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Title: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Red Star on June 29, 2006, 10:24:23 AM
Following on from 99.99% of Scots supporting anyone who are playing against England in the World Cup, I thought I would flip the coin and apply the same purile philosophy to Andy Murray's Wimbledon quest.

Aside from the fact that he publically stated he would be 'wearing' a Paraguay shirt for England's opening World Cup game, I find him petulant, bad tempered, bad sportsman and an arrogant prick who thinks he is far better than he actually is.

Yet he will come to England to participate in the world's most endeared and prestigious tennis tournament and expect the support of the partisan crowd ::)

Well feck him is all I can say, and I hope he gets hammered and humiliated by a complete no hope unknown who is thousands below him in the rankings.

COME ON WHOEVER PLAYS MURRAY!
Title: Re: Anyone but Andy Murray
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on June 29, 2006, 10:55:08 AM
Well said Chris :)

I thought I'd chilled after my anti-tennis rant yesterday, but I can feel the bile rising again.

Don't forget, Wimbledon is the all England Lawn Tennis and Croquet club, so if the brattish Murray is proud to Scottish, then let us English support his opponents :) Not that I care anyway :P

Oh, but don't forget he is british too.............
Title: Re: Anyone but Andy Murray
Post by: Jonners on June 29, 2006, 11:01:26 AM
I am not sinking to the level of out Celtic brethren.

Yes he is silly and misguided, but he is young and foolish, so I can sort of forgive him.
Title: Re: Anyone but Andy Murray
Post by: Fishy on June 29, 2006, 11:28:12 AM
ooooo you guys are just horrible..shame on you.... ::) ::)
Title: Re: Anyone but Andy Murray
Post by: Bez on June 29, 2006, 15:59:08 PM
I don't think you need to worry too much Chris, yet another over-hyped British hopefully destined for the last scooter to mediocrity-city....
Title: Re: Anyone but Andy Murray
Post by: döm on June 29, 2006, 17:09:32 PM
Tim Lovejoy, Not a guy I'm generally fond of, has an article in The Guardian and he was musing what the Scottish fans would be doing with their Paraguay, T&T, Ecuador etc etc shirts   Any ideas guys....
Title: Re: Anyone but Andy Murray
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on June 29, 2006, 17:24:40 PM
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Tim Lovejoy, Not a guy I'm generally fond of, has an article in The Guardian and he was musing what the Scottish fans would be doing with their Paraguay, T&T, Ecuador etc etc shirts
Title: Re: Anyone but Andy Murray
Post by: BaldiePete on June 29, 2006, 17:35:26 PM
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Tim Lovejoy, Not a guy I'm generally fond of, has an article in The Guardian and he was musing what the Scottish fans would be doing with their Paraguay, T&T, Ecuador etc etc shirts   Any ideas guys....

I'd be interested to see what the real sales figures are for those shirts in Scotland. I suspect that not many have actually been sold. I haven't seen anyone wearing them.
Title: Re: Anyone but Andy Murray
Post by: NeilP on June 29, 2006, 17:55:07 PM
he's a latest in a line of nobody's really... the Brits are very poor at this sport.

Also, he seems a bit of a gobshite to me too.
Title: Re: Anyone but Andy Murray
Post by: zoony on June 29, 2006, 20:54:19 PM
I called my 13 year old son Andy Murray tonight, and he asked me who he was. I showed him a picture of him, and now he's having his hair cut short tomorrow!

P.S. agree with everything you say about him Chris
Title: Re: Anyone but Andy Murray
Post by: roadcrew on July 01, 2006, 11:32:08 AM
I don't think he can win it, but wouldn't mind at all if he did.

How many of the top guys are not knob heads ?

I don't know as I don't know any.

Young and foolish, maybe, but most of us were once....smiles.....
Title: Re: Anyone but Andy Murray
Post by: Red Star on July 01, 2006, 13:09:28 PM
Come on Andy Roddick show the arrogant upstart that he's not as good as he thinks he is.

USA, USA, USA!
Title: Re: Anyone but Andy Murray
Post by: MarkThomas on July 01, 2006, 19:41:44 PM
Sadly, the odious twat seems to be 2 set up against Roddick. C'mon Andy (Roddick, that is).
Title: Re: Anyone but Andy Murray
Post by: zoony on July 01, 2006, 20:33:01 PM
Well, he's knocked out number 3 seed Roddick in straight sets........... :-/.
Title: Re: Anyone but Andy Murray
Post by: sjsbrfc on July 01, 2006, 20:44:13 PM
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How many of the top guys are not knob heads ?
....

I think many people on here will agree with me when I say you'r ea top guy Peter.

And you're not a knobhead :)
Title: Re: Anyone but Andy Murray
Post by: Analog RH on July 01, 2006, 20:58:17 PM
As far as I can tell Roger Federer isn't a knob head. Just a fecking awesome tennis player.

As for Andy Murray, the wife watched his game against Roddick and says Murray was on fire. No easy feat to beat to beat the ATP no. 5 seed, especially in straight sets. He won't win the championship, but he has a great chance in the fourth round (especially if he ends up playing Grosjean, as expected).
Title: Re: Anyone but Andy Murray
Post by: BaldiePete on July 01, 2006, 23:21:56 PM
He'll probably go out in the quarter finals.  ;)
Title: Re: Anyone but Andy Murray
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on July 01, 2006, 23:52:37 PM
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He'll probably go out in the quarter finals.
Title: Re: Anyone but Andy Murray
Post by: BaldiePete on July 02, 2006, 00:05:41 AM
He's Scottish AND British just as you are English AND British.
Title: Re: Anyone but Andy Murray
Post by: Thailand Express on July 02, 2006, 03:09:48 AM
Well done Andy, Scotland's greatest ever tennis player  ;D

What's the big deal about whether he was wanting England to win or not? This is tennis not football, it's an individual sport for fux sake!
Title: Re: Anyone but Andy Murray
Post by: Muppet on July 02, 2006, 17:03:58 PM
Looks like people here have sunk to same level then.  Andy Murray spoke his mind and has taken the backlash on the chin.  Whatever he'd said, he was in a no win situation.  Look at Gordon Brown - nobody believes him when he said he was backing England.  Andy said what many other Scots said but in doing so has taken all the flak from "little" England.

Well done for getting past Roddick, lets hope he can go a little further.  Wishing him ill beacause he spoke his mind?  Grow up the lot of you
Title: Re: Anyone but Andy Murray
Post by: The_Doctor on July 02, 2006, 18:18:41 PM
Andy Murray is doing a sterling job, flying the flag for Scotland and GB.
Title: Re: Anyone but Andy Murray
Post by: snodes on July 02, 2006, 22:59:07 PM
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I'd be interested to see what the real sales figures are for those shirts in Scotland. I suspect that not many have actually been sold. I haven't seen anyone wearing them.


Yeah - like those news reports about the sale of mangos quadrupling in Scotland when when England played T+T. Let's face it, selling 4 Mangoes in Scotland would quadruple it unless someone's worked out how to deep fry them. ;)
Title: Re: Anyone but Andy Murray
Post by: Red Star on July 02, 2006, 23:21:41 PM
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Looks like people here have sunk to same level then.
Title: Re: Anyone but Andy Murray
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on July 02, 2006, 23:37:56 PM
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 Andy Murray is getting what he deserves for speaking his mind and admitting he supports whoever plays England.

I'm merely doing the same and speaking my mind in supporting whoever plays against him.

Whats the difference?


I couldn't give a flying feck where he comes from - although the fact that he has said some things about England doesn't help - but he just seems such an odious unlikeable twat, like so many tennis players, that I just want him to fail miserably >:( As I've said before, and will say again, Tennis is a sport for people who don't like sport!

I was pleased as feck when Henman got beat, he's an odious unlikeable twat too
Title: Re: Anyone but Andy Murray
Post by: Thailand Express on July 03, 2006, 00:16:20 AM
I'm going to join this Scotland-England tit for tat and wear the colours of whoever Tim Henman is playing in future.


My guess is they'll be all white.
Title: Re: Anyone but Andy Murray
Post by: Red Star on July 03, 2006, 17:02:56 PM
So, the obnoxious odious liittle prick has been sent packing.

Good riddence.
Title: Re: Anyone but Andy Murray
Post by: Jonners on July 03, 2006, 17:18:36 PM
Great Britain/UK etc has absolutely no sporting heroes to be proud of right now, very dissapointing summer all round
Title: Re: Anyone but Andy Murray
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on July 03, 2006, 18:09:31 PM
Good riddance indeed ;D

Now he's out of Wimbledon, and I've taken my England shirt off, I can get back to my normal rational fair-minded self :)

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Great Britain/UK etc has absolutely no sporting heroes to be proud of right now, very dissapointing summer all round
We're still the world's best at Darts and Snooker aren't we?
Title: Re: Anyone but Andy Murray
Post by: zoony on July 03, 2006, 18:39:44 PM
Look's like Murray is going to be the same as Henman always was - Get's peoples hopes up, and then bottles it.
Title: Re: Anyone but Andy Murray
Post by: markyg on July 03, 2006, 19:57:39 PM
http://andymurray.com/about/news/03-07/baghdatis-wins/#comments
Title: Re: Anyone but Andy Murray
Post by: BaldiePete on July 03, 2006, 20:28:22 PM
Some sad racist c***s there  >:(
Title: Re: Anyone but Andy Murray
Post by: Muppet on July 03, 2006, 20:45:06 PM
Yup, theres some muppets on there Pete  :-?
Title: Re: Anyone but Andy Murray
Post by: Red Star on July 03, 2006, 20:45:48 PM
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Some sad racist c***s there
Title: Re: Anyone but Andy Murray
Post by: BaldiePete on July 03, 2006, 22:22:34 PM
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Yes, but I'm sorry to say that he started it all by being racist himself Pete.

There are more than a few words of truth spoken there also and he has brought it entirely and squarely on himself.

Shame really because he could have got the support of the entire nation behind him.

Jeezus, get a sense of perspective and hopefully a sense of humour as well  :( :( :(  He didn't make derogatary comments about English people, he didn't denigrate your country, he didn't threaten anyone with violence. He said he wasn't going to support the sporting representatives of another country. Big deal. As I said in another thread, the sporting rivalry between our countries is the oldest rivalry in international football. We should celebrate that rivalry and HAVE FUN with it for chrissake not use it as an excuse to bash each other.

Can you not tell the difference between sporting rivalry and racism ?  Not supporting England is NOT racist, personal abuse based on a person's nationality IS racist.

As a Chelsea fan you must be used to the "anyone but ..." mentality.

"Anyone but England" is NO DIFFERENT than "anyone but Chelsea"
"Anyone but England" is NO DIFFERENT than "anyone but Manchester United"
"Anyone but England" is NO DIFFERENT than "anyone but Celtic"

This site has seen comments of the "anyone but Portugal", "anyone but Germany" and "anyone but Argentina" comments. Are those racist ?

Very saddened by all this.  :( :( :(

Title: Re: Anyone but Andy Murray
Post by: Bez on July 04, 2006, 09:24:20 AM
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Jeezus, get a sense of perspective and hopefully a sense of humour as well
Title: Re: Anyone but Andy Murray
Post by: Red Star on July 04, 2006, 10:54:35 AM
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Can you not tell the difference between sporting rivalry and racism ?
Title: Re: Anyone but Andy Murray
Post by: cygnusxdave on July 04, 2006, 13:27:52 PM
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Well done Andy, Scotland's greatest ever tennis player
Title: Re: Anyone but Andy Murray
Post by: The Old Dog on July 08, 2006, 18:42:23 PM
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No, he's not. That would be Angus Podgorny. The first Scotsman to ever win Wimbledon after Mr & Mrs Samuel Brainsample ate the giant blancmange from the Planet Skyron.
Finally some sanity is spouted forth on this topic . ;D
Title: Re: Anyone but Andy Murray
Post by: Bman2112 on July 10, 2006, 13:17:54 PM
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I'd like to think that I CAN tell the difference between sporting rivalry and racism Pete.

I don't think your comparisons stand up. Man Utd, Chelsea and Celtic are clubs formed up of players from all over the world so the' anyone but '.......does not have the same inference as anyone but England.

What Murray has said is that he would rather any country in the entire world win over England which is not the same as merely not supporting them - it intimates a thorough dislike for England in that he prefers any other country in the world - right?

He is flying the flag for Scottish anti English bitterness if you ask me and he has turned thousands of would be supporters against him.

He realised the error of his ways in his post match interview after the Roddick match, when he pathetically tried to back pedal by saying 'it's a shame England didn't go through as well' but it was all too late - we all know his true colours.


Couldn't agree more.  What a PR disaster.  I know that i won't ever be supporting him again, simple as that.   I can't believe people on here are defending him!

And why are the English branded as racists when we stand up for ourselves  :-?  Strange that.  Oh well.....
Title: Re: Anyone but Andy Murray
Post by: döm on July 10, 2006, 13:49:30 PM
He seems to be nothing but a whinging miserable bastard who's always getting injured - and the hopes of British tennis are pinned on him  ::)
Title: Re: Anyone but Andy Murray
Post by: Jonners on July 10, 2006, 13:51:33 PM
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He seems to be nothing but a whinging miserable bastard who's always getting injured -
Title: Re: Anyone but Andy Murray
Post by: döm on July 10, 2006, 13:57:28 PM
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thought you were talking about me for a moment!

Well if the hat fits....  ;D

Could have been talking about myself actually - apart from the British tennis bit
Title: Re: Anyone but Andy Murray
Post by: Dods on July 10, 2006, 14:24:56 PM
He is 19 ffs!

You lot down there will NEVER understand why a lot of us feel this way....

I suppose the threats & taunts about Dunblane are ok then  >:(  :'(

Sick bastards

Blown out of all proportion just like your shite fotball team!
Title: Re: Anyone but Andy Murray
Post by: Bman2112 on July 10, 2006, 14:28:01 PM
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He is 19 ffs!

You lot down there will NEVER understand why a lot of us feel this way....

I suppose the threats & taunts about Dunblane are ok then  >:(  :'(

Sick bastards

Blown out of all proportion just like your shite fotball team!

"You lot down there will NEVER understand why a lot of us feel this way...."

Please educate me then.  Plus i've never seen, nor heard anything on Dunblane - especially on this forum.

As for our footy team - you have a point there  ;)
Title: Re: Anyone but Andy Murray
Post by: Andy Piercy on July 10, 2006, 14:41:29 PM
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... I find him petulant, bad tempered, bad sportsman and an arrogant prick who thinks he is far better than he actually is.

What, like Wayne Rooney?
Title: Re: Anyone but Andy Murray
Post by: Jonners on July 10, 2006, 14:44:34 PM
But rooney is not so anal and bigotted that he turns round to the press saying " I hope anyone wins apart from Scotland!"
Title: Re: Anyone but Andy Murray
Post by: Chris Quartly on July 10, 2006, 14:53:03 PM
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He is 19 ffs!

You lot down there will NEVER understand why a lot of us feel this way....

Blown out of all proportion just like your shite fotball team!

Think you dropped this, Dods :)

(http://www.rappid.org.uk/images/homepage/dummy.jpg)
Title: Re: Anyone but Andy Murray
Post by: Bman2112 on July 10, 2006, 14:54:40 PM
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Think you dropped this, Dods :)

(http://www.rappid.org.uk/images/homepage/dummy.jpg)


 :o   :o

 ;D   ;D
Title: Re: Anyone but Andy Murray
Post by: Dods on July 10, 2006, 14:55:58 PM
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Think you dropped this, Dods :)

(http://www.rappid.org.uk/images/homepage/dummy.jpg)
:D
Title: Re: Anyone but Andy Murray
Post by: zoony on July 10, 2006, 22:35:22 PM
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Think you dropped this, Dods :)

(http://www.rappid.org.uk/images/homepage/dummy.jpg)
Hey! That was mine at one time Chris!  :P ;).
Title: Re: Anyone but Andy Murray
Post by: Red Star on May 19, 2007, 09:49:15 AM
I see Andy Murray has been ruled out of the French Open with a wrist injury.

Insert your own joke here.............. ::)
Title: Re: Anyone but Andy Murray
Post by: Jon M on May 19, 2007, 17:07:34 PM
Well I think Murray is a brilliant player. Seen many of his games and he can beat anyone even when they play well.  Theres only one flaw and thats the way he picks up injuries so easily.

Joke for Chris: Whats brown and sticky? Henmans pants in a Slam tournament. The bat wafting Jessie.
Title: Re: Anyone but Andy Murray
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on May 19, 2007, 17:46:52 PM
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Joke for Chris: Whats brown and sticky?
I thought that was a stick :-/
Title: Re: Anyone but Andy Murray
Post by: Jon M on May 20, 2007, 10:36:32 AM
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I thought that was a stick :-/

Yep your right  ::)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Dixkot on March 03, 2008, 18:21:24 PM

Murray beats Federer (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/tennis/7272856.stm)  ;D
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: NeilP on March 03, 2008, 18:33:23 PM
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Murray beats Federer (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/tennis/7272856.stm)  ;D

so, cue the disaster in the next round.....

best of luck
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on March 03, 2008, 19:35:43 PM
I'll take notice when he starts doing it in the grand slams...or the Davis cup, if he can be bothered to play in it.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: JimmyG on March 03, 2008, 21:32:08 PM
Well played Andy.

They should abolish the Davis Cup, its totally irrelevant.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Dods on March 03, 2008, 21:39:42 PM
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Well played Andy.

They should abolish the Davis Cup, its totally irrelevant.
Totally agree.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on March 04, 2008, 13:34:19 PM
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They should abolish the Davis Cup, its totally irrelevant.

It's a big part of tennis history, and will be around a lot longer than Andy Murray.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on March 04, 2008, 13:37:44 PM
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It's a big part of tennis history, and will be around a lot longer than Andy Murray.
And I bet they wouldn't be saying that if Scotland played Davis Cup Tennis
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on March 04, 2008, 20:38:30 PM
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And I bet they wouldn't be saying that if Scotland played Davis Cup Tennis

Do the Scots play team sports then Nick?  :P ;).
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: BaldiePete on March 04, 2008, 20:48:23 PM
Just as a matter of interest are you aware of the question that Andy Murray was asked that caused all the controversy before the 2006 World Cup ?
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on March 04, 2008, 20:52:40 PM
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Just as a matter of interest are you aware of the question that Andy Murray was asked that caused all the controversy before the 2006 World Cup?

No Pete, enlighten us mate.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: JimmyG on March 04, 2008, 20:54:12 PM
It was:-
"So Andy will you be following Scotland at the world cup Ha Ha Ha"
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: BaldiePete on March 04, 2008, 21:37:17 PM
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It was:-
"So Andy will you be following Scotland at the world cup Ha Ha Ha"


That's the one.

So, it's the 1994 World Cup. England didn't qualify but Ireland did and you are asked by a sniggering Irish journalist if you'll be supporting England at the forthcoming World Cup. Personally I think a sarky reply is totally justified.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Dods on March 04, 2008, 22:05:35 PM
Very much
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: JimmyG on March 04, 2008, 23:48:07 PM
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It's a big part of tennis history, and will be around a lot longer than Andy Murray.

Fair points, can I retract my abolition idea :-(
I've always supported team GB in this event and will
continue to do so, but theres been a big problem for
many years with top 16 players (even non-injury prone
ones) dropping out of Davis Cup ties so some kind of
format/schedule change might improve it.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: JimmyG on March 04, 2008, 23:49:40 PM
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So, it's the 1994 World Cup. England didn't qualify but Ireland did and you are asked by a sniggering Irish journalist if you'll be supporting England at the forthcoming World Cup. Personally I think a sarky reply is totally justified.

A boot to the baws would be totally justified
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Dixkot on March 05, 2008, 20:50:36 PM
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so, cue the disaster in the next round.....


 ::) ::)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: NeilP on March 05, 2008, 23:44:58 PM
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 ::) ::)

nearly ;)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on March 21, 2008, 20:01:25 PM
He's certainly like Henman in one respect, he beats the best, and then loses to the rest.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Red Star on June 25, 2008, 14:10:13 PM
Well, a good win in his opening game at Wimbledon against a player nicknamed 'The Magician' - a good player no doubt but at 35 years of age probably well past his best.

At the end of the match Murray celebrated like he'd just won the tournament rather than got through the first round - wtf?
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on June 25, 2008, 14:42:49 PM
was probably on a promise from his g/f if he got thru...
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Jonners on June 25, 2008, 14:50:37 PM
(http://d.yimg.com/eur.yimg.com/ng/sp/empics/4767655)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on June 25, 2008, 14:57:52 PM
new balls pulease....
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Jonners on June 25, 2008, 14:58:33 PM
New thread please

"Sportsmans girlfriends"

I will start it off
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Thailand Express on June 27, 2008, 00:09:06 AM
Has anybody asked Andy who he's supporting at Euro 2008?

Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Slim on June 29, 2008, 11:17:21 AM
Some fantastic tennis from Andy yesterday; terrific display and great to see him through to the second week. We have a real prospect of a British men's Wimbledon champion in a couple of years, although on balance I guess it's not probable.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on June 29, 2008, 22:07:30 PM
He needs to improve his second serve, but is looking like he might go a stage further than Henman did.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: BaldiePete on June 30, 2008, 22:17:07 PM
A cracking win - he showed real fighting spirit tonight. It would certainly be easier if he improved his second serve though.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: FLITCH on June 30, 2008, 22:30:10 PM
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A cracking win - he showed real fighting spirit tonight. It would certainly be easier if he improved his second serve though.
A great comeback after looking dead and buried. Nadal next though. No chance.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: BaldiePete on June 30, 2008, 22:36:49 PM
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A great comeback after looking dead and buried. Nadal next though. No chance.


I expect not, but he's done well to get further than his seeding, and he will be lifted by the support from the crowd. Nadal is in such great form though that he must be a firm favourite.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Ben on June 30, 2008, 22:42:00 PM
A fine performance showing real belief and skill, I can't recall Henman producing the goods in such a way. Nadal should roll him over but...If he can serve as he did for the last 3 sets who knows, well done Scotland.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: FLITCH on June 30, 2008, 22:52:44 PM
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I expect not, but he's done well to get further than his seeding, and he will be lifted by the support from the crowd. Nadal is in such great form though that he must be a firm favourite.
Yea, quite right. He's definetely gone up in my estimation.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: SL on June 30, 2008, 23:02:01 PM
...He won?? Brilliant!!
Dammit..must try to stay with matches from now on!  I got called away when he was losing.. kinda presumed.. woops  :-[

C'mon Andy!!
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: geo on June 30, 2008, 23:22:04 PM
he showed some great heart tonite and never let his head go down,
i expect nadal just to have too much for him,but i think he has given us genuine hope for a future home bred wimbledon champion.
well done andy and best of luck for the future.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on July 01, 2008, 04:47:29 AM
It was certainly a great fightback from Murray last night, he was being outplayed in all departments for the first two sets. A real tough match now against Nadal, but he has nothing to lose, and might just do it.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Dods on July 01, 2008, 11:38:07 AM
Fantastic fightback by the lad last night. Very exciting stuff.

He is so reliant upon his first serve and I agree he needs to work on his second. That will come in time I am sure. Therefore, I don't see him getting past the poser Nadal. Nadal is on fire just now.

But what about that winning pass in the tie break? Simply fantastic.

(I suspect Andy's thing with showing muscle at the end last night was to let the girlies see he has some too). Muscle shirts should not be allowed at Wimbledon.

BTW, I am the only one who hates the grunting after every stroke by some players?
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Slim on July 01, 2008, 19:44:45 PM
It usually annoys me as well, although I quite like it in women's tennis sometimes ::)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Bez on July 02, 2008, 12:51:32 PM
Come on Nadal !
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on July 02, 2008, 13:14:40 PM
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Come on Nadal!
Absolutely  ;D

Can't stand tennis, but there's just something about Murray that makes me want to give him a good shoeing.....
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on July 02, 2008, 13:40:20 PM
well i hope he kicks Nadal's firm and supple ass...
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on July 02, 2008, 20:12:58 PM
Murray has still got a long way to go before he's up with the big boys. Well outplayed by Nadal today, and never looked like winning tbh.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Bez on July 02, 2008, 20:31:31 PM
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well i hope he kicks Nadal's firm and supple ass...

he might as well have had a fluffy bunny tied to the end of his arm from what I saw...hammered  ;D
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: NeilP on July 02, 2008, 23:06:08 PM
he's the best we've got by a long way but he seems to be a long way from winning anything atm - there are a number of very good youngsters out there and I suspect if it wasn't for the fact that he is a Scot/British..... he'd be overlooked by the media.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Dods on July 03, 2008, 09:45:21 AM
Well beaten but that is no surprise.

C'mon the Swiss bloke
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on July 03, 2008, 10:18:05 AM
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he might as well have had a fluffy bunny tied to the end of his arm from what I saw...hammered
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: dwtty on July 03, 2008, 10:59:00 AM
Murray's got a face you just want to hit.

end of.

Now that nice young chap who sleeps in a van....???... different story.  :D
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Spud on July 03, 2008, 14:04:41 PM
Nadal lokked like he had another couple of gears if he needed them.  
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Thailand Express on July 03, 2008, 17:56:05 PM
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he's the best we've got by a long way but he seems to be a long way from winning anything atm - there are a number of very good youngsters out there and I suspect if it wasn't for the fact that he is a Scot/British..... he'd be overlooked by the media.

He's still 11th in the world and probably rising, so I think there would still be some interest in him if he was from another country (from tennis fans anyway).

Nadal and Federer are in a different league to the rest right now though.

Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: BaldiePete on July 03, 2008, 18:15:03 PM
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Nadal and Federer are in a different league to the rest right now though.


Indeed, they are in a group by themselves way out in front. Djokovic is behind them and then there is a big drop off to a group which would include Murray. He is likely to be back in the top 10 after Wimbledon though. Also, he has won 5 tour events.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Ron on July 03, 2008, 19:15:58 PM
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Murray's got a face you just want to hit.

end of.

Now that nice young chap who sleeps in a van....???... different story.  :D

Your van perhaps? ;D
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: snodes on July 03, 2008, 20:12:50 PM
I flicked the radio on at 6.30 this am to hear Murray's post match interview played over The Smiths' "Heaven knows I'm miserable now" - can't remember the last time I chuckled so much at that time of the morning.

The Nadal beating made his dreadful "bicep" celebration even more embarrasing. :-[
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: LeeC on July 03, 2008, 23:09:54 PM
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Murray's got a face you just want to hit.

end of.

Now that nice young chap who sleeps in a van....???... different story.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: NeilP on July 04, 2008, 12:08:47 PM
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Indeed, they are in a group by themselves way out in front. Djokovic is behind them and then there is a big drop off to a group which would include Murray. He is likely to be back in the top 10 after Wimbledon though. Also, he has won 5 tour events.
Wouldn't disagree with that and I was surprised at how much money he's earned to date. As for the 5 event wins - were these tournaments that the 3 guys you mentioned couldn't be arsed entering?
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: BaldiePete on July 04, 2008, 13:34:42 PM
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Wouldn't disagree with that and I was surprised at how much money he's earned to date. As for the 5 event wins - were these tournaments that the 3 guys you mentioned couldn't be arsed entering?


Bastard - you've made me go and look this up now.

Semi-finalist and finalist in the tournaments he has won. I don't know if Nadal or Federer were in these but I suspect not.

2006 - San Jose
Roddick and Hewitt

2007 - St Petersburg
Youzhny and Verdasco (who ?)

2007 - San Jose
Roddick and Karlovic

2008 - Doha
Davydenko and Wawrinka

2008 - Marseille
Mathieu (who ?) and Ancic

He has beaten Federer twice in other tournaments. Never beaten Nadal or Djokovic.


Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: NeilP on July 04, 2008, 15:21:11 PM
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b@st@rd - you've made me go and look this up now.

Semi-finalist and finalist in the tournaments he has won. I don't know if Nadal or Federer were in these but I suspect not.

2006 - San Jose
Roddick and Hewitt

2007 - St Petersburg
Youzhny and Verdasco (who?)

2007 - San Jose
Roddick and Karlovic

2008 - Doha
Davydenko and Wawrinka

2008 - Marseille
Mathieu (who?) and Ancic

He has beaten Federer twice in other tournaments. Never beaten Nadal or Djokovic.



Federer hadn't played for 3 months and had glandular fever didn't he? :P
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: BaldiePete on July 04, 2008, 15:22:24 PM
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Federer hadn't played for 3 months and had glandular fever didn't he? :P

Only the second time  ::)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: andyhaines on July 06, 2008, 16:23:42 PM
Can Andrew Castle get any further up Nadal's arse?


(He is playing pretty well, mind you)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: andyhaines on July 06, 2008, 20:12:50 PM
Rained off...come on Federer. ;D
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on July 06, 2008, 20:24:36 PM
yeah come on feders..can't be arsed with Naders grunting...
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on July 06, 2008, 20:35:10 PM
It's certainly turning into a classic, Federer will just not give in.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Thailand Express on July 06, 2008, 23:23:28 PM
Best game of tennis I've ever seen, the quality of play was sensational!


Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Topper on July 07, 2008, 07:18:41 AM
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Best game of tennis I've ever seen, the quality of play was sensational!



Agree with that. Best match ever.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: andyhaines on July 07, 2008, 11:11:39 AM
Fantastic game...although it went on so long that I can hardly remember the end..

..3 bottles of red wine can't have helped.. :-[
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on July 07, 2008, 11:17:35 AM
a bit pissed off that the BBC canned "George Gently" though...
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: JonL on July 07, 2008, 15:59:39 PM
I was shouting and yelling with every point won, regardless of whose point it was.

Simply stunning. And a respectful crowd meant that no one really had the "home" advantage.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on July 07, 2008, 20:06:26 PM
Yesterdays match mirrored the great rivalry with Borg and McEnroe, with Nadal finally catching up with Federer and beating him, just as McEnroe did with Borg all those years ago. The standard of play yesterday was unbelievable, and Andy Murray is going to have to improve drastically to compete with those two.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: NeilP on July 07, 2008, 23:26:17 PM
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Yesterdays match mirrored the great rivalry with Borg and McEnroe, with Nadal finally catching up with Federer and beating him, just as McEnroe did with Borg all those years ago. The standard of play yesterday was unbelievable, and Andy Murray is going to have to improve drastically to compete with those two.

let's face it - he's not likely to, is he?

He's a very good player but not a world beater.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on July 08, 2008, 20:14:49 PM
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let's face it - he's not likely to, is he?

He's a very good player but not a world beater.

I'd agree with you Neil, he doesn't appear to have the drive that Nadal has.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Dixkot on August 03, 2008, 23:23:43 PM


Superb Murray wins Masters title
 (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/tennis/7539980.stm)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: BaldiePete on August 04, 2008, 00:15:16 AM
Excellent win for Murray tonight. That's Djokovic beaten in both of their most recent meetings so one bogey has been laid to rest. Nadal might be tougher though  :P
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: andyhaines on August 04, 2008, 00:32:07 AM
Bloody hell... he's looking like a real contender for a grand slam title in the next 3-4 years..
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on August 04, 2008, 13:49:05 PM
Credit where it's due, well done to Murray, excellent tournament win where all the big guns were competing.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Topper on August 04, 2008, 14:21:38 PM
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Bloody hell... he's looking like a real contender for a grand slam title in the next 3-4 years..

I would say right now is the time to win. Federer might be fading, Nadal is on his least fave surface and has played loads of matches(because he wins :)), and Murray has beaten all the other contenders. I am, at the very least, going to look at his odds for the U.S Open.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Dixkot on August 04, 2008, 14:26:52 PM
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I am, at the very least, going to look at his odds for the U.S Open.

10/1 with SkyBet


Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Topper on August 04, 2008, 14:32:35 PM
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10/1 with SkyBet



Worth a punt. :)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Topper on August 04, 2008, 16:33:53 PM
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Worth a punt. :)

Also Alex Bogdanovic, better known as the British number 2 ranked player.....1000/1 to win U.S. Open. Not worth a punt.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on August 11, 2008, 13:09:40 PM
Well done in the Olympics Andy.
being British not good enough for you, you miserable petulant Scotchman you.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: BaldiePete on August 11, 2008, 19:10:21 PM
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Well done in the Olympics Andy.
being British not good enough for you, you miserable petulant Scotchman you.

Well done in the Olympics Tom Daley.
being British not good enough for you, you precocious English brat.

Perhaps that will help point out the utter fatuousness of your comments.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on August 11, 2008, 19:57:06 PM
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Well done in the Olympics Tom Daley.
being British not good enough for you, you precocious English brat.

Perhaps that will help point out the utter fatuousness of your comments.
Synchronised diving is not a sport, and the brat has yet to badmouth the Jockos as far as I know, I was pleased to see young Tom's diving partner badmouth him though..........
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: BaldiePete on August 11, 2008, 20:04:08 PM
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Synchronised diving is not a sport, and the brat has yet to badmouth the Jockos as far as I know, I was pleased to see young Tom's diving partner badmouth him though..........

Would you care to show me some evidence of Andy Murray badmouthing the English.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on August 11, 2008, 20:51:02 PM
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Would you care to show me some evidence of Andy Murray badmouthing the English.

Good enough evidence for me from the opening post in this thread, courtesy of Mr Star

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Following on from 99.99% of Scots supporting anyone who are playing against England in the World Cup, I thought I would flip the coin and apply the same purile philosophy to Andy Murray's Wimbledon quest.

[size=22]Aside from the fact that he publically stated he would be 'wearing' a Paraguay shirt for England's opening World Cup game,[/size] I find him petulant, bad tempered, bad sportsman and an arrogant prick who thinks he is far better than he actually is.

Yet he will come to England to participate in the world's most endeared and prestigious tennis tournament and expect the support of the partisan crowd ::)

Well feck him is all I can say, and I hope he gets hammered and humiliated by a complete no hope unknown who is thousands below him in the rankings.

COME ON WHOEVER PLAYS MURRAY!

Although I expect that has been thoroughly debunked by Snopes  ::)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: BaldiePete on August 11, 2008, 21:39:14 PM
Oh look an open court. I'll just hit the ball into it shall I ?

Look at the second article on this blog from Des Kelly of the Daily Mail. He was the journalist whose interview with Murray sparked all this outrage. For some reason he fails to mention Chris's presence at this interview so I'll just believe what he says.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/othersports/article-1033143/Des-Kelly-Federer-8217-s-winner-taking-defeat-like-man-son.html

Just in case you manage to miss it here is what he says.





Let me return to the topic of Andy Murray and this whole anti-English argument for what I truly hope is the last time - although I doubt it.

Some of the nonsensical criticism Britain's No 1 has received is laced with such misplaced venom and outrage that it makes me despair.

So, for the hard of thinking, let me state here that: I did the interview with Andy Murray and Tim Henman a couple of years back where Murray talked about 'supporting whoever England were playing against'.

It was a clearly a sarcastic remark. He was responding to teasing from your columnist about Scotland's absence from the 2006 World Cup and derisive laughter from the mischievous Henman.

It was reported in that context in this newspaper at the time and the exchange was run as a transcript.

A couple of days later a red-top got excited about the comments, lifted a couple of them into a 'story' that took on a life of its own and from there the truth was lost.

It is astonishing how this has run and run.

An extremely talented columnist pal of mine declared unequivocally the other day that: 'I don't think his remarks about England were a joke. There are some people who just don't like the English and I believe in my marrow that Murray is one of them.'

Based on what?

I did the interview - and it was a joke, as I have said before. And what marrows have to do with it I don't know, but it is certainly time to call a halt when vegetables like David Mellor pop up on the Today programme to lecture Murray about how to wave a Union Flag.

Murray has been variously decried as 'disgusting' and 'yobbish' for doing nothing more than show a bit of Celtic fire during a fabulous comeback by people who clearly have no understanding of the excitement sport generates.

They are the same Phillipa Space types who used to accuse Henman of lacking passion.

The critics also ignore the fact that Murray has improved greatly at Wimbledon this year and is Britain's best and only hope of success for years to come.

He doesn't drink, behaves himself off court, has a steady girlfriend, a fine family and has just moved back into the world's top 10. Something to be proud of, I'd say.

As for this England v Scotland thing, personally, after some of the twaddle I've read this past fortnight from 'patriotic' Brits, I wouldn't hold it against him if he decided to become German.


Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on August 11, 2008, 21:53:00 PM
You believe what's been quoted in the Daily Mail???????????????????????

You have gone down in my estimation sir.

I can tell from Andy Murray's face that he is incapable of joking, and sarcasm is well above him.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: BaldiePete on August 11, 2008, 22:00:01 PM
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You believe what's been quoted in the Daily Mail???????????????????????
You have gone down in my estimation sir.


OK that part is embarrassing
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: rufus the dawg on August 27, 2008, 10:03:54 AM
if i may interject?

what really got me about AM is that the lawn tennis ass. paid brad gilbert half million quid a year to coach AM and hes the best tennis coach in the world, and AM got him sacked.

if were AM and someone else was paying my coaches wages i would cut their hand off.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Dixkot on September 05, 2008, 17:20:50 PM


And A.M reaches the US Open Semi-Final.

Regarding rufus the dawg's point.  Since sacking Gilbert A.M has reached a Grand Slam semi and quarter and has risen to No 4 in the world.  This equals the highest position EVER reached by a British player.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Topper on September 05, 2008, 17:38:40 PM
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And A.M reaches the US Open Semi-Final.


...And still available at 8/1 to win it all.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on September 05, 2008, 20:39:21 PM
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...And still available at 8/1 to win it all.

And wouldn't touch it with a barge pole ;).
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Topper on September 06, 2008, 18:37:52 PM
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And wouldn't touch it with a barge pole ;).

Hang on to that barge pole a little longer zoony. Murray up on Nadal going into second set.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on September 07, 2008, 20:22:15 PM
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Hang on to that barge pole a little longer zoony. Murray up on Nadal going into second set.

Make that two sets up, and 3-2 down in the third. I think they resume at 9pm our time?
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Dixkot on September 07, 2008, 23:04:50 PM


WOO HOO

Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Topper on September 07, 2008, 23:08:06 PM
Murray in the final. Full credit to Nadal also for taking the time to sign autographs and stuff for people after what must be a horrible defeat.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: BaldiePete on September 07, 2008, 23:09:54 PM
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Murray in the final. Full credit to Nadal also for taking the time to sign autographs and stuff for people after what must be a horrible defeat.


Get in there !!   ;D ;D ;D


(Agree about Nadal - very classy)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: NeilP on September 08, 2008, 00:08:48 AM
Great effort Andy Murray!! - but please don't blow it now.

Nadal was a generous loser too.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Bez on September 08, 2008, 07:39:23 AM
much as I dislike Murray that's a great result....could be a real springboard for him.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: captainkurtz on September 08, 2008, 08:14:57 AM
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much as I dislike Murray that's a great result....could be a real springboard for him.
Same here, a miserable git with zero charisma and a terrible haircut.  Hopefully we'll get a smile if he wins.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on September 08, 2008, 09:33:21 AM
Nice one...
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Vapor Trailer on September 08, 2008, 10:18:57 AM
When he's winning he's a Brit. When he loses he's a Scot. ::)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on September 08, 2008, 11:27:40 AM
Great result against Nadal, but it will be forgotten if he loses the final.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on September 08, 2008, 13:10:24 PM
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When he's winning he's a Brit. When he loses he's a Scot. ::)
Whatever he does I think he's a c***.

Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Dods on September 08, 2008, 13:50:20 PM
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Great result against Nadal, but it will be forgotten if he loses the final.
Er no. Apparently he will be at least no 4 in the world after this.

Really enjoyed some wonderful tennis from both of them last night. The way Andy fought back to regain control was commendable.

Believe!
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on September 08, 2008, 19:44:37 PM
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Er no. Apparently he will be at least no 4 in the world after this.


And you're point being? What i was getting at is if he loses the final, the fact that he beat Nadal to get there will mean nothing.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: NeilP on September 08, 2008, 22:00:14 PM
Best of luck tonight Andrew Murray - make Scotland and yourself proud tonight! 8-)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Slim on September 08, 2008, 22:03:59 PM
Make Britain proud, Andy.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: NeilP on September 08, 2008, 22:37:02 PM
uphill from here
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: NeilP on September 09, 2008, 00:04:36 AM
nevermind .... a brave attempt :-/
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Dixkot on September 09, 2008, 00:26:06 AM
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nevermind .... a brave attempt :-/


Federer was different class.  Don't think anyone would have got much from him in that form.

Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Dods on September 09, 2008, 09:10:51 AM
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Federer was different class.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Dods on September 09, 2008, 09:11:56 AM
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And you're point being? What i was getting at is if he loses the final, the fact that he beat Nadal to get there will mean nothing.
Sorry mate but I think it means one helluva lot tbh and won't be forgotten imho.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on September 09, 2008, 09:17:54 AM
bad luck Murray..never really stood a chance from the highlights i saw this morning... your time will come...
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Vapor Trailer on September 09, 2008, 10:24:57 AM
Brave Scot beaten in final then. ::)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Ron on September 09, 2008, 16:48:58 PM
I really like this quote, from the BBC website:

And despite the defeat, Murray remained sharp enough to make a joke when asked how he felt about picking up a cheque for US$1m.

"That's about
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on September 09, 2008, 19:50:27 PM
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Sorry mate but I think it means one helluva lot tbh and won't be forgotten imho.

Fair enough Dods, we won't fall out over it ;).

So Murray couldn't pull it off, but it's no disgrace to lose to a man who in a lot of people eyes is still the REAL number 1 in mens tennis, and imo, it's only the fact that he's never won the French open that prevents him from being the best of all time. Murrays time will come though, he has time on his side, and it will probably be at the US open as opposed to Wimbledon, as i think the surface suits him better.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Red Star on September 10, 2008, 08:41:28 AM
He he, reality check for Murray against a different class Federer. I have to give him credit for dispatching Nadal however much it pains me.

Don't forget your Croatia shirt tonight though Andy ::)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Dixkot on October 18, 2008, 20:05:30 PM

Murray gains revenge over Federer (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/tennis/7677764.stm)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: NeilP on October 18, 2008, 21:03:07 PM
Great result - will he deliver in the final?
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: döm on October 19, 2008, 13:51:33 PM
Great result - will he deliver in the final?

He now has an even better chance as Simon managed to beat Nadal, completely knackering himself in the process
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Dixkot on October 19, 2008, 16:53:33 PM


And Murray wins it 6-4 7-6(8-6).
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: NeilP on October 19, 2008, 17:04:27 PM
great win for the Brit ;)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: döm on October 19, 2008, 20:20:32 PM
Nice to see the effectiveness of the French system - another French finalist - we currently have  Gasquet, Monfils, Tsonga and now Simon all perfectly capable of making finals and winning them  :)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: döm on October 19, 2008, 20:56:31 PM
Nice to see the effectiveness of the French system - another French finalist - we currently have  Gasquet, Monfils, Tsonga and now Simon all perfectly capable of making finals and winning them  :)


Having said that I doubt that many of them will be beating Murray on a regular basis - a system can develop players to a good standard but it takes pure individual talent to reach Murray's standard  :)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: döm on November 02, 2008, 20:46:41 PM
Fair weather supporters  ;)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Dixkot on January 10, 2009, 19:30:24 PM


He's becoming a bit of a star is our Andy.  Not many folk beat Federer twice, Nadal and Roddick in the same week.

Got to be up with the favourites for a Grand Slam victory this season.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on January 10, 2009, 21:02:39 PM



Got to be up with the favourites for a Grand Slam victory this season.

I believe he is now the bookies favourite to win the Australian open Dix.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: NeilP on January 10, 2009, 21:12:47 PM
He's certainly has Federer's number by focusing 80% of his shots to his backhand and has developed into the top man atm. He was described today in the papers as the current alpha male of men's game at the mo' - it seems that way!
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Bez on January 10, 2009, 23:26:32 PM
He's certainly has Federer's number by focusing 80% of his shots to his backhand and has developed into the top man atm. He was described today in the papers as the current alpha male of men's game at the mo' - it seems that way!

still a cnut though..... ;)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: NeilP on January 26, 2009, 08:04:08 AM
still not lived up to potential - he's just lost to someone I've never heard of - very disappointing result.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Dixkot on January 26, 2009, 14:45:26 PM
still not lived up to potential - he's just lost to someone I've never heard of - very disappointing result.

Aye, he made an arse of it.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: NeilP on January 26, 2009, 14:50:58 PM
to be fair, I understand the Spaniard is ranked 15th in the world and is bang in form so perhaps he just underestimated him - from the reviews I've seen, looks like Andy was well below his recent standards
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on January 26, 2009, 19:26:07 PM
Useless Scottish twat! :P ;).
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Bez on January 27, 2009, 08:40:54 AM
still not lived up to potential - he's just lost to someone I've never heard of - very disappointing result.

to be fair its his 1st loss of any kind for a good long time....However, I did snigger...
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Topper on January 30, 2009, 13:16:32 PM
The guy who beat Murray, Fernando Verdasco, has made it to the the semi-finals of the Aussie Open and just a minute ago has taken Nadal into a 5th set. Live on Eurosport right now.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Dixkot on February 15, 2009, 17:43:44 PM


Andy Murray claimed his third successive victory over world number one Rafael Nadal to win the World Tennis Tournament in Rotterdam. (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/tennis/7891311.stm)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: NeilP on February 15, 2009, 17:46:19 PM
Good win, shame that Nadal was injured and Murray acknowledged it, but he's looking good atm.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Bez on March 02, 2009, 11:00:11 AM
Murray has dropped out of the Davis Cup team this weekend with a "virus"
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: NeilP on March 03, 2009, 08:04:32 AM
Murray has dropped out of the Davis Cup team this weekend with a "virus"

ah, he's learning fast. ::)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Dixkot on April 05, 2009, 19:58:09 PM


Murray wins Miami Masters title (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/tennis/7983446.stm)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Norwegian on May 05, 2009, 20:53:44 PM
I prefer womens tennis....

http://sportsbybrooks.com/17-year-old-simona-halep-is-shot-jaw-dropper-23512
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: NeilP on May 05, 2009, 23:03:35 PM
jeez...

