05, 2016, 18:49:50 PM
Did the same myself, first post work ride this year, 17 miles at a fair crack.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on April 05, 2016, 19:55:00 PM
Had a run out to Derbyshire and back at 5:30 or so. 16.17 miles

https://www.strava.com/activities/536744539

I've also entered the April Climbing Challenge : https://www.strava.com/challenges/April-2016-climbing-challenge

This requires me to climb 5,500 metres before May. I've currently done 764 in 73 miles, so unless I was to hand-pick outlandishly hilly routes (no thanks), I'd have to do more than 500 miles this month to get my "digital finisher's badge". Unlikely to happen.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on April 05, 2016, 20:08:44 PM
As I came up to Heather Lane, I saw another cyclist cross ahead of me on a very posh looking bike. Checked to see if he was recording his ride on Strava, and indeed he was. His name's Harry, he was about 1/4 of the way through a 30 mile ride and he averaged 20 mph over the whole distance.


Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on April 06, 2016, 09:13:56 AM
Having a few days off in salcombe, no bikes. I quite like to have a week off now and again, I find I come back refreshed and almost feeling stronger
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on April 06, 2016, 21:48:03 PM
Wish I'd stuck to my original plan for Sunday and just done a gentle 20 miler, instead of one with a big hill in the middle then trying to go as fast as possible downhill into a headwind. My thighs are still telling me off.
April 6th was the first day I used my bike last year. I think I'm trying to get ahead of myself.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: andyhaines on April 07, 2016, 09:02:32 AM
Haven't been out on the bike for over a week now due to having my kids for the holidays. Definitely getting withdrawal symptoms! :P
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on April 07, 2016, 20:27:25 PM
Just been out for a "quick" 1.69 mile ride. I noticed there was a Strava segment just up the road from me, one which I studiously avoid, as it's uphill...
But, I wanted to see how I compared to other people, so out came the hybrid and off I went. I'm sure the Strava elevation profile makes it look a more constant grade than it is as it starts off a lot less steeply than 11% and probably peaks at more than 14%. Anyhow, out of 103 people to have ridden it, I'm 9th and fastest for the year. Have to see how much the road bike can take off the time.

https://www.strava.com/segments/3742246
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nick on April 07, 2016, 20:55:14 PM
Usual ride tonight, seemed an excess of dead pheasants on the roads. Reminded me of how once a startled blackbird flew out of a hedge straight into my front spokes, killed instantly, felt quite sad about it.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on April 07, 2016, 21:51:42 PM
Not hit a bird yet. Thankfully. Bloody pheasants don't half make a racket when they shoot out of hedges. Nearly had a couple of squirrels and once just missed a stoat.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on April 08, 2016, 16:37:46 PM
Did a variation of the lunchtime route that loops through Newton Burgoland and adds about .8 of a mile. Nice and quiet over that part of the ride, but the roads were a bit puddlier as well. The splodge of rain that I noticed coming over on the rainfall radar must just have missed Chez Slim, but caught Newton Burgoland.

Anyway 13.31 miles, 86 this month and 917 this year. Should hit 1000 in a few days.

https://www.strava.com/activities/539260957
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on April 08, 2016, 20:30:40 PM
Did the Diseworth FO8, with a bit of variation in the middle. 21.08 miles.

https://www.strava.com/activities/539443887

107 this month,quite happy with my April tally so far. 939 this year which is 556 more than I'd done this time last year.

There's a stretch between Long Whatton and Diseworth that's decorated by a large dead bird every 80 metres or so. I counted five; two pigeons, a pheasant, one I can't remember and a buzzard. One of the pigeons had had its head and neck removed completely; there was just a large bloody hole where its neck would once have started. I wonder what would have done that - a cat? A fox, perhaps? A sparrowhawk?
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on April 09, 2016, 15:16:10 PM
Did my Saturday route shortened by a shortcut along the A444, firstly because I was on call, and secondly because I was cold. I opted to go out in just a short-sleeved cycling jersey and shorts; a decision I regretted the whole 23.29 miles, not least because my conspicuously erect nipples became a bit sore.

Despite that I quite enjoyed it and was thoroughly entertained by 5 Live's coverage of the West Ham / Arsenal game.

I was lucky with the weather. As I arrived home I could see rain falling from clouds a couple of miles away, and ten minutes after that we had a hailstone shower here.

https://www.strava.com/activities/540118158
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on April 09, 2016, 19:10:36 PM
Upped the mileage again today. The - now defunct - Vivoactive says I did 46.1 miles, but it was nearer 48 as I forgot to turn the blasted thing on when I set off!
I did intend to do a long leisurely ride today, trying to keep in HR zone 3, but I knew there was a Strava segment early on where I could go top 10, so I upped the tempo there and now sit 5th out of 403 :) I wanted to go quicker up the Cote de Mastin Moor too, which I did, taking 24 seconds off my previous time :)
Once up Mastin Moor it's then a nice rolling ride towards Worksop and the Dukeries, where you can maintain a good pace with little effort, which was nice. I had a quick stop off at Creswell Crags, where I like to pay my respects at a memorial to a Canadian Wellington Bomber crew who died in a crash there in WWII. From the Crags it was another nice run down to Cuckney on the edge of Sherwood Forest, then up through the Langwiths, or at least it should have been a run through the Langwiths as I managed to take a wrong turning and ended up at Shirebrook. Not a good place to find yourself, so I hammered down on the pedals to leave as quickly as possible. I think someone must have nicked all the road signs.
Back on track it was a quick thrash to Clowne then a nice downhill to Renishaw and Eckington. Then the fun started, the sky turned black and the wind got up, a headwind natch, which was there all the way home. Then the rain started. Like machine gun bullets. Every junction I had to stop and unclip at. Great.
Then back home to drop the Vivoactive on the kitchen floor and consign it to history. However when placed on its charging cradle I could still get at the data so all was not lost.

https://www.strava.com/activities/540302507
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nick on April 10, 2016, 13:08:29 PM
22 miles this morning at a leisurely pace, quite blowy. Really loving the new bike. https://www.strava.com/activities/540955884
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on April 10, 2016, 16:02:04 PM
Attempted a ride out to Hartshorne and back, which would have been a first. But I failed to take the necessary right turn from the A511. Anyway once I realised what I'd done I pressed on to Woodville, then took an unfamiliar turn, deciding to navigate home by road signs and chance. By the time I got to Blackfordby I decided I was lost, but couldn't get a mobile broadband signal for Google Maps. But I continued and soon found myself heading toward Ashby Road, which took me back to Ashby and back the way I came.

The route is too hilly and a bit too busy to be a regular feature. Nice change nonetheless.

https://www.strava.com/activities/541286836

As I left my garage and mounted the bike I realised I was wearing yellow cycling shoes, shorts with prominent yellow flashes and a yellow top. Just as well I wasn't wearing my yellow helmet cover or I might have looked a bit of a dick.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on April 10, 2016, 16:13:54 PM
Just been out for 11.23 miles, to keep the legs ticking over. Having lost the to record to my watch yesterday, I tried downloading the Runtastic Bike app to my phone, I singularly failed to get it to work properly. Ho-hum. Probably need a new phone too.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on April 10, 2016, 17:20:22 PM
Just had a look at my FlyBys - the bloke I exchanged a wave with coming through Ashby, despite looking a bit middle-aged and portly, was on a 63 mile ride, which he completed in 4.5 hrs.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on April 11, 2016, 09:36:06 AM
After a week off in Salcombe, fancied a little spin in the sun yesterday. Very nice

https://www.strava.com/activities/541211711

Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: döm on April 11, 2016, 13:44:47 PM
Just been out for 11.23 miles, to keep the legs ticking over. Having lost the to record to my watch yesterday, I tried downloading the Runtastic Bike app to my phone, I singularly failed to get it to work properly. Ho-hum. Probably need a new phone too.

getting a bit annoyed with the runtastic app - I have it attached to a heart rate monitor and it either doesn't work at all or gives a ridiculously low reading. 

A long, for me, 46k yesterday morning has put me up to 197km for the month and 775km for the year.

The ride yesterday was on my new bike - a Merida pro lite 900.

Initial impresssions, compared to my heavy hybrid is that it is very easy on the legs and lungs but a literal pain in the you know where.

Think I'll have to take Jonners advice and upgrade from Aldi cycling leg wear
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on April 11, 2016, 14:04:37 PM
getting a bit annoyed with the runtastic app - I have it attached to a heart rate monitor and it either doesn't work at all or gives a ridiculously low reading. 

A long, for me, 46k yesterday morning has put me up to 197km for the month and 775km for the year.

The ride yesterday was on my new bike - a Merida pro lite 900.

Initial impresssions, compared to my heavy hybrid is that it is very easy on the legs and lungs but a literal pain in the you know where.

Think I'll have to take Jonners advice and upgrade from Aldi cycling leg wear

That Merida looks fantastic, and great value and reviews.

http://www.bikeradar.com/road/gear/category/bikes/road/product/review-merida-race-lite-900-13-46815/

Shorts and saddles. Don't go too cheap. Will literally be a pain in the arse on longer runs.

The Planet X bib shorts I just bought are fantastic, as is the Fabric Saddle at a stonking £39.99

http://fabric.cc/shop/saddles/scoop/

Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on April 11, 2016, 16:51:26 PM
I've been very happy with the stuff I've got fairly cheap off Amazon

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Tenn-Outdoors-Professional-Moulded-Cycling-Shorts/dp/B009RXS6C0

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Black-Tights-Compression-Running-Sports/dp/B00OL8SVBW/

And my saddle was £4.99 ..  :)

Anyway, I did the standard lunchtime route augmented by some faffing around in Ravenstone. 12.39, which leaves me with about 10 miles to go to clock up 1000 this year. Quite enjoyable for the first half but a strong headwind beat me up a bit approaching Packington. I felt my lower lip tremble as Alton Hill loomed into view.


https://www.strava.com/activities/542281103
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on April 11, 2016, 17:00:01 PM
All looks nice kit, good reviews too

I moved away from shorts a while back, and now only use bib shorts.

They do tend to stay in one place much better, and also the bib acts like wearing a vest, so another layer if required
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on April 11, 2016, 17:13:02 PM
Was thinking about going out to clock up the big 1K straight after work, but the band of rain that's pushing up the British Isles is perilously close now

(http://truth.justdied.com/images/bandofrain.jpg)
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on April 11, 2016, 17:17:01 PM
All looks nice kit, good reviews too

I moved away from shorts a while back, and now only use bib shorts.

They do tend to stay in one place much better, and also the bib acts like wearing a vest, so another layer if required

I'm sure they're very practical.. they just remind of this a bit

(http://cdn.images.dailystar.co.uk/dynamic/33/photos/778000/620x/170778.jpg)
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on April 11, 2016, 17:45:54 PM
Aggghh!  My eyes....
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: döm on April 11, 2016, 19:03:19 PM
That Merida looks fantastic, and great value and reviews.

http://www.bikeradar.com/road/gear/category/bikes/road/product/review-merida-race-lite-900-13-46815/

Shorts and saddles. Don't go too cheap. Will literally be a pain in the arse on longer runs.

The Planet X bib shorts I just bought are fantastic, as is the Fabric Saddle at a stonking £39.99

http://fabric.cc/shop/saddles/scoop/



Thanks. The guy in my local bike shop really recommended it to me and it was at my budget.

And a good pair of leg wear ( not sure I'll go full Borat!) is definitely on the shopping list
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on April 11, 2016, 19:48:13 PM
Nice wheels, döm (y)
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on April 12, 2016, 09:19:13 AM
Just had my winter bike serviced! A salutary lesson to us all in how to clean and maintain a bike.
new brake pads
New chain, pins all worn down
New Cassette, couple of rings worn away
New Bottom Bracket. Rusted to buggery

Avoid water when washing or riding, blast the crap out of your chain with GT85 and the straw, and wipe off any excess oil.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on April 12, 2016, 10:34:03 AM
And never throw away the red straws when your can of WD40 or GT85 reaches the end of its life! They're so easy to lose. I wish they'd make them bright yellow instead of red.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on April 12, 2016, 10:42:52 AM
Thanks. The guy in my local bike shop really recommended it to me and it was at my budget.

And a good pair of leg wear ( not sure I'll go full Borat!) is definitely on the shopping list

Another 50% off stuff at Planet X today Dom

You will get some great shorts and legware
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on April 12, 2016, 16:11:37 PM
A  bit cold and breezy but I did the standard lunchtime on the hybrid, which takes me to 1001 miles done this year. 1999 to go.

https://www.strava.com/activities/543176456
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on April 12, 2016, 19:48:59 PM
Out after work on the road bike for a variation of the time-honoured Belton FO8. 15.45 miles; that's 185 this month. Came back up through Swannington which I wouldn't normally, but in the back of my mind I'm entertaining the faint possibility that I'll complete the April climbing challenge. 2145 metres climbed so far this month.

I went out to Belton along Ashby Rd, and back along Top Brand. I generally prefer this way round because the headwind along Ashby Rd can be fierce riding East to West. But the left hand side of the road coming down through Top Brand is disgraceful, the surface is potholed and crumbling apart. Can't win.

https://www.strava.com/activities/543408544
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nick on April 12, 2016, 20:23:22 PM
22 miles on a glorious sunny evening. A suicidal baby rabbit nearly did for me on one of the descents, otherwise the air was quite still and managed some good speeds again. Plenty of pheasants and buzzards as usual. https://www.strava.com/activities/543364897
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on April 12, 2016, 20:38:52 PM
1.08 miles on a dull evening. Just to test out  the Garmin Edge 520 bought to replace the Vivoactive.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: NeilP on April 12, 2016, 21:16:32 PM
1.08 miles on a dull evening. Just to test out  the Garmin Edge 520 bought to replace the Vivoactive.

does it pause when you're stationary Nick?
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on April 12, 2016, 21:36:00 PM
I think that depends on the application that you feed the data to - so for example if you upload an activity to Strava, the server there will examine each of the position / time points to determine when you were stationary. If that's the case then the same "moving time" and average moving speed will be reported irrespective of what device is used to capture the location and time data.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on April 12, 2016, 21:47:33 PM
does it pause when you're stationary Nick?
I've not got far enough into the instructions yet...

I'm pretty sure it does though Neil.

Page 14, autopause, yes. You can set it to autopause when stopped, or even when your speed drops below a certain level (why?)
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: NeilP on April 12, 2016, 22:11:26 PM
thanks
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on April 13, 2016, 09:20:53 AM
I think that depends on the application that you feed the data to - so for example if you upload an activity to Strava, the server there will examine each of the position / time points to determine when you were stationary. If that's the case then the same "moving time" and average moving speed will be reported irrespective of what device is used to capture the location and time data.



You set autopause on the device itself. Then, with Garmin products, most people upload them via something called Garmin Connect. Your PC will show a link to this in Windows explorer when you have put the wire into your Garmin and PC.

I cant remember them if you set up strava to link to Garmin Connect or the other way round, or even if you have to, but basically when I plug my garmin in when I get to work, I get a message up fairly quickly saying sync complete to Garmin Connect, then it magically appears on Strava

The beauty of autopause is that you cab have a 30 minute coffee break or lunch on a ride, but your average speed does not get affected on Strava.

You notice this on long sportives of 70 miles and above, when there are a couple of feed stops, or even 3 when you are doing 100 miles plus. These events normally have their own timing set up via a chip on your helmet, but are not sophisticated enough to have a pause facility. Your official time at the even and average speed is always much worse than your strava time.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on April 13, 2016, 10:38:58 AM
That's good, but I believe Strava (and possibly other applications) will do that for you anyway, on analysis of the data

"We started by looking at the process we have on our server for calculating moving time after upload and figuring out how to make that happen in real-time. The moving time calculation on the server looks for portions of the activity where the athlete was moving below a certain speed threshold for more than 15 seconds and removes that time as “resting time”, leaving the remainder as moving time."

http://labs.strava.com/blog/improving-auto-pause-for-everyone/
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on April 13, 2016, 11:26:55 AM
Interesting. good find.

I don't use the app or my phone, just my garmin800 edge mounted on the bike then download afterwards. Very doubtful my phone would last battery wise on a lot of the rides I do
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: döm on April 13, 2016, 13:13:59 PM
Another 50% off stuff at Planet X today Dom

You will get some great shorts and legware

Thanks Jonners,  I've ordered a pair from the group I cycle with occasionally at the weekends - not cheap -  €72.00 - but they are meant to be excellent
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on April 13, 2016, 13:59:42 PM
Christ!

What are they?

Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on April 13, 2016, 14:47:22 PM
Lovely day out there. Rather than the regular lunch route, I did the truncated version of the Belton FO8 that doesn't actually go to Belton - I think I'll call it the Truncated Top Brand Run.

One annoying thing about Strava is that it only displays your distances to one decimal place, and it doesn't round up - so for example 12.59 miles will be displayed as 12.5. Have to remember to look at your GPS watch if you're keeping a spreadsheet. Or alternatively upload the .FIT file somewhere else.

https://www.strava.com/activities/544104923

I've now done 2,292 metres on the April climbing challenge and I'm starting to think I could complete it! At least if the weather is kind enough.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: döm on April 13, 2016, 15:28:19 PM
Christ!

What are they?



Made by this crowd...

http://spin11.com/
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on April 13, 2016, 16:49:10 PM
very nice.

The most I have spent is £35 on some Funkier ones, but they were reduced by 66% (allegedly)

You will notice a difference
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: döm on April 13, 2016, 16:56:47 PM
very nice.

The most I have spent is £35 on some Funkier ones, but they were reduced by 66% (allegedly)

You will notice a difference
You've made me think again tbh, especially as I'll have to wait till June to get them.    The group is to order them in bulk and if my pulling out doesn't affect the cost I'll look for something cheaper instead.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on April 13, 2016, 17:09:02 PM
It does seem a lot to me, presumably because they will be bespoke, with their club design on them etc. They will be nice though

http://www.planetx.co.uk/i/q/CLPXCMBS/planet-x-clubman-bib-shorts

I just bought 2 pairs of these in black. You missed the extra 20% last week. But you could get 2 pairs and still have money left for a nice top or some leggings for the cold
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on April 13, 2016, 19:27:01 PM
Went out after work on an expanded version of the usual lunchtime route, designed to take in some hilliness near Ibstock. 44% of the April Climbing Challenge done. I will say though that the old legs felt a bit worse for wear negotiating Alton Hill on the way back. I may have whimpered slightly.

https://www.strava.com/activities/544391404
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on April 13, 2016, 20:36:35 PM
Don't think I'll get anywhere near the April climbing challenge, only at 24% so far. Only had time to squeeze in 5.17 miles tonight on my baby course. Managed my best time of the year on it though, got a fastest  personal time on a Strava segment and my average HR was 16bpm lower than it was for the same course in January :)
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: andyhaines on April 14, 2016, 06:49:37 AM
The seemingly unstoppable shift towards disc brakes on road bikes may have, err, stopped....




http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/uci-suspends-road-disc-brakes-in-races-after-ventoso-injury/
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on April 14, 2016, 09:15:59 AM
Don't think I'll get anywhere near the April climbing challenge, only at 24% so far. Only had time to squeeze in 5.17 miles tonight on my baby course. Managed my best time of the year on it though, got a fastest  personal time on a Strava segment and my average HR was 16bpm lower than it was for the same course in January :)

Was looking at mine actually, I didn't realise it was such a challenge. Think I am at about 25% at the moment, not helped by the fact I am still on the turbo trainer a lot

Doing 103 in Rutland next week, which has 5000ft of climbing, so I am sure that will help.....
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on April 14, 2016, 12:02:09 PM
From one of my recent rides, an illustration of how GPS tracking robs you of a little bit of recorded distance going round a corner or a curve:

(http://truth.justdied.com/images/robbery.png)

The faster you go, the more distance you'll lose. Some GPS devices will let you set the frequency at which the position is recorded (at the expense of using more storage space if you increase it, and larger files). Of course it's not a substantial amount, even over a 20 mile ride, but it's there.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on April 14, 2016, 12:35:58 PM
Interesting

My distance is measured off my back wheel via a magnet etc. Takes the satellites out of play
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on April 14, 2016, 15:58:28 PM
Yes the magnet method is very accurate if you calibrate the speedo carefully. I have a CatEye on my hybrid, though I'm using GPS all the time at the moment.

Managed to coax 670ft of elevation out of a lunch break run. More later I hope. 14.09 miles; the Truncated Top Brand Run or a version of it, and a run along the A447 toward Ibstock and back. More later if it doesn't rain. 48% of the climbing challenge done so I'm just about on course, but the weather may yet spoil the party.

https://www.strava.com/activities/545156332 (https://www.strava.com/activities/545156332)

222 miles done this month.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on April 14, 2016, 17:25:41 PM
Nice.

Im doing this tonight. I tried to do the 90 minute one last night, but at the 34 minute mark I stood out of the saddle to let out a trump and unfortunately shit myself, which if anyone has done it, makes cycling very difficult.
Mrs M walked into the laundry room just as I was rinsing my brand new Planet X bib shorts under the tap. The smell was frankly appalling, and she just shook her head and walked out.

So, will make up for it with this little interval session tonight, and it is very, very hard!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=euieme3voKg

Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: DavidL on April 14, 2016, 19:17:46 PM
Interesting

My distance is measured off my back wheel via a magnet etc. Takes the satellites out of play
Back wheel? I'm interested - is that so you can use it on the trainer?
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: DavidL on April 14, 2016, 19:18:58 PM
Nice.

Im doing this tonight. I tried to do the 90 minute one last night, but at the 34 minute mark I stood out of the saddle to let out a trump and unfortunately shit myself, which if anyone has done it, makes cycling very difficult.
Mrs M walked into the laundry room just as I was rinsing my brand new Planet X bib shorts under the tap. The smell was frankly appalling, and she just shook her head and walked out.

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on April 14, 2016, 19:50:09 PM
Out after work on a route I made up as I went along to Breedon through Lount and back down Top Brand. I took the hybrid in case it rained, but it didn't. Tomorrow's weather looks a bit grim but I'll be glad of a rest.

8812 feet of elevation to go to meet the ACC and I did 1179 today. So I just need another 8 days of a similar performance out of the remaining 16.

https://www.strava.com/activities/545156332 (https://www.strava.com/activities/545156332)

15.70 miles, 238 this month - quite pleased to have done that in two weeks.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nick on April 14, 2016, 20:01:20 PM
Set off this evening to do a 22 miler to be confronted with newly spread loose chippings, lethal on a roadbike, had to take a detour. The Exmoor Beauty sportive is due along the same stretch in 3 days time, could be very nasty. Just got home as the rains arrived.

https://www.strava.com/activities/545349003
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on April 14, 2016, 20:54:51 PM
Being as I had the afternoon off to swear an oath - not Manowar style - I went out for a 14 mile spin. Wish I hadn't as I've lost my car keys - used to get the bike out of the garage as garage door key was on them. Must have fallen out of my pocket at some point, I retraced most of my route looking for them, but no joy. Worse than that, I'd taken the garmin off so don't know how far I went or now much hillage I went up.

Did manage to set a PB up Tom Lane - fnarr, fnarr - but I do believe I let out a Slimesque whimper when it hit 11%...
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: andyhaines on April 14, 2016, 21:02:38 PM
Nice.

Im doing this tonight. I tried to do the 90 minute one last night, but at the 34 minute mark I stood out of the saddle to let out a trump and unfortunately shit myself, which if anyone has done it, makes cycling very difficult.
Mrs M walked into the laundry room just as I was rinsing my brand new Planet X bib shorts under the tap. The smell was frankly appalling, and she just shook her head and walked out.
;D
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on April 15, 2016, 09:13:12 AM
Back wheel? I'm interested - is that so you can use it on the trainer?

Yep.

And because its just more accurate when out on the road, you don't lose reception etc

Anyway, mission accomplished, managed to do the 40 minute interval session without crapping myself. Its basically minute intervals at about 80% with rests inbetween gradually getting shorter, till towards the end you have a couple at 100% with literally no gaps, then a 90 second 100% sprint.

Its a really efficient way of training

https://www.strava.com/activities/545875822
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nick on April 15, 2016, 20:01:42 PM
Resting up before the Exmoor Beauty on Sunday, having a few drinks tonight and an early night tomorrow. Always seems like a good idea until you're 3/4 way round, aching all over and gasping for air. Just hope I don't do a Jonners and shit myself, the disgrace.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on April 16, 2016, 13:59:40 PM
Just back from the Saturday 25-miler, extended by approaching Swepstone by a notoriously hilly stretch. A nice ride out for the first 18 miles or so, but I faced the Headwind from Hell coming north out of Bosworth and the last few miles were a bit of a struggle. Not sure why. Perhaps because I went out earlier than usual and I'd only had a couple of slices of toast, or perhaps I shouldn't have taken the hilly route to Swepstone. Or maybe I've just overdone it recently. I was quite relieved to arrive back at the garage door.

