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Title: The Beatles
Post by: Ashley on December 16, 2002, 00:21:41 am
Anyone heard of 'em?
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Chris Quartly on December 16, 2002, 03:39:36 am
Who  ???
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Ron on December 16, 2002, 03:43:26 am
Aren't they the obscure Rolling Stones wannabees??
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Slim on December 16, 2002, 04:37:25 am
Culturally of course, the most important band of them all, by light years - indeed, they transcended popular music and the notion of being a 'band', they were a defining part of the decade which more than most defined the 20th Century - a cultural phenomenon at the epicentre of a global cultural explosion.

I am often amazed, though I lived through it, albeit as a child - to look back at the 1960s and consider how the world changed in those ten brief years from 1960 to 1969 - from the austere, uniform grey post-war era of the early '60s to the colourful, anything goes era of rock music, civil rights, long hair and wild clothes, social change.  It's even more amazing when you consider how little popular culture has changed in the last dozen years or so.  If you were somehow to take a record from one of today's bands back ten years, in most cases it wouldn't sound out of place.  Yet if you took a typical record from 1968 back only 5 years to 1963, it would be wildly out of place - culturally it would be freakishly alien.  Similarly, if I hopped in a Tardis back to 1992 I wouldn't bother to change.  But if I were to wear typical 1968 street clothes on a brief visit to 1963, I would most likely be arrested.

The Beatles are a very important part of that remarkable decade - whether, as I believe, they actually helped to define the sixties and change the world, or they were merely sitting on top of the ship and waving the flag, being blown along by the same winds of change as everyone else - their importance cannot be overestimated.

One of my favourite books, one that I return to over and over again is the excellent Revolution In The Head by Ian McDonald.  It gives a history and analysis of every Beatles song, but more interestingly it's an examination of the Beatles' place in the 1960s.

This is my favourite passage, about the release of Sergeant Pepper, which was perhaps the defining moment of the 1960s, the sunrise at the very dawn of the rock music culture which would persist for decades to follow:

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In America normal radio play was virtually suspended for several days, only tracks from Sergeant Pepper being played.  An almost religious awe surrounded the LP.  Paul Kantner of Jefferson Airplane remembers how the Byrds' David Crosby brought a tape of Sergeant Pepper to their Seattle Hotel and played it all night in the lobby with a hundred young fans listening quietly on the stairs, as if rapt by a spiritual experience.  'Something', says Kantner, 'enveloped the whole world at that time and it just exploded into a renaissance'.

The psychic shiver which Sergeant Pepper sent through the world was nothing less than a cinematic dissolve  from one Zeitgeist to another.  In The Times, Kenneth Tynan called it 'a decisive moment in the history of Western civilisation'.
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Ashley on December 16, 2002, 05:10:19 am
A strange one for me.

When I was growing up in the 70's, my world was quite anti-Beatle, it was trendy & 'current' amongst my peers not to listen to the Beatles, but instead to be into Rush (yes Rush), Zep, The Clash, Punk etc. But of course, with the Beatles they are ever present, you can't escape them because they get so much radio play. They are the band that I knew 20 or 30 of their songs off by heart even though I never owned a record of theirs.

They are the band of Osmosis, like Elvis and unlike other bands like the Stones you absorb their songs, you remember the lyrics, the songs infiltrate your head, there is no escape.

Once I got into my 30's I suddenly realised I quite liked their music, and started to buy the CD's. I re-discovered the songs with new ears and I loved them, I became a true fan of their art, and what artists.

There is the catchy 60's early stuff, the songs that rolled off the production line and became back to back hits, then there are the thoughtful and complex later songs, the solo work and the amazing albums like Sgt Pepper.

When Lennon died I remember one friend at school being red eyed with grief, being the 'boys' we were, we mocked at this, when George Harrison died recently I felt a loss, I listened to his songs off the Beatles records and felt the tradgedy!

With my job, I book bands all of the time, I book Beatles tribute bands and the last one was in September. It was a Belgian Beatles band and they were magnificent. The music hit you straight away, the harmonies, the tunes, the melodies were fantastic, yet what struck me most was the love of the guests for the songs, they were smiling as each song was begun, they warmed to the band immediately. I asked my colleague who sings Beatles songs as part of his act how difficult they were, he said that although the songs sound very simple and straightforward, sometimes they are a lot more complex than they appear, and the vocal harmonies can be very tricky and far more difficult that one would imagine. One 'genius' of a keyboard player that we work with truly believes that Paul McCartney is quite possibly one of the most talented human beings musically that has ever lived!

I think in my early formative years I would do the opposite to what I was told or asked to do, and I think this is what made me ignore the band deliberately, they were the band my Mother liked, my friends parents liked them, and they represented the 'older' generation to me and were not for me. Today, my 2 sons (14 & 16) constantly borrow my Beatles CD's, they love them, Thomas is a huge Lennon fan and they have the wit to see the band for what they are, the most important band ever.

Like Slim say's, it is arguable that they rode the crest of a generation, they may even have created the wave!

Personally, I think they eclipse all other bands for their achievement, almost every band since has been influenced by them at some point. Even Rush played a Beatles song in their earliest gigs.

They also are a timely reminder of our own ageing and mortality, when Lennon died I was 17, when Harrison died I was 39, the other two - when they go - will see me even older, a very humbling thought.

Finally, on a happier note, I accidently caught Paul McCartney on the Queen's Jubilee party, I thought he was magnificent a true musical genius.


Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Mark_Williams on December 16, 2002, 15:01:40 pm

Rubber Soul is one of my all-time favourite albums.

Not bad for a bunch of amateurs
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Ashley on December 16, 2002, 15:30:43 pm
QuoteI started a thread on the Beatles ages ago, but withdrew it when Chris had a go at me
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Liquid Grace Productions on December 16, 2002, 18:27:22 pm
They also build cars, right?
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Analog RH on December 16, 2002, 19:48:02 pm
To hone in on one song is perhaps unfair, but Helter Skelter is where its at for me.

That bass line is THE BOMB.
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Chris Quartly on December 16, 2002, 20:13:50 pm
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My apologies Mark.

I did look but couldn't find one, now I know why.

He is very bossy isn't he?
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Micke.K on February 12, 2003, 16:49:18 pm
Well, there is a lot to be said about these 4 guys (and most of it has already been said, here and in other places..)

I like Slim's post here....The Beatles were far more than just 4 talented musicians/songwriters....they changed the world.

I have read a couple of books about The Beatles, and also biographies about John Lennon and Paul McCartney, and they were/are amazing people.

So - instead of writing a book here, I will just list my favourite albums:

1. Revolver
2. Rubber Soul
3. Abbey Road
4. Sgt. Pepper
5. For Sale
6. A Hard Day's Night
7. White Album (Some great songs/Some NOT!)
8. With The Beatles
9. Please Please Me
10. Let it be (I think Phil Spector ruined this producion)

I also like "Live at the BBC", but it was released long, long after it's time, so I kept it out of my list. I've got "Anthology 1-3" and some songs are really good, but many of the songs are outtakes....and they made the right decision when they took 'em out...IMHO. But they are great fun to have...



Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Slim on February 12, 2003, 18:45:32 pm
QuoteI've got "Anthology 1-3" and some songs are really good, but many of the songs are outtakes....and they made the right decision when they took 'em out...IMHO. But they are great fun to have...

I agree, some of them are unfinished and are only presented on the Anthology albums as being of historical interest.  However, some of the previously unreleased material is stunning - the alternative versions of 'Got To Get You Into My Life' and 'Strawberry Fields' for example.
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Micke.K on February 12, 2003, 18:50:20 pm
Yeah, I like those too. ;D

And a couple of the live tracks on "Anthology 1" are really good, especially those recorded in Sweden, for Swedish radio. They have this great raw sound, with just the right amount of distortion....I love "Money" from that session

I read somewhere that the swedish technichian had approached John Lennon after the recording and apologized for the sound: "I'm really sorry John for the distortion"

John Lennon said: "We love distortion!!!! Great sound!"
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Slim on March 30, 2005, 20:24:24 pm
Wow, two years since anyone posted in this thread! I think there must be another Beatles thread somewhere.

Anyway, just a brief note to say that the Internet has a brand new Beatles forum, for European fans - Dig It (http://beatles.dyndns.org/). I know TNMS has a few Beatles fans, so if you'd like to turn up and take part (we don't have a lot of contributions so far!) please do.
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Pudders on March 30, 2005, 21:46:35 pm
Just had a peep - I'll be over later James, save me a seat will you? :D
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Steve_Harrison on March 30, 2005, 21:54:44 pm
Beatles = waste of time  ::)
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Fishy on March 30, 2005, 22:49:00 pm
QuoteBeatles = waste of time
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Stuart B on March 30, 2005, 22:51:31 pm
QuoteBeatles = waste of time  ::)

Run for cover..... ;D ;D
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: andyhaines on March 30, 2005, 23:20:44 pm
Some really dodgy moderators over on that forum. ;)
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: captainkurtz on March 30, 2005, 23:52:19 pm
QuoteBeatles = waste of time
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Led Boots on March 31, 2005, 01:04:31 am
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Only because there aren't any ROIO's
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Ian Hills on March 31, 2005, 02:02:04 am
QuoteWell, there is a lot to be said about these 4 guys (and most of it has already been said, here and in other places..)



Let it be (I think Phil Spector ruined this producion)





The Let It Be Naked CD released recently has the original recordings without the Phil Spector mixes-It's much better!
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Ian Hills on March 31, 2005, 02:04:12 am
QuoteWow, two years since anyone posted in this thread! I think there must be another Beatles thread somewhere.