(http://images.sportsbybrooks.com/6/f/6f730fc752a3ac909487d0c8414ce412_simonahalep.jpg)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Dixkot on May 05, 2009, 23:33:20 PM


hubba hubba
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on May 06, 2009, 13:16:37 PM
jeez...

(http://images.sportsbybrooks.com/6/f/6f730fc752a3ac909487d0c8414ce412_simonahalep.jpg)

'kin hell....
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Andy42g on May 26, 2009, 14:52:12 PM
Crikey.  :o
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Topper on May 26, 2009, 15:17:18 PM
Crikey.  :o

Those might be bigger than 42g ;) ;D.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Red Star on May 26, 2009, 15:19:36 PM
She's very young to have falsies. :-\
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Andy42g on May 26, 2009, 16:17:18 PM
She's very young to have falsies. :-\
Eh? I read somewhere she's having them reduced. Can't blame her - not the ideal physique for tennis. I imagine at 14 or something, with a great sporting career ahead of her those things sprouted and she had to start looking for scaffolding.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Red Star on May 26, 2009, 19:05:28 PM
Crikey, they look false to me! :o
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Andy42g on May 26, 2009, 19:12:00 PM
Crikey, they look false to me! :o
All that dining on honeydew seems to have affected your vision.  ::)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Dixkot on June 01, 2009, 21:20:12 PM


Nadal out.  Federer struggled to a 5 set win.  Can Murray take advantage ?
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: NeilP on June 01, 2009, 22:27:57 PM

Nadal out.  Federer struggled to a 5 set win.  Can Murray take advantage?

perhaps....


until you piped up Richard ;)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: andyhaines on June 01, 2009, 22:30:47 PM
perhaps....


until you piped up Richard ;)
::) ;D
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Andy42g on June 02, 2009, 09:08:57 AM
Tough one for Murray against Gonzalez this afternoon. Fingers crossed. (Hurrah for BBC live internet streaming.)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: NeilP on June 02, 2009, 18:15:13 PM
perhaps....


until you piped up Richard ;)

I did warn (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/tennis/8076679.stm) you Officer :-\
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on June 02, 2009, 19:54:55 PM
Clay is not his best surface, and i think the US open is his best chance of winning a grand slam.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: NeilP on June 02, 2009, 19:57:24 PM
Clay is not his best surface, and i think the US open is his best chance of winning a grand slam.

if Nadal isn't there....


He's good but not quite there atm
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on June 02, 2009, 20:01:51 PM
if Nadal isn't there....


He's good but not quite there atm

Anyway mate, never mind this, set a football question so we can keep our monopoly of that thread going ;).
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: döm on June 02, 2009, 20:02:43 PM
I see he lost to Russell Brand today.  Ballbags!!!
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Dixkot on June 02, 2009, 21:48:44 PM


Ooops.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Dixkot on June 02, 2009, 21:49:49 PM
Ballbags!!!

Murray, Gonzales, Brand or us?   ::) ;)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: döm on June 02, 2009, 21:52:24 PM
Murray, Gonzales, Brand or us?   ::) ;)
Take your pick ;D - I was referring to the result though  ;)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Dixkot on June 13, 2009, 22:22:59 PM


Murray was immense today with a great victory to be in tomorrow's final.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: NeilP on June 13, 2009, 22:26:52 PM
you can't resist jinxing him Dix, can you?
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Dixkot on June 13, 2009, 22:29:23 PM
you can't resist jinxing him Dix, can you?

 :-X

 :-X

 ::)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on June 14, 2009, 09:29:53 AM
He should beat Blake in todays final.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: NeilP on June 14, 2009, 10:06:45 AM
he'd rather lose and win the next tournament I reckon.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: döm on June 14, 2009, 14:25:29 PM
Great chance for him to win wimbloedon this year, especially with Nadal out.  He hsd the beating of Federer, that's for sure
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: NeilP on June 14, 2009, 20:15:30 PM
Great chance for him to win wimbloedon this year, especially with Nadal out. 

Has he withdrawn?
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Dixkot on June 14, 2009, 20:24:35 PM


Last I read he was injured and 'doubtful' for Wimbledon.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Dixkot on June 14, 2009, 20:25:31 PM


A good win for Murray today.  He looked delighted.  Excellent preparation for Wimbledon.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Slim on June 14, 2009, 23:36:15 PM
I think there's a chance Nadal will compete at Wimbledon and even if he doesn't Federer is more likely to capitalise on that, but fingers crossed anyway.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on June 15, 2009, 12:58:18 PM
Where as we used to say WILL Henman win a grand slam, with Murray, it's WHEN will he win one?
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: NeilP on June 15, 2009, 13:18:34 PM
Wimbledon will be difficult to win for him.
I've always thought his best chance was the US Open
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: döm on June 15, 2009, 19:11:11 PM
Has he withdrawn?

Sorry I didn't phrase that very well, should have said IF he was out.  Even if he does play his prep will hardly be up to scratch though. 

From looking at Murray at Queen's he looks like he has the game for grass too.  His serving is excellent and his volleying pretty spot on too.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Dixkot on June 15, 2009, 22:51:15 PM


http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/tennis/8100478.stm
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Dixkot on June 23, 2009, 20:19:32 PM


A good win for Murray against an opponent who played way above his usual standard.  Murray was never in any real danger and seldom had to come out of 2nd gear.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Pudders on June 23, 2009, 20:59:15 PM

A good win for Murray against an opponent who played way above his usual standard.  Murray was never in any real danger and seldom had to come out of 2nd gear.

I'm not sure about that - at one point he was nearly downgraded from British to Scottish ;)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Muppet on June 23, 2009, 21:35:21 PM
I'm not sure about that - at one point he was nearly downgraded from British to Scottish ;)
:D Very good


Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Dixkot on June 23, 2009, 22:01:01 PM
Paisley's own ( ;) ) Elena Baltacha powers into the 3rd round with a win against a player ranked 73 places above her.
Title: The Andy Murray Thread
Post by: Topper on June 23, 2009, 22:06:59 PM
Paisley's own ( ;) ) Elena Baltacha powers into the 3rd round with a win against a player ranked 73 places above her.

Great win but isn't she just into the 2nd round?...
Title: Re: .
Post by: Dixkot on June 23, 2009, 22:09:29 PM
Great win but isn't she just into the 2nd round?...

 ::)

Ooops
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: döm on June 23, 2009, 22:10:33 PM
Paisley's own ( ;) ) Elena Baltacha powers into the 3rd round with a win against a player ranked 73 places above her.

So when she wins she's Scottish, she loses, Ukranian  ;D
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Dixkot on June 23, 2009, 22:23:24 PM
So when she wins she's Scottish, she loses, Ukranian  ;D

Yip  ;D
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Dixkot on June 23, 2009, 22:47:49 PM


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/8102822.stm

;D
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: snodes on June 23, 2009, 23:39:08 PM
"It was originally played with the hand until the 16th Century, when they decided a racket was more powerful".

THAT'S how they should settle tie breaks! :D
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Dixkot on June 25, 2009, 21:09:33 PM


Pretty clinical from Murray today in a win he made look very easy.  His serving was superb all match.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Dixkot on June 27, 2009, 19:48:00 PM

Pretty clinical from Murray today in a win he made look very easy.  His serving was superb all match.

And again today.  No contest really.  Brilliant tennis.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: NeilP on June 27, 2009, 20:48:26 PM
he's on form for sure - what could possibly go wrong? ::)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on June 28, 2009, 10:15:29 AM
he's on form for sure - what could possibly go wrong? ::)
One word - Federer.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Andy42g on June 29, 2009, 20:02:38 PM
Jeez - he's making a bit of a meal of this one.  :D
A set each though - he seems to have got going now.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: NeilP on June 29, 2009, 20:16:00 PM
tough game it seems
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Dixkot on June 29, 2009, 21:05:09 PM


He seemed a bit lethargic at first and Wawrlinka was playing superb.  Murray looks like he's got the beating of him now though.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Andy42g on June 29, 2009, 21:18:30 PM

He seemed a bit lethargic at first and Wawrlinka was playing superb.  Murray looks like he's got the beating of him now though.
Maybe. He's as bad as Tim Henman. Can't we just have someone who wins properly?  :D
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Lucy on June 29, 2009, 22:42:53 PM
woo hoo- although that was nail biting ! It's just finished and it's 10.40! blimey!
Not great tennis but very dramatic and Andy reacted like he had just won the Championship.
Murrray has to get more first serves in, but well done to him.
I bet the Beeb's ratings have gone through the roof tonight...the shiny new Centre Court roof...
 ::) ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: NeilP on June 29, 2009, 23:20:50 PM
good TV I thought, well done Andy Murray!!
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Pudders on June 29, 2009, 23:33:12 PM
Well, I don't know of it was great tennis, but it was great tennis match to watch...............especially down the pub where you had popped 'for a pint' at one set all on the promise you'd return when the match finished ;D

Hic!
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on June 29, 2009, 23:34:04 PM
great stuff..well done Murray... nice g/f btw :)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: NeilP on June 29, 2009, 23:38:42 PM
great stuff..well done Murray... nice g/f btw :)

wonder what she sees in him - looks, personality or £3.6 million?

BTW, would Hassan? ::)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Pudders on June 29, 2009, 23:56:49 PM
BTW, would Hassan? ::)

Yep! (we should start a poll.....)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on June 30, 2009, 04:48:51 AM
A good test like that will put him in better stead, and he was made to work hard for that win.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on June 30, 2009, 06:04:08 AM
wonder what she sees in him - looks, personality or £3.6 million?

BTW, would Hassan? ::)

oh i think so...

(http://www.iconocast.com/D4/N8/News9_8.jpg)


i would...:)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Dixkot on June 30, 2009, 09:44:57 AM


Indeed it was a great match to watch.  Thought they were trying to burst the ball at times.

Zoony mentions what they said in commentary last night, that sometimes a player needs a 5 setter at this stage of a tournament to test their stamina.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Dixkot on July 01, 2009, 16:41:50 PM


Murray's beginning to overpower Ferrero.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Dixkot on July 01, 2009, 17:00:11 PM


Pretty easy in the end.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Andy42g on July 03, 2009, 16:02:29 PM
Here we go then... Roddick and that massive serve.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Pudders on July 03, 2009, 17:54:45 PM
Murray's looking like he'll be 'Scottish' again shortly ;)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Nicola B on July 03, 2009, 18:41:27 PM
Its very close.....
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Nicola B on July 03, 2009, 18:42:29 PM
Match point....
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Dixkot on July 03, 2009, 18:43:16 PM


Still hanging on
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Dixkot on July 03, 2009, 18:43:48 PM


What did I say?
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: döm on July 03, 2009, 21:29:57 PM
Hope he doesn't become the valiant failure like Henman was
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on July 03, 2009, 23:52:40 PM
a bit off that he couldn't hang on and walk off with Roddick after the game.. tosser...
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: NeilP on July 03, 2009, 23:59:13 PM
He would have been humiliated in the final this year and will be a better player for the experience, well done lad
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Pudders on July 04, 2009, 00:41:23 AM
a bit off that he couldn't hang on and walk off with Roddick after the game.. tosser...

Not sure if you noticed but he was a bit pissed off - I'll let it go on this occasion ;)

(Quite a few of the losers are leaving the courts before their victors this year - I suspect it's  deemed 'acceptable' by the authorities to do so these days.)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Pudders on July 04, 2009, 00:42:46 AM
He'd would have been humiliated in the final this year and will be a better player for the experience, well done lad

Agreed. Might do him a big favour to win one of the other Slam's, away from the pressure of Wimbledon, as well.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on July 04, 2009, 09:43:41 AM
Not sure if you noticed but he was a bit pissed off - I'll let it go on this occasion ;)



yes i'm sure he was.. just came across as being a bad loser...
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Slim on July 04, 2009, 12:11:25 PM
He's only 22. He's got 6 or 7 more goes at it. Federer is already past his peak. Nadal is probably the biggest obstacle.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Slim on July 04, 2009, 17:39:03 PM
Hope he doesn't become the valiant failure like Henman was

I don't think Henman was a failure, really. He wasn't a champion, but he only seemed like a failure when considered against the expectations that were heaped upon him by virtue of him being the only slender hope of British success at Wimbledon.

I think of it like this - we don't think of (say) Everton as being a football club failure, despite there being little chance of them winning the league. But they very soon would be seen in that light if they had to carry the entire weight of a nation's expectations on their shoulders.

if I took up tennis tomorrow I'd be quite chuffed with making it to a Wimbledon semi-final :)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: NeilP on July 04, 2009, 17:57:50 PM
But Everton have won the league championship, FA Cups and European silverware many times I think. What did Tim win?
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on July 04, 2009, 18:37:18 PM
Murrays time will come though, he has time on his side, and it will probably be at the US open as opposed to Wimbledon, as i think the surface suits him better.

Still see no reason to change my mind after yesterday. Murray and Roddick on the same side of the net together are still not good enough to beat Federer on grass.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: jarvo on July 04, 2009, 19:42:31 PM
Should have had money on roddick the bookies were being generous for once 11/4 just to win
8/1 for 3-1
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Slim on July 04, 2009, 21:33:10 PM
But Everton have won the league championship, FA Cups and European silverware many times I think. What did Tim win?

OK, but you've stretched the analogy a bit far, there. Football clubs don't wear out in a few years like tennis players do.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on July 05, 2009, 17:04:13 PM
Murray and Roddick on the same side of the net together are still not good enough to beat Federer on grass.

I take my hat off to Roddick at the moment, pushing Federer all the way, and into a 5th set now.

Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: döm on July 05, 2009, 21:27:45 PM
I don't think Henman was a failure, really. He wasn't a champion, but he only seemed like a failure when considered against the expectations that were heaped upon him by virtue of him being the only slender hope of British success at Wimbledon.

I think of it like this - we don't think of (say) Everton as being a football club failure, despite there being little chance of them winning the league. But they very soon would be seen in that light if they had to carry the entire weight of a nation's expectations on their shoulders.

if I took up tennis tomorrow I'd be quite chuffed with making it to a Wimbledon semi-final :)

Granted he wasn't a failure at tennis as such.  He made a very profitable living at it after all.  He was a failure (albeit a valiant one)  at winning major championships though. i hope the same doesn't happen with Murray, and he actually lives up to the hype and expectation.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: döm on August 14, 2009, 23:29:27 PM
Tsonga beats Federer from being 5 - 1 down in the final set.  Will meet Murray in the semis in Canada.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Muppet on August 17, 2009, 00:47:31 AM
Now world No 2, splitting Federer and Nadal.  Impressive rise, he may make No 1 yet
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Andy42g on January 26, 2010, 10:38:59 AM
Ausie Open 2010. He's doing well against Nadal so far...
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on January 26, 2010, 11:15:39 AM
and two sets up for Murray..(second on the tie break..)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Dixkot on January 26, 2010, 11:32:32 AM
and two sets up for Murray..(second on the tie break..)

He's playing some great tennis.  Nadal beginning to look for an excuse ( oh ma knee !).  A sure sign he's getting worried.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on January 26, 2010, 11:37:26 AM
1135: ANDY MURRAY INTO AUSTRALIAN OPEN SEMI-FINALS AFTER RAFAEL NADAL RETIRES BECAUSE OF INJURY

Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Dixkot on January 26, 2010, 11:50:44 AM


Excellent.  Well done Murray !!
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Andy42g on January 26, 2010, 14:12:11 PM
Yeah, well done Andy. He played really well and Nadal was nowhere near him for the two sets he competed.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Red Star on January 26, 2010, 14:44:45 PM
Yeah, well done Andy. He played really well and Nadal was nowhere near him for the two sets he competed.

Yes but surely Nadal was not at his best if he had to retire through injury? Still he goes through to the semis and thats all that matters.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on January 28, 2010, 09:58:07 AM
Murray 3-6 2-2* Cilic..oh dear
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on January 28, 2010, 10:26:45 AM
Murray 3-6 6-4 0-0* Cilic  better :)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on January 28, 2010, 11:10:33 AM
Murray 3-6 6-4 6-4 0-0* Cilic
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on January 28, 2010, 11:46:44 AM
brilliant...

1143: ANDY MURRAY THROUGH TO AUSTRALIAN OPEN FINAL

Murray 3-6 6-4 6-4 6-2 Cilic
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Andy42g on January 28, 2010, 11:47:35 AM
Yup, he's in the final. Excellent stuff.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: NeilP on January 28, 2010, 16:13:05 PM
well done AM, a true brit! ;)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: JonL on January 29, 2010, 21:15:37 PM
well done AM, a true brit! ;)

Only if he wins. If he loses, he's Scottish.
I'll be watching with high hopes.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: NeilP on January 31, 2010, 11:34:54 AM
ah well, brave effort by Murray. Some critical big points went Federer's way and that was that
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Red Star on January 31, 2010, 11:55:00 AM
He blew it in the third set and then in the tie break. He had plenty of chances to take that set to go 2-1 but he was looking knackered and even if he had managed to take that third set, I think Federer would have steam rollered him in the forth.

Good effort though, and more lessons learned from the Master.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: rufus the dawg on February 01, 2010, 10:51:57 AM
out played RF is on another planet
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Red Star on June 27, 2010, 12:38:45 PM
I see Murray siad in his latest press conference that he wants England to win todays game - who is he trying to kid? He must think we are all stupid or have very short memories. LOL! ;)

A rather pathetic attempt to curry favour with the partisan wimbledon crowd.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: döm on June 27, 2010, 14:41:51 PM
I see Murray siad in his latest press conference that he wants England to win todays game - who is he trying to kid? He must think we are all stupid or have very short memories. LOL! ;)

A rather pathetic attempt to curry favour with the partisan wimbledon crowd.

All he really needs to do is to let his tennis do the talking.  He was on blistering, breathtaking form yesterday. That should be enough
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: JonL on June 27, 2010, 17:55:16 PM
I see Murray siad in his latest press conference that he wants England to win todays game - who is he trying to kid? He must think we are all stupid or have very short memories. LOL! ;)

A rather pathetic attempt to curry favour with the partisan wimbledon crowd.

Did he bring it up, or was it another moronic journo trying to whip up a storm like last time?
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Red Star on June 27, 2010, 19:01:27 PM
Did he bring it up, or was it another moronic journo trying to whip up a storm like last time?

Not sure, but I'd have had much more respect for him if he'd have answered honestly and said 'anyone but England'
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Pricey on July 02, 2010, 18:42:50 PM
When is British Tennis going to seriously look at the funding of perpetual Wimbledon failure Andy Murray ?
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: NeilP on July 02, 2010, 18:45:04 PM
I notice that Beckham was there - he's not a lucky mascot for us is he?
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: JonL on July 02, 2010, 19:45:32 PM
When is British Tennis going to seriously look at the funding of perpetual Wimbledon failure Andy Murray ?

I don't understand this attitude.

He played the world number 1 and was outclassed, there's notghing unusual or shameful about that.
Don't blame Murray for 75 years of nothing.

Just like with football, the whole game, from kids up to Murray and beyond needs to be rethought.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Dixkot on July 02, 2010, 19:50:22 PM


Hardly a great failure.

Seeded 4, so losing semi-finalist proves the seeding system works.

It is a disappointment thought.  To many errors by Murray today, but Nadal was quite brilliant at times.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: döm on July 02, 2010, 20:32:41 PM
Good game and Murray had a pretty good tournament.  I hope the LTA isn't funding him though.  Surely he earns enough money on the circuit to fund himself ?
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Analog RH on July 02, 2010, 20:45:23 PM
Not sure, but I'd have had much more respect for him if he'd have answered honestly and said 'anyone but England'

From Wikipedia:

Murray identifies himself primarily as "Scottish, but also British". Prior to Wimbledon 2006, Murray caused some public debate when he was quoted as saying he would "support anyone but England" at the 2006 World Cup. He received large amounts of hate mail on his website as a result. It was also reported (incorrectly, it turned out) that Murray had worn a Paraguay shirt on the day of England's World Cup match with the South American team.

Murray explained that his comments were said in jest during a light-hearted interview with sports columnist Des Kelly, who asked him if he would be supporting Scotland in the World Cup, in the knowledge that Scotland had failed to qualify for the tournament. Kelly stated another tabloid had later "lifted a couple of [the comments] into a 'story' that took on a life of its own and from there the truth was lost" and that he despaired over the "nonsensical criticism".

Murray protested that he is "not anti-English and never was" and he expressed disappointment over England's subsequent elimination by Portugal. In an interview with Nicky Campbell on BBC Radio 5 Live, Tim Henman confirmed that the remarks had been made in jest and were only in response to Murray being teased by Kelly and Henman. He also stated that the rumour that Murray had worn a Paraguay shirt was untrue.

In an interview with Gabby Logan for the BBC's Inside Sport programme, Murray said that he was both Scottish and British and was comfortable and happy with his British identity. He said he saw no conflict between the two and was equally proud of them. He has also pointed out that he is quarter English with some of his family originating from Newcastle, his coach is Scottish and that his girlfriend, Kim Sears, is English.

Murray was often seen donning wristbands bearing the insignia of the flag of Scotland in his early career. However, this has since ceased.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Slim on July 03, 2010, 14:54:14 PM
In what sense would you like to see them "look at" it? I don't see him as a failure at all. He is one of the best handful of players in the world, and he has a chance of winning a grand slam or two in his career. He's the only hope British tennis has of doing that, in fact.

I think it's unlikely on balance that he'll ever be a Wimbledon champion, though. We won't be able to make the excuse that he's not yet at his best much longer, and in any case - if you look at most Wimbledon champions, the majority of them have started to win the big tournaments in their early '20s.

Just checked and every single Wimbledon mens' champion since Arthur Ashe in 1975, with the exception of Isanisevic in 2001, was younger than Murray when they won their first grand slam. That was the only grand slam that Isanisevic ever won.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: JonL on July 03, 2010, 16:58:01 PM
Just checked and every single Wimbledon mens' champion since Arthur Ashe in 1975, with the exception of Isanisevic in 2001, was younger than Murray when they won their first grand slam. That was the only grand slam that Isanisevic ever won.
Interesting fact, and quite telling.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: döm on July 03, 2010, 18:15:26 PM
That is interesting - the only thing I would say that might give some hope to Murray fans is that he put a lot of work into the physical side after he first broke through as a contender.  he was a little underdeveloped physically compared to other players at his level and age so he may still have hope.  Just like Henman though, with each year that goes by, it does becomes less likely.  And he will never be able to match the physical presence of Nadal or Federer.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: NeilP on July 03, 2010, 22:49:48 PM
He just needs to improve a little and he'll probably win it - Nadal wont last forever with those
knees and the effort he puts into the game.

It's mostly quality of return and first serve percentages that separates the winners from losers
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Slim on July 04, 2010, 10:45:56 AM
He just needs to improve a little and he'll probably win it - Nadal wont last forever with those knees and the effort he puts into the game.

Yes, but by that time, a few younger players will have entered the frame, and one or more of them will probably prevent Murray from winning Wimbledon. I think that's the lesson of the statistics, anyway.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: NeilP on July 04, 2010, 11:26:58 AM
To win these tournaments nowadays probably mean that you have to be better than anyone else has ever been as standards rise!!
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Red Star on July 04, 2010, 11:46:19 AM
Murray explained that his comments were said in jest

Many a true word spoken in jest, but good attempt to convince otherwise.

Murray reminds me of Henman in that he can beat the best players ie Federer, Nadal et al in the lesser tournaments but never in a Grand Slam when it actually matters a great deal more.

I can't see him ever winning the pinnacle of Grand Slams that is Wimbledon.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: NeilP on July 04, 2010, 12:37:57 PM
Chris - he's beaten Nadal in two Grand Slam events, Australian and US Opens
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Red Star on July 04, 2010, 14:45:32 PM
Chris - he's beaten Nadal in two Grand Slam events, Australian and US Opens

Ok Neil, I stand corrected re Nadal - he just can't beat him at Wimbledon then! (thus far but doubt he ever will if Nadal is fit)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Prof jnr on July 04, 2010, 23:58:07 PM
Ok Neil, I stand corrected re Nadal - he just can't beat him at Wimbledon then! (thus far but doubt he ever will if Nadal is fit)

Nadal won't stay fit for ever. His knees will no doubt give him bother again. If this does happen, then hopefully Murray can take full advantage.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Dixkot on August 14, 2010, 22:01:22 PM


And Murray beats Nadal in straight sets in the semi-finals of the Rogers Cup in Toronto.

WELL DONE.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Prof jnr on August 14, 2010, 23:32:23 PM
Congratulations to him  :). Would rather he'd beaten Nadal at Wimbledon though, but it's good going nonetheless. :)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Dixkot on August 15, 2010, 22:30:31 PM


And he beats Federer in straight sets to win the title !!
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: NeilP on August 15, 2010, 23:40:13 PM
great win for the Brit ;)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Red Star on August 16, 2010, 08:48:15 AM
He seems to be able to do this with ease in these lesser tournaments, yet when he meets either at Wimbledon it's always a completely different story.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: NeilP on August 16, 2010, 09:37:37 AM
maybe grass isn't his best playing surface?
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Red Star on August 16, 2010, 12:40:48 PM
maybe grass isn't his best playing surface?

You could be right Neil, but to these eyes he seems very comfortable on grass up until he faces either Nadal or Federer on the other side of the net. Also, he has never beaten either in a grand slam final has he?

Maybe he is a 'bottler' when it really matters?
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: NeilP on August 16, 2010, 19:46:36 PM
I wish his mother would stop following him around tbh
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Chris Quartly on August 17, 2010, 11:14:03 AM
Oh dear :P

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xT74EJ8vbw
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Static_Caravan on August 17, 2010, 12:03:45 PM
Oh dear :P

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xT74EJ8vbw

FFS!!! Dreadful.....it'll be a sure fire "winner".   
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Bez on August 17, 2010, 14:14:15 PM
Oh dear :P

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xT74EJ8vbw

Sums the cnut up nicely....
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Red Star on August 17, 2010, 16:00:58 PM
James Corden played a clip of this when A.M. was a guest on one of his world cup shows. Muray was suitable mortified and so he should be. What on earth was he thinking!
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: döm on August 17, 2010, 16:13:24 PM
James Corden played a clip of this when A.M. was a guest on one of his world cup shows. Muray was suitable mortified and so he should be. What on earth was he thinking!

To go on a show with James Cordon?  Unbelievable ;)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Red Star on August 17, 2010, 16:23:58 PM
To go on a show with James Cordon?  Unbelievable ;)

Quite! ;D
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on August 17, 2010, 16:30:24 PM
To go on a show with James Cordon?  Unbelievable ;)
well at least Murray was out c***ed by that unfuuny c***...
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Chris Quartly on August 17, 2010, 16:45:25 PM
Yeah, I hate James Cordon, I have to jump in and say I didn't hear of it from that! They played it on some quiz show on the BBC the other day.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: GlezgaRed on August 31, 2010, 01:04:21 AM
Evening match for Murray later tonight !!

Elena Baltacha bt Petra Martic (6-2, 6-2) in the first round of the US Open.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Red Star on September 06, 2010, 08:41:54 AM
Another monotone drone of an interview as Murray exits the US Open in the 3rd round to Stanislas Wawrinka. This is his earliest defeat at a slam since being beaten at the same stage of the French Open in 2008.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: NeilP on September 06, 2010, 08:48:45 AM
It was a good game to watch, Wawrinka played well, not sure what Murray did wrong tbh but he definitely seems to need a coach and I'd advise a word in his mother's ear to stop turning up all the time.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Red Star on September 06, 2010, 09:14:49 AM
I'd advise a word in his mother's ear to stop turning up all the time.

It's certainly offputting for spectators.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on September 08, 2010, 20:52:07 PM
Another year gone, and Murray is still to win a grand slam. There's always something to cheer you up  ;).
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on September 10, 2010, 10:25:37 AM
i'm sure this will help

 (http://resources3.news.com.au/images/2009/09/02/1225768/816551-kim-sears-girlfriend-of-andy-murray.jpg)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: NeilP on September 10, 2010, 10:46:57 AM
no wonder he's always injured.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on September 10, 2010, 21:20:45 PM
no wonder he's always injured.

The pratt never smiles though!
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Blastzone on September 11, 2010, 10:17:48 AM
The pratt never smiles though!

Would you if you supported Hibs? ;)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Dixkot on October 17, 2010, 10:53:47 AM


He's giving Federer a bit of a tennis lesson at the moment.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: NeilP on October 17, 2010, 11:08:07 AM
Well done Murray!
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Dixkot on October 17, 2010, 11:08:55 AM

Lesson over 6-3 6-2 win for Murray.  An absolute doing.

Why can't he do that in a Grand Slam?

Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on October 17, 2010, 14:20:29 PM


Why can't he do that in a Grand Slam?

Because the other top players raise their games for those mate.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Red Star on October 18, 2010, 19:29:38 PM
Why can't he do that in a Grand Slam?

Because it's a Grand Slam and it matters, whereas this doesn't.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: döm on October 18, 2010, 19:46:04 PM
Because it's a Grand Slam and it matters, whereas this doesn't.

That's a bit harsh.  A Master's tournament is still a significant one, not as big as a grand slam, but to say it doesn't matter is unfair, I think.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Red Star on October 18, 2010, 19:53:41 PM
That's a bit harsh.  A Master's tournament is still a significant one, not as big as a grand slam, but to say it doesn't matter is unfair, I think.

Yeah ok, I am being it bit harsh but there is a definite pattern where Murray can beat Federer and Nadal EXCEPT when he comes up againt them in a Grand Slam. It makes me wonder if his opponents place the same emphasis on winning these lesser tournaments, or maybe Murray just bottles it when it REALLY matters.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Dixkot on October 18, 2010, 22:58:07 PM
or maybe Murray just bottles it when it REALLY matters.

I think that's it in a nutshell.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: döm on November 13, 2010, 20:17:23 PM
Nice to see Monfils continue his good form after beating Murray in the Quarters by beating Federer in the semis.  Tight match though 7-6 6-7 7-6
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Dods on January 12, 2011, 14:02:51 PM
Yeah ok, I am being it bit harsh but there is a definite pattern where Murray can beat Federer and Nadal EXCEPT when he comes up againt them in a Grand Slam. It makes me wonder if his opponents place the same emphasis on winning these lesser tournaments, or maybe Murray just bottles it when it REALLY matters.
Well it's almost time to find out again....

Come on Andy, you can do it  :)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Digital Matt on January 12, 2011, 20:37:08 PM
This thread holds a lot of negative comments about Murray. The way I see it, you can't fail to respect his ability, determination and mental stength to succeed. It,s only a matter of time before he wins a Grand Slam tournament. He's a real TRYER sets an example that other sports men and women can only be inspired by. Money wise, his earnings last year were £13,000,000 putting him No 7 in world tennis earners, ( 8th biggest British sports earner behind the likes of Beckham, Rooney , Owen , Harrington , McDowell ). I agree that he is 'dead pan' and when interviewed he is hardly engaging. As with all sportsmen, it's the results that count and Murray is up there with the best.
Give him a break and get into his PSYCHE!       
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on January 12, 2011, 20:53:34 PM
It,s only a matter of time before he wins a Grand Slam tournament.     

I thought that, but it's still to happen. It used to be said of Tim Henman as well...
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Red Star on January 13, 2011, 22:58:06 PM
As with all sportsmen, it's the results that count and Murray is up there with the best.
 

Not yet he isn't - Nadal and Federer have won Grand Slams.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Digital Matt on January 20, 2011, 23:21:23 PM
Not yet he isn't - Nadal and Federer have won Grand Slams.
They have.
Today , Murray has won his 2nd round match quite nicely.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Dods on January 26, 2011, 12:59:57 PM
Today , Murray has won his 2nd round match quite nicely.
Today Andy Murray has won his quarter-final, losing his only set of the tournament so far.

Ferrer to play Murray in the semi-final.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Red Star on January 27, 2011, 08:51:33 AM
Today Andy Murray has won his quarter-final, losing his only set of the tournament so far.

Ferrer to play Murray in the semi-final.

Could this be his best opportunity to date to nail a slam title? He's surely favourite to beat Ferrer isn't he?
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: NeilP on January 27, 2011, 09:17:01 AM
No, Ferrer has a winning record against him.
Also, the winner will have less that a day to rest til the final, whereas the winner of Federer/Djokovic will have two days!
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Red Star on January 27, 2011, 10:17:59 AM
No, Ferrer has a winning record against him.
Also, the winner will have less that a day to rest til the final, whereas the winner of Federer/Djokovic will have two days!

You don't sound too optimistic for his chances then Neil?
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: NeilP on January 27, 2011, 10:27:38 AM
He's playing well and I think he can get to the final.... if his match goes to a tough 5 setter, he'll have little chance imo. I hope I'm wrong though and would be great if he can win the lot!
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Red Star on January 27, 2011, 10:39:35 AM
He's playing well and I think he can get to the final.... if his match goes to a tough 5 setter, he'll have little chance imo. I hope I'm wrong though and would be great if he can win the lot!

I bet he'd still be as dull in his press conference though! :-\
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: NeilP on January 27, 2011, 11:10:53 AM
.... it seems to have some rewards though

(http://resources3.news.com.au/images/2009/09/02/1225768/816551-kim-sears-girlfriend-of-andy-murray.jpg)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Red Star on January 27, 2011, 11:26:57 AM
Yep, she'd get a game alright! ;D
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Dods on January 27, 2011, 15:14:59 PM
Some performance by Djokovic this morning, looking good. Federer did not seem to have an answer for his power (he's affa noisy like).

Ferrer also playing well.

Andy Murray will need to be at the top of his game if he wants to get this slam despite the top two seeds being out. 
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Slim on January 27, 2011, 16:13:46 PM
I bet he'd still be as dull in his press conference though! :-\

Well, he's a dour Scot. If he wins though, he'll be upgraded to plucky Brit 8)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on January 27, 2011, 22:33:13 PM
whatever happens in the morning, it'll be the first grand slam final in two years that hasn't featured either Federer or Nadal.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Spud on January 27, 2011, 23:18:40 PM
.... it seems to have some rewards though

(http://resources3.news.com.au/images/2009/09/02/1225768/816551-kim-sears-girlfriend-of-andy-murray.jpg)

I'd smash it.....er i mean hang out of the back of it....er, er, shit...

Yeah, she's ok i suppose
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Dods on January 27, 2011, 23:55:22 PM
Well, he's a dour Scot. If he wins though, he'll be upgraded to plucky Brit 8)
Indeed  ::)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: GlezgaRed on January 28, 2011, 02:25:22 AM
He'll blow it later this morning, just have a bad feeling about it !!!
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: NeilP on January 28, 2011, 09:29:45 AM
he's trying his best to atm
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Andy42g on January 28, 2011, 09:47:49 AM
Hmmm - set down in the semi.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: NeilP on January 28, 2011, 09:58:33 AM
Ferrer seems to have his game sussed atm, with Murray moaning to the Umpire during the breaks.

Pretty dull to watch too
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Nicola B on January 28, 2011, 10:28:08 AM
Ferrer just seems more up for it than Murray, although Murray is getting better. He has made far too many unforced errors.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Nicola B on January 28, 2011, 10:40:41 AM
Looks like 2nd set to Murray...
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Andy42g on January 28, 2011, 10:43:00 AM
Got it. Welll done Andy lad.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: NeilP on January 28, 2011, 10:47:59 AM
one set each, far from convincing still
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Dods on January 28, 2011, 10:52:18 AM
He has made far too many unforced errors.
Bang on Nicola, but he did manage to dig in for the second.

Must improve
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: NeilP on January 28, 2011, 10:55:31 AM
he does swear like a good Scot tho'
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Dods on January 28, 2011, 11:04:21 AM
he does swear like a good Scot tho'
Yes, we are a bit too good at that
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Andy42g on January 28, 2011, 11:24:19 AM
Game on.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: NeilP on January 28, 2011, 11:25:20 AM
Djokovic must be loving this whilst putting his feet up
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Nicola B on January 28, 2011, 11:31:27 AM
Murray has certainly up'd his game in the last 10 minutes...
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Slim on January 28, 2011, 11:34:39 AM
Seems to have taken control now. Nice.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Dods on January 28, 2011, 11:46:41 AM
Seems to have taken control now. Nice.
Blast, Ferrer battles back  :(

Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Red Star on January 28, 2011, 11:47:39 AM
From 2 games to love up in the 4th set and looking in control, he is now 3-2 down.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Andy42g on January 28, 2011, 11:57:07 AM
Murray is just toying with him - giving the crowd their money's worth...  :-\
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: NeilP on January 28, 2011, 11:58:58 AM
Murray looks like he's blowing a bit to me, if he loses this set he'll be in big trouble
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: döm on January 28, 2011, 12:09:08 PM
Murray looks like he's blowing a bit to me, if he loses this set he'll be in big trouble

I'd still say he'd win this one but it would make things that bit tougher for the final
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Andy42g on January 28, 2011, 12:17:20 PM
Getting to the pointy end now. great match.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Dods on January 28, 2011, 12:21:15 PM
Tie-break

Don't see it being as straight forward as the first one though
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Dods on January 28, 2011, 12:29:17 PM
Tie-break

Don't see it being as straight forward as the first one though
Ok, I was thankfully wrong  :)

Well done lad
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Andy42g on January 28, 2011, 12:29:31 PM
Brilliant.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: NeilP on January 28, 2011, 12:29:45 PM
Well played to the Scot! 8)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on January 28, 2011, 12:38:46 PM
Two foreigners contesting the Australian open final then. What's the big deal?  ;).
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on January 28, 2011, 14:46:45 PM
well done Murray..:)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: JonL on January 28, 2011, 15:19:00 PM
I take it that's a plucky Brit in the final then.

Good news.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Bez on January 28, 2011, 15:43:02 PM
well done Murray, you're still a cock though....
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on January 28, 2011, 22:47:10 PM
well done Murray, you're still a cock though....

Yep, that sums it up mate.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on January 29, 2011, 00:02:54 AM
Hope you lose Murray, you complete and utter British Cock.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Blastzone on January 29, 2011, 04:12:29 AM
Give us a win Andy boy
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Dixkot on January 29, 2011, 10:42:10 AM
Give us a win Andy boy

Agreed !!!


04:12 Gordon?  The 21st party was good then?  ;)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Blastzone on January 29, 2011, 12:26:28 PM
Agreed !!!


04:12 Gordon?  The 21st party was good then?  ;)

Just got  up Dix.
Jaysus what a night :o
Hope yours was good too....thanks again for the invite
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on January 30, 2011, 09:32:13 AM
This could be a long one 4-4 in the first so far
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: NeilP on January 30, 2011, 09:49:05 AM
one set down, he needs to improve his first serve to compete with Djokovic
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Red Star on January 30, 2011, 09:58:58 AM
Murray looking very tired and his game is littered with unforced errors.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: NeilP on January 30, 2011, 10:06:18 AM
yep, I really do think he needs to tell his mother to 'do one' on the circuit!
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Slim on January 30, 2011, 10:25:09 AM
Heard earlier that Djokovic has only lost seventeen games in his career after winning the first set, out of about three hundred. How many of those seventeen he's lost after winning the first two sets I wouldn't like to guess, but - not many, I would think.

Time to give the engraver the nod.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: NeilP on January 30, 2011, 10:25:53 AM
quite ;)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Red Star on January 30, 2011, 10:27:45 AM
Oh dear, what a way to lose the 2nd set - another unforced error on his own serve. Murray looks beaten, a spent force. It's a very long haul back into this game now and I can't see any other conclusion than Djokavich winning in straight sets.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Red Star on January 30, 2011, 10:31:01 AM
Maybe Murray has read my last post!
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Slim on January 30, 2011, 11:22:56 AM
Perhaps a below-par performance from the dour Scot. Congratulations to the plucky Serbian.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Dods on January 30, 2011, 11:23:37 AM
Oh well  :'(
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on January 30, 2011, 11:26:48 AM
Perhaps a below-par performance from the dour Scot. Congratulations to the plucky Serbian.

I'm not going to gloat, but it does seem that like Henman, Murray just hasn't got that ability to rise to the next level and start WINNING grand slams.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Red Star on January 30, 2011, 11:33:25 AM
I'm not going to gloat, but it does seem that like Henman, Murray just hasn't got that ability to rise to the next level and start WINNING grand slams.

Well, Murray has beaten Djockavic in their last 3 meetings before today, albeit a couple of years ago. When it really matters though, ie in a Grand Slam, as per usual he chokes/bottles it or call it whatever you like. I'll take off my Serbian football shirt now. :D
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Blastzone on January 30, 2011, 14:25:42 PM
Crash..... :(
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: NeilP on January 30, 2011, 14:36:59 PM
bit one sided really but he played his best stuff to get there. He needs to lose 'stalker Mum' imho
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Red Star on January 30, 2011, 14:39:44 PM
I noticed he was putting his finger to his lips and gesturing 'sshhh' at someone in the crowd on a couple of occasions - whats that all about?
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on January 30, 2011, 16:31:34 PM
I noticed he was putting his finger to his lips and gesturing 'sshhh' at someone in the crowd on a couple of occasions - whats that all about?

Perhaps it was someone calling him a miserable twat mate?
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Blastzone on January 30, 2011, 17:23:23 PM
Perhaps it was someone calling him a miserable twat mate?

Hibs fan = miserable  ::)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on January 30, 2011, 18:11:10 PM
he was well beaten..
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on January 31, 2011, 14:23:27 PM
He needs to lose 'stalker Mum' imho
agreed.

the other thing that made me laugh was when they mentioned that he had individual bottles of water/juice whatever it is for during the breaks labeled for each set.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Dods on January 31, 2011, 19:44:52 PM
agreed.

the other thing that made me laugh was when they mentioned that he had individual bottles of water/juice whatever it is for during the breaks labeled for each set.
I suspect they are labelled simply because the content is different as the match goes on?

Aye/No?
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Thailand Express on January 31, 2011, 23:51:46 PM
The locals in Dunblane seemed to be very dejected...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQ4VQt-UZKI

Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Bez on February 03, 2011, 08:36:09 AM
Is it true that Murray was at the school when "the massacre" happened ?   :-\
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Red Star on February 03, 2011, 08:47:11 AM
Is it true that Murray was at the school when "the massacre" happened ?   :-\

Yes, i believe so Paul. I've heard that he never talks about it though.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Slim on May 26, 2011, 00:36:41 AM
Yes, but by that time, a few younger players will have entered the frame, and one or more of them will probably prevent Murray from winning Wimbledon. I think that's the lesson of the statistics, anyway.

Djokovic.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Red Star on June 03, 2011, 18:12:19 PM
and another Grand Slam eludes the Scot, beaten in straight sets.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: döm on June 03, 2011, 18:30:11 PM
and another Grand Slam eludes the Scot, beaten in straight sets.

Plus ca change.... Murray just seems to be Henman reincarnated
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on June 03, 2011, 22:22:38 PM
Shame for that punter who had £120,000 on a Nadal/Djokovic double!


Murray still not good enough, simple as.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Spud on June 03, 2011, 22:42:33 PM
Absolutely no chance of beating Nadal on clay.  No idea what the odds were but it'd be like printing money if you had it lying around.  Shame i don't!!
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on June 04, 2011, 13:46:12 PM
Absolutely no chance of beating Nadal on clay.  No idea what the odds were but it'd be like printing money if you had it lying around.  Shame i don't!!

Nadal was 1-6 mate.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Red Star on June 12, 2011, 15:46:46 PM
So, Murray destroys Roddick to book a place in the final at Queens. The cynic in me questions if he would be in the final if Federer hadn't pulled out and no Djokavic either - Nadal lost to other finalist but he was stilled knackered from winning his last slam, and lets face it, it's only a warm up tournament for Wimbledon.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on June 12, 2011, 17:41:27 PM
So, Murray destroys Roddick to book a place in the final at Queens. The cynic in me questions if he would be in the final if Federer hadn't pulled out and no Djokavic either - Nadal lost to other finalist but he was stilled knackered from winning his last slam, and lets face it, it's only a warm up tournament for Wimbledon.

Wait until it REALLY matters next month Chris, no doubt he'll go back to type  ;).
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: JonL on June 12, 2011, 22:42:12 PM
Murray just seems to be Henman reincarnated

He's a far better all round player than Henman.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: döm on June 12, 2011, 22:50:40 PM
He's a far better all round player than Henman.

True, and to be in the top 5 players in the World for so long is a fine achievement.  It's also a burden that there are no other decent British tennis players out there and he has to carry the weight of all that expectation.  Henman suffered from exactly the same thing and the real finger of blame must point at the LTA.