I took the hybrid because the roads were a bit wet, and I did miss the momentum of the Boardman on the long stretch down to Twycross.

https://www.strava.com/activities/546913954 (https://www.strava.com/activities/546913954)

27.01 miles which takes me to 265 this month, just over my tally for the whole of April 2015. I'm hoping to exceed last year's figures for every month except August (474 miles, but you never know)
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on April 16, 2016, 18:43:57 PM
Not long back from a 39.8 miler. My first venture up to the Peak District moors this year, but using a long winded route via Coal Aston. It involves more climbing, but you get a nice downhill break in the middle. I took all the climbing nice and steady and so doing meant I had the energy to head off and do a couple of laps of the Beeley Triangle and end up with 2,838 of climbing.
Must brush up on my Bird of Prey recognition as I saw a couple on the moors I couldn't place - bigger than sparrowhawk/Kestrel, small than Buzzard - there was also a dead sheep, but that's not unewesual.

https://www.strava.com/activities/547184089
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on April 16, 2016, 21:58:51 PM
Anxious to add a few hundred feet of elevation while it wasn't raining, I went to Heather and back through Ibstock just before dusk.

https://www.strava.com/activities/547379924
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: NeilP on April 16, 2016, 22:39:30 PM
Not long back from a 39.8 miler. My first venture up to the Peak District moors this year, but using a long winded route via Coal Aston. It involves more climbing, but you get a nice downhill break in the middle. I took all the climbing nice and steady and so doing meant I had the energy to head off and do a couple of laps of the Beeley Triangle and end up with 2,838 of climbing.
Must brush up on my Bird of Prey recognition as I saw a couple on the moors I couldn't place - bigger than sparrowhawk/Kestrel, small than Buzzard - there was also a dead sheep, but that's not unewesual.

https://www.strava.com/activities/547184089 (https://www.strava.com/activities/547184089)


Hen Harrier perhaps?
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on April 16, 2016, 22:50:11 PM

Hen Harrier perhaps?
Could possibly have been a female one, they are out and about in the Peak District.
Last year on a similar ride, I'm sure I saw a Montagu's Harrier.

I did definitely see a Meadow Pipit today.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on April 17, 2016, 12:18:51 PM
Lovely day out there, still a bit cold but I wrapped up. I did the Truncated Top Brand, augmented by a bit of hill climbing on the road out of the village. 13.72 miles. Added 186 metres to the Climbing Challenge total (now at 3466 / 66%).

More later, I hope. Wouldn't have been a bad day for the Rutland expedition, but I have a lunch appointment.

Bemused to see a few personal records on Strava on well-travelled segments, as I was mostly trying to take it easy.

https://www.strava.com/activities/547937817
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: DavidL on April 17, 2016, 12:25:36 PM
50 miles this morning. Nice and sunny but still nippy (overnight frost) and still suffered with cold toes and fingertips. Severe aches in both hips made the last 10 miles or so a bit uncomfortable - I'm telling myself it's just lack of hours in the saddle and will improve the more I get out (I'm sure it's not riding position as I've done a couple of 100 mile rides with the same set-up).
Could be age, I suppose!
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nick on April 17, 2016, 14:13:50 PM
Managed The Exmoor Beauty sportive on my own as my riding partner dropped out last night. Very pleased with myself, glorious day on the moor and could see for miles, taking in views of the North Devon coast and Dartmoor and what looked like the rest of the realm as well. 5000 ft climbing and 72 miles which is the furthest I have cycled. Saw plenty of Exmoor ponies as well, exhausted now.

https://www.strava.com/activities/548066985 (https://www.strava.com/activities/548066985)
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on April 17, 2016, 15:19:07 PM
Managed The Exmoor Beauty sportive on my own as my riding partner dropped out last night. Very pleased with myself, glorious day on the moor and could see for miles, taking in views of the North Devon coast and Dartmoor and what looked like the rest of the realm as well. 5000 ft climbing and 72 miles which is the furthest I have cycled. Saw plenty of Exmoor ponies as well, exhausted now.

https://www.strava.com/activities/548066985 (https://www.strava.com/activities/548066985)
Well done that man :)
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on April 17, 2016, 15:20:50 PM
Bemused to see a few personal records on Strava on well-travelled segments, as I was mostly trying to take it easy.

Funny, because I knew I had a lot of climbing to do yesterday, I didn't think I'd get any PRs as I was taking it steady. First Strava segment I get to, I beat my PB by 17 seconds! Think it was the only bit where the headwind was a tailwind.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on April 17, 2016, 18:06:53 PM
Just back from 30.2 miles out on the road with 1,936 feet of climbing. First 20 miles were OK, but the next 10 my legs got particularly Voightian and just wouldn't stop moaning. It was a fresh breeze causing the problems, just when the end was in sight.

Over half way on the Strava April Climbing Challenge, maybe I can get there :)

https://www.strava.com/activities/548408597
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on April 17, 2016, 20:48:00 PM
Earlier in the day I intended to do a hill-climbing enhanced version of the Truncated Top Brand run, then I came up with a better plan to head west through Ashby and explore lesser known roads for a bit, instead. However I absent mindedly set off in the direction of Top Brand. I didn't realise my mistake until I got to Coleorton, but I came back the same way and headed to Ashby once I got to Ashby Rd.

Quite a nice run out, would have been about 17 miles but the initial early-onset-of-dementia diversion added a few. Added a fair bit of elevation too, and I did 998 ft in total.

20.14 miles, 309 done this month and I'm now on 3770 metres in the ACC.

https://www.strava.com/activities/548554766
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on April 18, 2016, 09:34:41 AM
Managed The Exmoor Beauty sportive on my own as my riding partner dropped out last night. Very pleased with myself, glorious day on the moor and could see for miles, taking in views of the North Devon coast and Dartmoor and what looked like the rest of the realm as well. 5000 ft climbing and 72 miles which is the furthest I have cycled. Saw plenty of Exmoor ponies as well, exhausted now.

https://www.strava.com/activities/548066985 (https://www.strava.com/activities/548066985)

Well done indeed, the last 20 miles looks a nice reward for what appears to be a tough middle section.

Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on April 18, 2016, 16:41:23 PM
Set off to do the TTB on a late lunch break but decided to press on for Belton when I got to the left turn for Breedon Lane.

An old bird flagged me down to make conversation on the road out of Belton, just after emerging from the woods on the left. She wanted to tell me how nice the bluebells looked in there, and suggested I go and see for myself. I thanked her and assured her I'd have a good look on my next run through.

16.56 miles. Really feeling a bit knackered after that and won't be doing any more climbing challenges after I complete this one. 1503 metres to go.

https://www.strava.com/activities/549261525 (https://www.strava.com/activities/549261525)
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on April 18, 2016, 17:25:18 PM
Climbing is for racing snakes and anorexics

We gentlemen of the fuller physique show our true prowess on the flat
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on April 18, 2016, 17:46:50 PM
The April Climbing Challenge has naturally provoked an interest in elevation calculations. And I've noticed that the elevation figure reported from my uploaded activities in Strava is different from the elevation from bikehike.co.uk, or even Strava's own route planner.

I assumed that this was due to GPS inaccuracy. So as a test I took a FIT file, converted it to CSV format and wrote a small program to multiply all of the altitude data in the file by 1.5. Having done that I changed the date stamp on the file to an inconspicuous date in 2014 to avoid conflict with its source, converted it back and uploaded to Strava. It uploaded successfully, but the reported elevation was exactly the same.

I must conclude that Strava doesn't use GPS elevation data when reporting elevation. But what does it use then, if it doesn't match the elevation figure from its own route planner?
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: DavidL on April 18, 2016, 19:56:49 PM
Climbing is for racing snakes and anorexics

We gentlemen of the fuller physique show our true prowess on the flat
more like 'The Tashkent Terror' than 'Il Elefantino' then?
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nick on April 18, 2016, 21:09:52 PM
The April Climbing Challenge has naturally provoked an interest in elevation calculations. And I've noticed that the elevation figure reported from my uploaded activities in Strava is different from the elevation from bikehike.co.uk, or even Strava's own route planner.



I must conclude that Strava doesn't use GPS elevation data when reporting elevation. But what does it use then, if it doesn't match the elevation figure from its own route planner?


Does this help? https://support.strava.com/hc/en-us/articles/216919447-Elevation-for-Your-Activity

Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on April 18, 2016, 23:11:06 PM

Does this help? https://support.strava.com/hc/en-us/articles/216919447-Elevation-for-Your-Activity (https://support.strava.com/hc/en-us/articles/216919447-Elevation-for-Your-Activity)
So, basically it's all an approximation.


I was reading that just the other day because two different route planners, Garmin Connect and Strava all gave different elevation values. Garmin Connect gives different values depending on whether your device has a barometric altimeter or not.


I was going to start my "serious" evening rides today, but I think the last weekend was too much too soon...
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on April 18, 2016, 23:20:52 PM
Thanks Nick, I had seen that but it doesn't quite account for the discrepancy.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: NeilP on April 18, 2016, 23:21:29 PM
I suggested it was 'somewhat made up' when Jonners highlighted a strava ride recently that didn't quite add up
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nick on April 19, 2016, 07:24:57 AM
Last week I did an evening ride with a mate, I have a garmin and he used Strava on his phone, same ride yet 229ft difference between the two devices.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on April 19, 2016, 10:17:36 AM
more like 'The Tashkent Terror' than 'Il Elefantino' then?

Another year and I may have similar hair! Look terrible in Pink though
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on April 19, 2016, 14:25:48 PM
Always nice to get a message from the organisers of a sportive like this:-

"Minor route change – Due to a road closure for water mains works at Medbourne one of the best descents in the event has been taken out of the route and replaced with one of the hardest climbs. Happy days! The routes published on the website for gpx download now reflect this"

Great. This could also raise further questions concerning Strava and its apparent disregard for the laws of Physics and Cartography, as they appear to have replaced a downhill section with an uphill section.......
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on April 19, 2016, 15:45:50 PM
I did a version of the lunchtime route that's expanded by taking in Snarestone Road instead of Swepstone road, which runs more or less parallel to it. Must do that more often, it's a really nice, deserted road that meanders pleasantly through farmland with good views.

Bizarrelly, as I approached Newton Burgoland, a wide load escort landrover followed by a diesel train engine car on the back of a huge transporter passed me coming the other way. What this would be doing coming through Burgoland, a sleepy village with roads barely big enough for two cars to pass, I have no idea.

Gorgeous weather out there. I will certainly go out again after work.

Anyway another 13.16 miles, which takes me to 339 done this month. That's the most I've done in any month except for August 2015, and there's still 11 days left.

https://www.strava.com/activities/550184955
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on April 19, 2016, 19:40:32 PM
Just had a lovely evening ride out through Ashby to Moira, down to Measham and back through Packington and Normanton le Heath.  I'd intended to come back the usual way from Packington, along Ashby Road - but I thought the more scenic route was appropriate and changed my mind. Might have robbed myself of a few metres of elevation, but I got plenty. Less than 1100 metres to go, I could do that in the next couple of days.

https://www.strava.com/activities/550464399
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on April 19, 2016, 23:43:22 PM
Decided to enter my first Sportive. Just an 80k one. Might go for the 160k when they have their autumn one.

http://www.cyclederbysportive.co.uk/routes/huub-events-80k/
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on April 19, 2016, 23:58:00 PM
The bottom right part of that route is only 3.5 miles from the north-westerly extreme of the route I did this evening.  I must explore a bit further west, I think it's flatter over there.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on April 20, 2016, 09:30:21 AM
Decided to enter my first Sportive. Just an 80k one. Might go for the 160k when they have their autumn one.

http://www.cyclederbysportive.co.uk/routes/huub-events-80k/

Well done, looks a nice event

The section from Barton Under Needwood to Rosliston is nice, I did that section but in reverse on Sunday for my morning ride, nice rolling countryside. Barton is also very pretty, and you go through Repton later on, one of my favourite places in middle England.

Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on April 20, 2016, 09:43:29 AM
Cyclist takes revenge on motorist:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0lnVoNaf4Y
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on April 20, 2016, 13:58:55 PM
Well done, looks a nice event

The section from Barton Under Needwood to Rosliston is nice, I did that section but in reverse on Sunday for my morning ride, nice rolling countryside. Barton is also very pretty, and you go through Repton later on, one of my favourite places in middle England.

Repton really is a lovely place. Only 10 miles from here; I must sort out a route there and back for a Saturday sometime soon.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on April 20, 2016, 15:52:43 PM
Repton really is a lovely place. Only 10 miles from here; I must sort out a route there and back for a Saturday sometime soon.

Used to play a cricket game there every year, for the Warwickshire Imps against the Repton Pilgrims (old boys team from the school)

The School Pavillion is a beautiful old building, dating back to god knows when, full of merobilia and oak panelling highlighting players from the dim and distant past. Normally you can pop into the ground and watch if you are passing, its worth a look.

But of even more interest are the ruins of the old building which run along the pitch, which survived the dissolution of the monasteries by Henry VIII, and of course the gravestone of CB Fry, possibly my favourite sportsman of all time

http://www.repton.org.uk/history-of-repton



Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on April 20, 2016, 20:20:21 PM
Well done, looks a nice event

The section from Barton Under Needwood to Rosliston is nice, I did that section but in reverse on Sunday for my morning ride, nice rolling countryside. Barton is also very pretty, and you go through Repton later on, one of my favourite places in middle England.


Thought I'd break myself in with something "easy" :)

Only ever been to Hrepetune - Anglo Saxon Good, Modern English Bad - once and I've lived in Derbyshire all my life! Went there for a wedding, got a bit squiffy, fell over the boy as he was crawling round the floor and put my back out...

Did same 7.58 miles as I did last night. Last night set PBs on 5 out of 8 Strava segments, tonight only set PBs on 2, but did it quicker overall. Would have been even quicker if a car hadn't decided to turn left about 20 feet away from a junction, then at the next junction to the right a car pulled out in front of me, then started to drive down the middle of the road as if to say "I saw you". Knob.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on April 20, 2016, 20:39:10 PM
I did an expanded version of the usual lunch break route early in the afternoon, a lovely ride out in warm-ish sunshine:

https://www.strava.com/activities/551353734 (https://www.strava.com/activities/551353734)

Then after work, since it was still very sunny and pleasant I thought I'd treat myself to a run out to Repton and back. By the time I got to Ticknall though, a place I know very well from trips to a pub there when I lived in Derby, I realised I must have missed a turn. Rather than come back the same way I followed a sign to Melbourne and came back that way instead, a route I've done quite a few times.

Despite mostly being unintended this was a glorious ride out and one I will do again for sure. 20.99 miles.

Having analysed the route on Strava after uploading it's clear to see where I went wrong, at Hartshorne. It's one of those where on the map it looks like you keep straight on, but on the road it's actually a left turn. Which I didn't take.

https://www.strava.com/activities/551614274 (https://www.strava.com/activities/551614274)


(http://truth.justdied.com/images/goingtorepton.jpg)

Between Ashby and Hartshorne
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on April 21, 2016, 09:22:13 AM
https://www.strava.com/activities/552096014

Gentle ride around the Royal Town, and also a smaller loop of Sutton Park, favoured hunting grounds of Henry VIII

Back in a bad way at the moment, and didn't feel motivated in any way shape or form, but ground it out, hence no PR's or even 2/3rd all time medals
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on April 21, 2016, 15:53:49 PM
Did the lunchtime run, expanded even further by going right into Measham to give me a bit more elevation climbing out.

Nice out there, blowy coming up to Ashby Rd from Packington though.

https://www.strava.com/activities/552360900 (https://www.strava.com/activities/552360900)

15.28 which takes me to 407 miles this month, only the second time I've done more than 400 and with 9 days to go I think I'll have a crack at 500.

93% done on the climbing challenge so I should complete that tomorrow.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on April 21, 2016, 16:21:32 PM
We've all gone elevation mad! I might start using my garmin at home, must climb the stairs 20 times a day
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on April 21, 2016, 20:05:07 PM
I set off after work in the direction of Ashby without really knowing where I was going to go .. decided it was a bit too cool, windy and cloudy for a long ride out so just busked it for a bit. Turned out to be quite a nice adventure, having no real idea where I was but coming across a nice trail through a wood with a view of a lake. Found a sign to Moira and headed in that direction, knowing I could find my way back from there easily enough. From there back to Ashby and back home the usual way.

Very worringly, Strava announced 'error processing data' when I uploaded the GPS file, but I fixed it using this site:

http://garmin.kiesewetter.nl/

and the fixed version uploaded nicely:

https://www.strava.com/activities/552611152

Today's 1369 ft of upwardness have brought me to the brink of April Climbing Challenge glory - 138 metres to go, which the usual lunchtime run should cover nicely tomorrow.

424 miles done this month.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on April 21, 2016, 20:07:53 PM
I'm 735 miles ahead of my tally this time last year, so looking good for 3000 in 2016 (I did 2700 last year).
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on April 21, 2016, 20:29:21 PM
Don't now how far ahead of last year I am, although a quick look on the laptop tells me that it's 460 miles ahead, being as I've now gone past 500 for the year.

It may only have been over 7.93 miles, but for the first time ever I averaged over 18mph for a ride. Just 2 PBS though, but I am getting closer to the top 10 on a few segments and have gone top 10 on a little used one. Now up to 64% on the climbing challenge. Pity the Cycle Derby Sportive isn't a day earlier, as there's 900m climbing on that.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on April 22, 2016, 09:22:15 AM
Never fear, there will be a may climbing challenge

Im doing ScaFell Pike, so will take my garmin with me for that
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on April 22, 2016, 16:20:20 PM
Did the extended lunchtime route again, quite pleasant out there if a tad blowy approaching Alton Hill.

15.06 miles, 439 this month, 1729 this year. April Climbing Challenge completed, something I honestly thought was highly unlikely when I started it.

https://www.strava.com/activities/553395426 (https://www.strava.com/activities/553395426)
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on April 22, 2016, 16:33:58 PM
Have eaten like a pig today in prep for tomorrow, might need to convert the laundry room into a vomitarium later if I eat anything else.

Weather looking dry, but bloody cold.

The dilemma of choosing what to wear on a cold ride.........

Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on April 22, 2016, 16:58:36 PM
I wear thermal long johns under regular bike leggings and a fleece under a nylon cycling top, works well for me. Nothing fancy.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on April 22, 2016, 17:01:07 PM
By the way a vomitorium wasn't really a place where the Romans threw up after over-indulging. My history teacher taught us that, but years later I discovered that it was a misconception based on the name.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on April 23, 2016, 14:46:04 PM
Went out with the general idea of doing a run out to Melbourne and back. I didn't want to do the usual Saturday route as it involves trudging north for the last 10 miles or so, and there's a rather fresh wind blowing from that direction. But it was a bit too blowy for a long one, so I did a slightly embellished Belton FO8 instead. 16.76 miles. I was followed, deliberately I'm sure, by a huge raincloud hovering above NW Leics like the mothership in Independence Day. It attacked me with a single raindrop every ten minutes or so, but I escaped it eventually.

I took my Mio Cyclo instead of the GPS watch, hoping to be able to synch it with a Windows laptop I bought yesterday. No luck so far. It's a great little unit for recording your distances, speed and all that but the PC software is a bit hopeless and transfers are rather hit and miss.

Anyway, 456 done this month. More later perhaps. Would be good to clock up 500 tomorrow as the weather looks a bit threatening beyond that.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on April 23, 2016, 19:27:10 PM
Went out today with the intention of doing 50 miles, being as I have a 50 mile sportive coming up next weekend. I also plotted a route to take using "Plot a Route" to make sure I'd be able to follow the downloaded sportive route on my Garmin.
Well, I managed 50 miles - 51.99 to be exact - and I followed the route apart from losing it on a couple of occasions as I started to take the route I thought I should take and not what "Plot a Route" had plotted. You have to keep an eye on "Plot a Route" as it sometimes sends you down cycle paths and I didn't enjoy taking a road bike down a gravel  path, even if it is a National Cycle Route.
I managed to average 18.5 mph over the first 36 miles, but that had dropped to 17.3 by the end, thanks to a long drag through the Langwiths and a lot of my last few miles being into the Northerly - and Westerly - breeze.
I didn't expect to set any PBs today - apart from one hill I'd targeted - but got a few, the one on Whittington High Street was a complete surprise, as I'd written that one of being as it came 49 miles into the ride. Watch out Ben Swift and Russ Downing I'm coming for your KOM!

https://www.strava.com/activities/554508808
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on April 24, 2016, 15:23:33 PM
Set off on the road bike in the direction of Bradgate Park, about 10 miles away. In 1990 I lived in Markfield, only a mile or so from there and often used to take the bike in on a Sunday afternoon after I found myself living alone. Bitter memories.

Unfortunately (and unexpectedly) it started raining just after I left there, and I was lashed with cold rain for the next eight miles or so. I intended to come back the way I came, but took a wrong turn at some point. Found my way to Ellistown, then came back through Donington le Heath.

I'd love to know where I went wrong coming back, but haven't so far been able to transfer the route from my Mio to the laptop.

Anyway that's another 23.45 miles, and 479 this month - a new monthly record. The weather looks a bit rubbish over the next few days but I expect I'll push that up to 500 in the next week.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on April 24, 2016, 16:23:31 PM
Assaulted the chain on the road bike with a "smart straw" equipped WD40. It really does blast the rubbish out. I'll relubricate it tomorrow.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on April 24, 2016, 18:25:12 PM
Thought I'd better keep the legs turning over, so I went out for a 21 mile spin last done 5 weeks ago. Managed an average of 17.1 as against 16 mph last time. What a difference a new bike and increased fitness make...
I still don't like going uphill and there are a few short sharp ramps on today's circuit, but I set PBs on most of them, which is what I wanted. Also managed to take 17 seconds off yesterday's time down Whittington High Street, another 47 and the KOM will be mine!
On the minus side, I fell off the bike when I got home, I forgot Mrs S's car was parked in front of mine on the drive and I didn't have time to unclip and brake in time.

https://www.strava.com/activities/555612858

Checked the chain on the hybrid with my new chain checker today. Think I should have changed it a fair while back...
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: döm on April 24, 2016, 18:45:27 PM
2 morning spins with the Wheelers totalling 70kms has taken me passed 1000 for the year and 450 for the month if April.

Best bit was the descent of The Hill of Ward. Pretty exhilarating! The climb seemed much less steep than the descent which was a bonus!

It would probably just seem like a mole hill to some of you but I enjoyed it
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nick on April 24, 2016, 19:46:37 PM
Did a couple of 20 milers this weekend. Decided to try a nasty climb called Three gates hill which is a real gasper but made it and my improved fitness level meant I seemed to recover fairly quickly. On the nature side a small mouse decided to shoot across the road in front of me. Not seen any swallows yet but have heard they arrived a week or so back.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on April 24, 2016, 20:11:33 PM
2 morning spins with the Wheelers totalling 70kms has taken me passed 1000 for the year and 450 for the month if April.
Can you speak English please?

Not seen any swallows yet but have heard they arrived a week or so back.
Saw my first one yesterday.
Saw a Yellowhammer today.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: döm on April 24, 2016, 20:13:46 PM
Can you speak English please?
Saw my first one yesterday.
Saw a Yellowhammer today.

It's English Nick. Just not very good English!
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on April 24, 2016, 21:45:57 PM
It's English Nick. Just not very good English!
Kilometers aren't English! They're an infernal Foreign Plot!!!!!!
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: döm on April 24, 2016, 22:44:47 PM
Kilometers aren't English! They're an infernal Foreign Plot!!!!!!

 Ireland finally did away with the antiquated  imperial system over 10 years ago!
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on April 24, 2016, 22:52:30 PM
Ireland finally did away with the antiquated  imperial system over 10 years ago!
Antiquated my arse - although my arse is antiquated - Imperial measurements come from life.


I'd much rather cycle 50 miles than 80km.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on April 24, 2016, 23:10:38 PM
Well if we're going to get onto this, it's ridiculous that we're maintaining two systems of measurement in the same country; driving three miles to buy three metres of shelving or whatever. It must be obvious that we aren't going to keep both of them forever, and it must also be clear that the imperial measurements are considerably less practical and aren't going to win - why can't we get on with it now?
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on April 24, 2016, 23:19:57 PM
Because we're British and we're bloody minded.. It keeps the mind active too. If I had my way LSD would make a comeback too, great way rto learn about different bases, and will there ever be 100 degrees in a  circle?
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on April 25, 2016, 09:25:30 AM
https://www.strava.com/activities/554604598

Long, lumpy but great fun. Wonderful countryside and chocolate box villages along the way

My riding partner who I split up from early doors had two punctures, a mechanical, and got lost. Had to wait an hour at the end for him and it was starting to get very cold!!!
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on April 25, 2016, 16:06:39 PM
Because we're British and we're bloody minded.. It keeps the mind active too. If I had my way LSD would make a comeback too, great way rto learn about different bases, and will there ever be 100 degrees in a  circle?

Ah yes, 360 degrees - that's an interesting one, based on the ancient Greeks' understanding that the Earth completed an orbit of the Sun every 360 days, and they weren't far out. So every degree represents a day, the circle being a complete orbit. High time it was metricated, as you suggest.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nick on April 25, 2016, 18:14:21 PM
https://www.strava.com/activities/554604598 (https://www.strava.com/activities/554604598)

Long, lumpy but great fun. Wonderful countryside and chocolate box villages along the way

My riding partner who I split up from early doors had two punctures, a mechanical, and got lost. Had to wait an hour at the end for him and it was starting to get very cold!!!

That looked a toughie, don't know why but in my mind i have that part of the UK as fairly flat.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on April 25, 2016, 18:21:13 PM
Ah yes, 360 degrees - that's an interesting one, based on the ancient Greeks' understanding that the Earth completed an orbit of the Sun every 360 days, and they weren't far out. So every degree represents a day, the circle being a complete orbit. High time it was metricated, as you suggest.
OK then Mr Logic, I look forward to the 10 day week, with the 10 hour day.

I'd sooner be 6'2" than 1.88m any day!
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on April 26, 2016, 09:51:54 AM
That looked a toughie, don't know why but in my mind i have that part of the UK as fairly flat.

Can I just confirm that its not!

One of the hills had a 20% segment, which at the time felt like I was trying to cycle up my stairs at home!
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on April 26, 2016, 10:20:36 AM
Yes, it starts to get flat to the right of Peterborough or so.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on April 26, 2016, 11:17:05 AM
Cycled past the home of John Caudwell at one point, a magnificent old Monastery
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on April 26, 2016, 11:38:39 AM
Just dug this out from page 2 of this now mammouth section of the website. Seems a long time ago, but shows the Malvern Mad hatter sportive, and how much fun can be had on them

Nice video of the Malvern Mad Hatter, little bit of Boardman, and yours truly at 2 minutes 56 saying a few words

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQjgFQshUbg
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on April 26, 2016, 14:45:47 PM
Went out and did the usual lunchtime route augmented by some faffing at the end. 12.8 miles. Cold, but bright sunshine except when I was being clattered by hail stones, but that was only a few minutes and not enough to spoil the party.

