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Title: Van Halen
Post by: Andy42g on December 07, 2010, 16:10:03 pm
I must admit to having a think about the sneakers, and I quite like these flip flops  8)
http://www.vanhalenstore.com/page/VH/CTGY/flip-flops (http://www.vanhalenstore.com/page/VH/CTGY/flip-flops)
Would have to be the red ones.

A new album would be preferable, mind.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: captainkurtz on December 07, 2010, 17:28:14 pm
Stop hawking your shit and give us a new record and tour, for fecks sake.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Xanadu-Princess2112 on December 07, 2010, 23:41:45 pm
Quote from: captainkurtz on December 07, 2010, 17:28:14 pm
Stop hawking your shit and give us a new record and tour, for fecks sake.

haha

Whereas I'd be quite happy if they hakwed more shit and totally forgot about a new record and tour :P

Oh yeah, those flip flops look cool :)
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Andy42g on December 08, 2010, 10:42:59 am
Quote from: Xanadu-Princess2112 on December 07, 2010, 23:41:45 pm
Whereas I'd be quite happy if they hakwed more shit and totally forgot about a new record and tour :P

We obviously need a "The new Van Halen album will be shit" thread.  ::)
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: captainkurtz on December 08, 2010, 10:51:12 am
Quote from: Andy42g on December 08, 2010, 10:42:59 am
We obviously need a "The new Van Halen album will be shit" thread.  ::)

If you're only as good as your last record...............

Van Halen III is absolutely terrible.  (and some of the blame lies with none other than Mr R Daniels).
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Andy42g on December 08, 2010, 11:05:38 am
Quote from: captainkurtz on December 08, 2010, 10:51:12 am
If you're only as good as your last record...............

Van Halen III is absolutely terrible.  (and some of the blame lies with none other than Mr R Daniels).

Yup - it's awful. Mike Post as producer? EVH must have been in serious substance abuse hell at that time.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: captainkurtz on December 08, 2010, 14:00:51 pm
Deaf as a post, more like.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Matt2112 on December 08, 2010, 14:10:01 pm
Yep - bring the synths back.  Brush up on the alternate picking with Michael Angelo Batio.  Record album.  It'll be spectacular. :)
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Dixkot on December 08, 2010, 14:28:11 pm


Can't imaging Sammy would be interested so 2nd rater DLR would spoil the whole thing.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: captainkurtz on December 08, 2010, 14:57:51 pm
Lol, as they say.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Spud on December 08, 2010, 15:30:55 pm
Quote from: Matt2112 on December 08, 2010, 14:10:01 pm
Yep - bring the synths back.  Brush up on the alternate picking with Michael Angelo Batio.  Record album.  It'll be spectacular. :)


Matt retires to his living room! 

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_o6mJh27JxV8/S_7fq-FcSWI/AAAAAAAAAfc/ZB98WTcr9Dg/s1600/172333_nagy_jean_michel_jarre.jpg)
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Matt2112 on December 10, 2010, 09:53:19 am
Quote from: Spud on December 08, 2010, 15:30:55 pm
Matt retires to his living room!


If only!  ;D  I have just the one synth, but it's ample for my very limited playing ability on the keys.  :)
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Andy42g on December 10, 2010, 17:26:17 pm
http://www.vhnd.com/2010/12/09/huge-van-halen-update-van-halens-2011-plans-and-the-truth-behind-the-rumors/

The TRUTH about the Van Halen rumors:
And now for the die-hard fans, the Van Halen News Desk will tackle all the currently widespread rumors and either shoot them down or confirm them as true.

Rumor: Van Halen are working towards finishing recording of a new studio album with David Lee Roth and a single is slated for release before the end of this year.
FALSE. The band starts recording in January.
Rumor: The band will tour extensively in 2011, taking in North America, and likely European and Australian dates.
FALSE. Although a 2011 tour may occur, no such tour is currently planned.
Rumor: Numerous reports about new music coming from the band are true. There is new music recorded with the expectation of an all-new studio album featuring David Lee Roth to be released in 2011. What is not known right now is the time frame for this.
Mostly TRUE. The band has written lots of new music and hopes to complete an album, but a nothing is definite right now.
Rumor: DLR’s vocals are being recorded away from the 5150 studio.
Misleading. This is true, but only in regards to the early demos, not the final recordings. This is what many bands do before entering the studio. The entire band will reconvene in the studio in January.
Rumor: Eddie has recorded most of the bass parts for the album.
FALSE. Eddie might have recorded some of the bass parts for the early demos when Wolfie wasn’t around, as he often did when Michael Anthony was in the band. Wolfgang has been recording demos all year, and he’ll be playing all the bass parts on the finished tracks.
Rumor: There is a deal in place between Warner Bros. and the band for a new album.
FALSE. If a new album is released, it will most likely be a direct deal with Walmart or Best Buy.
Rumor: Van Halen has chosen Ross Hogarth to produce new music.
FALSE. The producer they chose is John Shanks. Hogarth is an engineer rather than a producer, and is not involved with Van Halen whatsoever.
Rumor: Chris Cornell from Soundgarden has recorded some background vocals on some of the new music.
FALSE.
Rumor: A spokeperson for Van Halen recently clarified that the band isn’t doing anything and that there will definitely be no new album or tour next year.
FALSE. A spokeperson for Van Halen did indeed shoot down the recent rumors of a planned tour and an album near completion. He was being honest in doing so, since there is currently neither a tour planned, nor an album near completion. However, he did say that the band is currently “working on stuff”, but gave no further details.
Rumor: The main reason that the band never released a DVD of the 2007-2008 tour was because the band members could not reach a financial agreement over the deal.
FALSE. The reason that it wasn’t released had nothing at all to do with finances. The band simply wasn’t happy enough with the footage and felt that many camera angels weren’t right.
Rumor: Warner Bros is preparing to release Blu-Ray editions of “Live Without a Net” and “Live Right Here Right Now.”
Unknown. We don’t know if this is true or not.
Rumor: Warner Bros is releasing limited edition remastered vinyl releases of Van Halen II, Women And Children First, and 1984 on Dec. 13th, 2010.
True, except for release date. Rhino is releasing the 3 vinyls, but they’ve been pushed back until sometime in early 2011.
Rumor: Warner Bros is preparing to release re-masters of the four Sammy Hagar era Van Halen CDs.
Partially True. Rhino is talking about releasing remasters of the Sammy Hagar era albums, but nothing has been decided yet.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Andy42g on December 10, 2010, 17:30:00 pm
(Producer) John Shanks has worked with Miley Cyrus, Bon Jovi, Keith Urban, Celine Dion, Kelly Clarkson, Sheryl Crow, Santana, Rod Stewart, Melissa Etheridge, Alanis Morissette, Hilary Duff, Train’s Pat Monahan, Fleetwood Mac, Stevie Nicks, Pink, Liz Phair, Jessica Simpson, Ashlee Simpson, Joe Cocker, Bonnie Raitt, and many more.  :-\
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Andy42g on December 10, 2010, 17:37:09 pm
We are excited to learn that the band is re-exploring Eddie’s extensive library of unreleased songs and riffs, even reaching back to their early unreleased demos for added inspiration. The band is retooling and tweaking some of this mostly-unheard, incredible music, which have completely new lyrics from Roth. Eddie is even considering developing a song or two from the material that he wrote for The Wild Life movie score in the mid 1980′s.
Err - I thought you said it was all new stuff? FFS. EVH has spent a career dipping into those old demos from the 70s - all of which we have on bootleg nowadays.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Matt2112 on December 10, 2010, 18:02:12 pm
Encouraging news.  Nice one, Andy, thanks for that. :)
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: captainkurtz on December 10, 2010, 22:42:27 pm
Can't believe they havent even started recording yet.

Shit.

Ted Templeman is still producing - he's the man for the job.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Presto-digitation on January 17, 2011, 22:12:47 pm
I hear they began recording just today.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Andy42g on January 18, 2011, 10:05:52 am
And EVH will be using some nice kit:
http://www.vhnd.com/2011/01/14/namm-video-new-evh-gear/ (http://www.vhnd.com/2011/01/14/namm-video-new-evh-gear/)
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: captainkurtz on January 18, 2011, 10:24:50 am
Ed is sporting an Alex style paunch there.  He looks good - happy and healthy.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Andy42g on January 18, 2011, 10:33:26 am
Quote from: captainkurtz on January 18, 2011, 10:24:50 am
Ed is sporting an Alex style paunch there.  He looks good - happy and healthy.

I thought so too - not quite as gaunt as he has been in the recent past.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Matt2112 on January 18, 2011, 11:35:33 am
Quote from: Andy42g on January 18, 2011, 10:05:52 am
And EVH will be using some nice kit:
http://www.vhnd.com/2011/01/14/namm-video-new-evh-gear/ (http://www.vhnd.com/2011/01/14/namm-video-new-evh-gear/)


I think I've just c*m.  :-X  :-[  :o
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Presto-digitation on January 19, 2011, 00:17:46 am
Quote from: Andy42g on January 18, 2011, 10:33:26 am
I thought so too - not quite as gaunt as he has been in the recent past.


Yes...he looks good.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Andy42g on January 19, 2011, 11:44:11 am
Quote from: Matt2112 on January 18, 2011, 11:35:33 am
I think I've just c*m.  :-X  :-[  :o


(http://www.themusiczoo.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/stealth.jpg)
8)
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: captainkurtz on January 19, 2011, 12:11:48 pm
Should be red with black and White stripes....
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Presto-digitation on January 19, 2011, 16:19:54 pm
Quote from: captainkurtz on January 19, 2011, 12:11:48 pm
Should be red with black and White stripes....


I'm surprised there's not one of those available.  The flamed (maple??) top version is gorgeous:

(http://www.themusiczoo.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/evh.jpg)
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: captainkurtz on January 21, 2011, 19:22:51 pm
Not impressed by the choice of producer - john shanks. Check his resume - huge success but alot of the artists he's worked with are pants - take that? Jesus.

Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Presto-digitation on January 22, 2011, 22:19:43 pm
Quote from: captainkurtz on January 21, 2011, 19:22:51 pm
Not impressed by the choice of producer - john shanks. Check his resume - huge success but alot of the artists he's worked with are pants - take that? Jesus.


The contrast between VH and the bands he produces might be a blessing though.  We're almost predisposed to presume that only the "natural" match ups can bring out an inspired performance.  Sometimes it's the most unlikely of pairings that bear the sweetest fruit.  We'll see.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: captainkurtz on January 22, 2011, 22:44:30 pm
Good point.

Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Matt2112 on January 23, 2011, 22:46:28 pm
Well, I see he's worked with Bon Jovi so VH won't be unfamiliar territory sound-wise.  He's been involved in the writing of a lot of big hits so hopefully there'll be an emphasis on catchy melodies and hooks, a la 1984 and 5150 and OU812 - just the way I like it. ;)  And if Eddie's in a mood to give the whammy bar a good thrashing, we should be in for a corker. :)
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: captainkurtz on January 24, 2011, 00:00:48 am
Quote from: Matt2112 on January 23, 2011, 22:46:28 pm
Well, I see he's worked with Bon Jovi so VH won't be unfamiliar territory sound-wise. 


:o

Bon Jovi are filth.  Wash you're mouth out, sonny jim!
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Matt2112 on January 24, 2011, 11:03:46 am
Quote from: captainkurtz on January 24, 2011, 00:00:48 am
:o

Bon Jovi are filth.  Wash you're mouth out, sonny jim!


;D

Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Andy42g on January 25, 2011, 10:20:05 am
Here we go kids .... http://www.vhnd.com/2011/01/21/producer-john-shanks-confirms-working-with-van-halen/
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Andy42g on January 25, 2011, 10:23:13 am
Great 1979 live footage... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrfWzx8Tn4o&feature=player_embedded
Why on earth aren't there official DVDs of this line up of the band from back in the day?
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Matt2112 on January 25, 2011, 10:35:04 am
Quote from: Andy42g on January 25, 2011, 10:20:05 am
Here we go kids .... http://www.vhnd.com/2011/01/21/producer-john-shanks-confirms-working-with-van-halen/


HOORAH!   8)  Hooks, choruses, riffs, dive bombs and fancy tapping on its way.  Is it too much to hope for some synths?  ;)  ;D
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Andy42g on January 25, 2011, 10:57:32 am
Quote from: Matt2112 on January 25, 2011, 10:35:04 am
HOORAH!   8)  Hooks, choruses, riffs, dive bombs and fancy tapping on its way.  Is it too much to hope for some synths?  ;)  ;D

You can feck off with yer mincing synths - look at the damage they did to Rush.  ;D
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Andy42g on January 26, 2011, 10:08:30 am
Gonna be interesting to see what they come up with. Dave in his 50s can't really do the parties and girls lyrics any more - or can he?
As for producer we'll have to wait and see I guess. Pity Bruce Fairburn's not still around as balance sounded fantastic - or even Glen Ballard as he did a great job on the two then new Dave tracks which appeared on the first 'best of' compilation.
Jeez - that last material they did together was 1996? How time flies....
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Matt2112 on January 26, 2011, 10:25:46 am
Quote from: Andy42g on January 26, 2011, 10:08:30 am
Gonna be interesting to see what they come up with. Dave in his 50s can't really do the parties and girls lyrics any more - or can he?


I think even by the time he did Skyscraper he'd pretty much put that behind him, though his lyrics today might still have that self-aggrandizement of old.

QuoteAs for producer we'll have to wait and see I guess. Pity Bruce Fairburn's not still around as balance sounded fantastic


Totally concur.  Clean and polished, just as radio rock albums should be.  :)

And I stand by my comments on synths.  And Bon Jovi.  :P  ;D
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Andy42g on January 26, 2011, 10:41:22 am
Quote from: Matt2112 on January 26, 2011, 10:25:46 am
I think even by the time he did Skyscraper he'd pretty much put that behind him, though his lyrics today might still have that self-aggrandizement of old.

Looks up aggrandizement.... yup. Yeah - his lyrics have matured with him.

QuoteTotally concur.  Clean and polished, just as radio rock albums should be.  :)

Indeed. 1984 attitude with Balance style producing would do me.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: captainkurtz on January 26, 2011, 10:48:37 am
Happy Birthday Eddie.

56 years young.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Matt2112 on January 26, 2011, 21:53:20 pm
Quite so.  Happy birthday Edward.  Sorry that I keep stealing your licks.  ;)
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Andy42g on January 31, 2011, 13:47:16 pm
VH and Chickenfoot in the studio at the same time. I wonder who's album will surface first?
http://www.vhnd.com/2011/01/28/chickenfoot-begins-recording-new-album/
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Andy42g on May 09, 2011, 13:42:23 pm
(http://www.vhnd.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/FWguitar1.jpg)
Nice guitar. Still no sign of a new album  :(.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: captainkurtz on May 09, 2011, 14:23:06 pm
Was interested to read of the genesis of that record cover - an amazing piece of art.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Presto-digitation on May 10, 2011, 04:38:47 am
Quote from: Andy42g on May 09, 2011, 13:42:23 pm
(http://www.vhnd.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/FWguitar1.jpg)
Nice guitar. Still no sign of a new album  :(.


If they're recording it now?  Fall. 
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Andy42g on May 10, 2011, 17:10:01 pm
Quote from: Presto-digitation on May 10, 2011, 04:38:47 am
If they're recording it now?  Fall.

Last I read they were mixing it and autumn was indeed the release forecast.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Pug on May 11, 2011, 23:43:04 pm
Don't know how official this is - VAN HALEN TO HEADLINE AUSTRALIA'S SOUNDWAVE REVOLUTION MUSIC FESTIVAL. (http://soundwaverevolution.com/)

Dear Eddie & Dave, the Tasman Sea is very small, and I'm sure it would be no great hardship for you to use this opportunity to cross it and come play a couple of dates in New Zealand while you're down this way. Thanks Pug
Well, I can dream, or get on a plane

Timeframe for these Oz dates is September which seems to be in line with a new album
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Matt2112 on May 25, 2011, 00:53:48 am
Very interesting.  Shame my gig budget for the year has been decimated...  ::)  ;)  ;D
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Andy42g on June 09, 2011, 16:30:59 pm
http://www.latimesmagazine.com/2011/06/50-best-la-bands.html

No 15 Van Halen. Click on the link - nice pro shot live footage.
EDIT - lots of good footage of bands in those links. Go Gos - yummy. And Berlin.  8) Mothers of Invention, Beefheart ... etc.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: captainkurtz on June 09, 2011, 18:11:58 pm
The album must be imminent, surely.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Matt2112 on June 30, 2011, 10:15:47 am
VH to headline festival in Oz in September.....!!!  :o  :D  8)

http://www.soundwaverevolution.com/lineup/van-halen (http://www.soundwaverevolution.com/lineup/van-halen)
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: captainkurtz on June 30, 2011, 21:48:49 pm
Quote from: Matt2112 on June 30, 2011, 10:15:47 am
VH to headline festival in Oz in September.....!!!  :o  :D  8)

http://www.soundwaverevolution.com/lineup/van-halen (http://www.soundwaverevolution.com/lineup/van-halen)


That was announced Mid May, old chap.  Do keep up!  ;)
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: captainkurtz on July 03, 2011, 09:29:28 am
www.davidleeroth.com

Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Presto-digitation on July 03, 2011, 18:45:26 pm
I read a 1 July update that Mark Tremonti was played the contents of the new album, sans vocals, and reports that many of the songs were culled from 80s demos and shaped into full songs, ultimately concluding that the music has a distinctly vintage Van Halen sound. 
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: captainkurtz on July 03, 2011, 18:58:48 pm
Its July 4th tomorrow people............
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Matt2112 on July 04, 2011, 13:44:10 pm
Quote from: captainkurtz on June 30, 2011, 21:48:49 pm
That was announced Mid May, old chap.  Do keep up!  ;)


Mid-May, eh?  I was busy, I seem to remember.   But then so were you...  ;) ;D
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Presto-digitation on July 04, 2011, 17:55:11 pm
VAN HALEN - NEW ALBUM RUMOUR ROUND-UP:
Dear rabid Van Halen fans - if you are looking for a factually infallible, dead on, "here are the facts" news update....this ain't it!
But seriously, a news report that does fit that description isn't far away as David Lee Roth tells us to "Get Ready..." (www.davidleeroth.com) and Van Halen actually open up a Facebook page (www.facebook.com/VanHalen). And Alter Bridge/Creed guitarist Mark Tremonti (friend of Wolfgang) starts yakking after sitting in on the trio of Van Halen's playing new songs live in the studio - reporting back that the band used ''old demos for inspiration for new material" (www.vhlinks.com/vbforums/mark-tremonti-new-t52379.html).
Plus the band are also hitting to road for the first time since 2007 with dates in Australia in 10 weeks' time. So we know something's happening right?
Right! But when are we going to really hear something official and when will we hear the first new Van Halen material since 2004 and the first new album with David Lee Roth since 1983? Soon folks....

What we know is that the album is done and mixed...John Shanks finishing production work on it earlier this year (with other producer names likely to appear inside the album credits.) The rumoured album title is VH '11, 2011 (or Two Zero One One to be precise) and all rumours point to a mid/late September release.
A single was again rumoured to hit airwaves this weekend, but failed to happen.
What I have previously stated is that I personally believe the new album will be released in October, after Van Halen return home from Australia and a single could likely appear late this month or in August.

I am hoping to have some more precise information from a source close to official goings on later this week. Stay tuned...


But in the meantime, I was contacted last week by an anonymous source with a summary of rumours and "inside" information they happened to be privy to. Ok....due to the demand from fans wanting to hear about anything Van Halen related to keep them busy while counting down the seconds to hell freezing over (the new album appearing in store), here is a summary of the information I was sent.
This is certainly not being printed as gospel or fact, but merely as yet another in the series of much loved Van Halen Rumor Reports that have been printed over the last decade of this band's colourful history. So with that disclaimer in place....here goes folks....


RUMOUR ROUND UP!

- Eddie Van Halen was apparently prepared to tour again with no new album, reluctant to produce new songs. David Lee Roth and especially Wolfgang Van Halen wanted to record new tracks. Wolfgang Van Halen finally convinced his father that he didn't want to go out on tour to replace Michael Anthony, with no new material and without David Lee Roth's input.

- It is suggested that the music was the main thing in EVH's mind and David Lee Roth was asked only to contribute lyrics.

- Seventeen songs were prepared in demo form. One was an instrumental. Fourteen songs were properly recorded. This includes the instrumental. A couple of tracks are likely to be held over as bonus tracks for various uses. Management are currently negotiating with specialist retailers for a deal to release the album, with these bonus tracks possible to make an appearance if an agreement is reached.
- Because of distributing/promotion matters, the release date of first single is still up in the air, although it will (apparently) 'definitely' happen no later than 2nd week of August. The album is expected to be ready to ship in September. [I still say October...].
- Only two tracks feature keyboards of any type. One is the instrumental which briefly features piano. The other features keyboards in the intro, and 'lightly' in the chorus.

- Although Wolfang Van Halen did not write any of the lyrics to the new album, he had a bass solo he was preparing that he titled "Hurricanes", for which David Lee Roth wrote lyrics with the same working title. It is unclear if this song will be included on the album, but it was recorded in demo-form.

- The album title has not been chosen at this point. Many rumours have surfaced... Two likely working titles may be in the running which are "VH '11" and "Two Zero One One". Rumored titles that have not been officially dismissed by band members however are "Mammoth" and "Play".
This information has surfaced because of proposed artwork for the new album which at this point features a brown circle on a glass table with a silver and red Van Halen logo emblazoned upon it (the circle which looks like an M&M). There is a rumour that the brown circle is supposed to represent both the "Brown Sound" of Van Halen and also the infamous M&M chocolate candy contract rider of years past. The proposed artwork does not show all edges of the circle due to a possible 'infringement' with the candy-maker. Rather the outer edges of the circle are 'cut-off' by the square-edged artwork. The reverse side of the album jacket features all four members standing by a garden like area shot in a sepia tone. This photo and others were taken in May on the grounds of Edward Van Halen's studio, 5150. Inner booklet/lyric sheets photos were also shot in and around 5150. [Not sure about this folks...but I guess we'll know soon enough...]

- Two songs recorded have been selected as singles. One song sounding like an early era Van Halen combination of "Beautiful Girls/Jamie's Crying", and the other song sounding more in the vein of "Unchained"/"Drop Dead Legs" (this one features a very lengthy guitar solo by comparison).

- Although no song titles are 'confirmed' at this point, some of the 'working' song titles were/are: "Hurricanes", "Stop Talking" (which is one of the possible first two singles), "Down This Road", and "Who's Looking Back At You?". Other titles have been mentioned, only these four keep resurfacing.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: JonL on July 04, 2011, 18:11:53 pm
It'll all end in tears.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: captainkurtz on July 04, 2011, 22:21:43 pm
I think I've just cum.

ps - what pd has just posted is from melodicrock.com - the chap behind the site isnt the most reliable of sources.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: pdw1 on July 04, 2011, 23:56:28 pm
Every time I see this thread I think its about a new merchandising opportunity  :-\

If anyone from Anthem sees this we will have Rush flip flops next summer  :-[
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Presto-digitation on July 05, 2011, 03:04:47 am
Quote from: captainkurtz on July 04, 2011, 22:21:43 pm
I think I've just cum.

ps - what pd has just posted is from melodicrock.com - the chap behind the site isnt the most reliable of sources.


True...but it's the only "news" out there right now.  And even busted clocks are correct twice a day.  ;)
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Dixkot on July 05, 2011, 20:30:39 pm
SAMMY HAGAR Says His Reunion With VAN HALEN Is 'Inevitable' - July 4, 2011 (http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=160265)
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: captainkurtz on July 05, 2011, 21:25:14 pm
Sammy Hagar is really becoming a knob, to be honest.  He cannot stop yapping about Van Halen and his book, from what I've heard, goes a little too far on the personal front.

Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Presto-digitation on July 06, 2011, 02:35:49 am
I've read it and it's not too personal, really.  Just observations.  Not always flattering ones, mind you, but his tone isn't overly bitter when it comes to VH.  For instance, he literally describes meeting Edward as they began working on a few new tunes for the Best Of Both Worlds collection and his description of Ed sound frightening (his appearance, the condition of the house and window covers, etc), but not necessarily made up.  It's no secret EVH has had his addiction problems and, if Sam's to be believed at all, he was in pretty sad shape and describes it as such.  I had no trouble imagining what he was describing...or thinking it was uncharacteristic of Edward.

But yes...in the end I believe you're correct.  You've got a good thing going with Chickenfoot, so focus on that.  None of that has anything to do with what Van Halen is or isn't doing.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: JonL on July 06, 2011, 09:30:04 am
Quote from: pdw1 on July 04, 2011, 23:56:28 pm
Every time I see this thread I think its about a new merchandising opportunity  :-\

If anyone from Anthem sees this we will have Rush flip flops next summer  :-[

If people are daft enough to buy them....along with £25 t shirts.

Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Andy42g on August 12, 2011, 09:09:54 am
http://www.vhnd.com/2011/08/10/van-halen-update-81011/

Update - includes down under dates now canned,  but it's  all Aerosmith's fault ... "Old School" sound. I wonder how Dave's vocals will sound because he certainly has not got the voice he had back in their heyday.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: captainkurtz on August 12, 2011, 09:29:52 am
Van Halen and Rush to headline next years High Voltage festival.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: captainkurtz on August 12, 2011, 09:36:04 am
I just made that up, incidentally.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Matt2112 on August 22, 2011, 14:29:05 pm
Rumours of an imminent single release...rumours of an imminent album release...rumours of a 2012 tour...Hass uncannilly describing a recent wet dream I had...it's all too much...  :o  :o
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: döm on August 22, 2011, 22:08:19 pm
Rumours denied for the time being anyway...

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/new-van-halen-album-just-rumors-band-says-20100706
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: captainkurtz on August 22, 2011, 23:19:35 pm
That article is from July 2010 - the record is imminent.

The rumoured single is a DLR song from 2000, I understand.

Wish they'd fecking hurry up.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: JonL on August 23, 2011, 10:36:55 am
My anticipation of this is only slightly higher that that of GnR, and I didn't care about that one scrap.
If they do it, I'll by it. If they don't, I won't notice.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Andy42g on September 06, 2011, 00:33:07 am
Mixing done - mastering soon.  :)
http://www.vhnd.com/2011/09/05/mixing-completed-on-van-halen-album-mastering-up-next/
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Matt2112 on September 06, 2011, 12:11:21 pm
Quote from: Andy42g on September 06, 2011, 00:33:07 am
Mixing done - mastering soon.  :)
http://www.vhnd.com/2011/09/05/mixing-completed-on-van-halen-album-mastering-up-next/


Goodie!  Surely can't be long now!  ;D
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Presto-digitation on September 07, 2011, 14:01:43 pm
Very good news!
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: captainkurtz on September 07, 2011, 14:14:06 pm
Initially, I thought the lack of PR was pretty cool.  However, I'm now thinking unless they start pumping up the PR, this record is going to die in the water.

Wish they'd put a little audio spoiler up or something. Jesus.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Matt2112 on September 07, 2011, 14:26:59 pm
Quote from: captainkurtz on September 07, 2011, 14:14:06 pmWish they'd put a little audio spoiler up or something. Jesus.


Quite.  Just a trademark squealing dive-bomb, or something, will do me for now...  :-[
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Andy42g on September 07, 2011, 16:25:07 pm
Not a peep from them. It's either a pile of shit or utter killer stuff.  Or somewhere in between. Who knows. We'll find out soon. I really hope it's not a load of their old demos revisited. Yeah - we have all them already thanks.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Presto-digitation on September 07, 2011, 17:32:08 pm
Quote from: captainkurtz on September 07, 2011, 14:14:06 pm
Initially, I thought the lack of PR was pretty cool.  However, I'm now thinking unless they start pumping up the PR, this record is going to die in the water.

Wish they'd put a little audio spoiler up or something. Jesus.


Indeed.  In fact they're not even speaking about it in the vaguest terms.  Even if you're holding out on a sound clip, at least talk it up some.  Van Halen clearly do NOT know how work the current social networking system and seems to have no clue just how helpful it can be....and for free too!  Opportunity wasted.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: JonL on September 07, 2011, 17:42:51 pm
Maybe they're hoping for quiet build up and word of mouth. Sadly, their fans are probably too old to go internet crazy to make that work.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Presto-digitation on September 07, 2011, 19:53:06 pm
...say folks who are (largely and, perhaps, collectively) as old or older than the average Van Halen fans.   ;D
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: captainkurtz on September 07, 2011, 21:10:51 pm
You'd think Wolfgang would be having a word with his dad about the benefits of the world wide web!

They don't even have a record contract at the minute, do they? I believe they were dropped by Warner Brothers some time ago.

Something's not quite right. DLR had that 'Get Ready' message on his website absolutely weeks ago.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: captainkurtz on September 07, 2011, 21:13:04 pm
Somewhere down the line, Van Halen really blew it. They should be a household name and a guaranteed arena filler throughout the world but through a sheer lack of nous and perhaps a touch of laziness, they blew it.  Such a shame because, really, they're one of the all time great rock bands (or at least the DLR led version is / was).
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: JonL on September 07, 2011, 21:25:32 pm
Quote from: Presto-digitation on September 07, 2011, 19:53:06 pm
...say folks who are (largely and, perhaps, collectively) as old or older than the average Van Halen fans.   ;D

I do acknowledge the irony.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Andy42g on September 07, 2011, 23:55:20 pm
Quote from: captainkurtz on September 07, 2011, 21:13:04 pm
Somewhere down the line, Van Halen really blew it. They should be a household name and a guaranteed arena filler throughout the world but through a sheer lack of nous and perhaps a touch of laziness, they blew it.  Such a shame because, really, they're one of the all time great rock bands (or at least the DLR led version is / was).

Well to be fair they confidently filled arenas in the States last time out with no new album and went down a storm. They could fill arenas over here too no problem I would imagine.
They were always bloody lazy though. Going for the money and not touring outside the USA. (Before Sammy joined did they ever do a headline tour over here? They cancelled their Diver Down shows, which was I thought the first chance I ever had to see them live...) Even with Hagar they Euro toured only the once (for F.U.C.K), plus that Bon Jovi stadium support slot for Balance.
And they must be THE only major band from the 70s (DLR version anyhow) to have not released archive live stuff.  It's there - we all know it.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: captainkurtz on September 08, 2011, 00:10:23 am
I don't think they would fill arenas here.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Presto-digitation on September 08, 2011, 01:24:40 am
Quote from: captainkurtz on September 07, 2011, 21:13:04 pm
Somewhere down the line, Van Halen really blew it. They should be a household name and a guaranteed arena filler throughout the world but through a sheer lack of nous and perhaps a touch of laziness, they blew it.  Such a shame because, really, they're one of the all time great rock bands (or at least the DLR led version is / was).


Well said sir.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Matt2112 on September 08, 2011, 10:30:14 am
I'm not sure they'd fill arenas here, either - on the other hand, I think the medium-sized venues like the O2 Academies and the like wouldn't be adequate for the demand.  I imagine that a 2/3rds-full arena gig would be 1/3rd as good as a rammed O2 Academy gig, but would their egos be satisfied?

Anyway, getting ahead of myself here - I suppose we'll just have to keep sitting it out.  :-\
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Presto-digitation on September 08, 2011, 13:47:06 pm
EVH still lives in the old world of record sales, big hits, etc.  When this album is released and it does GOOD numbers by today's standards, it'll read a huge disappointment to Eddie compared to years (decades) gone by and outside a US tour, that's as far as it will go.  Heritage acts have sometimes struggled to adjust to what's happened in the industry.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Andy42g on September 11, 2011, 23:18:18 pm
(http://www.vhnd.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/Caption_This_Chaps.jpg)
Look at all the people here tonight....  8)
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: JonL on September 11, 2011, 23:23:49 pm
Quote from: captainkurtz on September 08, 2011, 00:10:23 am
I don't think they would fill arenas here.

I disagree, it's all about the event. People are scared to miss out.
Or a well chosen double headline tour would work. Maybe Chickenfoot  :P.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: captainkurtz on September 11, 2011, 23:42:18 pm
If kiss and rush can't sell out arenas then I doubt very much van halen could.

Van Halen were never really that big here anyway, really. Largely due to hardly ever touring here, probably.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Andy42g on September 12, 2011, 13:51:19 pm
Last time they announced a tour over here it was with Gary Cherone and in arenas. Being a fanboi I had front row for the NEC and Wembley ... and they cancelled. Excure was AVH was injured , but I would imagine that as the album was piss poor they could never have sold enough tickets. However, with DLR back at the helm and with (we hope) a decent album to back them up I reckon they'd do pretty well in a few arenas nexct year. But of course they'll just come and do a festival. Hope it's not fecking Download - The Hyde Park weekender would be ideal IMHO.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Pudders on September 12, 2011, 14:06:22 pm
Quote from: captainkurtz on August 12, 2011, 09:29:52 am
Van Halen and Rush to headline next years High Voltage festival.


You might have got half of that right......  ;)
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: captainkurtz on September 12, 2011, 16:05:08 pm
Rush and kiss to headline next years high voltage festival.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Pudders on September 12, 2011, 19:56:33 pm
Quote from: captainkurtz on September 12, 2011, 16:05:08 pm
Rush and kiss to headline next years high voltage festival.


;D ;)
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: BasspedalMan on September 13, 2011, 12:05:10 pm
Quote from: captainkurtz on August 12, 2011, 09:29:52 am
Van Halen and Rush to headline next years High Voltage festival.


Now THAT would be good!!!!
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Matt2112 on September 20, 2011, 16:46:47 pm
VH to shift labels?  From MusicRadar:

QuoteVan Halen have been with Warner Bros. Records since 1978, when they were signed by Mo Ostin and Ted Templeman. But after 34 years, the band has reportedly ended their relationship with the Burbank, California-based label and are entering into an agreement with Sony.

According to The Hollywood Reporter, the Sony-owned Columbia Records will be Van Halen's new home, and A&R executive Stephen Ferrera will be overseeing the upcoming VH disc, the band's first full outing with David Lee Roth since the album 1984.

Earlier this year, it looked as though the new album would be released in 2011 (it was strongly rumored that the first single would hit over the 4th of July weekend), but now the word is that the record won't come out until early 2012.

Regarding the impending deal, a source told The Hollywood Reporter, "Nothing has been signed yet, but Columbia has been in the lead for some time."

The prospect of Van Halen leaving Warner Bros. comes during talk that the label is losing faith in rock music, choosing to focus on dance- and urban-flavored pop. Whether this is coincidence or a sign that Van Halen feels that Sony is simply better suited to their current needs is anyone's guess. At the moment, there has no confirmation on the new deal from either Columbia or the Van Halen camp.

Songwriter-producer John Shanks and producer-mixer Ross Hogarth have been in the studio with Van Halen for the better part of a year working on the new album. Said Hogarth of the upcoming LP: "It's the killing side of Van Halen at the top of their game again with Diamond Dave, and the band on fire."


Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: captainkurtz on October 12, 2011, 12:18:26 pm
From Melodicrock.com - not the most reliable of sources, although I had heard rumours of the Paris show....wtf is going on........ :(

VAN HALEN CANCEL PLANNED EUROPEAN TOUR DATES:
Van Halen have cancelled their planned 2012 Summer Tour of Europe before the dates were even announced. But because planning was so far along for the tour - the dates and venues were already locked in. But there has been no reason given to promoters for the cancellation. Simply that it was not going to go ahead.

The cancelled dates were:
May 28 Paris Zenith
May 30 Zuerich Hallenstadion
June 1 Barcelona Pala Jordi
June 3 Milano Arena Fiera
June 5 Dortmund Westfalenhalle
June 7 Sweden Rock Solvesborg
June 10 Download Festival Donnington
June 13 Stuttgart Schleyerhalle
June 15 Hellfest Clisson France
June 17 Fields Of Rock Festival Holland
June 19 Berlin O2 Arena
June 21 Prag
June 23 Grasspop Metal Meeting Belgium

That's it for now... but stay tuned as always...
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Andrew_Haldane on October 12, 2011, 12:38:23 pm
Therrs no doubt he is a wonderful guitarist.....but EVH really knows how to waste a career opportunity or 50.....get your shit together Eddie
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Andy42g on October 26, 2011, 19:08:46 pm
Still no sign of the bloody VH album, but in the meantime Sammy Hagar, Chickenfoot and his other mates are keeping busy.
This would be a great weekender...
http://www.vhnd.com/2011/10/26/rockin-cabo-2011-sammy-hagar-birthday-bash-recap/
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: captainkurtz on October 26, 2011, 19:15:28 pm
The chickenfoot record is, er, chickenshit, imo.

Hurry up Eddie, ffs.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: JonL on October 27, 2011, 10:32:45 am
I've said this before, sadly, I'm filing my interest in new VH product in the same drawer as GNR, but a little nearer the front.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Matt2112 on October 27, 2011, 10:55:23 am
I'm going through the 80s albums again.  By the time I've stopped creaming over the synths and whammy-wanking there might be another teaser update dangled for us.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Andy42g on October 28, 2011, 13:05:32 pm
Sammy Hagar - "could manage GnR"... Hmmm
Does have something sensible to say about VH though.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2011/oct/28/guns-n-roses-van-halen
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Matt2112 on October 28, 2011, 13:13:28 pm
Quote"Wolfie, Dave and Ed are not the Van Halen that the world wants to see ... Those guys haven't made a good decision since I left the band."


Move on, Sammy.  ::)
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Andrew_Haldane on October 29, 2011, 01:00:21 am
Quote from: Matt2112 on October 28, 2011, 13:13:28 pm
Move on, Sammy.  ::)


well he is half right I guess....most people want Mike back in the band.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Andy42g on October 31, 2011, 13:52:10 pm
Quote from: Bisto on October 29, 2011, 01:00:21 am
well he is half right I guess....most people want Mike back in the band.

Yeah - but Mike's better off staying where he is. He's best keeping away from the VH snake pit.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Andy42g on November 04, 2011, 23:08:56 pm
http://www.vhnd.com/2011/11/04/van-halen-to-make-announcement-at-grammy-nominations-november-30th/
Could be some movement towards something, err, happening.  :-\
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: JonL on November 05, 2011, 11:25:45 am
They're splitting up again probably.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Andy42g on November 09, 2011, 23:58:20 pm
Looks like Nov 30th at the Grammys:

TheGRAMMYs: Twitter
Who do u predict the reuniting band will be @ #GRAMMYnoms? grm.my/vH7p3Y Does this hint make u wanna "Jump" & "Dance the Night Away"?
To summarize, "The iconic group" will make a live ANNOUNCEMENT during the Grammys Nomination Concert (Nov. 30th) about their reunion. The Grammy's tweet pretty much leaves NO doubt that the mystery band is indeed VAN HALEN. Is this just dishonest hype? Or will Van Halen really appear at the Grammy Nominations Concert on Nov. 30th?
So unless the Grammys are lying (hard to imagine!), November 30th is the date that Van Halen will publicly announce their NEW ALBUM AND TOUR!
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Andy42g on November 11, 2011, 15:48:59 pm
From vhnd.com:

Van Halen Signs With Interscope Records
Thursday, 10 November 2011 VHND has been hearing some solid info from our trusted sources, and it's all wonderful news!

Van Halen has recently signed with Interscope Records (not Columbia Records as rumors stated). The album is 100% done and in the can, and fans will have it in their hands early next year. The release date is set in stone and is top secret, but will be announced very soon.

In fact, the Grammys are hinting strongly that Van Halen will make their announcement at the Grammy Nominations Concert held in Los Angeles on November 30th. Fans will be able to watch the announcement live on CBS.

Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Matt2112 on November 13, 2011, 23:47:14 pm
Quote from: Andy42g on November 11, 2011, 15:48:59 pm
From vhnd.com:

Van Halen Signs With Interscope Records
Thursday, 10 November 2011 VHND has been hearing some solid info from our trusted sources, and it's all wonderful news!

Van Halen has recently signed with Interscope Records (not Columbia Records as rumors stated). The album is 100% done and in the can, and fans will have it in their hands early next year. The release date is set in stone and is top secret, but will be announced very soon.

In fact, the Grammys are hinting strongly that Van Halen will make their announcement at the Grammy Nominations Concert held in Los Angeles on November 30th. Fans will be able to watch the announcement live on CBS.


It's all too much....I hope that's sweat running down me leg...  :o  :-X
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Presto-digitation on November 14, 2011, 14:15:21 pm
You know, VH is a bit like GNR's promise of Chinese Democracy in that I won't fully believe it until I'm holding a new CD in my hand and even then I'll look about, fearing Eddie will come and swipe it out of my hands before I can leave the store. 

Either way, it can't possibly be worse than 3 now, can it?
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Presto-digitation on November 14, 2011, 14:15:43 pm
Quote from: Matt2112 on November 13, 2011, 23:47:14 pm
It's all too much....I hope that's sweat running down me leg...  :o  :-X


;D  A good laugh.  Thanks.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Matt2112 on November 14, 2011, 14:49:40 pm
Quote from: Presto-digitation on November 14, 2011, 14:15:21 pm
You know, VH is a bit like GNR's promise of Chinese Democracy in that I won't fully believe it until I'm holding a new CD in my hand and even then I'll look about, fearing Eddie will come and swipe it out of my hands before I can leave the store. 

Either way, it can't possibly be worse than 3 now, can it?


And it can't possibly be worse than Chinese Democracy, either.  ;)
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Presto-digitation on November 14, 2011, 16:53:09 pm
The hype may be a bit too much for a new VH album to bear.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Andy42g on November 14, 2011, 17:29:13 pm
Quote from: Presto-digitation on November 14, 2011, 14:15:21 pm
You know, VH is a bit like GNR's promise of Chinese Democracy in that I won't fully believe it until I'm holding a new CD in my hand and even then I'll look about, fearing Eddie will come and swipe it out of my hands before I can leave the store. 

Either way, it can't possibly be worse than 3 now, can it?

I'm really only concerned about the state of DLR's voice - but I guess he could still pull it off, at least in the studio, or they would not have gone back with him - even for the money? He sounded OK on the reunion tour but had definitely lost the nigh notes.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: captainkurtz on November 14, 2011, 17:52:58 pm
He sounded better than Geddy did on the Time Machine tour.

He might have lost the high notes but his all round singing was better than its ever been.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Presto-digitation on November 14, 2011, 18:19:55 pm
Quote from: Andy42g on November 14, 2011, 17:29:13 pm
I'm really only concerned about the state of DLR's voice - but I guess he could still pull it off, at least in the studio, or they would not have gone back with him - even for the money? He sounded OK on the reunion tour but had definitely lost the nigh notes.


Agree.  I'm really curious about this.  In the digital age I'm sure his voice will be getting some touch ups.  Live he's a bit fecked.

While flawed, if the songs are in the range of a Me Wise Magic I'll be fairly pleased.  I don't expect a lot more, realistically.  I know that's a hell of a way to welcome a new record after 14 years: I hope it doesn't suck too badly.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: captainkurtz on November 15, 2011, 08:43:33 am
Apparently, they're not doing the Grammys now.  ::)
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Andy42g on November 15, 2011, 10:07:18 am
Quote from: captainkurtz on November 15, 2011, 08:43:33 am
Apparently, they're not doing the Grammys now.  ::)

http://ultimateclassicrock.com/van-halen-not-appearing-at-grammy-nominations/
Keeping everyone on their toes...  ::)
But at least Glee have done Hot For Teacher.  ;D
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Matt2112 on November 15, 2011, 11:11:12 am
Quote from: Andy42g on November 15, 2011, 10:07:18 amKeeping everyone on their toes...  ::)


Yep, gotta admire the pre-album teasing marketing ploys.

QuoteBut at least Glee have done Hot For Teacher.  ;D


:o  ???  ???  :o
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Presto-digitation on November 15, 2011, 14:34:11 pm
More on the Interscope Records deal:

"Iconic rock band Van Halen are set to sign with Interscope Records, says a source familiar with the negotiations. The deal is expected to be finalized next week, marking the first time in 35 years that the band will not release music through Warner Music, its longtime label home.

It had been rumored -- and reported -- that the band was joining the Columbia Records roster. In fact, an insider tells The Hollywood Reporter that the contract for the Sony deal was drawn up and approved but hadn't been signed when Universal Music stepped into the picture.

The signing was a group effort involving UMG chairman and CEO Lucian Grainge, UMG International COO Max Hole, Interscope Geffen A&M vice chairman Steve Berman and Interscope's Jimmy Iovine, who, says a source, "heard the band was available and wanted to work with them. It was decided at the 11th hour." What came next was a series of meetings that presented the band with a global plan that included extensive marketing, merchandising, touring and, of course, recordings.

So what derailed the Columbia deal? The usual rock band complications, says an insider. While the group reunited with original singer David Lee Roth in 2006, the Sony label could not come to terms with Roth, who has a separate management, legal and accounting team than the other three members, guitarist Eddie Van Halen and his son Wolfgang (who replaced bassist Michael Anthony) and drummer Alex Van Halen. The main issue for Roth? He was apparently adamant about being on a west coast label. "He was never on board [with Columbia]," says the source. "It was as complicated as anyone would imagine, when one side says black, the other says white. The label was pretty sceptical that things would work out."

It's expected that as frontman, Roth will have to carry much of the marketing burden and it seems the band members ultimately want their singer to be happy with the deal which is why they went with Universal's west coast-based Interscope.

A new album, their first studio effort since 1984, is believed to be nearly finished with the hope that it can be released in 2012. The band is expected to make a "special announcement" on Nov. 30 at the Grammy Awards nominations concert, which will air live on CBS from Los Angeles' Nokia Theater. An Interscope rep had no comment."
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Andy42g on November 17, 2011, 15:19:37 pm
http://www.vhnd.com/2011/11/15/video-david-lee-roth-and-his-sister-promote-van-halen-rockabye-baby-lullabye-cd/  :o
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Presto-digitation on November 17, 2011, 17:31:35 pm
Rock your child to sleep with to the sweet refrains of Hot For Teacher, Girl Gone Bad, D.O.A., On Fire, and my favorite, Unchained, featuring the haunting "you'll get some leg tonight for sure" spoken bridge.  Who needs visions of sugarplums dancing in your head when you can have the visual metaphors of Dave Roth instead?

Oh my.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Presto-digitation on November 18, 2011, 15:03:22 pm
(http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/sites/default/files/2011/11/van-halen-iag-execs-l.jpg)

Van Halen RECENTLY with Interscope heads. 

Van Halen shoots a video for a new tune at The Roxy in LA...(background set up shown).

It's underway kids.  Also, they're still supposed to make an appearance at the Grammy's to announce (album? tour?).  They're not performing but will appear.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Andrew_Haldane on November 18, 2011, 15:20:39 pm
Quote from: Presto-digitation on November 18, 2011, 15:03:22 pm
(http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/sites/default/files/2011/11/van-halen-iag-execs-l.jpg)



Jeez...Can't imagine them getting any leg tonight or any other based on that photo ;D
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: captainkurtz on November 18, 2011, 15:29:21 pm
I'd give eddie one.  Still a cool fecker.

Look at Jimmy Iovine (in the middle).  The complete antithesis of a 'suit'.  I can see why they wanted to sign with him.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: JonL on November 18, 2011, 15:36:40 pm
Iovine comes across to me as a very knowlegable guy, who cares about the music.
As for getting any, have you seen Eddie's current missus?
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: captainkurtz on November 18, 2011, 15:40:16 pm
Quote from: JonL on November 18, 2011, 15:36:40 pm
As for getting any, have you seen Eddie's current missus?

Yes.  Very attractive.  :)
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Presto-digitation on November 18, 2011, 16:39:53 pm
Alex...still Asian.  Check.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Andy42g on November 21, 2011, 15:20:44 pm
... and there's Dave keeping well away from the other three.  ::)
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Danforth on November 22, 2011, 09:27:23 am
Quote from: Presto-digitation on November 18, 2011, 16:39:53 pm
Alex...still Asian.  Check.


That's because his mother was half dutch and half indonesian.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Fuzzy on November 22, 2011, 16:40:00 pm
I think Dave might have pulled the guy in the white shirt by the look of his grin, that might also be why the rest of the band keep away from him  ::)
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Presto-digitation on November 30, 2011, 21:49:10 pm
Quote from: Danforth on November 22, 2011, 09:27:23 am
That's because his mother was half dutch and half indonesian.


Is that so?  Well I suppose that does explain it.  I guess Edward has a bit more of the Dutch going on then. 
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: captainkurtz on November 30, 2011, 22:04:17 pm
Appearance tonight at the Grammys thing?
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Matt2112 on November 30, 2011, 22:50:51 pm
Haven't got a Scooby.   :-\
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: captainkurtz on December 01, 2011, 08:32:44 am
Nothing.  Bollocks.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Andy42g on December 01, 2011, 14:00:15 pm
Quote from: captainkurtz on December 01, 2011, 08:32:44 am
Nothing.  Bollocks.

Hehe. All pretty amusing really. Someone's doing a very good job at the Van Halen publicity camp, in a sort of doing nothing at all kind of fashion.  ::)
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Matt2112 on December 01, 2011, 14:04:09 pm
http://www.musicradar.com/news/guitars/van-halen-missing-in-action-at-grammy-awards-concert-517053 (http://www.musicradar.com/news/guitars/van-halen-missing-in-action-at-grammy-awards-concert-517053)
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Andy42g on December 01, 2011, 14:16:02 pm
http://www.musicradar.com/news/guitars/van-halens-eruption-a-celebration-of-33-years-in-33-videos-402780
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: JonL on December 01, 2011, 19:34:17 pm
I can see people drifting away in apathy as I type this.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Matt2112 on December 05, 2011, 15:07:50 pm
QuoteFrom The Hollywood Reporter:

Tweeting With the Devil: How the Grammys Launched a Misinformation Campaign in 140 Characters (Opinion)

Were Van Halen supposed to appear on Wednesday's Grammy Awards nominations special or the Beach Boys? Confusion risks tainting music's biggest night but THR has a solution.

9:03 PM PST 12/3/2011 by Shirley Halperin

It all began with a tweet. On Nov. 3, the official Grammy Awards Twitter, whose handle is @TheGRAMMYs, sent a message to its 208,000 followers which read:

Who do u predict the reuniting band will be @ #GRAMMYnoms? http://grm.my/vH7p3Y Does this hint make u wanna "Jump" & "Dance the Night Away"?

The 140-character missive came hours after a press release was issued by the Recording Academy announcing its annual one-hour nominations special (broadcast on CBS since 2008) and promising "a special live announcement from a truly iconic group regarding their historic band reunion set to take place on the GRAMMY stage on Feb. 12, 2012."

In due haste, the media began speculating as to who the surprise act could be and it didn't take long before Van Halen's name came up with one industry website, Htifix.com, going so far as to put it out there. And it made perfect sense: at that moment -- and ever since, really -- they were the band with the most reunion buzz. Back together with frontman David Lee Roth, the legendary arena rockers were close to signing a recording contract with a new label (initially rumored to be with Columbia but landing at Interscope) after 40 years at Warner Bros., and releasing their first album together since the monstrous 1984. What better place to reveal a potential release date or a first televised performance than at a Grammys event?

So when the tweet appeared at 5:45pm on Nov. 3 with the most Van Halen-obvious hint imaginable and a link to the Hitfix story, it was all but a fait accompli that guitarist Eddie Van Halen, his bass-playing son Wolfgang, who took over for Michael Anthony in 2006, drummer Alex Van Halen and David Lee Roth would be present at Los Angeles' Nokia Theater on Nov. 30.

Of course, nothing of the sort actually transpired during the televised special. There was no surprise announcement, nor was there an appearance by an "iconic band." Instead, the nominations concert offered a few of the Grammys' signature pairings -- Lady Gaga with Sugarland, Usher with Valerie Simpson - along with a performance by country newcomers The Band Perry and a hip hop collective comprised of Grandmaster Flash, LL Cool J, Lupe Fiasco, Common, Melle Mel and Scorpio, who performed Furious Five's 1982 classic "The Message."


And blah blah blah.  Fact is, it didn't happen and was never supposed to.  Back to square one. :(

Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Andy42g on December 14, 2011, 23:35:11 pm
Yeah - so no new album just yet, but here's a reminder of what Eddie's guitar sounds like:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rehEj-WIjf4&feature=related
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: captainkurtz on December 14, 2011, 23:40:22 pm
Urgh. Horrible.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Presto-digitation on December 21, 2011, 16:13:11 pm
Quote from: Andy42g on December 14, 2011, 23:35:11 pm
Yeah - so no new album just yet, but here's a reminder of what Eddie's guitar sounds like:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rehEj-WIjf4&feature=related


Surely it's not changed a bit since 1995?   ;)
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Presto-digitation on December 21, 2011, 16:17:38 pm
The Grammy thing just smacks of the show trying to drum up attention and (much-needed) television ratings.  I love how much of the online community has blamed Van Halen for this when even the producers have admitted that it was never a done deal.  Didn't stop them from all-but-promising the delivery though.  ;)  Now that said, the band does a poor job of public relations in general, so guilty as charged there.  But we've gotten to the point where just about anyone can make a promise on their behalf and then VH get the egg on their face for it.  While they do little to dissuade rumors, they certainly do not start them all either.  Van Halen never once addressed the Grammys publicly.  This was all from the show.  And while I suspect that it wasn't entirely unfounded (talking stages, I'd guess), they really had no business dropping those kinds of hints if in fact they did not have the band committed to it.   Otherwise I'm going to publicly state "right now" that some band is going to "dance the night away" at my son's 16th birthday party next July, setting that event "on fire" on a hot "summer night." 

We'll know who to blame if it doesn't happen.   ;)
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: captainkurtz on December 26, 2011, 10:31:41 am
Vanhalen.com

Tickets for (probably US) tour out Jan 10th
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Andy42g on December 26, 2011, 13:03:40 pm
Quote from: captainkurtz on December 26, 2011, 10:31:41 am
Vanhalen.com

Tickets for (probably US) tour out Jan 10th

Saw a link to this from Facebook. Poxy video -"Jump" is nearly 30 years old - they STILL have nothing new to show.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: captainkurtz on December 26, 2011, 14:45:53 pm
Roth is still a cool fecker though.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Presto-digitation on December 26, 2011, 15:41:19 pm


(http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/soulflypremiere/vanhalencover.jpg)
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Presto-digitation on December 26, 2011, 15:59:22 pm
^ If this is any kind of true, then sooner than I thought.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Andy42g on December 26, 2011, 17:09:07 pm
That's a train is it? I am beginning to get overly cynical about everything VH....
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: captainkurtz on December 26, 2011, 17:17:59 pm
What the feck is that? That's some shit artwork! Does Roth have any input into their art these days - their covers for the 70's-80's artwork was brilliant.

Plus, it's a bit reminiscent of the train used by AC/DC on their last record.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Presto-digitation on December 26, 2011, 18:06:45 pm
Watching that preview video, the same image is on Alex's bass drum heads.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Presto-digitation on December 26, 2011, 18:08:03 pm
Quote from: captainkurtz on December 26, 2011, 17:17:59 pm
What the feck is that? That's some shit artwork! Does Roth have any input into their art these days - their covers for the 70's-80's artwork was brilliant.

Plus, it's a bit reminiscent of the train used by AC/DC on their last record.


;D Far sight better than this piece of shite cover:

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/bf/Van_Halen_-_Van_Halen_III.jpg)
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Andy42g on December 26, 2011, 18:44:46 pm
Quote from: Presto-digitation on December 26, 2011, 18:08:03 pm
;D Far sight better than this piece of shite cover:

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/bf/Van_Halen_-_Van_Halen_III.jpg)

Yeah - really, what the feck went on with that one?
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Presto-digitation on December 26, 2011, 18:50:50 pm
Isn't it dreadful?  I mean, even the logo was a non-effort.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: captainkurtz on December 26, 2011, 19:02:38 pm
Well it did bomb, so it was sorta conceptual.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Presto-digitation on December 26, 2011, 19:13:58 pm
Quote from: captainkurtz on December 26, 2011, 19:02:38 pm
Well it did bomb, so it was sorta conceptual.


;D

And it was as poor as it was unsuccessful.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Matt2112 on December 27, 2011, 15:25:27 pm
Quote from: captainkurtz on December 26, 2011, 17:17:59 pm
What the feck is that? That's some shit artwork! Does Roth have any input into their art these days - their covers for the 70's-80's artwork was brilliant.

Plus, it's a bit reminiscent of the train used by AC/DC on their last record.


Absolutely.  :-\

At least something's happened, even if it isn't terribly exciting.  How about a 30-second teaser from the new album?  That'll get the loins stirring...  :o
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Presto-digitation on December 27, 2011, 16:07:00 pm
Seems we have a video (no audio yet), an album cover, a date referencing...something...and an announcement of tickets going on sale next month for a tour.  Considering the source that's something!
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: captainkurtz on December 28, 2011, 18:48:28 pm
The Van Halen News Desk (VHND.com) has breaking news on all things surrounding the much anticipated new Van Halen album! Here's the schedule of events leading up to the new album's release:

JANUARY 3rd:
*CONCERT DATES & CITIES ANNOUNCED for first wave of tour

JANUARY 10th:
*FIRST SINGLE PREMIERE
*FIRST MUSIC VIDEO PREMIERE
*CONCERT TICKETS GO ON SALE

FEBRUARY 7th:
NEW ALBUM RELEASE DATE

ALBUM TITLE: "The Future" is not the album title, as rumored. Stay tuned to VHND.com for an update on the actual album and song titles.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Presto-digitation on December 28, 2011, 22:25:06 pm
Great update.  Hard to believe this is ACTUALLY coming to fruition.

Other than the obvious responses such as "like shite" and the like, what are your (collective) thoughts on what this might sound like, either stylistically in general or by song in particular?
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: captainkurtz on December 28, 2011, 23:49:12 pm
Will sound like classic van halen, by all accounts.

Seemingly much of the material has been in the vaults since Roth was originally in the band and the guitarist from Alter Bridge (Wolfgangs pal) and the producer have stated it bears the hallmarks of their classic sound (ie everything that Hagar isn't on)

My underpants are getting wetter with each passing day.

They'd never sell out arenas over here, but I do harbour hopes of, say, a one off Brixton or Hammersmith date.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Andy42g on December 28, 2011, 23:51:11 pm
(http://www.vhnd.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/VHND_1.jpg)
Has Eddie been hitting the pie shop?
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: captainkurtz on December 28, 2011, 23:53:58 pm
Hope the riffs are that fat.

He's got married - I put on 2 stone within 6 months of getting married.

He looks a shitload better than he did on the last tour where he was just emaciated.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Andy42g on December 28, 2011, 23:55:09 pm
Quote from: Presto-digitation on December 28, 2011, 22:25:06 pm
Great update.  Hard to believe this is ACTUALLY coming to fruition.

Other than the obvious responses such as "like shite" and the like, what are your (collective) thoughts on what this might sound like, either stylistically in general or by song in particular?

Great news. Amazed it's not leaked and is not for order on Amazon etc.

Sound like? Hopefully some great Eddie riffage and solos with Alex and Wolfie providing rock solid support and Dave doing his thing. I guess we wait and see. My only fear is that Roth's voice is not up to the task.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Andy42g on December 28, 2011, 23:56:16 pm
Quote from: captainkurtz on December 28, 2011, 23:53:58 pm
Hope the riffs are that fat.

He's got married - I put on 2 stone within 6 months of getting married.

He looks a shitload better than he did on the last tour where he was just emaciated.

Yeah - and getting away from being a drunk probably helps.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Matt2112 on December 28, 2011, 23:58:26 pm
He looks a bit like Yngwie there, actually. Hope there's some likewise shredding to look forward to an' all...
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: captainkurtz on December 29, 2011, 00:00:41 am
It's not leaked because it was recorded at 5150, no doubt.

Roths voice was as good as I've ever heard it on the last tour and he looks in incredible shape physically.  I think this reunion really means alot to him.

Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Andy42g on December 29, 2011, 00:14:56 am
Quote from: captainkurtz on December 29, 2011, 00:00:41 am
It's not leaked because it was recorded at 5150, no doubt.

And no promo/advance copies at all - none gone to the internet suppliers.


Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Presto-digitation on December 29, 2011, 00:19:31 am
Quote from: Andy42g on December 28, 2011, 23:56:16 pm
Yeah - and getting away from being a drunk probably helps.


Indeed.  I'd rather see a little padding on the man and not fear so much that he'll hit the self destruct button halfway through a tour due to old habits.

Interesting that they would not sell out arenas over there.  You just about can't hold them here.  Their '07 reunion with Roth pushed the seams of the venues in the States.  But I get they've never been a big touring band over there.  Get out what you put in, I suppose.

The single is LESS THAN 2 weeks from now, so I don't suppose a leak is too far off at this point. 
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Presto-digitation on December 29, 2011, 00:20:39 am
Quote from: captainkurtz on December 29, 2011, 00:00:41 am

Roths voice was as good as I've ever heard it on the last tour and he looks in incredible shape physically.  I think this reunion really means alot to him.


I agree.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Andy42g on December 29, 2011, 00:27:46 am
Quote from: Presto-digitation on December 29, 2011, 00:19:31 am
Indeed.  I'd rather see a little padding on the man and not fear so much that he'll hit the self destruct button halfway through a tour due to old habits.

Yeah.

Quote
Interesting that they would not sell out arenas over there.  You just about can't hold them here. 

That was someone's opinion.  I reckon that with DLR back they could do a few arena shows here pretty comfortably. Rush manage it.

Quote
The single is LESS THAN 2 weeks from now, so I don't suppose a leak is too far off at this point.

:) Will keep checking.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: captainkurtz on December 29, 2011, 00:35:04 am
Oh, I'm just 'someone' now then, eh?

And I thought we wuz tight.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Matt2112 on December 29, 2011, 00:38:40 am
Quote from: captainkurtz on December 28, 2011, 23:49:12 pmMy underpants are getting wetter with each passing day.


Ah, excellent.  Not just me, then...  :o  ;)
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Andy42g on December 29, 2011, 00:39:21 am
Quote from: captainkurtz on December 29, 2011, 00:35:04 am
Oh, I'm just 'someone' now then, eh?

And I thought we wuz tight.

:)
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Presto-digitation on December 30, 2011, 00:44:23 am
ROXY THEATER

For the past 2 months VAN HALEN has been rehearsing here 2-3 times a week!!!!!!

Do you have any idea how hard that was to not tell you?? When you come in at 10:00AM and David Lee Roth, Eddie Van Halen, Alex Van Halen, and Wolfgang Van Halen are on stage with 3 other people in the room playing "Running With The Devil" and you can't say anything?! It's tough, to put it simply.

It all began with a 3 day video shoot for their newest single that you don't know about yet (shhh) and we were all geeking out like never before. Little did we know, the guys had fallen in love with the room and decided to rehearse for their upcoming unannounced tour for the next 2 months!

We couldn't film it for obvious reasons, so we've decided to share some of our favorite VH moments that happened for the next 2 months.

"My favorite Van Halen moment was when I came out of the kitchen and they were doing Panama. I was one of the only people standing in the room by the stage. David Lee Roth looked at me, smiled, and waved. I thought to myself "that is the only time in life I will know David Lee Roth was actually singing to me." - @LizzyDStadler

"It was so nice being at my desk listening to "Jump" & "Panama", the songs I grew up with by the actual Van Halen. I mean, really - it's the actually f**king Van Halen!" - Tina

"Watching David Lee Roth film the opening part of this video was one of the most awesome things. He was standing there smiling with a gigantic grin on his face for at least 5 minutes and HeKo & I were standing off to the side trying not to laugh (or get in the shot), but it was incredible. The week they finally brought in the synthesizers and played the opening to "Jump" over & over made it really difficult to not jump out of my seat accordingly with the song. JUMP!" - @toneyeah

"What was my favorite part about it? Everything. I know it sounds stupid, but I can't put it any other way. To walk through the club and have Eddie Van Halen smile at me or pat me on the back, the guys were so nice, it was unbelievable. In my 9 years at the club, this is by far one of the best things that's happened." - Scotty



"The positive energy VH brought to the daytime was fantastic. During the day, it's always so quiet and work, work, work and even when a band does rehearse, it's always so serious. Van Halen was having fun the entire time and we could feel it throughout the building." @Heko310

"I just loved the first time they played "Running With The Devil" it sounded exactly like it did when I was working box office at The Whisky." - Kathy
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: captainkurtz on December 30, 2011, 00:47:36 am
I've cum.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Presto-digitation on December 30, 2011, 04:05:02 am
(http://theroxyonsunset.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/VH_ROXY_GROUP_SHOT-e1325185509795.jpg)
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Andy42g on December 30, 2011, 11:31:12 am
Hurrah. Looking good.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Dixkot on December 30, 2011, 11:36:21 am

Really looking forward to this.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Straight Shooter on December 30, 2011, 18:59:00 pm
Indeed; was getting goose-bumps just reading P-d's post!
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: JonL on December 30, 2011, 19:34:34 pm
Ok. I'm actually excited about this. 8)
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Presto-digitation on December 30, 2011, 21:41:17 pm
(http://www.vhnd.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/VHND_Van_Halen_Roxy_2.jpg)

(http://www.vhnd.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/VHND_Van_Halen_Roxy_3.jpg.jpg)
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: captainkurtz on December 30, 2011, 21:56:42 pm
Dying to hear the new stuff and have a really good feeling about European dates.

I am so there.

Hope they do VIP meet and greet packages - would never consider purchasing one for any other group.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Presto-digitation on December 31, 2011, 00:51:42 am
Dying to hear it too.  Funny how long the wait has been and now that we're almost literally on the eve of something new, I can't stop thinking about it.  They need to remedy this before some of us lose our minds.  ;)
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Straight Shooter on December 31, 2011, 01:43:52 am
Quote from: Presto-digitation on December 31, 2011, 00:51:42 am
They need to remedy this before some of us lose our minds.  ;)

............or else give Kurtzy boxing gloves!  ::)   ;)
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: JonL on December 31, 2011, 15:12:03 pm
Quote from: Presto-digitation on December 30, 2011, 04:05:02 am
(http://theroxyonsunset.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/VH_ROXY_GROUP_SHOT-e1325185509795.jpg)

So who else is in the photo, they all look pretty young (apart from the bald bloke....no, not DLR). And why is Wolfie shoved in the back ground?
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Presto-digitation on December 31, 2011, 16:25:19 pm
The other folks are fellows from their record label, Interscope.

I'm sure they took a lot of photos in this shoot and moved folks around.  Interestingly, the first one I posted (color photo) had Dave standing on one side of the group and the other three on the opposite side and all people seemed to focus on (on various boards) was "what's the deal with Dave being over there?  That can't be good."   Now he's sitting next to Alex and Edward and people are asking why Wolfie is behind them.  :D   I guess Dave and the others mended their problems between shots and Wolfie pissed them off.  ;)

Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: JonL on December 31, 2011, 16:38:45 pm
Quote from: Presto-digitation on December 31, 2011, 16:25:19 pm
The other folks are fellows from their record label, Interscope.

I'm sure they took a lot of photos in this shoot and moved folks around.  Interestingly, the first one I posted (color photo) had Dave standing on one side of the group and the other three on the opposite side and all people seemed to focus on (on various boards) was "what's the deal with Dave being over there?  That can't be good."   Now he's sitting next to Alex and Edward and people are asking why Wolfie is behind them.  :D   I guess Dave and the others mended their problems between shots and Wolfie pissed them off.  ;)


I don't really read anything into the Wolfie thing.
Good to see the Interscope guys are young. Hopefully youthful enthusiasm will rub off on the band.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Matt2112 on December 31, 2011, 17:13:40 pm
Quote from: Presto-digitation on December 30, 2011, 00:44:23 am
"My favorite Van Halen moment was when I came out of the kitchen and they were doing Panama.


Oh....I do hope my local launderette is open.  :-X  :o
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Presto-digitation on December 31, 2011, 22:44:45 pm
Quote from: JonL on December 31, 2011, 16:38:45 pm
I don't really read anything into the Wolfie thing.
Good to see the Interscope guys are young. Hopefully youthful enthusiasm will rub off on the band.


It's a good observation.  I hope so too.  Dave certainly seems spry in the video footage.  I hope everyone else in the band is as up as he appears to be.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Rrroooaaarrr on December 31, 2011, 23:11:01 pm
Quote from: Presto-digitation on December 30, 2011, 04:05:02 am
(http://theroxyonsunset.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/VH_ROXY_GROUP_SHOT-e1325185509795.jpg)
Which of these old gits are VH? ;D I hope after all this it ain't a load of shite!
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Presto-digitation on January 01, 2012, 00:46:23 am
It appears it's not another VH-related ruse.  Will it be any good?  Who knows.  But it does appear to be a go and that right quick!  Even if a tour implodes, the record seems a certainty.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: captainkurtz on January 01, 2012, 01:07:51 am
Uk tour please.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: captainkurtz on January 02, 2012, 13:12:45 pm
Quote from: Presto-digitation on December 26, 2011, 15:41:19 pm

(http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/soulflypremiere/vanhalencover.jpg)


(http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQEmVOtqMiQK9y-WAaukXbq10UtXklH-bvdIrfOIfVFk8FEjhp2)

:o
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Presto-digitation on January 02, 2012, 16:52:40 pm
Yeah, I've seen that since too.  ;)  I've read where the VH camp has said that the promotional tour image is based on the album cover, but that sounds as if they're suggesting that it's not exactly the same.  We'll see.  When you look at that image on Alex's drum kit it's more of an abstraction of the promotional art. 
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Andy42g on January 02, 2012, 17:32:49 pm
http://www.rotharmy.com/forums/showthread.php?63833-EXCLUSIVE-Roth-Army-Collaboration-with-Diamond-Dave-Enterprises-!!

Dave footage from the year. :)
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: captainkurtz on January 02, 2012, 18:01:45 pm
I love that footage - Dave looks like he's having the time of his life and is in incredible shape.