He's still relatively young of course, but just like Henman I don't think he'll  ever win a grand slam.

Of course this could be thrown in my face in 3 weeks time  ;D
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on June 12, 2011, 23:30:59 PM
Sorry, but i can't help feeling that Murray is just a wanker.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Straight Shooter on June 13, 2011, 10:49:10 AM
Sorry, but i can't help feeling that Murray is just a wanker.
He stands up at gigs?!  ::)   :P
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on June 13, 2011, 13:05:56 PM
He stands up at gigs?!  ::)   :P

He might well do mate! There's just something about him that i dislike, and i can't quite put my finger on it.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on June 13, 2011, 14:10:33 PM
oh God he lost the first set ffs...
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: döm on June 13, 2011, 14:27:38 PM
Decent match though
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on June 13, 2011, 14:39:51 PM
won the second on the tie break... game on...
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: döm on June 13, 2011, 15:14:11 PM
Murray well on top now and taking the p**s
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on June 13, 2011, 15:52:17 PM
nice one andy :)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Red Star on June 13, 2011, 18:31:49 PM
Yes, well done but can he replicate this in 2 weeks time when it really matters? :-\
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on June 13, 2011, 19:14:07 PM
Yes, well done but can he replicate this in 2 weeks time when it really matters? :-\

no of course not.  ::)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on June 13, 2011, 20:55:29 PM
Yes, well done but can he replicate this in 2 weeks time when it really matters? :-\

More chance of me having a threesome with Holly Willoughby and Susanna Reid whilst hoovering Chris.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Red Star on June 13, 2011, 21:12:53 PM
More chance of me having a threesome with Holly Willoughby and Susanna Reid whilst hoovering Chris.

Infinitely more watchable Rob! :D
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on June 14, 2011, 19:54:34 PM
Infinitely more watchable Rob! :D

Well if you could fix it up, you could definitely watch mate!
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Straight Shooter on June 14, 2011, 20:51:58 PM
Well if you could fix it up, you could definitely watch mate!
Although you wouldn't have to watch for very long Chris...........  ::)  ;D
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on June 14, 2011, 20:59:06 PM
Although you wouldn't have to watch for very long Chris...........  ::)  ;D

Correct mate, especially when the hoover started!  :P ;).
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Andrew_Haldane on June 14, 2011, 23:02:27 PM
This is basement fodder.......much as I like you Rob and Chris I really don't want those kind of images in my head just before I go to sleep...........shiver
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on June 15, 2011, 16:24:17 PM
(http://www.majasaja.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/4ee5ce45514sears.jpg)

gratuitous pic of Ms Sears to get us back on track..kind of...
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on June 15, 2011, 19:44:52 PM
This is basement fodder.......much as I like you Rob and Chris I really don't want those kind of images in my head just before I go to sleep...........shiver

Lol, sorry mate  ;).
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on June 17, 2011, 20:39:59 PM
Had to laugh at that bit in the Sun today from Frankie Boyle. He said Andy Murray had won the tournament at Queens, and would have a great chance of winning Wimbledon as long as the top players don't turn up for that one either.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on June 21, 2011, 14:12:30 PM
made a bit of a struggle of his game last night but won out fairly easily...
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: döm on June 21, 2011, 14:14:14 PM
made a bit of a struggle of his game last night but won out fairly easily...

Yes the Spanish guy started very strongly but then just faded away.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Jonners on June 21, 2011, 15:05:41 PM
Young Rory Mac already achieved more in his career than Murray ever will, and showed how to behave in public and endear himself to fans
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on June 21, 2011, 15:57:07 PM
Young Rory Mac already achieved more in his career than Murray ever will, and showed how to behave in public and endear himself to fans

yes but what's  his g/f like  ?
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Jonners on June 21, 2011, 16:58:23 PM
fit
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on June 21, 2011, 17:39:04 PM
fit

picture please...
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: JonL on June 21, 2011, 19:44:25 PM
More chance of me having a threesome with Holly Willoughby and Susanna Reid whilst hoovering Chris.
You picked my two favourites there Zoony.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on June 21, 2011, 22:43:24 PM
You picked my two favourites there Zoony.

Quality aren't they mate  ::) ;).
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on June 22, 2011, 22:12:05 PM
easy win today..well done Anders...
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Red Star on June 24, 2011, 08:33:14 AM
Murray very pissed off because people in the crowd keep winding him up by shouting 'come on Tim'!

So, COME ON TIM! ;D
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: döm on June 24, 2011, 09:18:49 AM
Murray very pissed off because people in the crowd keep winding him up by shouting 'come on Tim'!

So, COME ON TIM! ;D

Yeah his natural state is to be pissed off so it doesn't take much to send him over the edge.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: JonL on June 25, 2011, 10:00:14 AM
Nearly blew it last night. More entertaining than U2 though.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Red Star on June 27, 2011, 16:19:50 PM
Good performance from the dour scot this afternoon, safely through in straight sets.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Digital Matt on June 27, 2011, 20:21:15 PM
Good performance from the dour scot this afternoon, safely through in straight sets.
Dour? Hardly! He comically bowed to the newlyweds in the Royal box....awesome destruction of Gasquet . I haven't seen a sportsman struggle so much since Jim's effort to get to the front at the Ahoy!
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Jonners on June 28, 2011, 11:27:52 AM
lucky sod may get a free pass to the final, looks like Nadal is struggling
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on June 28, 2011, 13:10:48 PM
lucky sod may get a free pass to the final, looks like Nadal is struggling

could just be the little bit of luck he needs...
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on June 28, 2011, 13:16:24 PM
could just be the little bit of luck he needs...

ah he's fecked..Nadal confirms himself fit...
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Digital Matt on June 28, 2011, 14:48:37 PM
ah he's fecked..Nadal confirms himself fit...
He has, Murray looked good tho' and Nadal won't be 100% fit. Murray still has to overcome Lopez before he meets Nadal.   
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Slim on June 28, 2011, 22:24:02 PM
Enjoy having a Brit in the top four, because it won't happen again for quite a long time. As for Nadal being unfit giving Andy a decent crack at the title - I think you're overlooking a certain Swiss player, there.

I think this is Federer's chance to win a final Wimbledon. He won't get another, I don't think. But this year at least, he'll always get past Andy Murray.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on June 29, 2011, 16:45:40 PM
Federer gone.. 2-0 sets up as well.. interesting ....
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Jonners on June 29, 2011, 16:47:19 PM
Just jokovic and Nadal to see off then

Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: NeilP on June 29, 2011, 17:40:36 PM
and Lopez
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: döm on June 29, 2011, 18:35:01 PM
Nice win for Tsonga.  That was his final though and I doubt he'll be able to recreate that form against Djokovic.  Here's hoping though   :)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Slim on June 29, 2011, 18:35:34 PM
Can't see Lopez coming back from two sets down. Of course I said that about Tsonga a few hours ago.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on June 29, 2011, 19:21:01 PM
a fairly one sided affair for Murray at the end of the day...
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: NeilP on June 29, 2011, 19:52:23 PM
and he's played the old injury card just like Nadal
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Slim on June 29, 2011, 23:20:06 PM
Well, he's in the semis again.

I don't think he'll ever win Wimbledon but it's a long time since we've had a British player who's as consistent a performer as this in mens' tennis. In fact (yes, just looked this up) Bunny Austin, who died in 2000 at the age of 94, was the last British player to do as well as Murray at Wimbledon. He reached the final in 1932 and 1938. Fred Perry had won the title in 1934, 1935 and 1936.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: NeilP on June 29, 2011, 23:41:38 PM
wasn't Wimbledon and the other Grand Slams only open to amateur players in those days, Perry turning pro after he won it three times in order to make some ££?
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Digital Matt on June 30, 2011, 00:50:10 AM
Enjoy having a Brit in the top four, because it won't happen again for quite a long time. As for Nadal being unfit giving Andy a decent crack at the title - I think you're overlooking a certain Swiss player, there.

I think this is Federer's chance to win a final Wimbledon. He won't get another, I don't think. But this year at least, he'll always get past Andy Murray.

This post represents the ' best ' prediction I have read on here.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Slim on June 30, 2011, 10:31:03 AM
This post represents the ' best ' prediction I have read on here.

Well, since Federer went out to Tsonga yesterday we'll never know! I think you're right, though. Murray would have lost to Federer yesterday.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Red Star on June 30, 2011, 10:47:19 AM
Well, since Federer went out to Tsonga yesterday we'll never know! I think you're right, though. Murray would have lost to Federer yesterday.

I agree, I couldn't see Murray beating Federer on grass and certaily not in a Grand Slam when it matters. That said, however, he is playing some of the best tennis I've ever seen from him. I don't think it's good enough to get past Nadal in the semis though.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on June 30, 2011, 11:28:28 AM
does his mother and Ms Sears ever talk to each other  ??
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Red Star on June 30, 2011, 16:52:40 PM
does his mother and Ms Sears ever talk to each other  ??

Not that I've seen no. His g/f always sits to his mother's left hand side also. :-\
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Nicola B on July 01, 2011, 18:41:12 PM
He was fantastic in the first set, made an unforced error at a crucial point in a game in the second set, and its been all down hill since... :-\
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Spud on July 01, 2011, 19:40:16 PM
Nadal just upped in gear in that 2nd set and hasn't looked back.  He's class.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Slim on July 01, 2011, 19:49:33 PM
A creditable performance against someone who's probably one of the all-time greats. Out in the semis again, but in the big picture he's done well. He'll have another few goes but with Djokovic in the picture now as well as Federer and Nadal and younger players coming through all the time, it's hard to see him ever winning at Wimbledon.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on July 01, 2011, 20:18:21 PM
He was fantastic in the first set, made an unforced error at a crucial point in a game in the second set, and its been all down hill since... :-\

yep crucial point in that second set.. then it was all Nadal...
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on July 01, 2011, 21:50:05 PM
Hoorah! The loathesome Brit is out at last :)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on July 01, 2011, 22:08:08 PM
Not good enough when it comes to the crunch, it's really as simple as that. He just doesn't endear himself to being a popular, likable guy either, which is why i'm glad when he fails each year to win a grand slam. That's not saying that i have anything against the Scots though, nothing could be further than the truth as i've met some great folk on here from north of the border.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: döm on July 01, 2011, 22:31:42 PM
No disgrace in being the 4th best player in the World, but that's what he is and Nadal just confirmed that today.  Not to say he won't ever win a grand slam but it is beginning to look more and more unlikely.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Japes on July 01, 2011, 22:44:28 PM
I find Murray strangely endearing with his 'whatever' attitude to all the media crap that surrounds half decent British tennis players - did you see his press conference this evening?  Just like a surly teenager who's been told off and had his Xbox taken away from him...hope he never changes :-)   Echoing Slim and with Rafa, Djokovic and Federer around he may get to a Grand Slam final or two but I don't think he will ever win one.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: NeilP on July 01, 2011, 23:32:23 PM
He might win the US, but unlikely to win the others.

Djokovic will win it in 5 sets I think, he's been the best player in the world this year
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: JonL on July 01, 2011, 23:36:29 PM
He might win the US, but unlikely to win the others.

Djokovic will win it in 5 sets I think, he's been the best player in the world this year
Unfortunately, he's been slowly but surely overtaking Murray for the last 18 months.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: NeilP on July 02, 2011, 00:00:55 AM
he's overtaken everyone this year hasn't he?
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Red Star on July 02, 2011, 08:57:39 AM
with Djokovic in the picture now as well as Federer and Nadal and younger players coming through all the time, it's hard to see him ever winning at Wimbledon.

Yes, he's filled Henman's shoes perfectly.Well done.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Slim on July 02, 2011, 09:47:23 AM
Yes, he's filled Henman's shoes perfectly.Well done.

Although I think you mean that in a cynical sense, it's no mean feat to my mind. Henman was the best British prospect for many years, undoubtedly a top player, and Murray has surpassed his achievements comfortably.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Straight Shooter on July 02, 2011, 10:10:18 AM
That's not saying that i have anything against the Scots though, nothing could be further than the truth as i've met some great folk on here from north of the border.
Good recovery Zoony!  ;D
If only Murray had done the same.......... ::)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Slim on July 02, 2011, 19:07:58 PM
Although I think you mean that in a cynical sense, it's no mean feat to my mind. Henman was the best British prospect for many years, undoubtedly a top player, and Murray has surpassed his achievements comfortably.

 .. plus: there are only four people in the world who have won a grand slam in men's tennis since Murray appeared on the scene in 2005, and only two of them have won at Wimbledon in that time. It's a very exclusive club to break into.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Red Star on July 03, 2011, 10:27:12 AM
It's a very exclusive club to break into.

Indeed it is, even the mighty Ivan Lendl - winner of 8 Grand Slam titles couldn't win Wimbledon which is of course the most prestigious of all the Grand Slams and rightly so. Murray and indeed Henman are/were fine players, but both lack that extra special secret ingredient that makes them 'great' players and sets them apart from the other journeymen group of players which they are part of.

I used to watch Lendl who was world No.1 and dominant in the 80's losing in the semi final of Wimbledon 5 times and twice in the final, and I wrongly viewed him as the 'nearly man' yet he was a 'great' player something Henman never reached and I doubt Murray will either.

Still, it's enabled Murray to earn a fabulous living from tennis and pull a bird who is far beyond his reach in normal life.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: NeilP on July 03, 2011, 17:30:48 PM
He might win the US, but unlikely to win the others.

Djokovic will win it in 5 sets I think, he's been the best player in the world this year

I'm slipping, he did it in four!;)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Spud on July 03, 2011, 21:26:55 PM
From what i saw he was pretty good and deserved the win.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: JonL on July 03, 2011, 21:38:40 PM
He did deserve the win, but Rafa was off his game too.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on July 03, 2011, 21:49:18 PM
Rafa was off his game too.

But he was still too good for Murray!
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Slim on July 03, 2011, 21:56:31 PM
Indeed it is, even the mighty Ivan Lendl - winner of 8 Grand Slam titles couldn't win Wimbledon which is of course the most prestigious of all the Grand Slams and rightly so. Murray and indeed Henman are/were fine players, but both lack that extra special secret ingredient that makes them 'great' players and sets them apart from the other journeymen group of players which they are part of.

I think it's possibly a bit unfair to consider him a "journeyman" player at fourth-best in the world. A pundit on 5 Live commented that there's a gulf in class between the top four (of which Murray is unquestionably a part) and the rest of the field in men's tennis. He also mentioned that, unfortunately, there's also a gulf in class between the top three and number four. So for the moment at least, from a certain perspective, he's in a sort of second-tier league of his own. Will tend to make the semi-finals, will also tend to go out in them.

I note that Djokovic's victory today underlines the old rule that I've mentioned before - Wimbledon champions have won their first grand slam by the age of 22. Djokovic was 20 when he won the Australian Open in 2008. Only one year in the last 36 has seen an exception to that rule. Andy Murray is already 24 but I wouldn't discount his chances completely - who knows, perhaps next year Federer will go out in an early round again, Nadal will be nursing an injury  and Djokovic will have an off day and go out in the semis. Could happen. Can't really see it, though.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: NeilP on July 03, 2011, 23:23:09 PM
He did deserve the win, but Rafa was off his game too.

I'm not so sure he was. Tennis generally comes down to a number of stats. Percentage of first serves in (both about 80%), the quality of service return (Djokovic was outstanding here), unforced errors (roughly the same) and outright winners (again Djokovic won 3x as many as Nadal). As he's now beaten him in the last five matches (all finals) he's played him this year and has only lost 1 match in 50 in 2011, the Serb won relatively comfortably and seems to have the former #1 sussed atm.

Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Jonners on July 06, 2011, 09:57:02 AM
Unfortunately Murray has proved that while he has the physical and technical skills to win at tennis, he is a long way from being there mentally.

The one fluffed point followed by 7 straight games lost was as good an indication of this as can be seen

he needs to stick with a coach (does he have one?) and banish his mother from the stands/twitter/the scene. Not only is she a bad infliuence and a distraction to him, but she is also hideously ugly (him without the stubble)

I know a number of very serious current and ex sportsmen from a variety of disciplines, and the gap between success and failure is tiny, and almost all concur it is a mental issue

Was talking to a tennis coach yesterday who dislikes Sharapova intensely. The popular theory is the screams she does is to mask the sound of the ball coming off the racket, so the opponent loses rhythm and can tell if its a slice or full shot etc
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on July 06, 2011, 11:12:33 AM
was listening to David lloyd who mentioned that Murray would do better by having a shave, ( when did u last see nadala/federer/ Djocovik coming on court with stubble)... all partt of the mental attitude thing..

have to agree about the woman's tennis.. completey unwatchable with all the grunts/screams going on.. was glad when the Williams sisters got  knocked out as they are very bad for this.. but that Sharapova bird.. 'kin hell...  tell her to shut the feck up umpire...
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Slim on July 06, 2011, 14:29:12 PM
was listening to David lloyd who mentioned that Murray would do better by having a shave, ( when did u last see nadala/federer/ Djocovik coming on court with stubble)... all partt of the mental attitude thing..

I think it's a superstition isn't it? Doesn't like to shave during the tournament. Bjorn Borg did exactly the same thing to be fair, although his beard was a bit more substantial than Andy's. which looks awful.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on July 06, 2011, 15:18:24 PM
and Borg had slighly more success.. maybe time to ditch that superstition then... interesting that when Nadal was coming out from the locker rooms with Murray they commented on how he likes to put his bags down adjust his straps on the bags then one on each shoulder and carry a racket with him... funny old thing the mind innit  ?
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Red Star on September 08, 2011, 16:54:39 PM
Murray still in the US Open with his forth round match against Donald Young rained off after 3 games.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Red Star on September 11, 2011, 17:27:49 PM
Normal business is resumed with Murray going out of the US Open to Nadal.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: döm on September 11, 2011, 17:51:39 PM
Shame for him not to make the final but 4 grand slam semis in a season is a fantastic achievement.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Dixkot on September 11, 2011, 18:07:50 PM
Shame for him not to make the final but 4 grand slam semis in a season is a fantastic achievement.

Only the 7th player ever to do that.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: NeilP on September 11, 2011, 19:02:27 PM
he brilliant but so are the other fella's
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Slim on September 11, 2011, 22:33:30 PM
He's been very consistent of late. Consistently fourth best, but that's no mean achievement. He probably dreams of Djokovic, Federer and Nadal being in the same plane crash.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on September 12, 2011, 09:28:26 AM
Still a loser, still a twat.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: NeilP on September 12, 2011, 09:39:16 AM
I think he's neither of those tbh
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on September 12, 2011, 10:46:27 AM
I think he's neither of those tbh

We'll agree to disagree then.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Slim on September 12, 2011, 13:24:08 PM
I think he may be a bit of a twat, but having three players consistently in front of him doesn't make him a loser.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: NeilP on September 13, 2011, 08:33:32 AM
I stayed up and watched the Nadal v Djokovic match in the US Open.

Amazing stuff with many reporting that it was as good (if not better) as there's ever been in terms of the quality reached.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Slim on September 13, 2011, 09:45:35 AM
More than anything the sheer acrobatic athleticism evident at the top of tennis now is staggering - Nadal and Djokovic make it look like table tennis at times.

The first Wimbledon men's final I can remember watching from start to finish was in 1974. Ken Rosewall was 39, a graceful and precise player but he was blown over by the youthful energy and power which was entering the game, in this case in  the form of his opponent, Jimmy Connors. I wonder how Ken would have fared against one of last night's finalists? Doesn't bear thinking about.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: NeilP on September 13, 2011, 10:04:29 AM
More than anything the sheer acrobatic athleticism evident at the top of tennis now is staggering - Nadal and Djokovic make it look like table tennis at times.

The first Wimbledon men's final I can remember watching from start to finish was in 1974. Ken Rosewall was 39, a graceful and precise player but he was blown over by the youthful energy and power which was entering the game, in this case in  the form of his opponent, Jimmy Connors. I wonder how Ken would have fared against one of last night's finalists? Doesn't bear thinking about.

Well a young Rosewall with a wooden racquet would have done ok I'm guessing.

I heard Murray, Henman and Becker on Radio5 Live earlier this year discussing the techology changes in the game. They all agreed that if you gave Federer, Nadal, Djokovic and Murray a wooden racquet and invited them to play on the men's circuit against other players armed with the modern carbon fibre ones, then none of the 4 players would make the top 1000 rankings in the modern game. I found that quite enlightning tbh.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Slim on September 13, 2011, 12:34:27 PM
Well, Rosewall wasn't young in 1974, but he still made a Wimbledon final.

I have the impression that, as in football (albeit perhaps less so), the change in commitment to fitness and developments in training methods (along with diet specialists and the rest of it) have made a striking change to the game. The rackets are different too as are the balls I believe, and I can definitely accept what Messrs Murray, Henman and Becker say about that.

But I still reckon that if you could somehow give the 1974 Rosewall and the 2011 Djokovic the same racket, whether wooden or composite, and get them to play each other, old Ken would be crucified.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Jonners on September 13, 2011, 14:02:26 PM
I think in sport you have to assume that a world class athelete in one era would have the physical and mental make up to be world class in any era, so I would have to disagree James (although I would simply love for something like that, or a Bradman to play in the next ashes, or Senna drive for Red Bull, Niklaus to use modern clubs etc)



Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Slim on September 13, 2011, 17:02:16 PM
I think in sport you have to assume that a world class athelete in one era would have the physical and mental make up to be world class in any era

But it's not only about the physical or mental make up. There are advances in techniques not only in the equipment, but in sport itself, in the ways that it is played. The best example of this I can think of is the England football team's first defeat at Wembley in 1953; not something I remember myself I hasten to add, but England were famously beaten by more modern tactics employed by Hungary. The game had moved on, and left England behind. This marked the beginning of a sea change in the way the game was coached in England, at club level as well as internationally.

Also there have been changes in standards of fitness and athleticism in sport. I don't think Rosewall even was a "world class athlete", frankly. People didn't think of tennis in those terms in his day. Of course he was a graceful, clever player and physically fit but he could never have thrown himself around a court like Batman the way Nadal does and I don't think he would even have thought of playing tennis that way.

I don't think it will ever be possible for a 39 year old to play in the final of a grand slam again.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Jonners on September 13, 2011, 17:36:02 PM
I agree on most points, techniques, training and diet have all moved on in line with equipment, but I maintain that someone who was world class in another era would surely respond to these changes in the same way as someone in our era, so making them world class now

My argument hinges on world class atheletes having a superior mental and physical stautus which allows them to dominate other players in their chosen field. Having never seen Rosewall actually play, I cant comment on his style, but I can only assume that his "winning " mind set would mean that if he needed to defy gravity to win these days, he could and would

A huge factor of course to bear in mind when we put our stars from the past in this time machine of ours, is that people are noticeably bigger, faster and stronger these days from birth, due to diet, breeding, health care and genetics. The tallest player in the England Rugby team in 1960 was 6ft 2.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Slim on September 13, 2011, 20:51:54 PM
I agree on most points, techniques, training and diet have all moved on in line with equipment, but I maintain that someone who was world class in another era would surely respond to these changes in the same way as someone in our era, so making them world class now

I see what you mean. But given that tennis is different now, whether because of increased emphasis on athleticism and agility, or even because of different equipment - it follows that someone with the physical and/or mental aptitude to succeed at the top level in tennis in the '70s will not necessarily have the required attributes to succeed at the same level in 2011.

In particular, I maintain that no-one of Rosewall's age in 1974 will ever compete in a tennis grand slam final again. Can you imagine Federer in a Wimbledon final in nine years' time, or Nadal in fourteen years' time? I think their time will have long gone, simply because the physically demanding nature of the sport in the present day decisively favours younger players.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: NeilP on September 13, 2011, 21:27:17 PM
Rosewall was as fit as he needed to be to win 23 majors and 132 career titles in a career spanning almost 25 years at the top. To suggest that he, together with his peers (Laver, Roche, Newcombe, Hoad, Segura, Sedgeman etc) wouldn't have competed in today's era is an insult to their ability.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Jonners on September 14, 2011, 08:38:34 AM
Spot on Neil

James is correct on another point though, sporting careers are much much shorter these days, due to a mixture of the rigours of training, more competition, and of course more money

Would stars of yesteryear compete these days? Not sure. A good big one will always beat a good little un

A very interesting debate/topic relates to the sizes of pitches, goals, courts etc most of the sports we in the UK are interested in and are good at were developed in the 18/1900's when people were much smaller, less fit etc. As a result, as we humans have got bigger, stronger, faster and more technically aware, things like goal mouths, rugby pitches/football pitches, tennis courts, cricket pitches have become too small

If you look at stats for football, many more goals were scored in the past, rallies were longer at tennis, batsmen had more chance at cricket and spinners were more prevalent

The only game where points have not changed massively is rugby, and in fact more points are scored these days, however that is predominantly due to the try scoring point system changing (it only counted if the conversion went over) ad the balls becoming easier to kick

(This is a really interesting argument, and not a canadian pensioner in site!)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: NeilP on September 14, 2011, 10:03:21 AM
Aye, big changes in many sports. James makes many valid points tbh & I'm sure those former tennis greats I mentioned would struggle with modern racquets against the modern stars but it'd be a close call with the good old laminated wood type with gut strings.

Something else I found interesting was that race horses (thoroughbreds presumably) haven't got any faster over the years compared to man's achievements on the running track. Did they reach their peak performance in the distant past rather than through training, diet and supplements etc?
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Jonners on September 14, 2011, 10:35:27 AM
Horse racing! Dont start me on that. The amount of fixing/fraud and foul play in that game is mind bendingly huge!
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Slim on September 14, 2011, 10:41:35 AM
Rosewall was as fit as he needed to be to win 23 majors and 132 career titles in a career spanning almost 25 years at the top.

Exactly, yes. As fit, as agile, as naturally athletic (etc) as he needed to be in what was a different game.

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To suggest that he, together with his peers (Laver, Roche, Newcombe, Hoad, Segura, Sedgeman etc) wouldn't have competed in today's era is an insult to their ability.

Well I'm not saying they wouldn't have competed, just that they wouldn't necessarily have been successful at the top level. It's not an insult at all; it just recognises that the sport is different than it was in their era.

Do you think that Federer, or Nadal, or Djokovic will still be making grand slam finals at 39, Neil? Do you wonder why Pete Sampras didn't make a grand slam final last year, when he was 39?
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Jonners on September 14, 2011, 10:53:22 AM
Correct, I dont think Sampras or Federer will be (although Murray might, it could be his only chance of winning something meaningful)

However, I dont think this should be related just to tennis. In the past, you have seen men and women competing at International level well into their late 30's/40's in many sports such as football, cricket, even rugby.
Today, such a person would and is regarded as a freak/exception to the rule, even golf is becoming a young man's game.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: NeilP on September 14, 2011, 11:04:06 AM

Do you think that Federer, or Nadal, or Djokovic will still be making grand slam finals at 39, Neil? Do you wonder why Pete Sampras didn't make a grand slam final last year, when he was 39?

No, but don't think it the same argument.
I imagine they'll be earning a good living through TV, Sponsorship, Coaching or playing of the Seniors Tour, like the McEnroe's et al of today. Do remember also that one of the motivations for Rosewall playing Wimbledon at 39 was because the LTA wouldn't let him and his fellow Pro's compete at their peak as it was for amateurs only.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: NeilP on September 14, 2011, 11:09:58 AM
Horse racing! Dont start me on that. The amount of fixing/fraud and foul play in that game is mind bendingly huge!

Perhaps, but the horse race times aren't any faster than 100 years back which is odd
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: NeilP on September 14, 2011, 11:13:21 AM
Modern equipment has made the men's game more like table tennis in terms of shot making and very much faster, hence it's advantageous to be young and athletic. As for golf, the equipment has certainly shortened the courses and made it mostly about the short game. Perhaps though, the 'big bertha' type of wood has enabled the veterans (e.g Watson etc) to compete at the majors with the young straps?
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Jonners on September 14, 2011, 11:17:10 AM
Golf is a fascinating one, and one of my favourite topics

One of the issues with pro golf is that it is now at a stage where the courses and holes are rediculously long, the par 3 holes are absolutely rediculous in some instances

I played at Woburn a few weeks back on the Marquis course, and we played off the very back tees, and genuinely thought I needed a howitzer in my bag for a couple of the holes
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Slim on September 14, 2011, 11:22:36 AM
Spot on Neil

James is correct on another point though, sporting careers are much much shorter these days, due to a mixture of the rigours of training, more competition, and of course more money

Would stars of yesteryear compete these days? Not sure. A good big one will always beat a good little un

I think it depends on the sport in question. Some sports have changed or developed  in the manner they're played more than others.

My original point was that the Ken Rosewall of 1974, although perfectly good enough to make a Wimbledon final in that year would have been steamrollered by the top players of today. But even if Ken had been born a few decades later, benefitting from being accustomed to modern equipment, diet and nutrition regimes, training methods and the rest of it, we can't simply assume that he would have had the necessary aptitude to compete successfully at the very top of the sport - because tennis in the present day places different weight of emphasis on different attributes. There's no way to say that, even aged 24 or 25 in 2011, he would have had the necessary stamina, agility, speed of reaction or physical power to compete meaningfully in five sets with Nadal or Djokovic on the other side of the net.

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If you look at stats for football, many more goals were scored in the past, rallies were longer at tennis, batsmen had more chance at cricket and spinners were more prevalent

Well actually that raises a pertinent point - I almost stopped watching men's tennis altogether in the '90s because there were relatively few rallies; it seemed to be all stop-start, thwacking the ball over the net as hard as possible, with unreturnable serves or decisive volleys very early in a point. Since then surfaces (and balls, I believe) have been slowed down to make it more interesting, very successfully imo.

An inevitable consequence of this is that a different style of play becomes more successful, which - since some players naturally have a different style than others - absolutely makes my point.  I don't think Nadal would have done nearly as well (say) 12 or 13 years ago, and I don't think a predominantly serve / volley player like Sampras would do nearly so well now.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Slim on September 14, 2011, 11:23:27 AM
Correct, I dont think Sampras or Federer will be (although Murray might, it could be his only chance of winning something meaningful)

However, I dont think this should be related just to tennis.

Agreed.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Jonners on September 14, 2011, 14:49:09 PM
This debate has fascinated me for a long time, not just in this thread.

I was thinking about sports where it has been possible to say a past great would definitely stack up against a modern great, and its been difficult. The "sports" which are more parlour games to these eyes might offer potential, such as darts and snooker. The increase in prize money has helped darts players these days increase their averages

I reckon Ray Reardon at his peak would hold his own in todays company

Butr then again, snooker is not sport
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Dixkot on October 09, 2011, 10:46:12 AM

Great win for Murray over Nadal in the final of the Japan Open. 3-6 6-2 6-0.

Nadal only won 4 points in the last set. :o
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: döm on October 09, 2011, 12:01:41 PM
Great win for Murray over Nadal in the final of the Japan Open. 3-6 6-2 6-0.

Nadal only won 4 points in the last set. :o

Nadal doesn't seem to be the player he was.  Nonetheless, very impressive by Murray to finish him of so convincingly
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on October 09, 2011, 21:38:52 PM
Nadal doesn't seem to be the player he was.  Nonetheless, very impressive by Murray to finish him of so convincingly

Wait until the PROPER tournaments.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Pudders on October 09, 2011, 21:54:06 PM
Wait until the PROPER tournaments.

Despite my best efforts William Hill refused point blank to take my bet that you would say that......  ;D ;)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on October 09, 2011, 21:58:03 PM
Despite my best efforts William Hill refused point blank to take my bet that you would say that......  ;D ;)

Lol, nice one mate  ;).
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on October 17, 2011, 14:56:33 PM
up to No 3 ..well done Andy...
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Jonners on October 17, 2011, 15:33:29 PM
3 tournaments on the bounce, that does not happen too often!

Do we think he might have found a formula for consistancy? Lets hope so
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on October 17, 2011, 15:39:00 PM
3 tournaments on the bounce, that does not happen too often!

Do we think he might have found a formula for consistancy? Lets hope so

has he ditched his mom ?
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on October 17, 2011, 16:38:17 PM
Lets hope so

Why's that then mate?
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: döm on October 17, 2011, 18:25:47 PM
up to No 3 ..well done Andy...

Fantastic achievement
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Red Star on October 17, 2011, 20:06:28 PM
Do we think he might have found a formula for consistancy?

Yes, he consistently fails to perform in Grand Slams like he does in lesser tournaments.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: döm on October 17, 2011, 21:00:25 PM
Yes, he consistently fails to perform in Grand Slams like he does in lesser tournaments.

This year he's been a finalist once and made the semis in the other 3; pretty much bang on target really.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Red Star on October 17, 2011, 22:13:39 PM
pretty much bang on target really.

Surely his target is to win them. He is managing to win lesser tournaments but cant win a GS.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Andrew_Haldane on October 17, 2011, 22:27:25 PM
Surely his target is to win them. He is managing to win lesser tournaments but cant win a GS.

might have somerhing to do with the incredible standard of the opposition Chris. Also I wonder if he'd already have mase the breakthrough if he was born outside the U.K. without all the pressure and the media scrutinee
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Slim on October 17, 2011, 23:37:00 PM
Yes, he consistently fails to perform in Grand Slams like he does in lesser tournaments.

I don't think he does "fail to perform" in an absolute sense, though. By this measure every tennis player who doesn't make the final of a grand slam has failed to perform in it.. that's definitely overstating it.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Red Star on October 18, 2011, 10:22:07 AM
I don't think he does "fail to perform" in an absolute sense, though. By this measure every tennis player who doesn't make the final of a grand slam has failed to perform in it.. that's definitely overstating it.

No, what I meant was that his performance in Grand Slams was not to the same standard of tennis as he displays in lesser tournaments for some reason. Not that he simply 'fails to perform' per se but he fails to perform to the same level.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Jonners on October 18, 2011, 11:47:03 AM
The pressure obviously does effect him at Grand slams, because I do genuinely think he is good enough to win one (one day)

And lets face it, we do put a lot of pressure on him to perform

I think a British tennis player winning a grand slam event would be very good for the sport throughout Britain, and that is why I want him to win
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: döm on October 18, 2011, 13:59:13 PM
Surely his target is to win them. He is managing to win lesser tournaments but cant win a GS.

That's his target for sure.  I just don't get the moaning when Britain/Scotland has the 3rd best tennis player in the World.  Even if he ends up not winning one he deserves better than that.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Red Star on October 18, 2011, 15:44:07 PM
That's his target for sure.  I just don't get the moaning when Britain/Scotland has the 3rd best tennis player in the World. .

No moaning from me, just stating facts thats all. As Jonners has said, I too hope he does win a slam or two, it will be immensly good for Britsh tennis. :)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Bez on October 19, 2011, 10:01:43 AM
No moaning from me, just stating facts thats all. As Jonners has said, I too hope he does win a slam or two, it will be immensly good for Britsh tennis. :)

I hope he wins one....but he's still a twat.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on October 19, 2011, 20:06:10 PM
I hope he wins one....but he's still a twat.

Yes, he is a twat, and i don't want him to win one.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on October 19, 2011, 20:19:10 PM
I hope he wins one....but he's still a twat.
A BRITISH twat.  >:(
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on October 19, 2011, 20:41:03 PM
A BRITISH twat.  >:(
eh Scottish twat...(with a lovely g/f)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on October 19, 2011, 23:05:43 PM
eh Scottish twat...(with a lovely g/f)
He's a twat and he's British. Does he possess a Scolttish passport?

His g/f is also a twat for going out with the millionaire Murray.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: döm on October 22, 2011, 00:07:47 AM
His mum is the biggest twat though - surely ?
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on October 22, 2011, 09:19:10 AM
His mum is the biggest twat though - surely ?

Nope, he's worse than her.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Red Star on October 22, 2011, 10:16:18 AM
He's a twat and he's British. Does he possess a Scolttish passport?

His g/f is also a twat for going out with the millionaire Murray.

For sure, she has prostituted herself.
Would she be with him if instead of a being a world famous millionnaire tennis player, he was (say) an admin clerk in some council offices?
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on October 22, 2011, 14:52:32 PM
where's his father in all this  ?
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on October 22, 2011, 15:07:44 PM
Who's your father?
Who's your father?
Who's your father Andy Murray?
You ain't got one,
You're a Bastard
You're a Bastard Andy Murray.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: döm on October 22, 2011, 17:55:04 PM
where's his father in all this  ?

Must be divorced ?
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Dixkot on January 21, 2012, 10:08:36 AM


Andy Murray looking good in the Australian Open so far, and a nice chatty, smiley interview afterwards.  Is Lendl making a difference ?
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on January 21, 2012, 11:13:52 AM

Andy Murray looking good in the Australian Open so far, and a nice chatty, smiley interview afterwards.  Is Lendl making a difference ?

Wouldn't have thought Lendl's personality rubbing off onto Murray would have made the Scot happier mate, he was always a miserable bastard as i remember.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on January 25, 2012, 12:57:04 PM
yeah do not know how much Lendl has to offer on the personality front.. anyway back to the tennis..he's doing pretty good...:)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Jonners on January 25, 2012, 14:32:00 PM
Lendl was very dour on court, was widely regarded as the fore runner of modern power tennis, huge strength, fitness and power

which made it all the more strange he never won at Wimbledon, when the likes of Krajicek and Ivanisevic managed it
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Red Star on January 25, 2012, 15:07:06 PM
anyway back to the tennis..he's doing pretty good...:)

He is but thats because he hasn't faced any of the top 3 yet. He's beaten them all before but never in Grand Slams when it really matters so now is the time to prove me wrong.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on January 25, 2012, 17:08:07 PM
Lendl was very dour on court, was widely regarded as the fore runner of modern power tennis, huge strength, fitness and power

which made it all the more strange he never won at Wimbledon, when the likes of Krajicek and Ivanisevic managed it

Lendl was more of a baseliner though Jonners, whereas the two you mention could serve and volley on grass.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Jonners on January 25, 2012, 21:46:32 PM
fair point.

Tennis so much more interesting now that there are some stroke players again like Nadal, Djokovic, Federer.

Sampras was great, but by christ he was dull to watch
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on January 25, 2012, 21:50:43 PM


Sampras was great, but by christ he was dull to watch

Agreed. I must admit i find tennis hard to watch, other than Wimbledon. It doesn't look right to me when players don't wear white for some reason.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Jonners on January 26, 2012, 09:10:01 AM
Agreed. I must admit i find tennis hard to watch, other than Wimbledon. It doesn't look right to me when players don't wear white for some reason.

Yep, know what you mean there big man. Much the same as one day cricket I suppose if one were to be honest, but as brits we have been brought up with Wimbledon and Queens on telly, where white is de rigeur (and to me does look better)

Without trying to sound too much like Gok Wan, but when Federer wore his cram blazer at Wimbledon i thought it looked magnificent
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Red Star on January 27, 2012, 08:50:59 AM
On court now - BBC2/BBC HD
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: NeilP on January 27, 2012, 08:58:50 AM
Let's hope Lendl makes a difference to his head
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Nicola B on January 27, 2012, 09:16:39 AM
Just broken back on serve. He is making quite a few unforced errors but looking quite agressive at times.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Nicola B on January 27, 2012, 09:19:24 AM
I spoke far too soon....

Just made 4 unforced errors to loose on his serve.. :-\
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on January 27, 2012, 09:22:58 AM
oh no 5-2 down...
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Red Star on January 27, 2012, 09:34:46 AM
1st set Djocovic
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: NeilP on January 27, 2012, 09:59:05 AM
this is like Groundhog day
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Jonners on January 27, 2012, 10:10:05 AM
form is temporary, class is permanent
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Red Star on January 27, 2012, 10:23:05 AM
Murray just blown his serve after being a break up.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: NeilP on January 27, 2012, 10:38:05 AM
One set all, come on Andy!
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Nicola B on January 27, 2012, 10:41:53 AM
Does anyone on TNMS actually work on a Friday.. ;D

Murray looking stronger now, especially in long rallies.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: NeilP on January 27, 2012, 10:46:44 AM
I'm catching up with reports...
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Red Star on January 27, 2012, 10:48:51 AM
Well done Murray, bit soon for the commentators to talk in the vein of Murray winning the match though.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on January 27, 2012, 11:00:33 AM
1-1 excellent...
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on January 27, 2012, 11:05:32 AM
yes broken him 2-1 :)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: NeilP on January 27, 2012, 11:07:49 AM
nervy though isn't it?
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on January 27, 2012, 11:17:54 AM
ah feck...
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on January 27, 2012, 11:36:26 AM
Ms Sears looking very nice today :)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: NeilP on January 27, 2012, 11:40:34 AM
Whoever wins this third set will win the match.... then lose to Nadal as they'll be knackered
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Dixkot on January 27, 2012, 11:46:53 AM


Murray should have the game in the bag.  He has been the better player but has the typical Scottish trait of always being able to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.  He needs to win this 3rd set.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Dixkot on January 27, 2012, 11:49:20 AM

Break point
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Dixkot on January 27, 2012, 11:50:18 AM


Yes !!!!!

But can he hold his own for the set !!!!!
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Dixkot on January 27, 2012, 12:02:18 PM


He just doesn't like an easy life, does he?
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Dixkot on January 27, 2012, 12:05:03 PM


Yes !!

2 - 1 Murray.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on January 27, 2012, 12:05:50 PM
Yes !  :)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Dixkot on January 27, 2012, 12:19:10 PM


You'd think that winning the 3rd set would give him a lift, but no.  What is going on in his head?
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on January 27, 2012, 12:21:25 PM
the 4th has gone... its all about the 5th set now..
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: NeilP on January 27, 2012, 12:21:43 PM
the forth set seems to have gone down the pan.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Dixkot on January 27, 2012, 12:30:40 PM


It's a 1 set match now.  With no tie break.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: NeilP on January 27, 2012, 12:45:23 PM
Nadal will be hoping for a 2 hour final set then
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Dixkot on January 27, 2012, 12:47:21 PM
Nadal will be hoping for a 2 hour final set then

They both appear absolutely knackered.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: NeilP on January 27, 2012, 13:04:50 PM
arse
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on January 27, 2012, 13:08:44 PM
oh dear...
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Dixkot on January 27, 2012, 13:17:03 PM


WTF!!!!

Has Murray had some Red Bull?
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: NeilP on January 27, 2012, 13:21:32 PM
He's had something mate.... please win this
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on January 27, 2012, 13:29:02 PM
'kin hell thought he was a gonner.. great stuff c' mon..:)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: NeilP on January 27, 2012, 13:31:17 PM
down again.......
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Dixkot on January 27, 2012, 13:32:16 PM


Djokovic looks totally drained.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: NeilP on January 27, 2012, 13:35:55 PM
ah well.....
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on January 27, 2012, 13:36:42 PM
5-5 superb...
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Dixkot on January 27, 2012, 13:37:39 PM


Murray should never have lost that match.   He had Djokovic on the ropes several times and let him off.

Great match.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: döm on January 27, 2012, 13:42:23 PM
Fierce display by Murray he can certainly leave the court with his head held high
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: NeilP on January 27, 2012, 13:46:53 PM
he'll get little credit off the Zoonster I bet? ;)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on January 27, 2012, 13:51:35 PM
feck !
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Jonners on January 27, 2012, 13:55:07 PM
same old stroy im afraid, not quite good enough
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on January 27, 2012, 13:57:33 PM
Murray def. had the better of him but just couldn't hammer home the advantage..
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Bez on January 27, 2012, 14:05:56 PM
he'll get little credit off the Zoonster I bet? ;)

Or Bez.... ;)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Jonners on January 27, 2012, 14:08:07 PM
decent effort, but with all the best will in the world not sure why he deserves credit for losing in the semis? Better tha I could do I know, but endemic of the UK and our attitude to sport and winning
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: döm on January 27, 2012, 14:14:15 PM
decent effort, but with all the best will in the world not sure why he deserves credit for losing in the semis? Better tha I could do I know, but endemic of the UK and our attitude to sport and winning

He's the  4th best player in the World and he has been at that level consitently for the last couple of years.  How many other British sportsmen are at that level ?  Any that are deserve nothing but our praise.  I think the attitude to knock others is the endemic problem in the country.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Jonners on January 27, 2012, 14:36:02 PM
Unfortunately I have Googled it, and there appears to not be readily available a list of Britons who are 4th best in the world and win feck all of any note

Im not knocking AM, he has found his level, but unfortunately consistantly fails when it counts ie in the major championships. Therefore, does he deserve credit for his performance today, probably not, because he lost! |Unfortunately for him, when people look back at sportsmen's careers, there wont be a special section reserved for the person who came 4th most regulalrly
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: NeilP on January 27, 2012, 15:34:18 PM
Djokaviic was consistently 4th best a few years back, Murray definitely has improved under Lendl and lets hope he makes the same improvement.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Jonners on January 27, 2012, 15:36:07 PM
So do I, I hope he does (genuinely!), but right now simply not good enough
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on January 27, 2012, 15:37:03 PM
just needs to get that first finals win under his belt and he'll be sorted...
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: döm on January 27, 2012, 16:05:08 PM
Unfortunately I have Googled it, and there appears to not be readily available a list of Britons who are 4th best in the world and win feck all of any note

Im not knocking AM, he has found his level, but unfortunately consistantly fails when it counts ie in the major championships. Therefore, does he deserve credit for his performance today, probably not, because he lost! |Unfortunately for him, when people look back at sportsmen's careers, there wont be a special section reserved for the person who came 4th most regulalrly

I think the LTA should really be taking any criticism going here.  Look how far ahead he is over any other British player.  Why can't they produce players capable of reaching a decent level in a sport that does very well for itself from a financial perspective.  It's pathetic really.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Jonners on January 27, 2012, 16:40:50 PM
I totally agree
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: döm on January 27, 2012, 16:45:52 PM
Unfortunately I have Googled it, and there appears to not be readily available a list of Britons who are 4th best in the world and win feck all of any note

Im not knocking AM, he has found his level, but unfortunately consistantly fails when it counts ie in the major championships. Therefore, does he deserve credit for his performance today, probably not, because he lost! |Unfortunately for him, when people look back at sportsmen's careers, there wont be a special section reserved for the person who came 4th most regulalrly

He's now the first player to have been eliminated from 4 grand slam semis in a row.  Perhaps they'll find a special entry for him after all.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Jonners on January 27, 2012, 16:55:11 PM
coule well end up becoming a psychological issue if he is not careful and miss his chance when it does come and one of the big 3 is injured
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Red Star on January 27, 2012, 17:20:14 PM
Choked again, same old same old, blah, blah blah......... ::)

....and even if he had beaten Djoc and got to the final then he would have choked against Nadal.