Hoping to do at least another 7.95 miles later, which will take me over the 500 mile mark for this month. I doubt I'll do that again.

Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nick on April 26, 2016, 19:14:50 PM
Can I just confirm that its not!

One of the hills had a 20% segment, which at the time felt like I was trying to cycle up my stairs at home!
They always look so flat on google streetview.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on April 26, 2016, 20:50:19 PM
After a day off yesterday to let the weekend's efforts bed in, thought I'd better do a bit tonight to keep the legs moving. So, I went out dodging the hail/sleet/snow rain showers for half an hour, doing the princely total of 6.15 miles, slowest ride ever. I did manage to tick off 781 feet towards the Strava 5,500m challenge. All by riding up to the local enterprise park and back down again a few times, then off to set a PB up the Lockoford Lane climb.
'Twas a bit parky though 2.6C, my hands were so cold I could barely brake or change gear.

https://www.strava.com/activities/557592544
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on April 26, 2016, 21:22:57 PM
This time last year I was mostly going out with my legs out and a short sleeve top .. very disappointed with the weather we're having.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on April 26, 2016, 21:47:24 PM
This time last year I was mostly going out with my legs out and a short sleeve top .. very disappointed with the weather we're having.
That's the Beauty of April :)

35 years ago we had 4 inches of snow in Chesterfield.
32 years ago I was in a Blizzard in Matlock Bath.

Then, like you say, last April was about the best month of the year and I was regretting not going out on the bike enough.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on April 27, 2016, 09:24:53 AM
Turbo training last night, intervals for an hour.

Dull

Need 30 more for 2000 miles this year, keeping up my 500 a month average.

Should be able to do that with a couple more commutes, another turbo tonight and maybe even a spin on Friday night, permafrost allowing
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on April 27, 2016, 16:16:09 PM
Went out and did the usual lunchtime circuit, half-expecting to be rained on so I took the hybrid. I did in fact get snowed on after the first 3 miles or so, but only for about 7 minutes. Nice and sunny after that. Baltic though, but I wrapped up warm. Winter has outstayed its welcome a bit.

12.76 which takes me to 505 miles done in April, the first 500+ month I've ever done and possibly the last.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on April 27, 2016, 16:47:13 PM
Interesting to see Shane Sutton getting suspended pending investigation of sexism in the GB team

Apparently he is quite an abrasive character
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on April 27, 2016, 21:55:29 PM
Interesting to see Shane Sutton getting suspended pending investigation of sexism in the GB team[/qupte]
And now he's quit

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Apparently he is quite an abrasive character
Not necessarily a bad thing...

Went out and did a similar thing to last night. I was going to do a couple of seven mile laps of a little circuit I do, but the threatening gloom and lack of bike lights meant staying close to home seemed sensible. Especially as the hail started as soon as I left home.
I set a PB up Paxton Road, a short 0.3 mile stretch of 8% hill, but the last third is flat and the rest is as steep as I'm prepared to do - my old dad says he couldn't even walk up it - which has brought me to within 2% of the April climbing challenge, should finish that off.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on April 28, 2016, 21:19:11 PM

I took my Mio Cyclo instead of the GPS watch, hoping to be able to synch it with a Windows laptop I bought yesterday. No luck so far. It's a great little unit for recording your distances, speed and all that but the PC software is a bit hopeless and transfers are rather hit and miss.


If anyone with a Cyclo 100 should happen to read this, perhaps courtesy of Google, try the Magellan Desktop PC Tool instead of the awful CycloAgent software. It works! Just managed to upload the ride I did on Sunday.

http://www.magellansupport.com.au/Magellan%20FAQs/TOP%20FAQs/CYC11___670.htm

https://www.strava.com/activities/559467095

Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: pdw1 on April 28, 2016, 22:51:06 PM
Interesting to see Shane Sutton getting suspended pending investigation of sexism in the GB team

Apparently he is quite an abrasive character

I thought this article by Nicole Cooke was very interesting
http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2016/apr/25/nicole-cooke-cycling-sexism-jess-varnish-shane-sutton

I think he would have got away with it if he had stuck to slagging off the women.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on April 29, 2016, 21:46:43 PM
If there were no sexism and discrimination in sport, then the women would have to put down their bairns, get off their fat backsides and compete alongside the men.

Women: Put up and shut up :) Oh, if only they would do the latter...
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on April 30, 2016, 11:51:10 AM
Had my free bike service today :) Although I suspect they just stick it in a corner for a bit and then bring it back to you. That's all set for tomorrow then, once I've got another 134m of climbing in.
I also managed to average over 30 on a flat half mile today, I didn't even think I was putting that much effort in, and it was a side wind not a following wind too.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on April 30, 2016, 14:05:30 PM
Went out on a version of the Saturday route, shortened by omitting the Sheepy Magna section and with an earlier start than usual, hoping to get back home before the rain. Very pleasant though still a bit cold. As I turned north out of Bosworth I could see the foul weather blowing in from the west though the Sun was still shining brightly where I was so I put my foot down a bit, and by the time I got to Ibstock the conditions were very gloomy. A minute or two later it did start to rain, but I was only three miles from home.

Gave the bike the usual seeing to with GT85 on my return to the garage.

528 this month and that's it for April, most probably. I hope May's weather is a bit less unpredictable.

https://www.strava.com/activities/560835015
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on April 30, 2016, 19:58:13 PM
Popped up to my old dad's this lunchtime for some bacon sandwiches - and to make a start on getting my mum's investments transferred over to him now we have probate - and now I have a Strava premium membership (3 months free after buying a Garmin 520)it flagged up that one of my Strava segments was approaching, so I floored it and moved up to 12th out of 528, taking 15 seconds off over a mile. Result.
I don't know if it was a wise move, but I took the Hybrid out this afternoon to check out the new chain I'd put on. It was just a steady run out along the local canal towpath and disused railway line to Rother Valley Country Park. It threw it down for the first couple of miles, the paths were puddled up and nearer Rother Valley I was cycling through quagmires. The paths at Rother valley itself were all covered in coloured powder, as if there'd been an explosion in a paintball factory. The result of all this was an extremely caked up bike and the cycling clothing I intended to wear tomorrow was rendered akin to the skin of a Papuan Mud man. I thought Mrs S would kill me, but she cheerfully popped it all in the washer - I think she's just glad that I'm out tomorrow.

Oh, I met the April climbing challenge too. Just. That's the way to do it. Just hitting it on the last day makes it look like that the challenge was just challenging enough :)
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on May 01, 2016, 13:24:15 PM
To Markfield through Bagworth, and back through Copt Oak. Confident that I'd be back before the rain turned up, I took the road bike. But I did get rained on for the last three miles. Starting to take this weather personally and a bit annoyed to be spending my spare time repelling moisture from a road bike in the garage two days in a row.

Anyway the May campaign is off to a decent 16.28 mile start, and I'm aiming for 320 this month.

https://www.strava.com/activities/561927023
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on May 01, 2016, 16:07:46 PM
Did my first ever Sportive today, the Cycle Derby Spring Classic 80k - That's 50 miles in real money. Must say it was rather a nice ride out, the steepest bit of climbing was out of the way early on, there was headwind after Tutbury though which made things harder than I'd have liked, I don't like pedalling hard to go downhill, but that meant that there was a tail wind on good sections of the return leg, which was nice as after Repton my legs started to wilt a bit. A caffeine gel perked me up for the last eight miles which had a few drags to get up.
I set myself a target of averaging 17.1 mph (The 0.1? I don't know...) and I ended up with 17.2, I feel now that maybe I should have aimed for 17.5 as I never really pushed myself, but then that might have ended up being too much. Who can say.
I didn't enjoy being passed by a fat tattooed bloke on a bike like mine somewhere after the feed stop at Rosliston, traffic lights and roundabouts meant that he was able to get well away from me, but my constant tempo riding reeled him in about 2 miles from the end.
I managed to show myself up at a one lane bridge at Walton on Trent, it was traffic light controlled and I pulled up to stop on a red light, unclipped my left foot and promptly clipped it back in again resulting in the obligatory slo-mo fall, much to the amusement of the Land Rover driver behind me. Ho-hum.

https://www.strava.com/activities/561956818 (https://www.strava.com/activities/561956818)

I know Sportives aren't a race, but I thought I'd check out how my time compared to others: I was 57th fastest out of 435 :)
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on May 02, 2016, 13:49:23 PM
I went to Belton and back, a version of the usual figure of eight, except that I went through Coleorton both ways. Took the hybrid in case of rain (it didn't).

Had to battle the Headwind from Hell for every yard on the way back. You know you're in trouble when you're in the granny gear on a near-level stretch of road, or when you have to fight to stop the wind blowing you backwards up a hill.  But on the way out I broke a personal record despite being on the hybrid and not trying! For the same reason, of course.

Saw the excellent Andrew Bridgen, my local MP in his 4x4 at the top end of Top Brand.

https://www.strava.com/activities/562986706

16.15 miles. 32 done this month, 1393 this year.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: andyhaines on May 02, 2016, 16:03:29 PM
Did my first ever Sportive today, the Cycle Derby Spring Classic 80k - That's 50 miles in real money.
Good effort Nick.


Managed my first 100 mile ride on Saturday. Cycled from Gosport to Christchurch in Dorset, via the New Forest. Some energy gels, Goji berries and a pint of Amstel in Christchurch seemed to sustain me. Weather was unpredictable...glorious sunshine one moment, torrential rain the next, but always unseasonably cold. When I got home Strava said I'd done 99.5 miles, so I jumped back on the bike and cycled round the block a few times to round it up to 101 miles. Didn't feel too bad Saturday night, but feeling a bit washed out today. Oh, and my nuts and willy are still a bit numb. :P
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on May 02, 2016, 18:53:16 PM
Good effort Nick.
Thanks Andy!

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managed my first 100 mile ride on Saturday.
Well done that man :)
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When I got home Strava said I'd done 99.5 miles, so I jumped back on the bike and cycled round the block a few times to round it up to 101 miles
The sign of a true cyclist ;)

I thought I'd better get out and do a bit today, just to keep the legs moving over. I waited until the afternoon rain band had passed over and for the wind to die down a bit.
I had been hoping to average 18mph over 25 miles for the first time, which was on at half way, as I was at 17.4 average with some good downhill bits on the way home. Unfortunately the downhill bits were all into a headwind so I ended up at 17.7, the rain showers didn't help either.

Looking at the ride on Strava I set lots of PBs on segments on the way out, but only picked up a few second and third best times on the way back.

https://www.strava.com/activities/563252453
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on May 03, 2016, 10:37:58 AM
Did my first ever Sportive today, the Cycle Derby Spring Classic 80k - That's 50 miles in real money. Must say it was rather a nice ride out, the steepest bit of climbing was out of the way early on, there was headwind after Tutbury though which made things harder than I'd have liked, I don't like pedalling hard to go downhill, but that meant that there was a tail wind on good sections of the return leg, which was nice as after Repton my legs started to wilt a bit. A caffeine gel perked me up for the last eight miles which had a few drags to get up.
I set myself a target of averaging 17.1 mph (The 0.1? I don't know...) and I ended up with 17.2, I feel now that maybe I should have aimed for 17.5 as I never really pushed myself, but then that might have ended up being too much. Who can say.
I didn't enjoy being passed by a fat tattooed bloke on a bike like mine somewhere after the feed stop at Rosliston, traffic lights and roundabouts meant that he was able to get well away from me, but my constant tempo riding reeled him in about 2 miles from the end.
I managed to show myself up at a one lane bridge at Walton on Trent, it was traffic light controlled and I pulled up to stop on a red light, unclipped my left foot and promptly clipped it back in again resulting in the obligatory slo-mo fall, much to the amusement of the Land Rover driver behind me. Ho-hum.

https://www.strava.com/activities/561956818 (https://www.strava.com/activities/561956818)

I know Sportives aren't a race, but I thought I'd check out how my time compared to others: I was 57th fastest out of 435 :)

That bridge is a funny one. if its the one I think it has a footpath to the right of it as well which you can sneak down

Well done, glad you enjoyed it
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on May 03, 2016, 17:02:14 PM
Felt a bit listless and low on energy today for some reason and nearly didn't bother, but the guilt of wasting a dry lunchtime won the day and I did an extended version of the usual lunchtime Heather - Swepstone - Measham - Packington route. 13.29. 46 this month.

https://www.strava.com/activities/564097304

The weather should warm up a bit later in the week.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on May 03, 2016, 17:39:40 PM
Have we all signed up for our May climbing and gran fondo awards on Strava?
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on May 03, 2016, 19:37:42 PM
I'm definitely not doing the climbing one again. I might have a crack at the Gran Fondo, perhaps ticking Lincolnshire and Rutland off the neighbouring counties list on the same day. Depends if we get a good weather day when I'm not supposed to be oncall or working.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on May 03, 2016, 20:25:39 PM
Have we all signed up for our May climbing and gran fondo awards on Strava?
Yes :)

I've had a day off today, despite the fine evening. It may have been over three days, but a 100+ miles is a lot for my old legs. I felt fine this morning, but my right hamstring has tightened up during the day.

Contemplating doing this as my next Sportive:
http://sportivehq.com/events-overview/sportive-hq-events/flat-n-fast-100-sportive/
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on May 04, 2016, 09:20:30 AM
That looks a decent run

I was about to book the Tour de Cambridge sportive on closed roads in Cambridge, its very flat and very fast, they used it last year as a qualifier for the amateur world champs

But Im am in Majorca instead....
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on May 04, 2016, 15:42:51 PM
I did a much shortened version of the lunchtime route that cuts across to Packington directly from Heather. Nice road that, must try to incorporate it into a longer route.

Very nice out there, but blowy for the first half. My tanlines are starting to return.

https://www.strava.com/activities/565130415

9.02 miles, 55 done this month.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on May 04, 2016, 15:53:31 PM
Shorts!

Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on May 04, 2016, 20:10:40 PM
And the shorts were given a run out after work as well .. another short one as I had an engagement at 7pm. I set off in the direction of Heather without knowing exactly what I was going to do, but fashioned a route through Heather and Odstone and back up through Ibstock. 65 done this month. Still warm out there, still blowy though.

https://www.strava.com/activities/565342593
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on May 04, 2016, 21:53:55 PM
About time I invested in some decent warm weather cycling gear. My arse was sweating like Iguassu falls tonight.
I had intended doing a couple of my 7.5 mile circuits, but said sweaty arse and yet another new set of roadworks curtailed it to 12.3.
Nearly got my head taken off by a tractor coming out of a farm track, I saw the tractor, but only just saw in time the spiked machinery attached to the front of it.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on May 04, 2016, 22:02:53 PM
While I was pedalling down Top Brand on Sunday I noticed about 25 old tractors in a field to my right. I briefly supposed that this was a tractor show, but each of the tractors was ploughing a carefully marked out rectangle in the field. In the middle of all this was a group of four or five people sitting on on camping chairs, pouring hot drinks from a Thermos.

Half a mile further down the road I saw a sign marked "PLOUGHING CONTEST".  Must have been a lovely afternoon out.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nick on May 05, 2016, 20:44:12 PM
Great couple of 20m rides this week, great weather and views. My legs feel so much stronger than a couple of months ago and I seem to be able to coax that bit more out of them when needed. Shorts were out this week as was the sort sleeved jersey.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on May 05, 2016, 21:59:41 PM
The evenings are light enough for me to do my 14 mile circuit now, which I completed in a minute and a half less than last time I did it a month and a half back, that was with an extra half mile put in to avoid roadworks too! First time I've averaged over 18mph on a 10+ mile ride as well :)

I set out intending to beat three of my PBs on Strava segments and I actually achieved it, taking 17s off one segment which is only 0.3 of a mile long, my plan to stay on the big chain ring as long as possible worked tonight as there was no blasted headwind!

Stopped the arse sweating too much by wearing an old short-sleeved top (from 1994...) but still wearing the bib tights as my old cycling shorts would probably crumble away now...

https://www.strava.com/activities/566617862
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on May 05, 2016, 23:17:53 PM
Shame to waste a lovely evening, but I had other things to do unfortunately. I did go out and soak up the summery weather at lunchtime. The usual route, extended but only slightly due to pressure of work. 11.73, 76 done this month, 1436 this year.

https://www.strava.com/activities/566755506

Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on May 06, 2016, 21:01:41 PM
Decided to pedal into Coalville and do an urban route for a change, but stupidly picked the particular time guaranteed to choke the roads with traffic. I'd had enough by the time I got back, but hadn't really done a decent shift distance-wise, so dutifully cycled most of the way to Ibstock and back to top up the miles a bit. 11.83 miles.

https://www.strava.com/activities/567596768

After work I went out on the usual lunchtime route. I caned it on the first stretch up to Heather assuming there'd be some segment dedicated to Heather Lane, but there isn't. Actually now I think about it, it's probably because the route misses off the first 100 metres or so of Heather Lane. Anyway having got to Heather rather quickly, and having realised that I'd forgotten to bring the oncall phone with me I thought I'd put a spurt on and see if I could beat my (elapsed time)  record for that run. And I did, by over a minute (although the "moving time" was four seconds slower). Made it round in 44 mins, 31 secs. 11.48 miles.

https://www.strava.com/activities/567596768

All of which takes me to 99.55 miles this month.

Just noticed that tomorrow's weather forecast has worsened considerably over the last few hours. I may have to do a shorter run than usual.


Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on May 07, 2016, 14:03:40 PM
Beautiful day out there. I planned an extension to the Saturday 25-miler that would extend it to 30 miles. A very nice run out in the sunshine and the extended bit turned out to be delightfully quiet, rural and scenic. As I approached Bosworth on the way back up, I thought I'd try a detour via Carlton which I'd noticed on the map but never tried, and that turned out to be very nice as well. I'll keep that one as a permanent fixture.

Sadly by the time I got to Heather I realised that I'd be home on about 28 miles. Looking at the uploaded route now I can see that I took an unintended short cut just below Sheepy Parva, and the Carlton detour chipped a bit of distance off as well. So I turned left to Packington from Heather and came back along Ashby Road. The prospect of facing Alton Hill after 31 miles didn't exactly thrill me, but it wasn't that bad.

32.7 miles.  I tried an SiS gel after 15 miles and found it a bit icky. But I guess that and the cold mocha that I consumed must have helped. It was more a sore bum than worn out legs that made me glad when the garage door loomed into view.

https://www.strava.com/activities/568245419 (https://www.strava.com/activities/568245419)

Very nearly half-way to my 3000 mile 2016 target .. 1492 done.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nick on May 07, 2016, 16:46:50 PM
22 miles breaking 8 personal bests in what felt like scorching weather, also indulged in a SIS gel as I could feel the body needed a bit of extra fuel. Got home and had a Cadbury ice cream with a flake, and sat out in the garden trying to get some energy back for a beer and Streetfood fest tonight.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on May 07, 2016, 17:53:22 PM
I tried an SiS gel after 15 miles and found it a bit icky.
I've tried all sorts of SiS gels and have settled on the Apple and Berry with Caffeine ones as the ones that I can get on with, even though the apple one is the same consistency as my snot. I also take a Clif bar with me on longer rides as a bit of solid food helps. I tried a Hi5 tropical caffeine gel today - freebie from last week - but that was too runny.

Today I set out with the intention of getting some serious hill work done, but I don't know whether last Sunday's 50 miles is still making the legs feel a bit heavy - possibly - or whether the change to warm humid weather got to me - probably - made me feel a bit lethargic, but it was a struggle going uphill. I felt like giving up on the first long drag, but persevered. Then on the drag from Dronfield to Owler Bar I stopped half way up and pondered whether to turn round, but again I persevered. What I didn't do was drop down to Hathersage and return to Chesterfield via Baslow. The heat just seemed more intense going uphill, so I rode along to get to my highest ever elevation on a bike - 1,237 feet - and returned home. Probably a good call, as it started raining as I got home, and the Met Office radar seems to show Thunderstorms heading this way.

https://www.strava.com/activities/568535529
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on May 07, 2016, 18:19:01 PM
I've started a Rush Fans Strava club if anyone's interested - let me know as I've made it invite-only to keep out riff-raff. Everyone here welcome of course.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on May 08, 2016, 12:29:59 PM
Glorious out there. Just did a run out to Breedon Lane along Top Brand and back along Ashby Road. Very strange not to be fighting a headwind along Ashby Road; for once the wind was offering a bit of assistance by blowing in a leftward direction. Only 12.72 miles, but I'm going out to lunch in 30 mins. However that takes me past  halfway to target, 1506 miles this year.

More later I hope.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on May 08, 2016, 17:39:43 PM
Did a run along to Ashby, past Willesley Wood then back through Measham, Packington, Heather. Still very warm out there.

Felt like I'd done 20 miles, not 14.86, when I got back. Perhaps it's the heat, or the bottle of Newcastle Brown I had at lunchtime (hadn't had a drink since the beginning of March, maybe I'm just not used to it!)

My tan lines are back with a vengeance.

Today's routes:

https://www.strava.com/activities/569739433

https://www.strava.com/activities/569741442

Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on May 08, 2016, 18:35:33 PM
After feeling a bit despondent after yesterday's uphill struggles, I did think about not bothering with a ride today, but as Mrs S says, you can't expect to get better every time you go out.
So, out I went, into what was a hotter day than yesterday, but with a stonger Easterly breeze, a breeze I seemed to be constantly riding into, not a day for many PBs then, in fact climbing Mastin Moor hill was a personal worst, sun on your back, wind in your face and sweat dripping into your eyes isn't conducive to fast times. Then again I was supposed to be using this as a recovery ride, keeping in the low Heart Rate zones. I didn't manage it. Even heading away from the Peak District doesn't eliminate hills, the Magnesian Limestone dip slope makes lots of draggy hills.
I did manage some PBs on the way back and I'm edging closer to the Pro's time on Whittington High Street :)

https://www.strava.com/activities/569786674
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: döm on May 08, 2016, 23:26:47 PM
Funny morning here in Trim. One moment you thought it was going to rain, and the next it felt like the dun was going to break Though. Neither happened in the end and it wasn't until   after the cycle that the sun broke through. Went with the Trim Wheelers and I thought we were going to go up the Hill of Tars but we just cycled around it which was a little disappointing. The Wheelers tend to move along at a very leisurely pace and I would push myself a fair bit harder if  I was going solo.  Still it was a fun 30k.

Check out my 32.8 km Ride on Strava: https://www.strava.com/activities/569354415

(my first recorded ride on Strava - has anyone gone premium and is it worth it?)
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on May 08, 2016, 23:52:10 PM
I've gone premium, but only because I got three months free with my new Garmin.
Is it worth it? Probably not. I like the Heat Maps, I thought that being able to see segment results by age would put me further up the rankings, turns out most Strava users are in my age range...
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on May 09, 2016, 10:10:30 AM
Cant walk after Scafell pike at the weekend (the descent ruined my dodgy knees) so may have a couple of little recovery rides this week, but not much more

Will have a look at the Rush fans thing on Strava ( as long as its pre 1989 obviously)
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on May 09, 2016, 16:11:48 PM
Went out in glorious weather on the expanded version of the lunch break route. 13.16 miles. Annoyingly windy on the way back. I had to fight it for a couple of miles and got blown sideways slightly at one point.

https://www.strava.com/activities/570578355

And that's it until Wednesday. Got a meeting in Southampton tomorrow.

173 miles this month.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: andyhaines on May 09, 2016, 20:13:16 PM
Signed up for my first organised Sportive - The 100 mile Tour of the Meon Valley - in a couple weeks. Got mixed feeling really... I usually like riding alone as I can just go where I like. Also, the start time is 07.30 on a Sunday morning. It's about an 8 mile ride for me to get there, so I'll probably need to leave the house about 06.30 to get there in plenty of time to get organised. And no doubt it'll piss down.


Not looking at setting a blistering pace either as my mate's wife is joining us for the first 25 miles. It is for charidee though.  :)
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: döm on May 09, 2016, 20:36:36 PM
I've gone premium, but only because I got three months free with my new Garmin.
Is it worth it? Probably not. I like the Heat Maps, I thought that being able to see segment results by age would put me further up the rankings, turns out most Strava users are in my age range...

Thanks I'll stick with free for now then.

Longer commute than normal today as I was training in Navan.  Trim to Navan is normally quite quick but the wind was quite strong and it felt like it was in my face and pushing me back the whole time.  I left later than I wanted to and the treacle like journey made me 5 minutes late. I actually wanted to get there early so I could have recovered before it started.  As it was I walked into the training room pretty flustered despite the change of clothes and the application of wet wipes.

I used my lateness to give a presentation on the 1.5m passing distance and how a bit of politeness wouldn't go amiss on the roads!

Slim - would like to join your Strava group if poss!
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on May 10, 2016, 10:18:21 AM
Hmmmm....

Carbon bike serviced today (once a year)
new Bottom bracket, break pads front and back, chain and cassette

£183 including work

Bugger!
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on May 10, 2016, 12:00:50 PM
Doing this in 2 weeks

Still time to enter gents, it looks amazing, and the organisation that has gone into it is fabulous!

http://www.velothon-wales.co.uk/fileadmin/redaktion_velothon_wales/Documents/Competitor_Information_Guide_2016_V3__hi-res_.pdf

Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on May 11, 2016, 17:38:03 PM
Thanks I'll stick with free for now then.

Longer commute than normal today as I was training in Navan.  Trim to Navan is normally quite quick but the wind was quite strong and it felt like it was in my face and pushing me back the whole time.  I left later than I wanted to and the treacle like journey made me 5 minutes late. I actually wanted to get there early so I could have recovered before it started.  As it was I walked into the training room pretty flustered despite the change of clothes and the application of wet wipes.