I felt he was a little tenatative on the last tour - almost like he was trying to watch his p's & q's for fear of upsetting someone.

It feels now like his confidence is back and Eddie seems to have sorted himself out - the future looks good.  8)

Hard to belive this was him 10 years ago, when, frankly, it looked like the game was up.

(http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcROOJ2gfBzQXMMUxm8zo4P5os0E1ps0GERNygPuMXgceqjuTdio)
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: JonL on January 02, 2012, 19:24:42 pm
That's one happy Dave.
My cynicism has almost completely gone now. Very excited about the whole thing.
He's still got some moves too.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: captainkurtz on January 02, 2012, 20:15:15 pm
Tour dates officially announced tomorrow.

1 more week until video premiere.

Excited.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Presto-digitation on January 02, 2012, 22:07:54 pm
Quote from: captainkurtz on January 02, 2012, 20:15:15 pm
Tour dates officially announced tomorrow.

1 more week until video premiere.

Excited.


Indeed.  :)
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Presto-digitation on January 02, 2012, 22:08:45 pm
Dave, Alex, and Edward talk about old times in a couple audio clips.  Lovely to hear them laughing with one another:

http://www.vhnd.com/
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: captainkurtz on January 02, 2012, 22:45:40 pm
Rumours of press conference in New York tomorrow.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Andy42g on January 02, 2012, 23:47:50 pm
Quote from: captainkurtz on January 02, 2012, 18:01:45 pm
I love that footage - Dave looks like he's having the time of his life and is in incredible shape.

I felt he was a little tenatative on the last tour - almost like he was trying to watch his p's & q's for fear of upsetting someone.

It feels now like his confidence is back and Eddie seems to have sorted himself out - the future looks good.  8)

Hard to belive this was him 10 years ago, when, frankly, it looked like the game was up.

(http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcROOJ2gfBzQXMMUxm8zo4P5os0E1ps0GERNygPuMXgceqjuTdio)

Indeed. He looks in great shape - and in great mind. It really is all looking quite good - here's hoping it sounds good too...
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: captainkurtz on January 03, 2012, 10:25:26 am
Playing New York's tiny Cafe Wha? tomorrow.  Looking forward to seeing some YouTube footage.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Matt2112 on January 03, 2012, 11:13:28 am
Just caught up with things here - need more laundrette tokens!!  :o  ;D
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Andy42g on January 03, 2012, 11:28:19 am
http://www.amazon.com/Van-Halen-Bottoms-Broadcast-Archives/dp/B0060ANTNE/ref=sr_1_9?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1325586336&sr=1-9
Anyone any info/ideas about this? Bootleg?
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Andy42g on January 03, 2012, 13:36:02 pm
Album still not in Amazon etc and not one sniff of any new material so far with less than 2 weeks til launch day?
Someone is doing a fantastic job of keeping the whole thing under wraps.
Pretty exciting innit?  :D
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: captainkurtz on January 03, 2012, 13:42:52 pm
I've changed my mind about the whole lack of info since 2008 - no facebook, twitter, website updates, etc.

Its pretty cool for a change not knowing what is happening until the new record is dropped - just like the good old days when in between the album / tour cycle, you didn't know what was going on.  Nowadays, theres just too much fecking information and a constant bombardment of shit all designed to get you to part with your hard-earned.

Its old skool, baby.

I am seriously going to shit my pants if theres UK dates announced (highly unlikely, I know)
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Presto-digitation on January 03, 2012, 20:47:17 pm
Quote from: captainkurtz on January 03, 2012, 13:42:52 pm
I've changed my mind about the whole lack of info since 2008 - no facebook, twitter, website updates, etc.

Its pretty cool for a change not knowing what is happening until the new record is dropped - just like the good old days when in between the album / tour cycle, you didn't know what was going on.  Nowadays, theres just too much fecking information and a constant bombardment of shit all designed to get you to part with your hard-earned.

Its old skool, baby.

I am seriously going to shit my pants if theres UK dates announced (highly unlikely, I know)


Remember that this is just a first round of dates, so don't be too discouraged right away.

You bring up an excellent point about us being a bit spoiled by the way things are done today.  True enough in the "old days" you had to wait until you heard the bloody tune on the radio or saw the video, if during the MTV generation.  We've gotten so accustomed to news just streaming out, almost as if we're the source (sort of feels like that to 'break' some tidbit on a forum), that we've lost our patience.  So thank you for the reminder.  Yes, it is kind of fun and refreshing. 
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Andy42g on January 03, 2012, 20:49:23 pm
http://www.vhnd.com/2012/01/02/van-halen-to-perform-at-new-yorks-cafe-wha-this-thursday/

Looks like this one is true. Live set in Greenwich Village.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Presto-digitation on January 03, 2012, 20:50:31 pm
(With the album barely a month away now, it is indeed odd that there's no pre-order or any info at all on amazon.com)
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: captainkurtz on January 03, 2012, 21:40:11 pm
New single - Tattoo

Opening Band for tour - Kool and the Gang!!

Tour starts in Feb in Louisville.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Andy42g on January 04, 2012, 00:10:13 am
http://www.vhnd.com/2012/01/03/exclusive-van-halen-update-tattoo-next-week-tour-in-february/

(http://www.vhnd.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/VHND_Dave_Eddie.jpg)
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Andy42g on January 04, 2012, 00:10:56 am
Quote from: captainkurtz on January 03, 2012, 21:40:11 pm
Opening Band for tour - Kool and the Gang!!

Genius.  :)
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Presto-digitation on January 04, 2012, 14:40:38 pm
Quote from: Andy42g on January 04, 2012, 00:10:56 am
Genius.  :)


I thinks so too.  Bob Marley's son opened on their '07-'08 tour.

Where did the Kool & The Gang info come from?  I didn't notice that on vhnd...and of course I'm passing this along without a link to others who are asking....   ;)
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: captainkurtz on January 04, 2012, 19:31:03 pm
Info came from an English VH twitter fan account.  Haven't found anywhere that corroborates the info.

Would be a great support, I think.  For those suggesting VH is a dictatorship ran by Ed - I would imagine Roth was instrumental in choosing these supports - I can certainly recall him praising the likes of Shalimar etc in the 80's
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Presto-digitation on January 04, 2012, 21:26:22 pm
I believe you're right about that.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Andy42g on January 05, 2012, 11:41:44 am
http://www.vhnd.com/2012/01/05/tonight-van-halen-live/
Tonight- Van halen live. Kind of has a nice ring to it :)
Will be all over the interweb tomorrow - cat absolutely out of the bag.
Good luck to them - hope they rock the place.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: captainkurtz on January 05, 2012, 13:02:19 pm
New record called 'A different kind of truth', apparently.

I like it.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Andy42g on January 05, 2012, 13:34:09 pm
Quote from: captainkurtz on January 05, 2012, 13:02:19 pm
New record called 'A different kind of truth', apparently.
I like it.

:)
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Presto-digitation on January 05, 2012, 15:04:06 pm
I do too.  I'm glad it's not another CU2Nite kind of crap. 
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: captainkurtz on January 05, 2012, 15:13:18 pm
No press conference or Q&A tonight apparently.

Er, when exactly are they going to announce the dates for the tour that goes on sale next week and starts next month?
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: JonL on January 05, 2012, 19:05:33 pm
If they're doing it really old skool, they should put the dates out, and announce the availability dates, with no advance sales or anything (other than fan cub members, if there is such a thing nowadays), a genuine free for all.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Andy42g on January 05, 2012, 19:18:27 pm
Cafe Wha
(http://www.vhnd.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/Cafe_Wha.jpg)
Oh for a ticket for this... 8)
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: captainkurtz on January 05, 2012, 20:07:05 pm
Testicles working overtime now.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Presto-digitation on January 05, 2012, 20:52:06 pm
Quote from: JonL on January 05, 2012, 19:05:33 pm
If they're doing it really old skool, they should put the dates out, and announce the availability dates, with no advance sales or anything (other than fan cub members, if there is such a thing nowadays), a genuine free for all.


Prince has been doing something very similar on his most recent tour.  Announcing a date a handful of days before the show.  It works.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: captainkurtz on January 05, 2012, 21:59:42 pm
Madison Square Garden - feb 28th/march 1st
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: captainkurtz on January 06, 2012, 00:04:43 am
Deluxe version of cd contains 4 track live DVD.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Presto-digitation on January 06, 2012, 00:22:19 am
Roth confirms album title in autograph session:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihtVjVT6mL0&feature=player_embedded
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Andy42g on January 06, 2012, 01:05:08 am
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/cafewhanyc

Live stream of the gig. 1am our time.  :o

I waited.... and of course nothing. Oh well.  It was almost great. :-\
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Presto-digitation on January 06, 2012, 04:41:33 am
Setlist:

Back at the headquarters, we just got the initial set list for tonight's live event at Cafe Wha? More to follow...

■This just in... You Really Got Me
■Runnin' With The Devil
■Somebody Get Me A Doctor
■Everybody Wants Some
She's The Woman (new tune - old demo)
■Dance The Night Away
■Panama
■Hot For Teacher
■Ice Cream Man
■Ain't Talkin Bout Love
■Jump
■Beautiful Girls
■Unchained

VAN HALEN tour dates:

Feb. 18 - Louisville, KY @ KFC Yum! Center
Feb. 20 - Auburn Hills, MI - The Palace Of Auburn Hills
Feb. 22 - Indianapolis, IN - Bankers Life Fieldhouse
Feb. 24 - Chicago, IL - United Center
Feb. 28 - New York, NY - Madison Square Garden Arena -
Mar. 01 - New York, NY - Madison Square Garden Arena
Mar. 03 - Uncasville, CT - Mohegan Arena
Mar. 05 - Philadelphia, PA - Wells Fargo Center
Mar. 09 - Buffalo, NY - First Niagara Center
Mar. 11 - Boston, MA - TD Garden
Mar. 15 - Montreal, QCBell Centre
Mar. 17 - Toronto, ON - Air Canada Centre
Mar. 21 - Ottawa, ON - Scotiabank Place
Mar. 24 - Atlantic City, NJ - Atlantic City Boardwalk Hall
Mar. 28 - Washington, DC - Verizon Center
Mar. 30 - Pittsburgh, PA - Consol Energy Center
Apr. 01 - Rosemont, IL - Allstate Arena
Apr. 10 - Sunrise, FL - BankAtlantic Center
Apr. 12 - Tampa, FL - Tampa Bay Times Forum
Apr. 14 - Orlando, FL - Amway Center
Apr. 16 - Jacksonville, FL - Jacksonville Veterans Mem. Arena
Apr. 19 - Atlanta, GA - Philips Arena
Apr. 21 - Greensboro, NC - Greensboro Coliseum Complex
Apr. 25 - Charlotte, NC - Time Warner Cable Arena
Apr. 27 - Nashville, TN - Bridgestone Arena
May 01 - Tulsa, OK - BOK Center
May 05 - Tacoma, WA - Tacoma Dome
May 07 - Vancouver, BC - Rogers Arena
May 09 - Calgary, AB - Scotiabank Saddledome
May 11 - Edmonton, AB - Rexall Place
May 17 - Winnipeg, MB - MTS Centre
May 19 - Saint Paul, MN - Xcel Energy Center
May 22 - Kansas City, MO - Sprint Center
May 24 - Denver, CO - Pepsi Center
May 27 - Las Vegas, NV - MGM Grand Garden Arena
Jun. 01 - Los Angeles, CA - Staples Center
Jun. 03 - Oakland, CA - Oracle Arena
Jun. 05 - San Jose, CA - HP Pavilion At San Jose
Jun. 12 - Anaheim, CA - Honda Center
Jun. 14 - San Diego, CA - Viejas Arena
Jun. 16 - Phoenix, AZ - US Airways Center
Jun. 20 - Dallas, TX - American Airlines Center
Jun. 22 - San Antonio, TX - AT&T Center
Jun. 24 - Houston, TX - Toyota Center
Jun. 26 - New Orleans, LA - New Orleans Arena

Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Presto-digitation on January 06, 2012, 05:16:10 am
A new / old taste from the new Van Halen record....here in its original form, but reworked for tonight's show and, apparently, on the new album.  There are other bits of songs that clearly went on to become other song bits, so I would imagine they've been exised for something new.  This song predates the first Van Halen record and, from what I understand, was recorded on the demo Gene Simmons funded when they were shopping for a label:

She's The Woman

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47OpCt16Wzc&feature=share

Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Andy42g on January 06, 2012, 08:23:35 am
 :-\ No actual new material then ? Yeah - we've all got the Gene Simmons demos (there was a great remaster of the original tapes released by the vhboots guys a few years back: http://www.vhboots.com/completezero.html) and the stuff on there which didn't make the first 2 records  was generally plundered in some way or other for later albums. I really hope the new album isn't a load of rehashed old stuff - surely they are capable of writing some new material?
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: captainkurtz on January 06, 2012, 08:30:19 am
Its pretty common knowledge that theyve been using very old material for the new record - I'm sure there is some new stuff on their as well, though.

I wonder if they come to Europe in the summer - they rumoured to be playing Sonisphere which should mean a little warm in London.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Matt2112 on January 06, 2012, 12:18:57 pm
Quote from: Presto-digitation on January 06, 2012, 04:41:33 am■Dance The Night Away
■Panama
■Hot For Teacher
■Ice Cream Man
■Ain't Talkin Bout Love
■Jump
■Beautiful Girls
■Unchained


Need Kleenex...  :o
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Analog RH on January 06, 2012, 12:42:42 pm

Clips from last night all over YouTube. I particularly like this one  ;D

Everybody Wants Some (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1j81-cMil1I)
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: DaveC on January 06, 2012, 18:04:29 pm
Think it sounds canny - I'll be up for any (local) Euro dates.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Thenop on January 06, 2012, 20:01:29 pm
Tattoo artwork is now on Amazon,... still no clip...
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Presto-digitation on January 06, 2012, 21:25:46 pm
30 second clip of TATTOO:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Tattoo/dp/B006UIZ86W/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1325876664&sr=8-1

No real sense of the dynamic, but the vocals are solid.  Got a nice groove to it.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Slim on January 06, 2012, 22:13:35 pm
I like that.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Presto-digitation on January 07, 2012, 00:38:46 am
^ (faints)
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: JonL on January 07, 2012, 00:59:48 am
Keeping clear until release time.......so far.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Presto-digitation on January 07, 2012, 01:04:49 am
Van Halen's "A Different Kind Of Truth" - Tracklisting:

1. Tattoo
2. She's The Woman
3. You and Your Blues
4. China Town
5. Blood and Fire
6. Bullethead
7. As Is
8. Honeybabysweetiedoll
9. The Trouble With Never
10. Outta Space
11. Stay Frosty
12. Big River
13. Beats Workin'
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Presto-digitation on January 07, 2012, 01:32:28 am
Bullethead is a demo.  Here's a take on the song for anyone who's not heard it and wants a taste:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LwJ4ym7AlX4&feature=share

This tune and She's The Woman are going to make nice ROCKING additions to this record.  Not sure how many others are or have been derived from demos.  I'm not much of an unreleased material afficianado.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: JonL on January 07, 2012, 13:24:31 pm
Hagar seems to dismissively think that these are derived from stuff that was written before he joined (the first time).
Is this so, or is there any NEW stuff?

I don't care, as long as it's good though.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: mickpaz2112 on January 07, 2012, 14:14:29 pm
Here it is folks! A world exclusive for MelodicRock.com - the hugely sought after Van Halen track listing for the album A Different Kind Of Truth! And it goes like this:

1. Tattoo 2. She's The Woman 3. You and Your Blues 4. China Town 5. Blood and Fire 6. Bullethead 7. As Is 8. Honeybabysweetiedoll 9. The Trouble With Never 10. Outta Space 11. Stay Frosty 12. Big River 13. Beats Workin'

I also have an update on the configuration of the Deluxe Edition CD - the bonus DVD features 4 Brand New acoustic performance videos (no further details of what those are).

There was a sample of the single Tattoo online at Amazon UK, but it has been removed. Bah! But thanks to YouTube: www.youtube.com/watch?v=fE6LI1xISto


One more update folks! Another exclusive and the missing part of the puzzle. The Deluxe Edition bonus DVD will feature the following: Bonus DVD disc containing 4 BRAND NEW acoustic performance videos titled The Downtown Sessions.
Tracks: Panama, You And Your Blues, You Really Got Me & Beautiful Girls.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Presto-digitation on January 07, 2012, 15:52:10 pm
Quote from: JonL on January 07, 2012, 13:24:31 pm
Hagar seems to dismissively think that these are derived from stuff that was written before he joined (the first time).
Is this so, or is there any NEW stuff?

I don't care, as long as it's good though.


Impossible to tell without hearing them first.  The only two that kept the same names were the two mentioned above.  We'll see. 
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Presto-digitation on January 08, 2012, 03:10:28 am
Available for pre-order on amazon.com (US anyhow)
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Andy42g on January 09, 2012, 00:06:20 am
Well - away from the internet for a couple of days and back to find that feck me the band looks, err, on Fire. New track sounds ace. Bullethead! Of all the oldies - not a bad one to go for. 13 tracks - and a bonus DVD... :)  Come on.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Presto-digitation on January 09, 2012, 00:29:23 am
Indeed.  Itching to hear that new single entirely on Tuesday. 
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Andy42g on January 09, 2012, 00:43:42 am
Pre -ordered album & DVD from Play.com :)
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: captainkurtz on January 09, 2012, 08:39:33 am
Quote from: Andy42g on January 09, 2012, 00:43:42 am
Pre -ordered album & DVD from Play.com :)

Pre-ordered from HMV, where its £1 cheaper and I'm likely to get it before the release day.  :)
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Analog RH on January 09, 2012, 11:28:57 am
Quote from: captainkurtz on January 09, 2012, 08:39:33 am
Pre-ordered from HMV, where its £1 cheaper and I'm likely to get it before the release day.  :)


As long as they don't go into administration before then.......  ;)
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Matt2112 on January 09, 2012, 22:28:02 pm
Absolutely loving the Youtube footage from the other night. :)
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Presto-digitation on January 09, 2012, 23:46:29 pm
Van Halen, 'Tattoo' - Song Review w/ extended preview:
http://ultimateclassicrock.com/van-halen-tattoo/

Van Halen's new single 'Tattoo' has arrived, and it's a blend of old and new styles that's sure to stir some fan debate and heighten curiosity about the band's upcoming album 'A Different Kind of Truth.'

The first song to emerge from the new record, 'She's the Woman,' as debuted at the band's New York City club show last week, was taken nearly intact from the band's original 1976 demo tapes. 'Tattoo' has a clear link to an old unreleased VH track as well, sharing the main riff and basic verse structure with 'Down in Flames,' which according to the Van Halen Encyclopedia, was performed several times on the band's 1978 tour.

The 2012 version, 'Tattoo,' has brand new lyrics, a fresh chorus and some more modern touches. To be clear, that's "more modern," not "modern." The whole song has a bit of a laid-back ZZ Top vibe, although the light backing keyboard bed and super-clean production puts us more in the territory of 1990′s 'Recycler' than, say, 1979′s 'Deguello.' The effects on Roth's vocal intro and chorus sound more like something off a late-era Cars record.

(Can't believe we went this far without mentioning: Eddie sounds typically fantastic throughout, of course, with a classic and very traditional "in case you forgot..." solo highlighting the song's back half.)

Overall, the song seems a slightly odd, relaxed choice for the first single and lead-off track on such a momentous album, although there's a definite "grower" appeal that comes up on repeated plays. Some of us old-school fans were undoubtedly hoping for something a bit more aggressive and raw sounding, but this is after all the single so hopefully (and presumably) we'll get those kicks on other tracks.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Andy42g on January 09, 2012, 23:51:06 pm
Quote from: Presto-digitation on January 09, 2012, 23:46:29 pm
Van Halen, 'Tattoo' - Song Review w/ extended preview:
http://ultimateclassicrock.com/van-halen-tattoo/

Van Halen's new single 'Tattoo' has arrived, and it's a blend of old and new styles that's sure to stir some fan debate and heighten curiosity about the band's upcoming album 'A Different Kind of Truth.'

The first song to emerge from the new record, 'She's the Woman,' as debuted at the band's New York City club show last week, was taken nearly intact from the band's original 1976 demo tapes. 'Tattoo' has a clear link to an old unreleased VH track as well, sharing the main riff and basic verse structure with 'Down in Flames,' which according to the Van Halen Encyclopedia, was performed several times on the band's 1978 tour.

The 2012 version, 'Tattoo,' has brand new lyrics, a fresh chorus and some more modern touches. To be clear, that's "more modern," not "modern." The whole song has a bit of a laid-back ZZ Top vibe, although the light backing keyboard bed and super-clean production puts us more in the territory of 1990′s 'Recycler' than, say, 1979′s 'Deguello.' The effects on Roth's vocal intro and chorus sound more like something off a late-era Cars record.

(Can't believe we went this far without mentioning: Eddie sounds typically fantastic throughout, of course, with a classic and very traditional "in case you forgot..." solo highlighting the song's back half.)

Overall, the song seems a slightly odd, relaxed choice for the first single and lead-off track on such a momentous album, although there's a definite "grower" appeal that comes up on repeated plays. Some of us old-school fans were undoubtedly hoping for something a bit more aggressive and raw sounding, but this is after all the single so hopefully (and presumably) we'll get those kicks on other tracks.

Sounds most interesting. Liked the clip. Down in Flames is on some of the pre VH1 live boots and is a good 'un.
Dave's voice sounded in fine fettle for the club show.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Presto-digitation on January 09, 2012, 23:54:02 pm
http://itunes.apple.com/au/album/tattoo/id493505966?i=493505968
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Andy42g on January 10, 2012, 00:00:42 am
1 minute sample on Aussie iTunes store.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Andy42g on January 10, 2012, 00:01:47 am
Am liking this a lot. And I've not heard the guitar solo yet...
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Presto-digitation on January 10, 2012, 00:42:17 am
I've heard about 90 seconds...verse-chorus/verse-chorus.  Liking it as well.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Andy42g on January 10, 2012, 00:43:28 am
Wish someone would hurry up and illegally upload it :)
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Presto-digitation on January 10, 2012, 03:23:14 am
Have heard the entire tune now.  Very cool.  I dig it..!
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Andy42g on January 10, 2012, 08:39:39 am
Just downloaded from Amazon. Great stuff.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: captainkurtz on January 10, 2012, 09:11:35 am
DLR has tweeted te URL for the video.

Can't watch on my mobile.

Knackers.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: captainkurtz on January 10, 2012, 10:05:16 am
Love it.

Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Presto-digitation on January 10, 2012, 13:55:16 pm
Props to Dave. His performance on Me Wise Magic, while a fine enough song, was much shakier than he is here 16 years later. You don't always know what to expect with Dave, especially live, but here in the studio (fixes or not)...he did quite well. People really ragging on his voice on the song are off base. There are some moments of reach, indeed, but as there are with most aged rockers on some level or another. Quite honestly his was the performance I most worried about and one song in, he's doing fine. If the rest of the record carries this kind of vocal performance and swagger, I'll be pleased.

I know there's a reliance on old material going into this thing, but also nice to hear a great guitar tone from Edward too. After the noodling quality of 3 and some of the hyper compressed tones of some of the other one off tunes (Up For Breakfast...the earlier Dave tunes....3), I think the tonality is a marked improvement. I miss Mike, but this song doesn't really scream for high backgrounds either. Works naturally without it. Not sure what they're doing on the studio version of She's The Woman, but Wolfie pulled that off fine, so I'm guessing he provided backgrounds (with Ed) where needed? We'll see.

A nice little curveball, but hardly a bad one. I think some folks legitmately don't like this song and that's perfectly fine and others were simply caught off guard by a tune not quite as frantic or riffy as the afore-mentioned She's The Woman, especially since they just played that one live and got fans excited. But I like when the band zigs instead of zags too. Those throwing the baby out with the bath water I'm going to say were a bit itchy to look for flaws to begin with. Hyperbole is RAMPANT in the age of the internet, but it's just something you get used to.

For people of realistic expectations this was a fun little twist and in some ways I'm as excited as ever if not more so to hear the other tracks. For me tempo's not the key. Some people only like it if the song makes them want to bounce across the room, but this song had a killer cool vibe to it and some lyrics that are fecking FAR more interesting than what Sammy brought to the table in '04. (Up For Breakfast and the junior high level innuendos and guffaws!). Dave is great with lines like "...housewife to bombshell in the time it took to get that new tattoo" and the line just rolls right out too. Nicely done. Another verse I love is: "Uncle Danny had a gold tattoo; He fought for the unions, some of us still do; On my shoulder is a number of the chapter he was in; That number is forever like the struggle here to win..."

I'd add to that list the delivery "....so very autobiographic." He just exudes those old "Dave-isms" there.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Matt2112 on January 10, 2012, 14:19:25 pm
Quote from: Presto-digitation on January 10, 2012, 03:23:14 am
Have heard the entire tune now.  Very cool.  I dig it..!
Quote from: Andy42g on January 10, 2012, 08:39:39 am
Just downloaded from Amazon. Great stuff.

Quote from: captainkurtz on January 10, 2012, 10:05:16 am
Love it.


Right on all counts!!  Lots of dives and tapping down the neck and all sorts of things that stir my loins!!  CAN NOT WAIT for the album. ;D
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: captainkurtz on January 10, 2012, 14:38:54 pm
I dont miss Michael Anthony one iota.  He might be a nice guy, but lets face it, he is also the luckiest man in rock.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Matt2112 on January 10, 2012, 15:02:36 pm
Yes, I really don't see what the fuss is about Michael.  Wolfie seems a more-than-adequately accomplished player and none of the songs I've heard so far would be improved by helium backing vocals.

Bring on the album and (hopefully UK) tour.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Presto-digitation on January 10, 2012, 15:03:34 pm
Quote from: captainkurtz on January 10, 2012, 14:38:54 pm
I dont miss Michael Anthony one iota.  He might be a nice guy, but lets face it, he is also the luckiest man in rock.


He's got a fine background voice.  Wolfie is already at his level or better as a bassist.  Not convinced?  Go watch the live clip of She's the Woman from Cafe Wha?  (the one filmed right in front of him).  Wolfie lacks Mike's vocal abilities, no doubt, but in the studio who knows what's going on?  You can achieve things in lots of different ways.  This tune, for instance, doesn't call for the banshee cries in the chorus or in the harmonies.  I dare say the vocals perfectly suit the song.  Whether or not Mike will be miss sporadically on other tunes remains to be seen, but I didn't notice his absence on Tattoo.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: BaldiePete on January 10, 2012, 17:13:44 pm
Whole song and official video

http://youtu.be/3WfQ-hV3WtA
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Pricey on January 10, 2012, 17:19:10 pm
im uncomfy with his kid being in the band , im sure hes a good player , it just doesnt feel look  right at all , maybe if he grows his hair a bit ...
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Andy42g on January 10, 2012, 17:23:11 pm
Quote from: Matt2112 on January 10, 2012, 15:02:36 pm
Yes, I really don't see what the fuss is about Michael.  Wolfie seems a more-than-adequately accomplished player and none of the songs I've heard so far would be improved by helium backing vocals.

Mike was part of the VH sound - and he was (and still is) a very good bassist. I think the oldi songs live definitely miss Mike but the new version of the band sounds different, and is different. Woflie definitely looks and sounds like he's going to hold his own and good luck to the lad.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Andy42g on January 10, 2012, 17:26:20 pm
meanwhile back with Tattoo - listened to it a few times at lunch time on the MP3 player. It really is very good indeed. It like Van Halen - but matured in a good way. One quibble would be the pointless background keyboard wash but otherwise it's pertty fecking magnificent. And I too cannot wait to hear the rest of the new material.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Andy42g on January 10, 2012, 17:30:43 pm
Quote from: captainkurtz on January 10, 2012, 14:38:54 pm
....he is also the luckiest man in rock.

Nah - that would be the shite drummer Nick Mason.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: zoony on January 10, 2012, 18:10:10 pm
Quote from: Andy42g on January 10, 2012, 17:30:43 pm
Nah - that would be the shite drummer Nick Mason.


He's better than Ringo Starr and Charlie Watts!
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Andy42g on January 10, 2012, 18:19:23 pm
Quote from: zoony on January 10, 2012, 18:10:10 pm
He's better than Ringo Starr and Charlie Watts!

Like feck he is.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Andy42g on January 10, 2012, 18:29:00 pm
Quote from: BaldiePete on January 10, 2012, 17:13:44 pm
Whole song and official video

http://youtu.be/3WfQ-hV3WtA

Cool.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Matt2112 on January 10, 2012, 18:31:41 pm
Quote from: Andy42g on January 10, 2012, 17:26:20 pmOne quibble would be the pointless background keyboard wash


Not having that - that's a major reason why I like it.  :P ;) ;D

Anyway, it's nice to have a thread free of "The New Songs Are/Album Will Be Shit" posts; we don't want anyone spoiling our circle-jerk.  :-X  :o  ;D
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Andy42g on January 10, 2012, 18:35:48 pm
Tattoo now on CD and on repeat on the hi fi - loud. :)
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Andy42g on January 10, 2012, 18:47:06 pm
Quote from: Matt2112 on January 10, 2012, 18:31:41 pm
Not having that - that's a major reason why I like it.  :P ;) ;D

Wierdo  ;)  ::)

Quote
Anyway, it's nice to have a thread free of "The New Songs Are/Album Will Be Shit" posts; we don't want anyone spoiling our circle-jerk.  :-X  :o  ;D

:) Not too much to detract about with this though surely? It absolutely is not shit.  :D
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: captainkurtz on January 10, 2012, 18:47:15 pm
Quote from: zoony on January 10, 2012, 18:10:10 pm
He's better than Ringo Starr and Charlie Watts!


They're both brilliant drummers!
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: captainkurtz on January 10, 2012, 18:47:50 pm
$895 for a front row ticket and some laminated tat.

Bargain.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: captainkurtz on January 10, 2012, 18:48:51 pm
Quote from: Pricey on January 10, 2012, 17:19:10 pm
im uncomfy with his kid being in the band , im sure hes a good player , it just doesnt feel look  right at all , maybe if he grows his hair a bit ...

'uncomfy'?  ;D

You just like the beard/mullet look.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: captainkurtz on January 10, 2012, 18:51:26 pm
Quote from: Andy42g on January 10, 2012, 17:23:11 pm
Mike was part of the VH sound - and he was (and still is) a very good bassist. .

He was part of the sound because, er, he played the bass.

He's a competent bass player....'very good' is stretching it a bit.

Its telling that Ed wanted MA out of the band as early as 1981 - Billy Sheehan is on record as saying he was asked to join in the 80's.  Its also been said he didn't really play that much bass from 1984 onwards.............

Still, he's a nice guy.  :P
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Andy42g on January 10, 2012, 19:00:38 pm
Quote from: captainkurtz on January 10, 2012, 18:51:26 pm
He's a competent bass player....'very good' is stretching it a bit.

He had to keep up with EVH and AVH !

QuoteIts telling that Ed wanted MA out of the band as early as 1981 - Billy Sheehan is on record as saying he was asked to join in the 80's. 

Billy Sheehan would have been awful for that band. They already had two lead instrumentalists thrashing it out. EVH's ego could not have handled it for a start  Mike was perfect - he sat in there, locked it down and was integral to how the band grooved. Plus he sang well.  And he was a nice guy.  :)

Quote
Its also been said he didn't really play that much bass from 1984 onwards.............

Hmm - apart from on all those live shows they did with Sammy?
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: captainkurtz on January 10, 2012, 19:02:46 pm
Quote from: Andy42g on January 10, 2012, 19:00:38 pm

Hmm - apart from on all those live shows they did with Sammy?


I meant on the studio records from '1984' onwards.  ::)
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: captainkurtz on January 10, 2012, 19:03:38 pm
Quote from: Andy42g on January 10, 2012, 19:00:38 pm

Billy Sheehan would have been awful for that band. They already had two lead instrumentalists thrashing it out. EVH's ego could not have handled it for a start  Mike was perfect - he sat in there, locked it down and was integral to how the band grooved. Plus he sang well.  And he was a nice guy.  :)
Hmm - apart from on all those live shows they did with Sammy?

Agreed.

Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Presto-digitation on January 10, 2012, 19:33:22 pm
Quote from: Matt2112 on January 10, 2012, 18:31:41 pm
Not having that - that's a major reason why I like it.  :P ;) ;D

Anyway, it's nice to have a thread free of "The New Songs Are/Album Will Be Shit" posts; we don't want anyone spoiling our circle-jerk.  :-X  :o  ;D


Even Slim liked the soundbyte the other day.  End of days...
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Andy42g on January 10, 2012, 20:33:40 pm
Quote from: captainkurtz on January 10, 2012, 19:02:46 pm
I meant on the studio records from '1984' onwards.  ::)

I know. Still can't buy that. They all seemed pretty good together up until at least F.U.C.K. and it still sounds like Mike on the bass even on Balance - and he still got his quarter of the publishing. But who knows what happens when you are dealing with EVH and his drink and drugged frazzled mind?  :-\
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Captain Ron on January 10, 2012, 20:47:03 pm
Had a listen to Tattoo and it's not bad but not exactly earth shattering either. For VH it sounds a tad tame to my ears. My pulse did rise a little during the guitar solo though. EVH is still one of the THE great guitarists. Hopefully it will grow on me.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Exiled Yorkie on January 10, 2012, 20:56:12 pm
I cannot believe they are touring with Kool and the Gang, lol
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Analog RH on January 10, 2012, 21:09:23 pm
I likes it.

And compared with Van Halen III its the second coming......

Similarly excited about the album. Please god can they tour over here.......
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: JonL on January 10, 2012, 21:15:50 pm
Quote from: Exiled Yorkie on January 10, 2012, 20:56:12 pm
I cannot believe they are touring with Kool and the Gang, lol


It'll make for a bloody great night.

If you don't love this, you hate music!! 8)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BaLNIH9Ic1M
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: captainkurtz on January 10, 2012, 21:40:42 pm
Id fecking love to see K&TG rather than some shit metal band.

Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Analog RH on January 10, 2012, 21:40:57 pm
Quote from: Exiled Yorkie on January 10, 2012, 20:56:12 pm
I cannot believe they are touring with Kool and the Gang, lol


Quote from: JonL on January 10, 2012, 21:15:50 pm
It'll make for a bloody great night.

If you don't love this, you hate music!! 8)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BaLNIH9Ic1M


Pretty much everything Kool and the Gang released between 1969 and 1976 is solid gold.......
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Nick on January 10, 2012, 22:11:42 pm
Enjoying this lots, put a smile on my face and a few DLR moves across the kitchen.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Presto-digitation on January 10, 2012, 23:19:22 pm
I'll say that the reaction on this board is better than on some of American rock boards I frequent.  With no offense intended, I'm a bit surprised there's less cynicism coming from your end of things.  I'm happy to see it too.

I do have to share this, though:

I saw one guy post this: "...was going to post something derogatory but now i've actually heard their new song. there's nothing bad i can say at all. really like it a hell of a lot."