It's all well and good beating these guys in lesser tournaments but nobody cares about that, he just can't cut it in Grand Slams.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: döm on January 27, 2012, 17:34:20 PM
Perhaps it would have been better for everyone if he hadn't bothered with tennis at all
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: NeilP on January 27, 2012, 17:38:56 PM
I'll stick with him a bit longer yet, Djokovic did say in the interview it was one of his toughest matches ever
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Red Star on January 27, 2012, 18:55:18 PM
Perhaps it would have been better for everyone if he hadn't bothered with tennis at all

It wouldn't bother me either way if he quit tomorow or carried on for another 10 years. The simple fact is that at the moment he isn't good enough to win Grand Slams because there are 3 guys in the world who are better than him.

He still makes a very good living out of tennis and I don't begrudge him that, and his talent has enabled him to pull a bird thats way out of his league so he aint doing too bad is he?

Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: döm on January 27, 2012, 19:07:33 PM
It wouldn't bother me either way if he quit tomorow or carried on for another 10 years. The simple fact is that at the moment he isn't good enough to win Grand Slams because there are 3 guys in the world who are better than him.

He still makes a very good living out of tennis and I don't begrudge him that, and his talent has enabled him to pull a bird thats way out of his league so he aint doing too bad is he?

Fair enough, I just think people are a little harsh on him, that's all.  If he was the 4th best footballer in the World, plying his trade in the Premiership say, he would be revered. 
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Dixkot on January 27, 2012, 19:55:28 PM
If he was the 4th best footballer in the World, plying his trade in the Premiership say, he would be revered.

Not if he was a Scot  ::)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on January 27, 2012, 21:53:07 PM
No comment.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on January 27, 2012, 21:56:28 PM
Oh good he lost :)

I'd have been just as happy if he'd been English, I hate Tennis and the obsession some people have of seeing a Brit do well. Let's stick to things we almost do well like Creekit.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: döm on January 27, 2012, 22:03:34 PM
Oh good he lost :)

I'd have been just as happy if he'd been English, I hate Tennis and the obsession some people have of seeing a Brit do well. Let's stick to things we almost do well like Creekit.

That's only because so few countries play it.  Not so tough to make the top 4 when only 8 countries play it at the top level
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on January 27, 2012, 23:48:56 PM
That's only because so few countries play it.  Not so tough to make the top 4 when only 8 countries play it at the top level
Stick to what you do best.

I loathe Tennis, it's sport for people who don't like sport - i.e. Women.

On the BBC's CEEFAX letter's pages, you'd get women moaning about the amount of sport on the BBC -yes really!- and then when Wimbledon was on both BBC channels you wouldn't hear a peep out of them.
Then of course tennis is used by the chinless talentless twats to network themselves up the career ladder.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: döm on January 28, 2012, 00:04:26 AM
Stick to what you do best.

I loathe Tennis, it's sport for people who don't like sport - i.e. Women.

On the BBC's CEEFAX letter's pages, you'd get women moaning about the amount of sport on the BBC -yes really!- and then when Wimbledon was on both BBC channels you wouldn't hear a peep out of them.
Then of course tennis is used by the chinless talentless twats to network themselves up the career ladder.

I can't argue with any of that
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on January 28, 2012, 00:19:37 AM
I can't argue with any of that
Good, it's too late for arguing* :)  Nighty-night.


* Except for with the missus...
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on January 28, 2012, 13:34:18 PM
Let's stick to things we almost do well like Creekit.

and getting bowled out for 72...
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on January 28, 2012, 15:07:21 PM
and getting bowled out for 72...
I did say almost do well...
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on January 28, 2012, 15:42:25 PM
Sharapova is very easy on the eye, but she's about as good as winning when it matters as Murray is.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Andrew_Haldane on January 29, 2012, 08:49:17 AM
Fair enough, I just think people are a little harsh on him, that's all.  If he was the 4th best footballer in the World, plying his trade in the Premiership say, he would be revered.

I agree with you that the endemic problem is the English especialy love to knock down anyone who is "God forbid!" successful or even trying really hard to be. On the interational stage its become a huge problem for the England football team. A lof it is the fault of the tabloids imo. Tennis and Intertional football are the 2 obvious areas where British players and teams  have consistantly underachieved though but its becoming a self fulfilling prophecy as well as a vicious cycle and one I struggle to stop myself from indulging in even though its a trait I find very unattractive in others.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Andrew_Haldane on January 29, 2012, 08:57:21 AM
Maybe someone should start a thread on the pyschology of lionising heroic failure vs the need to undermine relative success in the typical English Male
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Red Star on January 29, 2012, 10:22:35 AM
Yes come on people, lets all celebrate the good old British 'also rans' ::)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Andrew_Haldane on January 29, 2012, 11:59:11 AM
The trouble is that the level of public expectation is unreasonably high
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: NeilP on January 29, 2012, 12:20:51 PM
I've a feeling he'll make the big breakthrough in the next 12 months barring injuries
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on January 29, 2012, 12:26:22 PM
i see Nadal is losing to Djocovic..god  he must be shit...
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Red Star on January 29, 2012, 12:54:01 PM
i see Nadal is losing to Djocovic..god  he must be shit...

No, he was has won previous Grand Slams ;)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Andy42g on January 29, 2012, 13:14:10 PM
Murray was fantastic on Friday - amazing match. Great to see him keep his head up and he seems a lot mentally stronger. He has the skills to beat any of them when it counts, and hopefully Lendl will sort his head out. Djocovic is incredible. Great final too. Unbelievable stamina to do this for 5 hours, every other day.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Red Star on January 29, 2012, 18:59:06 PM
Murray was fantastic on Friday - amazing match. Great to see him keep his head up and he seems a lot mentally stronger. He has the skills to beat any of them when it counts,

No, he has the ability to beat any of them when it doesn't count as he has consistently proved. When it matters, when it really matters, he simply can't.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on January 29, 2012, 20:44:32 PM
I know that Djokovic and Nadal are both brilliant players at the top of their games, but you've got to be keen on tennis to sit and watch a match that lsats for nearly 6 hours. Well done to Djokovic, that's 3 grand slams on the trot now, a feat only matched by Nadal, Federer, Sampras and Laver in the mens game.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Andy42g on January 30, 2012, 12:16:30 PM
No, he has the ability to beat any of them when it doesn't count as he has consistently proved. When it matters, when it really matters, he simply can't.
He has the physical ability andit looks like his mentality is improving with lendl. We shall see. But how any of them can beat djokovic at the moment is the question .
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Jonners on January 30, 2012, 12:32:51 PM
I think Djokovic will have a realtively short and succesful career, he seems to carry quite a few injuries. While this is good news for AM, I imagine Djoc will concentrate mainly on the majors, like Tiger Woods used to do in Golf, so the next couple of season could be a barren spell for many in Mans tennis

Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Andy42g on January 31, 2012, 18:58:37 PM
I know that Djokovic and Nadal are both brilliant players at the top of their games, but you've got to be keen on tennis to sit and watch a match that lsats for nearly 6 hours.
Would rather sit through that, brutal gladiatorial combat that it was, than any football game. But, each to their own I guess.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on January 31, 2012, 19:45:28 PM
Would rather sit through that, brutal gladiatorial combat that it was, than any football game. But, each to their own I guess.

Fair comment mate, horses for courses and all that.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Digital Matt on January 31, 2012, 21:46:28 PM
like Tiger Woods used to do in Golf

Well done Jonners, thats the best sporting quote for me in ages, underpinned by RR great win under pressure in Abu Dabi on Sunday .
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Jonners on February 01, 2012, 09:54:23 AM
Well done Jonners, thats the best sporting quote for me in ages, underpinned by RR great win under pressure in Abu Dabi on Sunday .

Brilliant work by rock.

6 years ago he was the "pro" at Swingers, a local driving range and 9 hole course in Lichfield near us. I bought my wife a course of 3 lesons with him, lovely guy.
He now runs the Robert Rock Academy through there, although I imagine this may well see less of him for a while
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Bez on February 01, 2012, 09:58:26 AM
Brilliant work by rock.

6 years ago he was the "pro" at Swingers, a local driving range and 9 hole course in Lichfield near us. I bought my wife a course of 3 lesons with him, lovely guy.
He now runs the Robert Rock Academy through there, although I imagine this may well see less of him for a while

Always good to see a local pro doing well on tour...you're right he always seems like a nice bloke when interviewed

We used to follow Steven Ames as he was attached to Brockett Hall when it first opened and we met him in the bar a couple of times (BP, where I was working, used to have corporate membership cards). Top bloke who got the beers in and was always up for a chat...he played with a three of the guys once because they had some one drop out to make up a 4 ball. One of them said at the time that his first tee shot was the most nervous he'd ever been on a golf course....
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Digital Matt on February 01, 2012, 10:54:14 AM
Rock has been steadily improving for four or five seasons now and this win propells him to 55 in the world rankings from 120 and opens him up to entries in some massive tournaments. Hopefully he'll kick on even more after this win.
I'm off to the driving range now........... 
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Red Star on March 02, 2012, 15:33:42 PM
Well done Murray for yet again beating Djokavic when it doesn't matter.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on March 02, 2012, 16:16:25 PM
at least he beat him ffs...
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Jonners on March 02, 2012, 16:44:23 PM
The Colin Montgomerie of tennis (but with smaller tits)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: döm on March 02, 2012, 18:49:42 PM
For a change I can't be bothered with the whole Groundhog day routine, so I won't bother
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Andrew_Haldane on March 02, 2012, 20:24:51 PM
For a change I can't be bothered with the whole Groundhog day routine, so I won't bother

except you kind of did :)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Andy42g on March 02, 2012, 23:04:54 PM
Well done Murray for yet again beating Djokavic when it doesn't matter.
I'm sure it mattered to the two of them.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: döm on March 03, 2012, 01:05:15 AM
except you kind of did :)

Touche  ;)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on March 03, 2012, 12:20:06 PM
Turtle.

Ooops, wrong thread...
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: döm on March 03, 2012, 14:01:36 PM
Hardy har har  ;)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Red Star on March 03, 2012, 19:40:48 PM
Normal business is resumed - losing to Federer straight sets in the final.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on March 03, 2012, 21:08:39 PM
Have you noticed how when he does manage to beat one of the top 3, he can't continue it when he plays one of the others straight after? Llllooosssseeeerrrr!
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: JonL on March 03, 2012, 21:36:49 PM
He is shit isn't he? 4th best player in the world, what's the point?
Jeysus! ::)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on March 03, 2012, 21:51:54 PM
He is shit isn't he? 4th best player in the world, what's the point?
Jeysus! ::)

Don't start on about 4th Jon, I hear enough about that in the bloody premier league  >:(.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Andrew_Haldane on March 03, 2012, 23:40:59 PM
Don't start on about 4th Jon, I hear enough about that in the bloody premier league  >:(.

Face it Rob...Murrays the closest English tennis fans will get to a winner for the forseeable future and he is getting closer to winning a major. If Team GB  come 4th in the Olympics it will be a big achievement. If England made the Semis of the World Cup Finals it would be a major surprise. The 3 above him are quite possibly the greatest we've seen competing at the same time since Borg, Macenroe and Connors. England/Scotland/Britain had no one near the top 4 then and haven't for decades apart from Henman. Murray has already eclipsed him in world rankings, major finals and career earnings and has double the amount of titles.. 22 to Henman's 11 and theres still plenty of time to improve on that.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: döm on March 03, 2012, 23:48:11 PM
Face it Rob...Murrays the closest English tennis fans will get to a winner for the forseeable future and he is getting closer to winning a major. If Team GB  come 4th in the Olympics it will be a big achievement. If England made the Semis of the World Cup Finals it would be a major surprise. The 3 above him are quite possibly the greatest we've seen competing at the same time since Borg, Macenroe and Connors. England/Scotland/Britain had no one near the top 4 then and haven't for decades apart from Henman. Murray has already eclipsed him in world rankings, major finals and career earnings and has double the amount of titles.. 22 to Henman's 11 and theres still plenty of time to improve on that.

Nice post - I'm glad you're posting on this thread as that's just the sort of point I'd be making (although not so eloquently) if I was still contributing  ;)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Andrew_Haldane on March 03, 2012, 23:52:30 PM
Nice post - I'm glad you're posting on this thread as that's just the sort of point I'd be making (although not so eloquently) if I was still contributing  ;)

Thanks Dom but thats tosh you are the epitome of eloquence!
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on March 04, 2012, 00:35:50 AM
I agree you make some good points Bisto, but as I've said before, Scotland/Britain mean nothing to me mate, I'm English, and as he's Scottish, why would I want him to win anything?
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Andrew_Haldane on March 04, 2012, 00:58:20 AM
so you don't bother with The Lions tour or any GB team in any sport then? Do you support complete National independence for Scotland, Wales and a united Ireland too?
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on March 05, 2012, 21:22:44 PM
so you don't bother with The Lions tour or any GB team in any sport then? Do you support complete National independence for Scotland, Wales and a united Ireland too?

Not really mate, not like I used to. Yes, I'd like to see all the countries in Britain independent.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Andy42g on March 05, 2012, 21:39:16 PM
I agree you make some good points Bisto, but as I've said before, Scotland/Britain mean nothing to me mate, I'm English, and as he's Scottish, why would I want him to win anything?
Because you are British and he's a world class British sportsman?
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Andy42g on March 05, 2012, 21:41:12 PM
I'd like to see all the countries in Britain independent.
::)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on March 05, 2012, 21:50:15 PM
Because you are British and he's a world class British sportsman?

No Andy, I'm English.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on March 05, 2012, 23:27:33 PM
No Andy, I'm English.
Have you got a passport? If so what nation's passport is it?

I couldn't stand that other British Tennis player, Tim Henman. Just because they're British doesn't mean you have to shout for them.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on March 06, 2012, 05:00:27 AM
Have you got a passport? If so what nation's passport is it?

I couldn't stand that other British Tennis player, Tim Henman. Just because they're British doesn't mean you have to shout for them.

No Simmers, I don't have a passport. Henners was a bit of a snob mate, but rather him than Murray, as he was English.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on March 06, 2012, 08:13:34 AM
No Simmers, I don't have a passport.

yes but if you did..it would be a British passport...
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Red Star on March 06, 2012, 11:24:41 AM
Because you are British and he's a world class British sportsman?

That may be but is irrelevent to Zoony as he only has allegience to the 'English' part of Britain. My guess is that the rest of Britain may as well be anywhere else in Europe for all he cares but correct me if I'm wrong Rob.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Jonners on March 06, 2012, 12:33:23 PM
Would you associate Benelux (Belgium, holland, luxemburg) in the same way as britain, ie a collection of neighbouring countries? Or is Benelux more a commercial term for companies selling into a paticular geography? Im interested to know what the differentiation is? Do we cling onto Great Britain because of our colonial/royal/typically "British" outlook on life, or does it still have some relevence in modern society.

Or have I completely got the wrong end of the stick?


Pretty sure Belgium people would not cheer on the Dutch simply because they share a border.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: döm on March 06, 2012, 12:55:09 PM
The chances are that a Belgian waloon would not cheer on a Flemish Belgian and vice verse
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Red Star on March 06, 2012, 13:08:58 PM
Pretty sure Belgium people would not cheer on the Dutch simply because they share a border.

Precisely, so therefore why would Rob or anyone else with the same feelings want to cheer on Scotland, Wales or Ireland and vice versa.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Andrew_Haldane on March 06, 2012, 13:41:39 PM
I am a stranger living in a strange land.  :-\ .....I really don't belong here :(
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Jonners on March 06, 2012, 14:11:13 PM
........I sense a debate brewing which will go straight over my head
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Andrew_Haldane on March 06, 2012, 14:20:37 PM
I was talking about myself mate forget it...not important!
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: döm on March 06, 2012, 14:32:37 PM
Would it be too naff to quote those lines from Territores do you think ? Probably but I think they are pretty appropriate tbh.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Jonners on March 06, 2012, 14:35:33 PM
Better people, better food, and better beer?
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on March 06, 2012, 14:39:52 PM
Better people, better food, and better beer?

has IanB hacked your account  ?
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Jonners on March 06, 2012, 14:47:10 PM
21-12
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on March 06, 2012, 14:49:47 PM
21-12

oh God he has...
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on March 06, 2012, 16:33:09 PM
yes but if you did..it would be a British passport...

Better not get one then  ;).
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on March 06, 2012, 16:45:08 PM
That may be but is irrelevent to Zoony as he only has allegience to the 'English' part of Britain. My guess is that the rest of Britain may as well be anywhere else in Europe for all he cares but correct me if I'm wrong Rob.

That's hit the nail on the head Chris. Don't get me wrong, I've got some good Scottish, Welsh, Irish and other foreign friends, but just because sportsmen/women or teams come from Britain, I've got no allegiance to want them to win over anyone, or team from any other part of the world. England or English, yes, I want them to win, any one from anywhere else, doesn't bother me who wins, unless I've had a bet on them, or it benefits England for a particular team/person to win.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Dixkot on March 06, 2012, 21:44:06 PM
England or English, yes, I want them to win,

Portsmouth?
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on March 07, 2012, 04:57:19 AM
Portsmouth?

If it benefitted us mate, yes. I wish they could have got something at Reading last night!
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: ianb on March 07, 2012, 08:19:55 AM
New Britain bad.... Olde English good! ;)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Andrew_Haldane on March 07, 2012, 09:41:38 AM
New Britain bad.... Olde English good! ;)

Spangles ....ooops wrong thread
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Andy42g on March 08, 2012, 19:56:41 PM
No Andy, I'm English.
No, Rob, you are British. Like it or not. 
You have never been abroad at all? You should try it - it's nice  :).
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on March 08, 2012, 21:30:49 PM
No, Rob, you are British. Like it or not. 
You have never been abroad at all? You should try it - it's nice  :).

Had a week in Spain in 87, stopped at Salou and had a day at Barcelona where I visited the zoo and the Nou camp. Went overland on a coach, I've never been on a plane. Oh, and I'm English.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on March 08, 2012, 21:58:29 PM
Had a week in Spain in 87, stopped at Salou and had a day at Barcelona where I visited the zoo and the Nou camp. Went overland on a coach, I've never been on a plane. Oh, and I'm English.
Look Zooners lad, how many times do we have to tell you: YOU'RE BRITISH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on March 08, 2012, 22:02:14 PM
Look Zooners lad, how many times do we have to tell you: YOU'RE BRITISH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Look Simmers old bean, you and anyone else can say I'm British until you're blue in the face, in my eyes I'm English, and that's the end of it as far as I'm concerned!
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: ianb on March 08, 2012, 22:30:16 PM
Geordies and Brummies rule the world! ;)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on March 08, 2012, 23:39:33 PM
Look Simmers old bean, you and anyone else can say I'm British until you're blue in the face, in my eyes I'm English, and that's the end of it as far as I'm concerned!
Try getting an English passport.
You can be a member of the English subset of the British, but your nationality will always be British.
Anyhoo, you're not even a proper Englishman. You're not from Derbyshire :)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on March 09, 2012, 04:49:30 AM
Try getting an English passport.
You can be a member of the English subset of the British, but your nationality will always be British.
Anyhoo, you're not even a proper Englishman. You're not from Derbyshire :)

West country boy by birth, and Shropshire lad by residence mate  ;).
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Andrew_Haldane on March 09, 2012, 16:00:00 PM
West country boy by birth, and Shropshire lad by residence mate  ;).

"Lad" might be pushing it a bit Rob! ;D
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: pdw1 on March 09, 2012, 16:10:33 PM
West country boy by birth, and Shropshire lad by residence mate  ;).
Southampton supporter by mistake  ;)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Red Star on March 09, 2012, 17:27:15 PM
Try getting an English passport.
You can be a member of the English subset of the British, but your nationality will always be British.

In the same way that Catalonians are Spanish?
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on March 09, 2012, 19:58:27 PM
In the same way that Catalonians are Spanish?
Yup. Show me the country of Catalonia on a map.

Of course I should add a caveat to my ramblings in that Zoony will always be British until Scotland, Wales and Norn Iron secede from the Union.
Although it is probably the proddy Norn Ironish who will most readily self identify as Brits...
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: ianb on March 09, 2012, 20:29:29 PM
England is clearly marked on them maps though!

I wish we could just get 'Geordieland' included in the listings... feck the rest! ;D ;)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Red Star on March 10, 2012, 08:30:15 AM
Sting needs to re write his song then ''I'm a Britishman in New York'' Doesn't sound quite right though :-\
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: ianb on March 10, 2012, 19:16:32 PM
'Please vend unto me a case of your finest 'Olde British Cider' please my good man'.

That just won't cut the mustard in our local Asian store like! :P
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Andy42g on June 04, 2012, 23:33:54 PM
Well, he gave that French chap a good seeing to this afternoon. So nice that he was booed by the crowd - but that seemed to stir him up.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on June 06, 2012, 13:06:19 PM
yeah c'mon Murray...
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Andy42g on June 06, 2012, 18:03:10 PM
Djokovic - I'm sore he was created by Cyberdine corporation. 4 match points against him vs Tsonga and yet he never looked for one moment like he was going to lose.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on June 06, 2012, 21:35:08 PM
http://sportinglife.aol.co.uk/tennis/news/article/22887/7798192/murray-beaten-by-ferrer-in-paris?icid=maing-grid7%7Cuk%7Cdl8%7Csec1_lnk2%26pLid%3D111951

Well that's another grand slam event he's not going to win  :).
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on June 06, 2012, 21:56:50 PM
yeah c'mon Murray...

useless twat...
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Red Star on June 06, 2012, 23:08:34 PM
He just loses his bottle at this stage if every Grand Slam doesn't he.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: döm on June 07, 2012, 08:50:51 AM
He is of course a victim of his own success.  Had he never made it out of the top 100, 50 or even 20, he would never receive this level of criticism.  The fact is he's the 4th best player in the World where the top 3 have taken tennis to new levels of ability and consistency.  He's not quite in their league but still a fantastic player
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Jonners on June 07, 2012, 09:55:07 AM
Needs one of the Big 3 to retire, he is like the Anthrax of the Big 4 Thrash bands.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on June 07, 2012, 09:59:11 AM
at least he has the consolation of going home to this..

(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/About/General/2009/6/30/1246368477609/Kim-Sears-the-girlfriend--001.jpg)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: JonL on June 07, 2012, 10:35:47 AM
at least he has the consolation of going home to this..

(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/About/General/2009/6/30/1246368477609/Kim-Sears-the-girlfriend--001.jpg)

Has something been airbrushed out of that photo?

Every British player will be damned by the fact that they aren't quite good enough to win a GS. This makes them rubbish in many people's eyes.
The fact is that every generation of tennis payers is dominated by two or three big hitters, everyone else is as also ran. Unfortunately, Murray is the best of the also rans.
Wish I was a rubbish as him.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on June 07, 2012, 10:59:14 AM
It's nothing to do with tennis, or whatever country he comes from. Murray just has something dislikeable about him, imo, and I can't ever see that changing.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Red Star on June 07, 2012, 11:40:27 AM
Needs one of the Big 3 to retire, he is like the Anthrax of the Big 4 Thrash bands.

But he often loses to players that are not one of the top 3, as is the case here in the French Open. Even if Federer, Djocovic and Nadal had been absent from this tournament it wouldn't have made any difference.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: döm on June 07, 2012, 11:47:51 AM
But he often loses to players that are not one of the top 3, as is the case here in the French Open. Even if Federer, Djocovic and Nadal had been absent from this tournament it wouldn't have made any difference.

This is the 1st time in the last 2 years that he hasn't made the semis of a grand slam.   Still he made the quarters.  It's on a par with England making  the semi finals of the last 8 tournaments they'd been in.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Jonners on June 07, 2012, 12:53:10 PM
But he often loses to players that are not one of the top 3, as is the case here in the French Open. Even if Federer, Djocovic and Nadal had been absent from this tournament it wouldn't have made any difference.

And much as I dislike him personally, it sounds like he did well to get this far with a back injury still troubling him. He isnt the only one of the top 4 to lose on the way to a semi/final recently.

Would we be giving him this much grief if he was Irish or Welsh? I think probably not. The auld enemy stigma hangs around like a rather fetid smell still with many both north and south of the border
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on June 07, 2012, 21:23:16 PM


Would we be giving him this much grief if he was Irish or Welsh?

Yes mate, and if he was French, Dutch, German, Australian or any other nationality you can think of. He's just an annoying, dislikeable twat!
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Red Star on June 07, 2012, 23:21:35 PM
Would we be giving him this much grief if he was Irish or Welsh? I think probably not. The auld enemy stigma hangs around like a rather fetid smell still with many both north and south of the border

It's got nowt to do with it Jon. He is just a dour dislikeable twat regardless of his nationality. He's on borrowed time with his bird too I reckon, you can only punch above you weight for so long, no matter how much wonga you've got.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: NeilP on June 08, 2012, 08:45:24 AM
But he often loses to players that are not one of the top 3, as is the case here in the French Open. Even if Federer, Djocovic and Nadal had been absent from this tournament it wouldn't have made any difference.

Ferrer is probably the 3rd best player in the world atm, on clay
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Jonners on June 08, 2012, 08:50:52 AM
It's got nowt to do with it Jon. He is just a dour dislikeable twat regardless of his nationality. He's on borrowed time with his bird too I reckon, you can only punch above you weight for so long, no matter how much wonga you've got.

I dont recall this much hatred in the UK though for the likes of Lendl who was equally miserable.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: JonL on June 08, 2012, 09:55:55 AM
I don't think he's ever been forgiven for wearing the opposition shirt when England were playing in the World Cup many moons ago. Despite this being an (ill advised) snipe at a sniffy, "witty" journalist who hilariously asked Murray how he thought Scotland would do in the World Cup.

I think he's much better in public than he used to be.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Jonners on June 08, 2012, 10:17:51 AM
I don't think he's ever been forgiven for wearing the opposition shirt when England were playing in the World Cup many moons ago. Despite this being an (ill advised) snipe at a sniffy, "witty" journalist who hilariously asked Murray how he thought Scotland would do in the World Cup.

I think he's much better in public than he used to be.

And why shouldnt he? He's not English.

I wouldnt wear a Scotland shirt if they were playing sport.
Although, I wouldnt actually watch to be honest!!!


And as far as I am aware, he has never actually openly asked for the predominantly English crowd at Wimbledon to get behind him, has he?


Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on June 09, 2012, 09:44:10 AM
Nadal wiped the floor with Ferrer, losing only 5 games. Sorry Andy, it looks like it just isn't going to happen for you.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: döm on June 13, 2012, 17:37:49 PM
Haters gonna love....
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Slim on June 13, 2012, 23:58:53 PM
What an extraordinary game tennis is, where every player outside the top three is a loser and rubbish.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on June 14, 2012, 09:10:36 AM
oh dear.... hopefully this losing streak will come good for Wimbledon...
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Red Star on June 14, 2012, 10:51:23 AM
oh dear.... hopefully this losing streak will come good for Wimbledon...

It doesn't bode well does it. Yet another example to highlight the fact that he doesn't just lose to the top 3 players above him. Mahut is ranked 80 odd in the world. :-\
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: döm on June 15, 2012, 15:53:49 PM
It's not just Murray who loses to lower ranked players

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Rafael Nadal has been beaten by Philipp Kohlschreiber in the quarter-finals of the Gerry Weber Open. The German won 6-3 6-4
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on June 15, 2012, 22:46:13 PM
It's not just Murray who loses to lower ranked players

Nadal does it when it really matters though Dom.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Red Star on June 16, 2012, 08:04:01 AM
Nadal does it when it really matters though Dom.

Yes, the top 3 rarely lose to lower ranked players when it really matters.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Slim on June 16, 2012, 21:51:47 PM
Without actually doing the homework, I suspect Federer has lost to lower-ranked players in grand slams at least as often then Murray in the last few years.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on June 16, 2012, 22:17:08 PM
Without actually doing the homework, I suspect Federer has lost to lower-ranked players in grand slams at least as often then Murray in the last few years.

Probably has Slim, but look at the majors that he's won though.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: döm on June 16, 2012, 22:48:46 PM
Probably has Slim, but look at the majors that he's won though.

Yes, he's a much better player than Murray.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Andy42g on June 21, 2012, 12:23:44 PM
Murray 4th seed for Wimbledon. 
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on June 21, 2012, 19:21:50 PM
Murray 4th seed for Wimbledon.

Wouldn't matter if he was number 1, he ain't gonna win it.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Straight Shooter on June 23, 2012, 00:23:55 AM
Well, he's up against Nikolay Davydenko in the first round, so if he has one of his slow starts he could be watching Wimbers on the telly soon after!!
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on June 23, 2012, 09:49:08 AM
Well, he's up against Nikolay Davydenko in the first round, so if he has one of his slow starts he could be watching Wimbers on the telly soon after!!

He may as well be put out of his misery straight away mate before all the usual hullabaloo starts in the papers.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on June 25, 2012, 13:07:01 PM
is this the same hullbaloo that we had to endure when henman was "playing" ?
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on June 25, 2012, 13:12:40 PM
is this the same hullbaloo that we had to endure when henman was "playing" ?

No offence mate, but Henman was English. Murray is just another foreign player, and I don't know why the English press make such a fuss about him. Looking forward to seeing him get his arse kicked again as soon as possible.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on June 25, 2012, 13:23:36 PM
a foreign player  ??
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Andy42g on June 25, 2012, 13:41:19 PM
He may as well be put out of his misery straight away mate before all the usual hullabaloo starts in the papers.
I doubt he reads the papers. One thing about his apparent  dour Scots demeanor means he really doesn't give a feck about what the papers or anyone else thinks of him. He'll play as well as he can and if he puts in a performance or two like the one he did against Djokovic last year you never know. Course the issue is that the top 3 at the moment are just so good that everyone else has to play out of their socks and then some every match to get anywhere near them. Anyway - Murray will do his best and good luck to him.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Andy42g on June 25, 2012, 13:42:19 PM
a foreign player  ??
I think we did this already. Zoony's not British.
Oh and Tim was never anywhere near the quality player that Andy Murray is.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Jonners on June 25, 2012, 14:29:31 PM
I concur. Head and shoulders above Henman.

I sometimes wonder if as a result of our genuine lack of English talent at tennis, we have found it much easier to "adopt" players of other nationalities.

Is tennis such an individual sport that its more a case of supporting individuals rather than supporting someone because they share a nationality?

Or am I waffling for a change?
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on June 25, 2012, 14:34:32 PM
I think we did this already. Zoony's not British.
Oh and Tim was never anywhere near the quality player that Andy Murray is.

but still had the same if not more hullabaloo surrounding him...
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Andy42g on June 25, 2012, 14:42:32 PM
I concur. Head and shoulders above Henman.
I sometimes wonder if as a result of our genuine lack of English talent at tennis, we have found it much easier to "adopt" players of other nationalities.
Eh? Murray is a Brit. That's good enough to play for our Olympic team. But yes I'm sure if we had some decent English players our jingositic tendencies would come to the fore and we'd be slagging the "miserable jock" off . Well, some of us.  :(

However - having a friend who's teenage son is a great tennis prospect it becomes patently obvious that he'l never do it over here as he gets no college funding to get coached and his family cannot afford it. With a bit of luck will end up in the States on a sports scholarship at Uni. Other than that he'll have to quit and concentrate on his education.

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Is tennis such an individual sport that its more a case of supporting individuals rather than supporting someone because they share a nationality?
Does his happen in golf? Does one not support the great Irish players at the moment because they are not English? Obviously Zoony won't but what about normal people?  ;)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: döm on June 25, 2012, 14:51:37 PM
Over here in Ireland its a bit weird re support.  You will have dyed in the wool Liverpool supporters who are mad about Steven Gerard who would declare their total love and admiration for him.  As soon as he puts on the England shirt though they'll be desperate for him to fail.  To fail as much as possible.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Slim on June 25, 2012, 15:05:30 PM
No offence mate, but Henman was English. Murray is just another foreign player, and I don't know why the English press make such a fuss about him. Looking forward to seeing him get his arse kicked again as soon as possible.

How did you feel about having a foreign Prime Minister a couple of years ago?

I just have no time at all for the myth that England and Scotland are countries.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Jonners on June 25, 2012, 15:07:03 PM
Golf is another good/interesting example. an almost exclusively individual sport bar the Ryder cup and the various imitation competitions.

I do support the English players, it obviously helps that a few of them are very good, although annoyingly again not capable of winning a major by the looks of it.

I follow Mcilroy, but struggle for affinity with McDowell which I cant quite understand, as apparently he is a very nice guy and does some good things for disadvantaged people and his home town in general.

I neither like or dislike Murray, he is what he is and is very talented, but I certainly would not support him any more than I would a frenchman. For some reason I turn into an utter hypocrite when it comes to supporting Britains, and am happy to do it at the Olmpics/World Championships etc, but not at tennis. But then again at Wimbledon Murray is not competing for Great Britian, but for Scotland

Christ, I dont know! Im confusing myself now!!!!
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on June 25, 2012, 15:10:18 PM
no i think Murray is competing for GB surely  ?
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Andy42g on June 25, 2012, 15:11:00 PM
As soon as he puts on the England shirt though they'll be desperate for him to fail.  To fail as much as possible.
::) The rest of Britain really hates England when it comes to sport. It would be Ok if was a 'healthy rivalry' - but it's not it's hatred.
Living in Cardiff was great but whenever it came to England and sport there was a real nasty edge to things. Euro 96 was amazing, except for the fecking Welsh shouting for everyone but England in the pubs during the games. The semi final was so desperate but still they shouted for Germany. 
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Jonners on June 25, 2012, 15:13:13 PM
correct, which surprised me...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/tennis/6229638.stm
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Andy42g on June 25, 2012, 15:14:17 PM
no i think Murray is competing for GB surely  ?
GB yes - but secretly for Scotland obviously.  8)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on June 25, 2012, 15:14:57 PM
correct, which surprised me...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/tennis/6229638.stm

so not a foreigner then...
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on June 25, 2012, 15:15:54 PM
How did you feel about having a foreign Prime Minister a couple of years ago?



Well he wasn't as bad as the one we've got at the moment!
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Jonners on June 25, 2012, 15:21:22 PM
Well he wasn't as bad as the one we've got at the moment!

Surely not Zooners?
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on June 25, 2012, 16:06:40 PM
time for another gratuitous pic of Ms Sears...

(http://www.tenisportal.si/modules/aktualno/uploads/kim_sears.jpg)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on June 25, 2012, 16:36:25 PM
Obviously Zoony won't but what about normal people?  ;)

So I'm not normal because I don't share your view on something then? Lol, you've got a high opinion of yourself.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on June 25, 2012, 16:37:45 PM
Surely not Zooners?

In my view mate. At least Brown tried to give, all lord snooty does is take away.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Andrew_Haldane on June 25, 2012, 16:40:19 PM
In my view mate. At least Brown tried to give, all lord snooty does is take away.

Yeah he pretty much gave away our gold reserves
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on June 25, 2012, 16:43:00 PM
Yeah he pretty much gave away our gold reserves

I was thinking more along the lines of tax credits mate  ;).
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Jonners on June 25, 2012, 16:48:56 PM
And historically he will soon be taking away housing and other such benefits from the chav nation that Gordon and Tony so wonderfully put together for us
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on June 25, 2012, 16:49:12 PM
i have to say regarding a scot as a foreigner i don't think is  regarded as normal..
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on June 25, 2012, 16:51:55 PM
Just to clarify my position. I've got nothing against foreigners, far from it. The Saints have had plenty playing for them over the years, and I always get behind them. I can't get behind Murray though, he nailed his colours to the mast with his comments about the England football team a few years, so I'll never get behind him, as I think he's a twat basically.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on June 25, 2012, 16:53:59 PM
i have to say regarding a scot as a foreigner i don't think is  regarded as normal..

Well I don't think that coming onto a RUSH fan site and posting nothing but negative remarks about them is normal.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Andrew_Haldane on June 25, 2012, 16:55:53 PM
I was thinking more along the lines of tax credits mate  ;).

Another financial disaster for the UK economy
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on June 25, 2012, 16:56:00 PM
so if he'd said nice things about England you would have liked him then  ?
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Andrew_Haldane on June 25, 2012, 17:02:05 PM
Well I don't think that coming onto a RUSH fan site and posting nothing but negative remarks about them is normal.

Where all fans here Rob....it takes all sorts...do you really think someone who didn't like Rush would go to all the bother of writing so many parodies? Theres far too much depth, detail and fan knowledge in them.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on June 25, 2012, 17:02:29 PM
so if he'd said nice things about England you would have liked him then  ?

Not sure, but I certainly wouldn't have been as hostile towards him as I am now  ;).
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on June 25, 2012, 17:03:08 PM
posting nothing but negative remarks about them is normal.

plainly not true..
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on June 25, 2012, 17:03:49 PM
Where all fans here Rob....it takes all sorts...do you really think someone who didn't like Rush would go to all the bother of writing so many parodies? Theres far too much depth, detail and fan knowledge in them.

Oh yes mate, I know Fishy and Jonners only do it to wind people up.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on June 25, 2012, 17:05:36 PM
i have to say regarding a scot as a foreigner i don't think is  regarded as normal..

So you're saying that England and Scotland aren't different countries then? That's always how I was led to understand it.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Jonners on June 25, 2012, 17:06:18 PM
Not entirely true, I genuinely loathe Rush releases post Presto, so my abusing of them is genuine
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on June 25, 2012, 17:08:48 PM
So you're saying that England and Scotland aren't different countries then? That's always how I was led to understand it.

yes they're separate entitiies but i dont regard an english person as a foreigner.. they're either english or British...

Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Andrew_Haldane on June 25, 2012, 17:10:18 PM
Your still a fan though
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on June 25, 2012, 17:11:35 PM
Your still a fan though

yes a foreign fan obviously..
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on June 25, 2012, 17:12:16 PM
yes they're separate entitiies but i dont regard an english person as a foreigner.. they're either english or British...

That's fair enough mate, I've just always called every different country to England as foreign, and that isn't in anyway being disrespectful or anything, just the way I am. I'll never like Murray though  ;).
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on June 25, 2012, 17:13:45 PM
Not entirely true, I genuinely loathe Rush releases post Presto, so my abusing of them is genuine

Lol, but when I have a chat with you at The little owl before the LG arena show next may, you'll still be excited about going to see them again.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on June 25, 2012, 17:15:08 PM
yes a foreign fan obviously..

Yes mate, the same as Norwegian, Fuzzface, Gary L Grape and so on.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Jonners on June 25, 2012, 17:15:23 PM
Yes, but you promised you wouldnt tell people we had that "I'm excited" conversation!!!!!!!
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on June 25, 2012, 17:38:58 PM
Yes, but you promised you wouldnt tell people we had that "I'm excited" conversation!!!!!!!

Sorry mate, but it's nothing to be ashamed of you know.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Andrew_Haldane on June 25, 2012, 18:12:48 PM
Ohhh you guys!

























































get a room!  :-[
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Andy42g on June 25, 2012, 18:22:52 PM
Not sure, but I certainly wouldn't have been as hostile towards him as I am now  ;).
You are hostile to him because he doesn't support England?
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Andy42g on June 25, 2012, 18:24:17 PM
That's fair enough mate, I've just always called every different country to England as foreign, and that isn't in anyway being disrespectful or anything, just the way I am.
Told you - not normal.  ;D
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Andy42g on June 25, 2012, 18:35:15 PM
So I'm not normal because I don't share your view on something then? Lol, you've got a high opinion of yourself.
You know I did follow that one with a  ;)... but seeing as you bit....
I had this same conversation with a creationist who said exactly the same thing. That she's allowed to think what she likes and just because I can argue a case that her viewpoint is shared by a rather snall minority of people who have managed to box themselves into a certain way of thinking without any evidence then I have a high opinion of myself. Not being able to back up an opinion of how old the earth is or, say, your own nationality, with anything other than 'feeling' is rather different than not sharing the same view.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Slim on June 25, 2012, 19:23:10 PM
I can't get behind Murray though, he nailed his colours to the mast with his comments about the England football team a few years, so I'll never get behind him, as I think he's a twat basically.

That's fair enough, but this constant slagging him off for not winning grand slams seems bizarre to me. In any generation there are only a few players who win a slam. Doesn't make everyone else a hopeless loser.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: döm on June 25, 2012, 19:34:29 PM
That's fair enough, but this constant slagging him off for not winning grand slams seems bizarre to me. In any generation there are only a few players who win a slam. Doesn't make everyone else a hopeless loser.

Seems to me like it's just a stick to beat him with.  If Murray ever were to win one, i'm sure there'd be something else to attack him with.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on June 25, 2012, 20:18:15 PM
You are hostile to him because he doesn't support England?

No, it was the way that he wanted us to lose, and I'm sure that's the same reason that a lot of other English people dislike him.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on June 25, 2012, 20:20:37 PM
You know I did follow that one with a  ;)... but seeing as you bit....
I had this same conversation with a creationist who said exactly the same thing. That she's allowed to think what she likes and just because I can argue a case that her viewpoint is shared by a rather snall minority of people who have managed to box themselves into a certain way of thinking without any evidence then I have a high opinion of myself. Not being able to back up an opinion of how old the earth is or, say, your own nationality, with anything other than 'feeling' is rather different than not sharing the same view.

Thanks for that Andy.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Dixkot on June 25, 2012, 20:29:31 PM
No, it was the way that he wanted us to lose, and I'm sure that's the same reason that a lot of other English people dislike him.

And you and all the English people who dislike him for "the way he wanted England to lose" are misinformed as to what he did say.

He was the butt of an "English" commentator's "joke", when asked if he would be supporting Scotland in the World Cup.

Murray's "joke" response was he'd be supporting anyone but England.

End of conversation.  There was no more.  The press, as is their want, blew it up into something it wasn't.

Pretty sad that people dislike him for that.

Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on June 25, 2012, 20:37:45 PM
No, it was the way that he wanted us to lose, and I'm sure that's the same reason that a lot of other English people dislike him.

Seems the people who turn out to watch him at Wimbledon who presumably are mostly English don't take such a narrow view
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Andrew_Haldane on June 25, 2012, 20:52:17 PM
the press don't like anyone who doesn't play the(ir) game...the more differences/idiosyncrasies/(perceived) weaknesses they can highlight the more they antagonise the target and he/she (understandably) often can't hide their annoyance, something is said that provides a hook, a sound bite/interview is (mis)quoted, a snide piece is written, 6 million Chavs/Neds lap it up.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on June 25, 2012, 20:58:00 PM
Seems the people who turn out to watch him at Wimbledon who presumably are mostly English don't take such a narrow view

Well that's up to them.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on June 25, 2012, 21:03:02 PM
And you and all the English people who dislike him for "the way he wanted England to lose" are misinformed as to what he did say.

He was the butt of an "English" commentator's "joke", when asked if he would be supporting Scotland in the World Cup.

Murray's "joke" response was he'd be supporting anyone but England.

End of conversation.  There was no more.  The press, as is their want, blew it up into something it wasn't.

Pretty sad that people dislike him for that.

Fair enough Dix, but I doubt many who dislike him will change their opinion after reading that mate  ;). It'd be a dull world if we all liked each other anyway.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on June 25, 2012, 22:42:03 PM
Fair enough Dix, but I doubt many who dislike him will change their opinion after reading that mate  ;). It'd be a dull world if we all liked each other anyway.

exactly..why let the truth get in the way ...
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Bez on June 26, 2012, 08:03:59 AM
exactly..why let the truth get in the way ...

He's thoroughly dislikeable....as is his mother....

The England thing is just another string to that particular racket.... ::)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on June 26, 2012, 09:09:33 AM
He's thoroughly dislikeable....as is his mother....