I used my lateness to give a presentation on the 1.5m passing distance and how a bit of politeness wouldn't go amiss on the roads!

Slim - would like to join your Strava group if poss!

Of course Dom! Just you and me so far though. Will sort it out. I might make it open to all (ie non-invite)
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on May 11, 2016, 17:51:28 PM
eh? Pretty sure I asked to join, certainly did on Strava
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nick on May 11, 2016, 18:42:03 PM
Doing this in 2 weeks

Still time to enter gents, it looks amazing, and the organisation that has gone into it is fabulous!

http://www.velothon-wales.co.uk/fileadmin/redaktion_velothon_wales/Documents/Competitor_Information_Guide_2016_V3__hi-res_.pdf (http://www.velothon-wales.co.uk/fileadmin/redaktion_velothon_wales/Documents/Competitor_Information_Guide_2016_V3__hi-res_.pdf)


You have noticed that ruddy great hill? ;)
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on May 11, 2016, 18:54:15 PM
eh? Pretty sure I asked to join, certainly did on Strava

Oh sorry Jon, I haven't checked properly obviously. Thanks for the prod.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on May 11, 2016, 20:53:01 PM
Of course Dom! Just you and me so far though. Will sort it out. I might make it open to all (ie non-invite)
I thought - well I know - that I'm a member too...

Well, it was a bit gloomy tonight, but as I hadn't been on the bike for three days, I thought I'd better go out. I just did my 7.5 mile loop - at 18 mph - then did some "climbing" work, being as the next Cycle Derby Sportive is a hilly one. Up and down a hill in the local park six times. This was 5 miles at 12 mph. Still, it did give me another 1,000 feet of climbing towards the Everest Challenge. Disappointingly, I'm still well short of base camp, heck I'm not even at Namche Bazaar yet :(


https://www.strava.com/activities/572927422
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on May 11, 2016, 23:46:49 PM
Found this pic of me finishing the Cycle Derby Sportive. My Giant Twin is behind me.

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7111/26352727053_9706c9cd73_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/G9GBCZ)IMG_8858 (https://flic.kr/p/G9GBCZ) by cyclederbysportive (https://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclederbysportive/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on May 12, 2016, 09:10:21 AM
Looking good Simmers!

Is it me, or is the guy behind you enormous! His legs look huge
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on May 12, 2016, 09:47:47 AM
He was a big guy! He came by me after the second feed station and just kept getting further and further away from me, even though I didn't want a big bloke on a bike like mine pulling away from me, but I reeled him back in again in the hillier ground towards the finish. Constant tempo, that's the way :)
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on May 12, 2016, 09:52:28 AM

You have noticed that ruddy great hill? ;)

2 of them!

The Tumble which is long and fairly steep, then Caerphilly mountain which is shorter and steeper.

Luckily they both come at the end of the ride.....
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on May 12, 2016, 16:17:33 PM
I did an expanded lunch break route, 13.29 miles. Glorious weather but aggressively breezy in parts in the final half.


https://www.strava.com/activities/573691566
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on May 12, 2016, 19:13:30 PM
Set off intending to do 20 miles or so, but found that the enduring blowiness was annoying me too much - so I did the shortest version of the lunchtime route with the short cut to Packington, in reverse. However I felt a touch guilty to be bringing the bike home with a single figure mile tally, so I went up Heather Lane and back down for a bit.

10.72 miles. Still very nice out there but cooler.

https://www.strava.com/activities/573861047

197 done this month.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on May 12, 2016, 22:02:40 PM
Being as my Summer cycling kit arrived today, I thought I'd better christen it before the cold Northerlies set in again. It certainly was much cooler than last night's winter kit, but the fresh NE breeze might have been a factor too. I hate the wind, at least you know hills are going to test you, but the wind is just so offputting when it knocks back your speed on the flat by a good 5mph and like eyes on a painting it always seems to follow you around no matter what direction it should be coming from.
On the plus side, I did set a couple of PBs on uphill sections, not by much - that wind you know - but it's still good to get better uphill, and the long drag of the Col de Handleys didn't make me whimper like it did on Saturday.

I'm now up through Namche Bazaar on the way to the summit of Everest :)

https://www.strava.com/activities/574015245

Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on May 13, 2016, 10:09:26 AM
I could hear the wind blowing round the house when I woke up this morning. Cooler today as well. A northerly wind is forecast for tomorrow which is a shame, as I'd planned to try a further-expanded version of the Saturday route. I don't mind facing a headwind on the first half of the circuit but it's a bugger on the way back. All of my routes involve climbing in the latter part, a penalty for living on high ground. Combined with a headwind it's a double whammy I can do without.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on May 13, 2016, 10:39:11 AM
Carbon bike back from its makeover

Treated it to my 2.9 mile commute to work, felt very nice indeed

Must do some riding though this weekend, have the Velothon next Sunday, and the last thing I need is to be caught up by the pro riders!
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on May 13, 2016, 15:05:25 PM
I did the Truncated Top Brand route. Came back along Top Brand rather than Ashby Road, to avoid fighting the wind. A bit aggressive again. A lot cooler today as well.

12.22, which takes me to 209 this month, 1569 this year. Perhaps I can get the yearly total up to 1600 this weekend.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: döm on May 14, 2016, 12:43:08 PM
As soon as I hit enter on Strava I realised I should have called this morning's spin "Through the fields of early May - just".

What a glorious morning to go for a spin with the Trim Wheelers.  It was leisurely but all the better to admire the
 Meath countryside looking at its best.

Check out my 34.5 km Ride on Strava: https://www.strava.com/activities/575502721
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on May 14, 2016, 16:39:07 PM
Went and did a measly 12.28 miles, a bit rubbish for a Saturday, but I'd spent the previous 90 minutes putting new tyres on. What a faff. Wasn't sure I'd done it properly - there always seems to be about 2 inches more inner tube than tyre - but it looks like I did.

The old Zaffiros that came with the Boardman probably had a bit of life in them but I'd had the Michelins for a while and I had a couple of hours to spare. I will go out later as well, probably.

In other news, I scored three pairs of Boardman cycling socks from Halfords for £6. Must admit I'd been wearing pretty ordinary cotton socks until now. These ones are predominantly white, which seems a mistake.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nick on May 14, 2016, 17:23:15 PM
23 miles today, certainly felt some sun on my face. Mid Devon now in full explosive leaf, the cow parsley is beginning to grow which means visibility on the country lanes becomes obscured. Took to the patio to recover in the sun.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on May 14, 2016, 20:47:58 PM
Decided to go for the Strava May Gran Fondo today and got it!

Did a modified version of the Clumber Rumbler I did three weeks ago, then it was cold and cloudy with rain threatening, today it was cool and sunny, what a difference three weeks makes! The only things threatening today were the suicidal pheasants - unfortunately not peasants - in Clumber Park and elsewhere. I also had a Jay fly across the road in front of me and in Norton the Larks were ascending. The weirdest thing I saw today was a bloke out on a Tricycle. Looked like a racing one too, low down and narrow wheels.
To stretch it from 52 to 72 miles I sort of did two laps of the Clumber park section then back through Ault Hucknall, all very pleasant, hard to believe it was a huge coal mining area 30 years ago.
Even though Nottinghamshire is quite flat I still got in over 3,000 feet of climbing to take me over half way up Everest and I did my fastest ever 40km in 1 hour fifteen minutes and at two hours and 42 minutes my fastest 50 miles :)

https://www.strava.com/activities/575987169
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: döm on May 14, 2016, 21:20:01 PM
Nick. That's some serious biking. Sure you don't have one of those little motors in your bike?
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on May 14, 2016, 21:25:43 PM
I wish Dom. I wish...

It's good to know I can do it, I'm thinking of doing a 100 miles in a few weeks time, on what is almost a flat course.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on May 15, 2016, 09:54:23 AM
I was quite proud of myself for doing 32 last weekend, but you've put me to shame, Nick. I must try and do a 45 soon and maybe work up to a Gran Fondo. That said the Rutland trip I'm planning is over 60 miles, but I'm planning to take at least an hour off in the middle, or possibly two long breaks after 20 and 40 miles.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: döm on May 15, 2016, 14:24:02 PM
So the Trim Wheelers decided we had enough in our legs to tackle the Hill of Tara. I'm afraid compared to the terrain available to you lot in the East Midlands, Meath really is "Mon Plat Pays" and except for its North Western borders Tara is pretty much all we have. We choose the ascent with the gentler incline and there were only a couple of lung demanding sections. Great to have done it though and the coffee stop on top felt like a welcome prize. Another great day and it's weekends like this where cycling feels really special!

Check out my 43.6 km Ride on Strava: https://www.strava.com/activities/576692309
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nick on May 15, 2016, 14:33:03 PM
Same route as yesterday, lovely out there again. Still struggling a bit with arse ache, must try a couple of rides at a casual pace and take in the views, too often I push myself and end up not appreciating the marvellous countryside around here. Need to buy a new short sleeve top as the zip broke when I took it off.


https://www.strava.com/activities/576745012

Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on May 15, 2016, 16:46:13 PM
I'm in Rutland. Got lost so took 45 miles to get here. 30 miles back, wish me luck!
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: döm on May 15, 2016, 17:13:40 PM
I'm in Rutland. Got lost so took 45 miles to get here. 30 miles back, wish me luck!

Safe journey home!
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on May 15, 2016, 18:29:06 PM
The legs weren't so sure that they wanted to go out again today, but I promised them that it would be a go steady day. It was a go steady day, but I'm quite surprised by the number of PBs I set, mostly on downhill sections and the lack of wind was a big help today. :)
I did one of my regular rides, it's a figure of eight one, but very much like the sort of shape a deflated inner tube might make. Last time around I had wanted to average 18mph on it, but failed due to headwinds. Today, on a take it steady day I managed it - just - comparing the 2 rides I was slower for the first 15 miles today, but on the last 10 with no headwind I pulled it all back and more, and that was with having to slow down because a Horse drawn caravan was dawdling down the road, I expect there's a Gypsy fatwa out on me now as I rode by shouting "P-P-P-P-P-PIKEY POWER!"
I do take the time to take in the scenery, the view over to Hardwick Hall - more glass than wall - as you come down from Hardstoft is stunning. I could do without all the fields of Rape though, it brings on my late onset hay fever and my nose has been streaming industrial quantities of snot...

https://www.strava.com/activities/577120474
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on May 15, 2016, 20:36:02 PM
I'm back and god, I feel tired. But the journey back wasn't as bad as I thought. I didn't take a break of any substantial duration because I wanted to get back while it was light.

Where I went wrong on the way out was to keep going past Tilton on the Hill when I should have turned left. It looks like you keep along the same road on the map, but actually it's a left turn. I realised a couple of miles further on that I'd gone wrong. But after a lot of doubling back and indecision I saw a sign to Oakham and followed that. That actually took me back to the turn I missed, which is when I realised what I'd done. I'd tried Google Maps a couple of times, but couldn't get a broadband signal. I arrived at the Rutland border on 44.5 miles instead of 30, slightly apprehensive that I'd used up too much daylight and energy.

I'd been having a glorious time pedalling along at a nice pace in the sunshine until I realised I was lost and felt I could ride all day. But getting lost dented my spirits somewhat, after which I started to feel a touch tired and never quite recovered. I was very happy to know I was back on the planned route, though. Anyway I'm not unhappy about it now, as it means I've completed the May Gran Fondo.

I wore a fleece under my top for the first 20 miles but started to feel too warm, so removed it and stuffed it in my backpack. I didn't need it again after that. I'll leave it at home next time in similar conditions if I do a long ride.

I brought a pair of light slip-on trainers in my backpack, and never used them. I'd intended to put them on for walking round a shop or a pub, but the only stop of any appreciable length that I did was the Co-op at Rothley, and I just clogged round with my cleats on.

I consumed a flapjack, a cold mocha coffee in a plastic bottle, a can of Red Bull and a Snickers bar. I took a gel as well, but didn't use it. Like the Pot Noodles in that episode of Red Dwarf, it was the absolute last resort. Just too gloopy.

77.2 miles done, tired but contented. Pleased to have ticked another of the neighbouring counties off the to-do list. And very nice to know I can do 77 miles without taking an hour off as I'd intended.

(http://truth.justdied.com/images/boardman_at_rutland.jpg)

The actual border is marked by a stream that flows under the road a few metres further on. You can't see them in the pic but there's a set of railings each side of the road that form the sides of a sort of implied bridge. I dutifully pedalled over it a few moments after I took this, then turned for home.

https://www.strava.com/activities/577258861 (https://www.strava.com/activities/577258861)

Northamptonshire and Lincolnshire, I'm coming to get you.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: döm on May 15, 2016, 21:43:07 PM
Well done Slim! 


Its the An Post tour of Meath at the end of July.  Last year I did the 50km route and I'm seriously considering doing the 100km  this year.  That is a pretty hilly route


https://www.strava.com/routes/4424205
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on May 15, 2016, 21:49:38 PM
Get in there Dom. That which doesn't kill us only makes us stronger :)
Although I'll stick to the 50 miles in the Cycle Derby Sportive in September. The 100 miles has over 9,000 feet of climbing, from Derby up to Edale and back.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on May 16, 2016, 09:45:25 AM
Doing some serious miles gents, Chapeaux!

Did this yesterday, speed seemed OK although a couple of windy bits, in prep for the Velothon Wales this Saturday

https://www.strava.com/activities/576522125#kudos

Europsort are showing highlights of the Rutland CiCLE Classic, which is the route the Pro's did in Rutland the day after I did my long one over there, its a fascinating watch if you can get it, and looks brutal
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on May 16, 2016, 16:08:48 PM
I did the regular version of the lunchtime route, wondering if my legs might complain after yesterday's high-mileage mayhem, but it was painless. Actually yesterday my legs felt like they had miles left in them even at the end, it was sore feet and all-over fatigue that was starting to get to me after 70 miles or so.

https://www.strava.com/activities/578016546

11.49. Nice out there. That takes me to 311 this month, 1671 this year.

Really looking forward to doing another long run out. Planning a route to Northamptonshire and back. But I'll set off earlier, have a proper rest stop and avoid drinking San Miguel the night before next time.

Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on May 16, 2016, 17:13:57 PM
I did the regular version of the lunchtime route, wondering if my legs might complain after yesterday's high-mileage mayhem, but it was painless. Actually yesterday my legs felt like they had miles left in them even at the end, it was sore feet and all-over fatigue that was starting to get to me after 70 miles or so.

https://www.strava.com/activities/578016546

11.49. Nice out there. That takes me to 311 this month, 1671 this year.

Really looking forward to doing another long run out. Planning a route to Northamptonshire and back. But I'll set off earlier, have a proper rest stop and avoid drinking San Miguel the night before next time.

Think you should get yourself signed up for a sportive James, they are great fun, and its not all about doing 100 miles and beating the clock, there is a tremendously social side to them as well
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on May 16, 2016, 20:36:26 PM
Well, despite it being a nice evening, I stayed off the bike tonight. The old legs feel a bit weak and feeble. I think, looking at the way he cycles that Slim has the right idea to take it steady. I'm the world's least competitive person - except with myself, I just have to keep trying to do things faster. Saturday I was supposed to be taking things steady, but when I saw I was averaging over 18mph I had to try and get it up to 19, despite knowing I had the drag up from Langwith to Scarcliffe to come. I even went and set my best time up there giving it some Froome style low gear/high cadence work.
Anyhow, I took the chance to give the chain a clean and lube tonight. Couldn't believe the amount of muck that came off it!

Think you should get yourself signed up for a sportive James, they are great fun, and its not all about doing 100 miles and beating the clock,
No, it's about doing 50 miles as quickly as you possibly cam ;)

Quote
there is a tremendously social side to them as well
As a tremendously anti-social person, I can't say as that bothered me at all. However, it was nice to get out and ride with other people for a change.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on May 16, 2016, 21:03:10 PM
Must admit I've wondered about Sportives .. what do they actually provide? Refreshment stops and people to point out the appropriate turns on the route? Puncture repairs?
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on May 16, 2016, 21:49:52 PM
I've only done one, but a 50 mile sportive provided 2 refreshment stops, the route was well signposted and there were supposedly mechanics out on course. I didn't see any, but one bloke saw someone having a wheel replaced.
You got a medal at the end too - and soup and cob.

Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on May 17, 2016, 09:25:14 AM
Just seen the weather report for Saturday and Sunday.

I will now be riding in the Wetothon Wales 2016.

Bugger
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on May 17, 2016, 10:25:52 AM
That's the other thing about doing a Sportive .. I don't really fancy cycling in the rain and you aren't guaranteed the weather.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on May 17, 2016, 10:57:32 AM
Maybe join a local club then

http://www.cyclinguk.org/

Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on May 17, 2016, 13:36:07 PM
What are the advantages? Advice on bike maintenance / training from more experienced riders?
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on May 17, 2016, 13:43:11 PM
There is that, new routes, bit of company now and again, just a bit more social riding really

personally I prefer to ride by myself, I can go at my own pace and I like the solitude, but each to their own
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on May 17, 2016, 16:24:55 PM
Did the usual lunchtime run, 11.55

https://www.strava.com/activities/579040079

.. which takes me to a pleasing 322 miles this month. If the weather stayed like this I could probably get that up to 500.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on May 17, 2016, 21:51:05 PM
For some reason, I've signed up for a Strava training plan for short hill climbs. Tonight was supposed to be an hours Endurance Ride, taking it about 7/10 of full effort at a 85-95 cadence. I managed the cadence bit more or less. I think I put too much effort in, as I beat a big number of hill segment times. Or perhaps it was because the roadworks have disappeared. Perhaps it was because the wind has turned 180 degrees from last week.Who can say.
It was a bit gloomy too, with rain setting in at the highest point. Nearly reached Everest Base Camp though :)

https://www.strava.com/activities/579375974
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on May 18, 2016, 09:20:13 AM
Did an odd one last night, Kids and Mrs M were at some sort of thing, so on my way home took a detour and ended up doing a Forrest Gump!

https://www.strava.com/activities/579462285#kudos

Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on May 18, 2016, 14:05:34 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxQ_sdoy1Oo


Oh dear......
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: andyhaines on May 18, 2016, 18:59:25 PM
Supposed to be doing 100+ miles on Sunday, but if the weather is anything like today (and the forecast is not good....strong winds and rain), I might take my mountain bike.   :-\

Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nick on May 18, 2016, 20:02:18 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxQ_sdoy1Oo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxQ_sdoy1Oo)


Oh dear......


Should have time for a blood transfusion before the weekend.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on May 18, 2016, 21:50:57 PM
I was supposed to be out doing some Power Intervals tonight. I managed the intervals...

On the way home from work it was rain all the way until two miles from home when there was a sudden demarcation in the road from wet to dry, this slowly inched it's way towards Slikk Towers. When I set off from home there were just odd spots of rain, by the time I'd climbed the first hill it was throwing it down. Back down the hill it dried off, this set the tone for the night. I tried to do some power intervals, but rain on my glasses and rain on the Garmin meant I couldn't read my HR or cadence, so I just did several repeats of a hill in the park. I've now gone through base camp and am climbing the Khumbu Icefall :)
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on May 19, 2016, 09:03:25 AM
all getting very technical Simmers
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on May 19, 2016, 16:28:51 PM
Had a quick run out toward Belton through Coleorton and back through Swannington. A bit blowy, but quite warm. It's raining now so I'm glad to have beaten the weather.

I turned left at Osgathorpe to come back through Thringstone, but I noticed a "loose chippings" sign. A lot of roads round here have been resurfaced with sharp, grey gravel that seems just to have been spread around loose; stuck down only by gravity. Saves money I suppose. Having just put new tyres on the road bike last week I didn't really fancy it so I turned back round and continued the usual way.

https://www.strava.com/activities/581152573

12.04, 334 done this month. Looking at the forecast I might get out at lunchtime tomorrow but the weekend looks a write-off.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on May 19, 2016, 16:37:55 PM
Resurfacing a road that way cant be a viable option. I went through one near Rosliston (sp) last week which had literally been down for seconds, no signs, I left a massive scar in the surface, nearly came off, and my bike was splattered in tar and gravel

Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on May 19, 2016, 19:17:48 PM
all getting very technical Simmers
I think it's the Asperger in me...

The council in Derbyshire seem to love resurfacing roads in tar and grit. Last summer I had to change route nearly every night because new bits had been done. It ends up like trying to cycle on marbles >:( I noticed tonight, that one of the main roads into Chesterfield had signs warning of imminent tar spraying, all on a bit of road which has had random 20 yard stretches newly resurfaced with tarmac - with none of the bits that really need doing being touched. I despair.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on May 19, 2016, 21:53:40 PM
Being as the weather was inclement again, although the rain had stopped by 19:30, I went out and repeated last night's ride: a couple of runs to Chesterfield and back, then seven times up the hill in the local park. Tonight was done on the Hybrid though, to stop the road bike getting slormed up.
Turns out it's slower on the Hybrid. Wasn't surprised, it's heavier and the nine speed cassette isn't as agreeable as an eleven speed. Surprisingly though it did a shorter distance and managed to ascend a greater height.

Still, that extra height has got me over the top of the Khumbu Icefall and past Camp I :)
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on May 20, 2016, 09:52:58 AM
No riding now til sunday (apart from my tiny little commute)

Fresh legs for Sunday at the Velothon. 7:48 start from Pen T, which opens at 7:10 for the 580 riders I am with. 18,000 cyclists in total, unbelievable numbers.
 Fantastic levels of organisation gone into it, although the local MP is having a whinge saying pubs and shops will suffer.
The organisers reckon that is brings in about £2m of revenue, people like me staying in hotels, eating out, buying souveniers etc,

Hopefully means we will be round well before the pro's in their Tour Race though.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: döm on May 20, 2016, 10:07:39 AM
Good luck Jonners - that climb looks vicious !
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on May 20, 2016, 13:51:38 PM
which one? The Tumble is steep, and long, about 23 minutes worth, whereas Caerphilly mountain is shorter but almost vertical in parts!

Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: döm on May 20, 2016, 16:24:05 PM
which one? The Tumble is steep, and long, about 23 minutes worth, whereas Caerphilly mountain is shorter but almost vertical in parts!


All the above !
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on May 20, 2016, 16:46:06 PM
Did the usual lunchtime route. Slightly dismayed to find that a short stretch of that one is now liberally covered in loose gravel as well, but I think I can revise the route to avoid it.

I took the hybrid, as much for a change as because glowering rain clouds were circling. But it stayed dry. Quite warm too.

https://www.strava.com/activities/582141188

11.49, which gives me a 2016 total of 1706 miles. Should hit 2000 comfortably before the end of June. Maybe even 2112.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on May 20, 2016, 21:43:59 PM
which one? The Tumble is steep, and long, about 23 minutes worth, whereas Caerphilly mountain is shorter but almost vertical in parts!
Good luck Jonners, although I'm sure you won't need it, you're bound to be considerably fitter than the rest of us - because you're a whippersnapper!
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on May 21, 2016, 18:18:25 PM
I was going to go out into the Peak District today, but the weather forecast was decidedly dodgy and the rainfall radar showed an endless stream of rain out to the West of Chesterfield, so I decided to just do some random riding round North East Derbyshire.
The outward journey was into a blustery wind, which was no fun and no PBs on any segments on the way out. Then I reached the most westerly point of my ride at about the furthest point from home it started raining. Oh joy.
A left turn then took me away from the rain and put the wind behind me. That's better :) Time to pick up some PBs, which I duly did, going Top 10 on a couple of segments.

Does anyone else suffer from car drivers who come by and then brake? Up Tibby High Street I could hear a car behind me revving its engine, it came by then braked because there was a speed bump in the road and the car was a Scooby with lowered suspension. Prat. He caused me grief again further up Tibby High Street, there was a set of traffic lights on red, when they turned green he set off, I clipped in and set off and bugger me if he didn't slow for a speed bump again, I had to brake sharpish so as not to hit the car in front and try and unclip at the same time, I very nearly toppled, but just got out in time. Ho-hum.

Today takes me above Camp 2 on Everest, very nearly 75% of the way up :)

https://www.strava.com/activities/583313270
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on May 22, 2016, 17:48:57 PM
Rather nice weather here today until late afternoon, and unfortunately due to patio-cleaning and balcony ironwork-painting activities, I left it a bit late. By 4pm or so I hope I might get an hour or so in before the rain turned up so I set off on the lunchtime route, expanded leftwards to avoid the gravel trap along Swepstone Rd. But in fact it started raining very lightly three seconds after I set off. I hoped it might stop so kept going, but the rain became heavier and I got rained on most of the way round. Five minutes before I arrived back it seemed to have dried up nicely though, so I set off up Heather Lane and back for a few miles to add on at the end.

https://www.strava.com/activities/584580268

I think I shall call this well-pedalled route and its variations the Packington Pentagon.

15.86, 1722 done this year, 361 this month.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on May 22, 2016, 21:55:54 PM
I went out and did today what I intended doing yesterday. And, if I'd done yesterday what I'd done today I wouldn't have done today what I did yesterday.
That wasn't the longest ride I've done, but it was the hardest, with over 4,000 feet of climbing. The first half of which was into an increasingly strong headwind as I ascended the Moors of Derbyshire, as I crested one hill I was pedalling to stand still. My legs were regretting it. I knew then that after the descent to Hathersage I'd have a good long ride down the Derwent Valley, but what seems flat when you're out in a car isn't. There were lots of little steep ramps up, cattle grids in Chatsworth Park and lots of sheep in the road in Chatsworth park too. Daft blighters.
The climb out of Matlock was almost a step too far after doing 41 miles, it seemed to be endless, thankfully it wasn't. Then it was back onto roads where yesterday I was setting record times, today a bit of a hill I did in a minute yesterday was a minute and thirty three today, very nearly my slowest time.
Still, the weather was good - apart from a few spots of rain at the furthest point from home - and it was good to see a lot of other cyclists on the road after seeing nobody yesterday.

https://www.strava.com/activities/584657375
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: DavidL on May 22, 2016, 23:43:08 PM
42 miles this morning in fair weather with little wind. Average speed - 18.5mph.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on May 23, 2016, 09:43:07 AM
Velothon was great

14,000 cyclists, closed roads, crowds, hills, sprints, climbs, a Pro race afterwards etc

A must gentlemen

did the 87.5 miles averaging 18.3

Unfortunately, My Garmin edge 800 records, but will now not connect to a PC. Messages about USB being in the Wrong Port, XM receiver not being supported, and something else.

