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Other Bands / Re: What's in Your CD Player etc....175
« Last post by Phil on Today at 13:41:21 »

Bit of a live album fest today. So far I've had:

Molly Hatchet - Double Trouble Live
Jimmy Barnes - Barnestorming.
Status Quo - Quo Live!

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General Chat - English / Re: Brexit watch
« Last post by rufus the dawg on Today at 13:20:45 »
Oh, I agree 'No Deal' is a misnomer. What we are really talking about is leaving the EU without a formalised agreement between the UK and the EU. The term 'No Deal' is in fact a scare tactic, as is the use of the terms 'cliff-edge' and 'crashing out'. In my opinion the EU will be eager to come to a number of agreements that are mutually beneficial to both them and the U.K very shortly after March 29th. Undoubtedly short term pain but I don't think it will last.
I use the term only because it is commonly used to indicate the alternative to a formalised deal signed before we leave.


Yes I agree with you.


Joe public who are interviewed on tv and radio often say "No deal", "just get on and leave"


They don't seem to think like you, maybe i'm wrong?



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Other Bands / Re: What's in Your CD Player etc....175
« Last post by Jonners on Today at 11:52:31 »
Madder Mortem-Marrow

Absoltely super new album by this lot
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General Chat - English / Re: Brexit watch
« Last post by DavidL on Today at 11:40:36 »
David, No deal is not an option, never will be, we will have a deal with the EU. You are then saying the UK will not have a deal with the rest of the world?


This is the absurdity with people say I want "No Deal".


For planes to fly, to sell in to the EU, to export to the USA we have to set up trading terms.
Oh, I agree 'No Deal' is a misnomer. What we are really talking about is leaving the EU without a formalised agreement between the UK and the EU. The term 'No Deal' is in fact a scare tactic, as is the use of the terms 'cliff-edge' and 'crashing out'. In my opinion the EU will be eager to come to a number of agreements that are mutually beneficial to both them and the U.K very shortly after March 29th. Undoubtedly short term pain but I don't think it will last.
I use the term only because it is commonly used to indicate the alternative to a formalised deal signed before we leave.
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General Chat - English / Re: Brexit watch
« Last post by rufus the dawg on Today at 10:50:26 »
That's the worst of all options. On top of the massive disillusionment that would engender in the political process, it would break the dam of a tidal wave of anger and hate. And it would be a massive injustice, not to mention a huge opportunity lost.



Slim, We can both agree both sides feel injust in this. Mays deal probably is a good compromise because of the margin of leaves win though.


There is disillusionment on both sides though,
Leave lied, are keeping on lying and still do not have a cohesive plan.
Remain did not and still do not put forward good meaningful reasons to stay in the EU.


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It is noticeable that in all programs in which members of the population are asked why they want to leave the EU, that answers are given that have nothing to do with the EU.
 
There is a short film on the iPlayer. One young lady says she wants to leave the EU to bring back smaller shops to their community; yet the EU has absolutely no effect on that.



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General Chat - English / Re: Brexit watch
« Last post by rufus the dawg on Today at 10:41:23 »
. But, again - that matter was settled in 2016 anyway.


Yes I know you support corruption, in a democratic country. You talk about sovereignty then you are happy for Russians and America's Facebook to influence a democratic result of the UK.
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General Chat - English / Re: Brexit watch
« Last post by rufus the dawg on Today at 10:38:41 »
The problem is that this denies the opportunity for a meaningful exit from the EU (No Deal(?)).
David, No deal is not an option, never will be, we will have a deal with the EU. You are then saying the UK will not have a deal with the rest of the world?


This is the absurdity with people say I want "No Deal".


For planes to fly, to sell in to the EU, to export to the USA we have to set up trading terms.
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General Sporting Chat / Re: The Andy Murray thread
« Last post by Bez on Today at 10:34:17 »
The BBC have been creaming their collective pants over this....only Brexit has interrupted the coverage of his final demise.
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General Chat - English / Re: Brexit watch
« Last post by Bez on Today at 10:31:26 »
Trust in our politicians would be shattered.

Post of the year....!
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General Chat - English / Re: Brexit watch
« Last post by DavidL on Today at 08:22:29 »
Corbyn went all twitchy psycho when he was delivering his no confidence speech - probably realised that statement would be the pinnacle of his Political career - as much as the Conservatives are imploding, the Labour Party, Parliament and The Country still have no real idea what Corbyns actual position is, other than to disagree with everything May says no matter what it is...... I do wish he'd grow a pair remove the splinters from his arse and state his clear position or he may as well move aside too.
Maybe that's what we need - 2 new Leaders of our main Party's who can strike up a meaningful position to go back to Europe with - we now need more than ever to put on a unified front when going back to the EU - state our clear position as a take it or leave it deal and be done. No more stringing it out just get on with it for the sake of the Country, this no mans land is doing more damage to the economy and industry than any sort of deal or no deal.
I thought he was going to explode! He's between a rock and a hard place, as you say, nearly in as much trouble as the PM. He despises the EU and knows that membership puts the brake on his Marxist utopia but he also knows that millions of disillusioned working class Labour voters want out even though the majority of party members want to remain. I think his only escape is a Loser's Vote but that comes with many risks. The only way a Loser's Vote would be in any way conclusive would be to deny a proper choice with two options on the paper: Remain or TM's deal. The problem is that this denies the opportunity for a meaningful exit from the EU (No Deal(?)). Having this on the paper as a third choice would be seen as an attempt to split the Leave vote to engineer a Remain in the EU result. Trust in our politicians would be shattered.
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