The England thing is just another string to that particular racket.... ::)

not convinced he's thoroughly dislikeable.. yes he's a bit dour and mumbles a lot.. agree he could do with ditching his mom...
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Andrew_Haldane on June 26, 2012, 09:53:57 AM
Maybe some folk forget he was right in the middle of the Dunblane school massacre and that his parents  seperated in the same year...he was Nine at the time
 ..thats going to have a profound affect on your personality and the way you deal with people. OmI think he has done incredibly well. I cant think of any other time in my life where the top three mens tennis players were so focused, mentally strong and had such athleticism and  talent. I cant see any of the past greats being able to crack the current top three....maybe Sampras could get close but the rest would be blown away.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Jonners on June 26, 2012, 09:54:37 AM
Davydenko has had a dig in the press today, following on from Virginia Wade calling him a "Drama queen"

Reckons he's a bit of an object of ridicule in the locker rooms
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on June 26, 2012, 10:01:18 AM
best of luck to him today.. he may need it...
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Jonners on June 26, 2012, 10:34:36 AM
Maybe some folk forget he was right in the middle of the Dunblane school massacre and that his parents  seperated in the same year...he was Nine at the time
 ..thats going to have a profound affect on your personality and the way you deal with people. OmI think he has done incredibly well. I cant think of any other time in my life where the top three mens tennis players were so focused, mentally strong and had such athleticism and  talent. I cant see any of the past greats being able to crack the current top three....maybe Sampras could get close but the rest would be blown away.

Interesting debate, and almost impossible to come to a conclusion.

Would a great in a previous era be great now? You have to assume the answer is yes, assuming they were given the same access to training, nutrition, technology, stats etc
I think to say that todays sportsmen are "better" than sportsmen of yesteryear is misguided
So, I imagine a Borg, Macinroe, Sampras, Edberg, Lendl, Fred Perry etc would probably succeed

In the same way, I believe a Bradman, Jesse Owens, Eddie Merckzx, Ali, Jack Nicklaus etc would be stand out sportsmen in todays era.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on June 26, 2012, 16:36:47 PM
he'll be lucky to get on court today..Nadal seems to be struggling a bit...
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on June 26, 2012, 16:55:50 PM
He's thoroughly dislikeable....as is his mother....

The England thing is just another string to that particular racket.... ::)

Thank you mate, I know I can always rely on you and Red Star to back me up on this one  ;).
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Dixkot on June 26, 2012, 18:38:11 PM


The likeable Scot has started well.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Dixkot on June 26, 2012, 18:49:49 PM


And Andy Murray is playing very well too.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Bez on June 26, 2012, 20:29:35 PM
Thank you mate, I know I can always rely on you and Red Star to back me up on this one  ;).

Easy Tiger....I don't want my Scots chums thinking its a racist thing.... ;D
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Bez on June 26, 2012, 20:29:54 PM

And Andy Murray is playing very well too.

 ;D
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on June 26, 2012, 21:07:28 PM
Easy Tiger....I don't want my Scots chums thinking its a racist thing.... ;D

It's definitely not racist mate, just a healthy rivalry between people from 2 different countries.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on June 26, 2012, 21:26:56 PM
Superb start from Murray..well done
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Slim on June 27, 2012, 10:55:00 AM
Marvellous start from the plucky Brit.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on June 27, 2012, 17:05:21 PM
Nothing much to get excited about yet, bit dull really.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Andy42g on June 27, 2012, 23:08:47 PM
Great win for Murray - he battered a very strong opponent. All the really tall men are in his side of the draw this year.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: NeilP on June 28, 2012, 08:25:19 AM
will be be seeing that pic of his squeeze in the next 7 days?
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on June 28, 2012, 13:28:04 PM
best of luck to this likeable young man for today...
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Bez on June 28, 2012, 13:36:58 PM
best of luck to this likeable young man for today...

I think you may have strayed into the wrong thread McFishy - no likeable young men here....
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on June 28, 2012, 13:41:21 PM
I think you may have strayed into the wrong thread McFishy - no likeable young men here....

i disagree Zoony now give Bez his account back..
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Andy42g on June 28, 2012, 14:54:05 PM
... anyway...

This guy Karlovic in round two is about 8 feet tall.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on June 28, 2012, 15:22:13 PM
one set up and first game in second set up :)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on June 28, 2012, 16:22:45 PM
ah.. lost second on the tie break..could be a bit of a slogging match this one
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Jonners on June 28, 2012, 16:23:08 PM
come on Karlovich!!!!
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on June 28, 2012, 16:26:29 PM
keep playing low shots... that'll  feck the big c*** up :)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on June 28, 2012, 16:27:41 PM
... anyway...

This guy Karlovic in round two is about 8 feet tall.

I think he's one of those players who's never going to win a slam, but the top guys fear him in the early rounds.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on June 28, 2012, 16:28:34 PM
come on Karlovich!!!!

Lol, you're worse than me mate!
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on June 28, 2012, 16:36:38 PM
the delightful Ms Sears looking as pretty as a picture..
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on June 28, 2012, 16:44:02 PM
and breaks him 5-2 second set :) cmon Andy...
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on June 28, 2012, 18:29:40 PM
the delightful Ms Sears looking as pretty as a picture..

Pretty maybe, but you wouldn't call her horny.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on June 28, 2012, 18:31:34 PM
Credit where it's due to Murray, Karlovic is a dangerous opponent, but people shouldn't start getting carried away. As 4th seed, theoretically the Scot is expected to make the semi's at least.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: NeilP on June 28, 2012, 20:50:54 PM
Pretty maybe, but you wouldn't call her horny.


oh, I don't know..............

(http://www.playerwives.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/guardian.jpg)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on June 28, 2012, 20:57:59 PM

oh, I don't know..............

(http://www.playerwives.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/guardian.jpg)

Na mate, same as Kate Middleton, pretty enough, but they just haven't got that "something".
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: NeilP on June 28, 2012, 21:23:57 PM
Na mate, same as Kate Middleton, pretty enough, but they just haven't got that "something".


never seen KM like this tbh.....

(http://nsm05.casimages.com/img/2011/06/13//1106130939461300958318489.jpg)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: NeilP on June 28, 2012, 21:56:51 PM
Anyway..... Nadal is currently on the brink of going out
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Bez on June 28, 2012, 22:01:41 PM

oh, I don't know..............

(http://www.playerwives.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/guardian.jpg)

Have you photo-shopped out the banana ?

Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: NeilP on June 28, 2012, 22:04:33 PM
Nadal out.... give it to Murray now ;)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Dixkot on June 28, 2012, 22:05:01 PM
Nadal out.... give it to Murray now ;)

Incredible.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: NeilP on June 28, 2012, 22:06:07 PM
that lad could give it a fair crack...
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Dixkot on June 28, 2012, 22:07:25 PM
that lad could give it a fair crack...

Not half. Can he play like that ever again?
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: NeilP on June 28, 2012, 22:09:42 PM
well if he does, he'll be pretty close to winning it.

Outgrageous power and seems a nice lad
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Slim on June 28, 2012, 22:20:34 PM
He just seemed to have The Force - a look in his eye that said he knew he was absolutely in the zone. Superb.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: döm on June 28, 2012, 22:23:40 PM
So the big boys do lose when it matters..... Who knew ?
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Jonners on June 28, 2012, 22:25:05 PM
Agreed

Nadal's loss is massive, a route to the final has opened

Now, just need Djokovic and Federer to have some sort of on court collision in the semi....
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Red Star on June 29, 2012, 07:49:51 AM
So the big boys do lose when it matters..... Who knew ?

True, but infrequently - as the commentator said, the last time Nadal lost at this stage of a Grand Slam was 7 years ago.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on June 29, 2012, 08:53:35 AM
nadal.. he's shit isn't he....?
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on June 29, 2012, 08:55:01 AM
Na mate, same as Kate Middleton, pretty enough, but they just haven't got that "something".

i think the "something" is provided by Murray...
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on June 29, 2012, 14:16:15 PM
Djocovik loses first set to Stepanek..interesting...
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on June 29, 2012, 14:53:24 PM
(http://l.yimg.com/ao/sp/j_ristic_400.jpg)

certainly wouldn't mind being in a sears/Jelena Ristic sandwich  ::) 8)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: NeilP on June 29, 2012, 15:55:19 PM
Have you seen Roddick's squeeze Fishy?
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Jonners on June 29, 2012, 16:08:44 PM
Martina Navratilova's girlfriend

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3660/3409050077_11417315ff.jpg)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on June 29, 2012, 16:09:21 PM
Have you seen Roddick's squeeze Fishy?

 (http://www.totalsportsmadness.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/brooklyn_decker.jpg)

blimey   :P :P ::) 8)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Andy42g on June 29, 2012, 16:09:33 PM
Djocovik loses first set to Stepanek..interesting...
Hmm...
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on June 29, 2012, 16:11:16 PM
Hmm...

forget it.. 2-1 down and 5-2 in the fourth...
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Andy42g on June 29, 2012, 16:11:37 PM
(http://l.yimg.com/ao/sp/j_ristic_400.jpg)
:) Nice. Do these fit blondes just line up and the players pick one each?
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Andy42g on June 29, 2012, 16:12:47 PM
forget it.. 2-1 down and 5-2 in the fourth...
Translation.... "Hmm..."  :)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on June 29, 2012, 20:58:49 PM
Federer back to 2-2 after being 2 sets down. I don't think Murray will win it though, even if it's there for the taking.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on June 29, 2012, 21:02:52 PM
(http://www.totalsportsmadness.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/brooklyn_decker.jpg)

blimey   :P :P ::) 8)

I always thought "The Swiss miss" was a good player....

http://www.google.com/imgres?start=250&hl=en&biw=1024&bih=574&addh=36&tbm=isch&tbnid=tSnQ6Wd80RPSrM:&imgrefurl=http://www.peepat.com/photos/Tennis_Stars_Galleries_59/Martina_Hingis_1_57.aspx&docid=tPfCQ1L403X2OM&imgurl=http://www.peepat.com/Images/Photos/Ico_912.jpg&w=320&h=490&ei=SAnuT6udIcex0AW7yJ3rDQ&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=372&vpy=148&dur=2390&hovh=278&hovw=181&tx=113&ty=163&sig=108501473713932594707&page=11&tbnh=134&tbnw=88&ndsp=25&ved=1t:429,r:3,s:250,i:184
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: döm on June 29, 2012, 21:19:59 PM
Shame for Benneteau that he's  only just recovered from a broken collar bone.  Had he been fully fit i think he could well have beaten Federer tonight
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: NeilP on June 29, 2012, 22:31:27 PM
(http://www.totalsportsmadness.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/brooklyn_decker.jpg)

blimey   :P :P ::) 8)

not as good as the pic I was going to post of her tbh :o
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Pudders on June 30, 2012, 00:06:34 AM
not as good as the pic I was going to post of her tbh :o

...taps fingers impatiently......
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on June 30, 2012, 18:30:30 PM
Not half. Can he play like that ever again?

Flash in the pan, beaten in straight sets today.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Red Star on June 30, 2012, 21:08:30 PM
What a thoroughly likeable character the unseeded Cypriot Marcos Baghdatis is. Even the partisan centre court Murray crowd are warming to  the plucky underdog. His personality is winning them over. What a contrast with his bad tempered opponent.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on June 30, 2012, 22:06:51 PM
What a thoroughly likeable character the unseeded Cypriot Marcos Baghdatis is. Even the partisan centre court Murray crowd are warming to  the plucky underdog. His personality is winning them over. What a contrast with his bad tempered opponent.

You've said just what I was thinking mate.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Dixkot on June 30, 2012, 23:05:18 PM


Great win for the cheeky, cheery Scottish chappy.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on June 30, 2012, 23:26:17 PM
Well done Andy. Only the small minded xenophobes who seem to inhabit this thread would begrudge you that win,

I take it you're having a pop at me, won't lose no sleep over that though. No, I'm not begrudging him his win, sounded like he had to dig deep. Like they said on the commentary though, he should have been dominating an opponent who is number 42 in the world, and on his way down, more than he did. Oh well, good luck to Cilic in the next round  ;).
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Slim on June 30, 2012, 23:27:52 PM
I didn't see all of the game but I really enjoyed what I did see. What a lovely change from the mens' tennis I remember from the '90s.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on June 30, 2012, 23:32:08 PM
I didn't see all of the game but I really enjoyed what I did see. What a lovely change from the mens' tennis I remember from the '90s.

Yes Slim, better to see some good rallies than all the boom boom stuff we've had in the past.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Slim on June 30, 2012, 23:40:57 PM
Yes. THWACK! THWACK! next point. THWACK! next point. THWACK! THWACK!  - etc.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Topper on July 01, 2012, 09:13:37 AM
he should have been dominating an opponent who is number 42 in the world, and on his way down, more than he did..

I'm not having a dig Zoony. Just wanted to say. Number 42 in the WORLD is pretty darn good. Even if he is past his best, guys like that get motivated against higher ranked opponents. I was supporting the guy. Been around for years. Cool, let's see how the next guy does. :)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on July 01, 2012, 09:27:23 AM
I'm not having a dig Zoony.

I wouldn't mind if you were Felix, it's all part of the ride on here mate  ;).
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Andy42g on July 01, 2012, 18:33:17 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/tennis/18664872
Murray speaks. Great win. Must be fab to play a match like that under the roof on centre court.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on July 01, 2012, 20:47:08 PM
Must be fab to play a match like that under the roof on centre court.

It had to be done I suppose, but still better to see Wimbledon played in natural conditions.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Andy42g on July 02, 2012, 12:36:23 PM
It had to be done I suppose, but still better to see Wimbledon played in natural conditions.
In the rain?
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on July 02, 2012, 12:59:38 PM
In the rain?

Obviously not! You know what I'm on about.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on July 02, 2012, 15:50:16 PM
Murray on and lost first game...
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Jonners on July 02, 2012, 15:59:48 PM
More imprtantly Sharapova is out!

Gutted
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on July 02, 2012, 16:01:44 PM
thats better 3-2 up :)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on July 02, 2012, 16:32:17 PM
first set in the bag :)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Andy42g on July 02, 2012, 18:45:12 PM
Obviously not! You know what I'm on about.
I never really know what you are on about to be honest.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on July 03, 2012, 04:56:19 AM
I never really know what you are on about to be honest.

Im a man of mystery  ;).
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Bez on July 03, 2012, 07:46:01 AM
Doesn't actually do very much for me, she has a "harsh" look and I'm not convinced by all of the grunting - not very feminine....

I'm not saying I wouldn't, but given a choice there are women who would be much higher up the list  ::)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Andrew_Haldane on July 03, 2012, 08:29:48 AM
I don't suppose either of you two are on her fantasy list either.....doubt any of us tnms males would warrant a second look come to that..
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Jonners on July 03, 2012, 09:37:05 AM
Some very alluring bikini shots of hers if you google image her, she scrubs up nicely off the court

Fairly safe to say if Djokovic keeps playing the way he is then his name is on the trophy this year again
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Bez on July 03, 2012, 09:48:38 AM
I don't suppose either of you two are on her fantasy list either.....doubt any of us tnms males would warrant a second look come to that..

True dat !
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Pudders on July 03, 2012, 13:30:39 PM
In fairness she only grunts when she's hitting balls.........
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Bez on July 03, 2012, 13:44:15 PM
In fairness she only grunts when she's hitting balls.........

Sorry, can't resist....

Or when balls are hitting her ?  ::)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Red Star on July 03, 2012, 14:04:32 PM
Murray looking in complete control at 2 sets up. Should cruise through the 3rd for a straight sets win over Cilic.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Jonners on July 03, 2012, 14:08:53 PM
Murray looking in complete control at 2 sets up. Should cruise through the 3rd for a straight sets win over Cilic.

Who is this?
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on July 03, 2012, 14:12:44 PM
Murray looking in complete control at 2 sets up. Should cruise through the 3rd for a straight sets win over Cilic.

and indeed he does...:)  well done Andy
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Red Star on July 03, 2012, 14:18:08 PM
Yes, sorry for drifting back on topic.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on July 03, 2012, 14:23:10 PM
think this deserves another gratuituous pic..

 (http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_GWJatwb-WlI/TEbp-V2WZgI/AAAAAAAAMpA/j6IJqlpA42A/s1600/murray-sears-2.jpg)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Red Star on July 03, 2012, 14:27:22 PM
and indeed he does...:)  well done Andy

Now through very convincingly.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Jonners on July 03, 2012, 14:30:06 PM
think this deserves another gratuituous pic..

 (http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_GWJatwb-WlI/TEbp-V2WZgI/AAAAAAAAMpA/j6IJqlpA42A/s1600/murray-sears-2.jpg)

She got a cricket box on her ....box?
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Andy42g on July 03, 2012, 16:33:02 PM
Who is this?
Murray - cheeky chirpy Brit tennis player. Look out for him: he's pretty good.  :)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Jonners on July 03, 2012, 17:03:32 PM
No, I meant who had hacked Chris's account.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Red Star on July 03, 2012, 17:28:36 PM
No, I meant who had hacked Chris's account.

I'm no fan of his but like to credit where it's due.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Dixkot on July 03, 2012, 17:35:41 PM

Following a complaint, I have edited a couple of posts and removed another couple.

Please keep it out the gutter guys.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Red Star on July 03, 2012, 18:35:45 PM
Did I miss something? :o
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Richard_2112 on July 03, 2012, 18:55:40 PM
Anyone see the lass on Centre Court right now who knocked out Sharapova? Sabine Lisicki.

Now there's a pair of tighs I wouldn't mind having wrapped around my face....
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Bez on July 03, 2012, 21:14:11 PM
Following a complaint, I have edited a couple of posts and removed another couple.

Please keep it out the gutter guys.

who complained....tell them to get a life and grow up. Pathetic
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on July 03, 2012, 22:54:18 PM
Anyone see the lass on Centre Court right now who knocked out Sharapova? Sabine Lisicki.

Now there's a pair of tighs I wouldn't mind having wrapped around my face....

Lisicki..she's gorgeous.. yeah who the hell complained and about what ? jaysus...
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Red Star on July 04, 2012, 08:45:45 AM
yeah who the hell complained and about what ? jaysus...

Perhaps the person concerned would like to enlighten us as to what they found offensive?
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Jonners on July 04, 2012, 08:51:29 AM
Maybe Andy Murray is a member (of this site)?
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Bez on July 04, 2012, 09:02:27 AM
Perhaps the person concerned would like to enlighten us as to what they found offensive?

There were some "comments" about Sharapova yesterday....but nothing worse than a bit of schoolboy humour...

I'm really quite pissed off that my posts have been edited with no explanation as to why or a right of redress
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on July 04, 2012, 09:11:25 AM
ah just realised it was my post that got wiped.. wtf...
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Matt2112 on July 04, 2012, 11:34:16 AM
who complained....tell them to get a life and grow up. Pathetic

I agree.  Were they abusive?  Threatening?  Inciting?

Other than to someone's precious hair-trigger sense of special entitlement to political correctness, obviously...  ::)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Jonners on July 04, 2012, 11:47:18 AM
I think it was the teabagging of Sharapova post that might have stirred up the hornets nest
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on July 04, 2012, 11:50:29 AM
see this is the problem.. that post was meant in terms of tennis balls in her mouth because she's such a grunting mare.....ie it might be an option to shut her up.....
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Red Star on July 04, 2012, 12:34:44 PM
see this is the problem.. that post was meant in terms of tennis balls in her mouth because she's such a grunting mare.....ie it might be an option to shut her up.....

Yes, she is easy on the eyes but annoying beyond belief on the ears. They should bring in rules to stop it - absolutely unnecessary >:(
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Jonners on July 04, 2012, 12:46:27 PM
oddly enough they are thinking about it.

They grunt so that the other player cant hear the sound of the ball hitting their racket, as different shots sound different, and also the timing would be out if you cant hear it.

So, its cheating really
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Matt2112 on July 04, 2012, 13:00:06 PM
Yes, I simply can't watch Sharapova games with her ludicrously loud grunting.  It's most unfeminine, too.  :-\
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Andrew_Haldane on July 04, 2012, 14:13:56 PM
I agree.  Were they abusive?  Threatening?  Inciting?

Other than to someone's precious hair-trigger sense of special entitlement to political correctness, obviously...  ::)

..... :-\   it wasn't me actually..... this time  ;D   ...... I do think The Basement would take the edge of the need/temptation to er go down that route in the regular threads so often though
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on July 04, 2012, 15:39:45 PM
anyway.. Murray 3-1 down after being broken first set..
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on July 04, 2012, 15:53:23 PM
5-2 down..:(
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Jonners on July 04, 2012, 16:04:11 PM
Maybe Murray misread Ferrer on the board for Federer, and thats why he is crumbling
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on July 04, 2012, 16:17:46 PM
6-6 tie break...
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on July 04, 2012, 16:27:37 PM
bugger....
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: NeilP on July 04, 2012, 18:52:41 PM
Another nail biter....
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: döm on July 04, 2012, 18:53:48 PM
Tsonga waiting in the semis...
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on July 04, 2012, 19:52:57 PM
brilliant ..:)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Red Star on July 04, 2012, 21:49:05 PM
Fair play, well done Murray.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Andy42g on July 05, 2012, 10:12:39 AM
Fabulous win. Great match, and congrats to Andy Murray for getting to yet another big semi final: a massive achievement in itself.
Tsonga up next. Getting towards the pointy end now.

Oh - and it was me who complained about the gutter standard posts about the merits or otherwise of Sharapova. You wanna talk dirty about girls young enough to be your daughters do it elsewhere eh?   >:(
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Red Star on July 05, 2012, 10:51:24 AM
Tsonga up next. Getting towards the pointy end now.

Yes, Tsonga is a very good player and a firm favourite with the crowd too. Murray should win as he is ranked higher but will he bottle it again when it matters? We shall see.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: pdw1 on July 05, 2012, 10:58:05 AM
Can anyone explain how the seeding works?
Surely the draw should be set up so that the semi finals are
 #1 seed vs #4 seed
and
 #2 vs #3
?
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: döm on July 05, 2012, 11:18:35 AM
Can anyone explain how the seeding works?
Surely the draw should be set up so that the semi finals are
 #1 seed vs #4 seed
and
 #2 vs #3
?

Good point as 4th and 5th seeds Tsonga and Murray should have met in the qtrs not the semis ?
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: pdw1 on July 05, 2012, 11:34:53 AM
As usual Wikipedia has all the answers:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single-elimination_tournament

Seeding
Main article: Seed (sports)

Opponents may be allocated randomly (such as in the FA Cup); however, since the "luck of the draw" may result in the highest-rated competitors being scheduled to face each other early in the competition, seeding is often used to prevent this. Brackets are set up so that the top two seeds could not possibly meet until the final round (should both advance that far), none of the top four can meet prior to the semifinals, and so on. If no seeding is used, the tournament is called a random knockout tournament.

One version of seeding is where brackets are set up so that the quarterfinal pairings (barring any upsets) would be the 1 seed vs. the 8 seed, 2 vs. 7, 3 vs. 6 and 4 vs. 5; however, this is not the procedure that is followed in most tennis tournaments, where the 1 and 2 seeds are placed in separate brackets, but then the 3 and 4 seeds are assigned to their brackets randomly, and so too are seeds 5 through 8, and so on. This may result in some brackets consisting of stronger players than other brackets, and since only the top 32 players are seeded at all in Tennis Grand Slam tournaments, it is conceivable that the 33rd-best player in a 128-player field could end up playing the top seed in the first round. While this may seem unfair to a casual observer, it should be pointed out that rankings of tennis players are generated by computers, and players tend to change ranking positions very gradually, so that a more equitable method of determining the pairings might result in many of the same head-to-head matchups being repeated over and over again in successive tournaments.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: döm on July 05, 2012, 11:54:27 AM
Makes sense now -  where would we be without wiki?
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Andy42g on July 05, 2012, 12:19:58 PM
Good point as 4th and 5th seeds Tsonga and Murray should have met in the qtrs not the semis ?
One of them likely would not have been there if Nadal hadn't been knocked out earlier. Or at least one seed outside the top 4 gets in because of this.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Matt2112 on July 05, 2012, 12:40:08 PM
Oh - and it was me who complained about the gutter standard posts about the merits or otherwise of Sharapova. You wanna talk dirty about girls young enough to be your daughters do it elsewhere eh?   >:(

Well, if you put it like that...  :)  That said, legally I'm the same generation as her.  So that makes me exempt, then?  Hurrah!  ;) ;D
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Andy42g on July 05, 2012, 14:36:36 PM
Serena W vs Azarenka should be a cracker. Can't see Serena losing this one, but you never know.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Jonners on July 05, 2012, 15:48:24 PM
Seemed to be moving more freely as the tournament has progressed. Think she would be a popular winner again, always seems quite humble
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on July 05, 2012, 21:07:33 PM
who complained....tell them to get a life and grow up. Pathetic

Well the person who was offended has owned up mate. He'd have a shock if he heard the things that were talked about in our factory  ;).
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Andy42g on July 05, 2012, 22:11:20 PM
Seemed to be moving more freely as the tournament has progressed. Think she would be a popular winner again, always seems quite humble
Indeed. Massive serving this year. Unstoppable.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Richard_2112 on July 05, 2012, 22:22:32 PM
You wanna talk dirty about girls young enough to be your daughters do it elsewhere eh?   >:(

Sharapova is actually older than me....  ;)

But back to tennis:

I'm glad Serina knocked out Azarenka. I can't stand her style of tennis; namely hooting like a bloody owl every time she hits the ball!

Andy Murray game tomorrow should be an absolute belter!
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Andy42g on July 05, 2012, 22:49:23 PM
Well the person who was offended has owned up mate. He'd have a shock if he heard the things that were talked about in our factory  ;).
::) The point being that your factory, with it's ever so manly banter all that, is not an open to the public forum which for instance my kids might happen upon. 
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Andy42g on July 05, 2012, 22:53:01 PM
Sharapova is actually older than me....  ;)
:) You are allowed to talk about her tits then.  :o

Quote
I'm glad Serina knocked out Azarenka. I can't stand her style of tennis; namely hooting like a bloody owl every time she hits the ball!
Was listening to this on the radio and yes she's annoyingly loud.

Quote
Andy Murray game tomorrow should be an absolute belter!
Indeed. As should Fed and Djokovic. Hurrah for the new improved live BBC iPlayer.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on July 06, 2012, 07:56:49 AM
Good luck to Murray for this afternoon...and think he'll do it...:)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: döm on July 06, 2012, 08:16:51 AM
Allez Jo !   ;)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Red Star on July 06, 2012, 08:38:38 AM
Good luck to Murray for this afternoon...and think he'll do it...:)

Well, he is the clear favourite to win but then this is Andy Murray in the semi of a Grand Slam ::)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Bez on July 06, 2012, 11:12:16 AM

Oh - and it was me who complained about the gutter standard posts about the merits or otherwise of Sharapova. You wanna talk dirty about girls young enough to be your daughters do it elsewhere eh?   >:(

Oh dear, maybe the internet isn't the place for you then....its seems a bit rough and tough.

I hear that the "mum's network" is nice
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Bez on July 06, 2012, 11:24:20 AM
......is not an open to the public forum which for instance my kids might happen upon.

This IS an open forum. If you're worried about things that your kids might read while browsing on here then take appropriate steps to protect them, like logging off and clearing the cache in your browser when they're unsupervised on the internet, installing a net-nanny, make sure that they don't have access to the internet un-supervised, that PCs are only available to them in rooms where an adult is present (with the screen facing the room, not the wall), use parental controls in software, prevent searches for specific words etc.

I'm sure that there's advice available on the internet via a quick Google search, or child friendly search engine - "yahooligans" is one I believe

I'd be more worried that they're exposed to your particular version of right and wrong, your narrow minded, and frankly bigoted, views on religion and homoeopathy, alternate lifestyles and your un-willingness to see an unconventional view.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Andy42g on July 06, 2012, 12:08:20 PM
This IS an open forum. If you're worried about things that your kids might read while browsing on here then take appropriate steps to protect them, like logging off and clearing the cache in your browser when they're unsupervised on the internet, installing a net-nanny, make sure that they don't have access to the internet un-supervised, that PCs are only available to them in rooms where an adult is present (with the screen facing the room, not the wall), use parental controls in software, prevent searches for specific words etc.
Cheers for your excellent advice.  You lot carry on about tits in the tennis thread and I'll stick t-n-m-s behind the net guard I have installed. Sorted.

Quote
I'd be more worried that they're exposed to your particular version of right and wrong, your narrow minded, and frankly bigoted, views on religion and homoeopathy, alternate lifestyles and your un-willingness to see an unconventional view.
Well now...  :) You wanna do this in another thread then go ahead: would be fun. This one is for tennis last I heard. And tits apparently...
EDIT: in the Dawkins thread.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Andy42g on July 06, 2012, 14:51:16 PM
Rog 2 sets to 1 up. Blimey what a match.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Jonners on July 06, 2012, 16:03:35 PM
christ Rog took him apart
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on July 06, 2012, 16:12:38 PM
c'mon Murray...

3 up in the first set..:)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Andrew_Haldane on July 06, 2012, 17:43:15 PM
Murray 2 sets up 1 -4 down third set
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Pudders on July 06, 2012, 18:02:01 PM
I s it all going Pete Tsong?
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: döm on July 06, 2012, 18:51:39 PM
Sad for Tsonga but happy that Murrsy gets to contest his first Wimbledon final
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Richard_2112 on July 06, 2012, 18:53:07 PM
He's only gone and bloody done it! Now all he's got to do is beat possibly the greatest player ever...
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Dixkot on July 06, 2012, 18:58:34 PM


Fantastic.  Well done Andy Murray.  And such a lovely guy too......
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on July 06, 2012, 19:06:39 PM
Good luck to Murray for this afternoon...and think he'll do it...:)

YES !! brilliant from the cheeky. cheery scot...
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Slim on July 06, 2012, 19:07:56 PM
 
Oh dear, maybe the internet isn't the place for you then....its seems a bit rough and tough.

I hear that the "mum's network" is nice

 ;D  ;D
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Slim on July 06, 2012, 19:14:21 PM
Andy won't get another chance like this. Federer is clearly vulnerable - his track record over the last three or four years is testament to that. Now or never. First Brit in the final at Wimbledon since 1938 and the last for god-knows how long.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Pudders on July 06, 2012, 19:17:01 PM
Brilliant, enjoyed that!
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Andrew_Haldane on July 06, 2012, 19:17:59 PM
Well done to the flying Scotsman.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Digital Matt on July 06, 2012, 20:44:06 PM
The outcome of the match determined on the basis of an appeal left me deflated.
I could see Tsonga pulling it back and the match reaching an epic conclusion. Still, the final will be all that and more.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Digital Matt on July 06, 2012, 20:46:43 PM
I forgot to say that the only reason I watched it, as interested as I am, is cos the golf course was closed.........again!   
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Red Star on July 06, 2012, 21:42:14 PM
And such a lovely guy too......

He may well be, he just hides it well. Congratulations to Murray however on getting to the final. :)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on July 06, 2012, 21:46:52 PM
Fair play to him for getting to the final, an achievement in itself. I won't be making any effort to watch it though, just a match between a Swiss guy and a Scotsman, and I've got no alliegance to either. Not a massive tennis fan either if I'm honest.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Jonners on July 06, 2012, 22:06:18 PM
Zooners, from you thats almost a marriage proposal to Murray!
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on July 06, 2012, 22:08:25 PM
And I'm sure Murray ain't giving a shit about you Zoony
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on July 06, 2012, 22:09:34 PM
Zooners, from you thats almost a marriage proposal to Murray!

I'm back to normal about him in the Clockwork angels reaction thread mate.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on July 06, 2012, 22:11:06 PM
And I'm sure Murray ain't giving a shit about you Zoony

Bit of a daft comment for a man of your intelligence Fishy, I doubt the miserable twat knows, or has even heard of anyone on here.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Jonners on July 06, 2012, 23:43:37 PM
I'm back to normal about him in the Clockwork angels reaction thread mate.

normal service resumed!

I have decided his voice could well be a universal cure for insomnia though when he retires from a succesful tennis carerr, could almost be an x-men character called Insomnio or similar
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: captainkurtz on July 07, 2012, 09:21:46 AM
Quite refreshing to see a high profile sportsman not be a total media whore.  What you see is what you get.

Good luck to Murray tomorrow.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Red Star on July 07, 2012, 11:16:53 AM
Quite refreshing to see a high profile sportsman not be a total media whore.  What you see is what you get.

Yes, although it's very difficult to be a media whore when you are naturally boring, dreary and monotone. ;)

Good luck to him in the final though, he will certainly need it against Federer.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Andrew_Haldane on July 07, 2012, 16:46:28 PM
Yes, although it's very difficult to be a media whore when you are naturally boring, dreary and monotone. ;)

Good luck to him in the final though, he will certainly need it against Federer.

Yes it just doesn't go down well to be your own man, fail to conform to the fake hollywood smiley, Tim Henman plucky loser type image or be in impatient, bored or anyway dismissive of the gutter press opinion formers  to the non thinking  readersheep (sic)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Red Star on July 07, 2012, 18:18:31 PM
Yes it just doesn't go down well to be your own man, fail to conform to the fake hollywood smiley, Tim Henman plucky loser type image or be in impatient, bored or anyway dismissive of the gutter press opinion formers  to the non thinking  readersheep (sic)

Yes, yes, yes, all very commendable but you can't hide the fact that the guy is just naturally plain DULL. I mean come on, he makes my accountant look charismatic ffs ::)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Andrew_Haldane on July 07, 2012, 18:24:01 PM
You see what you see you dont know who he is in private hes not public property. ...and in any case even if he is "dull" so what?
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on July 07, 2012, 18:26:41 PM
Watched most of the ladies final today, although at times it was like a man verses a woman with the power that Serena posesses. She won one of the games in 49 seconds, firing down 4 straight aces. Radwanska made a go of it though, taking a set. Have to say I was a bit disappointed with the Polish girls after match interview, where she never personally congratulated Serena. Discourteous if you ask me.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Red Star on July 07, 2012, 19:08:58 PM
You see what you see you dont know who he is in private hes not public property
Thats a given. None of us are ever privvy to the personal life of any sports person/musician/celebrity etc but that doesn't stop someone forming an opinion based on what they see and hear.
. ...and in any case even if he is so what?
So nothing, I just happen to prefer watching tennis players with a bit more personality than a piece of wood as I find them more entertaining.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Andrew_Haldane on July 07, 2012, 19:33:21 PM
Oh well such is life.... we don't always get what we'd  prefer or deserve and it takes all sorts. I really hope he wins tomorrow but I agree he will need  a lot of luck and  probably have to play the best tennis of his life to beat Federer if he displays the same kind of form and determination he showed against Djokovic in the semi.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on July 07, 2012, 19:45:14 PM
I really hope he wins tomorrow

And why's that then mate?
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: döm on July 07, 2012, 19:58:11 PM
And why's that then mate?

Sorry for jumping in but I want him to win as he's been carrying the burden of a nation's expectation all by himself for far too long.  At least Henman had the Canuck-Brit Rudeski to share it with.  It'll give the UK something to cheer during this miserable Summer.  He's been unfortunate to be around with such 3 superbly gifted and consistent players above him and deserves his chance as he's a superb tennis player in his own right.

Federer's won it enough times anyway.

Having said all that I'd much rather be cheering a Frenchman on in the final but fair play to Murray for getting there.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Slim on July 07, 2012, 21:20:07 PM
And why's that then mate?

If he does, we'll have a British Wimbledon champion again, Zoony! It is the most quintessentially British of tournaments. Lovely if we can have our own men's champ. Haven't had one in the men's game in my lifetime!

(http://groover.kicks-ass.net/images/andy_union_flag.jpg)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Andrew_Haldane on July 07, 2012, 21:23:52 PM
And why's that then mate?

Patrick and I think very much alike on this. I don't want him to win it by default should Federer succumb to his back problem I hope Murray manages to play without inhibition and the strain of carrying the hopes and expectations of those who genuinely want him to succeed...but even more to silence those who would like to see him fail. If he manages to take Federer to five sets and loses a close fought match then maybe some people will forgive him being himself but if he does win it will probably merely further cement some folk's dislike of him. Oh btw my mother was born with a heart of Lothian and I'm half a  Jock....my better half...the rest is Italian...unfortunately I was born  in England....much to my regret but shit happens! ;)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on July 07, 2012, 21:32:32 PM
Well done to Marray nd Neilson on winning the men's doubles...a good omen
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on July 07, 2012, 23:15:02 PM
Federer is one of the all time greats, probably THE best ever on grass, and the way he has performed at this Wimbledon, in particular against Djokovic, proves that he's still got it. If he plays to at least 90% of his best tomorrow, he wins.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Andrew_Haldane on July 07, 2012, 23:31:08 PM
Ah but its a jubilee year all bets are off ;)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: mickpaz2112 on July 08, 2012, 09:34:11 AM
Not a tennis fan but would like to wish Andy Murray all the best today.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on July 08, 2012, 10:45:07 AM
C'MON ROG!
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Bez on July 08, 2012, 12:32:39 PM
C'MON ROG!

Now its upon us I can't help wanting Murray to win....I am ultimately British after all....

He's still a cnut though
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on July 08, 2012, 12:42:37 PM
Now its upon us I can't help wanting Murray to win....I am ultimately British after all....

He's still a cnut though
I can't abide Tennis and I can't abide Murray.

If the loathesome twat wins it'll mean nothing else on the news and in the papers for a fortnight. The twat is probably already shoehorned in for Sport's No Personality of the Year already, if he wins today he'll bloody get it in perpetuity.

Tennis, sport for people who don't like sport - i.e. Women.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Ron on July 08, 2012, 13:53:33 PM
Will have to support Federer in this one.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Slim on July 08, 2012, 13:57:07 PM
I was watching some footage of Fred Perry at Wimbledon winning Wimbledon in his long trousers just now. Different game then. The first serves look like limp second serves, and they seem to be strolling around the court.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Dixkot on July 08, 2012, 14:00:56 PM


Good luck Andy Murray.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Andrew_Haldane on July 08, 2012, 14:18:31 PM
Good start Come on Andy!
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Andrew_Haldane on July 08, 2012, 14:30:11 PM
Federer breaks back 2 -2 1st set
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Andrew_Haldane on July 08, 2012, 14:34:13 PM
Very good game so far Shame I have to go to work Come on Andy!
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Andrew_Haldane on July 08, 2012, 14:47:21 PM
Federer not quite out of fourth gear yet but beginning to find his rhythm now and making Murray really run around the court. Hang in there Andy!
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Richard_2112 on July 08, 2012, 14:55:46 PM
Surprisingly close contest so far. Thrilling stuff
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: döm on July 08, 2012, 14:59:30 PM
Great game for Murray to win - now to see if he can put some pressure on Federer

God his mum is annoying
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: döm on July 08, 2012, 15:09:16 PM
Great stuff Andy !  1/3rd of the way there
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Dixkot on July 08, 2012, 15:14:23 PM
Great stuff Andy !  1/3rd of the way there

His first set in a Slam final.  May relieve the pressure a bit.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Richard_2112 on July 08, 2012, 15:29:14 PM
This is an absolutly belting tennis match!
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: döm on July 08, 2012, 15:33:22 PM
Pleased Federer won that game.  Terrible line call early on.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Red Star on July 08, 2012, 16:06:03 PM
1 set all - is that it for Murray now I wonder?
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Andrew_Haldane on July 08, 2012, 16:21:22 PM
Covers on good time for Murray to get some physio and some time with Lendl. I know it could all go Pete Tong but I hope Murray's critics have seen enough to prove that Murray isnt bottling his first Wimbledon Final against arguably the greatest mens tennis player of all time.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Richard_2112 on July 08, 2012, 16:23:57 PM
He's certainly doing anything but bottling it. Very impressed to see this match being a close call
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Red Star on July 08, 2012, 17:02:29 PM
He is not bottling it so far, in fact he's playing very well. Long way to go though and I just feel the longer the match goes on the more on top Federer will become.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: NeilP on July 08, 2012, 17:20:10 PM
I was watching some footage of Fred Perry at Wimbledon winning Wimbledon in his long trousers just now. Different game then. The first serves look like limp second serves, and they seem to be strolling around the court.

Aye, I heard the final lasted less than 40 minutes nd the the German opponent was injured but hobbled about
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: döm on July 08, 2012, 17:20:41 PM
That 20 minute game could well be the match winner.  Federer doesn't give you an inch!
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: NeilP on July 08, 2012, 17:22:02 PM
t does now look like Federer has taken control of this match
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Dixkot on July 08, 2012, 17:31:21 PM


To me the difference is that Federer plays the big points so much better than Murray.  The mark of a champion, I suppose.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on July 08, 2012, 17:32:47 PM
I confess that I've been watching most of it, didn't feel like going out after hearing of my mate Tom's death, and Murray was certainly the better player until the last game of the second set. Federer has just gone 2-1 up in sets now though, and it's going to be difficult for the Scot to come back now I think.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Red Star on July 08, 2012, 17:33:47 PM
Good effort Andy but it's just a matter of time now.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Richard_2112 on July 08, 2012, 17:51:51 PM
Murray's knackered now. He's gonna have to pull something magical out of the bag to win it now.

Looks like the break for the rain was his undoing
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: NeilP on July 08, 2012, 17:53:10 PM
Has his mother tapped off with Paul Young?
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Red Star on July 08, 2012, 18:01:36 PM
Looking well beaten now.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Dixkot on July 08, 2012, 18:05:02 PM
Looking well beaten now.

Indeed, miracle needed now.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Richard_2112 on July 08, 2012, 18:05:21 PM
Looks like this could be it
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: döm on July 08, 2012, 18:05:33 PM
Murray scrapping to stay in this - Federer looking like he has a couple of more gears, if needed.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: NeilP on July 08, 2012, 18:10:19 PM
Federer to serve for the match, I doubt he'll mess up sadly
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Chris Quartly on July 08, 2012, 18:11:31 PM
Mrs Creosote has noticed the karaoke bar...
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: NeilP on July 08, 2012, 18:14:25 PM
match point......
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: NeilP on July 08, 2012, 18:15:01 PM
never mind, brave brave effort
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Richard_2112 on July 08, 2012, 18:21:10 PM
Well fought by Murray but Federer showed everyone why he's the greatest player of all time.

The break in the play for the rain stumped Murray as it disrupted the role he was on, and the game in the 3rd set that went to 10th Deuce wore him out physically and mentally.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Dixkot on July 08, 2012, 18:21:37 PM


Federer just too good and Murray didn't take advantage when he was given the opportunity.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: NeilP on July 08, 2012, 18:25:44 PM

The break in the play for the rain stumped Murray as it disrupted the role he was on,.

nah, the momentum went in the end of the previous set I thought, Murray needad to win that second set.... once it was level, it was nigh impossible to raise his game. Federer is a truly marvellous player and a gentleman.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Dixkot on July 08, 2012, 18:26:04 PM


10/10 for his post match interview.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: NeilP on July 08, 2012, 18:26:22 PM

Federer just too good and Murray didn't take advantage when he was given the opportunity.

hard to disagree with that Richard
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: JonL on July 08, 2012, 18:30:54 PM
I suppose the "Murray's a miserable git" camp will call him a cry baby too now.
It was never going to happen, but a good effort.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: captainkurtz on July 08, 2012, 18:40:58 PM
2 gentleman, I thought.

A lot of other high profile sportsmen could learn alot from their conduct and behaviour, on and off court.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: NeilP on July 08, 2012, 18:41:01 PM
I'll keep saying this until his day comes along, lose Mum at the games - surely a mistake?
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: JonL on July 08, 2012, 18:44:07 PM
I'll keep saying this until his day comes along, lose Mum at the games - surely a mistake?

Plenty other parents have seen their kids lift trophies.
What must it have been like for Venus and Serena in their younger days?
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: captainkurtz on July 08, 2012, 18:46:02 PM
His mums a scary fecker, mind.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Slim on July 08, 2012, 18:53:28 PM
Heartbreaking but at least he's got a memorable Wimbledon final to look back on. Career-defining as well probably, because I just don't think he's likely to come this close again. He's only got a few more goes at it.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on July 08, 2012, 19:01:59 PM
All credit to Murray for his part in a great match. He's had a very good tournament, but you always feel that one of the big 3 are going to be standing in his way. I'll never be a fan of his, but he certainly went up in my estimation of him with his after match interview.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: NeilP on July 08, 2012, 19:12:40 PM
Plenty other parents have seen their kids lift trophies.
What must it have been like for Venus and Serena in their younger days?

I can't think of many who are at every match tbh, nuff said about the scary Williams' and their entire family at times
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Red Star on July 08, 2012, 19:31:48 PM
I suppose the "Murray's a miserable git" camp will call him a cry baby too now.

A heartfelt and entirely understandable emotional speech from a very good tennis player who gave a very good account of himself against probably the greatest tennis player the world has ever seen.

I have to agree with Slim though, and despite Murray saying ''I'm getting closer''  I can't see him getting this close ever again.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: JonL on July 08, 2012, 19:54:18 PM
I have to agree with Slim though, and despite Murray saying ''I'm getting closer''  I can't see him getting this close ever again.

I think that's an increasingly popular opinion.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Ron on July 08, 2012, 20:14:33 PM
I was well impressed by Murray. He certainly has lifted his game over the years. But Federer truly showed why he is the best player for quite a while now.
He totally wrecked Murray mentally and physically over the last few sets.

On another note, can the BBC please ditch Boris Becker immediately as a commentator?
He's not got any better over the years!
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Thailand Express on July 08, 2012, 20:46:58 PM
Has his mother tapped off with Paul Young?