Forums seem to indicate it means the female/male connection thing on the USB has had it/corroded etc. Seems to be a common occurrence

Bugger
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on May 23, 2016, 11:07:44 AM
How do you put pics on here these days?
I have a pic on Instagram from yesterday, but cant link it from there
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on May 23, 2016, 11:43:31 AM
I don't think Instagram supports direct access to images, but you can always post the Instagram link :)

On the Garmin problem, you might be able to use a Smartphone app if it supports wireless transfers (ie ANT+). As long as your phone supports that as well of course. Failing that, did it come with a little wireless dongle?
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on May 23, 2016, 12:03:26 PM
https://www.instagram.com/p/BFvuq1aJ4Fj/?taken-by=jonmillergolf1971

Afraid not for the wireless stuff, mine is the 800, would need the 810 for all that! Bugger

Going to try and dry it out, hairdryer etc, rice, then maybe a blast of WD40

The various forums and google posts seem to indicate its FUBAR though
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: andyhaines on May 23, 2016, 12:34:38 PM
Velothon was great

14,000 cyclists, closed roads, crowds, hills, sprints, climbs, a Pro race afterwards etc

A must gentlemen

did the 87.5 miles averaging 18.3

Great effort, Jonners!
 
I did 125 miles yesterday, which is the furthest I've ever ridden in one go, with nearly 6500ft of climbing. (The sportive itself was only 103 miles, but what with cycling to the start and cycling home afterwards, Strava had me down as doing 124.9 miles)
Pace was rather pathetic, but I was riding with a mate who struggled, especially over the last 30 miles or so. First time I've done a sportive, and whilst it was fun, I found having to constantly adjust my pace to that of others a bit frustrating. Best part was finding some new routes through the country lanes of Hampshire...and dropping some guy on a Pinarello Dogma on one of the climbs! Although, I then had to stop at the top to wait for my mate.  :P
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on May 23, 2016, 12:40:24 PM
Top work Hainers, that's a good shift.

many many people ride a Pinarello who would be better advised spending the money on a gastric band!
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: andyhaines on May 23, 2016, 12:47:35 PM
Top work Hainers, that's a good shift.

many many people ride a Pinarello who would be better advised spending the money on a gastric band!

Very true. I was behind a guy in my LBS the other day (I think he was buying some new wheels), and I looked down and he had a Bianchi Specialissima...probably around £8K of bike. He looked in his mid-50s, with grey hair and a bit of a pot belly...and I wondered why on Earth you would need a bike that a pro would use for one of the Grand Tours?! True, it was a beautiful bike, and I guess if he's got the money then he can spend it on what he likes, but it just seemed a bit of  a waste.  :-\
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on May 23, 2016, 12:53:14 PM
Well, I was discussing this yesterday at the Velothon, and if its something a person loves, then let them do it. Not everyone who buys a Ferrari can drive like Lewis Hamilton

I have never owned or ridden a great bike, I imagine they are very nice to ride.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on May 23, 2016, 13:43:22 PM
You fecking beauty!


15 minutes under the hand dryer at work, then a trip to Halfords where the kind man sprayed it with some spray for cleaning electrical contacts, followed by ten or twenty times pushing the USB in and out.

And, it works!!!!!!

BEAUTY!!!!!
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on May 23, 2016, 14:38:37 PM
w00t!

My cheap and cheerful Garmin Forerunner 10 was used to record my lunchtime outing for future generations.

I did the Expanded Packington Pentagon, 13.15 miles. Nice out there, wish I'd had had more time. About 1.5 miles longer than the original version of that route, but I got round in less than an hour.

https://www.strava.com/activities/585376916 (https://www.strava.com/activities/585376916)

375 done this month.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on May 23, 2016, 15:22:11 PM
https://www.strava.com/activities/585342120#kudos

So here it is, the first climb, the Tumble was hard work, I think my Garmin was beginning to play up at that point, as it has me scaling a vertical precipice at one point.
Now, while it was steep, its wasn't that steep...

And, as per usual, Strava has stolen  0.1 off my average pace when the data was transferred.

The first 30 or so miles were done at an absolutely frightening pace, all 20mph and above, but it genuinely didn't feel like it, all down to the effects of a peloton, having people in front, around and behind you. you genuinely felt like you were being sucked along, physically and mentally.

People cheering on the climbs was a great experience, there was no way I was going to fall off or climb off in front of a crowd.

And, like Hainers, I got genuine pleasure passing people on the climbs, especially the fellers who had gone tearing past on the flat sections where little or no effort was required.

A great day.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: DavidL on May 23, 2016, 19:27:25 PM

many many people ride a Pinarello who would be better advised spending the money on a gastric band!
my thoughts exactly  ;D
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on May 23, 2016, 20:27:39 PM
https://www.strava.com/activities/585342120#kudos
People cheering on the climbs was a great experience, there was no way I was going to fall off or climb off in front of a crowd.
I think I'd fall off, I usually do when there's a crowd...

Quote
And, like Hainers, I got genuine pleasure passing people on the climbs, especially the fellers who had gone tearing past on the flat sections where little or no effort was required.
I hate climbing, I consider myself to be a useless climber, but having done a Sportive I passed more people going uphill than on the flat - where they then came by me again.
The idea of the Velothon appeals, the thought of the Tumble doesn't, I found doing a climb of 576 feet over 2.4 miles enough for me yesterday, the Tumble's twice as steep. Good to see that you were only 12 minutes slower than the likes of Michal Kwiatkowski though Jonners!
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on May 24, 2016, 09:24:34 AM
Yes, thanks for bringing that up! I looked at the average speeds of the pros and nearly cried, although the fact they are at 12 and 13 mph says a lot.

Im not a climber, at nearly 14 stone and tall I am built for the other side of the hill, but my fitness is improving, and the dog in me wont ever give up.

The velothon is very good Simmers, there are others similar to it, like the Tour of Cambridge, and the London one. The tour of Cambridge is used for a qualifier for the Amateur World Champs normally, at different age groups. I am planning to do it next year, as I will be in the 45-55 age group but at the bottom end, so would stand a decent chance of qualifying.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on May 24, 2016, 14:01:43 PM
The weather forecast is telling me I might be on for a run out to Lincolnshire at the weekend .. about 65 miles. I'd thought of combining it with Northamptonshire in the same trip but that takes it up to ~100 unfortunately. 65 will do for now.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on May 24, 2016, 14:28:05 PM
65 is a good old ride.

100 is a proper milestone, no matter what pace you do it at. Lots of time in the saddle and lots of miles
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on May 24, 2016, 16:55:52 PM
Very much looking forward to it .. I've planned a route that's not too complicated but doesn't consist simply of a couple of long stretches along A roads.

Cycled into the office at Castle Donington this afternoon, first time I've done that for quite a few months, and the first time on the road bike.  10.58 miles. I usually take a different way back. It's mostly uphill on the way back whichever way I go, unfortunately. I won't go far on the way back though as I'll be hauling a laptop in a backpack. However I see I've now done 385.19 miles this month, so I'll get that up to 400 at least.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on May 24, 2016, 19:49:20 PM
Back from the office, 15.04 miles. A few threatening dark clouds roamed overhead, but no rain. 400 done this month.

https://www.strava.com/activities/586719050

https://www.strava.com/activities/586719053

Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nick on May 24, 2016, 21:10:38 PM
Back out tonight after a week away from the bike. 19 miles over Rackenford Moor with 9 huge wind turbines for company. Views across to Exmoor were great , the headwind not so.

https://www.strava.com/activities/586701477
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on May 24, 2016, 21:53:24 PM
Went out for an hour after tea, on my usual hour after tea ride, with a slightly different way home, a nice 17.5 miles - bar the headwind. I thought last year was a windy year, but this year has been as bad with a lot of the winds being Northerly and Easterly instead of the more usual South West to West. Last Tuesday there actually was a SW wind and I set PBs on segments where I got nowhere near today, even though it felt as if I was climbing better.
The bike's been making funny noises when I pedal hard downhill, the negative side of me says "Bottom Bracket Failure" but it goes when I slow down or used the small chain ring. I suspect it could be bottle cages rattling with my positive head.

Anyhow, I'm on Supplementary Oxygen now, as I'm over 8,000m up Everest :)

https://www.strava.com/activities/586824710
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on May 24, 2016, 23:07:00 PM
The tour of Cambridge is used for a qualifier for the Amateur World Champs normally, at different age groups. I am planning to do it next year, as I will be in the 45-55 age group but at the bottom end, so would stand a decent chance of qualifying.
I'll leave it a couple of years until I'm 55 then...
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on May 25, 2016, 09:38:36 AM
Few official photos from the weekend. Another chance to spend money....

http://www.marathon-photos.com/scripts/photo.py?template=MPX2&event=Sports/CPUK/2016/Velothon%20Wales&photo=VVVH6579&bib=7059

Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: andyhaines on May 25, 2016, 11:15:01 AM
Went out for an hour after tea, on my usual hour after tea ride, with a slightly different way home, a nice 17.5 miles - bar the headwind. I thought last year was a windy year, but this year has been as bad with a lot of the winds being Northerly and Easterly instead of the more usual South West to West. Last Tuesday there actually was a SW wind and I set PBs on segments where I got nowhere near today, even though it felt as if I was climbing better.
The bike's been making funny noises when I pedal hard downhill, the negative side of me says "Bottom Bracket Failure" but it goes when I slow down or used the small chain ring. I suspect it could be bottle cages rattling with my positive head.

It might be your front derailleur. I had a similar thing happen when I was in the highest gear on the big ring, but at no other times... it was just the chain rubbing against the mech. A slight adjustment to the cable tension sorted it.  :)
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on May 25, 2016, 11:54:41 AM
Never ride big cog at the front with big cog at the back, and small cog at the front with small at the back

Will always cause chain rub
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on May 25, 2016, 12:42:49 PM

It might be your front derailleur. I had a similar thing happen when I was in the highest gear on the big ring, but at no other times... it was just the chain rubbing against the mech. A slight adjustment to the cable tension sorted it.  :)
The thought had crossed my mind. It's only on big front, small rear when I'm going downhill on bumpy roads. On smooth roads it doesn't happen, well not as much, I think it happens if I really go for it on the flat.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on May 25, 2016, 12:51:27 PM
Sounds like chain rub then without a doubt
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on May 25, 2016, 13:14:45 PM
I found this useful for adjusting a front derailleur:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxV_vKlgolc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxV_vKlgolc)
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on May 25, 2016, 20:35:49 PM
Sounds like chain rub then without a doubt
Because it's raining I've been reading up on things, seems as if Shimano shifters have a trimming mechanism to deal with this sort of thing. Perhaps I inadvertently make use of it which is why I don't always get a noise. We'll see before I start to make any other adjustments. Once I start making small adjustments things tend to end up like the car in Father Ted...
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on May 25, 2016, 21:48:50 PM
My front Disraeli has a trim setting, but I rarely make use of it - the trick is to avoid the inappropriate gear combinations.

However - for the big front, small rear combination where you're getting the noise, the trim shouldn't make a difference anyway. A bike stand is very helpful for this sort of thing so you can have a close look while the rear wheel can spin free and investigate what the chain is doing through the various gears.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on May 25, 2016, 21:50:14 PM
Got my new Summer cycling top today:

(http://www.wigglestatic.com/product-media/5360108900/dhb-Blok-Short-Sleeve-Jersey-Prism-Short-Sleeve-Jerseys-Blue-Yellow-SS16-TW0287-12.jpg?w=430&h=430&a=7)

And matching bib shorts:

(http://www.wigglestatic.com/product-media/5360108892/dhb-Blok-Bib-Shorts-Prism-Lycra-Cycling-Shorts-Black-FL-Yellow-SS16-TW0301-16.jpg?w=430&h=430&a=7)
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on May 25, 2016, 21:54:09 PM
However - for the big front, small rear combination where you're getting the noise, the trim shouldn't make a difference anyway.
The Shimano instructions - when you find them - suggest otherwise. I'll see what happens next time I'm going down the hill it always seems to happen on.
Perhaps I'm just pushing the bike beyond its limits...
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on May 26, 2016, 09:30:46 AM
I get a bit of rub on Big front/small back

Its just one of those things. Not too bothered to be honest. I like the Kit Simmers, DHB (wiggle's own brand) is very decent

I went out last night, in my Dark Side of the Moon shirt, and did this little spin. Quite chilly, and surprisingly windy at times:-

https://www.strava.com/activities/587996141#kudos

Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Straight Shooter on May 26, 2016, 12:33:34 PM
Perhaps I'm just pushing the bike beyond its limits...
:D
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nick on May 26, 2016, 13:47:03 PM
Got my new Summer cycling top today:

(http://www.wigglestatic.com/product-media/5360108900/dhb-Blok-Short-Sleeve-Jersey-Prism-Short-Sleeve-Jerseys-Blue-Yellow-SS16-TW0287-12.jpg?w=430&h=430&a=7)

And matching bib shorts:

(http://www.wigglestatic.com/product-media/5360108892/dhb-Blok-Bib-Shorts-Prism-Lycra-Cycling-Shorts-Black-FL-Yellow-SS16-TW0301-16.jpg?w=430&h=430&a=7)

How very strange i purchased the same earlier this week. Team TNMS.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on May 26, 2016, 13:58:22 PM
Must be a Nick thing...
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on May 26, 2016, 14:28:36 PM
Getting in touch with your feminine sides, nice to see.

This arrived yesterday, very nice it is too. Just ordered a black/yellow one as well.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B004INVKDG/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on May 26, 2016, 15:18:58 PM
Amazing value for money that!
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on May 26, 2016, 20:32:59 PM
I did a variation on the Truncated Top Brand on a late lunch break. Cloudy out there, and a bit windy. But pleasant enough.

https://www.strava.com/activities/589000017

13.05, 413 this month. Should get that up to 500 before June kicks off, with a bank holiday on Monday - especially if I do the Lincolnshire run.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on May 26, 2016, 20:55:37 PM
Getting in touch with your feminine sides, nice to see.
You should see it in pink Sweetie!  :-*
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on May 26, 2016, 21:54:10 PM
Well, the new kit acts like go faster stripes :)
A lack of wind - apart from the merest southerly Zephyr - may have helped too. It was a bit gloomy though, I managed to get the chain rub going, but it's only on Big Front/Small Back if I'm striving for a bit extra on a downhill, or if I'm climbing uphill, but who goes uphill in that gear? So I'll live with it.

Think I'm 96% of the way up Everest now, barring avalanches, I should reach the summit soon :)

https://www.strava.com/activities/589050258
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on May 27, 2016, 09:11:17 AM
something nice about new kit, whatever sport you play
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on May 27, 2016, 11:11:20 AM
I had a bit of a windfall recently and am thinking about a new bike .. there's nothing wrong with the Boardman exactly but I do spend a lot of time in the saddle so it seems to makes sense to optimise the experience. And anyway if I didn't buy a new bike I'd only spend it on a watch or a guitar, and I have too many of both of those.

I'd keep my present roadie for winter riding, probably. I find myself wanting to use the hybrid less and less, only really if there's a risk of rain. I must say though, it's been a brilliantly reliable bike. From the day I wheeled it out of Halfords I haven't need to make a single adjustment, it just works.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on May 27, 2016, 11:26:01 AM
Oooohhh!!

What have you got in mind?
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on May 27, 2016, 16:26:19 PM
:)

Don't know yet .. still thinking about it. It would be a road bike, but something comfortable enough for long rides.

Anyway - lovely out there. Did the Packington Pentagon (mildly augmented version), 13.36 miles. I went out in short sleeves and shorts as a trial run for tomorrow (similar weather expected and I want to do Lincolnshire and back). I was warm enough but I might take a long sleeved top in the backpack just in case. Lovely out there today.

https://www.strava.com/activities/589753555

427 this month, 1787 done this year.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on May 27, 2016, 21:50:03 PM
Don't know yet .. still thinking about it. It would be a road bike, but something comfortable enough for long rides.
How about something nice in Titanium?

https://www.boardmanbikes.com/gb_en/products/308-ti-9.2.html

If I had a decent windfall I think I'd go for it.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on May 28, 2016, 08:08:39 AM
mmm nice but my windfall wasn't quite decent enough, unfortunately.

Off to Lincolnshire in half an hour or so, the route I've settled on finally is about 70 miles there and back. I'm better prepared this time; have downloaded offline maps to the phone and rehearsed the road junctions on Google Street View. I didn't hoover San Miguels last night. And I'm setting off a few hours earlier. I have a light headwind on the way there, but I'm coming back the same way so it's all good.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on May 28, 2016, 12:44:08 PM
Hello from Sunny Lincolnshire! In fact I did take a wrong turn on the way but only cost myself two miles. Here in 36.72.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on May 28, 2016, 17:55:36 PM
Back about an hour ago. Absolutely cracking day out. It did get off to a slightly iffy start though, as I realised after about half a mile that I'd forgotten my bike lock. I dutifully returned to the garage to pick it up. But then I forgot to restart the GPS until a mile after the restart, thereby robbing myself of slightly more than a mile of distance recording.

This in turn buggered up my precise directions, and I took a right turn too early just after Copt Oak. When I realised I'd gone wrong I stopped to consult Google Maps and found my way to the planned route easily enough, albeit having added a couple of unnecessary miles. After this it was plain sailing, through Woodhouse Eaves, Quorn, Barrow upon Soar and then along a long, gently meandering and pleasingly level road that took me all the way to the turn off for Belvoir Castle, and the border with Lincolnshire - marked by the bridge shown below. No 'Welcome to Lincolnshire' sign, sadly.

(http://truth.justdied.com/images/lincs_border.jpg)

I pedalled over the bridge and into the village for a few minutes, then headed back to Belvoir Castle where I stopped for lunch at the visitor centre.

Apart from the long climb through Woodhouse Eaves on the way back - four merciless miles of pedalling uphill - this was a breeze. Will plan a 100 mile trip in the next few weeks.

72.4 done, 499 this month.

https://www.strava.com/activities/590921783





Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on May 28, 2016, 19:13:06 PM
Well I've not been to Lincolnshire today, but, if I'd set off when I intended to I would have cycled the extra couple of miles to Dunham Bridge to cross the mighty river Trent into Lincolnshire. I do have a trip to Lincoln planned at some point, so it will happen.
I had a trip round North Notts to investigate the hill that is coming my way in next Saturday's Flat and Fast 100 mile sportive. There's a Strava segment called "Two and a Half miles of Hurt" for it, I'd nearly finished the climb before I realised that I must have been doing it! I now rank 88 out of 638 on it :)
I was ready to give up coming back through Clumber Park though, I think some sort of pollen was affecting me and my right nostril was streaming, so now I've got slug tracks all over my new shorts :(
Nice day for a ride, but I saw very few other cyclists on the road, I think they all head out to the Peak District when the weather's nice. It was 68.9 miles at just under an 18 mph average.

https://www.strava.com/activities/591043698

And that's Everest climbed too :)
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on May 28, 2016, 19:51:33 PM
Nice one, Nick.

I did see quite a few other bikes out on the road today, and no less than three times when I stopped for a map check or a gulp of mocha, I was asked if I was alright or needed anything by a passing bicyclist. I responded with a McCartneyesque thumb aloft and a cheery "no worries", but in retrospect I should have asked if they had any sunscreen - my forearms are slightly sunburned. And there's a strange, dark bronze triangle formed by the gap between my G-Shock and my left cycling mitt. Tanlines to die for on my legs, though.

But I was quite touched by that comradeship, that unselfish sense of community and instinct to help. I pondered that as I pressed on toward Lincolnshire, and it made me go all Liberal Democrat for a few minutes.

Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on May 28, 2016, 20:46:37 PM
and it made me go all Liberal Democrat for a few minutes.
I wouldn't try cycling in sandals...
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on May 29, 2016, 12:43:34 PM
Thought I'd go for a quick run out to Breedon Lane and back before going out to lunch, but I hadn't gone more than 200 yards before I'd decided that the breeze was a bit too fresh for the short sleeve top I was wearing, so I decided to improvise a 5 or 6 mile route toward Coalville and back along the by-pass.

However I'd warmed up nicely by the time I got back, so I dutifully pedalled down to Heather and back to make it 9.15. Unfortunately I was overtaken by half of Hinckley Cycling Club on the way there. Interestingly they all seemed to have identical saddle bags; perhaps they'd got a bulk deal.

https://www.strava.com/activities/591743232

508 this month, so it looks like I'll break my monthly record of 528, set only last month! These long trips out certainly clock up the miles.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nick on May 29, 2016, 14:19:13 PM
Usual 22 miles in the glorious sun, quite humid down here in the South West, found myself finishing my water bottle which normally I only 2/3rds finish. BBQ and beer later.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: döm on May 29, 2016, 17:24:19 PM
Today's spin came to 60kms my longest this year (and probably my longest cycle ever). Plenty of breaks though including a long one on the hill of tara with coffee and a muffin. Set out with what was essentially my winter kit but had to change into much lighter gear. Glorious weather!
Check out my 60.4 km Ride on Strava: https://www.strava.com/activities/591927468
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on May 29, 2016, 18:30:30 PM
With a 100 miler coming up next weekend and leaden legs after just 69 miles yesterday, I thought that a gentle spin out on the hybrid would be just the thing. So, off down the local canal towpath and old railway line to Rother Valley Country park. It would have been just the thing if it weren't for the detritus of humanity that spread out over the entire path along with their canine companions which ought to be on leads but aren't. One bloody Alsatian came after me >:( And, if you're oy cycling with your kids, let them go ahead of you, because when they're behind you you can't see them weaving all over the path >:(

https://www.strava.com/activities/592191977/segments/14419507965

That takes me to 565 miles for May. I'd say that's my highest ever monthly total.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on May 30, 2016, 15:55:29 PM
Went out intending to do 11 or 12 miles, but by the time I'd got to the Odd House - a pub situated between Snarestone and Swepstone - I decided to do the Saturday route. Since I was oncall though I shortened it a bit by cutting out Sheepy Magna and Bosworth.  Unfortunately I had a shocker of a headwind to contend with on the way back. I might have chosen a predominantly East-West route if I'd planned beforehand, but spontaneity is part of my charm.

22.88 miles, only 6 more than the usual Belton route. But it feels more like a proper run out.

https://www.strava.com/activities/592952074

531 this month, and the weather is not looking good for tomorrow so that's probably it.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: döm on May 30, 2016, 19:52:49 PM
A nice 20k in yet more glorious sunshine.  It looks like we have a few more days of it too. Was hoping to beat my yearly total from last year by the end of May but I think I will fall just short

Check out my 21.9 km Ride on Strava: https://www.strava.com/activities/593162273
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on May 30, 2016, 21:53:47 PM
Just a couple of short - one very short - rides today, as I taper off before the weekend.
The first was just up the lanes to go and see my old dad, I had intended to break my record on the Strava segment on the way, but on a single track road, I encountered Kiveton park Cycle club members riding 2 abreast. Scum. I failed by a second.
Then it as 11 miles mainly  going up and down the only flat mile of road I can think of in North Derbyshire. Heading North it was probably good practice for Saturday as I think I'll be battling a Northerly headwind for the last thirty miles. Going South it was a breeze - apart from all the parked cars in the way - but I did set the second best time ever on that segment. Since then however tow people have gone even quicker. Oh for a permanent tailwind.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on May 31, 2016, 12:36:10 PM
I've joined Strava's June Distance Challenge, however it's deeply improbable that I'll clock up the 777 miles, not least because I'm supposed to be working in Southampton for a week. I do hope to do the Gran Fondo though, having done two of them in May.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: döm on May 31, 2016, 13:20:02 PM
I've joined Strava's June Distance Challenge, however it's deeply improbable that I'll clock up the 777 miles, not least because I'm supposed to be working in Southampton for a week. I do hope to do the Gran Fondo though, having done two of them in May.


I'm planning on doing a 70k sportive on the 12th.  Tour of the lakes starting in Mullingar.  Should be fun, if that goes well and I manage the 100k in Meath in July I might look to reach 115 by August.  We'll see
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: döm on May 31, 2016, 22:39:34 PM
Finished May on 577kms or which brings me up to 1662 for the year 25 less than my total for the whole of last year.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on June 01, 2016, 09:25:40 AM
My stats for the first five months of 2016:

Total miles: 1891
Number of trips: 119
Average distance: 15.89
Maximum distance: 77.52

Compared to the first five months of 2015:

Total miles: 775
Number of trips: 75
Average distance: 10.33
Maximum distance: 22.62
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on June 01, 2016, 16:55:54 PM
Went out to do the standard lunch break Packington Pentagon. Cold, dismally cloudy, windy and a threat of rain so not the best conditions, but I've set myself a target of 300 for each of the four middle months, so because I'll be away from home for a week or so at least, I wanted to get the June campaign off to a decent start.

I took the hybrid, but it didn't rain.

Had to wear leggings, and my thumbs got painfully cold from resting them on the bars. Disappointing for June but at least we had warm weather at the weekend.