So basically he was ready to slam it without listening to it? That sounds about right. ;) That's your average idiot over here.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Matt2112 on January 10, 2012, 23:48:22 pm
Yes, I've read a host of pontification on facebook about it - but I reckon many of them already had their knives out long before today. 

I love the groove and swagger of it, love what sounds to me to be a drop-D riff at the start, a synth always helps, nice chorus hook and the tapped harmonic on the typically dazzling solo is absolutely delicious.  And that contrastingly gentle outro is quite lovely.

My band mates aren't impressed, however, so there's no chance of us doing throwing it in at our next gig...  ::)
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Presto-digitation on January 11, 2012, 03:24:35 am

posted on the Hoffman board not sure how legit this is (mini review)


1. Tattoo

You've all heard this one - not a bad groove, would have been better later in the album

2. She's The Woman

This should have been the kick off. Old time VH feel, great rocker with DLR on top form

3. You and Your Blues

Surprisingly laid back. Probably the coolest VH track I've heard. killer solo - didnt think Eddie had this sort of thing in him

4. China Town

This seems another oldie - a bit like Running With The Devil, big riff and big vocals. Wolfie does a great job on this one.

5. Blood and Fire

I'm On Fire 2. Fast paced rocker with classic VH sound. Solo could have come from any of the first 2 albums

6. Bullethead

Another Full on rocker. Hot For Teacher drum beat. A bit ordinary.

7. As Is

This was a real surprise. Could be Hagar era VH. Melodic, slower, understated in many ways. Best track on the album.

8. sweetiebabydoll

Don't like this. More bubblegum DLR solo than VH. Skip

9. The Trouble With Never

Another 'ballad'. Solid but a bit safe.

10. Outta Space

Outta Love more like. It has that groove to it.

11. Stay Frosty

This is another I think I've heard before. Women and Children first feel to it.

12. Big River

Another huge riff and classic Eddy fast solo. DLR on top form

13. Beats Workin'

Similar feel to She's A Woman. A great ending to a better-than-anticipated album.



.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Rob Barchetta on January 11, 2012, 14:29:45 pm
'Tattoo' video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WfQ-hV3WtA


I didnt know Peter Kay could play bass  :o


Just watched the vid at work, with no sound  ::)  I'll watch it again at home later with sound - hope it's less annoying with the music  ::)
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Captain Ron on January 11, 2012, 16:02:19 pm
It's an awful video. Lots of random edits and backwards video intercut with bits where it's in synch with the music. Annoyed the hell out of me.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Presto-digitation on January 11, 2012, 16:47:38 pm
I still haven't watched it.  Focused on the tune right now.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Matt2112 on January 11, 2012, 17:08:36 pm
I agree the video is rubbish.  However, the aforementioned touch harmonic is a bit of a money shot for me, like... :-X  ::)
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: captainkurtz on January 11, 2012, 17:37:13 pm
Quote from: Captain Ron on January 11, 2012, 16:02:19 pm
It's an awful video. Lots of random edits and backwards video intercut with bits where it's in synch with the music. Annoyed the hell out of me.

Like the last Rush blu ray then.  ;D
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: JonL on January 11, 2012, 17:59:52 pm
Like Red, White and Blues/Jagged Edge
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Presto-digitation on January 11, 2012, 18:17:18 pm
I've since watched the video has some terrible synching issues or Roth couldn't remember what he was miming...or BOTH.  I do like that it's a bit of a play on the Jump video and in black and white at that...but it seems poorly edited.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Andy42g on January 11, 2012, 22:30:21 pm
Love the random dog sat on the stage when Dave does the backwards filmed bit at about 2:13.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: captainkurtz on January 11, 2012, 23:00:56 pm
That's Daves dog. 

His name is Russell.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Presto-digitation on January 11, 2012, 23:02:33 pm
Word is that the album is out there now.  I've heard a few reports of leaks....especially on your side of the pond.  Keep an ear out for it fellows.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: captainkurtz on January 11, 2012, 23:27:18 pm
Pricey - get (down) on it.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Presto-digitation on January 11, 2012, 23:38:28 pm
Quote from: captainkurtz on January 11, 2012, 23:27:18 pm
Pricey - get (down) on it.


Aye!
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Rob Barchetta on January 12, 2012, 09:20:54 am
Heard 'Tattoo' on Planet Rock last nite - I was pleasantly surprised. You could tell it was EVH BUT without it sounding too OTT.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: The Letter R on January 12, 2012, 09:44:17 am
Heard the new single a couple of nights back and was pleasantly surprised - reminds me of the Skyscraper vibe from DLR solo era.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Andy42g on January 12, 2012, 10:52:06 am
Quote from: Presto-digitation on January 11, 2012, 23:02:33 pm
Word is that the album is out there now.  I've heard a few reports of leaks....especially on your side of the pond.  Keep an ear out for it fellows.

Not seen it yet.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: captainkurtz on January 12, 2012, 11:05:08 am
I think I'll wait. (no pun intended)
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Andy42g on January 12, 2012, 13:39:38 pm
Quote from: captainkurtz on January 12, 2012, 11:05:08 am
I think I'll wait. (no pun intended)

Can't do that.  Gonna be on it as soon as it's out there. I have forked out for an official copy so it's OK.  ::)
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Presto-digitation on January 12, 2012, 15:12:20 pm
Quote from: Andy42g on January 12, 2012, 13:39:38 pm
Can't do that.  Gonna be on it as soon as it's out there. I have forked out for an official copy so it's OK.  ::)


;D Same here.  Do give a fellow a heads up if it comes "available," eh?  I will surely do the same.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Presto-digitation on January 12, 2012, 15:15:04 pm
Quote from: The Letter R on January 12, 2012, 09:44:17 am
Heard the new single a couple of nights back and was pleasantly surprised - reminds me of the Skyscraper vibe from DLR solo era.


I think that's a really good call.  How ironic that those first couple DLR solo albums were considered really good VH albums compared to what Sam Halen was doing at that time (at least here in the States)...and that's a bit what this tune sounds like.  We've come full circle.  I can also hear a Big Trouble vibe to it from Eat 'Em & Smile, with its laid back grooooove.  They don't sound alike, but they may be cut from the same cloth.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Andy42g on January 12, 2012, 16:12:27 pm
Quote from: Presto-digitation on January 12, 2012, 15:12:20 pm
;D Same here.  Do give a fellow a heads up if it comes "available," eh?  I will surely do the same.

Certainly will.  :)
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Presto-digitation on January 13, 2012, 05:18:01 am
In related news, I heard from one retailer in the US that was invited to a playback of the album. He commented to me: "Overall, heavier than I expected. Highlights were China Town, Stay Frosty (think Ice Cream Man), Big River, Beats Workin' (reminds you of DOA in the verse). She's The Woman is a great track, we all thought it was a better track than the single."

Security for the presentation was super tight though - with the exec from Interscope flying in especially with a coded CD and then taking it back with him when he left.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: captainkurtz on January 13, 2012, 11:49:22 am
Vanhalenuk tweeting of rumours of a special guest slot to Sabbath at Download and a UK tour in September.

There's some conjecture as to whether Sabbath will be able to play Download given the recent news of Iommi's illness.  Apparently, they were due to be announced as a headliner at Coachella (which takes place in April) but this was pulled at the last minute.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Andy42g on January 13, 2012, 13:36:19 pm
Quote from: captainkurtz on January 13, 2012, 11:49:22 am
Apparently, they were due to be announced as a headliner at Coachella (which takes place in April) but this was pulled at the last minute.

:o They do this a lot don't they?
Uk dates would be fab though.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: captainkurtz on January 13, 2012, 13:52:12 pm
Sorry Andy - Sabbath were due to be announced as a headliner, not VH.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: captainkurtz on January 13, 2012, 13:55:05 pm
Would have been great to have VH playing the half time super owl thing next month - absolutely massive exposure.  Madonna has been confirmed, though.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Matt2112 on January 13, 2012, 13:58:56 pm
Quote from: captainkurtz on January 13, 2012, 13:55:05 pm
Would have been great to have VH playing the half time super owl thing next month - absolutely massive exposure.  Madonna has been confirmed, though.


Yes - but she's getting on a bit for, um, massive exposure.  ;D
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Andy42g on January 13, 2012, 14:13:10 pm
Quote from: captainkurtz on January 13, 2012, 13:52:12 pm
Sorry Andy - Sabbath were due to be announced as a headliner, not VH.

Ah - Ok. Well that stands to reason with Tony whatsisname's illness.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Andy42g on January 13, 2012, 14:14:32 pm
Quote from: Matt2112 on January 13, 2012, 13:58:56 pm
Yes - but she's getting on a bit for, um, massive exposure.  ;D

Prince, Springsteen and Tom Petty have all done this in recent years. 30 mins or  so - bit like a Live Aid set. Prince was fecking phenomenal.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: JonL on January 14, 2012, 16:41:29 pm
I cracked. Listening to Tattoo now.

It's growing on me as it goes on. the backing vox ain't an issue for me, and the keys add a nice melody.
DLR sounds awesome, and the band is clearly having a blast.
It has what I can only describe as a big band swing vibe that they had with Roth back in the day.

Thumbs up.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Andy42g on January 16, 2012, 11:45:23 am
http://www.vhnd.com/2012/01/15/jim-florentines-van-halen-cafe-wha-podcast-part-two/

More audio from Cafe Wha gig.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: captainkurtz on January 16, 2012, 13:24:12 pm
Hotly tipped for second on the bill to Sabbath still - announcement tonight.

Nice little warm up show would be nice.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Andy42g on January 16, 2012, 14:17:02 pm
Quote from: captainkurtz on January 16, 2012, 13:24:12 pm
Hotly tipped for second on the bill to Sabbath still - announcement tonight.

You'd think Sabbath would have learned from the last time VH supported them.

Quote
Nice little warm up show would be nice.

Indeed. Up north preferably.  :)
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Matt2112 on January 16, 2012, 14:20:43 pm
Quote from: Andy42g on January 16, 2012, 14:17:02 pm
You'd think Sabbath would have learned from the last time VH supported them.
Indeed. Up north preferably.  :)


Leeds O2 Academy ideally. ;)
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Andy42g on January 16, 2012, 20:28:23 pm
There's a 2011 remaster of the Warner demos up on Torrentz.com (mp3).
26 tracks.  Perfect CD quality. Great raw sound.
Always interesting to listen to - being as they are  are the bones of VH1 amd II and half of the tracks ended up pretty much unchanged,
but were given the Ted Templeman magic production treatment.
Lots of the others, or riffs from them, were lifted for subsequent Dave era albums eg Last Night -> Hang Em High and Voodoo Queen -> Mean Street.
I kind of prefer the original House of Pain
"Gonna take a lot of drugs"  ::)  :)

01 - Get The Show on the Road
02 - Voodoo Queen
03 - Babe, Don't Leave Me Alone
04 - I Wanna Be Your Lover
05 - Light in the Sky
06 - We Die Bold
07 - Bad Women
08 - Young and Wild
09 - Let's Get Rockin'
10 - Put Out The Lights
11 - Big Trouble
12 - She's The Woman
13 - Gonna Take a Lot of Drugs
14 - Runnin' With the Devil
15 - You Really Got Me
16 - Show Your Love
17 - Feel Your Love Tonight
18 - Little Dreamer
19 - On Fire
20 - House of Pain
21 - Somebody Get Me a Doctor
22 - D.O.A.
23 - Bring On The Girls
24 - In a Simple Rhyme
25 - Last Night
26 - Happy Trails

EDIT: Downloading a FLAC version of this great boot so can burn lossless to CD.
Anyone need a copy PM me.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Andy42g on January 16, 2012, 21:18:17 pm
Quote from: Matt2112 on January 16, 2012, 14:20:43 pm
Leeds O2 Academy ideally. ;)

Feck yeah  8)
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: captainkurtz on January 16, 2012, 21:21:16 pm
Right then.

Its Soundgarden supporting Sabbath.

A warm up show from them would also be most welcome.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Andy42g on January 17, 2012, 18:45:11 pm
Dave's Tattoo lytics

(http://www.vhnd.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/DLR_Hand-Written_Tattoo_Lyrics.jpg)
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: captainkurtz on January 17, 2012, 19:53:20 pm
A bit better than 'wham bam Amsterdam', then.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Presto-digitation on January 17, 2012, 22:01:55 pm
...as well as Up For Breakfast.  Yikes!
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Matt2112 on January 18, 2012, 12:31:30 pm
Hagar bitchiness about the single and EVH generally...but he would say that, wouldn't he. ::)

http://www.8263.co.uk/sites/musicpro/news/january_2012/20120118_hagar_van_halen.html (http://www.8263.co.uk/sites/musicpro/news/january_2012/20120118_hagar_van_halen.html)
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Andy42g on January 18, 2012, 12:57:19 pm
Quote from: Matt2112 on January 18, 2012, 12:31:30 pm
Hagar bitchiness about the single and EVH generally...but he would say that, wouldn't he. ::)

Would have thought Sammy could rise above it by now.  ::)
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: captainkurtz on January 18, 2012, 17:41:12 pm
 ::)

Yeah, right Sam.  Little green monster coming to visit again - and this time its not one of those aliens.  ::)
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Thenop on January 18, 2012, 18:07:21 pm
Oh well, Sammy had his heyday 40 years back when he recorded the blue print for future van Halen albums with Montrose produced by Ted Templeman.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Andy42g on January 19, 2012, 00:37:40 am
Quote from: captainkurtz on January 18, 2012, 17:41:12 pm
::)

Yeah, right Sam.  Little green monster coming to visit again - and this time its not one of those aliens.  ::)

He's only jealous that Dave is able to write intelligent lyrics.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Presto-digitation on January 19, 2012, 02:23:35 am
While he's entitled to his opinion, it's a bit like asking me to opine about the comings and goings of my ex-wife.  It's unlikely to be flowery and flattering, whether the criticism is deserved or not.  I'm pretty sure Sammy is never going to say, "Now THAT was a great Van Halen tune.  Hell yeah!!" about any cut on the album.  ;)  I'm really not all that interested in what Sammy thinks about new VH outside of merely being entertained by it.

Oh, this just popped up on VHND:

http://www.vhnd.com/2012/01/18/never-before-seen-van-halen-you-really-got-me-acoustic/

Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Bez on January 19, 2012, 09:36:10 am
Quote from: Andy42g on January 19, 2012, 00:37:40 am
He's only jealous that Dave is able to write intelligent lyrics.


While they may be better than Hagar's calling them intelligent is a bit of a stretch.... ::)
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Andy42g on January 19, 2012, 10:55:26 am
Quote from: Bez on January 19, 2012, 09:36:10 am
While they may be better than Hagar's calling them intelligent is a bit of a stretch.... ::)

:) Well at least it shows he can read ("Mousewife to Momshell"). Love the line about you'd ink stuff you wouldn't dare to say.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Presto-digitation on January 19, 2012, 13:43:13 pm
I do as well.  I also really dig the last verse about his uncle with the coal tattoo.

Oh, you might've seen this already, but here's a fan-edited version of their official Tattoo video and it's a vast improvement over the original:

http://vimeo.com/35173319
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Presto-digitation on January 20, 2012, 21:01:43 pm
Dave discusses the lyrics to Tattoo.  Cool watch:

http://www.vhnd.com/2012/01/20/exclusive-video-david-lee-roth-explains-tattoo-lyrics/
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Andy42g on January 20, 2012, 21:27:57 pm
Quote from: Presto-digitation on January 20, 2012, 21:01:43 pm
Dave discusses the lyrics to Tattoo.  Cool watch:

http://www.vhnd.com/2012/01/20/exclusive-video-david-lee-roth-explains-tattoo-lyrics/

Excellent. Nice to see Dave seeming so relaxed. Rock lyrics with >1 dimension. Crikey  :)
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: JonL on January 22, 2012, 11:49:45 am
Quote from: Presto-digitation on January 19, 2012, 02:23:35 am
Oh, this just popped up on VHND:
http://www.vhnd.com/2012/01/18/never-before-seen-van-halen-you-really-got-me-acoustic/


Messy and made me wince a little in places, but thy're enjoying things so long may it continue.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: captainkurtz on January 22, 2012, 13:46:42 pm
Dave sounds horrible, really whiny. Eds solo isn't too hot, either. Hardly Spanish Fly quality.

Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Presto-digitation on January 22, 2012, 16:18:47 pm
The single more than makes up for that acoustic session. 
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Andy42g on January 23, 2012, 00:25:22 am
Quote from: JonL on January 22, 2012, 11:49:45 am
Messy and made me wince a little in places, but thy're enjoying things so long may it continue.

Spot on. The fact that they are (Eddie is....) letting less than absolutely perfect stuff out is a positive.
They were (he was) exceedingly picky. I have the Osaka 0U812 on ROIO DVD which is amazing yet was not released officially as it was a 'sub par' performance. Madness. It's great - even better than the Toronto Balance PPV one IMHO (not officially released on DVD as the band broke up...).
Maybe now we'll see some of the archive 1984 or Fair Warning pro shot footage... ? Fat chance  :-\
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Matt2112 on January 23, 2012, 19:52:29 pm
Just watched that acoustic session video.  Great fun - stripped down, laid back, good vocals and generally nothing terribly wrong with the actual performance all round there for me. :)
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Andy42g on January 23, 2012, 20:58:14 pm
Still really enjoying Tattoo.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Presto-digitation on January 25, 2012, 04:26:05 am
A tidbit of a new tune, "Stay Frosty," will be played during tomorrow night's episode of CSI.  I don't watch that show, but it should make the rounds shortly afterward, so keep an ear open.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Presto-digitation on January 25, 2012, 18:11:16 pm
NEW preview:  Blood & Fire

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=tY7ZqN8Ksdg
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Presto-digitation on January 25, 2012, 18:51:17 pm
Has a 1984 flavor to it in some respects...some Simple Rhyme qualities too in the verse.  The backgrounds sound spry.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Dixkot on January 25, 2012, 19:03:39 pm
Quote from: Presto-digitation on January 25, 2012, 18:51:17 pm
Has a 1984 flavor to it in some respects...some Simple Rhyme qualities too in the verse.  The backgrounds sound spry.


That'll be because you probably heard it as an instrumental before as a "1984" out take.  It was also used in a movie called "The Wild Life" but was called "Ripley".
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Presto-digitation on January 25, 2012, 19:13:06 pm
Never heard it or seen that film, but it's a cool song.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Andy42g on January 25, 2012, 20:08:46 pm
Quote from: Presto-digitation on January 25, 2012, 18:11:16 pm
NEW preview:  Blood & Fire

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=tY7ZqN8Ksdg

Oh yes.  :)
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Presto-digitation on January 25, 2012, 21:06:07 pm
:)
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Presto-digitation on January 26, 2012, 00:26:45 am
Another!

The Trouble With Never:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0071GGI1Q/ref=dm_sp_alb/279-7250902-0915327?ie=UTF8&qid=1327523002&sr=1-1
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Presto-digitation on January 26, 2012, 01:25:04 am
Apparently both Blood & Fire and The Trouble With Never can be purchased and the full songs downloaded NOW on amazon UK.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Presto-digitation on January 26, 2012, 03:19:46 am
Stay Frosty (least favorite so far):


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyuXCfKzfko&feature=player_embedded
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Presto-digitation on January 26, 2012, 13:32:19 pm
Both Trouble and Blood & Fire (FULL VERSIONS) streaming here:

http://www.vanhalenradio.com/vanhalenradio/album/van-halens-tattoo-from-the-cd-a-different-kind-of-truth/

(FF to the end of Tattoo streaming in the upper left and the other two tunes will follow):
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: captainkurtz on January 26, 2012, 13:37:14 pm
Cheers PD

Are you going to any of the US shows?
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Presto-digitation on January 26, 2012, 13:40:32 pm
I'm considering it, yes (Greensboro, North Carolina)!  I'm more about the new album, but I'm guessing I'll cave and shell out the $$$.  :)
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Andy42g on January 26, 2012, 14:20:29 pm
Stay frosty least fave so far.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Matt2112 on January 26, 2012, 14:59:15 pm
The Trouble With Never is IMMENSE!  And I've just done a jizz.  :o  :-X  ;D
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: captainkurtz on January 26, 2012, 15:04:38 pm
Indeed.

I may have to invest in a pair of flippers and a snorkel for the Wife before the record comes out.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Presto-digitation on January 26, 2012, 15:19:47 pm
I've still not had the chance to listen to both full songs...!  UGH!
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Rob Barchetta on January 26, 2012, 15:34:42 pm
Quote from: Presto-digitation on January 26, 2012, 13:40:32 pm
I'm considering it, yes (Greensboro, North Carolina)!  I'm more about the new album, but I'm guessing I'll cave and shell out the $$$.  :)


Bought my car from Greensboro, NC  8)
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Presto-digitation on January 26, 2012, 15:53:41 pm
And it still runs?  ;)
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Presto-digitation on January 26, 2012, 16:18:38 pm
fecking hell, it appears I've missed it.  That VH radio site only seems to be playing Tattoo now. 
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Andy42g on January 26, 2012, 19:32:01 pm
Bought the 2 tracks from Amazon for £1.50 (and got £1.50 off the album in return, so free music), now on CD, and listening.
Blood and Fire ... Now look at alll the people here tonight... :) Great stuff.  Monster solo.
Trouble with Never.... is indeed immense.  Edward is god. With a wah wah pedal. BIG riffage on this. EDIT - this rocks like a bastard.
Liking the fact that these are new sounding and yet harking right back to the old VH.
Storming guitar work by EVH; Dave sounds great - all the chorus harmonies are there, and the production is crisp and clear.  All very nice indeed.
Can see why Tattoo was released first - it's still the most 'commercial' sounding of the 3 tracks.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Presto-digitation on January 26, 2012, 21:21:39 pm
Quote from: Andy42g on January 26, 2012, 19:32:01 pm
Bought the 2 tracks from Amazon for £1.50 (and got £1.50 off the album in return, so free music), now on CD, and listening.
Blood and Fire ... Now look at alll the people here tonight... :) Great stuff.  Monster solo.
Trouble with Never.... is indeed immense.  Edward is god. With a wah wah pedal. BIG riffage on this. EDIT - this rocks like a bastard.
Liking the fact that these are new sounding and yet harking right back to the old VH.
Storming guitar work by EVH; Dave sounds great - all the chorus harmonies are there, and the production is crisp and clear.  All very nice indeed.
Can see why Tattoo was released first - it's still the most 'commercial' sounding of the 3 tracks.


In a fit of solo Dave irony, EVH's riff sounds almost Vai-like....AND Wolfie's impressive playing along with Ed would make Billy Sheehan smile.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: captainkurtz on January 26, 2012, 21:23:21 pm
I wonder if it is actually Wolfie playing on the new record.  I think it probably is.

Loving what I'm hearing so far....
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Presto-digitation on January 26, 2012, 21:37:35 pm
I'm thinking it is too.  He shows on the live clip of She's The Woman that he's capable of keeping up.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Presto-digitation on January 26, 2012, 21:37:53 pm
My buddy had this to say when I hooked him up with the two new full versions.  Took the words right out of my mouth, even down to the Vai comment.

"The Trouble With Never"- Wow. I think this type of song is what people were looking for and expected for the first single. If those fans hear this and don't like it, then they need to turn in their Eddie cards and golock themselves in an empty room somewhere. The riffs in this song are just twisted and sick.. I love it. The wah drenched main riff halfway reminds me of a Satriani/Vai thing (in a good way). The solo is classic badass Eddie. But what really stood out for me was what was underneath the solo: Wolfie and Alex are TIGHT. They've definitiely gelled as a rhythm section. I love that half-tempo breakdown in the middle (speaking part get a pass as it's DLR doing it), the riff is just crushing. VERY excited and happy with this tune. And of course Dave's lyrics are perfect..all kinds of double meanings and wordplay.

"Blood And Fire"- Another excellent tune. Like you said when you heard the preview, has a 1984 vibe to it. Eddie's sound is very clear and chimey with just enough dirt...very classic "brown sound". Not as saturated a tone as he typically has these last few years. And that solo is of course fabulous. He's really baring his teeth again.

Overall, it sounds like a BAND again. There's energy and passion there. VERY excited for the rest of the album!!!
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: captainkurtz on January 26, 2012, 22:06:00 pm
Nice.

Very excited too.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Presto-digitation on January 26, 2012, 23:19:44 pm
Indeed. In some form or fashion we've either actually heard parts of, all of, or have good reference to 6 of the album's  13 cuts.  This presumes Bullethead is mostly identical to demo form...and we've already heard a live version of She's The Woman.  I'm pleased ALREADY. I like them all so far (though I'm not immediately in love with Stay Frosty, I like it) and really think I'll love most of the six by the time it's all had the chance to sink in.

Even if my enjoyment is 50-50 on the other 7, those are good odds for a great record.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Presto-digitation on January 27, 2012, 16:32:07 pm
Now THIS bitch kicks some ass, kids.  China Town:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=4FZCwTsoQMs#!
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Reg on January 27, 2012, 17:02:27 pm
Just reading through these comments and enjoying what I've read.  Panama is bouncing around in my head now.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Presto-digitation on January 27, 2012, 18:52:53 pm
Previews to them all:

http://www.vanhalenradio.com/vanhalenradio/2012/01/27/van-halen-a-different-kind-of-truth-preview-all-the-songs/
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Presto-digitation on January 27, 2012, 19:16:29 pm
I don't know where to start.  Even 30 second bits of the rest of these are kicking my ass.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: captainkurtz on January 27, 2012, 21:55:37 pm
Quote from: Presto-digitation on January 27, 2012, 19:16:29 pm
I don't know where to start.  Even 30 second bits of the rest of these are kicking my ass.

;D

Ditto
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Presto-digitation on January 28, 2012, 01:11:17 am
http://www.scottygonline.com/sample.mp3

this one contains them all in one file.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Andy42g on January 28, 2012, 09:14:43 am
Err - wow. Pantfillingly good. The lot.
I'll be away skiing when it's released - I really could do with a copy hitting the internet this week :)
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Dave64K on January 28, 2012, 15:06:32 pm
Hope Ed's guitar sound gets back to the original era where he really was distinctive. Just listened to the "crunch" he had in his sound on Mean Streets......would like more of that :-)

Some of these tracks do sound like older demos or reworked songs as reported elsewhere..........She's The Woman sounds like it could have been on Woman & Children First.

Looking forward to the release
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Andy42g on January 28, 2012, 21:55:14 pm
DLR interview - or a few quotes from one.
http://www.vhnd.com/2012/01/27/david-lee-roth-la-times-interview/
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Presto-digitation on January 29, 2012, 16:19:02 pm
I've heard 90 second clips of all songs now. Feb 7 can't get here quickly enough.

Big River (rollin..! cool chorus)
Outta Space (awesome classic VH rock feel)
Honeybabysweetiedoll (sick riff...very cool sounding tune-might end up being the record's gem)
As Is (more China Town style double kick...heavy rocker)
Beats Workin (really a VH II-sounding track w/ a chorus reminiscent of the debut's Feel Your Love Tonight)

Yeah...good stuff so far.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Presto-digitation on January 30, 2012, 01:05:19 am
Something I wrote for a friend of mine asking me about the full songs I'd heard, the clips, etc.  So here's a very early and premature sense of the album from my perspective:

1.      Tattoo:  Well you've heard a bit of this by now.  I really enjoy this song, lyrically, melodically, etc.  It's not riff-driven as much as it is a mid-tempo groove-driven track, which disappointed some fans initially.  Had this been a sign of the album's pace and trajectory, I'd have been fine with it.  It's got the big guitars, the Dave-isms, the wonderful solo, etc.; all those things that make it VH.  It's also, perhaps misleadingly, the only song that I can tell that has keyboard flourishes in it...(another concern with some fans in early listens).  So it turns out this is the anomaly of the album and in some ways I like it more because of that.  Is it an odd choice for an opener?  Yes.  Probably best suited as a middle-of-the-pack track.  But it makes a good catchy radio cut.  "Swap meet Sally, tramp stamp tat; mouse wife to momshell in the time it took to get that new tattoo..."  Very cool.

2.      She's The Woman:  And just like that, we're back to 1978 and a song that sounds like it good have come off the first record.  No shit.  I've heard a solid 2+ minutes of this one.  The opening is this really cool in unison bass and guitar run high on the neck before descending into a really sultry beat.  This song just cooks on the classic VH burner.  It's a simple, straight forward rocker.  Meat and potatoes and all fun.  Really cool background harmonies in the chorus. 

3.      You And Your Blues:  I really love the verses in this one.  The music is this smoky, atmospheric guitar part (like a slower Ain't Talkin' 'Bout Love riff) that Dave sings over in a really cool low range.  The pre-chorus has some sweet harmonies in it before erupting into the chorus with some classic VH "ahhhh-ahhhhhhs" behind it.  Basically Dave sings about how he's suffering because of this woman and how down she always is. "Ain't no red house o'er yonder, no stormy Monday waits for you; Ain't no midnight dream in Georgia, And I'm not looking for the truth; And I tell you what I'm getting rid of, you and your blues; I'm done with co-existing, this is heavy lifting; no more crawling, no more depending on you."  Cool song.

4.      China Town:  One to shake the rust off the metal and the song that turned around the hearts and minds of online doubters just like that.  The tune opens with this Eddie tapping flurry on guitar that's really cool and descends into this killer lick under Alex's massive double kick pattern, bringing to mind the vibe of Hot For Teacher before then ripping into the verse riff, which is almost Iron Maiden like (Two Minutes To Midnight-ish).  This would be on a short list for one of the heavier sounding Van Halen tunes ever.  Dave bellows, "Headless body in a topless bar; warring clans in lowered cars; a buck is still a buck in Shanghai..."  No pussy chasing cat calls here.  Dave hones right in on the dangerous atmosphere to this tune and keeps the lyrics edgy.  Really, straight off Fair Warning if I didn't know any better.   "Welcome to China Town.  Well you've been high til now."   

5.      Blood And Fire:  I've heard ALL of this song and it's a keeper.  Has a real Diver Down-into-1984 (Little Guitars type) vibe on it and I think it's something you'll dig.  Feels like a big summertime, top down, cruisin' song.  Probably my favorite DLR verses in the whole pack so far.  Half the verses are just his voice and then the other half come in with nice harmony vocals.  Just that very light and peppery VH feel to it.  Perfect range for Dave.  The song is about how they overcame their difficulties ("we came through blood and fire" - nice chorus) to get to where they are today.  The bridge is fecking awesome.  Classic Van Halen.  My favorite part lyrically is just after the bridge where Dave is speaking and says, "Hey, I told you I was coming back.  Tell me you missed me.  Say it like you mean it...."  That spoken part then TEARS into a blistering solo.  The song ends on the same lilting guitar figure it begins on with Dave humming softly over it.  Almost brought tears to my eyes, this song.  So 1982-84 in feel and flavor.  It was upon hearing this one that I knew for certain this album would not disappoint.

6.      Bullethead:  This one's an almost punk-like stomp, in the vein of a One Foot Out The Door kind of blast.  Short song (under 3 minutes), but all ass-kicking right out of the gate.  It's here where you'll hear the album title (A Different Kind Of Truth) in one of the verses.  Up-tempo and killer.  EVH uses a cool shimmer on his guitar solo.  No idea what it is, but it sounds cool.  Very much at home on Fair Warning...no lie.  "Some days you're the dog, some days you're the hydrant; If everything is going your way, you're facing the wrong way..."

7.      As Is:  Begins with a really comical Alex count in and a real echoey drum beat under a slow and DIRGY, dirty sounding guitar.  Sounds like something Metallica would do (Sad But True-like)  in the intro before seguing into a really cool uptempo lick.  Then the tune picks up its pace mightily.  Second double kick drum tune.  The pre-chorus is classic Van Halen with shouts and harmonies.  I've only heard 90 seconds of this and don't have a really good sense of the dynamics, except that it starts one way and takes off like a rocket.   

8.      Honeybabysweetiedoll:  This definitely would suggest a more smarmy, light, VH/Dave tune, but it's anything but.  It's arguably the heaviest thing on the record.  The song begins with really creepy sound effects (radio frequency noises, strings being plucked, scratched, stretched....an SOS signal in Morse Code... and some bizarre keyboard thing I can't even begin to describe) before launching into a really SICK almost middle eastern type riff.  It's almost a metal song in a Godsmack way in segments.  It really would fit perfectly on Women And Children First.  It has that kind of dark tone to it.  Just really original and cool for Van Halen.   

9.      The Trouble With Never:  I've heard all of this one too.  Excellent track.  Has almost a Steve Vai quality to the playing and Wolfie is riding all these notes with Edward.  The kid is all over the neck.  Edward is on his wah pedal throughout the song and creates a really cool guitar tone all the way through it.  Dave's lyrics are perfectly clever too.  The chorus is really catchy with the traditional VH "aahhhh-ooooh" background harmonies.  After the solo there's this really deliberate eerie slow down and Dave has this very low almost sultry spoken part that's really freakin' cool and just completely Roth.  The riff coming out of this is new to the song and it's just killer.  Good dynamics in this one.  Lots of play.  Dave asks, "When was the last time you did something for the very first time...?" Sounds like VH doing something new here.   

10.   Outta Space:  This just might be my favorite cut on the album in this these early (and admittedly incomplete) listens.  Man, this sucker SCREAMS debut album.  Killer classic riff to open the song.  Uptempo rocker, just like you like them, E.  Love Dave's vocals here.  Urgent.  The verses have a nice swing to them, ala Runnin' With The Devil before the really punch, choppy and staccato chorus, which offers a great change up...(chorus reminds me of Out Of Love from Van Halen II).  The bridge is just classic.  I know I'm overusing that term, but really...it's purely old school.

11.  Stay Frosty:  This tune is very much a nod to Ice Cream Man but with subtle differences.  For one, this isn't a cover song like that one is, and it has very noticeable differences too.  The verse acoustics also remind me a bit of Zeppelin, particularly the song Gallows Pole.  The lyrics are great.  One of my favorite bits is, "I journeyed to the east and I struggled to stay afloat, when a solitary Budhist monk threw me a rope; He looked me in the eye and said 'don't make me say this twice, but if you want to be a monk you gotta cook a lot of rice'..."  LOL!  So perfect for the song.  Has an awesome gate to it and like Ice Cream Man it really starts to swing and transitions to some nice crunch guitars and a killer solo I've heard a little bit of.  Initially one of my least favorites, but it's charming and the dynamics of the song make it a real grower.   

12.  Big River:  This one is sure shaping up into something cool.  I can't wait to hear the rest of it.  It begins with a lilting guitar that segues into a riff that, again, could be anywhere on the first two Van Halen records.  Just excellently retro and classic.  Dave's voice is perfect in the verses.  Anxious to get a better feel for the overall on this one, but I dig it.

13.  Beats Workin:  Very much a Van Halen II party flavor to this....light in tone and attitude.  Classic VH harmonies to it.  The chorus "That beats workin' baby...." has very much a Feel Your Love Tonight harmonic quality to it.  Once again, only the first 90 seconds here, but enough to establish tonality.  It's fun.  Fun is on the menu with this record.   