Anyway, just a brief note to say that the Internet has a brand new Beatles forum, for European fans - Dig It (http://beatles.dyndns.org/). I know TNMS has a few Beatles fans, so if you'd like to turn up and take part (we don't have a lot of contributions so far!) please do.
Cheers Slim, I will take a look at that !
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Steve_Harrison on March 31, 2005, 02:25:05 am
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Only because there aren't any ROIO's
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: zoony on March 31, 2005, 04:21:01 am
You have to admire Lennon and McCartney as songwriters, but the Beatles music has never done anything for me, sorry. I've always tended to think that the Beatles were in the right place, at the right time.
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Pudders on March 31, 2005, 05:07:26 am
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The Let It Be Naked CD released recently has the original recordings without the Phil Spector mixes-It's much better!

It is indeed :)
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Ian Hills on March 31, 2005, 06:05:22 am
QuoteYou have to admire Lennon and McCartney as songwriters, but the Beatles music has never done anything for me, sorry. I've always tended to think that the Beatles were in the right place, at the right time.
John Lennon wasn't on 8 December 1980.
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Ashley on March 31, 2005, 14:43:28 pm
QuoteYou have to admire Lennon and McCartney as songwriters, but the Beatles music has never done anything for me, sorry. I've always tended to think that the Beatles were in the right place, at the right time.

Hamburg?
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Neillwith2Ls on March 31, 2005, 16:47:55 pm
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Hamburg?

As a live band The Beatles were probably at their snarling, vicious peak during their last few Hamburg stints. Admittedly the songs weren't the best, but according to eye-witnesses, they used to tear through their rock n' roll-heavy sets, zoned out on booze and/or uppers ;D
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Sary on March 31, 2005, 17:31:24 pm
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As a live band The Beatles were probably at their snarling, vicious peak during their last few Hamburg stints. Admittedly the songs weren't the best, but according to eye-witnesses, they used to tear through their rock n' roll-heavy sets, zoned out on booze and/or uppers ;D

Yes, by all accounts it appears they were more 'punk' than punk bands themselves some twenty years later...!

Sometimes I wonder what would have happened if Epstein had never descended those stairs down to The Cavern in 1961 to see them play...
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Neillwith2Ls on March 31, 2005, 17:51:22 pm
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Yes, by all accounts it appears they were more 'punk' than punk bands themselves some twenty years later...!

Sometimes I wonder what would have happened if Epstein had never descended those stairs down to The Cavern in 1961 to see them play...

I'm sure someone would have snatched them up, but imagine if they hadn't :o What would the music scene be like today with no Beatles? I guess we would have been spared Oasis ;)
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Micke.K on March 31, 2005, 18:11:16 pm
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I guess we would have been spared Oasis ;)

lol lol lol
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: JonL on April 01, 2005, 00:15:14 am
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7. White Album (Some great songs/Some NOT!)


McCartney came out with a funny remark about the White Album. he remarked about people saying that it would make a great single album, etc. His reply was "It's The Beatles...It's the White Album, SHUT UP!"
Made me laugh anyway.
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Neillwith2Ls on April 01, 2005, 00:20:45 am
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McCartney came out with a funny remark about the White Album. he remarked about people saying that it would make a great single album, etc. His reply was "It's The Beatles...It's the White Album, SHUT UP!"
Made me laugh anyway.

I remember that quote, very cool, very funny :)

Everyone still has their own White Album tracklisting don't they. I wonder if anyone feature Revolution 9 :P
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: zoony on April 01, 2005, 00:29:38 am
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John Lennon wasn't on 8 December 1980.
Ooh! Thats a bit below the belt Ian  :-X.
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Analog RH on April 01, 2005, 01:14:33 am
Revolver, Abbey Road, Let In Be (Naked), The White Album. All landmark records and fundamentals in my ever increasing CD collection.

And that's from the perspective of someone who wasn't even born when they split up. I bet the shock and awe those albums instilled in the 60s was wonderful.
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Steve_Harrison on April 01, 2005, 02:31:38 am
Im sorry but I just dont get why the Beatles are so popular :-[ The Stones were a much better option (IMO,and im not even a Stones fan).I dont think Beatles material has weathered very well :o :-[ ,Its constantly a reminder of the 60`s, which were boring anyway. The 70s were the defining time for music (Again IMO)..Sorry to upset all the Beatles fans on here BUT I just dont like them .
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Pudders on April 01, 2005, 02:54:54 am
QuoteIm sorry but I just dont get why the Beatles are so popular :-[ The Stones were a much better option (IMO,and im not even a Stones fan).I dont think Beatles material has weathered very well :o :-[ ,Its constantly a reminder of the 60`s, which were boring anyway. The 70s were the defining time for music (Again IMO)..Sorry to upset all the Beatles fans on here BUT I just dont like them .

You're not going to get an argument out of me Steve - I keep banging on about musically taste being a very personal thing, no one has the right to tell me what I should like/dislike other than me. I love the Beatles, always have done, but have never 'got' the Stones...each to his own eh?
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Slim on April 01, 2005, 03:45:28 am
QuoteIts constantly a reminder of the 60`s, which were boring anyway. The 70s were the defining time for music (Again IMO)..Sorry to upset all the Beatles fans on here BUT I just dont like them .

Nobody's going to get upset because you don't like them, mate - the great majority of informed appreciators of music do. As for the '60s being boring - umm, OK ;)
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Bob on April 01, 2005, 05:03:01 am
My dad was in to them but my mum didn't really like them so never really heard much of their music - or so I thought.

Like Ash I know pretty much all of their stuff and it must of come from the radio. I bought No.1 their greatest hits and I own sergent pepper and I'm happy with that, Elenor Rigby, paperback writer and The Ballad of John and Yoko are by far my favorites.

As for the Stones, they were alright I only like a few of their songs and I find the rest pants, I know more Beatles stuff than I do Stones and I guess if I'd been old enough to appreciate their music then I would of most definatly sat in the Beatles camp.
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Ian Hills on April 01, 2005, 06:38:20 am
QuoteIm sorry but I just dont get why the Beatles are so popular :-[ The Stones were a much better option (IMO,and im not even a Stones fan).I dont think Beatles material has weathered very well :o :-[ ,Its constantly a reminder of the 60`s, which were boring anyway. The 70s were the defining time for music (Again IMO)..Sorry to upset all the Beatles fans on here BUT I just dont like them .
The Beatles music hasn't weathered well ???
However much you dislike them, you surely can't believe that statement to be true.
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: JonL on April 01, 2005, 21:52:29 pm
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I remember that quote, very cool, very funny :)

Everyone still has their own White Album tracklisting don't they. I wonder if anyone feature Revolution 9 :P

I've got the Grey Album, White Album beats with Jay Z's Black Album vox. Clever idea, and golly it works.
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Neillwith2Ls on April 02, 2005, 23:10:31 pm
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I've got the Grey Album, White Album beats with Jay Z's Black Album vox. Clever idea, and golly it works.

I was equally impressed with that too, must dig it out and rip it for my iPod :)
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Ian Hills on April 03, 2005, 02:39:18 am
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I've got the Grey Album, White Album beats with Jay Z's Black Album vox. Clever idea, and golly it works.
Perhaps The Beatles "white" album mixed with Metallica's "black" album would have made a good grey album...
...or perhaps not.
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Micke.K on April 04, 2005, 14:20:30 pm
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Perhaps The Beatles "white" album mixed with Metallica's "black" album would have made a good grey album...
...or perhaps not.

I remember this being discussed before....there are some really funny mp3's with "Beatles-songs with a Metallica twist".....can be downloaded here:

http://music.metafilter.com/index.php?q=f&f=%2FBeatallica
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Ian Hills on April 05, 2005, 04:10:51 am
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I remember this being discussed before....there are some really funny mp3's with "Beatles-songs with a Metallica twist".....can be downloaded here:

http://music.metafilter.com/index.php?q=f&f=%2FBeatallica
lmao lmao lmao
Quality!!!
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: TomC on April 06, 2005, 17:54:42 pm
Sorry to mention Classic Rock again, but the current copy has 100 reasons why the Beatles are overrated on it's inside back page. Hysterically funny!

I found little of value in the constituent parts of the beatles after they split, with the exception of the first 2 -3 Wings albums. So their value to music is based purely on their output as a band.

Early to mid 60's the Stones were the band that your parents hated, whilst the Beatles were portrayed as good, home lovin, innocents (yes we all know that to be nonsense, but still). The Stones were real rock n roll, the Kinks wrote better songs and Bill Haley et al actually changed music before the Beatles.
The amount of rubbish they produced is always ignored or called "genius" or "before it's time". MMT is indulgence - first concept album, first vanity project. The White Album is actually unlistenable. The dreamy hippy drug stuff is better done by the REAL hippies and many of the lyrics are twee and embarrasing.

However, I cannot deny they way that they tapped into the psyche of a generation, in the same way that the Sex Pistols, Nirvana and Oasis also did in later decades. Despite their limitations, they came to define everything about the decade and have been credited, very unfairly, with being responsible for the huge societal change of the time.
They did write some great songs - Let it Be and Help being my favourites - but Lennon was no philosopher and they had very little to say other than in the hopes and desires place on them by an angry and disollusioned generation.
70's rock rules!!!
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Slim on April 06, 2005, 19:37:20 pm
QuoteEarly to mid 60's the Stones were the band that your parents hated, whilst the Beatles were portrayed as good, home lovin, innocents (yes we all know that to be nonsense, but still). The Stones were real rock n roll, the Kinks wrote better songs and Bill Haley et al actually changed music before the Beatles.
Well, Ray Davies wrote some fantastic songs, of course. But better than Lennon, McCartney, or even Harrison at their best? No. And no-one's claiming that they were the only individuals ever to change music; nonetheless the influence they brought to bear in the '60s was dramatic - off the scale.