 ;D Thought that too

Unlucky Andy, if he'd been 10 years older he'd probably have been a multiple slam winner.  £570k is a nice compensation though.
Still the US Open to come which he says is his favourite of the majors.

What can you say about Federer though?  Good for him to now share the record Wimbledon wins, he absolutely deserves it.

Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Andrew_Haldane on July 08, 2012, 20:51:18 PM
Unlucky Murray to come up Federer in imperiois form. Nadal has ongoing injury problems an d Rog is now 30 Murrays time may yet come!
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on July 08, 2012, 20:52:10 PM
Unlucky Murray to come up Federer in imperiois form. Nadal has ongoing injury problems an d Rog is now 30 Murrays time may yet come!

And don't forget Djokovic mate.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Andrew_Haldane on July 08, 2012, 20:55:10 PM
And don't forget Djokovic mate.

I didn't forget Djokovic and he is human too Murray has time yet to win at least one major.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on July 08, 2012, 21:07:42 PM
I didn't forget Djokovic and he is human too Murray has time yet to win at least one major.

I've always said the US open is his best chance.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Chris Quartly on July 08, 2012, 21:17:15 PM
By the time Murray is ready to win a slam it will probably coincide with the next youngster who comes along to dominate the game for the next 5 or 6 years...
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Gman on July 08, 2012, 21:29:12 PM
Despite the many variables in sport, all can be controlled except for one thing,the inability to legislate for the form of your opponent.That cannot be controlled

Gman
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Andrew_Haldane on July 08, 2012, 21:35:43 PM
By the time Murray is ready to win a slam it will probably coincide with the next youngster who comes along to dominate the game for the next 5 or 6 years...

Is that  based on observable phenomena or just fatalism/a feeling/sods law? ;)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: döm on July 08, 2012, 21:38:03 PM
That was his 4th grand slam final.   There's no reason to believe he can't make the same number again over the next 3 or 4 years.  He could win one yet.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Chris Quartly on July 08, 2012, 22:34:31 PM
Is that  based on observable phenomena or just fatalism/a feeling/sods law? ;)

It's a hunch, though I have a feeling these things are relatively cyclical, and would probably be backed up bit a bit of research. Sampras' career seem to come to an end up just as Federer was getting going, for example.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Andrew_Haldane on July 08, 2012, 22:47:22 PM
That's was his 3rd grand slam final.   There's no reason to believe he can't make the same number again over the next 3 or 4 years.  He could win one yet.

Good point, well played!
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: döm on July 08, 2012, 22:50:33 PM
Good point, well played!

Thanks - apart from the completely unnecessary apostrophe s - where did that come from ?
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Slim on July 08, 2012, 23:02:11 PM
Is that  based on observable phenomena or just fatalism/a feeling/sods law? ;)

I said the same thing a couple of years ago when someone suggested that Murray would get his chance if Nadal had another injury problem. And along came Djokovic - I was right. It does happen. It is an observable phenomenon.

By the time Federer is past it, there'll be another up and coming player knocking on the door of the top three. Most regular Grand Slam winners start to win their first slam from age 20 or so. There could well be an 18 or 19 yr old out there with the 2014 Wimbledon title in his destiny. Perhaps he'll beat Andy in the final.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Andrew_Haldane on July 08, 2012, 23:07:11 PM
Maybe maybe not ...all speculative but Murray is here now, ranked 4th and still in with a decent chance of winning a major for at least two more years. He is constantly improving  his game too.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: NeilP on July 08, 2012, 23:19:40 PM
Murray, with Lendl's assistance might also be able to raise his game and beat the top 3 - he's still young and good enough imho.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Chris Quartly on July 08, 2012, 23:28:54 PM
I wonder how many players went on to win a grand slam if they hadn't won any by the age of (let's just use Murray's as a standard) 25?
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: NeilP on July 08, 2012, 23:36:00 PM
Quite a few
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Thailand Express on July 08, 2012, 23:50:21 PM
It's a hunch, though I have a feeling these things are relatively cyclical, and would probably be backed up bit a bit of research. Sampras' career seem to come to an end up just as Federer was getting going, for example.

Federer would've owned Sampras if they were playing at the same time.

In terms of best versus the rest the Federer/Nadal/Djokovic reign is the strongest mens' tennis has seen since Borg/Conners/McEnroe....
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Chris Quartly on July 09, 2012, 00:29:51 AM
Federer would've owned Sampras if they were playing at the same time.

But they weren't, that seems to be the point. That there are always a select few (with 1 in particular) who have dominated the last few decades, and they tend to start winning pretty young. As Slim says, maybe in a few years we'll have the next superstar who comes along and picks off all the old fogies and wins everything for the next 10 years.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Thailand Express on July 09, 2012, 00:57:15 AM
The point I was kinda trying to make was that the best from one era doesn't necessarily equal that of another. 
Slim was suggesting that when Federer quits a youngster will appear to take his place.  I don't think you can be certain that anyone of that quality will come along for a long time.
I think Murray's got at least another 5 years in him of challenging at the top, fitness permitting....
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Andrew_Haldane on July 09, 2012, 01:14:33 AM
Thanks - apart from the completely unnecessary apostrophe s - where did that come from ?

Well I was beginning to worry about you when you posted that Giggs Boson joke earlier
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Straight Shooter on July 09, 2012, 01:51:07 AM
Thanks - apart from the completely unnecessary apostrophe s - where did that come from ?
Never mind that Dom! What about the fact it was actually his 4th grand slam final!!  :P  ;)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: döm on July 09, 2012, 07:57:40 AM
I wonder how many players went on to win a grand slam if they hadn't won any by the age of (let's just use Murray's as a standard) 25?

Ivanisevic springs to mind - i think he was pretty close to 30 when he won Wimbledon his only grand slam.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: döm on July 09, 2012, 07:59:02 AM
Well I was beginning to worry about you when you posted that Giggs Boson joke earlier

only beginning to worry ?  That's quite comforting, actually.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: döm on July 09, 2012, 08:00:27 AM
Never mind that Dom! What about the fact it was actually his 4th grand slam final!!  :P  ;)

i think it's too late to delete it now  ;).  Maybe a little correction is in order !
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Bez on July 09, 2012, 08:01:19 AM
Saw bits of the final.....Federer always in control.

Unlike some I don't see him as a hero because he blubbed at the end...I was embarrassed for him. Yes, he wants to win and it was emotional, but FFS man, sort yourself out.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: NeilP on July 09, 2012, 08:34:40 AM
Quote
Ivanisevic springs to mind - i think he was pretty close to 30 when he won Wimbledon his only grand slam.
I think you can add Vilas, Nastase, Lendl & Stan Smith to the list off the top of my head
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Matt2112 on July 09, 2012, 08:50:54 AM
Murray put up a rousing fight, but there's simply not enough in his locker. I was touched by his emotional outpouring after the match, I must say.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Bez on July 09, 2012, 08:59:24 AM
..... I was touched by his emotional outpouring after the match, I must say.

I'm just not getting this at all....can you explain for me ?
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on July 09, 2012, 08:59:40 AM
superb effort.. but i think it all turned on the 6-5 game in the second set where he had a chance to take it to tie break...

Not embarassed at all by his blubbing.. made him appear a bit more human after all...

onwards and upwards...
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: döm on July 09, 2012, 09:03:48 AM
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/jul/08/andy-murray-not-miserable-just-normal?CMP=twt_gu

Well said, Charlie
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Jonners on July 09, 2012, 09:15:13 AM
Not buying the crying thing personally, Im sure I will be shot down in flames but to me it always seems teh last preserve of teh sportsman who is either an utter wanker, very unpopular, or polarises opinion, such as:-

Gascoigne
Ronaldo
Murray
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Slim on July 09, 2012, 09:18:52 AM
I wonder how many players went on to win a grand slam if they hadn't won any by the age of (let's just use Murray's as a standard) 25?

The last one I can think of is Goran Ivanisevic in 2001. He was a wildcard at Wimbledon that year, and that was the only grand slam he ever won. Bit of a fluke really.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Jonners on July 09, 2012, 09:33:46 AM
Cant remember how old Richard Krajicek was when he won in the mid 90's, but certainly Goran has to be the most recent example surely
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on July 09, 2012, 09:35:04 AM
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Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: NeilP on July 09, 2012, 09:40:29 AM
Cant remember how old Richard Krajicek was when he won in the mid 90's, but certainly Goran has to be the most recent example surely

Aye, you can add Richard Krajicek to those listed in #1082  ;) - he was almost 25
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Matt2112 on July 09, 2012, 10:05:03 AM
I'm just not getting this at all....can you explain for me ?

Just that he appeared to me to be so humble, grateful and overwhelmed by the support he'd received.  It didn't appear to me he was feeling sorry for himself or anything like that...it was just so far removed from the usual dour, monotone, stolid robot he almost always comes across as, that I couldn't help but soften my opinion of him. :)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: NeilP on July 09, 2012, 10:06:08 AM
it started when he saw Cameron in the Royal Box my Dad reckons...
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Thailand Express on July 09, 2012, 12:31:41 PM
I think he's cried after every major defeat tbh.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Slim on July 09, 2012, 12:33:19 PM
I was quite moved to see David in the crowd.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: NeilP on July 09, 2012, 13:46:12 PM
Haha
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Chris Quartly on July 09, 2012, 14:23:48 PM
The last one I can think of is Goran Ivanisevic in 2001. He was a wildcard at Wimbledon that year, and that was the only grand slam he ever won. Bit of a fluke really.

Yes he immediately sprang to mind, that was certainly one of the great sporting moments in tennis I think (didn't he dedicate the win to a friend who died). Anyone in the 11 years since?
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: NeilP on July 09, 2012, 17:27:59 PM
Thats a different question and one to which you already know th answer I imagine ;)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Chris Quartly on July 09, 2012, 17:32:00 PM
I'm not a big enough follower of tennis, so I confess to general ignorance :) from a relative by-stander, it seems like a select few really dominate every decade before there's a sort-of changing of the guard, so to speak. Rather than a more steady and constant flow of champions. I'm probably wrong, but that's what it has seemed like in my lifetime without paying close attention :)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: NeilP on July 09, 2012, 17:34:50 PM
It seems to be a strong young man's game these days it seems and that goes for some of those 'gals' too
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on July 09, 2012, 21:11:42 PM
I was quite moved to see David in the crowd.

Well it pissed me off big time. I've never seen him there before, or that miserable bitch he's married to. I bet there were loads of genuine tennis fans who have queued up, and even slept out for tickets for games like that, yet those two probably get in for nowt, along with the likes of Cameron, Boris Johnson and the Middleton girls. Tennis is riddled with pomp and snobbery in this country.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: döm on July 09, 2012, 21:16:07 PM
I was quite moved to see David in the crowd.

Beckham or Cameron ?
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on July 09, 2012, 21:18:02 PM
Beckham or Cameron ?

Could be either, Slim is a big fan of both. I assumed it was Beckham, but on reflection I was probably wrong.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: döm on July 09, 2012, 21:36:42 PM
Well it pissed me off big time. I've never seen him there before, or that miserable bitch he's married to. I bet there were loads of genuine tennis fans who have queued up, and even slept out for tickets for games like that, yet those two probably get in for nowt, along with the likes of Cameron, Boris Johnson and the Middleton girls. Tennis is riddled with pomp and snobbery in this country.

That's why the country is so bad at it.  To play on a decent court you have to be a member of an expensive tennis club.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Slim on July 09, 2012, 23:04:47 PM
Beckham or Cameron ?

Cameron. A really lovely thing to see our Prime Minister at a quintessentially British and prestigious event. Just made it all the more special for me.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on July 10, 2012, 04:59:27 AM
More appropriate to see Alex Salmand there seeing as it was a Scotsman playing.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Andy42g on July 10, 2012, 08:35:34 AM
I'm not a big enough follower of tennis, so I confess to general ignorance :) from a relative by-stander, it seems like a select few really dominate every decade before there's a sort-of changing of the guard, so to speak. Rather than a more steady and constant flow of champions.
Yeah - but that;s been the same for a good while if you think back to the likes of Borg, McEnroe and Connors. Each"era" seems to throw up two or three utter genius, dominant players. It also gets somewhat warped as we only (well, we used to before sports channels were invented) get to watch Wimbledon and the grass specialists when there's many circuit tournaments globally on a variety of surfaces. Ivan Lendl for instance won several grand slams but never Wimbledon. Luckily for us a Brit is part of the dominant group at the moment.  Just a shame that the next best Brittish male is barely scraping the world top 150 - what we can do about this I suppose we are at the moment, and of course Andy Murray doing so well helps a great deal, but it'll take time for anyone to filter through.
The women's game is certainly more unpredictable at the moment.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Andy42g on July 10, 2012, 08:44:09 AM
I was quite moved to see David in the crowd.
Moved to leave the room - yeah me too.  :)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Slim on July 10, 2012, 12:23:35 PM
More appropriate to see Alex Salmand there seeing as it was a Scotsman playing.

I wouldn't say so. Cameron is the Prime Minister of the United Kingdom. Salmond is essentially a local government officer.

You might be interested to know that the last time a Briton won the men's title at Wimbledon, the umpire declared "Game, set and match - Great Britain". Not "England".
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: pdw1 on July 10, 2012, 12:28:41 PM
Cameron. A really lovely thing to see our Prime Minister at a quintessentially British and prestigious event. Just made it all the more special for me.
Yes lovely to see him there. But what was Boris doing there?

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Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on July 10, 2012, 12:30:46 PM
one comment that made me laugh.. was when they showed Cliff Richard in the crowd and one commenatatot retorted.. Cliff richard.. seems to be wearing his duvet..
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on July 11, 2012, 21:16:05 PM


You might be interested to know that the last time a Briton won the men's title at Wimbledon, the umpire declared "Game, set and match - Great Britain". Not "England".

No Slim, not in the slightest bit interested mate  ;).
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Richard_2112 on July 12, 2012, 23:45:19 PM
one comment that made me laugh.. was when they showed Cliff Richard in the crowd and one commenatatot retorted.. Cliff richard.. seems to be wearing his duvet..
That one really tickled me
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on July 13, 2012, 09:56:02 AM
anyone catch him on Mock the week last night (as part of the audience)..... Kim sears has got a lovely smile...
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Jonners on July 13, 2012, 10:10:13 AM
cant we put this thread to be now please til next june?
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: döm on July 13, 2012, 10:13:52 AM
I thought moaning about Murray was a year long activity ?
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Red Star on July 13, 2012, 10:56:11 AM
cant we put this thread to be now please til next june?

No, he's got the US Open to lose in next. :D
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Dixkot on August 03, 2012, 21:04:42 PM
No, he's got the US Open to lose in next. :D

He's got an Olympic medal to lift first.   ;D
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on August 03, 2012, 21:49:33 PM
Arse >:(

Can't the loathesome shit be thrown out for having an offensive face?
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Red Star on August 03, 2012, 21:50:42 PM
He's got an Olympic medal to lift first.   ;D

Yes, a good win over Djokovic - can he now beat Federer who must feel a bit tired after beating Del Potro 19-17 in the final set! :o
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Richard_2112 on August 03, 2012, 22:58:11 PM
Yes, a good win over Djokovic - can he now beat Federer who must feel a bit tired after beating Del Potro 19-17 in the final set! :o

Grudge match for the events from a few weeks ago! Should be well worth watching!
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Slim on August 03, 2012, 23:32:13 PM
Win win for me again. Pleased whoever wins. I think it would be especially nice for Federer to add Olympic Champion to his CV after winning a slam again, in the dying years of his career.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on August 04, 2012, 10:22:01 AM
Credit to Murray for getting to the final, not bothered who wins it though. A gold medal at the olympic tennis tournament would be a good thing for any player to have on their CV, but surely not as much as winning one of the 4 grand slam events?
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Andy42g on August 04, 2012, 10:35:02 AM
Give it a rest Rob FFS.

Bloody fantastic win for Andy over Djokovic. 4 weeks to the day after the Wimbledon final - would be great to see Murray beat Rog and pick up an Olympic Gold medal.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on August 04, 2012, 10:46:51 AM
Give it a rest Rob FFS.



What about?! Just giving a valid opinion, which is what the idea of the site is. If you don't like it, don't read it. It works for me, that's why I take no notice of most of the shit that you spout on about  ;).
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Andy42g on August 04, 2012, 10:50:15 AM
What about?! Just giving a valid opinion, which is what the idea of the site is. If you don't like it, don't read it. It works for me, that's why I take no notice of most of the shit that you spout on about  ;).
True - I should just not take any notice.  Just the constant drone of mindless jingoism and Murray-bashing gets to me now and again.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Dixkot on August 04, 2012, 14:08:50 PM


A.M + Laura Robson, through to the Mixed Doubles semi-final.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Red Star on August 04, 2012, 15:17:28 PM
I think Rob's point is a valid one though, I don't think an olympic gold medal for tennis carries the same kudos as a Grand Slam and if you posed the question to Murray as to which he would rather win, then I think we all know what his answer woud be.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Dixkot on August 04, 2012, 15:34:51 PM
I think Rob's point is a valid one though, I don't think an olympic gold medal for tennis carries the same kudos as a Grand Slam and if you posed the question to Murray as to which he would rather win, then I think we all know what his answer woud be.

That's as may be, but as his comment was neither in response to a question or expected in the context of this thread, it's only purpose was to belittle Murray.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Red Star on August 04, 2012, 15:52:58 PM
That's as may be, but as his comment was neither in response to a question or expected in the context of this thread, it's only purpose was to belittle Murray.

But the thread is about Andy Murray and his achievements/failures etc and members opinions of him and his achievements and failures. To be fair to Rob he did start his post by giving credit to Murray over his win against Djokovic.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Dixkot on August 04, 2012, 17:33:24 PM


Make that 2 medals. ;D
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on August 04, 2012, 18:49:40 PM
That's as may be, but as his comment was neither in response to a question or expected in the context of this thread, it's only purpose was to belittle Murray.

Sorry Dix, but you're wrong mate. When i made the point about winning a grand slam was more important than winning the olympic tennis tournament, I referred to this as being the preference for ANY player, and not just Andy Murray. How you can say that this was "to belittle" Murray, I just don't understand. Yes, I don't like Murray, but as Red Star pointed out, I did start my post by giving him credit.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Andy42g on August 05, 2012, 08:05:17 AM

A.M + Laura Robson, through to the Mixed Doubles semi-final.
Make that the final - 2 matches in a day. Andy bringing in 2 at least silver medals for team GB - great work. 2 matches again today, including a 5 setter against Federer.
Hard core, and Murray looks like he's enjoying all this Olympics thing thoroughly: means a lot too him too by the looks of things. The crowds seem to be making these games rather special for all the competitors.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Andy42g on August 05, 2012, 08:09:12 AM
I think Rob's point is a valid one though, I don't think an olympic gold medal for tennis carries the same kudos as a Grand Slam and if you posed the question to Murray as to which he would rather win, then I think we all know what his answer woud be.
Do we? How so? Opinion again. Judging be his tears at the end of the last two or three matches the crowds and the unique occasion have turned this tournament into somethng more than just a title. Seems to be the same across the boards for all the GB competitors. Plus - he'll be on a stamp and how cool is that!
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: NeilP on August 05, 2012, 10:03:09 AM
here's hoping but I suspect his mum will be there again.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: geo on August 05, 2012, 11:18:56 AM
tim henman said this morning that an olympic gold is the pinnacle of any sportspersons career.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Slim on August 05, 2012, 11:38:52 AM
I really don't think it is in some sports, and I have to say tennis is certainly one of those. I'll have to disagree with Tim on that one. Of course an Olympic gold medal must be a huge deal for any participant, but as great an achievement as it is, the four slams are surely the game's major prizes.

You'll notice that there hasn't been a lot of speculation over whether Andy Murray would ever win an Olympic gold, over the course of his career. British players hadn't even competed in Olympic football since 1960 until this tournament.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: döm on August 05, 2012, 14:59:16 PM
Regardless of the importance of the competition (and I agree the Olympics is a notch below the grand slams) Murray is playing some wonderful tennis.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Richard_2112 on August 05, 2012, 15:33:29 PM
This is amazing stuff! Federer hasn't won a game in the second set!
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Slim on August 05, 2012, 15:42:12 PM
He's now got three goes at winning a set, for Olympic Gold! Excellent.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Richard_2112 on August 05, 2012, 16:09:52 PM
Might be useful for him to throw this game so he can serve for the match...
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Richard_2112 on August 05, 2012, 16:13:37 PM
Match Point!
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Slim on August 05, 2012, 16:16:02 PM
And Team GB strikes gold again!
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Slim on August 05, 2012, 16:17:13 PM
(http://groover.kicks-ass.net/images/andy_brit.jpg)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: BaldiePete on August 05, 2012, 16:17:53 PM
(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Sport/Pix/pictures/2012/7/26/1343300338568/London-2012-Olympic-gold--008.jpg)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Richard_2112 on August 05, 2012, 16:22:14 PM
Very impressive to totally destroy Federer today. Even in the Olympics that is nothing to be sniffed at.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Red Star on August 05, 2012, 16:28:51 PM
Fair play to Murray, he was absolutely awesome today and thoroughly deserves his Olympic gold medal :)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: pdw1 on August 05, 2012, 16:40:15 PM
Well done Murray.
This could be the making of him.....
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Blastzone on August 05, 2012, 16:40:27 PM
Proud of you Mr Murray

Very well done 8)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on August 05, 2012, 17:02:42 PM
Brilliant...well done Andy
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: NeilP on August 05, 2012, 17:09:27 PM
Great stuff - yet another golden.post box in.Scotland
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on August 05, 2012, 18:06:52 PM
Despite my views on Murray, and team GB, I'm man enough to say that he played brilliantly today, and totally deserved to win his gold medal. Well done to him.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Bez on August 06, 2012, 08:09:52 AM
Fair play to Murray, he was absolutely awesome today and thoroughly deserves his Olympic gold medal :)
Indeed, very well done.... :)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Andy42g on August 06, 2012, 08:40:04 AM
Great final by Andy. Interesting to hear Rog say that he was out of emotional gas by the final, but Andy managed to hang in there emotionally right through the tournament. Shows what being part of Team GB on such an occasion can do for your mentality.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Andy42g on September 04, 2012, 14:00:01 PM
Quarter finals again. Good lad.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: NeilP on September 04, 2012, 14:14:14 PM
Now he's been mentioned in a major again, the wheels will probably fall off.... I was just hoping we'd not mention it. ;)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Jonners on September 04, 2012, 14:20:42 PM
There will be some right old humble pie getting eaten if he starts popping in the odd major, especially around these parts

Still not convinced he has the minerals, but you never know
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Bez on September 04, 2012, 14:32:20 PM
There will be some right old humble pie getting eaten if he starts popping in the odd major, especially around these parts

Still not convinced he has the minerals, but you never know

I hope he does win one at some point - won't stop him from being a twat though.... ::)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Slim on September 04, 2012, 16:07:36 PM
He did go through a twatty phase, but he was young. I can think of a few TNMSers who don't have that excuse ;)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Red Star on September 04, 2012, 16:08:12 PM
There will be some right old humble pie getting eaten if he starts popping in the odd major, especially around these parts

Not me, I've the ''ah well, Nadal wasn't playing due to injury'' card to play if need be ;)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Blastzone on September 04, 2012, 16:57:50 PM
He played some brilliant stuff yesterday
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Andy42g on September 04, 2012, 21:07:36 PM
He played some brilliant stuff yesterday
He was truly exceptional yesterday. Difficult big serving opponent and Murray really played clever. Great job.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Bez on September 04, 2012, 22:14:26 PM
He did go through a twatty phase, but he was young. I can think of a few TNMSers who don't have that excuse ;)

Each to his own.....most TNMSers do have the excuse to have kept their twatish behaviour within the confines of an internet message board with around a thousand members... ;D
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Andy42g on September 04, 2012, 23:18:52 PM
I hope he does win one at some point - won't stop him from being a twat though.... ::)
He's already stopped himself from being a twat.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Bez on September 06, 2012, 08:04:55 AM
He's already stopped himself from being a twat.

He may have downgraded himself from being a cnut....a long way to go though before I'd want to share a pint in a pub with him....and yes, I appreciate that he'd have no interest whatsoever in sharing a pint in a pub with me....
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: NeilP on September 06, 2012, 08:24:15 AM
Into the semi's where he'll meet Federer's conquerer Berdych
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Red Star on September 06, 2012, 08:51:37 AM
No Federer, no Nadal - could he?
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: NeilP on September 06, 2012, 09:03:11 AM
we can hope.... but unlikely, Berdych and Djokovic still there I think
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Red Star on September 06, 2012, 09:46:38 AM
Never a better chance though surely?
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Jonners on September 06, 2012, 09:51:13 AM
I imagine Djokovic will have something to say about it

Still, AM should make the final if he starts better than he did today, so you never know.......
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Bez on September 06, 2012, 09:54:43 AM
He should be confident having won the Olympic tournament a few weeks back....
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on September 06, 2012, 10:02:09 AM
c/mon Andy...:)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Andy42g on September 06, 2012, 10:59:41 AM
He should be confident having won the Olympic tournament a few weeks back....
He utterly demolished Djokovic in that Olympic semi. It was some of the best tennis I have ever seen by anybody and for me made the final pretty much a formality.  His head was absolutely in the game.  Whether he can do it again - sustained for a whole tournament remains the question. Whatever,  his getting to the semis and finals consistently in majors and other tennis tournaments (he wins a lot during the season), where there is so much competition, still makes him one of the best sportsmen Britain has at the moment.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on September 06, 2012, 12:50:37 PM
To an Englishman, he's just another foreign tennis player....
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Dods on September 06, 2012, 16:26:19 PM
lol Zooners
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Slim on September 06, 2012, 16:53:56 PM
To an Englishman, he's just another foreign tennis player....

Not to English people in general, who understand that he's from the same country.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on September 07, 2012, 23:20:42 PM
Not to English people in general, who understand that he's from the same country.

He can't be Scottish AND English.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on September 07, 2012, 23:45:56 PM
He can't be Scottish AND English.
But he can be and IS British.

I can't stand him because he's loathsome, not because he's from the chilly semi-autonomous region of North Britain.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on September 08, 2012, 18:18:14 PM
Just went to listen to 606 on 5 live, and it ain't on this week because they've got that twat Murray's SF on!
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Blastzone on September 08, 2012, 19:04:55 PM
Come on Murray....show Levein that attacking and being positive can win games
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on September 08, 2012, 21:00:04 PM
Come on Murray....show Levein that attacking and being positive can win games

I'll give him one thing Gordon, he's got more about him than your national football team.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Dixkot on September 08, 2012, 21:37:56 PM


Nice of the commentators to inform us that a player has never before reached 5 Grand Slam finals and lost them all.........
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: NeilP on September 08, 2012, 22:48:11 PM
He's going to win isn't he!

Good luck Andy !
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Slim on September 09, 2012, 00:19:05 AM
He can't be Scottish AND English.

Irrelevant. Neither of those two places are really countries. He's British
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Slim on September 09, 2012, 00:22:05 AM
Seems to be nudging for a place at the very top at the moment. It could happen..

Still think it will be a bit of a fluke if he wins a Wimbledon title though. But this would surely at least be a step in that direction.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Red Star on September 09, 2012, 08:38:05 AM
What was the little hissy fit spat about during the match when they verbally engaged each other over the net?
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on September 09, 2012, 09:36:58 AM
Irrelevant. Neither of those two places are really countries.

They are in my world mate  ;).
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on September 09, 2012, 13:30:43 PM
top performance yesterday..c'mon Andy..:)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Andy42g on September 10, 2012, 09:25:13 AM
It's not live on the telly :(. Or maybe it's on Sky Sports?
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on September 10, 2012, 09:37:01 AM
its on 9pm tonight.. not sure about Tv channel if any...
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: NeilP on September 10, 2012, 10:05:05 AM
It's not live on the telly :(. Or maybe it's on Sky Sports?

Sky or Eurosport it seems..... or frontrow ::)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Andy42g on September 10, 2012, 10:09:01 AM
Sky or Eurosport it seems..... or frontrow ::)
FiveLive will have to do.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on September 10, 2012, 14:34:56 PM
sky sports1 HD it is for me :)  c'mon Murray...:)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Richard_2112 on September 10, 2012, 22:28:52 PM
Exciting stuff, but when did male tennis players start making those god-awful grunting sounds like the women do?
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: NeilP on September 10, 2012, 22:39:28 PM
I don't know whether I can stand 5 sets like this... c'mon Murray!
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on September 10, 2012, 22:42:08 PM
YES!! c'mon Andy..:)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Blastzone on September 10, 2012, 22:43:16 PM
Nerve shredding....1st set to Murray

Calming wine required.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Thailand Express on September 10, 2012, 22:59:05 PM
Double break up in the second.  COME OOOONNNNNNNNN!!!!
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: NeilP on September 10, 2012, 23:08:35 PM
this sixth game in the secnd set is cruciial imho
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Thailand Express on September 10, 2012, 23:26:56 PM
Dear me the wheels have come off here....
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: NeilP on September 10, 2012, 23:27:53 PM
aye, it's gone a bit shite coloured
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Muppet on September 10, 2012, 23:31:08 PM
6-5 now in second set - he really needed that one
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Muppet on September 10, 2012, 23:37:11 PM
Was heading for bed but I'm staying now
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Richard_2112 on September 10, 2012, 23:37:19 PM
Wow that was a nail-biting set!
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Muppet on September 10, 2012, 23:38:58 PM
Terrific drama there to take the 2nd set - incredible
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Slim on September 10, 2012, 23:39:49 PM
I really didn't think he'd get away with that. Two sets up. Can't hurt your nerves knowing you've got three goes at winning a set to take the title. Not until the fifth set, anyway :)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Neph on September 10, 2012, 23:43:22 PM
I've never been that fond of the dreary Dunblanian but his gold medal and me being full of alcohol has raised my nationalistic tendencies to new heights, so come on Andy, cheer up and do it for Queen and country. If you don't want to do it for Queen and country then at least do it for fat Alex Salmond.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: NeilP on September 10, 2012, 23:43:47 PM
still tense here tbh... hope he manages to do it
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Slim on September 11, 2012, 00:30:15 AM
Not looking good now. Djokovic on his way to levelling the match now.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: NeilP on September 11, 2012, 00:36:19 AM
the pendulum does seem to have swung...
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: NeilP on September 11, 2012, 01:14:55 AM
this is torture... c'mon Andy!
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Richard_2112 on September 11, 2012, 01:15:26 AM
I think the fire has left him. It'll take a miracle for him to beat Djokovic now I'd think, but I'm willing to be proven wrong
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Slim on September 11, 2012, 01:22:02 AM
Two sets each now. Quite honestly even at two sets up I didn't really expect him to win. Bed now. I expect to awake to the news that he came second. Unless he does somehow win you have to say it's turned into a setback - given the two set lead, it's a shadow that will loom over his game for the rest of his career.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: NeilP on September 11, 2012, 01:24:33 AM
Murray breaks in the opening game, c'mon son!
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Richard_2112 on September 11, 2012, 01:28:33 AM
He needs to keep these rallies up in order to win as they are knackering out Djokovic!
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: NeilP on September 11, 2012, 01:34:01 AM
they're knackering me out I know that..
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: NeilP on September 11, 2012, 01:35:29 AM
C'mon!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Richard_2112 on September 11, 2012, 01:51:07 AM
TWO GAMES AWAY! DON'T BOLLOCKS IT UP NOW!!!!
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Richard_2112 on September 11, 2012, 01:56:01 AM
Serving to win the match! Come on Andy!!!!
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: NeilP on September 11, 2012, 01:57:10 AM
Step up to the mark lad
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: NeilP on September 11, 2012, 02:04:13 AM
Brilliant Andy Murray, so proud of you!!!!
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Richard_2112 on September 11, 2012, 02:04:40 AM
GET IN SON!!!!
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: geo on September 11, 2012, 02:25:42 AM
well done son, proud of you.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on September 11, 2012, 04:58:44 AM
Murrays time will come though, he has time on his side, and it will probably be at the US open as opposed to Wimbledon, as i think the surface suits him better.

I was right then  :-\.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Dave64K on September 11, 2012, 06:29:37 AM
Glad Andy has broken his slam duck and the final sounded like a classic.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: döm on September 11, 2012, 07:09:29 AM
BRILLIANT !! Delighted for him.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: BaldiePete on September 11, 2012, 07:16:26 AM
(http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/62811000/jpg/_62811224_62811223.jpg)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: captainkurtz on September 11, 2012, 07:36:22 AM
Hopefully he'll find some time to get his haircut now.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Andy42g on September 11, 2012, 08:15:00 AM
Never in doubt. :o Great work by the lad. Heartstopping stuff, but he had the mental metal to get through it.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Thailand Express on September 11, 2012, 08:15:32 AM
I was right then  :-\.

Well done Zoony  ;)

Thrilled for Andy this morning, and requiring caffeine badly.
I went to bed after the 3rd set, but woke up at one point and checked my phone to find him serving for the match. So had to go back downstairs and witness the first British male major tennis champion in my lifetime (and my 73 year old father's for that matter!)
Congratulations Andy, long overdue :)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on September 11, 2012, 08:25:20 AM
(http://cdn01.cdn.justjared.com/wp-content/uploads/headlines/2012/09/andy-murray-wins-us-open-mens.jpg)

brilliant..well done Andy.. i bailed after the third set.. was hoping he'd do the business...:)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: NeilP on September 11, 2012, 08:28:53 AM
are we due another photo of his lass?
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on September 11, 2012, 08:39:21 AM
(http://www.totalprosports.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/12-Kim-Sears-Andy-Murray-girlfriend-U.S.-Open-WAGs.jpg)

:) 8) ::) :P
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: döm on September 11, 2012, 08:52:24 AM
Never in doubt. :o Great work by the lad. Heartstopping stuff, but he had the mental metal to get through it.

Does he have a metal mickey too ?
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Jonners on September 11, 2012, 08:58:17 AM
Bloody hell, well done AM

And, as promised, here is what I will be dining on this morning

(http://www.whoateallthepies.tv/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/humble_pie.jpg)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Slim on September 11, 2012, 08:59:41 AM
Well done Andy! First British Grand Slam of my lifetime - which these days, is quite a long time.

Result never really in doubt, of course.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on September 11, 2012, 09:27:33 AM
Sports personality of the year right there...
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Jonners on September 11, 2012, 09:44:51 AM
hmmmm, depends who votes this year. If its the public then no, if the sports press then maybe

Some other competition though, such as Bradley Wig, Rory Mac, Ennis, Mo, KP, etc
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on September 11, 2012, 09:51:33 AM


Some other competition though, such as Bradley Wig, Rory Mac, Ennis, Mo, KP, etc

nah..
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Slim on September 11, 2012, 10:03:46 AM
He should be a shoe-in for it, really - a gold at the Olympics and the first British men's tennis major title victory since the Mesolithic era. And given that it's a "personality" award, surely his emotional speech after the Wimbledon final must count for a lot.

There are a few excellent candidates but for me it will be a bit of a travesty if he doesn't win. If I were to pick three the other two would be Mo Farah and Bradley Wiggins.

If 'KP' is Kevin Pietersen I suspect he has slightly less chance of winning it than John Terry. I wouldn't recognise him if I passed him in the street.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: NeilP on September 11, 2012, 10:16:06 AM
Well done Andy! First British Grand Slam of my lifetime - which these days, is quite a long time.

Result never really in doubt, of course.

You've forgotten the fragrant 'Ginny' Wade in '77 already James? ;)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Jonners on September 11, 2012, 10:26:58 AM
KP was me being a tad sarcastic, hero to zero in no time
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Andy42g on September 11, 2012, 10:47:22 AM
You've forgotten the fragrant 'Ginny' Wade in '77 already James? ;)
Not to mention Jamie Murray in the mixed a few years back and the mean's doubles pair at Wimbledon this year.  :)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Digital Matt on September 12, 2012, 13:20:58 PM
This thread holds a lot of negative comments about Murray. The way I see it, you can't fail to respect his ability, determination and mental stength to succeed. It,s only a matter of time before he wins a Grand Slam tournament. He's a real TRYER sets an example that other sports men and women can only be inspired by. Money wise, his earnings last year were £13,000,000 putting him No 7 in world tennis earners, ( 8th biggest British sports earner behind the likes of Beckham, Rooney , Owen , Harrington , McDowell ). I agree that he is 'dead pan' and when interviewed he is hardly engaging. As with all sportsmen, it's the results that count and Murray is up there with the best.
Give him a break and get into his PSYCHE!       
Heres my quote from 01/11.
Well done Andy.

Shame on the none believers.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Andrew_Haldane on September 28, 2012, 13:21:02 PM
Awesome...absolutely delighted for him!
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on November 05, 2012, 15:37:08 PM
slow start at the end of season/round robin  tournament at the 02...... c.mon Andy...
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on November 05, 2012, 16:08:42 PM
ah looking better now.. 1-1 and 3-1 up in the third...
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on November 05, 2012, 16:33:55 PM
Yes !
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on November 07, 2012, 16:13:03 PM
one set all and 4-4 all with djokovic
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Dixkot on November 07, 2012, 16:24:44 PM


Been a great match to watch.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on November 07, 2012, 16:30:20 PM
oh oh.. not looking good now...
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Dixkot on November 07, 2012, 16:32:39 PM


Peter Gabriel in the posh seats.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on November 07, 2012, 16:33:27 PM
ah bloody hell two break points gone...
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Bez on November 08, 2012, 00:17:48 AM
Deserved to lose for the feckin horrible kit he had on if for no other reason..... ::)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Andy42g on November 08, 2012, 10:15:45 AM
Another great match against Djokovic. Amazing rivalry - and best of mates too. Hopefully Murray will get another pop at him in the knock out stage.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on January 16, 2013, 12:51:10 PM
good luck for today/tonights game.. and well done to Heather Watson.. saving match points and into the third round...
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on January 17, 2013, 09:28:01 AM
and eases thru to the next round....:)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on January 17, 2013, 13:57:53 PM
and Laura Robson thru after a three hour game... blimey..the brits are doing well...
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on January 21, 2013, 10:16:42 AM
and the smiling scot eases into the QFs...good lad..
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on January 21, 2013, 13:09:15 PM
and the smiling scot eases into the QFs...good lad..

He must have wind.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on January 23, 2013, 09:04:26 AM
and easy into the Semis....looking good so far...
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on January 23, 2013, 21:48:58 PM
I bet he parks like a c***. Because he is one.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on January 24, 2013, 16:42:40 PM
4 foreigners in the semi's again then. No interest for an Englishman.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Andrew_Haldane on January 24, 2013, 17:36:01 PM
4 foreigners in the semi's again then. No interest for this Englishman.
Fixed..... ::)

The absence of any mitigating winking smiley is noted. Does it ever occur to you to that not all Englishmen, or men for that matter, have your narrow world view? What about simply taking an interest and appreciating individual skill, talent and athleticism regardless of country of origin or does that only extend to Southampton footballers?

 
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on January 24, 2013, 19:35:07 PM
Fixed..... ::)

The absence of any mitigating winking smiley is noted. Does it ever occur to you to that not all Englishmen, or men for that matter, have your narrow world view? What about simply taking an interest and appreciating individual skill, talent and athleticism regardless of country of origin or does that only extend to Southampton footballers?

 

Correct about the Southampton footballers bit mate.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on January 25, 2013, 09:32:00 AM
and first set to Murray against Federer..c'mon....
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Muppet on January 25, 2013, 10:30:41 AM
1-1 now, keep the head Andy
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Andrew_Haldane on January 25, 2013, 11:11:08 AM
1-1 now, keep the head Andy

Wow he certainly did in that set absolutely bossed Federer Come on Andy just one more son
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Rob Barchetta on January 25, 2013, 11:17:27 AM
2 - 1 to the Scot   Brit  :D
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Muppet on January 25, 2013, 11:19:15 AM
2 - 1 to the Scot   Brit  :D

2-1 to the dour Brit then
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on January 25, 2013, 11:51:43 AM
4-4 in the fourth set..c'mon Andy...
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on January 25, 2013, 12:01:47 PM
and Murray breaks him  6-5 ..c'mon...
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: NeilP on January 25, 2013, 12:33:54 PM
fifth set - Murray with s slight advantage of a break
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on January 25, 2013, 12:42:18 PM
5-2 Murray .cmon....
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on January 25, 2013, 12:47:05 PM
yessssssssssssssss...
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Rob Barchetta on January 25, 2013, 12:51:20 PM
Job done!!

6-4 6-7 6-3 6-7 6-2

Jock o'vich next  :D
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Jonners on January 25, 2013, 12:53:28 PM
does well in the 5th set, New York now here
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on January 25, 2013, 12:59:20 PM
 (http://s7.postimage.org/oafqa8jej/murray.png)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: NeilP on January 25, 2013, 12:59:33 PM
great stuff.... he's certainly raised his game recently
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: JonL on January 25, 2013, 15:27:00 PM
Bloody Hell, he won!

Great stuff.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on January 25, 2013, 17:20:43 PM
great stuff.... he's certainly raised his game recently

Can't deny that mate, and he's certainly benefitting from the fact that Federer is past his best, and Nadal has his injury problems. Fair play to him, I'm just not a fan of his, and never will be.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: captainkurtz on January 25, 2013, 19:26:00 PM
I've warmed to him.

Unpretentious guy who conducts himself well.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: NeilP on January 25, 2013, 20:20:50 PM
about time we had a pic of his laydee
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Slim on January 25, 2013, 22:27:19 PM
4 foreigners in the semi's again then. No interest for an Englishman.

I'm English, which means I'm British, hence I have a countryman in the final :)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: NeilP on January 27, 2013, 08:43:15 AM
Here we go then, I think he has to get off to a good start and win the first set
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Andrew_Haldane on January 27, 2013, 10:46:57 AM
Murray 1 set and 6-5 up. Djokovic serving to save second set Massive game coming up Come on Andy
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Andrew_Haldane on January 27, 2013, 10:49:49 AM
Tie break
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: NeilP on January 27, 2013, 10:59:12 AM
1 set all.... uphill from here I think?
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Andrew_Haldane on January 27, 2013, 11:07:31 AM
All square now but Murray's feet are causing him problems. Some great tennis from both these superb players but the momentum is with Djokovic now Hang in there Andy!
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Andrew_Haldane on January 27, 2013, 11:17:44 AM
Murray looks like he is in a lot of pain and not wanting to run if he can help it
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on January 27, 2013, 13:45:49 PM
Way to go Djoko!!!!!!

ABM.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on January 27, 2013, 15:57:57 PM
Did Murray lose then?
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Andrew_Haldane on January 27, 2013, 16:54:03 PM
Did Murray lose then?

Thought you weren't interestef Rob
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on January 27, 2013, 18:08:09 PM
brave attempt but unfortunately NJ was just in a different gear during sets 3 and 4...
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on January 27, 2013, 19:16:28 PM
Thought you weren't interestef Rob

I ain't mate, if I was, I would have known who'd won. I just asked out of curiousity.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Andrew_Haldane on January 27, 2013, 22:12:23 PM
I ain't mate, if I was, I would have known who'd won. I just asked out of curiousity.

Eh? Curiosity is the same as taking an Interest.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on January 27, 2013, 23:31:27 PM
I wanted to know who won in case it come up in the quiz on tuesday mate. Wasn't bothered you won it though, didn't mean anything to me.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: NeilP on March 31, 2013, 22:01:21 PM
playing well isn't he?
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on March 31, 2013, 23:09:54 PM
He's a Number 2 alright.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Andrew_Haldane on March 31, 2013, 23:24:33 PM
Scowling all the way to the bank. Well done Andy!  8)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on April 02, 2013, 18:10:29 PM
He's a Number 2 alright.

Too right old bean.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on June 16, 2013, 13:28:30 PM
C'mon Andy.. in the final @ Queens...:)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Andrew_Haldane on June 16, 2013, 13:48:34 PM
Good luck Andy!  :)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on June 16, 2013, 15:55:58 PM
looking promising 4-1 first set after rain delay...
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on June 16, 2013, 16:03:18 PM
he's just been broken...
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on June 16, 2013, 19:34:17 PM
he's just been broken...

His neck hopefully.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on June 16, 2013, 20:16:44 PM
good lad.. he won... great stuff...
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Andrew_Haldane on June 17, 2013, 06:41:16 AM
good lad.. he won... great stuff...

 :D 8)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Andrew_Haldane on June 17, 2013, 06:42:39 AM
he's just been broken...


His neck hopefully.

Zoony..."the gentle giant" ....yeah right   ::)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Red Star on June 17, 2013, 09:45:40 AM
good lad.. he won... great stuff...

Yes well done, although no Djokovic, Federer or Nadal who clearly had better things to do :-\
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on June 17, 2013, 09:53:48 AM
Yes well done, although no Djokovic, Federer or Nadal who clearly had better things to do :-\

yeah sat in front of the TV watching Murray win probably...
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Andrew_Haldane on June 17, 2013, 10:00:45 AM
yeah sat in front of the TV watching Murray win probably...

 ;D
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on June 17, 2013, 13:06:18 PM

Zoony..."the gentle giant" ....yeah right   ::)

It's true mate.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Andrew_Haldane on June 17, 2013, 13:36:13 PM
It's true mate.

you just wish Andy Murray was dead or paralyzed you wouldn't actually do it yourself.  ::)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Red Star on June 17, 2013, 15:17:42 PM
yeah sat in front of the TV watching Murray win probably...