Anyway, 11.75 miles (I performed a slight flourish at the end). 1903 done this year.

https://www.strava.com/activities/595128179
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: pdw1 on June 01, 2016, 19:29:10 PM
An interesting little article about cheating in amateur sport particularly cycling
http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2016/jun/01/dope-and-glory-the-rise-of-cheating-in-amateur-sport
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on June 01, 2016, 21:53:00 PM
An interesting little article about cheating in amateur sport particularly cycling
http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2016/jun/01/dope-and-glory-the-rise-of-cheating-in-amateur-sport
Typical Leftie Grauniad, having a go at people for wanting to better themselves...

Went out to ride up and down my local bit of flat road again, with a bit of added hill work at the end. By 'eck it were 'ard wok cycling North into a stiff headwind, but it wor raight nice gooin back south again :)
Because it was cold, I put on my skin tight bib tights and close fitting top and used the fresh Northerly breeze at my back to set my fastest time on the Strava segment "Litter Pickers Sprint". Fourth quickest overall on it now :)

https://www.strava.com/activities/595423005
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nick on June 02, 2016, 20:11:56 PM
22 miles in my new DHB kit, flourescing down the lanes. Feel like I need a new helmet, I don't really but such is the lure of cycling kit. I should have stuck to offspin bowling in a set of whites.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: andyhaines on June 02, 2016, 21:06:28 PM
Back about an hour ago. Absolutely cracking day out. It did get off to a slightly iffy start though, as I realised after about half a mile that I'd forgotten my bike lock. I dutifully returned to the garage to pick it up. But then I forgot to restart the GPS until a mile after the restart, thereby robbing myself of slightly more than a mile of distance recording.

This in turn buggered up my precise directions, and I took a right turn too early just after Copt Oak. When I realised I'd gone wrong I stopped to consult Google Maps and found my way to the planned route easily enough, albeit having added a couple of unnecessary miles. After this it was plain sailing, through Woodhouse Eaves, Quorn, Barrow upon Soar and then along a long, gently meandering and pleasingly level road that took me all the way to the turn off for Belvoir Castle, and the border with Lincolnshire - marked by the bridge shown below. No 'Welcome to Lincolnshire' sign, sadly.

(http://truth.justdied.com/images/lincs_border.jpg)
I pedalled over the bridge and into the village for a few minutes, then headed back to Belvoir Castle where I stopped for lunch at the visitor centre.

Apart from the long climb through Woodhouse Eaves on the way back - four merciless miles of pedalling uphill - this was a breeze. Will plan a 100 mile trip in the next few weeks.

72.4 done, 499 this month.

https://www.strava.com/activities/590921783 (https://www.strava.com/activities/590921783)
Good effort!
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: andyhaines on June 02, 2016, 21:10:45 PM
Succumbed and bought myself a mankini... :P
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: andyhaines on June 02, 2016, 21:23:19 PM
22 miles in my new DHB kit, flourescing down the lanes. Feel like I need a new helmet, I don't really but such is the lure of cycling kit. I should have stuck to offspin bowling in a set of whites.


 ;D
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on June 02, 2016, 21:49:38 PM
22 miles in my new DHB kit, flourescing down the lanes. Feel like I need a new helmet, I don't really but such is the lure of cycling kit.
I was out in my new DHB kit tonight and called off to see my old dad. On the way out I saw myself in the mirror in the hall and said "I need a new helmet, this one just doesn't go with the kit..."

Just did an hour of gentle spinning tonight, up and down the local flat bit of road again, almost getting knocked off about five times by impatient car drivers, I;m going past a line of parked cars, then they're trying to get by me when there's a car coming the other way >:(
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on June 02, 2016, 22:58:16 PM
Good effort!

Cheers Andy!
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on June 02, 2016, 23:06:17 PM
I did the expanded version of the Packington Pentagon on a late lunch this afternoon. I pushed myself a bit more than usual as I was short of time and got round in less than 55 mins. Quite blowy out there and I seemed to be putting up with a headwind most of the way round, not really sure how that's possible on an essentially circular course unless I was being victimised by the weather.

I put on my new yellow / black jersey with matching yellow / black shorts, and funnily enough I had the same thought as Nick - I need a new helmet. A red/black/white one just doesn't work 

Anyway - 13.17, 25 done this month. More tomorrow I hope.

https://www.strava.com/activities/596576302
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: döm on June 03, 2016, 07:24:55 AM
An interesting little article about cheating in amateur sport particularly cycling
http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2016/jun/01/dope-and-glory-the-rise-of-cheating-in-amateur-sport

Good article!  The closest I get to cheating is flying along(for me) a particular segment then going home to see I made the 23rd best time as part of a 12k trip.   Looking at the others around me who did a similar time it generally seems to be for trips of at least 150kms!
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on June 03, 2016, 16:12:49 PM
Thought it might be nice to have a run all the way along to Ashby for a change, so I did. I was slightly hesitant, as the last time I cycled through those parts, the sad news that Prince had died came through on 5 Live while I was pedalling along, and the time before that it was Victoria Wood. Fortunately there seems to have been no collateral damage this time.

Unhappily, because I'd fiddled with my Forerunner 10 last night I wasn't able to see the distance I'd travelled; only some notional calculation of calories burned. But I made up a route through Packington and Heather and ended up on 10.86.

https://www.strava.com/activities/597157946

Out later as well hopefully. 36 done this month.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: döm on June 03, 2016, 19:28:40 PM
Went over our local "hill" called Breemount this evening. At the bottom of the hill I take a left to take me back to Trim. That means losing a lot of momentum. The other frustrating thing about the route is that the Runtastic Road bike app fails to register all the climbing that goes on on the way back.  What makes it even worse is that Strava (which I have running in the background) registers even less climbing.
Runtastic registers 92m and Strava a paltry 64.

No chance of even making Ben Nevis at this rate!

Check out my 17.5 km Ride on Strava: https://www.strava.com/activities/597274668

Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on June 03, 2016, 20:27:48 PM
Went out straight after work on the Diseworth run, which is an extension of the Belton Figure Of Eight. Cloudy and cool but I found the breeze quite refreshing. Quite a lot of riders out, I think the local cycle club must have had an event. I was overtaken by a young chap with disc wheels on his bike and one of those teardrop-shaped helmets.  I always think they make people look like the robot in Battlescar Galactica.

21.62 miles, 57 done this month.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: döm on June 04, 2016, 14:38:05 PM
A glorious morning (7 consecutive days of them now)  and a lovely 50k spin with the Wheelers at their easy pace.

Only problem I've come home with an unpleasant ache in my shoulder. Hope it doesn't last or get worse.

Check out my 50.7 km Ride on Strava: https://www.strava.com/activities/597982708
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on June 04, 2016, 15:42:23 PM
Not long since I've got back from my first 100 mile ride. Currently slapping loads of Sudocrem in the nether regions...
It was the Thorne Flat'n'Fast Sportive. It was certainly flat - for the most part - and at a shade under 19mph it was quickish. I had been averaging about 19.5, but after the second feed stop at 80 miles I started to flag a bit, it was all very flat, on very straight roads into just enough of a headwind to take the edge off your speed. The big slab of Parkin and a packet of Haribos probably didn't help.
It certainly does make a difference when you get on the back of a group, you save no end of energy. I bet they cursed me when after drafting along on the flat I took off going up the first of what passed for hills! They had the last laugh when they came by me after my chain came off :(

https://www.strava.com/activities/598123875
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: döm on June 04, 2016, 16:09:13 PM
Fair play Nick. To average over 30kms per hour on a 160k spin is very good going!
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on June 04, 2016, 16:34:26 PM
Nice one Nick. I'm just back from a  modest 27.07 mile run out, a modestly extended version of the Saturday 25 miler. First time I've done the proper course for a while; the last couple of times I've cut out Sheepy Magna and Market Bosworth.

Lovely day out there, warm and sunny. I listened to a radio adaptation of John Wyndham's The Kraken Wakes on R4, deliciously overacted. I did turn slightly nauseous when Nicola Sturgeon turned up in it, playing herself. Cheaper than David Cameron probably.

https://www.strava.com/activities/598214373

I've now done 84 this month. More tomorrow but I think that's it for today.

Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: döm on June 04, 2016, 16:43:31 PM
Hey Slim, no guilt over Muhammed Ali I hope! 
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on June 04, 2016, 16:57:34 PM
That did cross my mind this morning!
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on June 04, 2016, 17:03:50 PM
Fair play Nick. To average over 30kms per hour on a 160k spin is very good going!
Thanks döm!
Although, out of the people who have uploaded their rides to Strava I rank 58 out of 177 at the moment. But, Strava timings include stops and some people did it all in one go, whereas I made full use of the Feed Stations :) Had a nice Chicken Wrap and a gingery Fruit Cake at the first and Parkin and more Fruit cake at the second.

It seems as if my bike is as common as muck, I must have seen ten others today. It does make a nice noise as it rolls along I must say though, there were others on the road with particularly noisy freewheels and a bloke from Wakefield triathlon club has the noisiest gear change I've ever heard, sounded like his bike was going to fall to bits!
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on June 04, 2016, 23:39:15 PM
Cycling, the new Rock and Roll!

(http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u55/Nickslikk2112/Flat_zpswgevtgcf.jpg)
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on June 05, 2016, 15:20:56 PM
Liking the kit, but I think you need a Rush album-themed helmet.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on June 05, 2016, 17:18:11 PM
Three rides recorded so far today, a quick 9.08 miles through Heather and Newton Burgoland:

https://www.strava.com/activities/599393523

To the pub, accompanied by 'er indoors on her own bike (9.04)

https://www.strava.com/activities/599393538

And back

https://www.strava.com/activities/599393525 (5.16)

If I cared about average speeds I wouldn't have uploaded those last two, the pace was a bit leisurely.

Lovely out there - warm and sunny.

1999 miles done this year, 108 this month.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on June 05, 2016, 18:53:26 PM
but I think you need a Rush album-themed helmet.
Don't know about that, but I left plenty of Vapor Trails after my Chicken wrap...

I was in two minds as to whether to go out today or not and Mrs S had various tasks lined up for me to pay her back for her getting up at half five yesterday to make me some porridge. But did I want to be a mouse? HELL NO!!!!
So, it was off out for a quick 23.65 miles, I can't say as yesterday's efforts can have taken too much out of me as I set some uphill records for me although other upward bits were a bit tardy. Almost twice as much climbing today in a quarter of yesterday's distance, it's good to go uphill at times I now realise, the flat is just too relentless.

https://www.strava.com/activities/599650461
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on June 05, 2016, 21:25:57 PM
I know what you mean about the flat stretches, there was a point as I was heading east last weekend toward Lincs when I was glad to see a moderate hill loom up ahead.

Anyway I went out after dinner to explore a new route that goes past Charnwood Lodge National Nature Reserve. Been along there plenty of times in a car, but not on a bike. Unfortunately it's a real rollercoaster of steepish ups and downs with a scary long descent and a sudden dip that's alarming even in a car. However it does lead to Charley Road which leads in turn to Shepshed, and is a beautifully quiet little road, splendidly overlooked by green fields and trees and a picturesque windmill. From Shepshed I followed signs to Belton then back the usual way along Ashby Road.

18.3 miles, which takes me to 126 this month, 2017 this year.

https://www.strava.com/activities/599831880
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Moving Target on June 05, 2016, 22:08:40 PM
Cycling, the new Rock and Roll!



If you're going to be quick, don't wear red.  That's for the Lantern Rouge at the back (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lanterne_rouge).  That's why I wear red!  :P

Surprised myself by getting the bike out yesterday and today and doing twenty miles each time.  I can hold 19 mph on good tarmac for a bit, but there are so many lights and so many cars round here that my average gets knocked down to under 14 mph.  :-\
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on June 05, 2016, 22:52:48 PM
If you're going to be quick, don't wear red. 
But red cars go faster...


Plus it matches my helmet and socks. I'm a dapper chappy :)
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on June 06, 2016, 09:32:08 AM
Not long since I've got back from my first 100 mile ride. Currently slapping loads of Sudocrem in the nether regions...
It was the Thorne Flat'n'Fast Sportive. It was certainly flat - for the most part - and at a shade under 19mph it was quickish. I had been averaging about 19.5, but after the second feed stop at 80 miles I started to flag a bit, it was all very flat, on very straight roads into just enough of a headwind to take the edge off your speed. The big slab of Parkin and a packet of Haribos probably didn't help.
It certainly does make a difference when you get on the back of a group, you save no end of energy. I bet they cursed me when after drafting along on the flat I took off going up the first of what passed for hills! They had the last laugh when they came by me after my chain came off :(

https://www.strava.com/activities/598123875

Naughty wheelsucker! Take your turn at the front and be a man!!!
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on June 06, 2016, 18:05:05 PM
My two good pairs of cycle shorts are both in the wash so I had to go out in my emergency pair. They are far too short, ride up my legs and look like hot pants. I did get a lustful look from a bloke in a car coming out of Coleorton. And I have compromised my tan lines a bit.

Anyway very warm out there, actually a bit warmer than you want for cycling. I did the Breedon Lane run with an unusual detour along Aqueduct Rd on the way out. 14.47 miles, and that's 141 this month.

https://www.strava.com/activities/600567611

I'll be in Southampton from Sunday to Friday but I managed to cram the hybrid in the back of the car with the front wheel off, the rear seat folded down and the passenger seat pushed right forward. Weather permitting I'll be taking in some new scenery next week and clocking up a few more miles. I do actually have a bike carrier but I don't fancy driving all the way down to Southampton with the hybrid hanging off the back.

Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: andyhaines on June 06, 2016, 19:31:06 PM
My two good pairs of cycle shorts are both in the wash so I had to go out in my emergency pair. They are far too short, ride up my legs and look like hot pants. I did get a lustful look from a bloke in a car coming out of Coleorton. And I have compromised my tan lines a bit.

Anyway very warm out there, actually a bit warmer than you want for cycling. I did the Breedon Lane run with an unusual detour along Aqueduct Rd on the way out. 14.47 miles, and that's 141 this month.

https://www.strava.com/activities/600567611 (https://www.strava.com/activities/600567611)

I'll be in Southampton from Sunday to Friday but I managed to cram the hybrid in the back of the car with the front wheel off, the rear seat folded down and the passenger seat pushed right forward. Weather permitting I'll be taking in some new scenery next week and clocking up a few more miles. I do actually have a bike carrier but I don't fancy driving all the way down to Southampton with the hybrid hanging off the back.
Some nice cycling around the New Forest, both on and off road.  :)
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on June 06, 2016, 20:17:56 PM
Naughty wheelsucker! Take your turn at the front and be a man!!!
I took my turn at the front - it was just too quick for them...
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nick on June 06, 2016, 20:47:12 PM
Changed my route up a bit tonight with a nasty hill alongside Knightshayes, the local National Trust property. It added an extra 600 ft of climbing to the usual route and was nastily severe in places. I certainly felt it for the rest of the ride. Saw some deer and scared a hare down the road for a while.

https://www.strava.com/activities/600740166
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on June 06, 2016, 22:42:22 PM
Went out just after 9pm to make the most of the nice weather, and did the usual lunch break route, aka the "Packington Pentagon". For fun I thought I'd see if I could get to the next village, a couple of miles away as quickly as possible, then check the time as a sort of benchmark. However by the time I got there I was almost having fun flying along at (relatively) high speed so I thought I'd have a crack at my record for that route, which stood at 45 minutes. I needed to get round fairly sharpish anyway as I don't have lights on the Boardman at the moment.

Anyway after the 25 minute mark I'd started to regret it slightly but I knew I was on a fast time when I saw that I'd come through Packington after only 28 minutes. Forced myself to push up Alton Hill as fast as I could, literally groaning out loud. And as I lunged for the stop button on my Garmin at the garage door about five minutes later, the elapsed time display was on 42:59, beating my previous record by two minutes.

As I always say, it's not my thing really but fun to do just for a change. And nice to have eight new personal records for segments on my most-frequently pedalled route! Though bizarrely it was only my 2nd fastest time up Alton Hill apparently.

https://www.strava.com/activities/600904100 (https://www.strava.com/activities/600904100)

I see I went round at an average speed of 16.0 mph, which I may never do again.

11.47 miles; 152 this month.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on June 07, 2016, 16:47:09 PM
Just back from a performance of the Expanded Packington Pentagon, at a rather less demanding pace than last night's run out. Very warm out there, was glad of a chilled Grolsch on my return. That's the nice thing about working from home, no-one will raise an eyebrow at the empty beer bottle on your desk.

No sign of the threatened thunderstorms so far.

https://www.strava.com/activities/601610636

13.54, 166 this month, 2057 this year. Looking good for 2112 in 6 months!




Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on June 07, 2016, 17:23:20 PM
tried to turbo train in the garage last night, 20 minutes in I was blind with sweat and properly overheating

Think I may hit the roads tonight. Presume rubber tyres will protect me from lightning strikes?
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on June 07, 2016, 18:25:44 PM
I'm afraid they won't, so you'll have to take your chances :)
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on June 07, 2016, 19:25:53 PM
Some ducks and a scarecrow at Sibson on Saturday.

(http://truth.justdied.com/images/sibson_ducks.jpg)
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on June 07, 2016, 21:53:10 PM
Did a modified version of my Col de Three Handleys ride tonoight, putting in an extra mile and a half and 200 feet more climbing.
First time I did it, I averaged 16.5 mph, second time 17.5, tonight eighteen point ...... four. If I'd not gone up Lockoford Lane it would have been 18.5, but hey-ho.

It was a bit warm and humid tonight and it just started raining when I got home, I thought it had been raining for ages with the sweat dripping onto my legs and the flies hitting my face and helmet like crystal raindrops.

https://www.strava.com/activities/601959234/overview

The elevation profile looks a bit like Mrs S when she's lying on her back...
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on June 08, 2016, 13:38:07 PM
Scorchio out there again today
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on June 08, 2016, 15:39:39 PM
Lovely day for sitting on the patio sipping a gin martini with a lemon twist, not so much for cycling. Nonetheless I did the latter, 13.31 miles on a route I haven't done for quite some time. Drearily urban through Ellistown but there's a nice stretch running through Barton in the Beans and after that it's the last few miles of the Saturday route.

A bit too much effort that one for 13.31 miles, especially in this weather.

2070 miles done this year, 179 this month.

I now only need to do about 30 miles a week to hit my 2016 target of 3,000 miles, so I'll aim for 3500. I might move the goalposts again later in the year but that'll do for now.

1423 to go!

https://www.strava.com/activities/602698649
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nick on June 08, 2016, 19:37:47 PM
Just did a quick 16 miles, got home and sweated as if someone had poured a bucket of wate on me, very humid again in Devon.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on June 08, 2016, 21:52:11 PM
Not long back from a quick 23 miles, thankfully not as humid as last night, so was able to peel off the kit a bit better when I got in :)
I upset a couple of Horse riders tonight, I was heading downhill into Pilsley and had to go by a line of parked cars with a couple of White Vans parked in front of them, once past the vans I pulled in, only to discover two horse riders who I hadn't had a hope in hell of seeing, I could hear their hooves clatter and the riders shouting abuse at me, but there was nowt I could have done about it.

https://www.strava.com/activities/603084642
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on June 09, 2016, 16:00:24 PM
Cycled in to the office, past all the deadbeats and hippies at Download. Nice weather for it though.

11.25. Will take a longer way back through Diseworth.

https://www.strava.com/activities/603805158
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on June 09, 2016, 16:49:51 PM
Ed Force 1 landed at Donnington yet?
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on June 09, 2016, 19:34:25 PM
I didn't see it come in, but maybe it has! Isn't it broken though?

Anyway I cycled back home, as you do. Took a longer and more pleasant route through Diseworth, going right through Long Whatton this time. 16.65, 207 this month now.

https://www.strava.com/activities/604038897
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on June 09, 2016, 21:53:15 PM
Went out for another quick spin tonight. Wish I'd slowed it down a bit as it was warm and humid again tonight. Although I was slower than the last couple of nights, because tonight's route had more short, sharp climbs in which knock you back a bit. I did manage to do most of them quicker than in the past, so I got a few PBs to show for it in Strava.

https://www.strava.com/activities/604167527
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nick on June 09, 2016, 22:07:04 PM
25 miles tonight, nice riding but the hedgerows are growing fast and had a couple of close shaves with cars.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on June 11, 2016, 12:54:13 PM
Just back from a route I largely made up as I went along, through Ibstock then Odstone, Measham and Heather. Nice and fresh out there at first but quite warm and humid again by the time I got back. I took the hybrid in case of rain, but it didn't happen except for a single but conspicuously large raindrop that hit my right thigh coming out of Measham.

https://www.strava.com/activities/605705961

17.31 miles, which takes me past the 2112 mark which was my original target for this year. Took me until October to do that many in 2015.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on June 11, 2016, 18:19:05 PM
Wish I'd taken the hybrid today, as I - and the good bike - got drenched :(
The rainfall radar sat 14:30 showed a couple of light showers on the Derbys/Notts border. I'll survive those I thought. I did, there was just a light shower 10 miles in. It then dried up. Hoorah.
What I didn't know was that more heavy showers had brewed up and 32 miles in I hit a torrential downpour, the roads became like rivers and by the time I got to Bozer it was a Noachian deluge, so I took refuge in the church lych gate. Once the rain had slowed to a trickle I set off again, but the descent of Bozer Hill was like a white water rapids descent, I certainly took longer down it than I ever have before. Apart from all that it was a nice ride out :)

https://www.strava.com/activities/606056345
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: döm on June 11, 2016, 19:59:13 PM
Just a quick 20k today as I'm doing the Tour of the Lakes from Mullingar in West Meath tomorrow. Early start too so only 1 beer watching the game this evening!

Check out my 25.3 km Ride on Strava: https://www.strava.com/activities/605675615
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nick on June 12, 2016, 13:16:36 PM
22 miles today in mixed weather, took in a couple of horse riders and a village fete.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: döm on June 12, 2016, 15:38:36 PM
Annoyed that I didn't set Strava for the 65k trip of the lakes. Great to get out for a cycle in a different part of the country.

It was a sportive with a lead car to limit speed and a wagon at the back to pick up any stragglers/people in need of repairs. Annoyed that the 500m of climbing won't go towards to June Challenge though.

https://www.runtastic.com/sport-sessions/1274000730
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on June 12, 2016, 18:45:30 PM
After thinking I'd keep dry yesterday, but ending up with a good drowning, today looked like it would end up being a no go day yest ended up stopping dry in the afternoon with all the rain in the morning - the exact opposite of the forecast, any afternoon showers dissipated before hitting Chesterfield.
But, rather than risk going out and getting an unforeseen soaking again and with my shoes not being totally dry from yesterday I did my fallback ride - going up and down the hill in my local park. Before that though, I set a personal best up the steepest road near my house, I now rank 3/110 and best in the 45-54 age range :) How the fastest bloke up it has done it 19s quicker than me I knoweth not.

https://www.strava.com/activities/607292518
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on June 12, 2016, 23:28:00 PM
Congratulations to Chris Froome on his third victory in the Dauphiné. Hopefully he can repeat what he did after his other two.
Congratulations to Stephen Cummings for his stage victory in the Dauphiné today.
Well done to True Brit Dan Martin for finishing on the podium in the Dauphiné.
Hard lines to Adam Yates for failing to win the best young rider jersey in the Dauphiné, seventh place not too bad though for a whippersnapper :)
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on June 14, 2016, 15:07:33 PM
Out on the hybrid again, but it didn't rain. I mostly pedalled around the suburbs of Coalville at a leisurely pace. Reminded me of the days I'd ride around Hartlepool on my bike as a kid. Nice out there when the Sun came out. Warm.

12.43 miles, 237 this month now.

https://www.strava.com/activities/608988247
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on June 14, 2016, 22:00:10 PM
Being as I intend going to see the Women's Tour of Britain cross Beeley Moor on Friday - before pelting back to town to hopefully see the finish - I thought I'd better see if I could actually get up my chosen route of the Col du Wigley. My last attempt last year needed three "drink stops". Well, this year I did it all in one go :) Strava in its infinite wisdom had chosen it for one of my "Live Segments" and alerted me to the fact I was approaching it and that I needed to beat 9m 39s to get the KOM. Damn, missed out by 3m 24s. That'll do me!
I didn't miss the rain though. I felt sure I would, I could see it over Wingerworth and knew I'd miss that. I didn't see the bit come up from the Derwent Valley. All the way from Beeley Moor to the main Matlock Road it siled it down. Luckily it stopped bang at the main road, wouldn't have fancied going at 40mph in the wet.

https://www.strava.com/activities/609366238
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on June 15, 2016, 14:11:26 PM
Garmin playing up again. it really does not like the wet these days
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on June 16, 2016, 19:59:07 PM
That's a pity, maybe get a cheap GPS watch for wet weather and save it for the sunny days.

I went out on the hybrid at lunchtime, but it didn't rain and I dodged most of the puddles. Quite warm out there, very pleasant. I went down through Ibstock, across toward Bagworth then up through Barton in the Beans and Odstone; once again the last few miles of the Saturday route. Managed to dodge most of the puddles.

https://www.strava.com/activities/611291085 (https://www.strava.com/activities/611291085)

14.59 miles.

Went out again after work, through Swannington and Coleorton in a version of the Truncated Top Brand enhanced by randomness induced by taking turns along unfamiliar lanes, then doing u-turns when I saw the quantity of standing water. Splashed the bike a bit coming back through Swannington but I assaulted it with GT85 as usual on my return. It started to rain just as I wheeled the hybrid back into the garage. Immaculate timing.

https://www.strava.com/activities/611291079 (https://www.strava.com/activities/611291079)

All of which takes me to 265 this month. Glad to have managed to sneak in 29 miles today as the weather has been diabolical this last few days.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on June 16, 2016, 20:13:55 PM
Garmin playing up again. it really does not like the wet these days
Mine works OK on wet days - speed, distance, Heart Rate, cadence monitoring - but when I actually get caught in the rain it buugers up the height I climbed.
On Saturday it had me going up and down vertical cliffs and on Tuesday after I got caught in a downpour just past my highest point, I barely descended again afterwards. Luckily Strava fixed it.