QuoteThe amount of rubbish they produced is always ignored or called "genius" or "before it's time". MMT is indulgence - first concept album, first vanity project. The White Album is actually unlistenable. The dreamy hippy drug stuff is better done by the REAL hippies and many of the lyrics are twee and embarrasing.
Hmm - a great many people find the 'white' album very listenable indeed! It's not one of my favourites, but it's a long way from unlistenable.

QuoteHowever, I cannot deny they way that they tapped into the psyche of a generation, in the same way that the Sex Pistols, Nirvana and Oasis also did in later decades. Despite their limitations, they came to define everything about the decade and have been credited, very unfairly, with being responsible for the huge societal change of the time.
Why do you think it's "very unfair"? I don't think they were solely responsible for the cultural and societal change of the '60s, but I think they played a massive, critical part - as I observe in my first post in this thread, they were at the very epicentre of the global cultural explosion which occurred in that decade, and more than any other cultural component, they more or less define it.

Quote70's rock rules!!!
Well, that says it all really lol Without the Beatles, '70s rock would be unrecognisable as we know it today, if it even existed.

Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: captainkurtz on April 06, 2005, 19:58:34 pm
The White Album 'Unlistenable'?  Are you mad?  ???
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Micke.K on April 06, 2005, 20:04:50 pm
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Well, that says it all really lol Without the Beatles, '70s rock would be unrecognisable as we know it today, if it even existed.


What the man said... :)
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Analog RH on April 06, 2005, 20:08:09 pm
QuoteThe White Album is actually unlistenable.

You're quite wrong there. I'm listening to it right now actually.
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Micke.K on April 06, 2005, 20:38:39 pm
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You're quite wrong there. I'm listening to it right now actually.

yeah....but you're doing drugs, mate... ;) ;D ;D

 :-X

(I actually like "the white album" a lot myself.....even without drugs...loads of great songs on that one....and a couple of real mingers too...."Revolution 9", anyone..?) ;D
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Slim on April 06, 2005, 21:01:48 pm
Actually I really like Revolution 9. It's not a piece of music, but it is a rather captivating sound collage .. it has a really profound cinematic effect, for me anyway - it paints fascinating mental images.

It does sound out of place on there, though, granted. It doesn't do anything for the album as a whole.
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Micke.K on April 06, 2005, 21:12:58 pm
QuoteActually I really like Revolution 9. It's not a piece of music, but it is a rather captivating sound collage .. it has a really profound cinematic effect, for me anyway - it paints fascinating mental images.

It does sound out of place on there, though, granted. It doesn't do anything for the album as a whole.

Well, I can't say I like it... :-/

"Revolution" (without the 9 ::)) on the other hand, is a very nice song. I like the slow "White Album"-version better than the rockier version....
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Thailand Express on April 07, 2005, 00:00:40 am
I love the White Album in all its jumbled up glory. I've never been one of those to say that it should have been only a single album, but, if it was it most certainly would have been a killer.
The question is what would you leave of it to cut it down to the then maximum running time of around 45 minutes?
It goes without saying that Revolution 9 would be first for the chop, and after that Honey Pie / Wild Honey Pie, Don't Pass Me By, Bungalow Bill would be teetering on the precipice.
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Slim on April 07, 2005, 00:16:24 am
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The question is what would you leave of it to cut it down to the then maximum running time of around 45 minutes?
A good question, and one that's in discussion here (http://beatles.dyndns.org/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=beatles_albums;action=display;num=1112286357)
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Pudders on April 07, 2005, 00:47:40 am
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A good question, and one that's in discussion here (http://beatles.dyndns.org/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=beatles_albums;action=display;num=1112286357)

..and I'd love to participate bit I still can't stay logged in >:(
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Sary on April 07, 2005, 01:55:05 am
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..and I'd love to participate bit I still can't stay logged in >:(

Oh, what a shame, Neil, I hope our dear Admin is able to rectify that asap. :) Unless the problem lies in your end, of course... :-/
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Pudders on April 07, 2005, 04:13:09 am
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Oh, what a shame, Neil, I hope our dear Admin is able to rectify that asap. :) Unless the problem lies in your end, of course... :-/

I'm pretty sure i don't have any problems 'in my end' Sary  ;D ;)

Seriously - it's bloody frustrating. As I've said to Slim, i can stay logged in on the laptop - I'd just prefer to be using my main pc
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Slim on April 07, 2005, 04:21:54 am
Try deleting all your beatles.dyndns.org cookies, Neil. Sorry you've been having problems over there. If all else fails I can delete your account and set up a new one if you'd like to perserve with it, your participation would certainly be very welcome.
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Ian Hills on April 07, 2005, 04:56:13 am
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..and I'd love to participate bit I still can't stay logged in >:(
Same here!
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Pudders on April 07, 2005, 06:01:21 am
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Same here!

Ahhh!!!!! The plot thickens!
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Slim on April 07, 2005, 07:35:02 am
I've PMed Ian, as well.
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: andyhaines on April 21, 2005, 04:47:32 am
Apparently, Macca is touring the States from September 16th. No news of European dates so far.

New album due as well.
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Micke.K on April 21, 2005, 13:45:29 pm
QuoteApparently, Macca is touring the States from September 16th. No news of European dates so far.

New album due as well.

Yeah....I read that too on his homepage...

I hope he'll be touring Europe too. I saw him on the "Off The Ground"-tour, and it would be nice to see a show again....who knows, it may well be his last tour.... :-/
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Thenop on July 05, 2005, 01:13:48 am
Kicking some life into this ;D They are alive today as ever I suppose. AT least to me. The opening at Live8 prompted me to dig out an old tape I had from Sgt. peppers. Must go and pick the album really.
Which brings me to this, I know there are US and UK releases of almost all albums until 1967. Quesiton is, how does one go about to get the most important stuff without buying all those dreadful US releases. And what's the deal with the mono stereo issue (not really stereo of course, just a trickery to fool people into believing they are listening to a stereo recording, clever lads..).
And, what would would be the best compilation to get (assuming I need one). I am not specifically looking for a 1 type of album, more a career overview. I am more of an album person myself, so I suppose just gradually (yeah right, if I know myself I will soon be swimming in the catalogue) purchasing the backcatalogue.
Oh yeah, the Anthology 3some. Are these interesting, or are they  just for more than casual listeners?

Oh well, for now kicking back and....Lucy in the Sky with diamonds playing in the foreground (needs to be played loud for the proper result)
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Micke.K on July 05, 2005, 03:39:12 am
QuoteOh yeah, the Anthology 3some. Are these interesting, or are they  just for more than casual listeners?

I have all 3 Anthology-albums, and I think they're well worth having...

There are some really nice versions of previously released songs, aswell as some unreleased stuff, and also some Live recordings.....I especially like the live recordings on "Anthology I"....very good sound, lots of energy....(and it's recorded in Sweden... ;) ;D)

I'm glad I bought them... :)
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Pudders on July 05, 2005, 03:44:57 am
Quote

I have all 3 Anthology-albums, and I think they're well worth having...

There are some really nice versions of previously released songs, aswell as some unreleased stuff, and also some Live recordings.....I especially like the live recordings on "Anthology I"....very good sound, lots of energy....(and it's recorded in Sweden... ;) ;D)

I'm glad I bought them... :)

I have all 3 as well and think they are well worth having...but they're not exactly kick back and listen to the music type albums are they?

The 'Red' and 'Blue' albums remain my favourite compilations, (though i never got them on cd!), but I'm slowly re-equipping myself with the back catalogue on cd and i think thats the only way to go really.
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Micke.K on July 05, 2005, 03:55:05 am
Quote

I have all 3 as well and think they are well worth having...but they're not exactly kick back and listen to the music type albums are they?
No....they're not "party-CD's" exactly.... :-/

A bit too patchy for that....and some songs reappear in different versions....so I guess they are albums you listen to on your own.... :) :)

But then again.....that's how I listen to most of my CD's ;D
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Pudders on July 05, 2005, 04:31:14 am
Quote
No....they're not "party-CD's" exactly.... :-/

A bit too patchy for that....and some songs reappear in different versions....so I guess they are albums you listen to on your own.... :) :)

But then again.....that's how I listen to most of my CD's ;D

 lol There are some fantastic versions on there though - the acoustic While My Guitar is stunning...come to think of it theres also a stripped down version of All Things Must Pass as well isn't there?
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Ian Hills on July 05, 2005, 05:38:27 am
It's worth buying the whole back catalogue of Beatles albums, the UK albums were released worlwide on Cd, so even in America you get the UK versions on Cd, it's also worth getting the Past Masters Vols. 1 & 2 Cd's which contain all the singles and b-sides (and EP's) that are not on albums, also contains Bad Boy, which was originally only released in the USA. Once you have all these then you would need to add the Anthology and Live At The BBC cd's.
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Thenop on July 05, 2005, 11:56:44 am
Thanks guys. This means my wife will be right then....I casually mentioned yesterday I might be developing an interest in the the Beatles and then she frowned, sighed and then spoke "Oh God, now were gonna have 2 shelves of Beatles cd's...". (I am the one in the back holding the guilty sign). ;D
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Ian Hills on July 21, 2005, 03:36:53 am
Roll up for the mystery tour...
For those who have been missing the "Dig It" website, it is now back up and running. So all you Beatles fans can now re-register and debate on the fab-four with Slim and friends...
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Pudders on July 21, 2005, 03:47:41 am
QuoteRoll up for the mystery tour...
For those who have been missing the "Dig It" website, it is now back up and running. So all you Beatles fans can now re-register and debate on the fab-four with Slim and friends...