....whilst giving their Wimbledon trophies a polish ;)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on June 17, 2013, 20:28:32 PM
you just wish Andy Murray was dead or paralyzed you wouldn't actually do it yourself.  ::)

It's just talk mate, I wouldn't really wish him any harm, and actually said that I was quite impressed with his performance, and manner at the Olympics.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Straight Shooter on June 18, 2013, 00:14:58 AM
Well done Andy; nice touch too with the prize money...

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/tennis/andy-murray-clinches-third-queens-1957817
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Red Star on June 18, 2013, 07:41:34 AM
Well done Andy; nice touch too with the prize money...

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/tennis/andy-murray-clinches-third-queens-1957817

Yes, nice touch and highly commendable. :)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Bez on June 18, 2013, 13:46:57 PM
Yes, nice touch and highly commendable. :)

Indeed, he's got a good PR team behind him now.... ::)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Red Star on June 24, 2013, 10:54:41 AM
Anyone see the documentary on AM last night on BBC1? Thought it showed him in a pretty good light in all honesty. I'm warming to him albeit slowly.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Straight Shooter on June 24, 2013, 11:31:02 AM
Not seen it yet but apparently zoony recorded it as a keepsake...
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Slim on June 24, 2013, 12:03:00 PM
26 now, time running out for him. Five more goes at Wimbledon at most and I'd think it will be less likely every year from now on. Nadal is fit at the moment and the strong favourite this year.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on June 24, 2013, 15:41:21 PM
Anyone see the documentary on AM last night on BBC1? Thought it showed him in a pretty good light in all honesty. I'm warming to him albeit slowly.

gone off him a bit.. didn't realise he had James Corden down as a friend...
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Red Star on June 24, 2013, 18:08:49 PM
Nadal is fit at the moment and the strong favourite this year.

Cough
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on June 24, 2013, 20:09:16 PM
Not seen it yet but apparently zoony recorded it as a keepsake...

Can't record anything these days mate, ain't got a video no more.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on June 24, 2013, 20:10:46 PM
Nadal is fit at the moment and the strong favourite this year.

Is that so mate?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/tennis/23034085
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Red Star on June 24, 2013, 20:20:59 PM
Is that so mate?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/tennis/23034085

......as I was inferring in my post no. 1325 Rob! ;)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on June 24, 2013, 20:24:50 PM
......as I was inferring in my post no. 1325 Rob! ;)

There was no actual link though mate, so I jumped in  ;).
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on June 24, 2013, 22:58:24 PM
Good news for Murray that Rafa is gone already
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Slim on June 24, 2013, 23:35:41 PM
Cough

Completely true at the time of writing :)

I suppose the Djoker must be favourite now but that's given a huge boost to the Brit's chances.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on June 26, 2013, 09:03:14 AM
Good news for Murray that Rafa is gone already

Not really, after his recent injury problems, I don't think Rafa was a real threat to win on grass tbh.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on June 26, 2013, 19:58:04 PM
and easy thru to the third round.. good lad...
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Red Star on June 26, 2013, 21:35:22 PM
.....and no Federer now either!
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on June 27, 2013, 09:16:25 AM
the stars are starting to align...  :)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on June 27, 2013, 12:31:11 PM
Well it's certainly looking a lot easier for him now, but nothing is guaranteed, other than death, and you never know what's around the corner.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Slim on June 28, 2013, 12:17:12 PM
Well it's certainly looking a lot easier for him now, but nothing is guaranteed, other than death, and you never know what's around the corner.

(http://groover.kicks-ass.net/images/the_djoker.jpg)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on July 01, 2013, 20:30:23 PM
well done Murray and well done Lisicki for dispatching Williams... have to say that Lisicki girl has tremendous legs...
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on July 01, 2013, 20:34:08 PM
Plenty of shocks so far this year, quite conceivable that the Scot might be on the end of one yet....
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Thailand Express on July 01, 2013, 21:41:03 PM
Plenty of shocks so far this year, quite conceivable that the Scot might be on the end of one yet....

It'll be quite a shock if he beats Djokovic, having seen the Serb demolish Tommy Haas there...
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Blastzone on July 01, 2013, 22:03:01 PM
Murray is playing great . Djokovic is playing brilliantly.

Still living in hope though
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Red Star on July 03, 2013, 17:04:50 PM
Murray is playing great .

Not at the moment, he is having an absolute mare!
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: NeilP on July 03, 2013, 19:27:42 PM
Not at the moment, he is having an absolute mare!

how did he get on then?  ::)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on July 03, 2013, 20:27:12 PM
how did he get on then?  ::)

Credit where it's due, but it's looking like Djockovic's to lose.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: NeilP on July 03, 2013, 20:37:26 PM
there's a couple of tough semi's to get through before we can think of a Andy Murray v Novak Djokovic final, Del Potro and the big Pole have looked very good this year... any from four perhaps?
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Pudders on July 03, 2013, 22:11:38 PM
there's a couple of tough semi's to get through before we can think of a Andy Murray v Novak Djokovic final, Del Potro and the big Pole have looked very good this year... any from four perhaps?

Tremendous effort form Murray today - might well be the undoing of him come Friday......

Having said that, what a match to watch, the sheer power, athleticism and bloody mindedness of both players was staggering at times. Whoever gets to the final, will deserve their chance (anybody got a couple of spare tickets ::) )
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: döm on July 03, 2013, 23:08:22 PM
Tremendous effort form Murray today - might well be the undoing of him come Friday......

Having said that, what a match to watch, the sheer power, athleticism and bloody mindedness of both players was staggering at times. Whoever gets to the final, will deserve their chance (anybody got a couple of spare tickets ::) )

And is in sharp contrast for me with the women's game which is very poor in comparison.  The difference in technical ability and physical prowess is similar to the dfference between Champions League and League 1 football.  Whoever got them parity in prize money has performed a miracle.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Thailand Express on July 04, 2013, 01:49:56 AM
I'm just not a fan of his, and never will be.

Are you on twitter?...

http://wingsoverscotland.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/murrayfans.jpg

Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Bez on July 04, 2013, 07:39:30 AM
Credit where it's due,

Indeed, a couple of years ago he would have lost that game...

Quote
but it's looking like Djockovic's to lose.

It was pretty much that way before the championship started....the "dour" Scot has a chance though and potentially the easier semi...
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Bez on July 04, 2013, 07:40:46 AM
(anybody got a couple of spare tickets ::) )

I was chatting to a woman at Pilates last night who won a couple in the ballot....she was VERY excited at the prospect...
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Red Star on July 04, 2013, 07:46:03 AM
how did he get on then?  ::)

Well, at the time of this post he was just about to lose the 2nd set and there is no denying that he played very poorly by his own standard in the first half of this match. Credit to him for digging himself out of the shit that he put himself in but if he manages to get past his semi final match and play like that against Djockovic then I think we all know what the outcome will be.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on July 04, 2013, 08:04:27 AM
well done Murray...its in the bag now :)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: NeilP on July 04, 2013, 08:38:09 AM
Well, at the time of this post he was just about to lose the 2nd set and there is no denying that he played very poorly by his own standard in the first half of this match. Credit to him for digging himself out of the shit that he put himself in but if he manages to get past his semi final match and play like that against Djockovic then I think we all know what the outcome will be.

ok, but credit to Verdasco Chris, he was serving out of his skin for most of the game
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Red Star on July 04, 2013, 09:31:56 AM
ok, but credit to Verdasco Chris, he was serving out of his skin for most of the game

Agreed, Verdasco was playing very well but Murray in contrast was below par and making poor shot choices and numerous unforced errors. The quality of Spanish tennis is highlighted here - Verdasco is only the 9th best player in Spain (not sure of his world ranking) and he pushed the Britsh no.1 and world no.2 all the way. It was a very entertaining match to watch and credit to both players for that.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Muppet on July 04, 2013, 10:42:39 AM

Baffles me when ppl call Andy Murray "dour". He's from central Scotland. We consider him dangerously flamboyant, talkative & over-emotional
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Bez on July 04, 2013, 11:05:05 AM
Baffles me when ppl call Andy Murray "dour". He's from central Scotland. We consider him dangerously flamboyant, talkative & over-emotional

Brilliant  ;D
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Night Flyer on July 04, 2013, 11:50:59 AM
Verdasco is only the 9th best player in Spain (not sure of his world ranking)

I believe he's ranked at number 54.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: NeilP on July 04, 2013, 13:59:48 PM
Yes, but he used to be top 10 but had an injury, he looked dangerous yesterday and was really risking it with very fast second serves
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Red Star on July 04, 2013, 17:36:00 PM
Yes, but he used to be top 10 but had an injury,

Ah, that explains a lot - I thought he looked a bit handy.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on July 04, 2013, 19:43:38 PM
there's a couple of tough semi's to get through before we can think of a Andy Murray v Novak Djokovic final, Del Potro and the big Pole have looked very good this year... any from four perhaps?

Possible mate, but I'd say a 90% chance that it's the Serbian who will triumph.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on July 04, 2013, 19:45:04 PM
Are they playing tie breaks in the final sets as well now?
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: NeilP on July 04, 2013, 22:38:28 PM
no mate.... to the death as normal
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on July 05, 2013, 10:20:16 AM
one thing i have been noticing in a lot of games is the pretty poor sportmanship thats been going on.. losing opponents not waiting to walk off.. very noticebale with the Lisicki game last night.. poor form..
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: NeilP on July 05, 2013, 11:35:15 AM
her opponent probably went to put a towel down on the nearest sunbed tbh
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on July 05, 2013, 13:07:11 PM
her opponent probably went to put a towel down on the nearest sunbed tbh

looked like a massive sulk to me..
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Andrew_Haldane on July 05, 2013, 16:55:35 PM
Incredible mens semi heading toward a tie break in the 4th set anyone else watching?
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Andrew_Haldane on July 05, 2013, 17:10:14 PM
2 sets all amazing  :o 8)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Night Flyer on July 05, 2013, 17:31:29 PM
Following it in work via bbc website updates. Wish i could be watching but at least too it'll delay the 2nd semi final and i might even get to see some of it. Hope there are highlights of this later. I'm out of touch with catching up at night with this tournament due to other demands.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Straight Shooter on July 05, 2013, 20:19:15 PM
.. very noticebale with the Lisicki game last night.. poor form..
Indeed; think her opponent was already looking the other way before they had even finished shaking hands over the net, unlike the other semi where it was hugs all round...
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Blastzone on July 05, 2013, 20:26:36 PM
Come oan ya big hibee
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Blastzone on July 05, 2013, 22:30:55 PM
Magic

Well done Murray
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Straight Shooter on July 05, 2013, 22:51:59 PM
Come oan ya big hibee
;D

Nice one Andy!  :)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on July 05, 2013, 22:52:35 PM
excellent..superb stuff...
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: NeilP on July 05, 2013, 23:11:54 PM
missed it all.... sounds exiting. Take it that AM is British til 5:30 on Sunday at least?
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: döm on July 05, 2013, 23:18:56 PM
That was the first match I've watched in this year's tounament and it was pretty enjoyable.  I think that Polish lad will be there or thereabouts in the next few years.  Murray had to be at his very best to secure the win.

Normally I'd be pretty excited about a French girl being in the final but women's tennis is piss poor at the moment.  Still hope Bartoli wins though.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Straight Shooter on July 05, 2013, 23:28:22 PM
missed it all.... sounds exiting.
Yes, the Pole has left the tournament...  :D

Mind you, the earlier semi was an even more exciting game though - outstanding match!  8)

Worth watching on the Red Button if you've got a spare 4 hours...  :P
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: NeilP on July 05, 2013, 23:41:29 PM
nah.... I'm washing my hair
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Straight Shooter on July 05, 2013, 23:55:34 PM
 ;D

You'll be done then before the first point is won  :)

It's way head and shoulders over the Murray game...
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Blastzone on July 06, 2013, 01:11:57 AM
missed it all.... sounds exiting. Take it that AM is British til 5:30 on Sunday at least?

 :) :D
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on July 06, 2013, 21:26:28 PM
You've got to admire Murray's tenacity and consistency. I think he'd have struggled to beat either of the players in the first semi though. They both played superbly in a cracking match.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on July 07, 2013, 09:34:43 AM
come on Murray...:)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Andrew_Haldane on July 07, 2013, 09:37:36 AM
Hope he manages to tune out all that media guff about the hopes of the Nation resting on his shoulders...


GO FOR IT ANDY!  :)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Straight Shooter on July 07, 2013, 12:34:21 PM
Good luck Andy!

Even zoony's admiring you now!  :-X  ;)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Slim on July 07, 2013, 13:31:32 PM
I womder if Fred's time is up this afternoon?

(http://groover.dyndns.info/images/Fred_perry_statue_wimbledon.jpg)

I feel a Djoker victory is more likely I'm afraid. But Andy has a good chance here.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on July 07, 2013, 15:12:19 PM
this could be a loooooong match...
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on July 07, 2013, 15:15:52 PM
yesss.. first set in the bag .. come on Murray :)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on July 07, 2013, 16:24:43 PM
two sets in the bag.. come on....:)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Andrew_Haldane on July 07, 2013, 16:25:18 PM
Yes 2 - 0  8) :D
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Exiled Yorkie on July 07, 2013, 16:53:14 PM
the tide just turned Murray now to lose
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Andrew_Haldane on July 07, 2013, 17:11:54 PM
the tide just turned Murrays now to lose

Fixed for you ;)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Andrew_Haldane on July 07, 2013, 17:24:28 PM
 8) 8) 8) 8) YEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSS! YOU BEAUTY

ANDY MURRAY THE 1ST BRITISH MENS WIMBLEDON SINGLES CHAMPION IN 77 YEARS!!!

 8) 8) 8) 8)

Beats the world no 1 in straight sets
Get in!
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: NeilP on July 07, 2013, 17:36:40 PM
He's not a Scot then?

well played Andy Murray !
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Andrew_Haldane on July 07, 2013, 17:41:57 PM

 8) 8) 8) 8) YEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSS! YOU BEAUTY

ANDY MURRAY THE 1ST SCOTTISH AND BRITISH Shorts wearing MENS WIMBLEDON SINGLES CHAMPION IN 77 YEARS!!!

 8) 8) 8) 8)

Beats the world no 1 in straight sets
Get in!
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Slim on July 07, 2013, 17:43:28 PM
I said he'd never do it and the stats were against him - but I couldn't be more thrilled. Nicely dramatic last game as well. Couldn't believe it when he managed to convert that last point for the championship. I felt sure the tide was turning right there and then.

What a release that moment must have been - of the tension and weight of expectation not only of the match, but his whole career.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on July 07, 2013, 18:01:00 PM
absolutely brilliant..well done Andy :)        thought it was going to slip away with the three champ points he lost... but no.. brilliant.:)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Dixkot on July 07, 2013, 18:26:04 PM


(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/q71/s720x720/1044189_10151520266521966_1677604239_n.jpg)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Thailand Express on July 07, 2013, 18:43:39 PM
Superb, superb 8)
He's not Scottish or British when it comes to Wimbledon he's playing for Andy Murray and I couldn't be happier for him. What a fighter!
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Blastzone on July 07, 2013, 21:32:47 PM
...and breathe

What a feckin result.

Well done Andy ...proud as punch for you !!!

Beers are running oot here
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Straight Shooter on July 07, 2013, 21:39:54 PM
... and Novak still hasn't won a set against him on grass!  ;)

Well done Andy, superb stuff!  8)

Now then, where's that Red Button...
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Bez on July 07, 2013, 23:51:01 PM
Reasons to dislike Andy Murray :

(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQs5V10w0u-58GL7eNNjH7NkSqkoLkK5yXjHAWsm-FXGOFiYe1_9Q)
(http://web.orange.co.uk/images/ice/sports/judy_murray_pa.jpg)
(http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/47199000/jpg/_47199850_murrayfans766.jpg)
(http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2012/07/08/sports/tennis/08murrayfans_straightsets/08murrayfans_straightsets-blog480.jpg)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: mickpaz2112 on July 08, 2013, 07:06:19 AM
Well done Andy,not a tennis a fan but a great achievement.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: The Letter R on July 08, 2013, 08:38:23 AM
Great victory for Murray - now the Albatross of winning Wimbledon has been removed he could go on to win a few more Slams to add to the US and Wimbledon and become truly great. That's  Sports Personality of the Year sorted anyway!
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Red Star on July 08, 2013, 08:56:17 AM
Great victory for Murray - now the Albatross of winning Wimbledon has been removed he could go on to win a few more Slams to add to the US and Wimbledon and become truly great. That's  Sports Personality of the Year sorted anyway!

Zoony will be delighted! ;D
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Slim on July 08, 2013, 09:26:58 AM
The first page of this thread about the current Olympic, US Open and Wimbledon champion, from 2006, makes interesting reading in hindsight. I particularly liked the contributions from Bez and Neil. Can't say I would have disagreed (about his chances) at the time.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Red Star on July 08, 2013, 09:36:36 AM
The first page of this thread about the current Olympic, US Open and Wimbledon champion, from 2006, makes interesting reading in hindsight. I particularly liked the contributions from Bez and Neil. Can't say I would have disagreed (about his chances) at the time.

The Andy Murray of today is a completely different player even than 12-18 months ago. Now he has rightly proven that he is in the same league as Nadal, Federer and Djokovic.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Night Flyer on July 08, 2013, 10:35:49 AM
The first page of this thread about the current Olympic, US Open and Wimbledon champion, from 2006, makes interesting reading in hindsight.

I like the opening one from Red Star on the first page  ;)


Well feck him is all I can say, and I hope he gets hammered and humiliated by a complete no hope unknown who is thousands below him in the rankings.

COME ON WHOEVER PLAYS MURRAY!
 
Though i do admire his honesty.  ;D

Well done Andy.
Title: Re: Anyone but Andy Murray
Post by: Bez on July 08, 2013, 11:05:15 AM
I don't think you need to worry too much Chris, yet another over-hyped British hopefully destined for the last scooter to mediocrity-city....

Went back to read what I'd put on page one of the thread after Slim's post... ::)

Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Red Star on July 08, 2013, 11:42:25 AM
Yes, it seems that the thread title was changed from post 55 onwards ::) ;D
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on July 08, 2013, 11:48:46 AM
nice to see Novak being such a gracious loser.. you don't see too much of that these days.. so well done to him as well
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Andrew_Haldane on July 08, 2013, 11:52:26 AM
nice to see Novak being such a gracious loser.. you don't see too much of that these days.. so well done to him as well

Yep.....he is a class act like Federer and Nadal....


Hopefully this win will stop some of the anti Murray sniping
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Bez on July 08, 2013, 12:17:59 PM
Yep.....he is a class act like Federer and Nadal....

Yup, the top players have a great deal of grace in defeat....

Quote
Hopefully this win will stop some of the anti Murray sniping

Why ? has it stopped him being a twat ?

Cameron now calling for a knighthood ? Didn't realise that Murray went to Eton after a spell in Dunblane....
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on July 08, 2013, 12:27:33 PM
Interested to know why you think he's a twat.. certainly in years gone by he came over as dul, dour never smiled etc etc.... even i can see a big change in that respect... still unsure what he's doing to deserve the twat status..
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: The Letter R on July 08, 2013, 12:48:30 PM
The Andy Murray of today is a completely different player even than 12-18 months ago. Now he has rightly proven that he is in the same league as Nadal, Federer and Djokovic.

Quite agree and Lendl is a big part of that especially in sorting out Murrays mental preperation before and during games. I think also his mate Ross Hutchins cancer battle has made him take stock of what he has and how lucky he is. Murray gave all his prize mony from winning Queens to the hospital Hutchins is being treated at.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on July 08, 2013, 12:57:14 PM
i also heard he'd donated his Wimbledon winnings.. altho it was unconfirmed... he got £1.3 M for winning...
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Slim on July 08, 2013, 13:00:58 PM
I heard that too, nice gesture even if he can comfortably afford it. Actually given sponsorship and advertising possibilities the actual prize money could be a fraction of what the win was worth to him, even in strictly financial terms.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: The Letter R on July 08, 2013, 13:05:14 PM
Yes - there's lots of rumours but nothing concrete - it's reckoned he could make up to £100m in various product endorsements and sponsorship deals so although donating his winnings would be very generous it would appear to be but a small drop in the ocean of "potential" money he could earn.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: döm on July 08, 2013, 13:40:46 PM
I think he's since denied the charity thing.  I think he did donate 80k to a charity earlier this year - still a big gesture.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: NeilP on July 08, 2013, 13:45:01 PM
The first page of this thread about the current Olympic, US Open and Wimbledon champion, from 2006, makes interesting reading in hindsight. I particularly liked the contributions from Bez and Neil. Can't say I would have disagreed (about his chances) at the time.

aye, bit strong in 2006 were some of my comments though I appeared to mellow somewhat in July 2008, even singing his praises..... I don't think he'd ever have made the dramatic improvement if it wasn't for Lendll tbh.... he's a world beater now though I still can't take to his mother
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Night Flyer on July 08, 2013, 14:17:04 PM
Yes - there's lots of rumours but nothing concrete - it's reckoned he could make up to £100m in various product endorsements and sponsorship deals so although donating his winnings would be very generous it would appear to be but a small drop in the ocean of "potential" money he could earn.

I think he's since denied the charity thing.  I think he did donate 80k to a charity earlier this year - still a big gesture.

This bugs the hell out of me and i don't mean you guys on the forum. Who leaks this stuff if they're on his side or is it the charities? Surely it could be given anonymously? I'd hate to think he wanted it to be leaked for brownie points but who knows ? If he didn't deny the charity thing he's outed, if he does he's a tightie. It's no one's god damn business. I give out of my meagre wages every single month to projects you wouldn't believe but my peers haven't a clue and why the feck should they?
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Bez on July 08, 2013, 15:01:20 PM
This from Justin Currie's Facebook page....more a comment on Salmond than Murray, but worth recording here and pretty much sums up my views on it...

"There seems to have been a lot of confusion and bad blood stirred up by the strange sight of Alex Salmond attempting to raise the Scottish saltire behind David Cameron's beetroot little head in the posh seats of Centre Court after Andy Murray's victory in the men's final at Wimbledon (I'll never tire of saying that).
When I mentioned that I thought it was "cheeky" I was immediately lambasted by nationalists (presumably) who asserted that there is nothing mischievous about a national leader holding the national flag in celebration of one of the nation's sons' successes. I understand their point but I feel the need to explore this a little further.
Was Salmond's act akin to, say, the South African premier waving a national flag after seeing a fellow countrywoman winning an Olympic gold medal? Or Angela Merkel holding a little German flag on a stick after her country's football team have won a European championship? Well, no. Let's put aside the question of whether such things would ever happen. Let's put aside concepts of the dignity of office and protocol; I'm no great respecter of either. The subtle distinction here is that Salmond, the leader of a regional parliament that operates within a larger sovereign entity, is campaigning to secede from the very political union represented and supported by the pillock in front of him. These two leaders, one national and one regional, are diametrically opposed on the future constitutional relationship between that region and the larger polity. I am willing to forego any consideration of the efficacy, advisability or integrity of Salmond's action. I'll let others argue over whether it was an embarrassing display of political immaturity or the advertising coup of the summer. I'll ignore contentions that it smacked of vulgar opportunism or was a bold expression of national pride. But please, please - whichever angle you take on the independence issue - don't tell me that rolling up a sizeable Scottish flag and secreting it in your bag to hoist behind the British Tory prime minister's head after a Scot triumphs in that bastion of conservative Englishness, the All England Lawn Tennis and Croquet Club - isn't "cheeky".
The much bigger question is: would he have done it if Murray had lost?"
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Slim on July 08, 2013, 15:13:31 PM
Glad to see that Salmond has suffered a large measure of derision for his attempt to score a cheap political point there. Meanwhile Andy Murray is at Downing Street this afternoon, meeting his actual national leader, not the pretend one.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on July 08, 2013, 15:29:56 PM
yeah the Salmond flag waving was a cheap and nasty shot.... will have given the "No" vote a significant boost i would have thought...
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Thailand Express on July 08, 2013, 19:56:40 PM
I'm probably a Yes voter but have to say I found a bit naff and unstatesmanlike. But in the context of the day a fairly trivial gesture certainly not worth the column inches it was given.

The much bigger question is: would he have done it if Murray had lost?"

Salmond did say he also took the flag last year so the answer would be no there.

Justin Currie? A name I've not heard in a while!...
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Slim on July 08, 2013, 20:39:37 PM
I think waving the flag to mark the occasion of a defeat would be a bit unusual, so I can't say I find a problem there. But it just felt a bit like a John Terry moment. I suspect Eck was a bit disappointed when Andy made a reference to being the first British player to win for donkey's years  in his interview with Sue Barker right after he'd won.

(http://groover.dyndns.info/images/brit_murray.jpg)

Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on July 08, 2013, 20:41:38 PM
Well done to him, and he's proved himself to be better than I ever thought he would be. I won't be getting carried away with all the hype though, you know how I struggle with the Great Britain thing. All the Scots out there must be proud of him though.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Slim on July 09, 2013, 00:05:30 AM
As are the rest of the country :)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on July 09, 2013, 17:39:43 PM
As are the rest of the country :)

I don't know about that mate, I'd say there were plenty like me who it doesn't mean nothing to.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Red Star on July 10, 2013, 09:34:57 AM
I don't know about that mate, I'd say there were plenty like me who it doesn't mean nothing to.

er, that's a double negative there Zoons ;)

Whilst his tennis has undoubtedly improved substantially, he still needs to work on his PR. He is slowly getting better in this respect although I doubt he'll ever be classed as enigmatic. He will probably win sports personality of the year however ::)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Matt2112 on July 10, 2013, 09:56:17 AM
Got to say, his conduct post-win has been extremely dignified.  In particular, the knee-jerk and nonsensical Sun-reader talk of a knighthood was played down by Murray with great class.

I'm warming to his performance both on and off the court.  Fair play to a deserved champion.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Bez on July 10, 2013, 10:36:37 AM
Got to say, his conduct post-win has been extremely dignified.  In particular, the knee-jerk and nonsensical Sun-reader talk of a knighthood was played down by Murray with great class.

I'm warming to his performance both on and off the court.  Fair play to a deserved champion.

The Knighthood thing just has to be Cameron trying to get some votes on the back of the "Murray Zeitgeist" (as I saw it quoted the other day)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: pdw1 on July 10, 2013, 11:21:00 AM
Murray does seem to be handling all the media interest well. Love this story and his stonewall reply.

Murray had barely dusted the Wimbledon grass off his trainers before he was being asked by several reporters, including Holly Willoughby on This Morning, whether now that he had won Wimbledon he would propose to Sears, as though one has anything to do with the other. Murray, with his typical and endearing lack of interest in sentimental media conventions, wearily replied: "I only met you 10 minutes ago so I wouldn't be telling you if I did."

And that picture at No10 with Cameroon is priceless  ;D

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/07/08/article-2358352-1AB7DBF2000005DC-854_306x549.jpg)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Andrew_Haldane on July 10, 2013, 11:30:13 AM
Murray does seem to be handling all the media interest well. Love this story and his stonewall reply.

Murray had barely dusted the Wimbledon grass off his trainers before he was being asked by several reporters, including Holly Willoughby on This Morning, whether now that he had won Wimbledon he would propose to Sears, as though one has anything to do with the other. Murray, with his typical and endearing lack of interest in sentimental media conventions, wearily replied: "I only met you 10 minutes ago so I wouldn't be telling you if I did."

Excellent reply!
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Slim on July 10, 2013, 11:46:10 AM
The Knighthood thing just has to be Cameron trying to get some votes on the back of the "Murray Zeitgeist" (as I saw it quoted the other day)

That's very cynical .. I'm sure he just gave an honest answer to a question there, and good on him for his enthusiasm.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Thailand Express on July 10, 2013, 12:41:24 PM
And that picture at No10 with Cameroon is priceless  ;D

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/07/08/article-2358352-1AB7DBF2000005DC-854_306x549.jpg)

(http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/5672/epia.jpg)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Bez on July 10, 2013, 13:49:14 PM
That's very cynical .. I'm sure he just gave an honest answer to a question there, and good on him for his enthusiasm.

The quote from Cameron was "I can't think of anyone who deserves one more,"

If that's the best he can come up with when asked a question then shame on him....

Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Slim on July 10, 2013, 19:06:55 PM
The quote from Cameron was "I can't think of anyone who deserves one more,"

If that's the best he can come up with when asked a question then shame on him....

What do you mean, Bez?
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on July 11, 2013, 10:52:31 AM
(http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ8jkrMzInepbpkYFYPniFyD3lj9PZ2ITx_KkpJfGibbUUIKWapmQ)


(http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRaCEr4rkvt6EG7LbclPREXgzXjpyFSA5tixs1Sr27idxjSE4HEPg)

one is a drummer the other is a tennis player..:)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Slim on August 17, 2013, 22:31:17 PM
I wouldn't say the resemblance is striking
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Red Star on September 05, 2013, 21:55:07 PM
Murray thrashed in QF of US Open by Stan Wawrinka. He just couldn't get going at all in this match.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on September 07, 2013, 18:26:33 PM
Murray thrashed in QF of US Open by Stan Wawrinka. He just couldn't get going at all in this match.

I think McEnroe got it right when he said that the Scot needs a break.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Andy42g on January 14, 2014, 16:11:27 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/tennis/25724815
40 odd degrees. Jaysus.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on January 14, 2014, 16:13:07 PM
yeah bloody hell  .. anyway well done Murray... :)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Andy42g on January 14, 2014, 16:20:12 PM
yeah bloody hell  .. anyway well done Murray... :)
Yes indeed.   :)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on January 16, 2014, 13:39:07 PM
Andy Murray came through another day of punishing heat at the Australian Open with a straight-sets win over Frenchman Vincent Millot.

The Briton won 6-2 6-2 7-5 in the final match of the day on Rod Laver Arena, sealing victory at 23:58 local time.


Freezing cold 28 degrees this time  :)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Andy42g on January 21, 2014, 13:41:17 PM
Epic:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/tennis/25827470
Great win by Wawrinka.
Andy's up against Rog next. Fingers crossed.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on January 21, 2014, 13:57:00 PM
c'mon Murray... now that Djoko has been canned
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on January 22, 2014, 12:27:16 PM
beaten by Federererererer   in 4 sets.. :(
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Andrew_Haldane on January 22, 2014, 12:43:17 PM
beaten by Federererererer   in 4 sets.. :(

No mean feat to make it so far considering the year he has had. Cant see anybody beating Nadal in a final atm though
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on January 22, 2014, 16:32:52 PM
Should be quiet in here again for a while then  ;).
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Bez on January 22, 2014, 16:40:26 PM
Should be quiet in here again for a while then  ;).

 ;D
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Andy42g on January 23, 2014, 10:50:13 AM
Murray seemed happy enough. Back after a serious op and no ill effects. Job done really. Move along.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Andy42g on January 23, 2014, 13:59:47 PM
No mean feat to make it so far considering the year he has had. Cant see anybody beating Nadal in a final atm though
Yeah. Federer though seems fired up again.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Bez on January 23, 2014, 17:07:36 PM
Murray seemed happy enough. Back after a serious op and no ill effects. Job done really. Move along.

By "happy enough" you mean he didn't cry.... ::)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Andy42g on January 24, 2014, 08:50:36 AM
Here we go then - Federer vs Nadal.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Andy42g on January 24, 2014, 11:34:52 AM
Nadal vs Wawrinka then in the final. Really cannot see Nadal losing, but you never know. Should be a great match.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on January 25, 2014, 19:41:38 PM
It would be good to see a decent English male tennis player.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Andy42g on January 27, 2014, 09:01:05 AM
It would be good to see a decent English male tennis player.
Whatever  ::).

Great final. Rafa still half looked like he was going to pull it out of the bag even after knackering his back. The guys is a warrior.
Good to see Wawrinka hold his nerve, and another "new" name goes on a Grand Slam trophy.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: döm on January 27, 2014, 12:02:14 PM
It would be good to see a decent English male tennis player.

English tennis is in a dire state that it doesn't have one.  British tennis as a whole only seems to be able to produce 1 at a time. That's desperate really.  Doesn't take anything away from how brilliant Murray is though.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: The Letter R on February 03, 2014, 08:28:04 AM
Win over Querrey yesterday sees GB into the quarter finals of The Davis Cup - not beaten the US on their home soil in the Davis Cup since the 1930's so great result.
Next stop Italy in April.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Red Star on March 19, 2014, 16:51:51 PM
So, Murray splits with coach Lendl then;

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/tennis/26646809
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Jonners on March 19, 2014, 17:21:59 PM
Miserable x miserable = still miserable
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on March 20, 2014, 17:00:22 PM
I think he's had his bit of glory now, and it's all downhill from here.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: NeilP on March 20, 2014, 17:31:56 PM
haha
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on March 21, 2014, 10:14:06 AM
maybe his mom will take over...
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on April 01, 2014, 09:54:14 AM
look..we can all stay at his newly opened hotel now   :)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-tayside-central-26823280
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Andy42g on April 01, 2014, 12:58:34 PM
look..we can all stay at his newly opened hotel now   :)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-tayside-central-26823280
Looks nice.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Jonners on April 01, 2014, 13:42:48 PM
I can see Zoony rushing up there as we speak.....
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on April 01, 2014, 13:59:08 PM
he won't get in.... nae English allowed...
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Jonners on April 01, 2014, 14:07:00 PM
Just a load of inbred yank cnuts over for the Ryder cup!

Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on April 01, 2014, 14:23:10 PM
yeah hope the beds and catering is big enough...
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Andy42g on April 01, 2014, 16:27:55 PM
I can see Zoony rushing up there as we speak.....
If there's a buffet menu he'll be there.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on April 01, 2014, 16:54:41 PM
If there's a buffet menu he'll be there.

At last you make sense about something.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on April 23, 2014, 15:15:34 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-tayside-central-27114857

Freedom of Stirling.. well done son.... (bit of a crybaby tho)  :)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: NeilP on April 24, 2014, 12:25:45 PM
he's allowed to get emotional... I blame his mam
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on April 24, 2014, 14:07:30 PM
he's allowed to get emotional...
No he isn't. He's a man. Men don't do emotion.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on May 05, 2014, 10:06:38 AM
Sad news that former British number 1 Elena Baltacha has passed away after a short battle with liver cancer, aged just 30. RIP Elena.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Andy42g on May 05, 2014, 18:46:53 PM
Yup - awful news.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on June 06, 2014, 08:52:02 AM
In the French semis..against Nadal today..c'mon Andy  :)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: döm on June 06, 2014, 09:41:56 AM
In the French semis..against Nadal today..c'mon Andy  :)

Nadal at Roland Garros is about as hard as it gets.  Good luck to him.  He'll need it.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on June 06, 2014, 16:03:09 PM
oh dear..not going so well at the mo..

Nadal 6-3 1-1 Murray
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Andy42g on June 06, 2014, 16:29:24 PM
3-6 2-6. Nadal looking imperious.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Jonners on June 06, 2014, 16:41:31 PM
standard of mens tennis is pretty high at the moment, but the big boys tend to play well when it counts
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on June 07, 2014, 11:00:07 AM
demolition job that one...
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on June 07, 2014, 20:36:53 PM
I'd hate to see England get a beating like that in the WC.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on June 12, 2014, 14:38:46 PM
Well Murray's new coach looks like she's got plenty of balls...
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on June 23, 2014, 09:36:11 AM
Good luck to Murray for the Wimbledon opener...  :)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on June 23, 2014, 14:29:59 PM
Seems to be easing past the Belgian quite nicely....2 sets up at the mo  :)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: döm on June 23, 2014, 14:33:10 PM
Seems to be easing past the Belgian quite nicely....2 sets up at the mo  :)

Any noticeable differences to his  game passsed on from his new coach ?
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on June 23, 2014, 14:41:43 PM
Any noticeable differences to his  game passsed on from his new coach ?

not that i can see...  ::)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on June 23, 2014, 15:17:12 PM
and he's thru.. bit more of a fight for the 3rd..but pretty comfortable...
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Straight Shooter on June 23, 2014, 16:18:58 PM
Good luck to Murray for the Wimbledon opener...  :)
That'll have given our friends in England something to cheer for then........with some exceptions, of course!  :-X  ;)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on June 23, 2014, 16:45:25 PM
That'll have given our friends in England something to cheer for then........with some exceptions, of course!  :-X  ;)

well with them crashing out the WC in such a lame, incompetent way.. they need a winner to cheer on for a change  ::) ::) ::) :P
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on June 23, 2014, 19:37:28 PM
well with them crashing out the WC in such a lame, incompetent way.. they need a winner to cheer on for a change  ::) ::) ::) :P

Ha ha. My balls hadn't dropped the last time Scotland qualified for the WC  ;).
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on June 23, 2014, 19:59:30 PM
Ha ha. My balls hadn't dropped the last time Scotland qualified for the WC  ;).

better get a doctor check them out then mate  :)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Andy42g on June 24, 2014, 16:15:52 PM
Any noticeable differences to his  game passsed on from his new coach ?
I doubt you'd notice. It'll be the tiny things such as shot choices in certain situations; how to keep his head together etc. How she could be any better than Lendl though is anyone's guess. But hope it works for them.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: DavidL on June 24, 2014, 22:57:06 PM
I doubt you'd notice. It'll be the tiny things such as shot choices in certain situations; how to keep his head together etc. How she could be any better than Lendl though is anyone's guess. But hope it works for them.
He's a bit fragile emotionally and my guess is that he doesn't like being shouted at by a bloke. A more sensitive approach means less tears.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on June 24, 2014, 23:09:32 PM
There are 2 things I've got no interest in in watching in the sporting world - The England cricket team and that Scottish wanker who plays tennis.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on June 25, 2014, 13:52:33 PM
one set up already this afternoon.. great stuff.. :)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on June 25, 2014, 14:49:02 PM
easy second round... :)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Andy42g on June 26, 2014, 12:47:11 PM
There are 2 things I've got no interest in in watching in the sporting world - The England cricket team and that Scottish wanker who plays tennis.
Oddly enough you do post about Murray in this thread - so you do have interest, even if is it just in an internet trolling fashion.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Andy42g on June 26, 2014, 12:48:29 PM
He's a bit fragile emotionally and my guess is that he doesn't like being shouted at by a bloke. A more sensitive approach means less tears.
Amateur psychology week again is it?  ::)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on June 26, 2014, 20:32:27 PM
Oddly enough you do post about Murray in this thread - so you do have interest, even if is it just in an internet trolling fashion.

Yes, I'm interested in seeing him fail.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: DavidL on June 27, 2014, 01:09:46 AM
Amateur psychology week again is it?  ::)
No, this week happens to be opinion week... just like every week  ;)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Andy42g on June 27, 2014, 09:35:58 AM
Yes, I'm interested in seeing him fail.
Err - why on earth would you want to see him fail? Just out of curiosity, like.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Jonners on June 27, 2014, 09:38:48 AM
I think a lot of people (wrongly) still haven't forgiven him for the incident years ago where he wore the opposition footy strip when England were playing. When you read the whole story it becomes somewhat less of a hanging offence

Think Zooners may be one of them. Still, opinions are like bum holes, everyone has one.

Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on June 27, 2014, 09:43:47 AM
Err - why on earth would you want to see him fail? Just out of curiosity, like.

cos he's not English presumably...
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Andy42g on June 27, 2014, 09:55:57 AM
I think a lot of people (wrongly) still haven't forgiven him for the incident years ago where he wore the opposition footy strip when England were playing.
Ah - the joy of football. Bringing people together.  ::)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: JonL on June 27, 2014, 12:31:51 PM
I think a lot of people (wrongly) still haven't forgiven him for the incident years ago where he wore the opposition footy strip when England were playing. When you read the whole story it becomes somewhat less of a hanging offence


But why let the truth get in way of unjustified prejudice, eh?

Couple that with the fact that he's seen as "boring", which is apparently a hanging offence.
When was the last time we had some colourful tennis players? Agassi?
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Jonners on June 27, 2014, 12:54:56 PM
World full of boring sports people these days, which is why the colourful characters do tend to stand out rather a lot, the likes of Wiggins, Flintoff, Ronaldo, Shane Warne etc are very few and far between, and are often vilified and hated such as Danny Cipriani.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on June 27, 2014, 12:55:01 PM
McEnroe  he was good entertainment.. what about Borg ? he was as dull as dishwater.. still a great player tho..
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Jonners on June 27, 2014, 12:59:16 PM
The financial rewards are so high these days that its very rare for a top flight sportsperson to take any risks whatsoever

Rugby is a prime example, gone are the days of downing bottles of aftershave and kicking the Calcutta Cup down Princes street, or Wade Dooley driving a minibus off the end of a pier. They are all just brutishly big automatons who spout platitudes to interviewers, sit in ice baths and down pints of fruit smoothies
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: döm on June 27, 2014, 12:59:35 PM
McEnroe  he was good entertainment.. what about Borg ? he was as dull as dishwater.. still a great player tho..

Yes Borg was a metronome - never very exciting to watch but very effective. Won by waiting for others to make mistakes rather than by great shot making.  Murray is a much more entertaining player than Borg
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on June 27, 2014, 13:01:40 PM
Federer is fairly monotone an dull..but so what...
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Andy42g on June 27, 2014, 13:12:01 PM
Federer is fairly monotone an dull..but so what...
Yup. Seems a good bloke. Speaks about 5 languages, is great in interviews and has got along quietly being a fabulous tennis player for a long time. One of THE great sportsmen of this or any era.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Andy42g on June 27, 2014, 13:14:17 PM
McEnroe  he was good entertainment.. what about Borg ? he was as dull as dishwater.. still a great player tho..
McEnroe was a dick on court - his "antics" designed to put other people's concentration out. He was a fantastic player no doubt but really could be a brat, which was a shame.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: döm on June 27, 2014, 13:17:16 PM
McEnroe was a dick on court - his "antics" designed to put other people's concentration out. He was a fantastic player no doubt but really could be a brat, which was a shame.

Absolutely right about McEnroe.  Still it was great to see him challenge the po-faced pompous stuffiness of LTA establlshment.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Andy42g on June 27, 2014, 15:17:57 PM
Absolutely right about McEnroe.  Still it was great to see him challenge the po-faced pompous stuffiness of LTA establlshment.
Biting the hand that feeds. yeah - what a rebel.  ::)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: döm on June 27, 2014, 15:22:46 PM
Biting the hand that feeds. yeah - what a rebel.  ::)

Well  I always enjoyed it as a boy.  Might not react the same, grumpy old man that I'm becoming.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Andy42g on June 27, 2014, 15:51:54 PM
Well  I always enjoyed it as a boy.  Might not react the same, grumpy old man that I'm becoming.
Same here - he looked ever so cool going off on one, disrupting matches, berating umpires and line judges for no reason etc etc. I never could understand why all the grown ups disliked him  ???.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Jonners on June 27, 2014, 16:00:20 PM
Tennis was very stuffy at the time, especially at Wimbledon.

He stuck out like a turd in a punch bowl
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on June 27, 2014, 16:21:44 PM
Much preferred McEnroe to Connors.. he was a c*** tbh...
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on June 27, 2014, 16:43:00 PM
Err - why on earth would you want to see him fail? Just out of curiosity, like.

Well why would I want him to win over any other foreign player? I've always watched Wimbledon, but haven't seen a minute of it this year, and don't think I'll bother to be honest.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on June 27, 2014, 20:23:43 PM
Nice n easy tonight...
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Andy42g on June 28, 2014, 17:19:31 PM
Well why would I want him to win over any other foreign player?
::) You really don't understand this 'Great Britain' thing do you? Check your passport.

Quote
I've always watched Wimbledon, but haven't seen a minute of it this year, and don't think I'll bother to be honest.
Another question then - what's different this year with Wimbledon?
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Andy42g on June 28, 2014, 17:37:14 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/tennis/28070308
Good footy skills from the plucky Brit.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: DavidL on June 29, 2014, 07:39:37 AM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/tennis/28070308
Good footy skills from the plucky Brit.
Alan Shearer.......6!
(he'd have probably done better with a person either side of him to elbow!) ;)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on June 29, 2014, 10:13:32 AM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/tennis/28070308
Good footy skills from the plucky Brit.

top bloke indeed !
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on June 29, 2014, 10:23:30 AM
::) You really don't understand this 'Great Britain' thing do you? Check your passport.
Another question then - what's different this year with Wimbledon?

I can't help what's written on my passport, doesn't mean I have to take any notice of it though. As for your second question, couldn't tell you if anything was different with Wimbledon this year, but I just haven't had any urge to watch it.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Andy42g on June 29, 2014, 12:48:13 PM
Alan Shearer.......6!
(he'd have probably done better with a person either side of him to elbow!) ;)
Yes - that always seemed to help his balance.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Andy42g on June 29, 2014, 12:53:30 PM
... doesn't mean I have to take any notice of it though.
It does mean you should take notice as it's a legal document.  It one of the official things in life which defines you. ::)  :)

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I can't help what's written on my passport
True. You could I guess change you nationality to some thing else. But not English as that's not a nation.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on June 29, 2014, 13:31:46 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/tennis/28070308
Good footy skills from the plucky Brit.

henman ..92


http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p021ts6t
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on June 30, 2014, 07:43:35 AM
It does mean you should take notice as it's a legal document.  It one of the official things in life which defines you. ::)  :)
True. You could I guess change you nationality to some thing else. But not English as that's not a nation.