Overall the record is shaping up to not only be a keeper but a contender.  I'm simply floored by how cool some of this sounds.  I'm not sure what I expected, but I think that expectation was that it would be lazier than this sounds...(simply because you just don't know what's going to come out of such a contentious relationship between guys that haven't made a record together in nearly 30 years).  They sound inspired, they sound like a band.  I've not heard Eddie play this well since Carnal Knowledge or before.  He's really on fire here, Eric.  No weird noodling like on III...or just brash mindless riffing as he did on some other efforts.  It sounds like classic EVH with contemporary flourishes, but it never sounds like paint by numbers.  Not to me at least.   
 
Dave is generally in fine form.  There are the moments when his strain is noticeable.  Some of his higher notes show wear, but thankfully he's more often than not sticking to a range that works for him.  Even when he does strain, the context of the songs are so largely fun and exciting, you simply don't care.  He sounded much more out of his league on the two tunes he did for the hits album in '96 (Me Wise Magic, etc) than he does here and that was 16 years ago.  Frankly I hoped he would sound THAT good now, but he's actually better now than then, to my great surprise.  Not perfect and not 24-year-old DLR, but perfectly Dave just the same and that's fine enough for me.  His charisma and charm and undeniable stamp are all over these songs from note one.

The shocker of the album is Wolfie.  No kidding.  Once you settle in on these songs, listen to where the bass goes.  He's not just consistently hugging the root note and plodding along.  Frankly I had no idea what his play would be like because he simply copped Michael's stuff live last tour and wasn't asked to do more than that.  Let's just say that if this was ANTHONY playing on this record I'd be impressed because I'm not sure there's a VH album in the whole catalogue with such dynamic, playful, and all around fretboard dynamics.  It's more like listening to Vai and Billy Sheehan in Dave's solo band, where Billy is as good at bass as Vai is at guitar.  While I'm not comparing Wolfie to Eddie, he plays up with him at times...his riffs, runs, descents, etc.  In or out of Van Halen in the years to come, this is a great showcase for his talents.   

Last but not least the background vocals are shockingly spry.  Where you don't get the ear piercing shrieks of Dave or Michael these days, the traditional Van Halen backgrounds are indeed still there.  Wolfie has proven himself live as a b/g singer and Eddie's always been a part of that aspect as well.  I really thought the vocals would be dreadfully monotone without or flate without Mike, and while I still miss his being there, his absence is not nearly as noticeable as I feared it would be.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Rob Barchetta on January 30, 2012, 03:30:15 am
Quote from: Presto-digitation on January 26, 2012, 15:53:41 pm
And it still runs?  ;)


A lot better than it did when we bought it  ;D
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: captainkurtz on January 30, 2012, 22:00:05 pm
Radio Metal: Anyway, does that bother you when you hear people comparing CHICKENFOOT and VAN HALEN?

Hagar: Oh, no, I think it's fantastic. Really, it's fantastic. Are you kidding me? If you take Joe [Satriani, CHICKENFOOT guitarist] versus Eddie, you take Dave [Lee Roth, VAN HALEN singer] versus me, Wolfie [Van Halen, VAN HALEN bassist] versus Mikey, Chad [Smith, CHICKENFOOT drummer] or Kenny [Aronoff, CHICKENFOOT's touring drummer] versus Al [Alex Van Halen, VAN HALEN drummer]... I mean, come on! You know what I mean? Man for man, who can sing the best? Dave or I, today? Who can play the best? Joe or Eddie, today? Who could play or sing the best? Wolfie or Mikey? I think it's a joke. Sure, I love the comparison as long as it's fair. Not because you're a big Eddie Van Halen fan, you think that he's God, therefore you think that he's better than Joe; you have to be bipartisan and just listen and watch both of them play. Listen, I played with them both, I can tell you right now: there is no comparison today. Never mind the innovator that Eddie was. I'm talking about what they can play today.

Radio Metal: So in other words, CHICKENFOOT is way better than VAN HALEN?

Hagar: As individuals, absolutely! I've been in both bands, I can tell you right now. Take the new albums and compare them track by track and then tell me.


:o ::) :-X
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Presto-digitation on January 30, 2012, 22:29:26 pm
Hagar should focus on his own band. I really don't care what he thinks about VH because I doubt he's able or willing - to perhaps be more accurate - to give credit where it's due. It means about as much as Eddie's take on Chickenfoot. I would expect no less biased an opinion from Edward on that subject. It's like asking your ex-wife what she thinks of your new car, house, and current wife.

Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Andy42g on January 31, 2012, 20:03:41 pm
Quote from: captainkurtz on January 30, 2012, 22:00:05 pm
Radio Metal: Anyway, does that bother you when you hear people comparing CHICKENFOOT and VAN HALEN?

Hagar: Oh, no, I think it's fantastic. Really, it's fantastic. Are you kidding me? If you take Joe [Satriani, CHICKENFOOT guitarist] versus Eddie, you take Dave [Lee Roth, VAN HALEN singer] versus me, Wolfie [Van Halen, VAN HALEN bassist] versus Mikey, Chad [Smith, CHICKENFOOT drummer] or Kenny [Aronoff, CHICKENFOOT's touring drummer] versus Al [Alex Van Halen, VAN HALEN drummer]... I mean, come on! You know what I mean? Man for man, who can sing the best? Dave or I, today? Who can play the best? Joe or Eddie, today? Who could play or sing the best? Wolfie or Mikey? I think it's a joke. Sure, I love the comparison as long as it's fair. Not because you're a big Eddie Van Halen fan, you think that he's God, therefore you think that he's better than Joe; you have to be bipartisan and just listen and watch both of them play. Listen, I played with them both, I can tell you right now: there is no comparison today. Never mind the innovator that Eddie was. I'm talking about what they can play today.

Radio Metal: So in other words, CHICKENFOOT is way better than VAN HALEN?

Hagar: As individuals, absolutely! I've been in both bands, I can tell you right now. Take the new albums and compare them track by track and then tell me.


Hagar is going deaf in his old age. Chickenfoot III is pretty lame.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Pricey on January 31, 2012, 20:57:16 pm
Has it leaked yet ?
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: captainkurtz on January 31, 2012, 21:48:32 pm
I have (out my underpants)
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Presto-digitation on January 31, 2012, 23:11:52 pm
Quote from: Pricey on January 31, 2012, 20:57:16 pm
Has it leaked yet ?


"Some" have said they've heard it all, but I've not been alerted by any of my "you'll let me know the second it's out there, right?" friends just yet.   ;D
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Andy42g on February 01, 2012, 23:08:53 pm
Not a sniff of the whole album so far....
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Matt2112 on February 02, 2012, 00:07:44 am
I don't want to start a EVH vs Satch debate, but:

EVH plays with far more natural feel and musicality;
and it doesn't sound like he's copying off anyone.

Er, I reckon that's all that needs to be stated on the subject, really.

As you were.

Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Andy42g on February 02, 2012, 00:49:07 am
Quote from: Matt2112 on February 02, 2012, 00:07:44 am
I don't want to start a EVH vs Satch debate, but:

...I reckon that's all that needs to be stated on the subject, really.

Has Slim nicked your log in Matt?  ;)
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Andy42g on February 02, 2012, 00:49:42 am
But you are correct, I'm afraid.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Presto-digitation on February 02, 2012, 03:04:13 am
I agree.  Eddie was the Thomas Edison and the rest are other phonograph makers.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: captainkurtz on February 02, 2012, 06:25:23 am
Joe Faxmachiney.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: captainkurtz on February 02, 2012, 09:08:39 am
Released in Australia tomorrow so should be on the net by the weekend.

Hopefully my copy will have been received from hmv by that time.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: captainkurtz on February 02, 2012, 09:33:21 am
Wooohoooo!

Hi HASSAN RIZVI

Your order's in the post and should be with you soon. If you've pre-ordered, we'll aim to get it to you on the day of release (UK deliveries only).

Qty   Format   Artist   Title   Price   Estimated Delivery
1   CD   VAN HALEN   DIFFERENT KIND OF TRUTH: BONUS   £12.99   2-5 days

Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Captain Ron on February 02, 2012, 13:39:44 pm
Quote from: Presto-digitation on February 02, 2012, 03:04:13 am
I agree.  Eddie was the Thomas Edison and the rest are other phonograph makers.


Errm, don't you mean the Nikolai Tesla?  ;)  :)
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Presto-digitation on February 02, 2012, 13:42:11 pm
Quote from: Captain Ron on February 02, 2012, 13:39:44 pm
Errm, don't you mean the Nikolai Tesla?  ;)  :)

;D Indeed.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Thenop on February 02, 2012, 15:22:36 pm
it's out via the little green man now... haven't heard it yet though.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Andy42g on February 02, 2012, 15:30:05 pm
Quote from: Thenop on February 02, 2012, 15:22:36 pm
it's out via the little green man now... haven't heard it yet though.
little green man?
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Thenop on February 02, 2012, 15:41:38 pm
check yr PM
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Danforth on February 02, 2012, 16:06:45 pm
Found it. Playing it right now  8)
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: KEVINOWEN on February 02, 2012, 16:21:21 pm
Also out on Two diff torrent sites ive seen......gonna give it a listen to now
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Andy42g on February 02, 2012, 17:59:03 pm
Yep - downloading now.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Andy42g on February 02, 2012, 18:01:03 pm
Quote from: Thenop on February 02, 2012, 15:41:38 pm
check yr PM

Cheers.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Presto-digitation on February 02, 2012, 18:46:31 pm
Please chime in with thoughts, general impressions, highs-lows, etc. 
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: JonL on February 02, 2012, 19:23:06 pm
Mine's in the post.

I'll wait for the hard copy.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: mickpaz2112 on February 02, 2012, 21:02:27 pm
 8)
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: captainkurtz on February 02, 2012, 21:15:04 pm
 Downloading, like verbatim regurgitation, is against my Christian principles.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Dixkot on February 02, 2012, 21:18:25 pm
Quote from: captainkurtz on February 02, 2012, 21:15:04 pm
my Christian principles.


;D ;D
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Andy42g on February 02, 2012, 21:34:14 pm
Listening interrupted by running.
But now I am back.
She's the Woman. Hmm. Heard the old demo a millioon times. Skipping this one for now.
China Town. Wioah.  "Get Up" speedy double bass drum pace. Big chorus again. Lots of good hooks in these tunes.
Blood and Fire I have already decided is a VH classic.
...
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Andy42g on February 02, 2012, 21:39:27 pm
B B B B Bullethead. Heads down and brutal. Great riff. Some bloody magnificence on the bass from VH Jr. again on this one.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Andy42g on February 02, 2012, 21:42:22 pm
As Is. Christ there's some good stuff on this record.  Dave again on fine form. Really - everyone is on fine form. Big tapping solo and then slows right down to a churning feck off fat riff. And then a Dave bit, then ... madness ensues again. Pass me the tissues.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Andy42g on February 02, 2012, 21:46:47 pm
Honeybaby.... Tell you what : anyone who was lulled into a sense of commercial keyboard backed MOR by Tattoo is in for one big suprise as they get into this record. It's all going on. And most of it is plain fecking noisy.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: captainkurtz on February 02, 2012, 21:51:32 pm
feck,  i want a copy. now.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Andy42g on February 02, 2012, 21:56:17 pm
Outa Space. Old demo riff brought crashing up to date. Great fun. Heavy as buggery.
Stay Frosty. Ice Cream Man revisited. When the band come in... oh wow. :)
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Andy42g on February 02, 2012, 21:57:44 pm
Seriously chaps. Sod the old tunes on the tour - just play this though twice. Thanks.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Andy42g on February 02, 2012, 22:02:32 pm
Big River. Sounds like another old demo riff and would have been right at home on VHII. Seriously - am sat here just aghast at how good this stuff is. Beyond what I thought they could do? Well - given it's Edward Van Halen newly inspired I guess we should have expected brilliance and that's exactly what we have here. What a treat. The live shows are gonna be blinding.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Andy42g on February 02, 2012, 22:06:34 pm
Beats Workin'. Sure does. Real old school on this one and an interesting one to finish with given it really does sound like it's 1977 all over again.

Maybe they do miss Mike's vocals for the 'proper' VH sound but bloody hell there's so much more going on here that we can get past that.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Andrew_Haldane on February 02, 2012, 22:16:52 pm
fap fap fap
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Nick on February 02, 2012, 22:23:23 pm
Just taken this for a drive, although -3 Devon isn't sunny LA i can still confirm this rocks like a monster.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Presto-digitation on February 02, 2012, 23:01:47 pm
Nice comments.  Impatiently waiting.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: captainkurtz on February 02, 2012, 23:09:35 pm
Man yoghurt everywhere.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Matt2112 on February 02, 2012, 23:59:08 pm
Quote from: captainkurtz on February 02, 2012, 23:09:35 pm
Man yoghurt everywhere.


;D  ;D

Ordered the deluxe edition from Amazon (via TNMS link  :) )

Let's see if I can resist a sneak preview...
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Presto-digitation on February 03, 2012, 02:18:57 am
The Trouble With Never...live 1 Feb, 2012:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IzmGUuew-2g&feature=related
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: The Letter R on February 03, 2012, 09:36:32 am
Sod the album - I'm just getting the flip-flops ;)
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Fuzzy on February 03, 2012, 11:24:24 am
Dave as his usual self;
http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2012/feb/02/david-lee-roth-van-halen
From what I have heard, can't see it getting a bad review over here, but will it bring them over? Sadly not convinced, love Van Halen, but at least Sammy knows where we are  :-\
http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2012/feb/02/van-halen-different-truth-review
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Andy42g on February 03, 2012, 12:20:35 pm
Quote from: Fuzzy on February 03, 2012, 11:24:24 am
Dave as his usual self;
http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2012/feb/02/david-lee-roth-van-halen

Great interview.

Quote.but will it bring them over? Sadly not convinced, love Van Halen, but at least Sammy knows where we are  :-\

Up to them I guess - they've never reallly bothered before so ho hum. They'll likely do a festival at best.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Presto-digitation on February 03, 2012, 12:55:12 pm
Maybe if the reaction to the record is positive enough and there's good will (and sobriety) on the tour, you folks will get them.  I'm really cheering for it to happen for you all. 

I love seeing this band back on their game.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Dixkot on February 03, 2012, 18:02:34 pm
Well,

That's me played it through 4 - 5 times today, albeit in the office while working and in the car while commuting, so not ideal listening conditions.

Firstly, although catchy I was glad to find that Tattoo is one of the weakest tracks on the album and was probably picked as the first single as it is very radio friendly.

Quite underwhelmed overall, although that may change with further listens.

The only track that I have hit the back button on for an instant repeat listen is Honeybabysweetiedoll.  It is blindingly brilliant.

Too many ideas from the past means there's nothing new, it's late DLR era Van Halen.  Bubblegum rock.

A lazy release.



Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Matt2112 on February 03, 2012, 18:18:16 pm
Shame that apparently the only synth is on Tattoo.  I wanted at least a few songs that make When It's Love sound like Angel Of Death.  ::)  ;)
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: captainkurtz on February 03, 2012, 18:35:16 pm
When it's love? *vomit*
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: captainkurtz on February 04, 2012, 11:26:19 am
Arrived from HMV this morning.

Very excited about giving it a proper listen.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: JonL on February 04, 2012, 12:55:55 pm
Waiting on my doormat when I came back from football too.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Matt2112 on February 04, 2012, 13:26:54 pm
Ooo, yer spawny gets.  ;D
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Presto-digitation on February 04, 2012, 14:17:18 pm
Looking forward to your reactions.  I'm completely jealous, of course.  ;)  (Yeah, I know....I get to see them live so sod off PD). 
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: JonL on February 04, 2012, 17:41:26 pm
I listened to it in my headphones and grinned from ear to ear the whole time. There are definite throwbacks to previous VH albums, but that's no bad thing.
Quite frankly it rocks like a bastard, swings like a fiend and swaggers with big balls between its legs. No band that has spent this long apart should be able to sound this good.
No other band can make an album sound like this. Eddie's got his mojo back, DLR is having a ball, Alex's playing is superb and Wolfie more than answers his critics.
Back with a bang!
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Andy42g on February 04, 2012, 20:28:03 pm
Liking the Henson Studios footage a lot.
Unchained: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKwzXyBkgJI&feature=related
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Captain Ron on February 04, 2012, 20:40:30 pm
When it's love - Cracking song. Charted well too IIRC. "Get up.. and make it work" would be my favourite off that one though. Fantastic drumming. :)
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: Andy42g on February 05, 2012, 08:16:27 am
Quote from: Captain Ron on February 04, 2012, 20:40:30 pm
When it's love - Cracking song. Charted well too IIRC.

Must have been some other band. Proper Van Halen would never release such keyboard infested MOR shite.  ???  ;)

Point of order - When it's Love and Get Up are from different albums by that other Van Halen.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: captainkurtz on February 05, 2012, 13:23:49 pm
A few listens in - very good, although there is some filler on there I think - the trouble with never, as is, honeybaby - superbly played, have lots of 'bits' etc that are great but, they wouldn't have made the grade on any of their first 6 records.

EVH is on marvellous form throughout - the brown sound returns, at least on the material that has been reworked. Roth sounds good, I think.

Wolfie is a revelation - from a bass point of view, I think this is their most impressive record. Having said that though, I'm sure Ed was more keen to push the bass arrangements in a way that he wasn't before.

So all in all, a really really good return to form. The only worrying aspect, I suppose, is that the reworked songs are vastly superior to the new songs.

The next record, if there is one, will be very telling.

4/5 for me.  Hope they tour here.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: captainkurtz on February 05, 2012, 13:24:59 pm
Loved the DVD as well.
Title: Re: Van Halen flip flops
Post by: JonL on February 05, 2012, 14:11:12 pm
Quote from: captainkurtz on February 05, 2012, 13:23:49 pm
The next record, if there is one, will be very telling.



I was thinking the same thing.
Title: Van Halen
Post by: Nicola B on February 05, 2012, 16:12:19 pm
Couldn't be bothered to find the old thread and its not related to flip-flops...

http://espn.go.com/espn/thelife/music/feature/video/_/page/van-halen/different-kind-truth (http://espn.go.com/espn/thelife/music/feature/video/_/page/van-halen/different-kind-truth)
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Dixkot on February 05, 2012, 16:33:46 pm


Merged the topics, and removed the flip-flops, to avoid confusion.
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Spirit of Rich on February 05, 2012, 21:11:28 pm
Bloody hell.

They don't write 'em like this any more.

I feel 16 again.
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Pricey on February 06, 2012, 00:12:03 am
After 3 listens It's ok , nothing special
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Andrew_Haldane on February 09, 2012, 12:34:34 pm
From Blabbermouth
http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=169472


VAN HALEN played a special "rehearsal" show for their upcoming North American tour last night (Wednesday, February 8th) at the Forum in Los Angeles.

VELVET REVOLVER/ex-GUNS N' ROSES guitarist Slash, who was one of the lucky people in attendance, tweeted after the concert, "VAN HALEN was killer tonight at the Forum. Eddie [Van Halen] was brilliant. So amazing to hear/watch."

The band's setlist was as follows:

01. You Really Got Me
02. Running With The Devil
03. She's The Woman
04. Somebody Get Me A Doctor
05. Tattoo
06. Everybody Wants Some
07. Beautiful Girls
08. Ice Cream Man
09. China Town
10. Dance The Night Away
11. Hot For Teacher
12. Blood And Fire
13. Guitar Solo
14. Panama
15. Jump

Fan-filmed video footage of Eddie Van Halen's guitar solo from last night's show can be seen below.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Me61Qlgqj5o#!

VAN HALEN will kick off its North American tour on February 18 in Louisville, Kentucky.

VAN HALEN's new album, "A Different Kind Of Truth", is likely to sell between 180,000 and 200,000 copies in the United States in its first week of release, according to industry web site Hits Daily Double. The estimate was based on one-day sales reports compiled after the record arrived in stores on February 7 via Interscope.

The first review of "A Different Kind Of Truth" was posted online last week at Antiquiet -- and it was overwhelmingly positive. Critic Johnny Firecloud said that the band's first album with original singer David Lee Roth in 28 years is a "true return" and "screaming triumph," adding, "That old familiar feeling has returned, the unique flare of excitement that comes from a muscle car rhythm section led by a six-string wizard and a singing sexual megalodon with an ego that made Kanye look like a kid flaunting his new Spider-Man underoos -- and the pipes to back up the strut."

The review acknowledged that much of the album is made up of material pulled from the band's archives, writing, "Thankfully, these songs do not sound like old men putting on the smelly old spandex and combing over the strays. Fresh is the operative word here, a supremely confident swing for the fences in an understandable progression from the obsessively romanticized pre-Hagar era."

First single and album opener "Tattoo" is described as the "low point for an otherwise fantastic album," which may offer hope to fans who have voiced displeasure with that track. Other songs cited as standout tracks include "She's The Woman", "You And Your Blues", "China Town" and "Stay Frosty".

The review concluded, "'A Different Kind Of Truth' will be remembered as evidence that a band can endure every cliche in the book and return, with the right focus, obsessed dedication and mojo, to a sweet spot of rejuvenation -- one that holds the hand of nostalgia but doesn't go for the full embrace, leaning instead, wisely, toward evolution."
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Fishy on February 09, 2012, 13:21:31 pm
Quote from: Bisto on February 09, 2012, 12:34:34 pm

Fan-filmed video footage of Eddie Van Halen's guitar solo from last night's show can be seen below.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Me61Qlgqj5o#!




his solos are his trademark..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4UJkl6eaGQ
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Dave64K on February 09, 2012, 22:04:42 pm
And here's one to compare from 30 years ago

http://youtu.be/DXvLlpSQvCU (http://youtu.be/DXvLlpSQvCU)
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: JonL on February 09, 2012, 22:43:04 pm
Has he got even faster?
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Analog RH on February 10, 2012, 11:09:48 am
First couple of plays done. Miles better than it has any right to be and certainly deserving of the hyperbole.
Eddie has lost none of his ability to give me goosebumps - most tellingly on Honeybabysweetiedoll.
Good (and surprising) to hear DLR on such fine form.  Is this the same guy who was stumbling around, bloated and peroxided, 10 years ago? Fair play to him.
Michael Anthony is not missed. Credit due to young Wolfie.
One helluva comeback, especially considering how utterly shit VHIII was. (Is it just me or is The Trouble With Never the best song Extreme never did?)
Fave track on initial spins - As Is.
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Fuzzface on February 10, 2012, 11:17:59 am
Quote from: Analog Rockin' Hard on February 10, 2012, 11:09:48 am
First couple of plays done. Miles better than it has any right to be and certainly deserving of the hyperbole.
Eddie has lost none of his ability to give me goosebumps - most tellingly on Honeybabysweetiedoll.
Good (and surprising) to hear DLR on such fine form.  Is this the same guy who was stumbling around, bloated and peroxided, 10 years ago? Fair play to him.
Michael Anthony is not missed. Credit due to young Wolfie.
One helluva comeback, especially considering how utterly shit VHIII was. (Is it just me or is The Trouble With Never the best song Extreme never did?)
Fave track on initial spins - As Is.


Listening to it right now for the first time......sounds quite good so far....better than I expected
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: captainkurtz on February 10, 2012, 13:34:44 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4df49v43Ss&feature=youtu.be

Band sounds shit hot.  Dave sounds shit.  :-\
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: captainkurtz on February 10, 2012, 13:37:27 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ImtFhZDHZM&feature=youtu.be
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Presto-digitation on February 10, 2012, 13:48:52 pm
Fine album.  Nice brisk listen to.  No song overstays its welcome.  Lots of diversity.
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Matt2112 on February 10, 2012, 13:55:46 pm
I now have it in my possession.  Unfortunately, as my car had a "moment" the other day which required jump leads to fix, the CD/Radio has re-set itself to "SAFE" mode and I don't yet know how to unlock it. FFS.  :(
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Andy42g on February 10, 2012, 14:05:25 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3N62LwAXCpQ&feature=related
All sounds pretty good on Dance the Night Away from the Forum show.
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Andy42g on February 10, 2012, 14:09:52 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YmYXvoFgsE&feature=related
Hot for Teacher - loving the huge video screen behind them.
"Welcome to the Diamond Dave day care centre" :)
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Matt2112 on February 10, 2012, 14:32:29 pm
Quote from: JonL on February 09, 2012, 22:43:04 pm
Has he got even faster?


Certainly seems smoother than ever - strikes me he's been working on his legato to fantastic effect.

And I've just spoofed my work trousers over fret-gymnastics in the footage of Chinatown. :o
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Matt2112 on February 10, 2012, 21:32:33 pm
Quote from: Matt2112 on February 10, 2012, 13:55:46 pm
I now have it in my possession.  Unfortunately, as my car had a "moment" the other day which required jump leads to fix, the CD/Radio has re-set itself to "SAFE" mode and I don't yet know how to unlock it. FFS.  :(


Well - I looked up how to do this and I actually let out a cry of joy when I remembered the unlocking code on my fourth attempt!  Anyway, I've listened to the first four tracks - here's my brief first impressions:

Tattoo - Nice, radio-friendly, melodic, has synths; like it a lot.
She's The Woman - Suited the Friday evening drive home from work perfectly.  Great!
You And Your Blues - Solid stuff, some catchy hooks.  Like.
Chinatown - F#CK MY BOOTS!! THIS IS F##KING IMMENSE!!!  Eddie's fret-wizardry reaches new heights with this; positively Vai-like throughout. LOVE IT, LOVE IT!!!  8)  8)  ;D
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: captainkurtz on February 10, 2012, 21:37:34 pm
Liking this alot more after a solid week of listens.  Wolfgang is fantastic - more Billy Sheehan than Michael Anthony.

Roth sounds fine but very very different.  Wonder how he will sound after a few months on the road.

Outta Space is a favourite - sounds like it could have been lifted straight off their first record.

Edward is playing better than he has since 1984, in my opinion.

As much as I like it, Id still consider it to be the weakest of the DLR era - but far superior than anything they managed with Hagar.  Lets ignore the Gary Cherone era altogether..........
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Presto-digitation on February 10, 2012, 22:22:58 pm
Quote from: Matt2112 on February 10, 2012, 21:32:33 pm
Well - I looked up how to do this and I actually let out a cry of joy when I remembered the unlocking code on my fourth attempt!  Anyway, I've listened to the first four tracks - here's my brief first impressions:

Tattoo - Nice, radio-friendly, melodic, has synths; like it a lot.
She's The Woman - Suited the Friday evening drive home from work perfectly.  Great!
You And Your Blues - Solid stuff, some catchy hooks.  Like.
Chinatown - F#CK MY BOOTS!! THIS IS F##KING IMMENSE!!!  Eddie's fret-wizardry reaches new heights with this; positively Vai-like throughout. LOVE IT, LOVE IT!!!  8)  8)  ;D


There are a few more moments like that:  As Is and The Trouble With Never have similar types of riffs.
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: rascal houdi on February 12, 2012, 22:33:37 pm
Having lived with this for a few days now I have to say it sounds a lot like vintage VH to these ears, like it, a lot. :)
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Jonners on February 14, 2012, 10:30:42 am
Listened on my walk to work today.

Its OK, but found too many times the next song would start, and I didnt realise I had listened to the previous track

Quite like stay frosty, and honeybabiesweetiedoll, although I think Richie Blackmore did it better on gates of babylon
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Rob Barchetta on February 15, 2012, 14:22:38 pm
Quote from: rascal houdi on February 12, 2012, 22:33:37 pm
Having lived with this for a few days now I have to say it sounds a lot like vintage VH to these ears, like it, a lot. :)


Ditto  8)

Agree with Jonners too - some of them sound similar enough to kind of blend into each other. I'm sure that will ease as time goes by (I've only played it a couple of times so far  ;D)

Dont think we (DLR era VH fans) could have asked for more though  8) 8)
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Matt2112 on February 16, 2012, 13:02:18 pm
It's had a few spins now and I can state that out of all 13 tracks, there isn't a single duffer on this album.  They even had the foresight to make the weakest track (imo) - Bullethead - the shortest at two-and-a-half minutes. 

It's just a marvel of an album, and Eddie's playing is utterly mind-blowing. 8)
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Jonners on February 16, 2012, 13:09:46 pm
Not being a massive VH fan its probably not my job to pass too much comment on this album. Its certainly listenable to these ears.

What I do find though as a casual observer is that I am listening hard, probably too hard, for what EVH is doing, or waiting for his next burst, rather than listening to the song as a whole

However, what I can categorically say, if there was a band out there that I loved who had been AWOL like VH, and had then come back with an album of this quality, I would be very pleased indeed.

I dont expect comebacks from the likes of Sabbath or Soundgarden to be as strong
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: JonL on February 16, 2012, 13:35:32 pm
Quote from: Jonners on February 16, 2012, 13:09:46 pm

I dont expect comebacks from the likes of Sabbath or Soundgarden to be as strong


I'm hopeful for Soundgarden, Sabbath for me are 6 Ozzy albums and 2 Dio, no more.
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Straight Shooter on February 16, 2012, 14:39:46 pm
Van Halen; a new entry at #6 in this week's UK Album Chart  :)
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Matt2112 on February 16, 2012, 15:02:19 pm
Quote from: Straight Shooter on February 16, 2012, 14:39:46 pm
Van Halen; a new entry at #6 in this week's UK Album Chart  :)


#3 in Canada
and
#2 in the US, where they lost out to Adele.  Obviously in these times, people want someone to mope with rather than party. ::)
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Jonners on February 16, 2012, 15:27:04 pm
Dont imagine old Adele will be shopping at Karl  Lagervelds shop for a while!
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: captainkurtz on February 16, 2012, 16:29:28 pm
I love it now.

Been listening to it constantly and I don't think theres any filler either.  Been listening to it alot at the gym on headphones and Ed's playing is just stupendous.  Wolfgang too is quite a player.

Only concern really is whether Roth's vocals can withstand the tour.

Im feeling cautiously optimistic about a European tour - I cant believe that after this length of time theyve been away they'll just end the tour in the summer in the US.  Interscope really seem to be pushing the promotion impressively - was at the train station today and theres billboards everywhere.

Number 6 is the highest new entry theve ever had in the UK which has to bode well.

All the frustration of the last few years has disappeared.  :)

Tour starts in 2 days and the band are encouraging photos/videos, etc, so it should be all over youtube by Sunday.
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Andy42g on February 16, 2012, 17:00:52 pm
Quote from: captainkurtz on February 16, 2012, 16:29:28 pm
I love it now.
Been listening to it constantly and I don't think theres any filler either.  Been listening to it alot at the gym on headphones and Ed's playing is just stupendous.  Wolfgang too is quite a player.

Same here - really enjoying this album - no filler at all and even Tatrtoo with that keyboard ( :-\) is just great fun.
Rocked along to "Stay Frosty" in particular on the last listen, and I think Blood and Fire is a true classic VH track. Edward is on great form - some fine riffery and blinding soloing. AVH and Wolfgang are rock solid at the back. Dave's voice - may be the weak link, but he never was a great 'singer ' really: just a fantastic front man.

QuoteOnly concern really is whether Roth's vocals can withstand the tour.

Yeah - will be interesting. Would be fecking ace to see em though.
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Straight Shooter on February 17, 2012, 13:32:34 pm
Quote from: Matt2112 on February 16, 2012, 15:02:19 pm
Obviously in these times, people want someone to mope with rather than party. ::)

........and you'd prefer someone to grope with! Ain't that right, Matt?!  ;)  ;D
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Matt2112 on February 17, 2012, 13:35:07 pm
Quote from: Straight Shooter on February 17, 2012, 13:32:34 pm
........and you'd prefer someone to grope with! Ain't that right, Matt?!  ;)  ;D


You've got me there, bud.  :) Mind you, that still precludes Adele.  :-X  ;D
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Andy42g on February 17, 2012, 16:26:24 pm
http://vimeo.com/36588589
Love these. Dave's ramble about station wagons, stuffed deers etc is priceless. Blue Suede Hooves :)
There's the "Brown M&Ms" tale too in there.
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: captainkurtz on February 18, 2012, 12:12:10 pm
Someone has posted the setlist on another forum - looks immense.

4 tracks from new record and some deep cuts - women in love and girl gone bad, And the cradle will rock, Romeos delight.......

God, hope this comes to Europe.
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Andy42g on February 18, 2012, 12:40:50 pm
First show tonight....
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Nick on February 19, 2012, 13:08:45 pm
Beautiful Girls here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lvpf5h45Mc&feature=youtu.be
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Andy42g on February 19, 2012, 13:25:19 pm
Set:
1. You Really Got Me
2. Runnin' With The Devil
3. She's The Woman (NEW)
4. Romeo Delight
5. Tattoo (NEW)
6. Everybody Wants Some!!
7. Somebody Get Me A Doctor
8. China Town (NEW)
9. Mean Street
10. (Oh!) Pretty Woman
11. Drum Solo
12. Unchained
13. The Trouble With Never (NEW)
14. I'll Wait
15. Dance The Night Away
16. Hot For Teacher
17. Women In Love (A First since 1980!)
18. Outta Love Again (A First since 1979!)
19. Beautiful Girls
20. Ice Cream Man
21. Panama
22. Eddie's Solo
23. Ain't Talkin' 'Bout Love
24. Jump
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: JonL on February 19, 2012, 13:49:14 pm
Quote from: Andy42g on February 19, 2012, 13:25:19 pm

11. Drum Solo

22. Eddie's Solo



At least with Wolfie there's no bass solo.
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: captainkurtz on February 19, 2012, 14:25:05 pm
No filler in that setlist at all. Would like to have heard more from the new record though.

Clip of beautiful girls on you tube sounds great.
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: KEVINOWEN on February 19, 2012, 15:15:21 pm
Show now up on dime......... ;)
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Andy42g on February 20, 2012, 10:50:20 am
http://www.vhnd.com/2012/02/19/videos-opening-night-of-van-halens-2012-tour/
Some good quality footage here.
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: captainkurtz on February 20, 2012, 11:09:04 am
Interesting that the most common complaint is that they're not playing enough from the new record.

Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Captain Ron on February 20, 2012, 13:56:31 pm
Finally picked this up. £7 odd in Tesco. Looking forward to giving this a good solid cranked up blast in the car on the way home. :)
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: BlueBronco on February 20, 2012, 15:08:09 pm
Quote from: Pricey on February 06, 2012, 00:12:03 am
After 3 listens It's ok , nothing special


Same here...
Does anyone really think DLR will sound good live... sounds to me that he's struggling on the album!?  :-\
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Andy42g on February 20, 2012, 15:58:48 pm
Quote from: BlueBronco on February 20, 2012, 15:08:09 pm
Same here...
Does anyone really think DLR will sound good live... sounds to me that he's struggling on the album!?  :-\

Try some of the YouTube footage of the live shows they are now doing. Might give you a clue  :)
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Andy42g on February 20, 2012, 16:37:40 pm
Dave interviewing Ed and Al about their family and background. Interesting.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTe0p_j1Qdo&feature=related
Interesting to see someone else get a word in edgeways when Dave's around!
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Andy42g on February 20, 2012, 18:18:47 pm
Quote from: Bisto on February 20, 2012, 18:03:12 pm
This was already posted in Upset of the day but it belongs here equally if not more so! :)....