...but will i be able to stay logged on this time :-/
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: TerrBerr on July 21, 2005, 04:04:13 am
QuoteRoll up for the mystery tour...
For those who have been missing the "Dig It" website, it is now back up and running. So all you Beatles fans can now re-register and debate on the fab-four with Slim and friends...

Do we have to re-register? Why?   ???
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Ian Hills on July 21, 2005, 05:03:00 am
Quote

Do we have to re-register? Why?
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Ian Hills on July 21, 2005, 05:03:59 am
Quote

...but will i be able to stay logged on this time :-/
That problem seems to be sorted out now.
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Pudders on July 21, 2005, 05:11:42 am
Quote
That problem seems to be sorted out now.

Yes it does! Brilliant! ;D

...no it isn't :-/ Feck it!
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Ian Hills on July 26, 2005, 04:20:42 am
Quote

Yes it does! Brilliant! ;D

...no it isn't :-/ Feck it!
Are you still having trouble staying logged in?
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Pudders on July 26, 2005, 05:15:27 am
Quote
Are you still having trouble staying logged in?

Yeah....it's weird, was fine when I first went into the new site. Next day, back to the same old problem :-/ Have no problems on the laptop, but I don't have it rigged up to the network too often...anyway should be able to work off the main machine, but doesn't! Must be a firewall problem but whats the difference between tnms and Dig It? Same software isn't it?
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Slim on July 26, 2005, 05:23:29 am
Roughly, yes. Actually the new Dig It! (http://beatles.dyndns.org) runs on YaBB2, whereas the old one was YaBB SP 1.4. TNMS is YaBB SP 1.3.1.

It's got to be a firewall issue of some kind .. there's no inherent reason why your laptop and desktop PC should necessarily behave differently.
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Pudders on July 26, 2005, 06:16:25 am
QuoteRoughly, yes. Actually the new Dig It! (http://beatles.dyndns.org) runs on YaBB2, whereas the old one was YaBB SP 1.4. TNMS is YaBB SP 1.3.1.

It's got to be a firewall issue of some kind .. there's no inherent reason why your laptop and desktop PC should necessarily behave differently.

Absolutely agree with you James - it's driving me nuts....well you knew that! I'll have another go at reconfiguring the Firewall....
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Slim on July 26, 2005, 06:54:59 am
Something to do with cookies, Neil - I suspect it doesn't like Dig It! (http://beatles.dyndns.org)'s cookies for some reason. You might have to explicitly enable them. It could be a browser setting as well .. anyway I will see what I can dig up. I was hoping this would go away with YaBB2, I must admit. Sorry to see you've had a problem.
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Pudders on July 26, 2005, 14:31:34 pm
QuoteSomething to do with cookies, Neil - I suspect it doesn't like Dig It! (http://beatles.dyndns.org)'s cookies for some reason. You might have to explicitly enable them. It could be a browser setting as well .. anyway I will see what I can dig up. I was hoping this would go away with YaBB2, I must admit. Sorry to see you've had a problem.

It'll be my fault Slim - it usually is ;D. As I say I'll ahev another fiddle later. ;)
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Neillwith2Ls on November 07, 2006, 15:17:32 pm
B-b-bump :)

(http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/P/B000JK8OYU.01._AA240_SCLZZZZZZZ_V38610261_.jpg)

'Brand new' Beatles album out on November 20th ;D

QuoteAlthough originally meant as a set of re-mixes for a show with Cirque Du Soleil, producers George and Giles Martin have succeeded in creating a new Beatles record outright.

The idea came from George Harrison himself two years ago and involves the re-mixing and re-mastering of the Beatles' recorded performances from the back catalogue.

Featuring a re-united Beatles line-up and showcasing 78 minutes of new material Sir Paul McCartney can be rightly justified in saying, "This album puts the Beatles back together again."


Hmm.. I thought George died in 2001 :-/ I think that quote is a few years old itself..

Can't wait for this, I've heard some snippets and it sounds great. Essentially,
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Bez on November 07, 2006, 15:48:33 pm
it got good reviews in Q as well Neilllll, I'm undecided at the moment, but will probably end up butying it, maybe a good one for the christmas list... ;)
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Neillwith2Ls on November 07, 2006, 16:38:56 pm
Quotemaybe a good one for the christmas list... ;)


Is where I've added my copy; I can wait a month, it's not like I haven't heard it before ;)
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Slim on November 08, 2006, 13:13:23 pm
I don't know. It seems faintly sacriligeous.
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Neillwith2Ls on November 09, 2006, 18:22:09 pm
QuoteI don't know. It seems faintly sacriligeous.


:D

I know where you're coming from (Derby innit?), but I think it's a great idea, and can't wait to hear it. I've heard some genuis mash-ups in the past, admittedly not the same band, but two unrelated tracks melded together. My favourite was Beyonce's Crazy In Love wailing over Led Zep's Moby Dick riff ;D
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Slim on November 10, 2006, 00:53:19 am
I'm listening to the Anthology version of While My Guitar Gently Weeps, with orchestral backing, on Mark Radcliffe's show.

Weird, really. The Anthology WMGGW is so clearly unfinished, that the lush orchestral backing afforded to it nearly 4 decades later sounds really incongruous. I don't like it.
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Pudders on November 10, 2006, 01:05:35 am
QuoteI'm listening to the Anthology version of While My Guitar Gently Weeps, with orchestral backing, on Mark Radcliffe's show.

Weird, really. The Anthology WMGGW is so clearly unfinished, that the lush orchestral backing afforded to it nearly 4 decades later sounds really incongruous. I don't like it.


Is that the acoustic Harrison demo? That's such a beautiful, bare, piece that adding anything to it seems wrong to me :-/
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Slim on November 10, 2006, 01:33:20 am
Yes, that's the one. I must admit it's mainly of historical interest to me - it really sounds wimpy, and Harrison hasn't quite finished writing it. In that context the orchestral backing sounds ridiculous.
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Pudders on November 10, 2006, 09:08:59 am
QuoteYes, that's the one. I must admit it's mainly of historical interest to me - it really sounds wimpy, and Harrison hasn't quite finished writing it. In that context the orchestral backing sounds ridiculous.


Well, I really like the wimpiness of it! ;D ;)
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Neillwith2Ls on November 10, 2006, 09:33:01 am
That acoustic demo is fantastic isn't it (Anthology III ?), and is in a different key too I think; lovely. I agree that fiddling with unfinished stuff, and orchestrating unnecessarily can destroy something so easily.

What I'm looking forward to is hearing well-known Beatles tracks mixed up together; the one that intrigues me is Being For The Benfit of Mr. Kite being spliced with I Want You/She's So Heavy; MOJO describe it thus:

...and, best of all, Being For The Benefit of Mr. Kite turned into a psychotic episode by introducing the mighty churning coda of I Want You/She's So Heavy

I'm all for fiddling with stuff; look what Paul achieved with some remastering, and lifting off of Phil Spector's orchestration for Let It Be... Naked.

It could of course just sound like an awful Stars on 45 nightmare, but I'm doubtful something that teribble would have been allowed to have slipped through the Apple net :)
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Micke.K on November 10, 2006, 10:24:57 am
QuoteThat acoustic demo is fantastic isn't it (Anthology III ?)


Yes, I like it too...

Got to get you into my life is also great on Anthology III 8-)
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Slim on November 10, 2006, 13:00:09 pm
QuoteI'm all for fiddling with stuff; look what Paul achieved with some remastering, and lifting off of Phil Spector's orchestration for Let It Be... Naked.


You make my point very well, Neill! :D

Spector did exactly what Martin and Son have done to the demo for While My Guitar.. - he slapped lush orchestration where the artist had never intended it, onto The Long And Winding Road in particular. The reason the 'naked' version sounds better is because McCartney restored it.

I'll still be buying it though, because I Want You grafted onto Mr Kite sounds trippy.
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Slim on November 10, 2006, 13:01:39 pm
QuoteGot to get you into my life is also great on Anthology III 8-)


Oh yes! I actually prefer that to the original. I remember being in the Virgin Megastore in Oxford St the day it was released and hearing it on the in-store 'radio' programme. I was gobsmacked to hear Lennon's harmonies on there. Amazing.
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Pudders on November 10, 2006, 13:30:15 pm
Quote

Oh yes! I actually prefer that to the original. I remember being in the Virgin Megastore in Oxford St the day it was released and hearing it on the in-store 'radio' programme. I was gobsmacked to hear Lennon's harmonies on there. Amazing.


What's your view - and everyone else's for that matter - on the Anthology collection as a whole? I think it's a great to be able to have so many alternate takes, demo's, unreleased efforts and all that but, it's not very easy to listen to if you understand me? I hardly ever play the Anthology discs because I don't think they work in that respect. I really ought to spend some time coming up with 1 or 2 cds worth of stuff off the original 6 cds, something you can put on and not have to concentrate too much on.

Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Bez on November 10, 2006, 15:28:07 pm
Quote

What's your view - and everyone else's for that matter - on the Anthology collection as a whole? I think it's a great to be able to have so many alternate takes, demo's, unreleased efforts and all that but, it's not very easy to listen to if you understand me? I hardly ever play the Anthology discs because I don't think they work in that respect. I really ought to spend some time coming up with 1 or 2 cds worth of stuff off the original 6 cds, something you can put on and not have to concentrate too much on.



I never bought them because they cost too much at the time....I've heard bits and pieces over the years and some of it has sounded good. You're right a "Best of Anthology" would be good...
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: andyhaines on November 10, 2006, 15:32:52 pm
Quote

What's your view - and everyone else's for that matter - on the Anthology collection as a whole? I think it's a great to be able to have so many alternate takes, demo's, unreleased efforts and all that but, it's not very easy to listen to if you understand me? I hardly ever play the Anthology discs because I don't think they work in that respect. I really ought to spend some time coming up with 1 or 2 cds worth of stuff off the original 6 cds, something you can put on and not have to concentrate too much on.

I don't have The Beatles Anthology, but I do have the Lennon Anthology box set, and my feelings towards this are similar Neil. I rarely play it, but it does have some cracking stuff on there...just can't be bothered wadind through the mediocre stuff.
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Micke.K on November 10, 2006, 15:57:56 pm
Quote

What's your view - and everyone else's for that matter - on the Anthology collection as a whole? I think it's a great to be able to have so many alternate takes, demo's, unreleased efforts and all that but, it's not very easy to listen to if you understand me? I hardly ever play the Anthology discs because I don't think they work in that respect. I really ought to spend some time coming up with 1 or 2 cds worth of stuff off the original 6 cds, something you can put on and not have to concentrate too much on.



I have all 3 Anthology albums. I like no. 1 & 3 best...they're quite good, imo. A bit patchy, of course....

The live recordings on Anthology I, from Swedish Radio are great...I love the guitar sound....especially on Money 8-)

I also have Live At the BBC, and some of the stuff there is very good too. Gives you an idea of what early Beatles sounded like on stage 8-)
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Slim on November 10, 2006, 18:15:33 pm
Quote

What's your view - and everyone else's for that matter - on the Anthology collection as a whole? I think it's a great to be able to have so many alternate takes, demo's, unreleased efforts and all that but, it's not very easy to listen to if you understand me? I hardly ever play the Anthology discs because I don't think they work in that respect.

Absolutely agree, Neil. I quite like to play them from time to time, but not when I'm "concentrating". Usually if I'm doing ironing or hoovering the stairs, or polishing the bathroom floor or some mundane task around the house. I like Anthology III most of all, never bought Anthology I.

Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Neillwith2Ls on November 10, 2006, 20:37:51 pm
I haven't played the Anthology serie in years either, but I remember going through them with a fine tooth-comb when they were individually released.

They don't make easy listening, and a "Best Of" is an interesting idea; I wonder what tracks would make people's lists, would it become a hot a topic as "what's your White Album?"

Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Neillwith2Ls on November 10, 2006, 20:40:43 pm
Quote

You make my point very well, Neill! :D

Spector did exactly what Martin and Son have done to the demo for While My Guitar.. - he slapped lush orchestration where the artist had never intended it, onto The Long And Winding Road in particular. The reason the 'naked' version sounds better is because McCartney restored it.

I'll still be buying it though, because I Want You grafted onto Mr Kite sounds trippy.


Yeah... I just realised that ::) :D

What I was trying to say was that I'm all for letting the originals be tampered with; I've never been one for the "don't touch it, that's sacrilige" view.

I'm sure some previews will pop up online sometime soon, I can't wait to hear some :)
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Analog RH on November 11, 2006, 09:47:57 am
QuoteThey don't make easy listening, and a "Best Of" is an interesting idea; I wonder what tracks would make people's lists, would it become a hot a topic as "what's your White Album?"



Especially tough if you're allowed one CD. ;)

The Beatles - An ARH Compilation

1. I Saw Her Standing There
2. Rock And Roll Music
3. Drive My Car
4. Taxman
5. Tomorrow Never Knows
6. Sgt Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band
7. Back In The USSR
8. Birthday
9. Yer Blues
10. Helter Skelter
11. Come Together
12. I Want You (She's So Heavy)
13. Get Back
14. Let It Be
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Neillwith2Ls on November 11, 2006, 11:36:03 am
Is this just a Beatles comp, or an Anthology comp. Andy? If we're talking just a Beatles comp. then... I'd have to sit down for a very long time... :-/
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Micke.K on November 11, 2006, 11:57:42 am
QuoteIs this just a Beatles comp, or an Anthology comp. Andy? If we're talking just a Beatles comp. then... I'd have to sit down for a very long time... :-/

Yes, that's nearly impossible....especially if you're not allowed more than 14 tracks...

I could easily pick 50 songs I'd like to include on a Beatles compilation
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Bez on November 13, 2006, 10:42:54 am
Lets make it a Beatles compliation with a max 14 tracks then...the best things in life aren't always easy...

Mr Field has set a very high standard....
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Bez on November 13, 2006, 10:55:11 am
1. Twist and Shout
2. Eight Days a Week
3. I Feel Fine
4. You've Got To Hide Your love Away
5. Drive My Car
6. Good day Sunshine
7. Tomorrow Never Knows
8. Lucy in the Sky With Diamonds
9. A Day in the Life
10. While My Guitar gently Weeps
11. Revolution
12. Something
13. Because
14. Get Back
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Pudders on November 13, 2006, 11:20:40 am
I'll have a think - but I want to have a crack at the Anthology 'best of' as well, so may well concentrate on that for now.....
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Neillwith2Ls on November 13, 2006, 11:41:11 am
Oh blimey... I'll give it a crack at 14 Beatles tracks, but it feels like cheating on your missus by excluding others :-/

Oh well, here goes...

1. I Saw Her Standing There
2. A Hard Day's Night
3. Paperback Writer
4. And Your Bird Can Sing
5. Here, There & Everywhere
6. Tomorrow Never Knows
7. A Day In The Life
8. Back In The USSR
9. While My Guitar Gently Weeps
10. Revolution (single version)
11. Hey Bulldog
12. Don't Let Me Down
13. Get Back
14. Something


Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Neillwith2Ls on November 13, 2006, 11:41:55 am
Our latter-day Beatles tastes are very similar Bez! :P
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Bez on November 13, 2006, 11:53:19 am
QuoteOur latter-day Beatles tastes are very similar Bez! :P


Yep and most of your early ones were under consideration as well.... ::)

I would have guessed that we'd be quite similar, Pudders will prob be different  :D
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Micke.K on November 13, 2006, 13:27:39 pm
Here's my "best of":

1. Twist & Shout
2. You Can't Do That (the live version from Anthology I)
3. Drive My Car
4. Paperback Writer
5. Rain
6. And Your Bird Can Sing
7. Fixing A Hole
8. Strawbery Fields Forever
9. While My Guitar Gently Weeps
10. Something
11. Come Together
12. Hey Bulldog
13. Hey Jude
14. Get Back

Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Neillwith2Ls on November 13, 2006, 13:52:52 pm
QuoteHere's my "best of":

1. Twist & Shout
2. You Can't Do That (the live version from Anthology I)
3. Drive My Car
4. Paperback Writer
5. Rain
6. And Your Bird Can Sing
7. Fixing A Hole
8. Strawbery Fields Forever
9. While My Guitar Gently Weeps
10. Something
11. Come Together
12. Hey Bulldog
13. Hey Jude
14. Get Back



You Can't Do That and Rain, both great shouts :) Rain is one of Macca's best basslines.

Again, eerily similar suggestion to me and Bez too mate! ;D
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Chris Quartly on November 13, 2006, 14:14:46 pm
Surely you could get at least 20 Beatles tunes on an 80 minute CD :P
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Pudders on November 13, 2006, 14:23:22 pm
Ok, tried not to pay much attention to others lists - but I tried to make my life a little easier by selecting one song from each of the main albums - plus Magical Mystery Tour and the 'Hey Jude' import we all had back then ::)

1.   I Saw Her Standing There
2.   All My Loving
3.   Things We Said Today
4.   Eight Days A Week
5.   You've Got To Hide Your Love Away
6.   If I needed Someone
7.   Eleanor Rigby
8.   A Day In The Life
9.   Strawberry Fields Forever
10. While My Guitar Gently Weeps
11. Hey Bulldog
12. Come Together
13. Don't Let Me Down
14. Let It Be
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Neillwith2Ls on November 13, 2006, 15:03:45 pm
All My Loving, that's got one of George's alltime awesome solos; fantastic. Great shout for If I Needed Someone too 8-)
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Bez on November 13, 2006, 15:08:42 pm
QuoteSurely you could get at least 20 Beatles tunes on an 80 minute CD :P


probably more than that Q, I'm currently playing disc 1 on the 1962 - 66 compilation (The Red Album) and its 13 tracks clock in at around 31 minutes... ::)
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Micke.K on November 13, 2006, 16:01:10 pm
Quote

You Can't Do That and Rain, both great shouts :) Rain is one of Macca's best basslines.