Last two evenings haven't even been fit for ducks to be cycling.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nick on June 16, 2016, 21:02:35 PM
Out tonight, nice evening after a couple of days of torrential rain, lots of loose stones about, washed down the lanes and out of fields, made it a bit challenging, 16 miles. have signed up for a charity ride next Sunday and am contemplating doing the 100 mile rather than the 60 mile route, 6600ft of climbing.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on June 16, 2016, 21:44:47 PM
If it weren't for the climbing, I'd say do it...

Then again I did 100 miles with 680 feet of climbing, the flat gets a bit monotonous...
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on June 16, 2016, 23:27:16 PM
Could really do with a weekend of warm dry and calm weather, I really fancy doing another 70+ run out. I'd be annoyed if it's this weekend though, I'm supposed to be working both days.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on June 17, 2016, 10:02:42 AM
mixture of weather, Mrs M in Portugal and doing the school runs/daddy day care means I am having a mid season break.

Feeling quite refreshed
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on June 17, 2016, 16:45:59 PM
Went out to see the Women's Tour of Britain today. Went up the way I rehearsed on Tuesday and ascended the Col du Wigley more slowly. Thought I'd be quicker after a couple of days rest, but I think I have a cold coming on, as the lungs were feeling it more than the legs. Once the first couple of batches of cyclists had come through, I set off back into Chesterfield to catch the finish, knowing that the women had to descend back to the Derwent Valley and then climb back again before passing by the school where Mrs S works - Mrs S organised it for the kids to come and watch if they so wished - It was fun going back into town, as loads of people were standing outside their houses and I waved on my way past, informing them that the tour had crossed onto Beeley Moor 20 minutes back :)
I did manage to glimpse the finish and hung around for the presentations. Nice to see Lizzie Armitstead get the win and the Yellow Jersey.
Afterwards I was going to go out for another ride, but Chez Vegas was gridlocked and then I'd have hit school chucking out time so back home it was.

Here's some very poor video:

https://youtu.be/1U9cfl8GUT0
https://youtu.be/nEkr-pjXbqk
https://youtu.be/umdqXZVBciw

And a poor picture:
(http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u55/Nickslikk2112/DSC_0670_zpsumtm2nce.jpg)

https://www.strava.com/activities/611966580
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on June 17, 2016, 16:46:35 PM
Out on the road bike again, good timing, the Sun came out for a bit. I took the road bike as there didn't seem to be significant amounts of standing water left, but had to contend with a small river across the road at Normandy Wood. I don't think the roads drain very well in this part of the world and half of the drains are clogged up anyway.

Anyway 14.81, 280 this month, 1329 this year.

https://www.strava.com/activities/612024895 (https://www.strava.com/activities/612024895)
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on June 18, 2016, 14:16:45 PM
The weekend project is going very well so I sneaked out for 10.85 miles while the database operatives are doing their tests. More later I hope, depending on how the DB migration goes.

10.85, done 291 this month.

https://www.strava.com/activities/612823562
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on June 18, 2016, 18:31:07 PM
Didn't enjoy the last 20 miles of today's ride. I'd strapped my left foot in too tightly and I ended up losing all feeling in it which led to poor pedal rotation and a strained thigh. I left it too late before sorting it out so it was a bit of a struggle back home. Ended up with a bit of undercarriage chafing too :(
It didn't rain though :)

https://www.strava.com/activities/613189478
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on June 18, 2016, 22:05:42 PM
Project finished early, went out again at about 8:15pm. Lovely evening out there and a nice time of day to be out in the countryside. Very atmospheric when the Sun appeared from under a blanket of cloud; the light seemed artificial, like a giant floodlight. Birds flying at low level, inches above the road between Duston and Ibstock - swallow? Or swifts? Those forky tail ones anyway. I assume looking for insects.

I decided I hadn't really done enough by the time I'd reached Ibstock a couple of miles from home so I decided to go exploring for a bit, and ended up on a road going through Donington le Heath. Very nice, perhaps I'll incorporate that one into the usual Saturday route instead of the usual way back from Ibstock.

13.21 miles which takes me over the 300 June target, to 304. More tomorrow I hope although I'm supposed to be on standby in case the migration goes Pete Tong.

https://www.strava.com/activities/613400548
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on June 19, 2016, 16:14:46 PM
Went out and did a version of the Packington Pentagon. Different from the usual lunchtime version in that it was reversed, and extended down to Snarestone. Only took an hour so I might do that one on my lunch break from time to time.

13.61. 2209 done this year now, 318 this month.

https://www.strava.com/activities/614220602
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on June 19, 2016, 17:54:21 PM
Went out to see my old Dad on Father's day. Nearly didn't get there, rounded one corner on a single track road to find a father and his daughter riding two abreast downhill towards me, the father being on my side of the road. How the hell are kids supposed to grow up with a sense of decency and right when their parents act with such shameless disregard? At least the horse riders I encountered round the next bend were riding single file.
I'd fully intended to go out on  a proper ride afterwards, but rain set in and the wind picked up and my guts are feeling a bit gripy - probably from yesterday's Fly protein ingestion...

I was hoping to hit 1,600 miles for the year, but instead I'm at 1,584 with a June total of 382.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: döm on June 19, 2016, 19:20:30 PM
Rained all day today. Completely miserable day.

2060 kms this year,  390 this month and 180kms this week.

Translates to 1280, 242 and 113 miles respectively



Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nick on June 19, 2016, 20:11:29 PM
Two new continental gpII tyres for Father's Day, fitted them this afternoon and cleaned the bike. Last nights beer festival meant I wasn't really up for a ride today.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on June 21, 2016, 15:48:22 PM
I did the Snarestone-extended version of the Packington Pentagon again. Pushed it a bit for the last half as I was short of time but only went round 3.5 mins faster than on Sunday. Perhaps another run out later.

Nice and warm out there at the moment.

https://www.strava.com/activities/616121761
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on June 21, 2016, 21:03:16 PM
Out after work again and it was so nice out there that I decided to do the Saturday 25-miler.  Almost the full monty this time, no shortcuts except that I bypassed Market Bosworth through Carlton. Developed a bit of backache after the first 15 miles or so which seemed to be spreading down my right leg so I stopped to rest for 7 or 8 minutes at a wooden bus shelter a Barton in the Beans. Very tranquil out there, lovely.

Intended to take the diversion through Donington le Heath again, although I missed a turn and hit Hugglescote instead.

 https://www.strava.com/activities/616492640

25.79 miles, 357 this month.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on June 21, 2016, 22:05:45 PM
What a difference a change in wind direction makes, even when it's only a gentle breeze. A 180 degree change in direction from the last time I did tonight's route meant a 1 minute 20 longer ride and one where I had really put some effort in to even get that close!
Probably didn't help that I had a stomach full of Naan bread on top a Thai green curry, should have waited more than half an hour before going out and then I'd have had some wind propelling me from behind!

20.86 miles has taken me over 1,600 for the year and to 404 for June.

https://www.strava.com/activities/616512457
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on June 22, 2016, 09:37:20 AM
you lot are putting in some proper miles, I feel jealous!

Just signed up for the Stratford Tempest sportive on July 16th, which is an absolutely glorious ride if youlike countryside (rolling plus one twat of a hill), chocolate box villages, start and finish at the racecourse etc

Well worth a go

http://www.ukcyclingevents.co.uk/events/wiggle-stratford-tempest-sportive/

Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on June 22, 2016, 17:03:44 PM
Out for a very quick one on a late lunch today, 8.59 miles. I had a meeting at 3pm. Still, it started raining exactly as I wheeled the bike into the garage, so just as well I couldn't stay out for longer. I've been lucky with the weather recently, for some reason.

https://www.strava.com/activities/617301765
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on June 22, 2016, 21:56:25 PM
you lot are putting in some proper miles, I feel jealous!

Just signed up for the Stratford Tempest sportive on July 16th, which is an absolutely glorious ride if youlike countryside (rolling plus one twat of a hill), chocolate box villages, start and finish at the racecourse etc

Well worth a go

http://www.ukcyclingevents.co.uk/events/wiggle-stratford-tempest-sportive/
Looks a nice one, but Stratford's a bit far for me. I'm thinking of doing the Forest Ranger from Uttoxeter on October.

Couldn't be bothered to do one of my regular evening 20 milers tonight, as the Rainfall radar showed a line of showers to the SE and it looked like it was raining over to the NE, so I just did a bit of riding up and down the same patch - to pick up a PB - and then go down a road I've not done in 40 years!
As it was the showers to the SE rapidly moved away and the dark cloud to the NE melted away. I got a right sweat on though all the same.

https://www.strava.com/activities/617613174
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on June 23, 2016, 10:00:41 AM
Looks a nice one, but Stratford's a bit far for me. I'm thinking of doing the Forest Ranger from Uttoxeter on October.

Couldn't be bothered to do one of my regular evening 20 milers tonight, as the Rainfall radar showed a line of showers to the SE and it looked like it was raining over to the NE, so I just did a bit of riding up and down the same patch - to pick up a PB - and then go down a road I've not done in 40 years!
As it was the showers to the SE rapidly moved away and the dark cloud to the NE melted away. I got a right sweat on though all the same.

https://www.strava.com/activities/617613174

Uttoxeter is quite accessible for me, I might be tempted! Looks a nice flat/rolling course, and takes in a lot of roads I would often go on

What distance ? the 101 would be quite manageable on a course of that nature
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on June 23, 2016, 18:46:15 PM
Went out at lunchtime and did a new route, all of it made up of familiar roads form other routes, though. Not a bad one except that it goes through Ibstock which can be busy when the kids are coming out of school.

https://www.strava.com/activities/618391979

379 this month now, 2270 this year.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on June 23, 2016, 19:22:11 PM
Uttoxeter is quite accessible for me, I might be tempted! Looks a nice flat/rolling course, and takes in a lot of roads I would often go on

What distance ? the 101 would be quite manageable on a course of that nature
Not sure about the 83 or the 101. Might be doing another 100 miler the week after, might not have it in the old legs for 100 miles on consecutive weekends...
Although the Epic does pass near Slim's part of the World :)
http://www.ukcyclingevents.co.uk/maps/2016/ukce-forest-ranger-2016-map.pdf
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on June 23, 2016, 22:10:58 PM
Was hoping to get an hour in after going to vote, but Mrs S and my good self got waylaid by a foreign chap in a van who was trying to get to Chapel en le Frith. When he asked how far it was I said 30 miles, he didn't understand miles, so I told him 720km to see his face drop. Dumb foreigner. He even indicated we should get in the van with him to show him the way to Chapel! Sorry, but I don't do foreign trips.

Still, I nearly got an hour in, but I think a break might do me good, I'm not doing the mileage I was but my legs feel jaded from the word go. Now I've found I can average 18+ mph over a decent run - last year was 16.5 - I'm trying for it all the time, but I have to realise I'm an old bloke who only really got back into cycling a couple of years ago after a 20 year break and I wasn't that serious back then.

https://www.strava.com/activities/618675327
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on June 23, 2016, 23:43:29 PM
Not sure about the 83 or the 101. Might be doing another 100 miler the week after, might not have it in the old legs for 100 miles on consecutive weekends...
Although the Epic does pass near Slim's part of the World :)
http://www.ukcyclingevents.co.uk/maps/2016/ukce-forest-ranger-2016-map.pdf (http://www.ukcyclingevents.co.uk/maps/2016/ukce-forest-ranger-2016-map.pdf)

Yes it does.. passes within 2 miles of Chez Slim and takes in some of my regular cycling routes.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: döm on June 25, 2016, 20:44:49 PM
57 k (35.5 miles) split into 2 thanks to a long stop in Navan.

It was good to get out as I hadn't got out much this week.

Anyone else lost the copy to clipboard function on Strava? Very annoying!

Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nick on June 26, 2016, 15:22:36 PM
Charity ride, felt really great, new continental gp tyres were very good. Pasties and cakes and the feed stations.
https://www.strava.com/activities/621367605
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: DavidL on June 26, 2016, 18:07:00 PM
First ride for a few weeks covering a modest 28 miles around the west Oxon countryside. Myself and my two cycling buddies managed to conduct an enjoyable post referendum conversation on the quieter roads. Luckily we remained dry which was unexpected due to the ominous clouds that followed us on most of our route.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on June 26, 2016, 18:11:37 PM
Being as I didn't get out on the bike yesterday thanks to Wiggy Blackmore, I thought I'd do a good 50+ miler today, but my pathological dislike of rain made me cut the ride short. If only the forecasted rain had come in on time. If only if I'd got off my big fat backside earlier.
33 miles is better than nothing though, and my legs were feeling less jaded than they have been of late and I set a few PBs without even trying, one or two may have been wind assisted, but what's wrong with that?

https://www.strava.com/activities/621704283
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nick on June 27, 2016, 12:49:16 PM
16 miles, legs needed a spin after yesterdays 100Km.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on June 27, 2016, 21:59:50 PM
On my carbon bike, on the advice of a lot of quality cyclists, I have switched to these:-

http://www.wiggle.co.uk/continental-grand-prix-4000s-ii-folding-road-tyre/
Just put a pair of these on my road bike, thought it would be more enjoyable than watching England. It was :)

Pity I didn't have enough time for a quick spin, looking at the weather forecast it may be a while yet...
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on June 28, 2016, 09:16:53 AM
Just put a pair of these on my road bike, thought it would be more enjoyable than watching England. It was :)

Pity I didn't have enough time for a quick spin, looking at the weather forecast it may be a while yet...

I have had one puncture with them, and I think the nail would have gone through a tractor tyre to be fair. they are very good tyres and a doddle to put on and off

I have signed up for that Uttoxeter ride, the 83 length
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on June 28, 2016, 21:53:24 PM
I have had one puncture with them, and I think the nail would have gone through a tractor tyre to be fair. they are very good tyres and a doddle to put on and off

Sod's law will say I get one the first time I go out on them...
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on June 29, 2016, 09:20:48 AM
I fear I may have a slow puncture, stemming from when I did the repair a couple of weeks ago.

Got on the good bike this morning and the pressure was down to about 55.

Might have it in the sink at lunchtime and investigate
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on June 29, 2016, 22:13:25 PM
Sod's law will say I get one the first time I go out on them...
Sod's law didn't work :)
It will next time though, I'll be bound...

Can't say as I noticed too much difference, but the roads were rather wet today and I climbed further up a hill which always slows you down. I did manage to set some quicker times than last week on segments, but I was putting more effort into them than last week.

That's now 494 miles for June, should pass 500 tomorrow and 1700 for the year.

https://www.strava.com/activities/624948670
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on June 30, 2016, 09:10:55 AM
They wont put 10% on or anything like that, although they will get faster as they wear down a bit.

its all about marginal gains, they are very good tyres and will add to the process
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on June 30, 2016, 11:21:24 AM
Can anyone notice from the sudden lack of PR's and trophies where the slow puncture really took effect?

https://www.strava.com/activities/624964979

Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on June 30, 2016, 22:00:05 PM
Managed in a drier interlude to get out and do the few miles to get me to 500 miles for June. Ah, 500 miles, a good British distance. Any old foreign pissant  peasant on a sit up and beg could do 500km a month, but miles is so much more fulfilling :)

Took the hybrid out as  the weather was inclement. By 'eck, all my marginal gains disappeared! It was like cycling through treacle. I was a good 1.5 mph slower than I would have been if I'd been on the road bike.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: döm on June 30, 2016, 23:42:03 PM
Managed in a drier interlude to get out and do the few miles to get me to 500 miles for June. Ah, 500 miles, a good British distance. Any old foreign pissant  peasant on a sit up and beg could do 500km a month, but miles is so much more fulfilling :)

Took the hybrid out as  the weather was inclement. By 'eck, all my marginal gains disappeared! It was like cycling through treacle. I was a good 1.5 mph slower than I would have been if I'd been on the road bike.

500 miles is very impressive, Nick - well done.  Still I think 800kms sounds better!

Lots of stuff means my cycling time is very limited at the moment and I'll be under 550kms for the month.  I'm away for the first week of July too so you can take your pick for that time. 0kms or 0miles.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on July 01, 2016, 09:18:36 AM
I', up to 3070 Miles for the year, had a very quiet June, but have a couple of long sportives in July to do which will bump the figures up a bit
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on July 01, 2016, 11:14:40 AM
Only 379 for June for me, I've been in Southampton and bikeless since Sunday. Back up to the E Mids later and hoping to get the July campaign off to a decent start over the weekend, though unfortunately I have to come back here for a few days on Sunday afternoon. But the weather forecast here looks a bit more promising so I may stuff a bike into the back of the car.

Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on July 02, 2016, 11:54:26 AM
And after more than a week off imposed by unaccommodating weather and an unwanted sojourn in Southampton, I went out for a slightly extended version of the Packington Pentagon taking in Ashby, 14.93 miles. Blowy out there but warm enough in the sun after the first couple of miles. Doesn't feel terribly summery though.

Seemed to be threatening rain by the time I was a mile or so from home or I might have stayed out a bit longer. I'd taken the hybrid anyway just in case.

I was quite surprised to have set a new PR for Alton Hill, but on closer inspection it's a different segment than the one I usually do of the same name, that starts on the way out of Ashby.

https://www.strava.com/activities/627324027 (https://www.strava.com/activities/627324027)
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nick on July 02, 2016, 13:03:36 PM
Lashing down here , so watching the first stage of the TDF.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on July 02, 2016, 15:48:29 PM
Managed 4.62 miles today.
Popped up to my dad's to see him and my brother to make sure we all knew were we were with putting mother's financial affairs in order. Got there in one dry slot. Came back in another dry slot, but the roads certainly weren't. Wasn't much fun with a backpack full of ring-binders with a cross wind either.
Decided to not bother going out again, weather is now lovely, but for how long?
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on July 02, 2016, 19:38:51 PM
I give up on using the rainfall radar as an indication as to whether or not I should go out. I thought I'd get an hour and a half dry slot. Ten minutes before it started, big, cold raindrops blown straight in my face. I turned round and came home. Quickly. I picked up my first KOM on the way back. If you can have a KOM going downhill. It's not that much downhill though. Honest.
Apart from the wind, the weather is now bloody lovely. Arsebiscuits. >:(

https://www.strava.com/activities/627817542
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on July 02, 2016, 20:52:45 PM
I went out later in the afternoon on a very enjoyable route that I made up as I went along, albeit from familiar roads. Very nice out there, I'd wrapped up warm though and shouldn't have. 16.67. Would be nice to get another 400 in this month, then I'd be on course for 4000 in 2016 based on my usual monthly targets.

https://www.strava.com/activities/627898756
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on July 02, 2016, 23:58:32 PM
Well done to Cav today, getting his first yellow jersey :)
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on July 03, 2016, 20:33:25 PM
Went out this afternoon to fill in a gap on my Strava Heatmap, my Cycle Derby Sportive sat out on its own unconnected to all my other cycling, so off I popped down to Kedleston Hall. A nice little trip of 61.79 miles with 4,032 feet of climbing. A reasonable amount of climbing to say I only touched the foothills of the Peak District. The old legs certainly felt it after 30 miles or so, but they got round. Don't know whether it was the new tyres, but I set a few PBs on the way out without even trying. Which was nice.
I passed a couple of cyclists on my way out, about five miles in to my ride. I found them on Strava Flyby, they'd been out from Nottinghamshire to cross the Snake Pass. No wonder I went by them!

https://www.strava.com/activities/628964108

(http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u55/Nickslikk2112/heatmap_zpsavub0bbp.jpg)
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on July 03, 2016, 21:57:25 PM
Went out on the expanded version of the Packington Pentagon before lunch, nice and warm out there. 13.6 miles.

https://www.strava.com/activities/629077606

A few hours and a 154 mile drive later, I extricated the hybrid from the back of the car in the hotel car park, attached the front wheel and set off to explore Southern Parts.

I'd had a glance at Google Maps in my hotel room but still managed to get lost, so was happy when the customer premises loomed into view - an easily memorable 1.5 mile route from the hotel. From there I found a nice long and easily navigable road heading north through farm land to a village called Fair Oak, where I turned back.

Found my way back to the customer site alright, but despite having driven to the hotel from there four times last week without any trouble, I got lost and had to resort to Google Maps on my phone.

Anyway a somewhat suburban route in part, but enjoyable enough, a nice change and 16.21 miles clocked up.

https://www.strava.com/activities/629077614

61 miles done in July.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on July 04, 2016, 09:56:28 AM
Went out yesterday morning still drunk as a skunk from a gin party the night before.

I don't recommend it......
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on July 04, 2016, 20:39:54 PM
Removed the hybrid from its temporary garage in the back of the car again, put the front wheel back on and set off on a route I'd only vaguely planned from looking at Google Maps earlier. I carefully memorised every turn, planning to come back the same way - but after an hour or so, I realised I was only a couple of miles from the hotel. Which made navigating back easier of course, but I now had to contend with the temptation of a beer in the hotel bar instead of staying out for another ten miles.

I did the decent thing and continued to explore. Some nice scenery but a lot of busy B roads and traffic.

https://www.strava.com/activities/630154913

20.99 miles.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on July 05, 2016, 20:53:48 PM
Out on the hybrid again after work, and did 24.21 miles in the warm Southamptonshire sunshine. Pedalled southwards this time, down past picturesque marinas and yacht harbours where the Hamble meets Southampton Water. Was slightly wary about getting lost as I hadn't brought a Google Maps capable device with me, but I kept it simple and retraced my route without any trouble. Once I neared the hotel again I headed north along the same route as Sunday night, then back.

106 miles this month now, pleased enough with that though it would be more if I was at home.

https://www.strava.com/activities/631230721

Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on July 05, 2016, 22:16:04 PM
The legs weren't really sure that they were up to going out tonight, but the mind forced them out and the legs ended up admitting that they enjoyed it.
I'm not sure if the new tyres are bedding in a bit now, but that was the quickest time I've done on that circuit despite there being a bit of a headwind on the downhill and flat sections, plus a rather slow Fiat Punto held me up. The setting sun in the NW didn't help either, I couldn't tell where I was in relation to the kerb or roadside verges.
Still, 26.17 miles tonight, 102 for July and 1,807 for the year.

https://www.strava.com/activities/631263246
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on July 06, 2016, 21:02:40 PM
Another fine Hampshire evening so I wrestled the hybrid from the back of the car again and set off on a nice direct route, up to the M3 near Shawford, where I turned to head back to the hotel. On a whim though I turned left toward a place called Bishop's Waltham, and the road there turned out to be so pleasant and level that I thought I'd exploit its innate lack of hilliness to clock up a few miles. Turned back at Bishop's Waltham and had clocked up 28.04 by the time I got back. Will do that one again tomorrow evening I think.

135 this month.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on July 06, 2016, 22:24:36 PM
Being as my intention is to cycle over to the Cat and Fiddle to see the Men's Tour of Britain come by, I thought it was time to start a bit more hill training, therefore I set out to do the Cat 3 climb out of Cutthorpe out to East Moor, then Beeley Moor as a starter. Think I'll watch it on the telly...
Then again, maybe it isn't the best idea to set out half an hour after a Thai curry and a big Naan bread, but one has to make the most of these Summer evenings. Of course what comes up must come down so it was a nice blast back down from Beeley Moor into the glories of beautiful downtown Chez Vegas.
It was nice to see lots of other cyclists out today, especially as they were going the other way to me, so didn't come by me on the climbs :)

https://www.strava.com/activities/632415035
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on July 07, 2016, 09:39:39 AM
Went straight from work and got my feeding strategy completely wrong ie I didn't eat before I set off! had a couple of gels in my back pocket which thankfully saved me a bit, but got to the 40 mile mark and faded very badly.

Not sure Mrs Miller knew what to say when she asked how my ride was, and I said I had a bonk at 40 miles.....

https://www.strava.com/activities/632405098
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on July 07, 2016, 09:45:01 AM
I'll be back home tomorrow evening. Rain forecast for Saturday, and 41mph winds for Sunday. Thanks!
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on July 07, 2016, 09:54:25 AM
Rule #9 James, rule #9.....

http://www.velominati.com/the-rules/

Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on July 07, 2016, 22:08:24 PM
The legs threatened a mutiny today, they just didn't want to do what I'd planned for them, so, for once I compromised. They still ended up doing a bit more than they wanted to :)
I think that I might just be suffering a bit from the cold which is making the office at work sound like a TB clinic, as my nose was streaming like a running tap. The strap on my helmet felt like slugs had been playing on it when I got home.
Managed to get in the 20 miles I wanted to do, but fell 400 feet short on the climbing I wanted. Ho-hum.

https://www.strava.com/activities/633503909/overview

Oh, and chapeau to Cav for his third win of the TdF :)

Another oh, rules schmules, I have a dinky little bag of bits under my saddle.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: pdw1 on July 08, 2016, 00:21:27 AM
https://www.strava.com/activities/633503909/overview (https://www.strava.com/activities/633503909/overview)

Oh, and chapeau to Cav for his third win of the TdF :)

And up to 2nd in the all time list :o
super chapeau Cav
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: döm on July 08, 2016, 08:55:02 AM
And up to 2nd in the all time list :o
super chapeau Cav

Cav is a brilliant sprinter, maybe the best ever but he will never be the cyclist that Hinault was
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: andyhaines on July 08, 2016, 12:32:36 PM
Another fine Hampshire evening so I wrestled the hybrid from the back of the car again and set off on a nice direct route, up to the M3 near Shawford, where I turned to head back to the hotel. On a whim though I turned left toward a place called Bishop's Waltham, and the road there turned out to be so pleasant and level that I thought I'd exploit its innate lack of hilliness to clock up a few miles. Turned back at Bishop's Waltham and had clocked up 28.04 by the time I got back. Will do that one again tomorrow evening I think.