All very amusing but just wondering what the Van Halen connection is?
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Andrew_Haldane on February 20, 2012, 23:10:54 pm
Quote from: Andy42g on February 20, 2012, 18:18:47 pm
All very amusing but just wondering what the Van Halen connection is?


none at all sorry I am using my mob and hit the wrong link and posted here by mistake instead of Simple Pleasure Of The Day. I've removed it now.  Doh!
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: BlueBronco on February 21, 2012, 09:22:35 am
Quote from: Andy42g on February 20, 2012, 10:50:20 am
http://www.vhnd.com/2012/02/19/videos-opening-night-of-van-halens-2012-tour/
Some good quality footage here.


Well, if 'You really got me' is an indication then my suspicions are confirmed  :(
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Andy42g on February 21, 2012, 09:49:20 am
Quote from: BlueBronco on February 21, 2012, 09:22:35 am
Well, if 'You really got me' is an indication then my suspicions are confirmed  :(

Fair enough. But then again if you listen to/watch any of the old live footage he was always pretty ropey as regards actually being 'in tune'. Never a great singer - but always the perfect front man. He may have lost an octave and the ability to whoop like a train whistle, but he still struts his stuff in fine style. IMHO.
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Captain Ron on February 21, 2012, 11:28:25 am
Listened to this on the way home last night and it didn't really gel for me then this morning on the way back to work it sounds really rather tasty. Will take a good few spins to bed in. Awesome guitar work from Eddie! :)
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Presto-digitation on February 21, 2012, 13:38:18 pm
I enjoyed this live performance of Outta Love Again:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVCfSrp479Q&feature=player_embedded
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Andy42g on February 22, 2012, 13:12:48 pm
http://www.vhnd.com/2012/02/21/van-halen-interviews-part-2/
These are excellent - lots of great background. And these fellas have certainly managed to bury the hatchet by the looks of things.
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Andy42g on February 22, 2012, 13:18:02 pm
http://ultimateclassicrock.com/van-halen-rock-out-girl-gone-bad-for-first-time-in-28-years/?fb_comment_id=fbc_10150556966250877_20855397_10150557576975877
Girl Gone Bad in the Detroit set :) Woah - quite possibly the most aggressive VH track ever.
"Best fecking ending in the whole of rock and roll."
Oh - and Kool and the Gang really are the support act.
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Pricey on February 22, 2012, 17:26:06 pm
It's growing on me now .
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Captain Ron on February 22, 2012, 19:04:17 pm
Really enjoying the playing and general sense of rawness on this album but I am yet to be convinced by the songwriting. Couple of great hooks here and there but the whole thiing is a bit lacking in melody to these ears. Tattoo and Stay Frosty are the only two I can think of right now where I can recall the melody instantly. I can see me tiring of this quite quickly unless it pulls a miraculous revelation upon me some drink fuelled listening session. TBH though, I probably wouldn't be putting the effort in though if it wasn't for EVH's awesome playing.
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Andy42g on February 22, 2012, 22:22:37 pm
Quote from: Captain Ron on February 22, 2012, 19:04:17 pm
....TBH though, I probably wouldn't be putting the effort in though if it wasn't for EVH's awesome playing.

Err, but that would be the same throughout their career, surely, as Edward IS Van Halen pretty much?
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: captainkurtz on February 22, 2012, 22:24:29 pm
His playing (and writing) on iii was shit.
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Matt2112 on February 22, 2012, 22:28:17 pm
Quote from: captainkurtz on February 22, 2012, 22:24:29 pm
His playing (and writing) on iii was shit.


Without You is reasonable from that album on those counts for me...the rest is pretty much unlistenable, however.
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Captain Ron on February 22, 2012, 23:18:35 pm
I am quite embarrassed to admit that this is only the first Van Halen album i've actually bought! My younger brother was more into them and I just borrowed his cd's for casual listens although he did have big trouble getting me to part with 5150 at one point and I really should make a point of getting that one and the first 2 into my collection.
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: captainkurtz on February 22, 2012, 23:24:24 pm
Hang your head in shame.

Forget 5150, just get the first 6 ASAP - they're pretty cheap online now.
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: captainkurtz on February 23, 2012, 08:36:40 am
Hear About It Later played last night....first time since 1981.
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Jonners on February 23, 2012, 10:05:26 am
Is it me, or is Stay Frosty an "homage"/rip off of Crazy Little Thing Called Love by Queen?

Good song though!
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: captainkurtz on February 23, 2012, 10:13:30 am
Sounds like an updated Ice Cream Man to me....surprised theyre not playing it tbh.
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Analog RH on February 23, 2012, 10:14:33 am
Quote from: Captain Ron on February 22, 2012, 23:18:35 pm
I am quite embarrassed to admit that this is only the first Van Halen album i've actually bought! My younger brother was more into them and I just borrowed his cd's for casual listens although he did have big trouble getting me to part with 5150 at one point and I really should make a point of getting that one and the first 2 into my collection.


[ARH passes out.....]

The first VH album is one of the best albums ever released - certainly in my top 20......
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: captainkurtz on February 23, 2012, 10:17:16 am
....and Fair Warning is the greatest rock guitar record of all time.................
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Andy42g on February 23, 2012, 12:44:23 pm
Quote from: captainkurtz on February 23, 2012, 08:36:40 am
Hear About It Later played last night....first time since 1981.

:-)
Take it back to 1981: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCZ7AVX6BtI
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Andy42g on February 23, 2012, 12:46:57 pm
Quote from: Captain Ron on February 22, 2012, 23:18:35 pm
I am quite embarrassed to admit that this is only the first Van Halen album i've actually bought!

:o And so you should be embarrassed  :)
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Fuzzface on February 23, 2012, 21:37:14 pm
Quote from: captainkurtz on February 23, 2012, 10:17:16 am
....and Fair Warning is the greatest rock guitar record of all time.................


Yup!
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Jonners on February 24, 2012, 12:50:07 pm
Im feeling the need to explore VH back catalogue. Fair warning seems a logical place to start by the sound of things, that inbetween 1984 and VH1 era?
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Andy42g on February 24, 2012, 14:11:21 pm
Quote from: Jonners on February 24, 2012, 12:50:07 pm
Im feeling the need to explore VH back catalogue. Fair warning seems a logical place to start by the sound of things, that inbetween 1984 and VH1 era?

VH1 - Uber classic
VH2 - Ditto
Women & Children First - Probably my least favourite personally, but there's some great stuff on there.
Fair Warning - Dark, uncommercial and has some fantastic stuff on it. Buy.
Diver Down - Half covers and half the rest instrumentals. Lazy. One or two decent tracks.
1984 - Uber classic. Maybe suffers from containing "Jump", but the rest is absolutely phenomenal.
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Matt2112 on February 24, 2012, 14:30:55 pm
Quote from: Andy42g on February 24, 2012, 14:11:21 pm
VH1 - Uber classic
VH2 - Ditto
Women & Children First - Probably my least favourite personally, but there's some great stuff on there.
Fair Warning - Dark, uncommercial and has some fantastic stuff on it. Buy.
Diver Down - Half covers and half the rest instrumentals. Lazy. One or two decent tracks.
1984 - Uber classic. Maybe suffers from containing "Jump", but the rest is absolutely phenomenal.


Might as well keep going...

5150 - Uber classic.  Chock full of big radio-friendly chorus hooks and lovely pop synths.  ;D
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Jonners on February 24, 2012, 15:15:58 pm
cheers gents

I do find 1984 a little "light" for my tastes, so Fair warning could be the one
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Dixkot on February 24, 2012, 16:46:29 pm


Once you've tried the above recommendations Jonners, move on up to the wonders of :  Balance, F.U.C.K & OU812.
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: captainkurtz on February 24, 2012, 16:50:15 pm
Don't bother with the Hagar records.  Cheese.
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: ophidianman on February 24, 2012, 16:57:59 pm
Quote from: captainkurtz on February 24, 2012, 16:50:15 pm
Don't bother with the Hagar records.  Cheese.


Sacrilege, Sammy rocks......Love the time you posted though. Mr Hagar must've been watching over you  :)
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Presto-digitation on February 24, 2012, 19:29:57 pm
I recommend all the Roth albums, truly....including the oft-dismissed Diver Down, which while full of covers is still a very FUN album.
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: döm on February 24, 2012, 20:19:33 pm
Quote from: Presto-digitation on February 24, 2012, 19:29:57 pm
I recommend all the Roth albums, truly....including the oft-dismissed Diver Down, which while full of covers is still a very FUN album.

Agree with this - you certainly get the impression that they're having a blast making this one.  I can't listen to "Big Bad Bill" without laughing
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: JonL on February 24, 2012, 21:14:09 pm
Quote from: Presto-digitation on February 24, 2012, 19:29:57 pm
I recommend all the Roth albums, truly....including the oft-dismissed Diver Down, which while full of covers is still a very FUN album.

That was my first taste of VH thanks to my sister borrowing it from the library, on cassette. Still my favourite.
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Captain Ron on February 24, 2012, 21:31:50 pm
Another vote for OU812 here. Don't like Balance or F.U.C.K though. Largely tuneless.
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: JonL on February 24, 2012, 22:53:26 pm
I like the first 2 Hagar albums, feck has a few decent tunes too. Hate the title though.
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Matt2112 on February 24, 2012, 23:08:04 pm
Quote from: Captain Ron on February 24, 2012, 21:31:50 pm
Another vote for OU812 here. Don't like Balance or F.U.C.K though. Largely tuneless.


I agree about For Unlawful... but I think Balance is a very strong album; and it has that big, bold, polished sheen production of which I'm infamously fond.  ;)
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Presto-digitation on February 24, 2012, 23:58:16 pm
I'm a fan of Sam Halen too.  Prefer them in the following order:  5150, Carnal Knowledge (probably the best SOUNDING Hagar/VH album...sounds closest to the original band-thanks Mr. Templeman), Balance, and OU812.   I wouldn't rank the worst of them lower than a C+/B-.  All quite listenable.  The bottom two are pretty spotty to me.  A few swings and misses for sure.

Van Halen 3 is a tall order and a tough swallow all the way around.   That the new album actually follows 3 in the sequence of things suggests miracles do indeed occur.
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Presto-digitation on February 25, 2012, 00:01:03 am
Quote from: Matt2112 on February 24, 2012, 23:08:04 pm
I agree about For Unlawful... but I think Balance is a very strong album; and it has that big, bold, polished sheen production of which I'm infamously fond.  ;)


Not a huge fan of Ed's guitar tone here, but I totally agree that the BEEFY production is a plus.  A song like Seventh Seal just pummels me.
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: captainkurtz on February 25, 2012, 09:43:01 am
I'm being harsh about the Hagar years because I love the Roth era so much.

They'd run out of gas by balance though - beautiful production, as Matt says, but way too much filler - would have made a good EP. Awful cover too.

I too love Diver Down - I dont think it's fair to say it's lazy - they make the originals their own and the original material is all killer. I think it's on record that it was only ever intended to be a covers EP but they would under record company pressure to deliver a full record.

Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Presto-digitation on February 25, 2012, 14:06:03 pm
I even like Dancing In the Streets.  They do good covers.  Agree that it's a good album ESPECIALLY given the pressure they were under to put together a full record around (Oh) Pretty Woman.
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Analog RH on February 25, 2012, 20:32:14 pm
Quote from: captainkurtz on February 25, 2012, 09:43:01 am

They'd run out of gas by Balance though - beautiful production, as Matt says, but way too much filler - would have made a good EP. Awful cover too.



Agree with all of that. I've listened to the first five songs on that album more than any other VH record apart from the debut, but after that it peters out imho......
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: captainkurtz on February 25, 2012, 21:27:53 pm
Hmmm, track 2 is 'cant stop loving you' and tracks 4 and 5 are 'Amsterdam' and 'Big Fat Money'

Awful.

I really like 'Baluchitherium' and album closer 'Feelin'', though.  The former sounds like it could have come from 'Victor'.
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Analog RH on February 26, 2012, 12:22:08 pm
Quote from: captainkurtz on February 25, 2012, 21:27:53 pm
Hmmm, track 2 is 'cant stop loving you' and tracks 4 and 5 are 'Amsterdam' and 'Big Fat Money'

Awful.



Lyrically banal, but the riffs are smokin'.

(You know me, Hass..... always awkward.......  ;D)
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Andy42g on February 26, 2012, 19:06:05 pm
Quote from: dom on February 24, 2012, 20:19:33 pm
Agree with this - you certainly get the impression that they're having a blast making this one.  I can't listen to "Big Bad Bill" without laughing

I certainly get the impression they spent about 10 minutes making that album.  :) Full bug and Little Guitars are great, mind.
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Andy42g on February 26, 2012, 19:08:32 pm
Quote from: Presto-digitation on February 25, 2012, 14:06:03 pm
I even like Dancing In the Streets. 

Blimey you are a fanboi.  ;)
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Andy42g on February 26, 2012, 19:16:27 pm
Quote from: Presto-digitation on February 24, 2012, 23:58:16 pm
I'm a fan of Sam Halen too.  Prefer them in the following order:  5150, Carnal Knowledge (probably the best SOUNDING Hagar/VH album...sounds closest to the original band-thanks Mr. Templeman), Balance, and OU812.   I wouldn't rank the worst of them lower than a C+/B-.  All quite listenable.  The bottom two are pretty spotty to me.  A few swings and misses for sure.

About right. 5150 was great on it's release but for me sounds badly dated now with all them keyboards etc. OU812 has some awful filler on it. Best live DVD ROIO came from that tour though - the Japanese TV one. Bloody amazing. F.U.C.K. was pretty rocking, and it was great to see them in the UK  touring it.
Balance has some fabulous tracks and sounds great production-wise. Yeah- would have been better with some editing. And the lyrics are horrible. Still - Amsterdam is fun and the live version (see Toronto ROIO DVD) is fabulous.  Same as with Roth era - first and last albums are the best.

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Van Halen 3 is a tall order and a tough swallow all the way around.   

Yeah - tried that one again recently and it's still terrible.  :-\
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Jonners on February 27, 2012, 10:24:19 am
Gave fair warning a try this weekend.

Am I missing something? Lots and lots of guitars, but some really poor songs

VH are starting to remind me a bit of a nuclear missile. EVH and his solos is/are the war head ie the important/exciting bit, and the rest of the band is the rocket delivering the payload, which in the end does a job, but not massively interesting in the grand scheme of things
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: captainkurtz on February 27, 2012, 10:41:22 am
Cloth ears.
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Jonners on February 27, 2012, 11:05:41 am
hoisted by my own petard!
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Gary L. Grape on February 27, 2012, 11:13:48 am
Quote from: Jonners on February 27, 2012, 10:24:19 amVH are starting to remind me a bit of a nuclear missile. EVH and his solos is/are the war head ie the important/exciting bit, and the rest of the band is the rocket delivering the payload, which in the end does a job, but not massively interesting in the grand scheme of things

That's actually very well put. Ok, so there are some killer VH songs, but on the whole Jonners is pretty much spot on with this comparison.
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Jonners on February 27, 2012, 12:02:11 pm
Blimey....
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Gary L. Grape on February 27, 2012, 12:09:50 pm
What's the matter Jonners, do you find it hard to believe that I agree with you on something...? ;)
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Jonners on February 27, 2012, 12:21:56 pm
not specifically you, just anyone!!!
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Captain Ron on February 27, 2012, 17:07:12 pm
Try 5150 Jonners. I think you will find the song quality very high and on a par with the guitar work.
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Andy42g on February 27, 2012, 17:10:09 pm
Quote from: Jonners on February 27, 2012, 10:24:19 am
Am I missing something? Lots and lots of guitars, but some really poor songs

Ah - I get it: you are deaf. One duff song "Push comes to shove" and a couple of fillers at the end, but otherwise maybe 4 of their best songs ever in Mean Street, Unchained, Hear About it Later and So this is Love.
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Jonners on February 27, 2012, 18:38:56 pm
Quote from: Captain Ron on February 27, 2012, 17:07:12 pm
Try 5150 Jonners. I think you will find the song quality very high and on a par with the guitar work.


I quite like the 2nd song , something like "why cant this be love" or similar. Catchy tune
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Jonners on February 27, 2012, 18:41:21 pm
Quote from: Andy42g on February 27, 2012, 17:10:09 pm
Ah - I get it: you are deaf. One duff song "Push comes to shove" and a couple of fillers at the end, but otherwise maybe 4 of their best songs ever in Mean Street, Unchained, Hear About it Later and So this is Love.


To be fair, it was only 1 listen while having a fast walk round Sutton Park, so I have not given up hope just yet....
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: captainkurtz on February 27, 2012, 19:13:00 pm
Quote from: Andy42g on February 27, 2012, 17:10:09 pm
Ah - I get it: you are deaf. One duff song "Push comes to shove" and a couple of fillers at the end, but otherwise maybe 4 of their best songs ever in Mean Street, Unchained, Hear About it Later and So this is Love.


One duff song and a couple of fillers?  Think you might need a visit to the ear doctor as well, Andy.

It's sheer unadulterated genius from start to finish and the cover art (and the story behind it) is brilliant.
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Captain Ron on February 27, 2012, 23:26:57 pm
Quote from: Jonners on February 27, 2012, 18:38:56 pm
I quite like the 2nd song , something like "why cant this be love" or similar. Catchy tune


That is a cool song but the killer for me is Get Up (and make it work). One of my very favourite rock songs. It has a sense of almost spinning out of control about it but it holds itself together. The extreme synchopated cowbell against the pedal work alone makes me grin from ear to ear as the song bludgeons me around the room. :)
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Andy42g on February 28, 2012, 11:20:24 am
Quote from: captainkurtz on February 27, 2012, 19:13:00 pm
One duff song and a couple of fillers?  Think you might need a visit to the ear doctor as well, Andy.

:) Earplugs at gigs are helping.  But the keyboard drone track isn't filler? And one foot out the door.... hmmm.

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... the cover art (and the story behind it) is brilliant.

Agreed.
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Andy42g on February 28, 2012, 11:22:09 am
Quote from: Captain Ron on February 27, 2012, 23:26:57 pm
That is a cool song but the killer for me is Get Up (and make it work). One of my very favourite rock songs. It has a sense of almost spinning out of control about it but it holds itself together. The extreme synchopated cowbell against the pedal work alone makes me grin from ear to ear as the song bludgeons me around the room. :)

The Live Without a Net version of that is amazing with Eddie stood right next to Alex throughout - how they stay synchronised at those speeds is remarkable.
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Presto-digitation on February 28, 2012, 17:55:48 pm
Quote from: Gary L. Grape on February 27, 2012, 11:13:48 am
That's actually very well put. Ok, so there are some killer VH songs, but on the whole Jonners is pretty much spot on with this comparison.


Well it's a matter of taste and style.  VH does a lot of things...a bit of punk, the cock rock, etc.  Not saying they don't have filler, but even their filler has flair and style to me, from the guitars down to the vocals.  Lots of charm in this band, even as they're fecking around.  There's a sense of humour that comes with Van Halen.  Best not to take them seriously at all.  But at the end of it all, they either rub you right or they can annoy.  Those that get it understand why and those who don't seem to think it's much ado...
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: captainkurtz on February 28, 2012, 18:29:02 pm
Still loving this record and listening to on a daily basis.
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Captain Ron on February 28, 2012, 22:26:07 pm
I'd be listening to it too but i've lent it to friend as a thankyou for helping my dear lady with some meds to help her with breathing in the midst of an awful chest infection.
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Andy42g on March 03, 2012, 23:51:19 pm
Quote from: captainkurtz on February 28, 2012, 18:29:02 pm
Still loving this record and listening to on a daily basis.

Listened to it all through again while out running this morning. Marvellous.
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: captainkurtz on March 04, 2012, 00:07:41 am
Opened with Unchained second night at MSG and also played the Full Bug.

Eddie is an absolute revelation this tour - not just in his general playing bit in his all round demeanour.

Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Andy42g on March 04, 2012, 00:41:16 am
Quote from: captainkurtz on March 04, 2012, 00:07:41 am
Opened with Unchained second night at MSG and also played the Full Bug.

Pant filling. Mean Street has been played too  8). Girl Gone Bad. Hear About it Later.  8)  :'(  :o

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Eddie is an absolute revelation this tour - not just in his general playing bit in his all round demeanour.

Yup. Looks like he's enjoying it immensely.
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Captain Ron on March 04, 2012, 02:34:29 am
I love it when bands come out of the woodwork like this and play an absolute blinder. Reminds of when Extreme came out with Saudades De Rock. BOOM! :D
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Matt2112 on March 04, 2012, 17:15:23 pm
Big River is my current favourite.  I'm still getting new things from this album with every listen. :)
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Presto-digitation on March 06, 2012, 01:43:52 am
I agree Matt.
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Matt2112 on March 07, 2012, 13:23:02 pm
And my favourite solo changes with every other listen!  They are all technically impressive in their own ways, of course, but it's his...application that sets him apart from his flair-player contemporaries.  How he synergises such a beautiful degree of musicality and feel with the flashy tricks is his genius for me.  It's utterly thrilling.  It's what the likes of Vai and Satch strive to achieve, but with nowhere near the same degree of success, in my opinion.

Who knew EVH would be as brilliant with a whammy pedal (Honeybabysweetiedoll) as he is with, say, the touch-harmonics-on-a-string-bend (Tattoo, Stay Frosty) - not just in the execution but their placement.

I'm just in complete awe that goes way beyond mere fanboidom, obviously.  :o ;D
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Captain Ron on March 07, 2012, 13:30:06 pm
:D
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: captainkurtz on March 07, 2012, 13:50:04 pm
Beautifully put, Matt.  Think you've hit the nail squarely on the head.
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Andrew_Haldane on March 07, 2012, 14:29:17 pm
Quote from: Matt2112 on March 07, 2012, 13:23:02 pm
And my favourite solo changes with every other listen!  They are all technically impressive in their own ways, of course, but it's his...application that sets him apart from his flair-player contemporaries.  How he synergises such a beautiful degree of musicality and feel with the flashy tricks is his genius for me.  It's utterly thrilling.  It's what the likes of Vai and Satch strive to achieve, but with nowhere near the same degree of success, in my opinion.

Who knew EVH would be as brilliant with a whammy pedal (Honeybabysweetiedoll) as he is with, say, the touch-harmonics-on-a-string-bend (Tattoo, Stay Frosty) - not just in the execution but their placement.

I'm just in complete awe that goes way beyond mere fanboidom, obviously.  :o ;D


Thats a fair Gusset moistening review Matt ;) will have to give it another whirl having read that :D
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Matt2112 on March 07, 2012, 16:37:20 pm
You know what, I could bang on and on and on about the playing on this record.  It's just such a complete and natural and inventive and exciting performance.  And he does it all with a smile on his face!

I can feel a track-by-track dissertation coming on...  :o  ::)
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: BlueBronco on March 07, 2012, 23:07:59 pm
I really want to have the same opinion of this album as people on this thread but I just don't hear it  :(

If I'm honest I find it no more than average and when played back to back with I, 1984 and 5150 it just sounds dull to me... sure there are 1 or 2 songs that I would listen to again but I really don't think it's going to hold my interest for much longer.

The same was happening with people raving about AC/DC Black Ice being a great return to form/classic etc - how many people play this now!?

I guess my taste has broadened somewhat since I was seriously into all forms of VH, but I still love the above mentioned albums...
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Presto-digitation on March 08, 2012, 03:24:48 am
Tattoo: Well the single got people talking. Some immediately loved this mid-tempo, groove-oriented, keyboard textured number and others had a bit of a fit about it, but the online world was buzzing about the first new VH song since 2004. I think the song is great, although after hearing the entire album I get why some would've been more interested to hear a bit more of a classic romp. I think given that this was the first Roth album in 28 years and that there were a number of old school sounding clips on this sucker, I'd have opted out of Tattoo as the first release as well. That said, it's certainly overly-maligned, some calling it the worst song in their catalogue. Hyperbole is let off the leash once again. The song is groovy, catchy (the whole "Swap meet Sally..." line onward is infectious), and generally well done. The lyrics are great, Roth talking about the various reasons we get tats, from the impulsive ("why are the crazy things we never say poetry in ink") to the poignant ("...he fought for the unions, some of us still do"). The solo was a good indication of Edward making a nice return to form. The ending includes a warms set of EVH volume swells. Arguably it's in my bottom third, but it's still a very good song. That said I'd have made this a middle-of-the-record cut and let it be an album gem rather than the CD's first outward reflection. Tattoo might lumber in mid-tempo and sacrifice a true riff for a catchy rhythm bed, but the rest of the album would not.

She's The Woman: This song flat out smokes, from the cool bass run over the guitar lead right into the main riff, you know you've entered classic Van Halen territory. In fact you have with this Gene Simmons-era VH demo breathed new life. The lyrics are new, but the leather is broken in. It's three minutes of trailer trash cock rock glory with a clever sense of humor and a musical attack that aims to knock you off your seat. Lyrically it's the DLR you'd expect, with lines ranging from "your knight in shining pickup truck" to one that always brings a laugh, "this suburban garbage-a-trois was worth exploring." Most simply can't get away with this kind of thing and yet it falls from Roth's tongue as naturally as Edward lays down a sick riff. Like a session of mid-afternoon delight, this song is begun and done before it gets its pants fully down.

You And Your Blues: The first entirely new track on the album and it's a keeper. I love the opening guitar phrase and Roth's verse delivery. That smoky-throated hook is quite atmospheric. Lyrically the song is an homage to blues and rock song titles and lyrics and it works really well. The pre-chorus into the chorus is quite successful. There's a lot of angst in Roth's delivery of the chorus and also a little strain, but the two work in tandem together under the blissful background vocals. The fade out ending is a nice touch, with a shimmering bit (keyboards?) over the intro phrase. Has a Hagar-era feel to the music with the typical Roth stylings. Nice and moddy. A bit dark.

China Town: Up-tempo rears its head on this blazing track. Opening with a very cool bit of EVH noodling, the song immediately descends into a double kick frenzy reminiscent of Hot For Teacher-meets-Get Up, but with a darker lyrical (and tonal) vibe. The song is literally about New York City's China Town, where, apparently, Roth now makes his home. You've got to love a song whose opening line after a furious intro is "headless body in a topless bar..." The song would be right at home on Fair Warning, truth be told. This is probably Wolfie's finest moment on the album, often trading fast licks and playing high on the neck in tandem with Edward, bringing to mind the likes of Sheehan's Shy Boy on DLR's Eat Em & Smile. An unrelenting throttle (for those liking their ass-kicking Motorhead style) and one of my favorite cuts on the album. Break out your Alex Van Halen neck brace for this one.

Blood & Fire: Always a band to deliver a top down, summertime track somewhere, the boys come through here on this song that immediately brings Diver Down or 1984 to mind. Specifically Blood & Fire has a Little Guitars flavor to it and lyrics that reflect back on the band reuniting and Roth's return to the VH fold. The verses are classic Van Halen and feature some of Roth's best deliveries on the album. In another singer's hands such lines would fall flat or read as overblown, but Roth delivers a hushed "Told ya I was coming back. Say you missed me..." in a way that doesn't draw an eye-roll but a legitimate chill. That such a poignant moment is followed by a furious solo (one of Ed's best on the album) solidifies the song. The tune ends on the same lilting guitar figure it begins with over some signature DLR hums. Really a fantastic song and one I would have considered for a lead-off single.

Bullethead: From poignant back to pounding, this blink-and-you'll-miss-it oldie begins with a shrill EVH tone before diving into an almost One Foot Out The Door, punk-like riff and tempo. Clocking in at under 3 minutes, it lives up to its punky inspiration. The highlight of the song is the break right before the solo, with Roth seething low "I'm a bullethead" in true early 80s VH fashion. There are TONS of classic moments on this album and they pop up and disappear quickly, and this break is one of them. Nothing overtly complicated about this one. Arguably it's borderline filler even, but it's both furious and infectious all at the same time. It acts as an effective (and quick) counter weight to some of the headier, more musical numbers. I laugh at timely lyric, "no light at the end of the tunnel due to budget constraints."

As Is: Probably the most musically playful song on the CD and one of my favorites for that reason. The song begins with this dirgy slow tempo plod that really sets a certain tone before launching into a really hyper-boogie. In this one Roth croons about accepting life on life's terms and taking things as they come. The pre-chorus/chorus is incredible, this double-kick monster with signature VH shout backs (..."dropped and chopped Alabama chrome, but what the hell, it runs, so...."). The real surprise comes in the break where the band suddenly drops into this clean guitar and high hat strut under a dry and upfront Roth vocal before a drum roll and chordal descent takes us back into the double kick fury of the pre-chorus. One of my single favorite moments of the record. The tune ends on a long and drawn out fade out. As close to "epic" as the album comes.

Honeybabysweetiedoll: Just hearing the run-on title probably evokes a Hot For Teacher type cheeky tune and lyrically that's close to the mark. What's surprising here is just how heavy and dark this song actually is. Another one that could've come off Fair Warning, Honeybaby begins with a noodling of noises before Edward launches into this quasi-middle-eastern riff, which is both very cool and quite new for VH. Roth's voice here is more a delivery method for vibe and attitude and that's apparent in the second verse, which just oozes over this rumbling staccato phrase underneath it. The hair-raising moment is the guitar break that leads into the solo, which is accented by the drums coming back in on a snare roll and a guttural scream by Roth. The lead that follows is probably my favorite on the entire album and there are plenty of good ones to choose from. It's an odd little song, uniquely structured and what it lacks in conventional verse/chorus layout it makes up for with its sick ambience. I love tunes like this and glad they were able to find room on the record for oddity like this one.

The Trouble With Never: This song picks up with that same Vai-Sheehan feel you first got listening to bits of China Town. Edward is wah-pedal-happy here and is unashamedly stomping on the box all song long. Wolf follows Eddie's lines on this one and the father and son have some incredible tandem moments. The song itself is melodic and catchy, DLR oozing more fun lines like "Every Einstein's assigned a Tweedle Dumb and Tweedle Dumber..." The chorus is classic Van Halen harmony. Trouble represents a really nice blending of more progressive guitar playing with a commercial melody. Things change up at the break as the band drops into this low bass and drum rumble with a cool finger-wagging Roth delivery before Ed re-enters the picture with a really superb transitional riff that takes us back to the pre-chorus.

Outta Space: Like Bullethead, it's a slight number that barely has time to register in your head before it's over, but Outta Space delivers probably the coolest and most classic hard-rock riff on the album. The tempo blazes as Roth both humorously and poignantly (love his ability to blend humor and "statement" without sounding either ridiculous or preachy) croons about how we've screwed ourselves here on Earth and how he's been a part of the problem. This song is under 3-minutes of not-a-moment-wasted ass-kicking glory. Filler to some because of its straight-forward approach, Outta Space is a first album-era delight to these ears. It might not push any new musical boundaries, but it's sure a joy to hear Van Halen play this kind of tune once again. How Many Say I burns on a pyre somewhere each time this song is played.

Stay Frosty: The comparisons to Ice Cream Man are both fair and inevitable, but I like this tune a lot more (at least partly because this one isn't a cover tune). And, in fact, Stay Frosty borrows as much from the likes of Could This Be Magic in terms of the vocal melody, but the blues boogie quality makes the Ice Cream Man point of reference unavoidable. Lyrically it's probably the coolest song on the album, with Roth taking a cheeky stab at all sorts of religious perspectives as he travels north, south, east and west on a journey. Just about every line is well thought out. The opening verse is a bit wordy, but DLR quickly falls into a comfortable rhythm. Less than halfway through, the song supplants its acoustic jangle for a crunchy blues guitar backdrop and a solid beat. The solo sections are some of my favorites on the album. The song ends on an over the top, drawn out, "thank you Cleveland!!"-like conclusion that literally goes on for half-a-minute. Rolling Stone said of the song's ending: "It's ridiculous. It's obnoxious. It's awesome." Indeed.

Big River: Probably the best song on the record and vies for being my favorite as well. The song screams classic-era and features Roth's best singing from start to finish. The chorus will stick in your head like none other. The solo(s) by Ed are multi-part and multi-style as well and marks what's arguably a high-point for the guitarist on the record. Had I been in charge of decisions regarding promotion of this album, Big River would've been the first thing fans heard over the airwaves. There are a lot of fine choices on the album, but this feels sublimely confident and perfectly Van Halen from note one. There is no mistaking who or what you're listening to and after the likes of Van Halen 3, that insufferable itch finally gets the long scratching it deserves right here.

Beats Workin':The album ends with another fine cut, which begins with a lumbering chordal sequence and drum pattern that harkens back to the intro of Somebody Get Me A Doctor, but instead of staying that darker course, a 4-beat high-hat transition takes us into a very classic 70s Van Halen riff. The songs extols the privilege of being successful. One of my favorite lines is "one empty floor stands between the stage and the welfare door." The classic groove takes a turn with a spotlight solo bass rumble which is reminiscent of Day Tripper before Ed's almost ethereal guitar chimes in to join him. The guitars in this section (as well as the solo) bring to mind the Hagar-era style of Ed's work, so what a trip this song is that blends ultra-classic VH riffing with his later-era playing as well. The tune fades out on EVH's playing and drawn out whammy bar-laden distortion, and I can't think of a more appropriate way to take fans out.
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Matt2112 on March 08, 2012, 10:20:30 am
Excellent review, P-d, really enjoyed that and I endorse every word of it. :)  Especially regarding Tattoo, which reflects my own thoughts so accurately I find it quite uncanny!  :o  8)

I'll knock together a fawning appraisal of EVH's performance at some point.
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Andy42g on March 08, 2012, 21:01:53 pm
Quote from: BlueBronco on March 07, 2012, 23:07:59 pm


The same was happening with people raving about AC/DC Black Ice being a great return to form/classic etc - how many people play this now!?


Me.  :) Top album. Although it's my own edit without any of the tracks that begin with the words "Rock and Roll..."

Great review P-D. Spot on. Still loving the CD.
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: captainkurtz on March 08, 2012, 21:03:16 pm
I said Black Ice was pants after the first listen.
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Presto-digitation on March 09, 2012, 02:51:05 am
Since her ex-husband Eddie Van Halen so far isn't doing any interviews in support of his band's new album and tour, Valerie Bertinelli called into WRIF Detroit's Drew and Mike show to talk about how the band, and specifically their son Wolfgang, is doing out on the road.

The 'Hot in Cleveland' actress was proud to talk about her son's skills - "Wolfie can definitely back up everything with his playing, you can't deny that he is an excellent bass player and an excellent musician, his voice is amazing."

She also addressed Van Halen fans upset that her son took over founding bassist Michael Anthony's role in the band, and explained it's the only way Eddie would be making musical publicly. "I loved Mike too, I thought he was a really nice guy, still do," Bertinelli explains. "But the only way this tour is happening is because Eddie gets to play with his son Wolfie. Otherwise, this tour wouldn't be going on, it really wouldn't."

According to her, the lure of playing music with their son is the main factor that convinced the guitar wizard to get the band back together: "This brings joy to Ed, and that's what he wants to do now, just have fun playing. As great as Mike is, this wouldn't be happening if Mike was still in the band."