You Can't Do That is a great song, imo...Very energetic, and I especially like the verses (I often do...I am a "verse-person"). Lennon sings it great! 8-)

The bassline makes Rain for me...It's great! I also like the "sweeping" way that Lennon sings it.... Paperback Writer/Rain must be one of the best singles ever released... 8-)


Quote
Again, eerily similar suggestion to me and Bez too mate! ;D


I noticed.. :)
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Pudders on November 13, 2006, 16:36:56 pm
QuoteAll My Loving, that's got one of George's alltime awesome solos; fantastic. Great shout for If I Needed Someone too 8-)


If I Needed Someone was first on the list - being tucked away on side two of Rubber Soul, I don't think the casual Beatles fan will be aware of it - vastly underrated.

Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Micke.K on November 13, 2006, 16:41:44 pm
Quote

If I Needed Someone was first on the list - being tucked away on side two of Rubber Soul, I don't think the casual Beatles fan will be aware of it - vastly underrated.



It's a very good song (on a very good album). I think Harrison has written a couple of others that are better though.... :)

Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Thenop on November 16, 2006, 19:19:12 pm
Okay,

the 'new' one is all over the usual places, so I am listening to it now. Have to say it is done with taste. It takes some getting used to. The music s great as ever and the tracks flow seamlessly in to each other...or do they? They are sort of 'mixed' together. Get Back has a crowd (clearly audible) and it's all mixed a bit less 'dry'. Or at least, my perception was always that the actual sounds on the album sounded pretty dry.
There are actually quite some effects (echoes and all) applied. And a lot of 'background' noises are being used as track transitions. 'Tis nice nice to hear the tracks in a different setting.
The tracks itself sound marvellous btw. I never found much use to remaster the Beatles back catalogue becasue they sound so great already, but I have to say this does adds at least some value in that respect.

ehm....althug it is cool to hear, it..wel like I said, takes some getting used to.....

I'm sure you'll like it though Neill...exactly what you expected I believe:-)

Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Neillwith2Ls on November 17, 2006, 09:19:30 am
Quote

If I Needed Someone was first on the list - being tucked away on side two of Rubber Soul, I don't think the casual Beatles fan will be aware of it - vastly underrated.



George was always my favourite Beatles, and I loved his songs. It was when I got the Concert For George live CD and DVD, where they played so many George tracks in a row, that I was floored by this track again.
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Neillwith2Ls on November 17, 2006, 09:21:22 am
QuoteOkay,

the 'new' one is all over the usual places, so I am listening to it now. Have to say it is done with taste. It takes some getting used to. The music s great as ever and the tracks flow seamlessly in to each other...or do they? They are sort of 'mixed' together. Get Back has a crowd (clearly audible) and it's all mixed a bit less 'dry'. Or at least, my perception was always that the actual sounds on the album sounded pretty dry.
There are actually quite some effects (echoes and all) applied. And a lot of 'background' noises are being used as track transitions. 'Tis nice nice to hear the tracks in a different setting.
The tracks itself sound marvellous btw. I never found much use to remaster the Beatles back catalogue becasue they sound so great already, but I have to say this does adds at least some value in that respect.

ehm....althug it is cool to hear, it..wel like I said, takes some getting used to.....

I'm sure you'll like it though Neill...exactly what you expected I believe:-)



Excellent stuff; looking forward to this, although I may have a bit of a wait (on the Christmas list!)

Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Pudders on November 17, 2006, 09:52:16 am
Quote

George was always my favourite Beatles, and I loved his songs. It was when I got the Concert For George live CD and DVD, where they played so many George tracks in a row, that I was floored by this track again.


Eric Clapton takes the lead vocals on that doesn't he? And loads of jangly guitars!!
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Neillwith2Ls on November 17, 2006, 13:14:06 pm
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Eric Clapton takes the lead vocals on that doesn't he? And loads of jangly guitars!!


Yep, he does indeed. Whilst the words "Eric Clapton" usually induce a sense of creeping fear that he'll fretw@nk over everything, and ruin a beautiful little song, he redeems himself very well indeed here. In fact his whole performance and general humble demeanor for that show was incredibly admirable I thought.
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Micke.K on November 17, 2006, 13:31:30 pm
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Yep, he does indeed. Whilst the words "Eric Clapton" usually induce a sense of creeping fear that he'll fretw@nk over everything, and ruin a beautiful little song, he redeems himself very well indeed here. In fact his whole performance and general humble demeanor for that show was incredibly admirable I thought.


I saw that show on TV here about 1,5 year ago, I think....It was an excellent show 8-)
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: snodes on November 18, 2006, 02:15:32 am
Heard a couple of the Love tracks on the radio this week - the "Beatles' mash up" idea is interesting if gimmicky. Overriding aim of this seems to be to finally hear what they would have sounded like with a decent drummer!
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Neillwith2Ls on November 18, 2006, 12:04:49 pm
QuoteHeard a couple of the Love tracks on the radio this week - the "Beatles' mash up" idea is interesting if gimmicky. Overriding aim of this seems to be to finally hear what they would have sounded like with a decent drummer!


Ringo is a decent drummer ::) :)

Anyway, I don't think any of the original drum tracks have been replaced; it's all Ringo on there. I'm sure I read an interview with Giles Martin saying nothing was added; it's just been mixed up.
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Thenop on November 18, 2006, 14:47:23 pm
It is all original material from the master tapes. There's one piece of orchestration that's new, written by Martin (sr.). The rest is mix 'n' mash. Favs. so far includes Within You, Withoout You over the bassline & beat of Tmoroorw Never Knows. Superb stuff, psychedlica extravaganza (as the missus said).
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Dave Brenchley on November 22, 2006, 17:29:05 pm
Has anyone tried the 5.1 version of this Love jobby on a surround system? If so, is it any good? The surround mix would be my main reason for getting this.
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Thenop on November 22, 2006, 18:31:54 pm
QuoteHas anyone tried the 5.1 version of this Love jobby on a surround system? If so, is it any good? The surround mix would be my main reason for getting this.



Not heard it, but seeing this was developed for a theatre setting in the first place, it should be good I suppose.
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Ian Hills on November 22, 2006, 23:26:43 pm
stick to the originals...
...if it's not brokrn don't try to fix it.
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Neillwith2Ls on November 23, 2006, 20:41:05 pm
They weren't trying to 'fix' anything. Except maybe a hole :D
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Micke.K on November 23, 2006, 20:53:27 pm
QuoteThey weren't trying to 'fix' anything. Except maybe a hole :D


;D ;D

Stops your mind from wandering, eh... ::)
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Ian Hills on November 24, 2006, 18:50:47 pm
There's 4000 holes in Blackburn, Lancashire!
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Micke.K on November 24, 2006, 19:50:15 pm
How about this then:

Henry The Horse dances the waltz!
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Bez on November 25, 2006, 10:38:24 am
QuoteHas anyone tried the 5.1 version of this Love jobby on a surround system? If so, is it any good? The surround mix would be my main reason for getting this.


not yet Dave, I have it, buts its gone in the christmas pressie box.... >:(
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: kith on January 03, 2007, 12:52:50 pm
Absolutely love the new album and it's not a shameful mess like I thought it was going to be. It's certainly miles better than the Let It Be : Naked album that's for sure.
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: captainkurtz on January 03, 2007, 13:13:29 pm
Well obviously the material is great on 'Love', but really, its not anything that any remix artist couldn't have done in his (or her) sleep.

Must hear the 5.1 version though.....
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: JonL on January 03, 2007, 13:25:35 pm
I only got the bog standard version for Christmas, not that I'm complaining though.
The wife felt quite guilty when I explained what the "expensive" version was.

Personally, I love it, and it's clear there's a lot of of love (no pun intended) put into it. It sounds so unbelievably "fresh".

Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Presto-digitation on January 03, 2007, 13:55:39 pm
Not sold on the notion of this, though admitedly I've not heard anything but good about it.  I need to check it out.
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: JonL on January 03, 2007, 13:58:25 pm
If you're a purinst, you possibly won't be into it.

If you're into checking out the music played in a slightly different form, you will like it.

My fave is I am the walrus.
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Thailand Express on January 07, 2007, 20:31:53 pm
Got the DVDA version for Christmas and have to say a lot of it is pretty mindblowing!
The way Mr Kite morphs into She's So Heavy / Helter Skelter sounds like the apocalypse!

Pity I didn't visit Vegas a few months later, I could've seen the show  :(
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Neillwith2Ls on January 11, 2007, 22:01:55 pm
Love the new album, it sounds like it was recorded Yesterday too.

Seriously, I think it's fantastic; favourite track is Tomorrow Never Knows/Within You Without You; turn that up LOUD!

I got the DVDA edition for Christmas too, but haven't got the gear to play it on! The theory is I will someday!
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Neillwith2Ls on February 05, 2007, 18:19:43 pm
Seems like Apple and, er.. Apple have finally sorted out their differences in the courtroom, meaning the Beatles catalogue will be available on iTunes soon. Cue a very interesting Top 40 sometime soon ;)

http://www.nme.com/news/the-beatles/26251
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: andyhaines on January 27, 2008, 15:53:12 pm
Been playing All Things Must Pass a lot lately. I know Lennon & McCartney rightly get most of the attention from the public and press, but I reckon ATMP is the best solo album by a Beatle...


(although I haven't heard Ringo's new album yet ::))
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: andyhaines on January 27, 2008, 15:55:21 pm
BTW, has Dig It ceased to be James?
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: JonL on January 27, 2008, 16:10:08 pm
QuoteBeen playing All Things Must Pass a lot lately. I know Lennon & McCartney rightly get most of the attention from the public and press, but I reckon ATMP is the best solo album by a Beatle...