135 this month.
Hi Slim.
 
There are some lovely quiet country lanes around there...and if you keep north on the main road you eventually pass Marwell Zoo. I'd recommend The Crown Inn in Bishop's Waltham...not cheap, but a lovely pub with great food...and Peroni on tap!  8)
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: andyhaines on July 08, 2016, 12:41:26 PM
a lovely pub with great food...and Peroni on tap!  8)

Which might be why my rides back from Bishop's Waltham never match the performance of my rides out there...
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on July 08, 2016, 19:30:52 PM
Back in Leicestershire and out on the Boardman again though it was a tad blowy. I did the expanded version of the Packington Pentagon, sexed up a bit by a couple of miles and back along the 25 mile route. I did contemplate doing the whole thing but decided it was too windy, disregarding rule #9, and after driving 151 miles I didn't particularly feel like it.

17.01, 152 this month. 2421 done this year and I'm going to try to hit my 2015 total before the end of the month (2702).
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on July 08, 2016, 19:53:28 PM
A doff of the old Chapeau to Steve Cummings :)

RULE BRITANNIA
BRITANNIA RULES THE HILLS
WE'RE LEAVING EUROPE
AND ITS SCLEROTIC ILLS!

No more cycling 'til Sunday afternoon for me, as I'm off to the foreign climes of London.

Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Bez on July 08, 2016, 23:49:03 PM
A doff of the old Chapeau to Steve Cummings :)


Indeed, a great tour for Dimension Data and the Brits so far....
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on July 09, 2016, 09:11:29 AM
Hi Slim.
 
There are some lovely quiet country lanes around there...and if you keep north on the main road you eventually pass Marwell Zoo. I'd recommend The Crown Inn in Bishop's Waltham...not cheap, but a lovely pub with great food...and Peroni on tap!  8)

Oh I've just seen this Andy, didn't realise I was in your part of the world! I did enjoy that ride toward Bishop's Waltham, unfortunately I didn't get another chance for a ride out before I left yesterday.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: pdw1 on July 09, 2016, 21:51:29 PM
And today chapeau Froome
down hill all the way!
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on July 09, 2016, 22:29:53 PM
A windy evening but it had stopped raining, so I went out at about 5:30pm. Took the hybrid to dodge the puddles but the roads had dried out nicely, it was actually quite warm out there. I started to do the expanded version of the 25 mile route but on a whim took a left to go through Congerstone. I'd driven that road a few times years ago but had never been along there on my bike - must do it more often, it's perfect for cycling; quiet and secluded.

I stopped for a wee at the Bilstone Gibbet Post (http://www.weddingtoncastle.co.uk/the-bilstone-gibbet-post.html), not actually urinating on the post itself of course.

22.68 miles, 175 this month. Hope to get that up to 200 tomorrow; the weather forecast for Sunday looks a lot less brutal than it did earlier in the week.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on July 10, 2016, 14:02:21 PM
Just had a very nice 29.9 miles run out. I set off without a particular plan, and decided once I'd passed through Coleorton to go to Swarkestone Bridge and back. But after the bridge, I pressed on another few miles to the outskirts of Derby, then turned back. Decided to come back through Ticknall and Hartshorne rather than the same way back, since I'd done that route, albeit the other way round, a couple of months back. I couldn't actually remember the way and couldn't get a decent signal for Google Maps so it was a bit of an adventure, but with the help of the road signage I found my way to Hartshorn and after that it was a doddle.

https://www.strava.com/activities/636226886

The southern end of Swarkestone Bridge, which is a historic monument of course, seems to have suffered some collision damage recently. I expect it's been hit quite a few times since the invention of the motor car. I trust they'll be able to repair it. Local legend has it that late at night, you can hear the sound of Bonnie Prince Charlie's horses galloping across it.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on July 10, 2016, 18:44:10 PM
And today chapeau Froome
down hill all the way!
I thought about attempting some Froomeroid style descending today. I thought better of it...

Even though the old legs were aching from pounding the streets of London, I got out for a couple of hours. I was only intending to do 30 miles, but the legs were happy to do 40. I don't know why, because the breeze was quite fresh today, almost to pedalling to stand still strength at times, but it did help on other bits, so I won't moan. Too much...

https://www.strava.com/activities/636628325
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: döm on July 10, 2016, 19:37:09 PM
Nice to get out after the 10 day break. Did 50kms with a friend including the Hill Of tara. Tough at times with the wind and the rain. 2 weeks today I'll be doing 100kms through the hillier stretches of Meath round Slane.  Should be fun!
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on July 11, 2016, 22:19:32 PM
Went out at lunchtime and did one of the usual lunch break routes. Irritated by a persistent headwind in the first half, but it helped push me up Alton Hill on the way back. 13.18 miles. Warm out there.

https://www.strava.com/activities/637845771

Just after 9pm I went out again. Nice and quiet at that time of night, and a fair bit cooler. Took the hybrid as it has lights attached, but was back before it was very dark. Went into Coalville and back, then up Heather Lane and back for a bit. 8.28 miles.

https://www.strava.com/activities/637845758

Now on 226 miles this month,  2496 this year. Hope I can get another 300 in this month.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on July 12, 2016, 22:19:55 PM
Went out for a quick 27 miles tonight. A bit late setting off as I was half an hour late home due to a German lorry breaking down on the M1 and blocking a lane. Sooner we clear these foreigners off the better.
Basically I did the same as last Tuesday at a slightly higher speed - 19 vs 18.9 mph - than last week, it would have been better but for getting stuck behind a tractor. Thankfully it was cloudy today so no being blinded by the low sun. It's certainly getting harder to set PBs on Strava segments now, not without really busting a gut to do so - and I'm not doing that thank you very much!

https://www.strava.com/activities/638890576
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Bez on July 13, 2016, 09:16:01 AM
Loving the TdF although the past couple of stages have been a bit dull...

Ventoux tomorrow  :)
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on July 13, 2016, 09:36:43 AM
Yep. Enjoying the ITV highlights. Europsport highlights are very dull, and I cant understand a word Roche says (what is a Pelatoooooooone?)

David Miller is a decent commentator too, and Imlach and Boardman are good anchors.

Yesterday was a bit of a procession for the pelaton, but I really enjoyed the Peter Sagan love in/worship fest. I imagine he was probably fairly miffed after having literally driven the whole stage off his own back, he got pipped at the line by the Aussie.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on July 13, 2016, 15:33:11 PM
Went out and did the Truncated Top Brand, though I took a right down Bull Hill and through Worthington, hadn't been that way for a few months. Felt cold out there for the first couple of miles, but I warmed up nicely in the sun.

https://www.strava.com/activities/639610871

14.79 miles, more later I hope.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on July 13, 2016, 17:02:53 PM
Team Sky and Froome throwing in surprises at every stage now!

Sagan must have hit some proper form the last couple of days too
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on July 13, 2016, 21:14:02 PM
Is the Tour de France on again? Must admit I have no interest at all in cycling as a spectator sport.

Anyway - I've planned a route to Northamptonshire, which is the last remaining unconquered neighbouring county - about 62 miles there and back. And at about 5:45pm I set out to do the first ten miles or so, to Desford, and back the same way. Quite a nice little run out, accompanied by the comings and goings at Downing Street reported on 5 Live. Nice to do something new although I'd already done most of it on trips to Markfield. Maybe I can get out and do the whole thing at the weekend.

19.91 miles, 261 miles done this month now.

https://www.strava.com/activities/639981596
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Bez on July 13, 2016, 22:15:16 PM
Team Sky and Froome throwing in surprises at every stage now!

Sagan must have hit some proper form the last couple of days too

Fantastic stuff today....watched the last 20k live....

They've truncated tomorrow's stage though due to 120kph winds at the top of Ventoux.... :(
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on July 13, 2016, 22:19:23 PM
Yesterday was a bit of a procession for the pelaton, but I really enjoyed the Peter Sagan love in/worship fest. I imagine he was probably fairly miffed after having literally driven the whole stage off his own back, he got pipped at the line by the Aussie.
Funny feller Sagan, I can imagine him being miffed a lot. If he could climb as well nobody else would get a look in!
I've been watching the TdF highlights ever since C4 started to show them. Like Yorkshire, France is a nice looking place, but just a shame about the inhabitants...

Decided to take tomorrow afternoon off to watch it live, only to find it's been shortened :(

I can understand people not being into Cycling as a spectator sport - blink and you miss them - but the highlights are good to watch and I always use a tour passing near me as an excuse to get out on the bike. Because the women's tour of Britain came to Chesterfield and most of the competitors are on Strava, I can now compare myself to them on local segments. I don't compare very well :(

A bit late getting out again tonight, but I still got 23 miles in. I decided to do the run up the Col de Wigley, third time this year and I get slower every time, it's changes in wind direction. That's my excuse. It's nice going back downhill into Chez Vegas though, but I've still not managed to hit 50 mph on the way back in though. A bit chilly though at only 10C my little toes were like ice blocks.

https://www.strava.com/activities/639990482
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on July 14, 2016, 10:54:55 AM
The ITV4 highlights are a joy, both technically, and for some of the beautiful scenery they show

Did 55 miles last night at a very gentle pace, 16.8 average, but enjoyed it and felt very strong at the end. Good prep for the weekend which will be a challenge
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on July 14, 2016, 16:03:32 PM
Dude, WTF?

Absolute chaos.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on July 14, 2016, 21:24:24 PM
Did one of my usual routes on a late lunch break, through Heather, Burgoland, Packington. 13.17 miles. Blowy again, seems to be a constant feature of the weather now.

https://www.strava.com/activities/640968555 (https://www.strava.com/activities/640968555)

After work, out again. I set off with no route or plan in mind other than doing 20 miles before I came home. Set off in the direction of Heather and along Newton Road as I had a couple of hours earlier, but this time I turned down toward Odstone, then explored a new road between Barton in the Beans and Bilstone - that turned out to be really nice, a very quiet road with a decent surface through a lightly wooded area.  Continued down to the Gibbet Post, then turned north to Shackerstone and back to Swepstone. Only ended up doing 19.5 miles, though.

https://www.strava.com/activities/640968581 (https://www.strava.com/activities/640968581)

293 this month, 2563 this year. Would be pleased to get that up to 2800 by the end of the month. Because then 300 in August, 250 in Sept, 250 in Oct, 200 in November and 200 in December will take me to 4000. Merry Christmas.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on July 14, 2016, 22:08:33 PM
Did 55 miles last night at a very gentle pace
Doing a decent distance at a slow pace is supposed to be good for you. I keep trying to do it, but I'm obsessed with doing everything faster than I've done before.

I had thought about doing a similar ride to last night, just with a different hill to get up to the moors, but instead did a ride of the same length - 23 miles- with about the same amount of climbing - ~1,600 feet - but spread over several short sharp hills, not one long one. I'm hopeless at gauging how well I'm doing on Strava segments, I thought I'd set some PBs tonight only to find I was well off the pace, then I set PBs on segments where I was supposed to be relaxing. Maybe relaxation is the key...

https://www.strava.com/activities/641057715
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Bez on July 15, 2016, 08:04:32 AM
Dude, WTF?

Absolute chaos.

Great TV though !

Quintana looks like he doesn't have it in his legs to threaten Froome...

Time trial today which should see an increase in his lead...
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: andyhaines on July 15, 2016, 11:40:57 AM
Great TV though !

Quintana looks like he doesn't have it in his legs to threaten Froome...

Time trial today which should see an increase in his lead...
Yes, Quintana getting dropped by Froome and Porte seems to have been overlooked in al the hullabaloo surrounding the crash.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: andyhaines on July 15, 2016, 11:41:41 AM
The ITV4 highlights are a joy, both technically, and for some of the beautiful scenery they show

Did 55 miles last night at a very gentle pace, 16.8 average
That's a good pace for me!   :-[ :P :D
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on July 15, 2016, 11:44:28 AM
Yes, Quintana getting dropped by Froome and Porte seems to have been overlooked in al the hullabaloo surrounding the crash.

Footage of him getting a tow from a motorbike yesterday as well

ITV also shows some of the team in light blue (astana?) flirting with the rules with the support car after a bike change. The "referee" on the motorbike blowing his warning whistle a lot!
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on July 15, 2016, 22:41:51 PM
Intended to go out at lunchtime but hadn't got more than a few feet out of the back door before I noticed it was raining slightly. So I turned round and went back in the house. Attempted a run out again this evening, and this time although it was spotting with rain very lightly, I decided it would probably pass, and it did, within a couple of minutes. However I took the hybrid in case it didn't. Actually quite warm out there, was quite comfortable in short sleeves and shorts.

I did one of the expanded versions of the Packington Pentagon.

https://www.strava.com/activities/642065444

14.89, 308 this month.

Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on July 16, 2016, 18:42:12 PM
Once again I was later going out than planned, due to sorting out my old father's bank fraud and it being the boy's 18th birthday.
Then when I set off it started spitting with rain, but I manned up and carried on ending up doing 50.5 miles at a gentle pace of 18.2 mph. Well, the last 30 miles were a gentle pace after I'd managed 20 miles in the first hour, oh the joys of a following wind! I made a decision after that to steady down and not let the old heart rate go over 140, which was a bit of a struggle whenever the road went uphill, but almost manageable.

That's now taken me past 2,000 miles for the year.

https://www.strava.com/activities/642964540
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: andyhaines on July 17, 2016, 14:37:54 PM
That's a good pace for me!   :-[ :P :D
Mmm, my Autupause on Strava seems a bit shit. I generally only use Srava for longer rides, where I usually stop for a drink and/or food. I stopped today and my average pace was around 17.5, Autopause kicked in, but when I got back on my bike my average pace was down to 15mph. Might explain why my average pace usually seems a bit shit, even when making a lot of PRs. Nothing to do with the Peroni, obviously...
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on July 17, 2016, 18:59:16 PM
Back from a jaunt out to the Moors above Chesterfield. It was hard work into a headwind today, I feel well jiggered. Once you're up on the Moors, the wind seems to get funnelled round and come from all directions. Hence my average pace being down from 18 to 17 mph, but when I first did this ride in April I only averaged 16, so things are still on the upward trajectory :)
There seemed to be an awful lot of old bearded men riding touring bikes out today. Most strange, maybe they have a convention somewhere...

https://www.strava.com/activities/644225415
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on July 17, 2016, 20:20:13 PM
Set off at 0910-ish with the intention of cycling over the Northamptonshire border and back, to complete my set of neighbouring counties. Fairly pleasant route there, although a bit urban on the southern fringes of Leicester (where I got lost slightly, but recovered quickly with the aid of Google Maps once again).

I had a bit of a ride around over the border, went into Welford and had lunch on a pleasant wooden bench in the village.

I took far too much food and liquid - there were plenty of petrol stations and pubs where I could have bought them on the go.  But the strawberry-flavoured energy chews I'd bought at Tesco, while slightly sickly and jellied-fruit-ish, certainly seemed to keep me going.

(http://truth.justdied.com/images/nampt.jpg)

I took a different route back along the A4303 and A5, and that was a bit of a mistake, really. The traffic was light and I didn't feel unsafe, but miles of brutal A road, some of it dual carriageway, is not really a lot of fun for a cyclist. Still, the surface was fairly smooth and the bike ate up the miles quickly.

By the time I'd got through Hinckley on the way to Bosworth though, things were completely different - beautiful secluded country lanes and quiet villages, and almost no traffic. I was having such a nice time again, my legs felt weirdly bionic like they'd keep going forever and it was still early in the afternoon - so I thought I'd see if I could stay out for 100. I took a left to Sibson and proceeded homewards by a mostly made-up-as-I-went-along, preposterous route designed to make progress toward home in a grossly inefficient manner, to clock up the miles.

I didn't pick a great day to do this. Although the morning was cloudy, the afternoon sun was punishing and there wasn't much shade. Still, I stuck it out, taking a break at a friendly pub near Twycross, and by the time I finally homed in on the garage door, I'd done 101.42 miles. And I now have stunning tan lines.

My GPS watch started to run out of juice after 49 miles, so I stopped it to preserve what I had and continued with the Strava app on my phone. That worked well enough and I was able to combine the tracks using this site: http://gotoes.org/strava/Combine_GPX_TCX_FIT_Files.php (http://gotoes.org/strava/Combine_GPX_TCX_FIT_Files.php)

.. but it certainly was annoying not to be able to see my progress at a glance after the phone took over. Will take a second GPS watch next time I do a long route (though I may never do 100+ again).

Anyway - a very welcome boost to my current monthly tally which now stands at 410 miles.

https://www.strava.com/activities/644320014 (https://www.strava.com/activities/644320014)
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on July 17, 2016, 23:24:36 PM
Just seen that Chris Boardman's mum has died after a hit and run in North Wales whilst out cycling. Hit by a pick up truck. If I had my way all drivers of these vile American Abominations would be rounded up and gassed in a sack like Badgers.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on July 18, 2016, 09:50:16 AM
https://www.strava.com/activities/642798357#kudos

Did the Stratford Tempest sportive on Saturday, very satisfying ride, lovely villages and countryside, and some challenging sections. Hot as well!

One of those strange rides where the wind always seemed to be against you as well, which is obviously bollocks, but it did seem that way
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on July 18, 2016, 15:27:46 PM
It's scorching hot out there, not sure if it's wise to go out on the bike for an hour.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on July 18, 2016, 16:56:18 PM
It's scorching hot out there, not sure if it's wise to go out on the bike for an hour.

You will be fine, sun cream and plenty of water
The breeze will cool you nicely. I'm going later, but at about 8pm, so while it will be scorchio, there will be very little direct sun
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on July 18, 2016, 17:16:42 PM
Well I left it until about 3:45pm so a rather late lunch, but I did go out and do one of the regular lunchtime routes through Heather and Packington. The road was closed out of Packington so I took a detour home back through Heather.

Bloody warm out there, but I did get a bit of shade here and there from trees and passing clouds. First time I've taken a water bottle on one of these 10-15 mile trips, but I'm glad I did.

Thought my old legs might complain after clocking up a century yesterday, but they were fine. I think I'm seeing the benefits of having led a mostly sedentary and idle life, like an old car with a low mileage.

I was nearly killed between Heather and Packington. As I pedalled round a gentle curve to the left, a car  appeared round the bend, coming toward me on the wrong side of the road at high speed and missed me by a bit more than a foot. In an attempt to express my disappointment I shouted YOU F***ING IDIOT to the driver, a girl in her early twenties with her right arm suspended nonchalantly out of the driver side window. There was no particular reason for her to be on the wrong side of the road, she wasn't overtaking anything. Perhaps she wanted to save a few petrol molecules by cutting the corner. If I'd been in a car instead of on the bike there would most certainly have been a nasty head-on collision. Weird.

https://www.strava.com/activities/645176692

14.27 done, 424 this month.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on July 18, 2016, 17:23:40 PM
probably out looking for Pokemon
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on July 18, 2016, 17:36:08 PM
A pic from yesterday. taken with about 20 miles to go. The Ashby canal, near Shackerstone

(http://truth.justdied.com/images/canal.jpg)

(https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13775793_10155218439158438_2633249306068064709_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: döm on July 18, 2016, 19:05:19 PM
Great pic Slim and fair play on the 100miles (160kms!). I did a 17km spin today that I often do after work. Glorious sunshine but the Heat really affected my speed.  All my Strava segments were down to levels normally associated with strong head winds. Hopefully it won't be this hot on Sunday for the 100k. Just hit 200kms for the month and 2385 for the year.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on July 18, 2016, 21:46:51 PM
My legs were complaining after 90 miles over two days, but I don't cycle Mondays now anyway to give the legs a rest as a matter of course. I think I've depleted my glycogen reserves too much, I weighed myself on Saturday and I'm down to 11 stone 3, that's a bit low for my 6'2" frame I think.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on July 18, 2016, 22:58:46 PM
30 degrees and unrelenting sun forecast for tomorrow. I don't actually own any sun screen and have literally never used it in my adult life, because I tan easily and very rarely burn. But I'm thinking I should probably steal some of 'er indoors' supply if I go out tomorrow. I have over-exposed myself this last couple of days and my arms do feel slightly sore.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on July 19, 2016, 09:26:55 AM
Wonderful picture Slimmers, I love England at its best
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on July 19, 2016, 20:46:39 PM
Thanks for the nice comments, chaps.

Went out straight after work and did one of many possible variations of the Saturday 25 miler, weighing in this evening at 23.95 miles. Far too warm out there and a bit blowy as well, felt like I was pedalling into a hairdryer. Mercifully a bit of cloud cover came over after the first 20 minutes to shield me from the sun, but it stayed very warm.

I don't remember hot weather being such a hindrance last year - I remember some warm, pleasant days, but nothing so punishing. I was out of the country for a week or two in July though, so perhaps I missed the equivalent weather in 2015.

Speaking of 2015 - I have just surpassed last year's total, which was  2702 miles.  2718 miles done this year. Will be happy to get that over 2800 by the end of the month.
Just tried to upload to Strava, but the site seems very busy at the moment.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on July 19, 2016, 22:15:48 PM
Did the same as last Tuesday albeit slightly less distance now the nights are drawing in, but it was much harder work tonight in the heat - 25C as against 11C last week - so it knocked 0.5 mph off the average speed. The breeze had no effect for cooling, it was like being in a fan oven. I drank a 750ml bottle of water on the way round, I've done 75 miles before and not drunk that much!
Certainly not a day for Personal Records on Strava, I managed two personal third best times on segments in the first 17 miles, but because the wind was a tail wind on the homeward run, I targeted one segment for a PB and got it, but by 'eck it nearly killed me! I did manage three more PBs but that was more down to lack of traffic for once rather than me hammering down.

I think there was only one day last year that was as warm and sticky as this, the first of July if I recall correctly. I'm glad there weren't as many flies about today as last year I came home coated in them.

https://www.strava.com/activities/646623399
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Slim on July 20, 2016, 09:12:56 AM
I think there was only one day last year that was as warm and sticky as this, the first of July if I recall correctly.

That makes sense, I was in Montenegro at the time. Looking forward to the rain later.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on July 20, 2016, 09:18:05 AM
sounds like you are not drinking enough on rides nick. 750ml on a 75 mile ride even in the winter is so little its ridiculous
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: zoony on July 20, 2016, 11:05:15 AM
Any views, or experience of the GTECH bicycle? Looks like my type of machine.
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: andyhaines on July 20, 2016, 11:53:09 AM
Set off at 0910-ish with the intention of cycling over the Northamptonshire border and back, to complete my set of neighbouring counties. Fairly pleasant route there, although a bit urban on the southern fringes of Leicester (where I got lost slightly, but recovered quickly with the aid of Google Maps once again).

I had a bit of a ride around over the border, went into Welford and had lunch on a pleasant wooden bench in the village.

I took far too much food and liquid - there were plenty of petrol stations and pubs where I could have bought them on the go.  But the strawberry-flavoured energy chews I'd bought at Tesco, while slightly sickly and jellied-fruit-ish, certainly seemed to keep me going.

(http://truth.justdied.com/images/nampt.jpg)

I took a different route back along the A4303 and A5, and that was a bit of a mistake, really. The traffic was light and I didn't feel unsafe, but miles of brutal A road, some of it dual carriageway, is not really a lot of fun for a cyclist. Still, the surface was fairly smooth and the bike ate up the miles quickly.

By the time I'd got through Hinckley on the way to Bosworth though, things were completely different - beautiful secluded country lanes and quiet villages, and almost no traffic. I was having such a nice time again, my legs felt weirdly bionic like they'd keep going forever and it was still early in the afternoon - so I thought I'd see if I could stay out for 100. I took a left to Sibson and proceeded homewards by a mostly made-up-as-I-went-along, preposterous route designed to make progress toward home in a grossly inefficient manner, to clock up the miles.

I didn't pick a great day to do this. Although the morning was cloudy, the afternoon sun was punishing and there wasn't much shade. Still, I stuck it out, taking a break at a friendly pub near Twycross, and by the time I finally homed in on the garage door, I'd done 101.42 miles. And I now have stunning tan lines.

My GPS watch started to run out of juice after 49 miles, so I stopped it to preserve what I had and continued with the Strava app on my phone. That worked well enough and I was able to combine the tracks using this site: http://gotoes.org/strava/Combine_GPX_TCX_FIT_Files.php (http://gotoes.org/strava/Combine_GPX_TCX_FIT_Files.php)

.. but it certainly was annoying not to be able to see my progress at a glance after the phone took over. Will take a second GPS watch next time I do a long route (though I may never do 100+ again).

Anyway - a very welcome boost to my current monthly tally which now stands at 410 miles.

https://www.strava.com/activities/644320014 (https://www.strava.com/activities/644320014)

Good effort James...well done!
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: andyhaines on July 20, 2016, 11:57:37 AM
My legs were complaining after 90 miles over two days, but I don't cycle Mondays now anyway to give the legs a rest as a matter of course. I think I've depleted my glycogen reserves too much, I weighed myself on Saturday and I'm down to 11 stone 3, that's a bit low for my 6'2" frame I think.
That's pretty light, Nick. Over the last couple of years as my cycle commute has increased (and I've become a veggie), I've steadily dropped from 12 and-a-half stone down to a fairly constant 11st 10lbs - I'm sometimes a few pounds below or above. I was up around 13st about 7 years ago when I was still playing rugby regularly.
 
Can't see me losing too much more due to the fact that I like red wine and cheese too much.    ;D
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: DavidL on July 20, 2016, 13:47:52 PM
Any views, or experience of the GTECH bicycle? Looks like my type of machine.
My view.........buy a motorcycle!
Title: Re: Cycling - 2
Post by: Jonners on July 20, 2016, 14:19:41 PM
Any views, or experience of the