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General Chat - English / Re: Annoyance of the Day - 69
« Last post by Matt2112 on Today at 15:30:12 »
If I may say (which, yes I can ;) ) you are both running into the weeds here, it seems to me.

Have you seen the video?  Whatever the comic merit or demerits of it, the creator's intent is made explicitly clear; if we're in the territory of satirising hate crimes itself being a hate crime, then we're in very bizarre and dangerous territory indeed.  I don't think it behoves us to shrug our shoulders as it this could be the thin end of a very insidious wedge.

I very much hope this conviction is overturned.
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General Chat - English / Re: Annoyance of the Day - 69
« Last post by döm on Today at 15:03:53 »

Do you not think a very dangerous precedent is (at least potentially) set by this judgement?  Do you not think it demonstrates the threshold of what constitutes a hate crime is illiberally low?  :-\


I certainly wouldn't like comedy to be used as a get out of jail free card.  Comedians seem to be suggesting that they should be exempted from hate crime, but that doesn't wash with me.  "Well it was only a joke" is not a valid defence.  What's to stop people who's intention is to spread racism etc from pretending to be comedians to make sure they wouldn't get convicted?


Having said that I don't know much about the case in question so not sure whether he crossed the line and if so by how much
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General Chat - English / Re: Annoyance of the Day - 69
« Last post by Bez on Today at 14:46:55 »

Do you not think a very dangerous precedent is (at least potentially) set by this judgement?  Do you not think it demonstrates the threshold of what constitutes a hate crime is illiberally low?  :-\

Goes with the terretory....political correctness is rife and the establishment need to be seen to be taking a serious stand. Its a bit like wearing a bike helmet, you know that to do so may save your life in case on an accident, but some people still rail against being forced to do so...

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General Chat - English / Re: Annoyance of the Day - 69
« Last post by Matt2112 on Today at 14:30:38 »
Methinks that the result is about right and he should start watching out for Mossad agents in bookstores...


Do you not think a very dangerous precedent is (at least potentially) set by this judgement?  Do you not think it demonstrates the threshold of what constitutes a hate crime is illiberally low?  :-\ [size=78%] [/size]
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Rush News & Chat / Re: 30 years ago tonight...
« Last post by döm on Today at 14:02:29 »
If someone had told me back then that 30 years hence I would be communicating to people in attendance at that gig via a mobile device, I would have thought they were completely mad!
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DVD/Movie/TV / Re: Lost In Space (NEW) - Netflix
« Last post by GlezgaRed on Today at 13:55:03 »
Yep, great ending to an excellent opening season !!

Has the potential to be a classic sci-fi TV show.
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Rush News & Chat / Re: 30 years ago tonight...
« Last post by captainkurtz on Today at 13:54:16 »
I remember this gig , I have a feeling we were front row on lifeson`s side , did Primus support ?

or was that Sheffield front row ... ah whatever
That was 1992 and 2011, lad.  :)
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Other Bands / Re: What's in Your CD Player etc....175
« Last post by karl on Today at 13:12:52 »
Taj Mahal - Taj Mahal
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Rush News & Chat / Re: 30 years ago tonight...
« Last post by Pricey on Today at 12:34:19 »
I remember this gig , I have a feeling we were front row on lifeson`s side , did Primus support ?

or was that Sheffield front row ... ah whatever
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General Chat - English / Re: Annoyance of the Day - 69
« Last post by Bez on Today at 12:20:33 »
Youtube prankster Count Dankula (Mark Meechan) found guilty of a "hate crime", narrowly avoiding a custodial sentence and fined £800.00 - for a clearly satirical Youtube video (the now infamous pug doing a Nazi salute while "Gas the Jews" is said in the background).

So here we have a guy convicted of something he is clearly ridiculing because he knows it's quite obviously and ludicrously wrong.

Have to take a lot of satisfaction though from how he utterly destroyed slimy Sky news reporter James Matthews when he was confronted by him afterward.

And his Twitter profile: "I'm not a Nazi, but my dog is".

But what a travesty this case is; he is appealing his conviction, and good luck to him.


Mmmmm, mixed feelings here for me....on one hand he desrves everything he gets (as do all "Youtube Pranksters"), on the other Matt is right that this was obviously a (very poor) joke....

Methinks that the result is about right and he should start watching out for Mossad agents in bookstores...
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