(although I haven't heard Ringo's new album yet ::))


When Harrison's songs got more time on record, he showed that he could match the other 2 easily.
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Thenop on January 27, 2008, 16:12:04 pm
Lenoon & McCartney were more prolific though. George seemed to save up his good stuff (bar While My Guitar...) for ATMP.
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Pudders on January 27, 2008, 17:22:16 pm
QuoteBeen playing All Things Must Pass a lot lately. I know Lennon & McCartney rightly get most of the attention from the public and press, but I reckon ATMP is the best solo album by a Beatle...


(although I haven't heard Ringo's new album yet ::))


Oh, by a country mile Andy - wonderful album. It was only listening to the 'Concert for George' Cd and seeing the DVD that made me go back and check out an album that I'd not really  given much time to before....... so glad I did :)

Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Neillwith2Ls on January 27, 2008, 18:00:43 pm
Quote...but I reckon ATMP is the best solo album by a Beatle...


That, sir, is correct :)

To be fair George was at the peak of his powers just after the Beatles split, and Paul and John had had their prolific streak by then.

Love this album though, the remaster that came out after he died sounds absolutely delicious :P
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Presto-digitation on January 27, 2008, 23:37:37 pm
I'll add my two cents about the Beatles:
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Slim on January 28, 2008, 21:10:57 pm
QuoteBTW, has Dig It ceased to be James?


Hiya Andy,

Yes it has, mate. All my attempts at messageboards go tits up after a couple of months, for some reason; maybe lack of promotion, I don't know.

If you fancy starting a Dylan / Neil Young / whatever messageboard on my server, you're welcome.
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: andyhaines on January 28, 2008, 21:40:23 pm
Quote

If you fancy starting a Dylan / Neil Young / whatever messageboard on my server, you're welcome.


feck no!

Have you ever tried having conversations with Dylan obsessives? Biggest bunch of anally retentive, pseudo-intellectual anoraks you could ever wish to meet. ;) ;D

Thanks for the offer though mate. :)


Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Neillwith2Ls on February 06, 2008, 09:16:36 am
Just read about the Mararishi Yogi dying yesterday :-/

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/7229597.stm

Think I'll spin Sexy Sadie now, as a little tribute :)
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: andyhaines on February 10, 2008, 21:53:42 pm
QuoteI'll add my two cents about the Beatles:
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: andyhaines on February 10, 2008, 22:06:12 pm
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Dylan is arguably the greatest individual songwriter of the Rock era...he is, unquestionably, the greatest lyricist of the 20th and 21st Centuries.
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: JonL on February 10, 2008, 22:19:53 pm
Quote

feck no!

Have you ever tried having conversations with Dylan obsessives? Biggest bunch of anally retentive, pseudo-intellectual anoraks you could ever wish to meet. ;) ;D

Thanks for the offer though mate. :)




Many would replace the word "Dylan" with "Rush".

Between my neighbour and me, we've got both bases covered.
When we start talking about music, the wife ducks for cover.
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Pudders on March 24, 2008, 17:42:32 pm
Neil Aspinall has passed away.....

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_depth/7311581.stm
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: andyhaines on March 24, 2008, 18:54:52 pm
QuoteNeil Aspinall has passed away.....

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_depth/7311581.stm

Sad to read that Neil. Only a year older than McCartney... :(
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Neillwith2Ls on March 25, 2008, 09:02:01 am
Sad news indeed, they're all gradually disappearing.. :(
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Pudders on March 28, 2008, 11:12:13 am
QuoteSad news indeed, they're all gradually disappearing.. :(


Actually, another one went a few weeks ago. I meant to mention it after it was picked up on the BJH forum but forgot ::) Good summary of  Norman Smiths (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norman_Smith_%28record_producer%29) career at Wiki.....

Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: andyhaines on April 13, 2008, 10:41:58 am
Macca looks like touring the UK later this year:

According to reports, Paul McCartney is considering launching a world tour. The Beatles star is said to be going on the tour as a way to celebrate his recent divorce from Heather Mills.
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Neillwith2Ls on April 13, 2008, 15:24:29 pm
Cool, O2 Arena I guess for a London show, if it's autumn.

I wish he'd pick some better tracks to play live though. I know the popular Beatles tracks will ALWAYS go down well live, but Macca's got such a rich back catalogue of great stuff that rarely gets an airing on these monster tours.
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Fuzzface on October 08, 2008, 00:28:08 am
*Bump* ;D
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Slim on November 16, 2008, 21:35:37 pm
Oh my ..

The apocryphal Lost Beatles Track is REAL

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7732546.stm

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Sir Paul McCartney has confirmed a 14-minute long Beatles track many thought was a myth does exist - and says he wants the public to hear it.

He told BBC Radio 4's Front Row the track - called Carnival of Light - was not released because the other Beatles thought it was too "adventurous".

The improvised track was recorded in 1967 for an electronic music festival.

Sir Paul said Ringo Starr and the estates of John Lennon and George Harrison would have agree to a release.

He said he had been asked to create the piece for an electronic music festival, and asked the other band members to be "indulgent" for 10 minutes at London's Abbey Road studios before giving them vague directions.


Musical event of the century so far if it sees the light of day.
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Analog RH on November 16, 2008, 23:10:17 pm
Quote from: Slim on November 16, 2008, 21:35:37 pm
Musical event of the century so far if it sees the light of day.


Sir Paul explained: "I said all I want you to do is just wander around all the stuff, bang it, shout, play it, it doesn't need to make any sense. Hit a drum then wander on to the piano, hit a few notes, just wander around.

"So that's what we did and then put a bit of an echo on it. It's very free."

The track was played just once, at the festival, and is said to include distorted guitar, organ sounds, gargling and band members shouting phrases such as "Barcelona!" and "Are you all right?"




Oh yeah.... can't wait to hear that one.....  ::)
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Slim on November 17, 2008, 08:35:15 am
Yes, a priceless artefact - and a precious document of its time. Of course they were no Kings X ::)
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Jonners on November 17, 2008, 10:04:44 am
Beatles or no Beatles it sounds potentially shit!

Even "great " bands are allowed a stinker every now and again, so I think musical event of teh century is probably going a little too far

That one has to be reserved for Saxon trying to break the air guitar record on telly a while back
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Fishy on November 17, 2008, 12:13:08 pm
just reading up about this..sounds very interesting...
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: andyhaines on November 17, 2008, 20:21:03 pm
hope you enjoy our new direction....on the bass: Paul, he wrote this...
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Fishy on November 17, 2008, 21:14:42 pm
sounds like a cosy 14 minutes....
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Neillwith2Ls on November 17, 2008, 22:32:20 pm
This has been talked about for a long while hasn't it? It's certainly a very familiar story to me, didn't Macca use parts of it in a 'sound collage' project he did with The Super Furry Animals a few years ago?

It sounds like it's going to be unlistenable, but you never know. Thing is, if the rest of the band veto'd it, but thought Revolution No.9 was OK to release on the White Album a year later in 1968, what does that say about Carnival Of Light?! :D
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Tom Garrett on November 17, 2008, 22:38:47 pm
Quote from: thefishy on November 17, 2008, 21:14:42 pm
sounds like a cosy 14 minutes....
Number 14...... Number 14...... Number 14.......
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Fuzzface on November 17, 2008, 22:45:49 pm
Quote from: Neillwith2Ls on November 17, 2008, 22:32:20 pm
Thing is, if the rest of the band veto'd it, but thought Revolution No.9 was OK to release on the White Album a year later in 1968, what does that say about Carnival Of Light?! :D


Good point ;D
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Dave Brenchley on November 18, 2008, 09:34:34 am
Quote from: Neillwith2Ls on November 17, 2008, 22:32:20 pmThing is, if the rest of the band veto'd it, but thought Revolution No.9 was OK to release on the White Album a year later in 1968, what does that say about Carnival Of Light?! :D


...yep, and then they vetoed it again for Anthology.

It's probably crap.
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Thailand Express on November 18, 2008, 15:03:36 pm
Yes, I suspect there's a good reason why it's gone unheard for 40 years.

Seeing as this thread has been reignited, the story of the White Album is on Radio 2 on Saturday night.  Should be a better listen than Carnival of Light...
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: andyhaines on November 18, 2008, 19:17:58 pm
The Guardian ain't too happy about it:

The Beatles' legacy? Macca should let it be
http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/musicblog/2008/nov/17/paul-mccartney-beatles-carnival-light
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Chris Quartly on January 27, 2009, 14:53:05 pm
Radio 2 celebrates the 40th-anniversary of The Beatles final public appearance which took place on 30th January 1969 on the roof of the bandââ,¬â,,¢s Apple Corps London headquarters in Mayfairââ,¬â,,¢s Savile Row in I Hope We Passed the Audition (Tuesday 27th, 10.30pm). The title of the programme quotes John Lennon at the event which followed tense rehearsals, with George Harrison allegedly feeling unappreciated and Yoko Ono speaking on a disgruntled Lennonââ,¬â,,¢s behalf. The band nearly broke up, but months later recorded Abbey Road, and performances from the rooftop concert ended up on the Let It Be LP. Featuring input from Yoko Ono, director Michael Lindsay-Hogg, photographer Ethan Russell, engineer Alan Parsons, technician Dave Harries, and the policeman who followed orders to shut down the session.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00h3450http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00h3450
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Slim on January 27, 2009, 17:10:10 pm
Fantastic.

Would be nice if McCartney released the Let It Be film sometime, as well.
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Thailand Express on January 28, 2009, 00:44:35 am
Damn! Forgot about it, hope it's on listen again...

Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: döm on January 29, 2009, 15:47:39 pm
Quote from: Thailand Express on January 28, 2009, 00:44:35 am
Damn! Forgot about it, hope it's on listen again...


http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio2/documentaries/passedtheaudition.shtml
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Thailand Express on January 30, 2009, 01:27:24 am
Cheers!  Listening to it now...

40 years ago today :)



Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Slim on August 16, 2012, 22:58:52 pm
And 50 years ago today, Ringo Starr became a Beatle.

The other three couldn't face telling Pete themselves, so they got Brian Epstein to break it to him that he was out of the band, on August 16th 1962.

Not very nice at the time, but even worse over the following few years as he witnessed the band he used to scrape a living in playing clubs and dance halls in the North West turn into a global popular culture phenomenon of unimaginable proportions.





Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Jonners on August 16, 2012, 23:39:30 pm
And 35 years ago today since the death of Elvis, without who there would have been no Beatles
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Presto-digitation on August 17, 2012, 22:35:25 pm
Quote from: Slim on August 16, 2012, 22:58:52 pm
And 50 years ago today, Ringo Starr became a Beatle.




Wonderful reminder!! 

James, have you read Geoff Emerick's book ("Here, There, And Everywhere: My Life Recording The Music Of The Beatles") ?  If so, what are your thoughts?  I quite like it. 
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Slim on August 19, 2012, 19:30:25 pm
Thanks! No, I've never read that one. Of those I have read, tne book I'd recommend to Beatles fans above all others though is the fantastic Revolution In The Head by Ian McDonald.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolution_in_the_Head:_The_Beatles%27_Records_and_the_Sixties

I see this thread is 13 pages long now so I've probably mentioned it already. But it's a really scholarly and insightful analysis of every single Beatles tune - it can make you hear things you've never noticed before. It also considers the Beatles' place in (or behind) the culture which is the most interesting aspect for me.
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Presto-digitation on August 19, 2012, 20:20:24 pm
I just ordered that for $14 (incl. shipping) from Amazon.  Thanks for the heads up, James.  Very much looking forward to it.
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: andyhaines on August 19, 2012, 22:14:33 pm
Quote from: Slim on August 19, 2012, 19:30:25 pm
Thanks! No, I've never read that one. Of those I have read, tne book I'd recommend to Beatles fans above all others though is the fantastic Revolution In The Head by Ian McDonald.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolution_in_the_Head:_The_Beatles%27_Records_and_the_Sixties

I see this thread is 13 pages long now so I've probably mentioned it already. But it's a really scholarly and insightful analysis of every single Beatles tune - it can make you hear things you've never noticed before. It also considers the Beatles' place in (or behind) the culture which is the most interesting aspect for me.

Good book, that.   :)
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Neillwith2Ls on August 28, 2012, 15:42:06 pm
Quote from: andyhaines on August 19, 2012, 22:14:33 pm
Good book, that.   :)


Agreed, it's a bit of a studio-geeks wank-pamphlet too :)
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Presto-digitation on August 30, 2012, 02:38:33 am
Quote from: Neillwith2Ls on August 28, 2012, 15:42:06 pm
Agreed, it's a bit of a studio-geeks wank-pamphlet too :)


Even more excited now. 
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Slim on January 30, 2019, 14:33:11 pm
Quote from: Chris Quartly on January 27, 2009, 14:53:05 pm
Radio 2 celebrates the 40th-anniversary of The Beatles final public appearance which took place on 30th January 1969 on the roof of the band's Apple Corps London headquarters in Mayfair, Savile Row in I Hope We Passed the Audition (Tuesday 27th, 10.30pm).

And ten years later .. it is as of today 50 years since the Beatles last performed live.

Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Bez on January 30, 2019, 16:06:41 pm
Quote from: Slim on January 30, 2019, 14:33:11 pm
And ten years later .. it is as of today 50 years since the Beatles last performed live.


They've chosen today to announce that Peter Jackson has been given access to 50 hours+ of unseen video material from the Let It Be sessions
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Slim on January 30, 2019, 16:58:32 pm
I wonder if he'll be cleaning it up and digitally reprocessing it, a bit like he did with the old WW1 footage?

Funny to think that the last year of The Beatles is the mid point between the end of the Great War and the present day. There could have been people my age strolling along Savile Row 50 years ago today who remembered the war quite well, albeit they wouldn't have been old enough to take part in it.
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Straight Shooter on January 30, 2019, 23:26:22 pm
Some details also  here. (http://www.superdeluxeedition.com/news/peter-jackson-to-revamp-the-beatles-let-it-be-film-from-original-footage/#more-147124)
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Slim on January 31, 2019, 00:12:35 am
That's brilliant - thanks. They are actually using similar restoration techniques then.

You've got to hand it to McCartney and his management - they've really kept interest going in The Beatles with these various projects over the last 20 years or so. The remasters, the 'Love' album, the hi-def films and so on.

Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Slim on February 14, 2019, 00:07:10 am
Here's something I didn't know: two weeks after the rooftop gig, Paul had shaved off (most of) his beard.

(http://truth.justdied.com/images/bdclip.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Slim on August 08, 2019, 10:53:17 am
And 50 years ago today, this happened:

(http://truth.justdied.com/images/AbbeyRoadFrontPage.jpg)


The crossing will be busy today I'm sure. You can see it live on a webcam here:

https://www.earthcam.com/world/england/london/abbeyroad/?cam=abbeyroad_uk
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Thenop on August 08, 2019, 12:49:39 pm
Brilliant photo this.
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Slim on August 08, 2019, 19:43:49 pm
I sometimes think about the person who parked the Volkswagen, just behind George.

(http://truth.justdied.com/images/abbeyrdcover.jpg)

Supposedly it belonged to someone who lived in the block of flats on the other side. He or she must have parked up 50 years ago, put the handbrake on, probably had no idea there was a Beatles photo shoot happening later in the near future, perhaps later the same day. And it was about to enter posterity for all eternity. It was - quite literally - parked into immortality.
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: DavidL on August 08, 2019, 20:09:01 pm
Quote from: Slim on August 08, 2019, 19:43:49 pmSupposedly it belonged to someone who lived in the block of flats on the other side. He or she must have parked up 50 years ago, put the handbrake on, probably had no idea there was a Beatles photo shoot happening later in the near future, perhaps later the same day. And it was about to enter posterity for all eternity. It was - quite literally - parked into immortality.
Serendipitous for the owner and subsequent owner, I imagine (wouldn't be allowed now...I guess)
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: pdw1 on August 08, 2019, 22:26:05 pm
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-49279293

sounds like it was busy  8)
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Slim on August 22, 2019, 17:33:20 pm
50 years ago today, the Beatles' last ever photo shoot took place at Tittenhurst Park, near Ascot.

(http://truth.justdied.com/images/tittenhurst_long.jpg)

This was the last time all four Beatles were ever in the same place at the same time.

Six years earlier to the day, the cover shot for their With The Beatles album was taken:

(http://truth.justdied.com/images/with_the_Beatles_cover.jpg)


Fascinating to think of the change in popular culture that had taken place in those few years, isn't it?
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Slim on September 07, 2019, 20:49:06 pm
I've been reading (and audiobook-listening to) the first volume of Mark Lewisohn's excellent Beatles bio. I was put off initially by the sheer quantity of material you have to read (or listen to) before you get to the part where the Beatles even exist as a group. Huge details about their family histories, childhoods, school days. Quite a lot of background on Brian Epstein and George Martin, and some of the other protagonists as well - Neil Aspinall, Alan Williams (who managed them early on).

I've spent many hours on it and am only now up to the part where Lennon, Harrison and McCartney - as the Silver Beatles (some accounts have the name as "Silver Beetles"), with Stu Sutcliffe playing bass (badly) and a drummer named Tommy Moore are hired as a backing band for Johnny Gentle for a tour of Scotland.

It's a really rewarding read and really gives you a sense of who they are or were. One big takeaway for me is what an utter prick Lennon is, at least in his younger days. He's selfish and loutish, often regarded by his friends' families, whom he insults frequently, as disruptive and unpleasant. He's jealous, bullying and possessive with his early girlfriends, sometimes even physically violent towards them. He mocks disabled people. He's an occasional petty thief and steals someone's guitar at an audition. He's callous to the point of cruelty, even to his friends.
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: zoony on September 08, 2019, 21:19:19 pm
Quote from: Slim on September 07, 2019, 20:49:06 pmOne big takeaway for me is what an utter prick Lennon is, at least in his younger days. He's selfish and loutish, often regarded by his friends' families, whom he insults frequently, as disruptive and unpleasant. He's jealous, bullying and possessive with his early girlfriends, sometimes even physically violent towards them. He mocks disabled people. He's an occasional petty thief and steals someone's guitar at an audition. He's callous to the point of cruelty, even to his friends.
Typical scouser then mate 😉.
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: pdw1 on September 11, 2019, 19:17:15 pm
 For Slim and other Beatles fanatics
https://www.theguardian.com/music/2019/sep/11/the-beatles-break-up-mark-lewisohn-abbey-road-hornsey-road

An interesting article about the final days of the band and a night at the theatre too
"Hornsey Road is at the Royal and Derngate, Northampton, on 18 September and touring until 4 December."
Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Slim on October 06, 2019, 23:45:04 pm
I've heard a couple of interviews with Mark Lewisohn about his Hornsey Road show - hoping to catch it one of the remaining dates. Thanks!