Yawn, such a Clever little boy...
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on June 30, 2014, 09:55:20 AM
Murray back on centre today...come on... :)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Andy42g on June 30, 2014, 11:28:48 AM
Murray back on centre today...come on... :)
Indeed. Week 2 - it gets serious now. He's been great so far.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Andy42g on June 30, 2014, 11:38:32 AM
Yawn, such a Clever little boy...
Not clever - just common sense.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on June 30, 2014, 16:48:43 PM
fist set to Murray..come on  :)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on June 30, 2014, 19:10:53 PM
Not clever - just common sense.

If you think so, and it keeps you happy  :).
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on June 30, 2014, 20:12:47 PM
fist set to Murray..come on  :)

nice n easy does it... :)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on July 02, 2014, 13:29:39 PM
Murray on court just now..come on Andy  :)

Sabine Lisicki out :(
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on July 02, 2014, 14:56:46 PM
Murray 2 sets down..oh oh  :(
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on July 02, 2014, 15:36:27 PM
and out..Murray was shit today tbh...
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Slim on July 02, 2014, 16:05:20 PM
Yes, only the second match he's lost at Wimbledon since 2011 though, not bad going. He's done very well up to now this year.

It's the Djoker's to lose this year now I would have said, except that I've just checked and he's losing to Cilic at the moment. Maybe Federer can get one last Wimbledon title.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Andy42g on July 02, 2014, 16:09:22 PM
Yes, only the second match he's lost at Wimbledon since 2011 though, not bad going. He's done very well up to now this year.

It's the Djoker's to lose this year now I would have said, except that I've just checked and he's losing to Cilic at the moment. Maybe Federer can get one last Wimbledon title.
That Aussie lad who beat Raffa looks a bit handy - and fearless.  Some good new names coming up through the ranks.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on July 02, 2014, 20:15:22 PM
Yippee the vile loathsome Brit is out :)

C'MON TIM!!!!
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: JonL on July 02, 2014, 21:25:11 PM
I quite fancy Federer to  do one last time.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: DavidL on July 02, 2014, 23:40:16 PM
and out..Murray was shit today tbh...
Seemed close to tears in the press conference - completely choked up. A good player but a bit too 'emotionally vulnerable' to ever be a great IMHO.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Red Star on July 03, 2014, 07:56:56 AM
Early days but so far his switch from Lendl to Moresmo has not really demonstrated anything positive in his game - if anything he has gone backwards. :-\ Yesterday was a total capitulation against a player he should beat all day long. It was quite weird to watch him play a match at Wimbledon totally devoid of any confidence whatsoever.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: The Letter R on July 03, 2014, 08:34:04 AM
We'll have to cheer on that Raonic fella now with the tidy serve - he's Canadian so part of the Commonwealth - and we all love Canadians round here, eh? ;D
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: döm on July 03, 2014, 09:10:50 AM
Early days but so far his switch from Lendl to Moresmo has not really demonstrated anything positive in his game - if anything he has gone backwards. :-\ Yesterday was a total capitulation against a player he should beat all day long. It was quite weird to watch him play a match at Wimbledon totally devoid of any confidence whatsoever.

Murray fails so let's blame the coach  ;)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Bez on July 03, 2014, 09:20:12 AM
Watched some of the match yesterday while testing a new streaming site at work....he looked dis-interested....reinforced all of my perceptions of him
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on July 03, 2014, 09:22:39 AM
Seemed close to tears in the press conference - completely choked up. A good player but a bit too 'emotionally vulnerable' to ever be a great IMHO.

he could hardly get the bloody ball over the net.. poor performance...
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Jonners on July 03, 2014, 09:45:33 AM
Either he is injured or that was a real mental issue, a really really poor performance.

It does happen of course, Nadal's record at Wimbledon has been poor he last few years, although grass is not his speciality.

The mental side of sport is massive, look at how England capitulated in the Ashes this winter, or the footballers in Brazil. It has to be some sort of confidence dip, but god knows what caused it, unless he saw his new coach in the showers and realised she has bigger balls than he does
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Andy42g on July 03, 2014, 13:18:57 PM
He seems Ok - just needs to work harder. Fair enough I guess.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/tennis/28138172
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on July 03, 2014, 15:32:52 PM
Watched some of the match yesterday while testing a new streaming site at work....he looked dis-interested....reinforced all of my perceptions of him

Stunk the place out by all accounts  8).
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Red Star on July 03, 2014, 20:34:23 PM
He seems Ok - just needs to work harder. Fair enough I guess.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/tennis/28138172

Who on earth is he trying to kid, he was the furthest away from being ok that he has ever been. He just handed in his title in the most lacklustre manner possible. Probably the single most shockingly bad performance in his entire career. There was clearly something seriously wrong.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: DavidL on July 03, 2014, 22:09:38 PM
Who on earth is he trying to kid, he was the furthest away from being ok that he has ever been. He just handed in his title in the most lacklustre manner possible. Probably the single most shockingly bad performance in his entire career. There was clearly something seriously wrong.
I sense a'tug-of-love' battle going on between the three ladies in his life  ;D
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Jonners on July 04, 2014, 09:42:42 AM
In many other sports there would be a few questions being asked, and research of the various betting sites.

AM does not strike me as a cheat/fraudster, but then again many moons ago I bought a LiveStrong bracelet......
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on July 04, 2014, 10:43:32 AM
I sense a'tug-of-love' battle going on between the three ladies in his life  ;D

does his mum count as a lady then  ?
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Andy42g on July 04, 2014, 11:36:34 AM
In many other sports there would be a few questions being asked, and research of the various betting sites.
So - he loses a match and "questions need to be asked"? The joy of modern sport.  :o

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... many moons ago I bought a LiveStrong bracelet......
Err - that was raising money for a cancer charity, so we can class that as good old whataboutery.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Jonners on July 04, 2014, 11:42:04 AM
I think you have missed the point

It was that bad a performance, so utterly out of character, that in many sports questions would be asked

The bracelet was actually bought as a bit of an investment, they were really hard to get hold of, and the theory at the time was keep them in the packets and they might increase in value

What did I know the man was going to be outed as an utter fraud. Still, as you say, some people benefitted and continue to do so from the charity, so not all bad
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: NeilP on July 04, 2014, 13:17:27 PM
you like others, chose to ignore the French protestations form the off regarding LA's achievements on two wheels following his illness
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Jonners on July 04, 2014, 13:35:33 PM
To be honest, I didn't even follow the sport at the time, so was clueless
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Straight Shooter on July 04, 2014, 13:52:14 PM
does his mum count as a lady then  ?
Maybe he was including 'Maggie May' instead...  ;)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Andy42g on July 04, 2014, 20:34:46 PM
you like others, chose to ignore the French protestations form the off regarding LA's achievements on two wheels following his illness
He was the Saville of cycling - fecklng everyone over and untouchable because he was respected and powerful.
But... shush about Lance in the here - take it to the cycling thread. Zoony will be in along soon complaining not only about Andy Murray, but have some serious issues with off topic conversation. There must be order.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on July 05, 2014, 23:15:45 PM
For those of you interested in the tennis, at least you've got a final between 2 legends to look forward to tomorrow.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on July 07, 2014, 08:51:44 AM
For those of you interested in the tennis, at least you've got a final between 2 legends to look forward to tomorrow.

And by all accounts it lived up to expectations as well.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Andy42g on July 07, 2014, 20:29:02 PM
Caught the last set - great stuff.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Red Star on November 14, 2014, 07:35:46 AM
Oh dear, 6-0, 6-1 at the hands of Roger Federer.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on November 14, 2014, 10:33:19 AM
Oh dear, 6-0, 6-1 at the hands of Roger Federer.

Lol, he's definitely Scottish again then mate.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: JonL on November 14, 2014, 19:47:30 PM
New coach please!!
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on November 15, 2014, 01:16:18 AM
Lol, he's definitely Scottish again then mate.
Still British
Still a loathsome twat.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on November 18, 2014, 16:29:46 PM
Still British
Still a loathsome twat.

British and Scottish both as bad!
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Red Star on November 27, 2014, 08:47:02 AM
Many congratulations to Andy on his engagement to Kim Sears after 9 years of dating! It's amazing how patient a woman can be waiting to marry a multi millionaire. No doubt Zoony will want to send them a card! :D
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on November 28, 2014, 14:39:09 PM
Many congratulations to Andy on his engagement to Kim Sears after 9 years of dating! It's amazing how patient a woman can be waiting to marry a multi millionaire. No doubt Zoony will want to send them a card! :D

A decent bit of stuff wasted on that prick.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on January 23, 2015, 12:27:40 PM
nice n easy so far in the Australian Open.. :)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Bez on February 01, 2015, 12:46:49 PM
Fair play "Mrs Murray"

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/tennis/31080294 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/tennis/31080294)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: NeilP on February 01, 2015, 13:23:38 PM
very good, AM was a tad unlucky too, needed to win that first set I think... Djokovic clearly wasn't injured either ::)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Red Star on February 01, 2015, 18:34:40 PM
Djokovic clearly wasn't injured either ::)

He said in his post match interview that Djoker's antics and gotten to him and he was disappointed in that. He has played him that many times that he should never allow that to happen.

In the end I don't necessarily think that Djoker outplayed him but he won by out psyching him.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: DavidL on February 01, 2015, 19:03:26 PM
Murray's mental frailties came to the fore again. He'll never be a sporting great with that impediment, I'm afraid - and anyone that sets such a bad example to young players doesn't deserve to be.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on February 01, 2015, 19:26:07 PM
bad luck Murray.. shame that Djoko's antics got to him...  first two sets were just great telly..
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on February 02, 2015, 10:22:50 AM
Another grand slam that ends up with one foreigner beating another in the final. It would be nice to have an English player make a final one day.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Bez on February 02, 2015, 22:55:14 PM
Another grand slam that ends up with one foreigner beating another in the final. It would be nice to have an English player make a final one day.

Dream on....
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: The Letter R on February 03, 2015, 13:25:40 PM
Another grand slam that ends up with one foreigner beating another in the final. It would be nice to have an English player make a final one day.

Look no further than Birminghams Jordanne Whiley then - by winning in Australia she has now won 5 Grand Slams in a row in Doubles Wheel Chair Tennis - a fantastic achievement and something which sadly most of the "English" and British media ignored.....


Grand Slam Doubles results
Australian Open
 W (2014, 2015)
 
French Open
 W (2014)
 
Wimbledon
 W (2014)
 
US Open
 W (2014)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on February 03, 2015, 22:35:56 PM
Look no further than Birminghams Jordanne Whiley then - by winning in Australia she has now won 5 Grand Slams in a row in Doubles Wheel Chair Tennis - a fantastic achievement and something which sadly most of the "English" and British media ignored.....


Grand Slam Doubles results
Australian Open
 W (2014, 2015)
 
French Open
 W (2014)
 
Wimbledon
 W (2014)
 
US Open
 W (2014)

Fair play to her then Keith.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on July 10, 2015, 14:19:32 PM
c.mon Murray... :)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Jonners on July 10, 2015, 15:58:52 PM
not watched a ball hit this year, completely lost interest in mens tennis
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on July 10, 2015, 16:10:44 PM
lovin' the men's stuff.. the woman can feck off...
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on July 10, 2015, 22:16:17 PM
twat...
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on July 12, 2015, 10:57:40 AM
twat...

I think the word you were looking for is schooled.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Jonners on July 13, 2015, 09:32:19 AM
Men and boys that (the final I mean)

Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: NeilP on July 13, 2015, 11:16:51 AM
disagree, Federer needed to win the first set and probably should have
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Jonners on July 13, 2015, 11:56:59 AM
hmmmm, his serve was made almost impotent, and the last set was a lesson in getting bullied
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Red Star on July 13, 2015, 15:21:27 PM
Yeah he didn't serve as well as he did against Murray and to be in with a shout of beating Djocovich that was key.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: NeilP on July 13, 2015, 16:02:17 PM
hmmmm, his serve was made almost impotent, and the last set was a lesson in getting bullied

at the end he'd lost the mental game... Djokovic's quality of return is outstanding... that's generally the key to winning I think
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Jonners on July 13, 2015, 16:23:33 PM
at the end he'd lost the mental game... Djokovic's quality of return is outstanding... that's generally the key to winning I think

I agree, and that can translate to all sports. Australians folded at the cricket, Federer subsided at the tennis, both put under unrelenting pressure and controlled aggression.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: NeilP on July 19, 2015, 17:20:33 PM
I note that Scotland have just beaten France in the Davis Cup 1/4 final
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Bez on July 20, 2015, 21:51:44 PM
I note that Scotland have just beaten France in the Davis Cup 1/4 final

Credit where it's due......the amiable Scot played a blinder......
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on September 08, 2015, 16:04:21 PM
Out in the last 16 of the U.S. Open to the South African
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on September 20, 2015, 16:41:16 PM
and GB thru to the Davis Cup final.. well done Andy...
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Thailand Express on September 20, 2015, 21:11:19 PM
and GB Dunblane thru to the Davis Cup final.. well done Andy and Jamie...

Fixed  ;)

Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on September 20, 2015, 21:43:35 PM
Fixed  ;)

yeah  :)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: döm on September 21, 2015, 12:26:19 PM
Talk that Andy won't be available for the final - gonna be a pretty one sided match if he's not playing.  GB will be lucky to get 0 !
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Thailand Express on September 21, 2015, 12:33:53 PM
Talk that Andy won't be available for the final - gonna be a pretty one sided match if he's not playing.  GB will be lucky to get 0 !

Can't see him missing a shot at the Davis Cup.
Heard him interviewed this morning saying he would give it priority over the World Tour Finals if it comes to it...
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: döm on September 21, 2015, 15:49:09 PM
Can't see him missing a shot at the Davis Cup.
Heard him interviewed this morning saying he would give it priority over the World Tour Finals if it comes to it...

makes sense - strange though to have 2 such high profile events on at the same time
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: NeilP on September 21, 2015, 18:12:27 PM
so who have Belgium got?
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on November 30, 2015, 09:04:07 AM
well  done GB team...
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: döm on November 30, 2015, 16:49:44 PM
well  done GB team...

Well done Andy Murray !  How many sets were won when he wasn't playing ?
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Bez on November 30, 2015, 17:15:22 PM
Good to see him run over to comisserate with his opponents at the end.....he's still a twat though ;)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on December 03, 2015, 20:07:36 PM
Good to see him run over to comisserate with his opponents at the end.....he's still a twat though ;)

At last a post in here I can agree on!
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Bez on December 20, 2015, 22:32:57 PM
So Murray wins the SPotY for the second time in 3 years, proving beyond reasonable doubt that democracy works, despite what the SNP say... ::)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on December 20, 2015, 23:24:37 PM
Democracy my arse. What's the only "major" sporting event the Beeb still show every year?

It's all a fix. If Murray has a personality then I'm a Hun -I'm an Englishman in England, I can use the term - and Tennis is just a pastime, not a sport.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Bez on December 21, 2015, 07:45:43 AM
Democracy my arse. What's the only "major" sporting event the Beeb still show every year?

It's all a fix. If Murray has a personality then I'm a Hun -I'm an Englishman in England, I can use the term - and Tennis is just a pastime, not a sport.

The last "personality" to win must've been Henry Cooper....
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: NeilP on December 21, 2015, 09:01:33 AM
The last "personality" to win must've been Henry Cooper....

I had to check past winners tbh but possibly Flintoff, Gascoigne, McGuigan, Botham, Jackie Stewart, Mary Peters since 'enery and his 'ammer?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BBC_Sports_Personality_of_the_Year_Award
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Bez on December 21, 2015, 10:09:18 AM
I had to check past winners tbh but possibly Flintoff, Gascoigne, McGuigan, Botham, Jackie Stewart, Mary Peters since 'enery and his 'ammer?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BBC_Sports_Personality_of_the_Year_Award

I'll give you Gascoigne  ;)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: NeilP on December 21, 2015, 10:36:27 AM
what about the fragrant Mary P? ;)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Bez on December 21, 2015, 10:43:13 AM
Lovely lady, I remember watching the performance....personality ?  ::)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Thailand Express on December 21, 2015, 12:49:37 PM
The last "personality" to win must've been Henry Cooper....

It's not really what it's judged on though.  And Sportsperson of the year doesn't have the same ring about it.

Anyway depends how you define "personality". According to the Oxford dictionary it's:-
"The combination of characteristics or qualities that form an individual’s distinctive character"

In terms of a competitive personality Andy is difficult to top amongst UK sport stars at the moment.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Bez on December 21, 2015, 13:54:17 PM
It's not really what it's judged on though.  And Sportsperson of the year doesn't have the same ring about it.

Anyway depends how you define "personality". According to the Oxford dictionary it's:-
"The combination of characteristics or qualities that form an individual’s distinctive character"

In terms of a competitive personality Andy is difficult to top amongst UK sport stars at the moment.

There speaks a Scotsman....
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on December 22, 2015, 10:15:59 AM
Used to love it, now don't bother watching it.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Thailand Express on December 22, 2015, 16:00:16 PM
There speaks a Scotsman....

  ;D
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on January 27, 2016, 13:57:02 PM
So far so good and well done to the other Brit  Johanna Konta
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on January 27, 2016, 16:27:38 PM
So far so good and well done to the other Brit  Johanna Konta

But is she English or Scottish?
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on January 28, 2016, 12:11:56 PM
it doesn't matter...
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Straight Shooter on January 28, 2016, 16:39:20 PM
Australian  :-X  ;)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: döm on January 28, 2016, 16:50:59 PM
But is she English or Scottish?

some would say neither !
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on January 29, 2016, 13:12:48 PM
and Murray thru to the final.. come on !!!
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Slim on January 29, 2016, 13:15:14 PM
He'll need to call upon all his reserves of British resolve, determination and old-fashioned Bulldog Spirit to overcome Djokovic, I fear.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Jonners on January 29, 2016, 13:59:46 PM
Amazing player, Murray should feel a little unfortunate to be playing in an era when Fed, Djok and to a lesser degree Nadal have been so dominant.

But, its always been the way in tennis, 1 or two players seem to utterly dominate an era, in either sex
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on January 29, 2016, 16:37:27 PM
I can't see it being anything other than another runners up medal fr the plucky Scot. Djokovic has gone to another level these days.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Thailand Express on January 29, 2016, 16:45:44 PM
Australian  :-X  ;)

Hungarian too. She has 3 passports!

Great fight back by Andy, but I really can't see him pulling it off on Sunday.
Although apparently no man has ever lost the same Grand Slam final 5 times before...
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Slim on January 31, 2016, 11:37:44 AM
Sorry to see that the punters didn't get much of a spectacle for the final. For the first time in a long time I think there's a single player with a gulf of ability between himself and second best, but I don't think Andy was on his game anyway.

Five Aus Open finals, five defeats. That must be hard to take.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: NeilP on January 31, 2016, 11:48:04 AM
it was much closer than the score suggested... all come down to the big points and line calls, the little fact that his wife is in early stages of labour some 24 hrs flight away might have been a tad distracting in truth?
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on January 31, 2016, 14:21:01 PM
Five Aus Open finals, five defeats. That must be hard to take.
A$1,325,000, worth coming second for.

Well done Djokovic. ABM :)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on January 31, 2016, 19:26:23 PM
I can't see it being anything other than another runners up medal fr the plucky Scot. Djokovic has gone to another level these days.

Glad to be proven right  :).
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Jonners on February 01, 2016, 09:26:34 AM
it was much closer than the score suggested... all come down to the big points and line calls, the little fact that his wife is in early stages of labour some 24 hrs flight away might have been a tad distracting in truth?

But that is what top class sport is all about, winning the vital points and seizing the initiative at the big moments.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on February 01, 2016, 19:13:33 PM
2 wins in 9 grand slam finals ain't the best is it?
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: NeilP on February 01, 2016, 19:24:31 PM
But that is what top class sport is all about, winning the vital points and seizing the initiative at the big moments.

with the corruption in the sport I don't think that's absolutely right ::)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Jonners on February 02, 2016, 09:14:43 AM
2 wins in 9 grand slam finals ain't the best is it?

Poor conversion rate, but in a singles sport no mean achievement in itself. There are an awful lot of very very good players in the world for the last few years who cant even get that far
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: NeilP on February 02, 2016, 13:57:47 PM
three of the best men ever (in terms of grand slam tournaments) have been around at the same time as AM... he's probably the best we've ever produced by a long long way and single handedly won the Davis Cup
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: döm on February 02, 2016, 15:11:47 PM
three of the best men ever (in terms of grand slam tournaments) have been around at the same time as AM... he's probably the best we've ever produced by a long long way and single handedly won the Davis Cup

True - except for the backhand !
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on June 01, 2016, 16:44:00 PM
well done Murray thru to the French semis...
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on June 04, 2016, 09:52:29 AM
easing into the final..come on Andy !!
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on June 06, 2016, 09:04:28 AM
fecked it up again....
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on June 10, 2016, 13:33:08 PM
He's getting a nice collection of RU trophies.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on July 01, 2016, 12:20:28 PM
nice n easy so far at Wimbledon...
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on July 01, 2016, 13:47:19 PM
and i'm quite liking Eugenie Bouchard as well at the moment...

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Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on July 01, 2016, 14:55:32 PM
Used to enjoy watching Wimbledon, but not now Murray is in his prime. Can't abide the pathetic hype about him.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Slim on July 02, 2016, 11:37:41 AM
I make Murray the favourite this year (as I type).
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on July 03, 2016, 06:36:26 AM
The out of work poet will be the favourite now Djokovic is out. FFS, with the Welsh football teams progress, is the nightmare never ending?
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on July 03, 2016, 10:22:12 AM
The out of work poet will be the favourite now Djokovic is out. FFS, with the Welsh football teams progress, is the nightmare never ending?
Just think of English Rugby.
English Cricket.
Englishish cycling in the Tour de France
English Gold medals for GB in the Olympics.

It is a shame that the Djoko I'd want to win Wimbledon is out though.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on July 04, 2016, 19:07:18 PM
nice n easy so far...
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: NeilP on July 04, 2016, 19:57:03 PM
Just think of English Rugby.
English Cricket.
Englishish cycling in the Tour de France
English Gold medals for GB in the Olympics.

It is a shame that the Djoko I'd want to win Wimbledon is out though.


The Rugby team are on the up - there seem to be a fair few o/s players there tbh
Cricket..... all English?
Cycling - you mean Adam Yates and Ian Stannard - the other Brits are from Wales, Kenya, New Zealand or the IOM I thought
Don't forget Norm Iron ;)



Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on July 07, 2016, 09:12:23 AM
Thought he was done for last night
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Thailand Express on July 10, 2016, 17:33:22 PM
Thought he was done for last night

Would've made a better final, too too easy  8)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on July 10, 2016, 18:32:48 PM
Arse >:(

So the non sportsman who is personality free is going to win Sports Personality of the year.

Arse >:(

He's not fit to lick the cleats of the likes of Mark Cavendish.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: döm on July 10, 2016, 19:39:13 PM
Well played Andy!

3 grand slams is a brilliant achievement! Career is not over yet either!
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on July 11, 2016, 09:06:30 AM
Yep well done Andy... faultless yesterday...
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on July 11, 2016, 15:17:49 PM
Unfortunately that was always on the cards after Djokovic got beat. Gutted.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Slim on July 11, 2016, 18:15:34 PM
Oh well, at least the Welsh got beat in the semis at the Euros.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on July 11, 2016, 20:10:50 PM
Oh well, at least the Welsh got beat in the semis at the Euros.

And got an open top bus parade! What the feck for?
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on July 11, 2016, 20:23:19 PM
And got an open top bus parade! What the feck for?
Losing is the new winning - see the Bremainers...
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Slim on August 08, 2016, 16:06:07 PM
With Novak out of the men's singles at the Olympics Andy must be favourite for gold in that competition this year, I would think.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on August 08, 2016, 16:38:49 PM
Yep... pity he got beaten with his brother in the doubles...
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Thailand Express on August 08, 2016, 22:53:34 PM
With Novak out of the men's singles at the Olympics Andy must be favourite for gold in that competition this year, I would think.

Del Potro looks very strong though. Playing on home South American soil too...
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on August 09, 2016, 13:41:02 PM
Del Potro looks very strong though. Playing on home South American soil too...

Anybody bar the Scot.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Richard_2112 on August 15, 2016, 00:35:03 AM
Very mixed performance in this Gold final at the Olympics. Come on Andy, shut those Argies up! They'll think they can have anther go at the Falklands if you lose.....
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Bez on August 15, 2016, 07:19:37 AM
Great win for Murray this morning...
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: BaldiePete on August 15, 2016, 08:15:24 AM
Anybody bar the Scot.


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Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on August 15, 2016, 12:02:13 PM
Well done Andy
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Jonners on August 15, 2016, 12:46:53 PM
Indeed. Fully deserved. Double Olympian, joining a select few brits
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Blastzone on August 15, 2016, 13:32:43 PM
Well chuffed for him, tremendous effort
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Slim on August 16, 2016, 09:35:30 AM
Can't help wondering what's wrong with Novak at the moment, but the US Open starts in less than two weeks' time so fingers crossed he's still out of sorts.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on August 16, 2016, 10:19:46 AM
Yes Novak def. off form quite a bit...  make hay will the sun shines everybody...
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on August 16, 2016, 17:56:22 PM
No comment  >:(.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on November 05, 2016, 15:34:25 PM
world no 1....

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/tennis/37882467
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Thailand Express on November 05, 2016, 16:37:41 PM
Fantastic achievement. What a guy  8)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Bisto on November 05, 2016, 23:10:53 PM
 :) 8)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on November 21, 2016, 09:35:08 AM
Outstanding....
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Bez on November 21, 2016, 09:49:15 AM
Outstanding....

Indeed, still a cock though.... ;)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Jonners on November 21, 2016, 12:56:00 PM
close to becoming the best British sportsman of all time I would have thought?
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Bez on November 21, 2016, 15:48:25 PM
close to becoming the best British sportsman of all time I would have thought?

Nowhere near IMO - and that's not my dislike of the bloke talking....

If he maintains top spot for the next 3 - 4 years then maybe...
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on November 24, 2016, 12:40:26 PM
close to becoming the best British sportsman of all time I would have thought?

Haven't you heard of Phil Taylor then?
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Bez on November 29, 2016, 08:16:28 AM
Haven't you heard of Phil Taylor then?

Careful Zooners, you'll start the "darts is a game / sport" row...
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Bez on November 29, 2016, 08:19:16 AM
Haven't you heard of Phil Taylor then?

Not to mention :

Redgrave
Daley Thompson
Jess Ennis
Hoy
Wiggins
Froome
Tanni Grey Thompson

etc etc etc etc etc
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: döm on November 29, 2016, 08:49:42 AM
He's up there in that list for sure. Fine achievement for the miserable Scot.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Thailand Express on November 29, 2016, 10:08:25 AM
Not to mention :

Redgrave
Daley Thompson
Jess Ennis
Hoy
Wiggins
Froome
Tanni Grey Thompson

etc etc etc etc etc
I'd say Mo Farah's achievements top all that lot.


Andy's certainly edged to the top for me in terms of greatest Scottish sportsman now. Eclipsing the likes of Eric Liddell, Denis Law, Jim Clark / Jackie Stewart and Chris Hoy.


UK wide it's a bit trickier to judge, there's such a wide range of successful athletes to choose from. Although for him to have maintained a place near the top of the world's most popular individual sport for so long is a fantastic accomplishment, especially given the strength of mens' tennis over the past decade.
That said Fred Perry won over 3 times as many majors, albeit in a different age.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Slim on November 29, 2016, 10:41:51 AM
close to becoming the best British sportsman of all time I would have thought?

Not of all time surely .. not even the best British tennis player of all time.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: döm on November 29, 2016, 10:52:49 AM
Not of all time surely .. not even the best British tennis player of all time.


If Fred Perry turned up in his long trousers, I'd imagine that he'd be lucky to get a game off Murray.  Thanks to training methods, diet, tactical awareness, etc,  modern sportsmen are far more accomplished than those of the past.  If it were a level playing field it would be an interesting match up though
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Slim on November 29, 2016, 11:45:52 AM

If Fred Perry turned up in his long trousers, I'd imagine that he'd be lucky to get a game off Murray.  Thanks to training methods, diet, tactical awareness, etc,  modern sportsmen are far more accomplished than those of the past.  If it were a level playing field it would be an interesting match up though

Yes I've made the same point myself, probably in this thread. Astonishing the way modern tennis players can keep managing improbable returns from one side of the  court to the other like table tennis.

But "greatness" and actual talent / skill aren't quite the same thing.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Jonners on November 29, 2016, 17:25:51 PM
You have to assume that a great sportsman/woman would be great in any era, and that advances in tech and training and nutrition would have the same impact on them that it does with the modern competitors
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: döm on November 29, 2016, 18:44:08 PM
You have to assume that a great sportsman/woman would be great in any era, and that advances in tech and training and nutrition would have the same impact on them that it does with the modern competitors
not necessarily.  Peak physical fitness seems to be the ultimate goal these days and in sports such as tennis and Rugby, strength and power wins out over pure skill.  So competitoors with a higher potential for this area will win out against more skilfull players.  In the past the more skilful players wouldn't have had to face players with the same level of physical/cardiovascular fitness and would have had the edge.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Slim on November 29, 2016, 20:01:22 PM
In tennis, the sport itself has changed as well as the levels of fitness and expertise. In the '90s men's tennis especially had become so dull, dominated by powerful serves and with very few rallies. It's a far more interesting sport now and I believe there's a lot more skill and strategy involved. I wonder how Pete Sampras would do in the grass court conditions of 2016 with modern balls, and I wonder how Novak or Andy would have fared against Pistol Pete at Wimbledon in the mid '90s.

It's the same for some other sports, of course. Formula One springs to mind. It's not even the same sport from one season to the next.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Jonners on November 30, 2016, 10:26:00 AM
not necessarily.  Peak physical fitness seems to be the ultimate goal these days and in sports such as tennis and Rugby, strength and power wins out over pure skill.  So competitoors with a higher potential for this area will win out against more skilfull players.  In the past the more skilful players wouldn't have had to face players with the same level of physical/cardiovascular fitness and would have had the edge.

Nope. Cant accept that. Anyone who had the physical and mental attributes to be better than anyone else in their era, would benefit from the advances in tech, training, nutrition, mental that have come with time, and be great now.

That is a fact
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: döm on November 30, 2016, 10:48:23 AM
Nope. Cant accept that. Anyone who had the physical and mental attributes to be better than anyone else in their era, would benefit from the advances in tech, training, nutrition, mental that have come with time, and be great now.

That is a fact


not everyone has the same physical capacity though.  And how many 5ft 8"/ 5ft 10" tennis players do you see nowadays ?   You may have amazing hand eye co-ordination and amazing ability with  tennis racket in hand, but unless you are equipped with fantastic cardio-vascular capacity and physical strength you will lose out to those bigger than you.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Jonners on November 30, 2016, 12:02:58 PM

not everyone has the same physical capacity though.  And how many 5ft 8"/ 5ft 10" tennis players do you see nowadays ?   You may have amazing hand eye co-ordination and amazing ability with  tennis racket in hand, but unless you are equipped with fantastic cardio-vascular capacity and physical strength you will lose out to those bigger than you.

But the way you are approaching this debate is ridiculous. You obviously cant time travel from one era to another for a match, so you have to look at the player relative to what is around him/her at the time. Each generation is getting taller, stronger and heavier due to medicine, nutrition and selection, so of course a much smaller person from a 100 years ago would get blown away by one of todays monsters.

A good example of this sort of thing is when Bjorn borg made a come back, but tried it with a wooden bat.

you simply have to assume that Alpha males/females from any generation would be an alpha male/female in another generation
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: döm on November 30, 2016, 12:57:10 PM
i understand all that - my point is that some of the subtleties of a sport like tennis are negated to a degree by the advance of sport science allowing players to be more physically capable than previously.  The net effect of this, I would imagine, is that if you were to bring the top 100 tennis players from any point in the past and give them the modern regime,  they would probably all still be top tennis players, but there could well be a significant difference in each players positioning.  The more responsive to the physical side, with greater cardiovascular capacity would be better off and the slighter but more skilful players would be lower down the ranking.


Impossible to know for sure, but that's my hunch.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Thailand Express on November 30, 2016, 13:37:45 PM
I tend to agree with döm. Certainly looking at football I think that many genius players of the past e.g. Frank Worthington, Tony Currie, Jim Baxter etc. would struggle to make it to the top in today's game. Not every player with an excellent football brain or ball skills has the attributes to become a superior athlete as most players at the top clubs seem to be nowadays.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Jonners on November 30, 2016, 14:29:41 PM
nah.

Not having that at all.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on November 30, 2016, 21:46:32 PM
nah.

Not having that at all.
Me neither. Carlton Palmer had a good engine, but he was a shit soccerball player.
Now Jan Molby, there wasn't an athlete, but he could play soccerball.

Oh, and Andy Murray's a complete Cnut. I didn't think I could hate a tennis player more than Dim Tim, but Murray is waaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyyy more detestable.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Thailand Express on November 30, 2016, 22:20:00 PM
nah.

Not having that at all.

Football has changed hugely since the 70s. Nowadays 1 in 3 players in England is of Afro-Caribbean origin, which is understandable as those players tend to be naturally faster sprinters.

Thinking from a Scottish perspective a midfield maestro from the 60s like Jim Baxter would probably have ended up like Charlie Adam today, hugely skilful but lacking the pace to compete at the very top.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: döm on November 30, 2016, 22:23:40 PM
Me neither. Carlton Palmer had a good engine, but he was a shit soccerball player.
Now Jan Molby, there wasn't an athlete, but he could play soccerball.

Oh, and Andy Murray's a complete Cnut. I didn't think I could hate a tennis player more than Dim Tim, but Murray is waaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyyy more detestable.


Using Carlton Palmer in an argument ?  That sounds like Godwin's law!
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Slim on December 01, 2016, 10:56:32 AM
But the way you are approaching this debate is ridiculous. You obviously cant time travel from one era to another for a match, so you have to look at the player relative to what is around him/her at the time. Each generation is getting taller, stronger and heavier due to medicine, nutrition and selection, so of course a much smaller person from a 100 years ago would get blown away by one of todays monsters.

A good example of this sort of thing is when Bjorn borg made a come back, but tried it with a wooden bat.

you simply have to assume that Alpha males/females from any generation would be an alpha male/female in another generation

But you can't assume that someone fit enough to play tennis at the highest level in (say) 1960 would be able, even by virtue of time travel, to get fit enough to play tennis at the highest level in 2016. Because Rod Laver or Ken Rosewall for example might just never have had the physical capacity to be a super-agile mega-athlete like Nadal or Djokovic. It's not just dedication and nutrition, natural aptitude must play a part as well.

And that's before you consider the different balls, surfaces, tactics etc which are obviously going to suit different individuals better.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Jonners on December 01, 2016, 17:29:18 PM
The only sensible way to approach this is to assume that a good sportsman back in the day, who was a product of the training, nutrition, practice, kit and technology available, and stood out from the crowd, would stand out by a similar distance with what is available support and tech wise these days.

Its just plain ridiculous to say sportsmen/women today would murder those in the past, so therefore must be better.

But then again, how do you measure who is best? By results. So, Usain Bolt is better than Jesse Owens, but Don Bradman is better than everybody. And there is simply no way of saying if a footballer is better.

Go figure. Its more confusing than Westworld!!!!!
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Slim on December 02, 2016, 09:31:32 AM
The only sensible way to approach this is to assume that a good sportsman back in the day, who was a product of the training, nutrition, practice, kit and technology available, and stood out from the crowd, would stand out by a similar distance with what is available support and tech wise these days.

It's not sensible to assume that. There's no way to know whether Fred Perry had the physical aptitude to be an athlete at the same level as Rafael Nadal, and no reason to suppose that he would. There's more to it than training and nutrition.

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Its just plain ridiculous to say sportsmen/women today would murder those in the past, so therefore must be better.

Well that's not the same argument (we were talking about some notion of "greatness"), but actually that's exactly what it does mean :)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on December 30, 2016, 23:28:18 PM
Better change the title of this thread.....
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: döm on December 31, 2016, 01:21:06 AM
Sir Andrew Murray ? What he's done on the tennus court has been amazing but I don't think it makes him worthy of a knighthood. Same for Jessica Ennis and Mo Farah.
I think the whole system needs to be completely reassessed,
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Thailand Express on December 31, 2016, 13:05:19 PM
Sir Andrew Murray ? What he's done on the tennus court has been amazing but I don't think it makes him worthy of a knighthood. Same for Jessica Ennis and Mo Farah.
I think the whole system needs to be completely reassessed,

They lowered the bar giving them to people for going fast on a bike so it's only natural for it to happen...
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Slim on December 31, 2016, 16:02:41 PM
I was disappointed when Wiggo got his K I must admit, didn't think he had the personal stature or dignity at the time. Not quite the right sort of chap. But reading and watching interviews with him later convinced me that I'd been wrong about that (yep, a collector's item).

The only honour I've really been offended by is Simon Hughes' knighthood. I still find that shocking. Astonishing.

As for Andy Murray, Jessica Ennis and Mo Farah - fair enough on Andy and Mo, but does Jessica really deserve do be higher up the honours food chain than Laura Trott? One Olympic Gold and three world championships versus FOUR Olympic Golds and a similar tally of world championships - I know it's hard to compare achievements for different sports bit for me Laura should have a D all day long, and I'm not sure Jessica should.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: NeilP on December 31, 2016, 20:17:39 PM
I've more admiration for Phil Scraton for turning down his new year's honour

The age of celebrity is here and these things are dished out all over the place, . Give them to charitable folk but why honour multi-millionaires from the sporting world?
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Matt2112 on December 31, 2016, 21:31:59 PM
Meaningless accolades from an outmoded, decrepit dynasty that should be put out to pasture - no wonder Murray looked and sounded so underwhelmed.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on January 01, 2017, 00:35:58 AM

The age of celebrity is here and these things are dished out all over the place, . Give them to charitable folk but why honour multi-millionaires from the sporting world?
Yup. BLiar was the main culprit behind this IMHO giving gongs to the Ashes team. If folk get to 75 then yes, if they're still remembered reward them. Otherwise let them rot.
If Doddy has to wait until he's 89 then these folk can.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Slim on January 01, 2017, 10:14:27 AM

The age of celebrity is here and these things are dished out all over the place, . Give them to charitable folk but why honour multi-millionaires from the sporting world?

Well the practice of giving honours to luminaries from the sporting world is, irrespective of its merits or otherwise, not a recent development. Len Hutton got a K over 60 years ago; Roger Bannister got one in the '70s. I think they possibly are getting doled out a bit too easily now but I certainly think the likes of Jackie Stewart, Mary Peters and indeed Andy Murray deserve to be recognised in that way.

I'm reminded of this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmXzGI0XP7M
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: DavidL on January 01, 2017, 20:09:06 PM
Yup. BLiar was the main culprit behind this IMHO giving gongs to the Ashes team. If folk get to 75 then yes, if they're still remembered reward them. Otherwise let them rot.
If Doddy has to wait until he's 89 then these folk can.
I agree. I'm not keen on the giving of knighthoods/damehoods to relatively young sportsmen/sportswomen.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Thailand Express on January 01, 2017, 21:50:39 PM
I think they possibly are getting doled out a bit too easily now but I certainly think the likes of Jackie Stewart, Mary Peters and indeed Andy Murray deserve to be recognised in that way.

Don't disagree although Stewart and Peters had to wait until they were over 25 years into retirement to get the awards. Andy Murray didn't even get a promotion to a CBE first, which would previously have been seen as the more natural progression to a knighthood, until they started dishing them out willy nilly that is...
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on January 08, 2017, 11:27:45 AM
You wouldn't catch me calling him sir. I'd just ignore the twat.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on January 08, 2017, 12:33:52 PM
You wouldn't catch me calling him sir. I'd just ignore the twat.
LOL

Can he renounce his knighthood now normal service has been resumed?
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Slim on January 08, 2017, 12:35:38 PM
Disappointed to see that Sir Andy was beaten in the final of the Qatar Open by Novak - but the recently-honoured world number one retains has place at the top of the ladder for now. Doesn't bode well for a good year for him though, given that Novak is now his sole nemesis. The Serb has gone through a difficult patch, but possibly sorted himself out.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: döm on January 08, 2017, 12:38:54 PM
Heard him called Sir Andy Murray on the radio. Sounds absolutely ridiculous.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Slim on January 08, 2017, 13:04:51 PM
NO U
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Slim on January 19, 2017, 15:48:19 PM
Novak has been dumped out of the Australian Open by Denis Istomin, currently ranked 117 in the world. So Sir Andy is definitely the favourite to take the Men's Singles title there this year, but perhaps more importantly it points to a continuing lack of consistency on the part of the Serbian tennis ace. Sir Andy might hold onto his #1 rank and pick up another slam or two this year.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on January 19, 2017, 20:12:42 PM
Federer and Nadal are still lurking aren't they  ?
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Slim on January 20, 2017, 07:55:53 AM
Yes, but while neither can be discounted, neither is the force he once was. Roger in particular hasn't won a slam since 2012,
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: The Letter R on January 20, 2017, 14:34:08 PM
Pity Del Potro pulled out of the Aussie Open - I think when he is fit he will be the biggest threat to Murray this year. Nadal's body is nearly destroyed by over training, think the only chance he has of winning will be on Clay in France. Murray should be number 1 for at least half the year as he started 2016 badly and picked up most of his points from later in the year so as last years points get deducted over this year it won't affect him until later by which time he should have picked up more anyway.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on January 22, 2017, 13:39:22 PM
and he's out...idiot....
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Slim on January 23, 2017, 11:54:46 AM
Yes, disappointing that he failed to capitalise on Novak's early exit. Rather like the US Open last year (or was it the French? Whatever)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: The Letter R on January 27, 2017, 14:00:14 PM
Federer vs Nadal final - just like old times.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on January 28, 2017, 19:35:11 PM
Federer vs Nadal final - just like old times.


Just another 2 foreigners playing a tennis match.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: The Letter R on January 31, 2017, 08:35:38 AM

Just another 2 foreigners playing a tennis match.


2 of the greatest tennis players of all time - don't really care where they come from  :)
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Jonners on January 31, 2017, 09:30:30 AM
Agreed.

Sport would be very dull if we weren't allowed to watch Jonny Foreigner play
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Fishy on January 31, 2017, 15:21:19 PM
andy foreigner....
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: döm on January 31, 2017, 15:41:27 PM
andy foreigner....
Sir Andy Foreigner
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on February 06, 2017, 10:42:51 AM
Agreed.

Sport would be very dull if we weren't allowed to watch Jonny Foreigner play


Absolutely mate. My point was that to an Englishman, it was no different than if Murray had been playing either of them.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Slim on July 27, 2017, 11:30:37 AM
Of course it's different, he's British. Being English or Scottish is next to meaningless from a national perspective.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on July 28, 2017, 14:49:02 PM
Of course it's different, he's British. Being English or Scottish is next to meaningless from a national perspective.


Not in my eyes mate, so we'll beg to differ.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Slim on January 11, 2019, 10:59:23 AM
Looks like it's nearly the end of the road for Sir Andy, sadly. He was hoping to retire after this year's Wimbledon, but may have to bow out after the Australian Open this month. Apparently he's contemplating an operation to have his hip resurfaced just to improve his general quality of life in retirement.

He won't be remembered as one of the greats in a global context, but he can count two Wimbledon Men's titles, a US Open, an Olympic Gold medal and a knighthood among his achievements. Not bad compared to expectations expressed in the first couple of pages of this thread in 2006.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Jonners on January 11, 2019, 11:50:17 AM
Good player, part of that wonderful team effort at the Olympics, and 3 grand slams. Just hoping he doesnt take up commentary........
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: The Letter R on January 11, 2019, 12:17:45 PM
Just hoping he doesnt take up commentary........


 ;D
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on January 14, 2019, 22:51:41 PM
A cock of the highest order.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Slim on January 15, 2019, 17:08:39 PM
One of the greatest sportsmen that our country has ever produced.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Jonners on January 15, 2019, 17:18:00 PM
here we go....
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Nïckslïkk2112 on January 15, 2019, 20:05:20 PM
One of the greatest cocks our country ever produced. Apart from the fact he isn't great at anything. Go, in the name of God go, and take your bloody awful mother with you.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: döm on January 15, 2019, 23:51:16 PM
Thanks for the laugh!
He was an excellent player though and to reach the standard he did despite the awful LTA is some achievement.


His bloody awful mother probably had a part to play!
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Bez on January 16, 2019, 10:34:17 AM
The BBC have been creaming their collective pants over this....only Brexit has interrupted the coverage of his final demise.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: zoony on January 16, 2019, 15:21:45 PM
One of the greatest sportsmen that our country has ever produced.


Only argument I have with that is that he isn't from my country, he's Scottish. Still a cock where ever he's from.
Title: Re: The Andy Murray thread
Post by: Slim on January 26, 2019, 16:36:49 PM
Well he is from mine. I'm British.