She also has a message "for any of the fans that are truly angry that Mike's not in the band... at least they get to see a version of the band. You're getting to see Dave and Ed and Al play together. I know I'm a little prejudiced but.. my son kicks ass! And Ed's playing better than ever, you've gotta give him that."

As to how the about-to-be 21 Wolfgang is doing on the road, well, shocker, "he's having the time of his life. I try to tell him not to read the internet, but he reads some of the horrible things that people say, no matter what they're not going to be pleased. I try to tell him, 'you're not going to please everybody, it's impossible.' Especially people who are so passionate about this band. But he's having such a great time, I think those naysayer voices are fading quickly in the back."

She also revealed that her son has been taking lots of vocal courses -- "he does his homework!" -- and got his high school degree just recently after missing much of the 11th grade due to being out on the band's 2007/08 tour.

Did she have any words of warning for her former sparring partner David Lee Roth, about how to treat her child on the road? "No, Dave doesn't need to have any words from me. He's a grown man, he knows how to treat people. Everything with Dave is water under the bridge. I think he's doing an amazing job. I run into him very infrequently, but when we do it's always pleasant."

As to why she's so friendly with her ex and his bandmates: "With age comes wisdom, I guess. I always choose to look at the good side. These are really great people. This is my son. I just want him to be happy. And this is a dream come true for Ed."
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Presto-digitation on March 09, 2012, 02:51:34 am
Quote from: Matt2112 on March 08, 2012, 10:20:30 am
Excellent review, P-d, really enjoyed that and I endorse every word of it. :)  Especially regarding Tattoo, which reflects my own thoughts so accurately I find it quite uncanny!  :o  8)

I'll knock together a fawning appraisal of EVH's performance at some point.


Looking forward to it Matt.
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: captainkurtz on March 09, 2012, 08:30:26 am
Nice words from Val.

Dave said the same thing back in 2007 - Ed just wants to play with his son. 
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Matt2112 on March 09, 2012, 12:12:30 pm
Yes, considering the dark places he's been in the not-too-distant past, it's fantastic to see Eddie apparently as happy as he's ever been - I'm pretty convinced this is reflected in the fact his playing, as Val says, really is at least as good as it's ever been; I'd actually say the best it's ever been.  There's no doubt in my mind that his legato in particular has improved immeasurably and the work he's surely put into it is paying off superbly.  He's really turbo-charged his playing and I'm delighted for him - and us. :)
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Presto-digitation on March 09, 2012, 13:52:55 pm
Quote from: Matt2112 on March 09, 2012, 12:12:30 pm
Yes, considering the dark places he's been in the not-too-distant past, it's fantastic to see Eddie apparently as happy as he's ever been - I'm pretty convinced this is reflected in the fact his playing, as Val says, really is at least as good as it's ever been; I'd actually say the best it's ever been.  There's no doubt in my mind that his legato in particular has improved immeasurably and the work he's surely put into it is paying off superbly.  He's really turbo-charged his playing and I'm delighted for him - and us. :)


I read an interview in '08 with both Wolf and Ed...and EVH went on about how as his son was learning the songs and they'd play them as a trio, that Wolf would point out places where his dad was playing it incorrectly.  I'm sure the amount of inspiration and pleasure derived from working with his kid has been ALL the difference, and, as Val says, the very reason we've had two tours and an album.  Beyond that, the kid's good and deserves to start getting more credit and fewer fat jokes.  His voice is strong, his bass playing is far beyond what I thought it was, etc.  All that adds up to Mike still being the odd man out, but under these circumstances and with the quality we've gotten, I can live with that.  I'm not sure I could've said that in early 2007...and had ZERO idea of how this young man would sound on a new record.  He's quietly and nearly completely hitting all the right marks as far as I'm concerned.  This had the blueprint for being a disaster and it's been anything but....
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Matt2112 on March 09, 2012, 16:23:44 pm
Quote from: Presto-digitation on March 09, 2012, 13:52:55 pmThis had the blueprint for being a disaster and it's been anything but....


Absolutely. It's all certainly far exceeded even my highest expectations.  A tremendous album followed by a tour with apparently magnificent performances over multiple sell-out nights at the enormo-arenas - I'm pretty stunned at this Lazarus-like comeback and enjoying the ride enormously. 8)
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: captainkurtz on March 09, 2012, 16:28:52 pm
Id enjoy it more if they came to Europe.
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Danforth on March 09, 2012, 16:32:52 pm
Quote from: Presto-digitation on March 08, 2012, 03:24:48 am
Honeybabysweetiedoll: Just hearing the run-on title probably evokes a Hot For Teacher type cheeky tune and lyrically that's close to the mark. What's surprising here is just how heavy and dark this song actually is. Another one that could've come off Fair Warning, Honeybaby begins with a noodling of noises before Edward launches into this quasi-middle-eastern riff, which is both very cool and quite new for VH. Roth's voice here is more a delivery method for vibe and attitude and that's apparent in the second verse, which just oozes over this rumbling staccato phrase underneath it. The hair-raising moment is the guitar break that leads into the solo, which is accented by the drums coming back in on a snare roll and a guttural scream by Roth. The lead that follows is probably my favorite on the entire album and there are plenty of good ones to choose from. It's an odd little song, uniquely structured and what it lacks in conventional verse/chorus layout it makes up for with its sick ambience. I love tunes like this and glad they were able to find room on the record for oddity like this one.


Does anyone hear one of Dave's dogs barking in the little break at 3.15 in the song or is it just me? anyway it always brings a smile to my face when it comes along ;D
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Matt2112 on March 09, 2012, 18:15:50 pm
Quote from: captainkurtz on March 09, 2012, 16:28:52 pm
Id enjoy it more if they came to Europe.


Indeed - there is that.  ;D
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Presto-digitation on March 10, 2012, 00:47:10 am
Quote from: Danforth on March 09, 2012, 16:32:52 pm
Does anyone hear one of Dave's dogs barking in the little break at 3.15 in the song or is it just me? anyway it always brings a smile to my face when it comes along ;D


Indeed...!  It's perfectly strange in a DLR way and it pushes my dog-friendly buttons as well.   ;D
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Spirit of Rich on March 14, 2012, 18:24:29 pm
One for VH fans and gear-heads alike  :)

http://www.rig-talk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=112709&p=1320518#p1320518 (http://www.rig-talk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=112709&p=1320518#p1320518)

Awesome.
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: captainkurtz on March 14, 2012, 22:45:32 pm
Chap from Kool and the gang has said they are looking to bring the tour to Europe in the summer and also that there is a collaboration between both bands planned. Song is called 'Harley Davidson'

I feel a stalk coming on - and I'm not talking about the erection in my underpants.
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Presto-digitation on March 14, 2012, 23:53:02 pm
I'd heard Roth mention Australia too.  I sure hope they get off this continent later in the year.  You folks (and others) have been waiting a long time and I hope you get them.
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: captainkurtz on March 15, 2012, 00:04:46 am
Still listening to the record daily.

Someone has uploaded a 26 minute clip of the end of the show - amazing how happy they all look. Lovey moment at the end when they all hug each other and Ed gives Wolf a quick kiss.

Lovely.
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Matt2112 on March 15, 2012, 00:10:55 am
Quote from: captainkurtz on March 14, 2012, 22:45:32 pm
I feel a stalk coming on - and I'm not talking about the erection in my underpants.


So do I.  ;)  Am neither am I.  ;D
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Presto-digitation on March 15, 2012, 20:29:58 pm
Michael who? 

(setlist spoiler)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epyVJN8xqOU&feature=share
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: captainkurtz on April 17, 2012, 23:24:29 pm
Fantastic interview with Ed - so now we know the reason for the lengthy delays and lack of news  - Ed spent most of 2008 in a bad way and his cancer returned last year. 

http://www.esquire.com/the-side/music/eddie-van-halen-interview-2012-8147775?src=soc_twtr
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Andy42g on April 18, 2012, 10:17:03 am
Great stuff.
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Presto-digitation on April 18, 2012, 21:58:43 pm
18 additional US dates.  Still no word on overseas shows. 
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Andy42g on April 20, 2012, 11:06:33 am
Quote from: Presto-digitation on April 18, 2012, 21:58:43 pm
18 additional US dates.

This is a 'world tour' in Van Halen speak.  :)  ::)
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Presto-digitation on April 20, 2012, 21:37:59 pm
Exactly.  The "world" between eastern and western coasts of the United States.  I really hope they make it overseas.
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Captain Ron on April 21, 2012, 11:58:57 am
Brings to mind the country location scenes from Team America - World Police. :D
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Presto-digitation on May 18, 2012, 04:10:20 am
On the eve of Van Halen postponing 30 recently announced US dates amidst fear that the band is dissolving, there's this:

Just got an updated on VHND from Ed's right hand man. The band is fine. Everyone is healthy and getting along fine. The tour is being rerouted to accomodate  European dates. There will be an official announcement very soon. Stay tuned!
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: captainkurtz on May 18, 2012, 06:51:50 am
Oh my god.  I don't think I can take any more ticket buying related stress.
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: captainkurtz on May 18, 2012, 08:19:37 am
Hold on a minute...it's a bit late in the day to be announcing euro dates for the summer isn't it?

Unless they're playing small venues.

*faints*
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Andy42g on May 18, 2012, 12:15:40 pm
:) Pleased I didn't bother with Rush tickets now.
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Andy42g on May 18, 2012, 12:16:09 pm
Quote from: captainkurtz on May 18, 2012, 08:19:37 am
Hold on a minute...it's a bit late in the day to be announcing euro dates for the summer isn't it?

Unless they're playing small venues.

*faints*

Arenas with a bit of luck.
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Matt2112 on May 18, 2012, 12:25:09 pm
FFS.  Having bought Toronto, Manc and London tickets and just paid for a week in Rhodes next month, this is shaping up to be my Summer of Skint.  :-\
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: The Letter R on May 18, 2012, 12:51:28 pm
Quote from: captainkurtz on May 18, 2012, 08:19:37 am
Hold on a minute...it's a bit late in the day to be announcing euro dates for the summer isn't it?

Unless they're playing small venues.

*faints*


Probably be summer 2013 mate  ;)
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Straight Shooter on May 18, 2012, 13:18:15 pm
Quote from: Andy42g on May 18, 2012, 12:16:09 pm
Arenas Scotland with a bit of luck.

Fixed..........but probably waaaaaaaay too far-fetched! I'd settle for Manchester.............. :)
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Presto-digitation on May 18, 2012, 14:15:10 pm
Quote from: captainkurtz on May 18, 2012, 08:19:37 am
Hold on a minute...it's a bit late in the day to be announcing euro dates for the summer isn't it?

Unless they're playing small venues.

*faints*


Perhaps and I'm sorry to be throwing out speculation right now, but just reporting some of the talk.  I hope it's all good news, however, and not some impending break up or health scare for Eddie.   :-\
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Presto-digitation on May 18, 2012, 14:16:17 pm
Keep checking VHND.com for details.  You never know what's up with these guys.
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: captainkurtz on May 18, 2012, 14:25:08 pm
I think the talk of in fighting is bullshit - otherwise why not scrap the tour immediately.

Pretty poor though, to announce shows, release tickets and then pull them.

I dont think they'' be over here this year, personally, but id love to be proved wrong.
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Matt2112 on May 18, 2012, 14:28:15 pm
Quote from: captainkurtz on May 18, 2012, 14:25:08 pmI dont think they'' be over here this year, personally, but id love to be proved wrong.


I find myself ambivalent, all things considered!  ;D
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Presto-digitation on May 18, 2012, 16:11:11 pm
Quote from: captainkurtz on May 18, 2012, 14:25:08 pm
I think the talk of in fighting is bullshit - otherwise why not scrap the tour immediately.

Pretty poor though, to announce shows, release tickets and then pull them.

I dont think they'' be over here this year, personally, but id love to be proved wrong.


This is true and why I think it's not in-fighting.  If things were so bad, why would they even consider adding dates?  I'm pretty sure you would just complete your obligation (to avoid costly reimbursements to promoters) and call it a day.  You certainly don't say "I hate this guy and can't wait for this to be over.....so let's add three months to the tour."   ;D

The mid-August-through-September US dates were new and had not gone on sale yet.  That was the second round of added dates set to go on sale this week.

I hope it's not EVH health issues.  Recent interviews reveal TWO additional bouts with oral cancer in the past couple years after his initial diagnosis and surgery.
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: captainkurtz on May 18, 2012, 16:26:05 pm
If it was health issues serious enough to lead them to cancel this new bout of dates, Id imagine it would be serious enough for them to cancel all of the remaining dates and let their insurance take care of it.
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: captainkurtz on May 18, 2012, 18:29:40 pm
Ed is fine. Janie will post rescheduled dates (and new shows in Europe!) shortly. Stay tuned..
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: captainkurtz on May 20, 2012, 10:30:23 am
http://vimeo.com/42480835
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Tim W. on May 22, 2012, 14:33:27 pm
This is all very interesting! I don't visit this part of the forum much (if at all - don't think I've ever posted here). I must confess that, due to living under a stone, I didn't even know that VH had reformed or that there was a new album, let alone a tour. The various reviws and comments have me itching to get home to have a listen to the album on Spotify (assuming it's there). It strangely coincides with me having a bit of a VH revival due to having recently found nice copies of three or four albums on vinyl. - I'd forgotten how amazing that band were.

On the back of that (and I've no idea how this is going to be received here because I've just dipped in at the last few pages of the thread) I've recently found and been enjoying the two Chickenfoot albums. To the extent that I've bought both of them (again on vinyl). Should I get my coat...?

...Is the new VH available on vinyl?
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Andy42g on May 22, 2012, 15:38:40 pm
Quote from: Tim W. on May 22, 2012, 14:33:27 pm
...Is the new VH available on vinyl?

Yes. Double red vinyl too :). www.vhstore.com I think is the url.
http://www.vanhalenstore.com/page/VH/PROD/RC85

QuoteI've recently found and been enjoying the two Chickenfoot albums. To the extent that I've bought both of them (again on vinyl).

Old Chickenfoot good. New Chickenfoot bad.   ;)
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Tim W. on May 22, 2012, 16:43:46 pm
Ouch! That's expensive. Plus the inevitable 'import duty'...
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Presto-digitation on May 23, 2012, 13:34:56 pm
Quote from: Tim W. on May 22, 2012, 14:33:27 pm
This is all very interesting! I don't visit this part of the forum much (if at all - don't think I've ever posted here). I must confess that, due to living under a stone, I didn't even know that VH had reformed or that there was a new album, let alone a tour. The various reviws and comments have me itching to get home to have a listen to the album on Spotify (assuming it's there). It strangely coincides with me having a bit of a VH revival due to having recently found nice copies of three or four albums on vinyl. - I'd forgotten how amazing that band were.

On the back of that (and I've no idea how this is going to be received here because I've just dipped in at the last few pages of the thread) I've recently found and been enjoying the two Chickenfoot albums. To the extent that I've bought both of them (again on vinyl). Should I get my coat...?

...Is the new VH available on vinyl?


I hope you enjoy the listen.  I find it pretty inspired.  Looking forward to you chiming back in with comments after some solid listens.  I certainly recommend a blind buy on this one.   ;)
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Presto-digitation on May 23, 2012, 13:36:16 pm
In a time when singles mean less and less, just the same the third single from the new VH album is:

(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g422/bionicman1974/ScreenShot2012-05-21at115339AM.png)
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Andy42g on May 23, 2012, 13:37:14 pm
Quote from: Tim W. on May 22, 2012, 16:43:46 pm
Ouch! That's expensive. Plus the inevitable 'import duty'...

Yeah - buy the CD. It really is a blast.
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Andy42g on May 23, 2012, 13:38:21 pm
Quote from: Presto-digitation on May 23, 2012, 13:36:16 pm
In a time when singles mean less and less, just the same the third single from the new VH album is:

(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g422/bionicman1974/ScreenShot2012-05-21at115339AM.png)

Cool. Listened to the album in the car the other evening and was rocking along to Frosty :)
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Matt2112 on May 24, 2012, 11:46:07 am
Stay Frosty is so good even my Indie Chick likes it.  Thing is, while all the time I'm prompting her to listen to this and that EVH lick, she's more interested in DLR's vocals!  She likes the character and cheeky inflections he puts into his performance, as of course I do....but...

...what about the astonishing hyper-blues...??!!  What about the bursts of shred, the touch harmonics on string bends, the legato, the perfect phrasing...that it's so much more rounded and polished and mature than the playing on (the immensely enjoyable) Ice Cream Man??

Ah well, each to their own...  ;D

(Btw, I will get to my appraisal on Ed's performance on this album, but I'm listening through the back catalogue for comparison.  As things stand, I do believe this album has his best fret-work overall).  :)
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Matt2112 on May 24, 2012, 11:48:53 am
Oh, and incidentally, you know how this thread started as a heads-up about VH flip-flops?

I've recently taken delivery of a pair for my holiday to Rhodes next month...  :D  8)
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Andy42g on May 24, 2012, 14:09:08 pm
Quote from: Matt2112 on May 24, 2012, 11:48:53 am
Oh, and incidentally, you know how this thread started as a heads-up about VH flip-flops?

Indeed. I liked that title.
;D  ;D  ;D

Quote
I've recently taken delivery of a pair for my holiday to Rhodes next month...  :D  8)

:D
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: captainkurtz on June 07, 2012, 10:17:23 am
http://www.classicrockmagazine.com/news/hagar-calls-for-van-halen-apology/

::)
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Matt2112 on June 07, 2012, 11:11:04 am
Let go of those coat-tails, Sammy.  Just let go...  :-\
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Andy42g on June 07, 2012, 12:05:20 pm
It's Mike they should apologise to if anyone.
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: JonL on June 07, 2012, 12:15:25 pm
Quote from: Andy42g on June 07, 2012, 12:05:20 pm
It's Mike they should apologise to if anyone.


Has he ever said anything since his departure?
Maybe he's keeping quiet in case there's a way back for him.
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: captainkurtz on June 07, 2012, 12:35:09 pm
Quote from: Andy42g on June 07, 2012, 12:05:20 pm
It's Mike they should apologise to if anyone.

Why?  Ed fell out with Sammy, Mike showed allegiance to Sammy, Mike out.

It would be just as easy to say that Mike was a little disloyal. 

Anyway, who cares, Wolfie is doing a sterling job and its clear without his involvement, there would be no VH....
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: captainkurtz on June 07, 2012, 12:36:00 pm
Quote from: JonL on June 07, 2012, 12:15:25 pm
Has he ever said anything since his departure?



He has said that once you piss Eddie off theres never a way back.  Unless you are Dave Lee Roth, presumably.......
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Matt2112 on June 07, 2012, 12:54:54 pm
Exactly, Hass, on both counts.

Awwww, ickle Sammy not playing with his toys for two nights in front of lots and lots of people at Madison Square Garden...awwww, diddums...  ::)
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: JonL on June 07, 2012, 13:17:18 pm
He's possibly making more money from his tequila company than VH are making on their tour.
I think he sold it, or a significant share of it for about $50m not that long ago.

He's got more money than he can count. He's clearly a good businessman, or has good advisors. He's in a successful band. He has a beautiful wife. He lives in a fabulous house on a beach somewhere.

FFS Sammy, sit back and laugh instead of bitching about Eddie.
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: captainkurtz on June 07, 2012, 13:25:08 pm
Never underestimate the roar of a crowd though. 
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Matt2112 on June 07, 2012, 17:14:42 pm
Quote from: captainkurtz on June 07, 2012, 13:25:08 pm
Never underestimate the roar of a crowd though.


Exactly my point.  I don't suppose Edward need worry about paying the bills either, but he's a bona fide legend whose influence is beyond measure.  Sammy, uumm, not so much... :D
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Andy42g on June 12, 2012, 15:07:45 pm
Quote from: captainkurtz on June 07, 2012, 12:35:09 pm
Why?  Ed fell out with Sammy, Mike showed allegiance to Sammy, Mike out.
It would be just as easy to say that Mike was a little disloyal. 

Yeah - I guess that's true. Mind you spending time with Sammy actually playing music etc would seem preferable to waiting years for Ed to sober up.

Quote
Anyway, who cares, Wolfie is doing a sterling job and its clear without his involvement, there would be no VH....

Absolutely.
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: captainkurtz on June 13, 2012, 08:40:58 am
Nice interview.

Japanese tour in November.

http://www.usatoday.com/life/music/news/story/2012-06-12/eddie-wolfgang-van-halen/55556296/1#.T9gB00C6FnE.twitter
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Andy42g on June 13, 2012, 11:14:56 am
http://www.vhnd.com/2012/06/12/van-halen-to-tour-japan-in-november-tour-to-extend-into-2013/
Here as well.
Japan eh. Europe...?
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Matt2112 on June 28, 2012, 16:33:43 pm
Pefkos Beach, Rhodes Island, Greece - June 2012 ;)

(http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z50/matt2112_album/045.jpg)


Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Andy42g on June 29, 2012, 16:53:25 pm
Van Halen in Europe.  :)
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: mickpaz2112 on June 30, 2012, 10:27:27 am
Quote from: Andy42g on June 29, 2012, 16:53:25 pm
Van Halen in Europe.  :)
CD only ;)
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: zoony on July 05, 2012, 22:11:28 pm
What's happened then, heard they'd cancelled all of their American dates.
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: captainkurtz on July 05, 2012, 22:34:33 pm
Quote from: zoony on July 05, 2012, 22:11:28 pm
What's happened then, heard they'd cancelled all of their American dates.

They're tired, bless.

Must be horrible staying in 5* hotels and getting waited on hand and foot.  ::)

Maybe Eddie needs to get back on the blow - keep his stamina up.
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: The Letter R on July 13, 2012, 12:25:40 pm
Lined up to be the halftime band at Superbowl 2013 according to latest CR mag report.......
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: captainkurtz on July 14, 2012, 09:39:04 am
DLR has issued a statement saying they havent been approached but would jump (see what I did there) at the chance.
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Presto-digitation on July 19, 2012, 20:41:36 pm
They announced 3 November dates in Japan.
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Andy42g on July 20, 2012, 17:08:30 pm
Quote from: captainkurtz on July 05, 2012, 22:34:33 pm
They're tired, bless.

Must be horrible staying in 5* hotels and getting waited on hand and foot.  ::)

Maybe Eddie needs to get back on the blow - keep his stamina up.

::) See also NEP on touring. When you get to their age you have to pace yourself.  :)
The extra string of dates were added before they had a chance to think about it and they decided a break would be better before getting back on the road again, so they canned the US dates before any tickets went on sale. Back to it in November and next year.
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Andy42g on August 04, 2012, 12:44:21 pm
http://www.vhnd.com/2012/08/03/1982-the-year-in-van-halen-history/
Diver Down. IMHO not their finest moments, but it does have some good bits. Would have been fab to see them on that tour. They did announce dates in the UK, and we trapsed all the way the way over to Manchester Apollo (a serious undertaking back then!) the day the tickets went on sale only to find out they'd cancelled.
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Andy42g on August 10, 2012, 12:09:04 pm
Japanese TV special up on YouTube
http://www.vhnd.com/2012/08/08/watch-the-van-halen-song-to-soul-japan-tv-special/
Lots of Japanese but some good new interviews.
Rather big on the song "Jump"....
EDIT: Actually pretty crap.  :P
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Andy42g on August 10, 2012, 13:02:00 pm
This is better. As is and Light up the Sky from soundcheck without Dave, but with decent sound. Great work by Eddie and Wolfgang.
http://www.vhnd.com/2012/07/06/video-with-soundboard-audio-as-is-light-up-the-sky-performed-during-soundcheck/
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Andy42g on August 10, 2012, 20:13:09 pm
Whole show multicam edit.
http://www.vhnd.com/2012/08/10/van-halen-2012-pittsburgh-concert-video/
Might have to find a DVD version of this.
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: captainkurtz on August 30, 2012, 09:43:12 am
"Eddie Van Halen underwent an emergency surgery for a severe bout of Diverticulitis. No further surgeries are needed and a full recovery is expected within 4 - 6 months.

Van Halen's scheduled November 2012 tour of Japan is currently being rescheduled and the band looks forward to seeing and playing for their fans in 2013."


:-\
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Andy42g on August 30, 2012, 10:11:19 am
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diverticulitis

Looks rather serious if it gets to emergency surgery.
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Andy42g on September 25, 2012, 23:34:14 pm
(http://www.vhnd.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/davetattoo.jpeg)
Tattoo, tattoo.
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Matt2112 on February 08, 2013, 00:12:15 am
Some news!  ;D

Upcoming release: The Studio Albums 1978-1984 (http://www.vanhalenstore.com/page/VH/CDREG/CDBOX)
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Presto-digitation on February 08, 2013, 01:58:44 am
Snore.  Not much new in that, is there?  Oh and A Different Kind Of Truth was released one year ago now (this very day in the USA).
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Dixkot on February 10, 2013, 19:12:42 pm
Quote from: Matt2112 on February 08, 2013, 00:12:15 am
Some news!  ;D

Upcoming release: The Studio Albums 1978-1984 (http://www.vanhalenstore.com/page/VH/CDREG/CDBOX)


The wrong edition though....
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: JonL on February 10, 2013, 20:39:30 pm
So do we think the wheels have fallen off quietly again? I assume Wolfie is still on the road with Temonti.
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: captainkurtz on February 10, 2013, 22:02:18 pm
I don't think so......I think Ed probably wants some extra time off - I think his condition was pretty serious.  Theres footage of him from the recent NAMM thing in california and he looks in good spirits and healthy and happy.

DLR recently uploaded a pictures of himself with the caption 'Start spreading the news...'

I expect them to return back to live action later in the year.
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Matt2112 on February 12, 2013, 23:27:00 pm
Hmmmm...this Rolling Stone interview with DLR (http://www.vhnd.com/2013/02/12/david-lee-roth-vents-about-van-halens-future-new-rolling-stone-interview/) doesn't bode well for the future of the band - again.  Ah well.  :(
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Presto-digitation on February 13, 2013, 00:57:59 am
Quote from: JonL on February 10, 2013, 20:39:30 pm
So do we think the wheels have fallen off quietly again? I assume Wolfie is still on the road with Temonti.


No, I don't think this is the case at all.
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Andrew_Haldane on February 17, 2013, 03:01:01 am
More talk from Dave mostly negative.

http://www.blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=186351
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Presto-digitation on February 18, 2013, 14:23:19 pm
Well they'd better get past it, as they have a show in Australia in April.  (This is really just a reiteration of the previous interview).
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: captainkurtz on February 18, 2013, 14:33:34 pm
VERY surprised to read Roth speaking so highly of Michael Anthony.  Perhaps he could return.  Stranger things have happened.

I didn't realize the Japan shows had been rescheduled.

Wish they'd get their arses to the UK.  Listened to ADKOT again this morning for the first time in a long time - its still great.
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: BaldiePete on February 21, 2013, 22:30:47 pm
Found on YouTube, Van Halen supporting Black Sabbath at Hammersmith Odeon in 1978. Audio only, soundboard. Rocks like a BASTARD  ;D

http://youtu.be/fuUk2CuUCHA

01. On Fire
02. I'm The One
03. Bass Solo
04. Runnin' With The Devil
05. Atomic Punk
06. Little Dreamer
07. Feel Your Love Tonight
08. Ain't Talkin' 'Bout Love
09. Eruption
10. You Really Got Me
11. D.O.A.
12.Bottoms Up!

Old Van Halen good ...
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: captainkurtz on February 21, 2013, 22:32:20 pm
That was weeded (God, remember weeds?) years ago here.  It is amazing.
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: JonL on February 22, 2013, 13:26:46 pm
Quote from: BaldiePete on February 21, 2013, 22:30:47 pm
Found on YouTube, Van Halen supporting Black Sabbath at Hammersmith Odeon in 1978. Audio only, soundboard. Rocks like a BASTARD  ;D

http://youtu.be/fuUk2CuUCHA

01. On Fire
02. I'm The One
03. Bass Solo
04. Runnin' With The Devil
05. Atomic Punk
06. Little Dreamer
07. Feel Your Love Tonight
08. Ain't Talkin' 'Bout Love
09. Eruption
10. You Really Got Me
11. D.O.A.
12.Bottoms Up!

Old Van Halen good ...


Ah, I've got that one. One of the few ROIOs I still have. A great set.
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Presto-digitation on March 04, 2013, 19:41:35 pm
Van Halen has added a July 20 date in Wisconsin.  Not sure if more will start trickling out soon or if it's just a series of one-offs.
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: captainkurtz on March 04, 2013, 21:54:55 pm
So..........a mere week after DLR extols the virues of broadening their geographical touring horizons, mentioning the Hyde Parks, Coachella's and Lollapallozas of this world, they announce a date in fecking wisconsin, supported by Ratt & Dokken.  :o

Who the feck is managing this band and where is the queue to give them a bitch slap.

Get your lazy fecking arses to the rest of the world, you c***s.
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Matt2112 on March 04, 2013, 23:08:51 pm
New pic just posted on EVH's facebook page of him apparently at work in the studio.

Absolutely no idea what to make of that whatsoever.  :-\
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: captainkurtz on March 05, 2013, 08:54:03 am
He's always in the studio....it's about 3 seconds walk from his house.
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Matt2112 on March 05, 2013, 09:51:49 am
There is that!  Though the guy in there with him is LL Cool J.  Next door neighbour?  ;D
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Pricey on March 05, 2013, 13:18:09 pm
Quote from: Matt2112 on March 05, 2013, 09:51:49 am
There is that!  Though the guy in there with him is LL Cool J.  Next door neighbour?  ;D
what sort of parent christens a child LL Cool J ? .... they`ll just get picked on
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Matt2112 on March 05, 2013, 13:22:35 pm
Quote from: Pricey on March 05, 2013, 13:18:09 pm
what sort of parent christens a child LL Cool J ?


LL Cool S...?
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: captainkurtz on March 05, 2013, 15:04:07 pm
Loved the news story last year of him breaking a burglars face with his fist who he caught in his house in the middle of the night.  Thats pretty cool.  I think his explanation was alonng the lines of 'me kids was upstairs, aint no mofo breakin' into my crib'

Thats double cool, dude.
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: JonL on March 05, 2013, 16:12:48 pm
Quote from: Pricey on March 05, 2013, 13:18:09 pm
what sort of parent christens a child LL Cool J ? .... they`ll just get picked on


His name is James.

His full (stage) name is Ladies Love Cool James. I kid you not.
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: captainkurtz on March 05, 2013, 17:40:41 pm
Told you he was a dude.
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Matt2112 on March 05, 2013, 18:09:01 pm
That makes me LL Hot M.  ::)  ;)  ;D
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Andrew_Haldane on March 06, 2013, 17:19:52 pm
New DR interview

http://www.blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=187038
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: captainkurtz on March 06, 2013, 17:43:55 pm
He needs his hair cut.
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: JonL on March 06, 2013, 18:40:24 pm
Quote from: captainkurtz on March 05, 2013, 17:40:41 pm
Told you he was a dude.


Mama Said Knock You Out is a monster track.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vimZj8HW0Kg
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: captainkurtz on March 06, 2013, 20:56:07 pm
Agreed. Tune.
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Matt2112 on March 06, 2013, 21:54:01 pm
Aye, it ain't bad that one.
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Matt2112 on March 07, 2013, 23:30:33 pm
Ultimate Classic Rock: "Van Halen Working On New Songs" (http://ultimateclassicrock.com/van-halen-working-on-new-songs/)

Exciting..?
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Presto-digitation on March 08, 2013, 00:48:31 am
To me it is, if indeed it's true.
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Matt2112 on March 08, 2013, 11:34:15 am
Quote from: Presto-digitation on March 08, 2013, 00:48:31 am
To me it is, if indeed it's true.


Quite, but you never can tell with this band!  :)

Gave ADKoT a spin the other night for the first time in ages - lost none of its lustre, it's just sheer f#cking brilliance.

Must get round to that review I was gonna do...  ::)
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: captainkurtz on March 08, 2013, 12:03:07 pm
I'd be more excited if I knew they were going to tour here.

Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: pdw1 on March 08, 2013, 13:27:07 pm
Quote from: captainkurtz on March 08, 2013, 12:03:07 pm
I'd be more excited if I knew they were going to tour here.

If that happens I expect this thread to be a huge sticky mess  :-X
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Presto-digitation on March 11, 2013, 22:15:10 pm
Quote from: Matt2112 on March 08, 2013, 11:34:15 am
Quite, but you never can tell with this band!  :)

Gave ADKoT a spin the other night for the first time in ages - lost none of its lustre, it's just sheer f#cking brilliance.

Must get round to that review I was gonna do...  ::)


Agree.  I gave it a mid-summer whirl after a few months off last year and it was just a beast.  Felt like I was listening to it again for the first time.
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Dave64K on March 11, 2013, 22:35:32 pm
http://ultimateclassicrock.com/van-halen-europe-concerts-2013/ (http://ultimateclassicrock.com/van-halen-europe-concerts-2013/)

Looks like DLR saying Eurooean dates before the end of 2013
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: captainkurtz on March 11, 2013, 22:59:11 pm
Believe it when I see it.
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Presto-digitation on March 12, 2013, 16:17:06 pm
Quote from: captainkurtz on March 11, 2013, 22:59:11 pm
Believe it when I see it.


Yes, this is the proper way to look at anything Van Halen.   ;D
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: JonL on March 12, 2013, 16:32:11 pm
Quote from: Dave64K on March 11, 2013, 22:35:32 pm
http://ultimateclassicrock.com/van-halen-europe-concerts-2013/ (http://ultimateclassicrock.com/van-halen-europe-concerts-2013/)

Looks like DLR saying Eurooean dates before the end of 2013


That'll be Dave running his mouth off again.
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: captainkurtz on March 12, 2013, 17:24:06 pm
Wonder what types of venues they'd play in the Uk?

I doubt they'd even fill in 1 night at the 02 in London.
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: The Letter R on March 13, 2013, 09:18:12 am
Brixton would be good 8)
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Thenop on March 13, 2013, 09:22:43 am
The Van Halen's manager has already denied any dates being in the works.
source Blabbermouth:
VAN HALEN's Manager Knows Nothing About A European tour - Mar. 12, 2013
According to Billboard.com, Irving Azoff, manager for VAN HALEN founders Alex and Eddie Van Halen and bassist Wolfgang Van Halen, has dismissed as incorrect reports that the band will tour Europe beginning late this year.

During an appearance yesterday morning (Monday, March 11) on "The Opie & Anthony Show", Roth said that VAN HALEN was "going to be playing Europe -- probably 50 or 60 shows starting at the end of this year."

Azoff begs to differ. "All the announced dates, which include the date in Australia, the dates in Japan and a date in Wisconsin, are confirmed and on sale and those are real," Azoff tells Billboard.com exclusively. "I manage the Van Halens, and I know nothing about any European tour."
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: The Letter R on March 13, 2013, 09:26:04 am
Yeah - just read that too - oh well..............
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: captainkurtz on March 13, 2013, 09:51:26 am
Seems odd for Roth to say such things so soon after criticising the lack of any firm future touring/writing plans.

Odd also to even mention such things without them being officially confirmed.  Its just not the VH way.
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Matt2112 on March 13, 2013, 10:47:44 am
Quote from: JonL on March 12, 2013, 16:32:11 pm
That'll be Dave running his mouth off again.


Looks like you're spot on: VH manager shoots down Euro tour rumours (VHND.com) (http://www.vhnd.com/2013/03/12/van-halen-manager-irving-azoff-shoots-down-rumors/)

Quote"All the announced dates, which include the date in Australia, the dates in Japan and a date in Wisconsin, are confirmed and on sale and those are real," Azoff tells Billboard exclusively. "I manage the Van Halens, and I know nothing about any European tour."


:(

Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: captainkurtz on March 13, 2013, 11:07:47 am
My marriage is safe for the time being, then.
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Slim on March 13, 2013, 13:27:36 pm
Quote from: JonL on March 05, 2013, 16:12:48 pm
His name is James.

His full (stage) name is Ladies Love Cool James. I kid you not.


Ah, well I can relate to that.
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Matt2112 on April 05, 2013, 01:17:25 am
90-second teaser of Edward's collaboration with LL Cool J. (http://www.vhnd.com/2013/03/22/audio-sample-of-ll-cool-j-song-featuring-eddie-van-halen/)

You just want LL to stop rapping.  ::)  We'll have to wait for the whole song to hear the solo, which the rapper has tweeted is a "masterpiece".  No reason to doubt it. :)
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Matt2112 on April 12, 2013, 12:38:08 pm
New EVH series guitars out this month at under 500 quid.  It's quite simple - I'm getting one:  :o  :o  :o

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-RUYNXsienaY/UQL1PdufpEI/AAAAAAAAAlo/yCgTqzL1dUo/s1600/evh_stripes.jpg)
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Andrew_Haldane on April 12, 2013, 13:03:42 pm
Quote from: Matt2112 on April 12, 2013, 12:38:08 pm
New EVH series guitars out this month at under 500 quid.  It's quite simple - I'm getting one:  :o  :o  :o

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-RUYNXsienaY/UQL1PdufpEI/AAAAAAAAAlo/yCgTqzL1dUo/s1600/evh_stripes.jpg)


Enjoy.....why bother with anything but the red one though?!  :-\ ???
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Matt2112 on April 12, 2013, 13:06:12 pm
Quote from: Bisto on April 12, 2013, 13:03:42 pm
Enjoy.....why bother with anything but the red one though?!  :-\ ???


It might raise audience expectations too high...  ::)  ;)
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Andrew_Haldane on April 12, 2013, 13:11:50 pm
Quote from: Matt2112 on April 12, 2013, 13:06:12 pm
It might raise audience expectations too high...  ::)  ;)


you're gonna be using it on stage?!!!!  :o

....er....wow!  :-[  ;)
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Matt2112 on April 12, 2013, 15:29:14 pm
Quote from: Bisto on April 12, 2013, 13:11:50 pm
you're gonna be using it on stage?!!!!  :o

....er....wow!  :-[  ;)


;D

On stage, yes, from time to time.  But mostly in the corner of pubs.  ::)  ;)
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: JonL on April 12, 2013, 16:03:53 pm
My mate bought an Ernie Ball (?) EVH signature guitar many years ago. I was a lovely piece of kit.
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Andrew_Haldane on April 12, 2013, 16:17:44 pm
Quote from: Matt2112 on April 12, 2013, 15:29:14 pm
;D

On stage, yes, from time to time.  But mostly in the corner of pubs.  ::)  ;)


ahbut do you incorporate a Marty McFly type geetargasm into your solo?
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Matt2112 on April 17, 2013, 10:51:09 am
Quote from: Bisto on April 12, 2013, 16:17:44 pm
ahbut do you incorporate a Marty McFly type geetargasm into your solo?


Nah - a smug pout suffices.  :)
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Matt2112 on May 01, 2013, 23:50:40 pm
The two LL Cool J tracks that feature EVH can be heard in full here. (http://www.evhgear.com/news/2013/05/hear-eddie-van-halen-on-ll-cool-js-new-album/)

Frankly, nothing of what he plays here touches anything on ADKoT - or any of his previously released material come to that.  Sounds like a couple of random EVH jam snippets from the cutting room floor, to be honest.  :-\  That said, the songs are shite, which kind of offsets any disappointment.
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Matt2112 on June 22, 2013, 12:51:46 pm
Stunning show at the Tokyo Dome last night (http://www.vhnd.com/2013/06/21/van-halen-rocks-the-tokyo-dome-videos-photos-setlist/), apparently. :)
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: captainkurtz on June 22, 2013, 13:21:00 pm
When oh when are these feckers going to bless us with a visit.
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Matt2112 on August 13, 2013, 15:07:12 pm
Sammy seems to be cooling off (http://www.classicrockmagazine.com/news/sammy-hagar-let-van-halen-finish-their-own-way/) regarding the VH brothers:

QuoteBut he admits he'd like to settle his differences with Eddie and Alex Van Halen. "I would love to be friends with those guys. Michael Anthony is one of my dearest friends, and I don't see why Ed and Al shouldn't be that, someday, in our lives. But until then, it's all fine."


Source: Classic Rock Magazine.
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: JonL on August 13, 2013, 15:42:25 pm
Quote from: Matt2112 on August 13, 2013, 15:07:12 pm
Sammy seems to be cooling off (http://www.classicrockmagazine.com/news/sammy-hagar-let-van-halen-finish-their-own-way/) regarding the VH brothers:

Source: Classic Rock Magazine.


He knows that he has nothing to prove to anyone, musically, personally or financially. Why hold grudges? None of them are getting any younger.
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Matt2112 on August 13, 2013, 15:54:00 pm
Indeed so, Jon. :)
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: captainkurtz on August 13, 2013, 17:22:07 pm
Quote from: Matt2112 on August 13, 2013, 15:07:12 pm
Sammy seems to be cooling off (http://www.classicrockmagazine.com/news/sammy-hagar-let-van-halen-finish-their-own-way/) regarding the VH brothers:

Source: Classic Rock Magazine.

Or, he has to keep mentioning Van Halen in order to get any column inches.  Yawn!
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Andrew_Haldane on August 13, 2013, 17:46:55 pm
Quote from: captainkurtz on August 13, 2013, 17:22:07 pm
Or, he has to keep mentioning Van Halen in order to get any column inches.  Yawn!


This  ::)
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Matt2112 on August 14, 2013, 18:00:41 pm
Quote from: captainkurtz on August 13, 2013, 17:22:07 pm
Or, he has to keep mentioning Van Halen in order to get any column inches.  Yawn!


Very possibly - hadn't thought of that.  In the same article he has a little moan about having everything except respect from certain folk.  Hmmm...  :)
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: captainkurtz on August 14, 2013, 19:24:43 pm
Quote from: Matt2112 on August 14, 2013, 18:00:41 pm
Very possibly - hadn't thought of that.  In the same article he has a little moan about having everything except respect from certain folk.  Hmmm...  :)

Diddums!  ::)

He wants to stop wearing flip flops on stage for a start!  ::)
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: JonL on August 15, 2013, 09:05:02 am
Quote from: captainkurtz on August 14, 2013, 19:24:43 pm
Diddums!  ::)

He wants to stop wearing flip flops on stage for a start!  ::)


;D

Wish I lived a life that allowed me to wear flip flops all day.
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Slim on August 15, 2013, 20:30:18 pm
I do wear flip flops all day. Working from home helps, of course. Must admit I hadn't thought to ask permission from 'er indoors.
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Matt2112 on August 15, 2013, 21:11:55 pm
Oh, go on, then....

(http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z50/matt2112_album/9d171284-bd01-4ee1-bc18-a3f6884aadb6_zpsdd3e5b4d.jpg) (http://s188.photobucket.com/user/matt2112_album/media/9d171284-bd01-4ee1-bc18-a3f6884aadb6_zpsdd3e5b4d.jpg.html)

Stalis, Crete, August 2013
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Andy42g on October 03, 2013, 11:46:18 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMKqK2PYPwU#t=297
New US festival footage. Why on earth isn;lt there a proper DVD of the whole of this?
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: captainkurtz on October 03, 2013, 12:21:50 pm
Because they can't be arsed.
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: JonL on October 03, 2013, 16:35:10 pm
Because Roth sounds awful?
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Matt2112 on October 07, 2013, 18:04:38 pm
Quote from: JonL on October 03, 2013, 16:35:10 pm
Because Roth sounds awful?


Possibly - but Edward has never been better, which more than makes up for it.  :)
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: captainkurtz on October 07, 2013, 18:42:37 pm
He was better in 1981.
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Andy42g on October 09, 2013, 14:03:53 pm
Quote from: captainkurtz on October 03, 2013, 12:21:50 pm
Because they can't be arsed.

I've got a DVD of the whole of this - reasonable-ish quality of the pro shot footage.
They were a bit of a mess that evening it has to be said.
Must have been a hell of an experience being there though.
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: captainkurtz on October 09, 2013, 14:27:24 pm
By their own admission, they were all pissed.
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Matt2112 on October 09, 2013, 16:38:03 pm
Quote from: captainkurtz on October 07, 2013, 18:42:37 pm
He was better in 1981.


Old Ed good...  ::) ;)
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Presto-digitation on October 09, 2013, 17:32:24 pm
Quote from: captainkurtz on October 07, 2013, 18:42:37 pm
He was better in 1981.


Feck, mate...who wasn't?   ;D ;)
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Andy42g on October 10, 2013, 10:29:29 am
Quote from: captainkurtz on October 09, 2013, 14:27:24 pm
By their own admission, they were all pissed.

With good reason: "The band then earned a spot in the Guinness Book of World Records for the highest-paid single appearance of a band: $1.5 million for a 90-minute set at the 1983 US Festival"  :)

WIKI:
Van Halen received an upfront sum of $1 million to headline the 1983 US Festival. It was then upped to $1.5 million after it was discovered that David Bowie was to be paid $1 million. Van Halen had a clause in their contract that they would be paid more than any other act performing at the festival. In contrast, The Clash refused to play unless some donations were made to charities or other such noble causes by Wozniak and some of the other major bands. Before the Clash began their set, they made angry comments about the barrio conditions in LA. After The Clash performed, the DJ began speaking right away and Clash guitarist Mick Jones attacked the DJ, believing he was trying to prevent an encore.
This and The Clash's ironic criticism of the festival in the press conferences and in interviews prior to the event caused an argument backstage between Van Halen frontman David Lee Roth and The Clash singer Joe Strummer. This may have also been started by a comment guitarist Eddie Van Halen made in Rolling Stone magazine one month prior regarding the punk movement ("...that's like what I played in my garage when I was a kid, man."). A clearly intoxicated Roth compounded this rivalry by insulting The Clash on stage early during Van Halen's headlining set with his comment, "I wanna take this time to say that this is real whiskey here... the only people who put iced tea in Jack Daniel's bottles is The Clash, baby!" This was Roth's only mention of The Clash on stage that night.[citation needed].
"It was the day new wave died and rock n' roll took over"[this quote needs a citation] - Vince Neil, regarding the overwhelming attendance on Sunday, "Heavy Metal Day", at the '83 US Festival. It set the single-day concert attendance record for the US with an estimated 375,000 people.[citation needed] Showtime recorded the event and aired a 90-minute special for each day of the festival.


Rock and roll  8)
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: captainkurtz on October 10, 2013, 10:44:15 am
The Clash were reportedly furious about VH's fee compared to their own but couldn't raise any objections lest their punk credentials be questioned.  I think that was their rationale behind the altruistic donations (or at least encouraging the organisers to donate - not sure it actually came from their fee).
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Andy42g on October 10, 2013, 23:29:26 pm
Watching the DVD - pissed up or not: fantastic show.
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Andy42g on October 11, 2013, 14:31:44 pm
While I was at it watched a chunk of the Largo show which is a better performance but marginally worse quality video.
Best one I have though is the Montreal Forum 1984 show. Audience filmed but boy they were at the top of their game for this. Stunning stage set too and DLR getting a radio mic (unlike in 83) enables him to do his thing even more flamboyantly. SUCH a shame they didn't bring this show to Europe's arenas.
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Andy42g on December 02, 2013, 17:31:59 pm
Forward movement again from VH camp?
http://www.vhnd.com/2013/12/01/new-van-halen-music-and-tour-in-2015/
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: captainkurtz on December 02, 2013, 17:50:17 pm
Not really.

Forget the record...just tour Europe
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Presto-digitation on December 02, 2013, 23:00:37 pm
Live shows fade with memory...(and Roth pretty much sucks live anyhow).  Give me a new record any day.  I realize that's easy to say when they play here and not there, but you got more with the latest album than you missed with the tour.  Believe that.
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: captainkurtz on December 02, 2013, 23:04:08 pm
Perhaps you're right - that lightning in the bottle magic they had 78-84 isn't going to get recreated in 2015....

Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Andrew_Haldane on December 03, 2013, 06:03:08 am
Would definitely go and see EVH if he did a G3 tour.
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: captainkurtz on December 03, 2013, 08:19:19 am
I don't think he can be arsed.

He seems in a good place at the minute....I guess this is more important than selfishly wishing for tours and records...
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Matt2112 on December 04, 2013, 11:54:43 am
I don't think Edward is into solo projects/appearances tbh, plus the G3 shows are probably a bit too "small" for him anyway.  I'd love to see Guthrie Govan do that tour, personally - the format suits him down to the ground and he's one of the best in the world at the moment.  And no more Satch!  Past his sell by date for me.
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Andy42g on December 04, 2013, 12:58:50 pm
Quote from: Presto-digitation on December 02, 2013, 23:00:37 pm
Live shows fade with memory...(and Roth pretty much sucks live anyhow).  Give me a new record any day.  I realize that's easy to say when they play here and not there, but you got more with the latest album than you missed with the tour.  Believe that.

Yeah. That record really is a corker.
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Andrew_Haldane on December 04, 2013, 13:22:35 pm
I think its overrated but it could have been a lot worse than it turned out.
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: JonL on December 04, 2013, 15:42:01 pm
Quote from: Matt2112 on December 04, 2013, 11:54:43 am
I'd love to see Guthrie Govan do that tour, personally - the format suits him down to the ground and he's one of the best in the world at the moment.


I had no idea who he was until I saw Steven Wilson. My God he can play a bit.
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Andy42g on December 04, 2013, 15:59:33 pm
Quote from: Bisto on December 04, 2013, 13:22:35 pm
I think its overrated but it could have been a lot worse than it turned out.

I think it's excellent and yes it could have been a whole lot worse.  :)
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: pdw1 on December 04, 2013, 16:12:46 pm
Quote from: JonL on December 04, 2013, 15:42:01 pm
I had no idea who he was until I saw Steven Wilson. My God he can play a bit.

His first gig (I think) was with Asia. You can here him on Aura, Live in America (includes his solo piece Bad asteroid) and Silent Nation and the GPS album.
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Presto-digitation on December 04, 2013, 19:47:58 pm
Quote from: Andy42g on December 04, 2013, 15:59:33 pm
I think it's excellent and yes it could have been a whole lot worse.  :)


Maybe it was a situation of diminished expectations given the ghastly VH3 and the spotty Balance -- by 2012 arguably 21 years since their last good album --  but yes, it surely could have been far worse.  I wasn't blown away by Tattoo, so I wondered.  I liked it, but it wasn't organ-engorging stuff either.  The rest of the record had that impact on me, however.  From the opening of She's The Woman onward it was mostly a smile-inducing experience for this fan.
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Presto-digitation on December 04, 2013, 19:51:09 pm
They should have released Big River as the first single, whatever a rock single is worth in this day.  I think that cut would have made a more purposeful and pointed statement....(not to mention been more reflective of the quality of the album).
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: captainkurtz on December 04, 2013, 19:56:08 pm
It's a brilliant record, but probably my least favourite of the Roth era.  That's probably less to do with song quality than all the other Roth records being released when the band were genuinely one of the most exciting bands on the planet and pretty much the soundtrack to my adolescence - they're in my DNA, those songs.
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Andrew_Haldane on December 04, 2013, 22:29:49 pm
Quote from: captainkurtz on December 04, 2013, 19:56:08 pm
It's a brilliant record, but probably my least favourite of the Roth era.  That's probably less to do with song quality than all the other Roth records being released when the band were genuinely one of the most exciting bands on the planet and pretty much the soundtrack to my adolescence - they're in my DNA, those songs.


And thats why (I feel) its overrated. ...same thing with Rush* and Metallica and Trouble's come back albums. Just my opinion and no upset meant, but (it seems to me) theres a lot of emotionally coloured subjectivity operating at a very deep level and many folks appear to be unable or unwilling to judge the individual creation in the context of the here and now and on the basis of its actual artistic merit. Im not setting myself up as an arbiter, its just what we generally tend to do when we are emotionally connected in that way, please feel free to disagree (wouldn't have it any other way :-)  ) I'm sure I'm as guilty of this as anyone else.

* not so much one individual comeback album with Rush, more a sense of a succession of (sometimes) interesting but flawed and very flawed albums (to me at least)
Peace
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Matt2112 on December 05, 2013, 11:28:34 am
Quote from: Bisto on December 04, 2013, 22:29:49 pmtheres a lot of emotionally coloured subjectivity operating at a very deep level and many folks appear to be unable or unwilling to judge the individual creation in the context of the here and now and on the basis of its actual artistic merit. Im not setting myself up as an arbiter, its just what we generally tend to do when we are emotionally connected in that way, please feel free to disagree (wouldn't have it any other way :-)  )


Disagree I must.  :)  I don't quite have the same retrospective nostalgia as others here might have for the early DLR-era stuff, as it was the synth fanfare of Jump that heralded my interest in VH.  Hence, it was more the Hagar era that I remember most fondly from the 80s halcyon days and my favourite VH songs tend to be from that time.

So my adoration of the band kind of developed the wrong way round, you could say - I investigated the early stuff belatedly and the unpolished rawness took my tender ears some getting used to, to be honest.  Of course, as I've developed my own guitar playing I've come to realise just how stunningly innovative and naturally gifted Edward was, and is.  As a result, my love of the early albums gradully became on a par with the later output.

Which brings us to ADKoT.  On the one hand there was the excitement of it being the first release in pretty much a generation.  On the other, caution and anxiety given the travesty of VHIII still hanging around like a pungent whiff (and the relationship history between the leading men).  Of course you want it to be good - just like any other record, really.  But I think generally the expectations were measured and realistic.  Nonetheless, they released a delightul, duffer-free album of 13 songs, which ranged from pretty good to utterly magnificent.  And all blessed with - I'd argue - Edward's most consistently aesthetically brilliant, most melodically exciting and technically most polished playing to date.

So - my point (finally!) is that, amongst the fans on this thread, for ADKoT there was/is a remarkable uniformity of opinion no matter what the background and history of each person's "experience" of VH over the years may have been.  So I'd hesitate to claim that the emotional stake - unique to each person - folk understandably have in the band has necessarily diminished any objectivity.  I mean, come on - even The Guardian gave it a glowing four-star review!!   :o  That must count for something... ;)
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: captainkurtz on December 05, 2013, 11:55:14 am
Wow.  Great post, Matt. 
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Andrew_Haldane on December 05, 2013, 12:13:38 pm
Quote from: captainkurtz on December 05, 2013, 11:55:14 am
Wow.  Great post, Matt.


Conveniently for you. (?)  ;) just kidding Hass. Yes it was a very good post. I'd still contend that, in general, there is a lot of subconscious and conscious filtering going on.
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: captainkurtz on December 05, 2013, 12:20:26 pm
Not for me.  I love all the songs.

Its just that new releases don't mean as much to me now as they did when I was growing up.  I'd listen to records over and over and over again, whilst pouring over artwork, credits, etc.

The music of my youth - I know it intimately and still listen to it regularly.  Even my very favourite new releases do not get alot of attention after the first few months...
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Matt2112 on December 05, 2013, 12:48:41 pm
Quote from: captainkurtz on December 05, 2013, 11:55:14 am
Wow.  Great post, Matt.


Your tenner is in the post.  ;D
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Matt2112 on December 05, 2013, 12:54:06 pm
Quote from: Bisto on December 05, 2013, 12:13:38 pmI'd still contend that, in general, there is a lot of subconscious and conscious filtering going on.


Oh, in general, undoubtedly.  For me personally there's immeasurably precious memories allied to the music of the glorious 80s, for example. ;)
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Andy42g on December 05, 2013, 13:32:08 pm
Quote from: Bisto on December 04, 2013, 22:29:49 pm
And thats why (I feel) its overrated. ...same thing with Rush* and Metallica and Trouble's come back albums. Just my opinion and no upset meant, but (it seems to me) theres a lot of emotionally coloured subjectivity operating at a very deep level and many folks appear to be unable or unwilling to judge the individual creation in the context of the here and now and on the basis of its actual artistic merit.

Hmm - this fan really did not know what to expect and was really rather concerned that it would be a travesty and not worthy of the Van Halen name. However I really did just like it - and it's still a pleasure to listen to now a couple of years on. There is some real magnificence on it and given it's consistency and filler- free nature I think one of the best albums they've ever produced. As Matt says Edward on this is bloody awesome - and really right to the fore with his guitar and sound. Dave's a bit ropey but then, hey, what do we expect; Alex is is usual rock solid bombastic Bonham-a-like self and Wolfie is a bit of a revelation all of a sudden on the bass. A great band album - and a really great Eddie album.

Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Andy42g on December 05, 2013, 14:38:47 pm
Quote from: Bisto on December 05, 2013, 12:13:38 pm
I'd still contend that, in general, there is a lot of subconscious and conscious filtering going on.

As a fan though if it's a shit album you'll be double disappointed? I've not really liked Rush's last two, but oddly the VT remix I love. Not sure my "fan filter" works any more.  I just like what i like.
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Andrew_Haldane on December 05, 2013, 17:48:57 pm
Quote from: Andy42g on December 05, 2013, 14:38:47 pm
As a fan though if it's a shit album you'll be double disappointed? I've not really liked Rush's last two, but oddly the VT remix I love. Not sure my "fan filter" works any more.  I just like what i like.


I like the VT remix; although there are a few annoying little quirks that werent there before, I think its a big improvement. I don't want to go over the whole ORGNRG thing here again, we all know where we stand by now surely (?) Maybe it comes down to how we identify ourselves as fans, individually?  I can see this isn't going anywhere. :-X  :)
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Andy42g on December 06, 2013, 11:19:53 am
Quote from: Bisto on December 05, 2013, 17:48:57 pm
I like the VT remix; although there are a few annoying little quirks that werent there before, I think its a big improvement. I don't want to go over the whole ORGNRG thing here again, we all know where we stand by now surely (?) Maybe it comes down to how we identify ourselves as fans, individually?  I can see this isn't going anywhere. :-X  :)

It's subjective opinion. It doesn't really need to go anywhere.  :)
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Presto-digitation on December 07, 2013, 17:16:09 pm
Quote from: captainkurtz on December 05, 2013, 12:20:26 pm
Not for me.  I love all the songs.

Its just that new releases don't mean as much to me now as they did when I was growing up.  I'd listen to records over and over and over again, whilst pouring over artwork, credits, etc.

The music of my youth - I know it intimately and still listen to it regularly.  Even my very favourite new releases do not get alot of attention after the first few months...


There's truth to this for sure.
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Matt2112 on December 11, 2013, 22:42:37 pm
Edward visits music school, donates equipment. (http://www.vhnd.com/2013/12/09/eddie-van-halen-surprise-visit-music-school/)  :)
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Andy42g on December 12, 2013, 16:12:12 pm
Quote from: Matt2112 on December 11, 2013, 22:42:37 pm
Edward visits music school, donates equipment. (http://www.vhnd.com/2013/12/09/eddie-van-halen-surprise-visit-music-school/)  :)

His donating songs to a VH album would be much better.   :)
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Andy42g on December 16, 2013, 18:11:10 pm
http://www.vhnd.com/2013/12/14/david-lee-roths-new-commentary-for-the-classic-dave-tv-special/
Ace new DLR commentary on the Dave TV vids.
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Dave64K on January 23, 2014, 22:07:03 pm
Just found this on You Tube.....apologies if posted before

Nice to reflect 36 years on!

http://youtu.be/fuUk2CuUCHA (http://youtu.be/fuUk2CuUCHA)
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Andy42g on January 24, 2014, 12:32:45 pm
Quote from: Dave64K on January 23, 2014, 22:07:03 pm
Just found this on You Tube.....apologies if posted before

Nice to reflect 36 years on!

http://youtu.be/fuUk2CuUCHA (http://youtu.be/fuUk2CuUCHA)

Ace. There were a few of these shows (Sabbath support slots) that came out - Manchester was another one IIRC.
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: The Letter R on January 24, 2014, 14:01:21 pm
Quote from: Dave64K on January 23, 2014, 22:07:03 pm
Just found this on You Tube.....apologies if posted before

Nice to reflect 36 years on!

http://youtu.be/fuUk2CuUCHA (http://youtu.be/fuUk2CuUCHA)


I'll have to put aside an hour for this - nice one!
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Andy42g on January 24, 2014, 14:31:57 pm
I think we tree'd the CD versions of these way back when.
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Andy42g on January 24, 2014, 14:48:11 pm
(http://www.vhnd.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/NAMM_5.jpg)
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Matt2112 on January 24, 2014, 14:51:20 pm
And I always thought there's never a cab around when you need one...


;D
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Dave64K on February 03, 2014, 21:18:38 pm
I always thought the grill cloth off look had a bit more edge  ;D

(http://www.davidhazy.com/projects/misc_carpentry/images/van_halen_1984.jpg)
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Jonners on February 04, 2014, 12:36:09 pm
Jesus Christ! Looks like something from Transformers! What a fantastic image. Reminds me of a Priest set for their Painkiller tour where there just seemed to be a ludicrous amount of metal on stage

(http://www.thexquorum.com/mad/PAINKILLER_files/stage91.jpg)
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Andy42g on February 04, 2014, 12:47:54 pm
Quote from: Jonners on February 04, 2014, 12:36:09 pm
Jesus Christ! Looks like something from Transformers! What a fantastic image.

A great pity we never got to see this tour in the UK. One poxy support slot at Donnington  :-\
There's a great boot DVD from Montreal Forum for 1984. Man they were a stunning live outfit back then.
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: captainkurtz on February 04, 2014, 13:33:06 pm
Loved that stage set.
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Jonners on February 04, 2014, 13:35:29 pm
Could be an interesting geeky thread, stage sets that you loved
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Matt2112 on February 04, 2014, 15:19:10 pm
Quote from: Jonners on February 04, 2014, 13:35:29 pm
Could be an interesting geeky thread, stage sets that you loved


Excellent idea.

Maiden's World Slavery Tour set springs immediately to mind.  :)
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Dave64K on February 05, 2014, 10:24:58 am
One for the solo artist  ;D

(http://library.creativecow.net/articles/kaufman_debra/John-Roesch_Foley-MPSE/assets/Back-to-the-Future-amp1.jpg)
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: captainkurtz on February 12, 2014, 13:58:59 pm
Andy Copping ‏@Maverick_AC 2h

To The Times newspaper today...three words... 1. Edward 2. Van 3. Halen


???
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: captainkurtz on February 12, 2014, 14:17:36 pm
Quote from: captainkurtz on February 12, 2014, 13:58:59 pm
Andy Copping ‏@Maverick_AC 2h

To The Times newspaper today...three words... 1. Edward 2. Van 3. Halen


???


::)

Not named in the top 20 best guitarists feature.
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Matt2112 on February 12, 2014, 14:18:26 pm
Quote from: captainkurtz on February 12, 2014, 13:58:59 pm
Andy Copping ‏@Maverick_AC 2h

To The Times newspaper today...three words... 1. Edward 2. Van 3. Halen


???


???
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Matt2112 on February 13, 2014, 10:50:07 am
VH News Desk: "New Van Halen Music In The Works" (http://www.vhnd.com/2014/02/12/new-van-halen-music-in-the-works/) 

QuoteALTER BRIDGE guitarist Mark Tremonti broke the news when he was telling VH1 Radio Network's Dave Basner about how new music is coming along with his solo band, TREMONTI, which includes VAN HALEN bassist Wolfgang Van Halen.

Said Mark: "With Wolfgang in the band now, he does a lot of work with VAN HALEN right now, they're putting together a new album, so it's going to be hard to get everybody's schedules to line up."
:o :D 8)
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: captainkurtz on February 13, 2014, 10:59:05 am
UK tour in 2016, then.  ::)
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Matt2112 on February 13, 2014, 11:07:34 am
Quote from: captainkurtz on February 13, 2014, 10:59:05 am
UK tour in 2016, then.  ::)


The 5150 30 Tour.  ;)  ;D
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Straight Shooter on February 13, 2014, 12:24:03 pm
Quote from: Matt2112 on February 13, 2014, 11:07:34 am
The 5150 30 Tour.  ;)  ;D

If only...
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Andy42g on April 02, 2014, 13:40:28 pm
Earliest interview:
http://www.vhnd.com/2014/04/01/unearthed-earliest-known-van-halen-interview-1977/

What are your major influences?
Our major influences are my cock, Schlitz Malt Liquor, fast cars, loud music, volume. You know, all the usual.
  ;D  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Matt2112 on July 15, 2015, 17:51:31 pm
So, anyone been seeing/hearing the video and audio clips from the current tour? (http://www.vhnd.com)  Seen the setlist?  :o  It's all tremendous!  8)
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Nick on July 15, 2015, 19:11:52 pm
Sounds better without Dave, sad to say http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/van-halen-audio-recording-of-soundcheck-from-opening-night-of-2015-tour/
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Matt2112 on August 01, 2015, 01:34:58 am
Been trawling through concerts over the years on YouTube.

Remarkable to see the wildly varying standard of Edward's live performances over the past 20 years or so to now.  On the Balance tour in 1995 he is utterly fantastic. On the "Reunion" tour almost 10 years later he is very much the opposite, obviously not in a great place, clearly pissed and his playing is bizarrely shambolic; under-rehearsed, sloppy, duffer-laden...it's shocking to witness.  But now about 10 years on from that he is as good as he's ever been - which of course is majestically, gob-smackingly, thrillingly good.  The transformation from bad back to great is even more stunning than his decline.

He's the King. :)
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: captainkurtz on August 01, 2015, 08:31:28 am
He sounds amazing now.

Wish they'd bloody tour here.
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: JonL on August 01, 2015, 11:03:19 am
I think I stated earlier, the sound check stiff with thE fans thee is great, band sound great, and Eddie is in good humour with everyone.
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: BaldiePete on January 07, 2016, 17:32:37 pm
The Nightmare Before Halloween (1977)

Excellent quality, very early boot, including 5 rehearsal recordings.

http://youtu.be/SJnDy5RgP4c

00:00 On Fire
03:42 Feel Your Love Tonight
07:52 Runnin' With The Devil
12:09 Atomic Punk
15:28 Little Dreamer
18:39 Somebody Get Me A Doctor
23:33 Ice Cream Man
26:57 Ain't Talkin' 'Bout Love
31:07 Eruption
34:55 D.O.A.
39:49 You Really Got Me
Rehearsals:
44:19 On Fire instrumental
47:10 Voodoo Queen (Mean Street) instrumental
50:15 Atomic Punk instrumental
51:14 Ain't Talkin' 'Bout Love
55:12 On Fire
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: DavidL on January 08, 2016, 20:25:03 pm
Quote from: BaldiePete on January 07, 2016, 17:32:37 pm
The Nightmare Before Halloween (1977)

Excellent quality, very early boot, including 5 rehearsal recordings.

http://youtu.be/SJnDy5RgP4c

00:00 On Fire
03:42 Feel Your Love Tonight
07:52 Runnin' With The Devil
12:09 Atomic Punk
15:28 Little Dreamer
18:39 Somebody Get Me A Doctor
23:33 Ice Cream Man
26:57 Ain't Talkin' 'Bout Love
31:07 Eruption
34:55 D.O.A.
39:49 You Really Got Me
Rehearsals:
44:19 On Fire instrumental
47:10 Voodoo Queen (Mean Street) instrumental
50:15 Atomic Punk instrumental
51:14 Ain't Talkin' 'Bout Love
55:12 On Fire
Brilliant! Gloriously navigating a line between inspirational spontaneity and casually shambolic. That would have been a great time to see them. The first two albums were superb - played the hell out of them.
Cheers for the link.
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Matt2112 on January 09, 2016, 12:21:26 pm
Quote from: DavidL on January 08, 2016, 20:25:03 pm
Brilliant! Gloriously navigating a line between inspirational spontaneity and casualy shambolic. That would have been a great time to see them. The first two albums were superb - played the hell out of them.
Cheers for the link.


Absolutely.  :)

Apparently, Edward has recently renovated the headless Steinberger guitar he used so wonderfully on Summer Nights.  Maybe there's something in the works..?
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: pdw1 on January 09, 2016, 17:10:28 pm
Quote from: DavidL on January 08, 2016, 20:25:03 pm
Brilliant! Gloriously navigating a line between inspirational spontaneity and casually shambolic. That would have been a great time to see them. The first two albums were superb - played the hell out of them.
Cheers for the link.


Good summation.  Those backing vocals are truly awful.  But overall it sounds like everyone was having a ball.
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: captainkurtz on January 09, 2016, 17:17:00 pm
he wouldn't need a steinberger for any Roth tracks..which can only mean one thing...please God no...
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: DavidL on January 09, 2016, 20:09:32 pm
Quote from: pdw1 on January 09, 2016, 17:10:28 pm
Good summation.  Those backing vocals are truly awful.  But overall it sounds like everyone was having a ball.
The backing vocals are the thing that stood out for me. It doesn't sound like the same guys!
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Thenop on January 09, 2016, 20:09:47 pm

Quote from: captainkurtz on January 09, 2016, 17:17:00 pm
he wouldn't need a steinberger for any Roth tracks..which can only mean one thing...please God no...

(http://s23.postimg.org/zdrse1twb/serveimage.jpg)
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Matt2112 on December 27, 2018, 10:48:41 am
Rumours gathering pace, extrapolated from some recent statements by DLR, of some US stadium shows next year - with Michael Anthony on bass!  :o

Shows are feasible, yes, but with MA?  Surely not.  :-\
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: captainkurtz on December 27, 2018, 11:15:53 am
Stadiums?  Can't see that being too successful, unless they are bringing major major support.

I think The Circle (hagar's band that features Anthony) have a new record out in early 2019...

They should start in Europe!
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: captainkurtz on February 27, 2019, 10:34:06 am
Its March on Friday.

Leaving it a bit late, aren't they?

I was thinking...AC/DC must be returning soon....a double header there would shift tickets quickly...
Title: Re: Van Halen
Post by: Pricey on March 08, 2019, 12:23:26 pm

Quote from: captainkurtz on December 27, 2018, 11:15:53 am
Stadiums?  Can't see that being too successful, unless they are bringing major major support.

I think The Circle (hagar's band that features Anthony) have a new record out in early 2019...

They should start in Europe!



we could go and see 15 minutes or so ..